Operation Gladio - Vietnam Phoenix Program

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0:00 Okay, everyone, we're going to get started here. I think we've made quite the splash, guys. Holy crap. Please repost this space out so we can get more people in here. I wanted to let everybody know that...

0:32 I have four of Doug Valentine's books that I've been using as references. The one I do not have is the Phoenix program. And I had been using the one on archive.org when we started this section on Vietnam, just to check.

1:02 do some cross-referencing, that type of thing. Imagine my surprise when I logged on about 10 minutes ago to access the book, and it says, this item is no longer available. No way. Yes way. They have deleted it off of archive.org. Overnight. I told you, doesn't it?

1:33 Told you when they were getting hacked that they were messing with stuff. Yeah. So, I just think that's absolutely crazy. Like, way beyond crazy, actually. But what I want to do, I'm going to have to have that book overnighted to me.

2:10 We are not moving on until we finish Vietnam. And I need his material because of all of the people, because he's made so many trips over there. He is, as crazy as it sounds and as far out in the totalitarian government camp that this guy's in, he just does the best work.

2:40 I'm sorry, I'm still just dumbfounded that we really have to be doing something good to come upon these things and have the reaction that we're having in the internet space of the attacks on the program.

3:13 And that type of thing. So I definitely have to say that we're doing a good job. So hold on just a second. Let me go back to. All right. So we're going to regroup here. I do have some other material that I have as far as my notes go. So we're just going to move on.

3:46 I will get that book to myself tomorrow. So as I get started, please repost the space out. Let everybody know that we're live and we're going to go ahead and move on. Talking about the Phoenix program, whether they like it or not. So where we left off yesterday, we were in the 1954 time frame and we were talking about the Michigan State University.

4:15 basically coming over and offering for a lot of money, quote unquote, technical assistance program. And the four areas that they were offering this technical assistance program was in public information, public administration, finance, and economics. And then the last one was police and security.

4:43 So the contract was approved in 1955, and that was right after the National Security Council had endorsed Dem as the president. And the Michigan State University program ran for at least seven years that we can find documentation for. And they spent $15 million.

5:13 of taxpayer money, building up a police state dictatorship with our tax dollars. And basically, in exchange for this contract, Michigan State University group became a vehicle for the CIA to establish, like I said, a police state.

5:45 There was a group called BINH, B-I-N-H-X-U-Y-E-N. They were basically mafia in Saigon police force. And they kind of like the cops within cops that we've talked about occasionally that received a special.

6:16 like Schools of America or the Fort Benning Training. That's what these guys were, Ben Ewan. And they recruited from existing police forces and basically inducted them into what would be best labeled in Gladio terms as a secret service. That's the term that has been used across many countries and not like our secret service.

6:45 like covert secret service, but it looks the same as like a police force or a National Guard or something like that to the outside people. So it's almost like a secret society within the police forces. So, and this is what General Lansdell had been working on back in 1954.

7:13 And he called it his military coup insurance. And there was, let's see, early attempts at bureaucratic streamlining was undermined by Dem. And because he really didn't want it to be organized, he preferred the chaos because he used the chaos as a cloaking device for his.

7:45 manipulation of the local population. And because it managed all of the central records depository, this entity that Michigan State University was helping, it became referred to as the Vietnam Bureau of Information, the VBI. It became

8:15 the most powerful security force and received basically the lion's share of the American quote-unquote technical aid because it was going to be the thing they used to implement the Phoenix program. So it would be like the databases that were set up after 9-11. That's the equivalent of it.

8:45 And so the VBI got riot guns, bulletproof vests, gas masks, lie detectors, a high command school like the schools of America, a modern crime lab, modern interrogation centers, because you've got to have a place to take your kidnapped people to interrogate them, which is basically like what we refer to in modern times as black sites.

9:15 And also, VBI officers were trained by CIA and FBI. And where did they do that training? Oh, you know, in the United States at the Georgetown University. And that was for like the higher ups. So the VBI is basically one of the major foundations.

9:43 on which the Phoenix program was created. And so you have the majority of Michigan State's police advisors that were deployed to Vietnam were either former or retired state troopers, large city detectives.

10:11 They advised the BBI and trained Dems Secret Service along with the CIA officers on or agents. And they they all were hired under the label of a professor. So you have an entire school population of professors deployed to.

10:43 a war zone, and when in fact they were really not professors at all, and a large number of them were actually CIA agents. And so the Michigan State University group watched while truckloads of political prisoners, mostly old men and women and children, arrested the night before, were handcuffed and carted off on a daily basis to Kansang.

11:16 America's first look to many of the people in Saigon. And for four years, they dared not denounce the mass arrest or the fact that there was a room, and this came out in some leaked documents, there was a room in the Saigon Zoo that was used as a morgue.

11:47 and also a torture chamber, and that room was referred to as P-40. So, also, in a book called War Comes to Long Ann, and you spell that L-O-N-G in a separate word, A-N, by a guy by the name of Jeffrey Race, quoted one of the provincial chiefs as saying, quote, I hardly ever dared to look around the office with...

12:20 All the Can Lao people there watching me. And in those days, it was just impossible to resign. Many others had tried. They were just let off in the middle of the night by Dems men dressed as Viet Cong. They were taken to P-40 or the prison and disappeared. So you couldn't resign because they'd come pick you up. And they were.

12:49 Kidnapping these people and disappearing them, dressed up as the Viet Cong and accusing North Vietnam as doing it. And this is exactly the tenets of Operation Gladio in full view of everything. So there were there's another.

13:23 entity that the CIA produced an annual report, which was basically labeled as the Viet Cong Order of Battle. And it was compiled for the most part from notes taken by secret agents that had been infiltrated into the Viet Cong. And they assembled it by hand at the Central Records Depository.

13:53 It basically became a CIA biography of the VCI and the basis for the anti quote unquote infrastructure operation, which was basically the murdering of all the educated people and all that other stuff. So, again, they're using the Viet Cong.

14:19 as a bludgeon for stuff that they're doing themselves. So in 1959, Dem held another sham election. And this is a quote from one of the Vietnamese officials. In 1959, the...

14:46 Gosh, that sounds so familiar.

15:09 beat people and used water treatment, literally waterboarding because the CIA had taught them how to do that. But there was nothing anyone could do. Everyone was terrified, unquote. Another official went on the record saying, quote, during the dim period, the people here saw the government was no good at all. That is why 80% of them followed the Viet Cong. I was the village chief then, but I had to do.

15:36 what the government told me to. If not, the secret police, the VBI, would come pick me up and torture me to death. Thus, I was the only one who rigged the election here, unquote. It was apparent that Dinh's security forces terrorized all of the South Vietnamese, even more than the VCI. In fact, one of the authors noted that prior to 1959,

16:04 the BCI carried out an official policy of nonviolence. Quote, by adopting the almost entirely defensive role during that period and by allowing the government to be the first to employ violence, the party, at great cost, allowed the government to pursue the conflict in increasingly violent terms through its relentless reprisal against any opposition, its use of torture,

16:31 and particularly after May 1959, through psychological operations, unquote. In the Phoenix program, there was a book that was written called Phoenix, A Study of Wartime Intelligence Management by CIA officer Ralph Johnson. He calls a thing called the 10-59 law,

17:04 quote, the GBN's most serious mistake, unquote. Under its provision, anyone convicted of acts of sabotage or infringement on national security could be sentenced to death or life imprisonment with no appeal. Making matters worse was the fact that the primary GBN targets were former Viet Minh guerrillas, many of whom were nationalist and not communist at all.

17:34 regardless of whether or not they were known to have participated in any subversive activities at all. The 1059 law resulted in the jailing of 50,000 political prisoners by the end of the year. But rather than suppress the insurgency, Vietnamese from all walks of life began joining in.

18:01 Because that, for them, was the last straw. Viet Minh cadres moved into villages from secluded base camps in central highlands. And after four years of Dems-style, quote-unquote, democracy, the rural population had basically embraced insurgency warfare against...

18:32 the Western-installed government. The nonviolence policy practiced by the Viet Cong changed abruptly in 1959 when, in response to the 1059 Law and CIA intrusions into the North, the Lao Dong Central Committee organized the 559 Transportation and Support Group, known as DON 559. This combat engineer corps carved out

19:01 the Ho Chi Minh Trail through the rugged mountains and fever-ridden jungles of South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Dong 559 paved the way for the Viet Minh veterans who had gone north in 1954 and returned in 1959 to organize self-defense groups and political cells in villages. By the end of the 1959, Dong 559 had infiltrated 45...

19:31 groups in South Vietnam. This basically, in response to that, U.S. Special Forces commandos were trained in, get ready for it, behind the lines anti-guerrilla and intelligence gathering operations. So basically what we have here in our terminology,

20:03 is the North has countered the South's stay-behind units that they planted all over the North with their own stay-behind units in the South by infiltrating all of these villages. And then you have the U.S. Army Special Forces commandos going quote-unquote behind the lines in an anti-guerrilla fashion to counteract.

20:31 what they provoked themselves by installing them. So working in 12 member A teams under the cover of civic action, the Green Berets organized paramilitary units in remote rural regions and SWAT teams consisting of security forces in the city. And in return, they were allowed to occupy strategic locations influencing political events in Vietnam.

21:01 Developed as a way of fighting cost-effective counterinsurgencies, the rough-and-tumble Green Berets were basically acting in this case as an extension of the CIA, which made them basically a threat to the main body of the army. And there has always been some tension. Just for a side note for a second, in the military,

21:32 The the the services, the Air Force, the Navy, the Marines and the Army, their job, their four star who's in charge, the chief of staff of the Army, Air Force, blah, blah, blah. Their job is to train and equip the people in their service for use to a COCOM, which is the combatant commander. So you have, you know, now it's over 10 combatant commanders all around the world.

22:02 The four-star sitting in the Pentagon's job is to provide them trained resources to go to war. And not only do they buy for money amongst themselves, you had this newcomer called Special Operations Command, which was a four-star general sitting on MacDill Air Force Base. And he was given a separate pot of money to take pieces of each of those service manpower and equipment providers.

22:32 and specialized some of their hardware to use in special operations missions. So the easiest one to illustrate is the Air Force. They created a command, a training command called Air Force Special Operations. That's AVSOC, and it's at Hurlburt Field up in the panhandle of Florida.

22:53 They have not only people, but they have equipment. They have helicopters that are gunship for special operations missions. They have specialized C-130s that actually do refueling of helicopters in the middle of a battle. They have gunship with special equipment for special operator C-130s. And everything other, so you get a C-130 off the production line. It comes to...

23:21 um avsoc and then avsoc puts on it all of the special operations gear and that's all paid for the specialty equipment by socom the special operations combatant commander and so when socom says i need t10 c130s to do my missions around the world that i've been tasked to do

23:45 The Air Force has to go get those 130s. Then SOCOM gives them the money to trick them out as special operations. And the same thing with the people. If you need special gear to do special operation missions, which of course you do, SOCOM pays for that out of a separate pot of money. So what happened in many cases, like in the Marines, the Marine Corps commander or commandant, when I was still on active duty and there became...

24:14 After 9-11, this pissing contest between the services and SOCOM, the Marine Commandant bowed out his chest and said, I don't have any special operations Marines. Every one of my Marines is trained to the same standard. If you're going to give me shit, you're going to give it to me for everybody. I don't have special Marines. I have Marines.

24:39 And he was really the only one that kind of stuck to his guns as far as the kind of tension that exists between this. And so there has always been this kind of rivalry when it comes to money on who's paying for what and what they're getting for their money. So that's just an aside. So that kind of obviously is what he's talking here.

25:05 um about when you have a subset of the army whether it's delta force or the green berets if they have to train to an extra higher standard than what the army has them that it is basically billed to socom okay and because let me just add this because it is the cia that generally um directs the activities of these guys

25:35 Not all the time. So when we went to war in Afghanistan, the four-star General Franks had missions in which special operations commands, SOC CENT, which is their subcommand for special operations, did real military missions. But most of the time when you're in theater, the intel and the missions for special operators comes from the CIA. And that...

26:04 became very problematic to a COCOM who's responsible for the mission in the theater when the CIA keeps pulling off your guys to go on side missions for the CIA. There is a built-in problem with that. So Special Forces troopers would go on temporary duty and could go places where the Geneva Accords restricted.

26:33 regular soldiers from going. And therein lies the problem, because they're really acting under the hat of the CIA. And the example that's given was in Laos, there was a nickname called Sneaky Pete's that wore civilian clothes and worked in groups of two or three people that worked with the Lao deserters.

27:03 and turned them into double agents so that they could return to their former units with electronic tracking devices that enabled the CIA to launch air attacks against them. Other double agents returned to their units to lead them into ambushes. And as General Lansdell explained, once inside the enemy ranks, they could not only collect information,

27:33 for passing secrets to the government, but also could work to induce the rank and file to surrender. Volunteers for this quote-unquote risky business were trained one-on-one so that anybody else didn't know who the other ones are. By the late 1950s, increasing numbers of American special forces were in South Vietnam practicing the terrifying black art of psychological operations.

28:02 Arriving in Saigon in the spring of 1959 as the CIA's deputy chief of station was William Colby. And obviously we know William Colby from his role in setting up Operation Gladio in Europe and in the Scandinavian countries when he was an OSS officer. He also had graduated from Princeton. He was a lawyer. He was a Catholic. So he, because of the whole...

28:31 Catholic Church aspect of Vietnam, the mass migration down, the use of the Catholic Church as a front in some of the CIA operations, Colby seemed to be the perfect person to run much of the paramilitary operations that basically look like Operation Gladio against the North.

28:59 He also managed the political operations for deep cover case officers like the pilots for Air America. And one of the executives during this time for Air America was a guy by the name of Clyde Bauer. He brought into South Vietnam a...

29:27 entity called the Foreign Relations Council. He set up a chamber of commerce and, you're not going to believe this, in the middle of a war zone, he set up the Lions Club. And basically, all of those things were used as fronts to smuggle in even more covert operators. So, Bauer...

29:57 is on record as saying he did that to set up a strong civil base, maybe a base of operations. CIA officers under Colby's directions fundled money to all of the political parties that were on record in the South, basically in the typical feather your bed thing like they did between Batista and Castro in Cuba. They keep all of their...

30:27 options open during destabilization efforts like this because you never know when you're going to have to drop one guy and assassinate him and go with another. So this is a normal development. Under Colby's direction, the CIA increased its advice and assistance to the GVN security forces, while at the same time, the Michigan State University group ceased being a CIA cover.

30:55 The Michigan State University group advisors were all over South Vietnam conducting studies and reporting on the village dynamics going on at the time. They had found themselves stumbling over secret policemen that were posing as village chiefs and CIA officers masquerading as anthropologists.

31:22 And even though these poise helped security forces catch people that were basically part of the Viet Cong, they also put the Michigan State University advisors in as targets for the Viet Cong, which they probably should have been. So it was that.

31:49 One of the guys, which was the assistant Michigan State University project chief, Robert Scigliano, S-C-I-G-L-I-A-N-O. While his boss was on vacation in Vietnam, he kicked the VBI advisory unit out.

32:21 of the Michigan State University groups cover. The State Department quickly took the CIA officers in and placed them under what? Oh, the precursor to the USAID, which at the time was called the Agency for International Development and that really catchy word, Public Safety Division.

32:49 The Public Safety Division is the same entity that we found in Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil. They do all of their mass murder under the header of public safety. It was created by the CIA officer Byron Engel, E-N-G-E-L, in 1954.

33:16 and was set up to provide technical assistance and training to the police and security officials in over 52 countries. And every one of those countries we've talked about because every one of those countries was couped by Operation Gladio Forces. In Saigon in 1959, AID, again, the precursor to USAID, was managed by a former Los Angeles policeman, Frank.

33:46 Walton. And its field offices were directed by CIA-managed Combined Studies Group. That was the name of the entity, another false front that was created by the CIA to sound nebulous. And it funded cadres and hired advisors for the BBI, the Civil Guard, and local police. So through the AID Public Safety Office,

34:16 There were technical assistance to police and security that grew by leaps and bounds in order to orchestrate a mass control of the population. They also introduced telecommunication centers, national police training centers, a rehabilitation system for quote-unquote defecting communists, which led their voluntary...

34:44 voluntary service in CIA security programs. And there was also FBI on the ground there, and they began a national identification registration program, you know, mass surveillance. They issued ID cards, those things that evidently minorities can't get in America, to all of the Vietnamese citizens over the age of 14 as a way of controlling

35:12 where they went, what they did. Several other major changes occurred during this time. And on the assumption that someday the communists would be defeated, the Michigan State University in 1957 had reduced the Civil Guard in strength and converted it over to a national police. They love that national police. Because remember, Schwarzkopf's dad set up the SAVAK.

35:43 S-A-B-A-K in Iran as their national police force. This is one of the staples that they do. So they're under the control of the CIA. And it's nothing like having the national police force in different countries under your control. So the establishment of it served as a security force for district and province chiefs.

36:10 That obviously could be controlled by the CIA. It also guarded bridges, major roads, and power stations. CIA advisors assigned to the constable's office developed clandestine cells within each of these units. So they're embedding stay-behind capability through these utility-looking entities. Operating out of police barracks at night in civilian clothes.

36:40 These ragtag squads were targeted against the VCI using intelligence provided by their VBI. However, in 1960, at the end of the year, the U.S. Military Advisory Group seized control of the constable groups and began organizing them into company and battalion.

37:08 armed with automatic rifles and machine guns. That's us. We had the CIA set up stay-behind units, and then the military comes in and gives them their weapon caches. That's what we're describing here in our terminology. The constable was renamed Regional Forces, and they were placed under the Ministry of Defense.

37:35 Everything that Michigan State University did and training and all that stuff was initially done under the plausible deniability that they're training civilians to maintain peace and order. And then they come in and scarf it all up and make them all military units with weaponry. So the remaining 18,000 policemen that they had accrued by this time served to enforce curfews, maintain law and order.

38:06 garrisoned communities, forcefully relocated people, who, by the way, a large portion of them, over a million, had already been forcibly relocated from the North. And it was all developed by the Michigan State University group in 1959 in response to Lansdell's civic action program. So with the demise of the civic action,

38:33 and basically transitioning them to a full-fledged military, pacification efforts were by default dumped on the Vietnamese army, whose heavy-handed tactics further alienated. So it's not as if they hadn't pissed everybody else, the civilians, off. They're doubly going to piss them off now because they're going to be basically living in a martial law state.

38:58 In an attempt to stop the bleeding, the civic action cadre were redirected towards organizing quote-unquote community development programs in which, remember those class systems we talked about yesterday, class A and B? Offenders were forced to build roads, villages, basically construction.

39:25 constructing entire new cities under a slave labor concept. So when construction had been completed, the South Vietnamese army units leveled the surrounding villages and resettled the inhabitants into these, what they called agro villas. Hold on just a second. Okay. So.

40:06 They manned outposts along the roads and facilitated, not facilitated, that's the wrong word. They controlled all of the movements of everybody in the entire southern part of the country. Everything was under a micromanaged martial law type environment. So the idea behind these aggregate...

40:35 agro-villas was to control the rural population by physically moving the sympathetic people away from the guerrilla forces. By making relocated persons build these agro-villas, i.e. tent cities protected by moats, mud walls, and bamboo stakes, internal security, it was imagined, could be established, laws enforced, potential revolutionaries

41:04 identified. And psychologically, they would be in a better control of the surrounding population. So again, let me rephrase that. You're talking about people that you forced migrated out of the North into the South. In addition, you're talking to people that had lived for hundreds of years in the South in the same village.

41:33 They completely leveled their village. They destroyed it after they enslaved them and made them build these agro villas. And in doing so, basically surrounded them. They're imprisoning the population is what they're doing. They're building a moat around them so that they can control the movement of these people so they can't get out.

42:01 And then they go back and destroy the entire village that they grew up in. This is absolute craziness. So the secondary nation building goal of the agro nation building, my ass, agroville villa program was physically to construct a social and economic infrastructure connected to the GVN, which is the Southern government and the political party.

42:33 In reality, though, by uprooting the people from their ancestral homes, the program generated even more Viet Minh nationalism and sympathizers. So this is one mistake after another mistake after another mistake that psychologically is emboldening the resistance and into this buzzsaw.

42:58 Because this is building up to what's going to be the full-fledged deployment of hundreds of thousands of Americans into this buzzsaw. This is like taking a battering ram to a hornet's nest and beating the hell out of the hornet's nest and then throwing a whole bunch of 18-year-olds into the hornet's nest. Okay, that's what I'm describing. Moreover, the massive infusion of American aid amounted to a boondoggle for the corrupt.

43:29 Government officials piled on top of a land reform program that stole from the poor and gave to the rich, which again, they do this every time. Because when you do this, reappropriating the money into an elite bourgeois group, you buy their allegiance to your evil plot. But at the same time, you are pissing off.

43:54 An entire army of people that you stole their shit from. So in response, when William Colby became the station chief in 1960, there was he accelerated the pace at which CIA operated into the northern area. So they've just totally effed up the south. So now we're going to turn our forces on the north, which is exactly what we did in Korea, by the way.

44:26 He and another CIA officer that was disguised as a special forces colonel by the name of Gilbert Lawton, L-A-W-T-O-N, launched a program called Civilian Irregular Defense Group. This program was a means of preventing the North and the roving Viet Cong guerrilla units from moving through.

44:56 drawing sustenance from or maintaining agents in these GBN monitored villages. So this is the program to keep the North out of all of these newly created villages. And basically, this looks an awful lot like if you study the French version of the war after World War II.

45:26 Until they were thrown out of the country. Looks a lot like what they did. And totally screwed it up. Father Hoa. Created a thing called sea swallows. Like the bird. And it basically dovetailed into the civilian irregular defense group. He. This father Hoa.

45:55 was imprisoned in the 1940s by Ho Chi Minh because he was conspiring with the KMT army of Chiang Kai-shek against Northern Vietnamese people. And he is a Catholic priest. His real name is Nguyen Loc Hoa.

46:25 Um, and he was not only just in Vietnam, but he also did a whole bunch of stuff in Laos. Um, and shortly after Chiang Kai-shek had fled to Thailand with his nationalist army, um, the, uh, this Catholic priest went to Laos to get out of the North because Ho Chi Minh was hunting him down to kill him.

46:51 And then, of course, you know, that would be an international scandal, too, because we were attacking the quote unquote Christians, even though this guy had basically converted himself into a military asset. Eight years later, after enduring what what they refer to in the local news, I read a couple of articles saying that he was religiously persecuted. No, he wasn't.

47:20 He was being held accountable by the local Buddhist and people who he was trying to help the CIA and Chiang Kai-shek get assassinated. They were trying to hold him accountable. He wasn't being persecuted. So it says that Father Hoa had persuaded a guy by the name of Bernard Yo, Y-O-H, a KMT intel officer.

47:50 that had been embedded in the CIA to bring his church group to South Vietnam. And the deal was that Father Hoa was appointed chief of a district where 90% of the people were Viet Cong supporters, Viet Minh. So now keep in mind, they already brought most of the Catholics down.

48:18 and settled them in the South. And so they are assigning a religious Catholic priest to be in charge, basically spy, on a village that are all sympathetic to the Nationalists trying to kick these bastards out. He was given quantities of military aid, advice from a series of CIA officers disguised as Special Forces colonels, and in exchange, Father Hoa had...

48:47 merely to fight against the Viet Cong as a religious priest. In an article in the Saturday Evening Post in February 17th, 1962, it says, quote, Father Hoa personally led his pitiful small force into the swamps nightly to strike at the enemy on his own ground. So again, you have a Catholic priest engaged in warfare.

49:19 So stuck in the middle of the stronghold, this village resembled more of a military outpost than an actual city or town. It had obstacle courses for people to work out on, and Father Hoa affectionately nicknamed it Our Own Little Fort Bragg. The district chief

49:44 Father Hoa used CIA funds to run an intel network consisting of volunteers, of sympathetic farmers, basically paid agents, along with a slew of full-time actual paid agents. On the basis of this intel, Father Hoa mounted raids against quote-unquote Viet Cong cadres. In 1962, he had captured 148 prisoners.

50:14 whom he used as slave laborers for himself to harvest food that they then sold. In the evenings, sea swallow cadre indoctrinated their captives with religious and political propaganda, prompting the weaklings to defect and join the ranks of Father Hoa's Popular Force Battalion.

50:40 500 Vietnamese dressed in ill-fitting U.S. Army khaki uniforms was a result. Because it was composed of Vietnamese, the Popular Force Battalion was not trustworthy. However, it did not include the Sea Swallows' own cadre. Described by another author as Boy Scouts, to include the three-finger salute,

51:10 This group of black-clad commandos, armed with everything that the CIA's money could buy, was clustered around the priest like his own personal bodyguard. Unlike their Vietnamese neighbors, Father Coa's Catholic zealots held what the author Bernard Yeo calls an ideology that there could be no compromising with communism.

51:40 And of course, labeling people a communist was the first step in assassinating them. The image of the defiant band of foreigners transplanted by the CIA to Vietnam to suit its purposes and surround captives, defectors, and enemy symbolized the perfect state of a counterinsurgency in the 1960s.

52:05 Things were not going well in other areas. The military security service was infiltrated with northern agents, and in June of 1959, the VBI arrested the personal bodyguard of one of the chiefs of staff who had been spying on him. January 1960, now keep in mind, 1960 was an election year.

52:30 So we're going into the Nixon and Eisenhower vice presidents and we're going into the election year where Nixon was running against JFK. Two officers in the operation division of the Vietnamese joint staff were arrested as being Viet Minh agents. Even the Can Lao was penetrated by these same agents. The situation.

52:59 came to a head in November, which would have been the election, in 1960 when a group of disgruntled Des Viet paratroopers led a coup against Dem. Although it failed, the coup attempt grew attention to Dem's lack of popular support. A situation made worse when his brother knew sick the secret police on the Des Viets and their Buddhist allies.

53:26 This purge sent the Buddhists underground and into alliance with Ho Chi Minh and what was called the Buddhist crisis ensued, resulting, basically causing the demise of the regime of Dem. Sensing that Dem was on the ropes and bolstered by the Buddhists having joined their cause, Ho Chi Minh, on December 20th,

53:57 1960 announced the formation of the National Front for Liberation of South Vietnam and called for the expulsion of all Americans. Ho Chi Minh appointed Lu Duan, D-U-A-N, Secretary General of the South Branch of the Party, and one year later, the People's Revolutionary Party was activated in the South. The insurgency had officially begun.

54:28 We can stop there for the day because that's going to get us into kind of the heat of the battle. But you can see the link that we went to in effing up everything that became the precursor to us officially entering Vietnam militarily.

54:54 Because all of what I just have described to you over the last two days is all basically not official at all. The CIA was there under a quote unquote advisory. Most of the military there under the military advisory were actually CIA officers posed as president. You've got a hot mic. I tried to.

55:25 There you go. Thank you. And so you have basically two elements of CIA, one posing as military and one's actually CIA. And they went around in the latter part, well, the early and latter part of the 50s, setting up a crisis of screwing everything up that they did.

55:51 pissing off the locals more and more and more so now by the time we get to 1960 we've got a hot mess and um so that's kind of where we're at and we can pick up tomorrow um from that point on so if you guys want a mic um put your uh request in and um we'll bring you up

56:22 And I can already tell we're going to have mic problems because it's doing, and I was in a space last night that it was doing it as well. It turns people's mics on randomly and it doesn't allow people to turn them off. So you have to mute the space and then it's just, it's a mess. So anyway, we'll do the best we can. Absolutely. And we were, it was glitzing earlier today. Yay. SR71.

56:59 Did you have something SR-71? Well, if he does, we can't hear him. Let me take him down and bring him back up. Okay. Can you try talking? Yeah. Try muting. Okay, I'm just taking this a wild stance here. Try muting your mic and then talking. Because I think it's actually functioning backwards, or it was at least for Cousin S. Did she drop out? I don't see her in here at all. I think she was trying to redo.

58:10 Like drop out and come back in. All right. Miles, you try. Can you hear me? Yes. Holy crap. Oh, good. Yeah, I didn't really have a question. I just wanted to commend you on what you did yesterday. I was in that room. I wasn't going to take a mic in that room. Oh. So let me explain to everybody that wasn't there.

58:39 I made the mistake around eight o'clock yesterday because when I go live with Alpha, he's on the West Coast. And so we don't start till 930. I'm on the East Coast and I'm a five o'clock riser normally. And so I got up at five o'clock. So by eight o'clock, you know, I'm I'm looking at closing stuff up. And so I drank a cup of coffee. That was a critical mistake, although it probably.

59:07 made the live podcast with Alpha last night much better. When we got done, because we covered some really incredible stuff, I was wide awake, like wired wide awake. And so he had sent me a link to that space and someone else had as well. So I just tapped into it. I'd never been in his space before.

59:37 And so he had sent me a link to that space. And someone else had as well. So I tapped into it. I'd never been in his space before. And so he had sent me a link to that space. What was that? Holy crap. I have no idea. Did you hear it? That was weird. No.

1:00:07 But it was like you were on a loop. Yeah. All right. So go ahead, Miles. I just wanted to explain to everybody what you were talking about. Did you have any observations from that? Can you hear me now? I can hear you now, SR-71. Yes, we can. Well, it's funny. It's showing my mic muted, but actually you're hearing my voice. Yeah, that's what Cousin It was saying, that everything's operating backwards.

1:00:42 I don't quite get it. Plus the fact I'm having thunderstorms over here, but it just amazes me what's going on here lately and how things are going with X. Anyway, it just means we're getting the word out and you're doing what we need to do. And when they turn around and take a book away from you, Colonel, that makes me absolutely furious.

1:01:13 I was kind of shocked, actually. But whatever. We're going to pile through here. It's not like I don't have five on the subject. So we will not be at a loss of material. So anyway, go ahead, Miles. Yeah, for the people that were in that space last night, it was a good representation of where we're at as far as the knowledge of history.

1:01:47 And, and I just, like I said before, I want to commend you for being a good debater and to, you know, your composure was good because these people really don't know anything and they have to be, we have to be patient with them because it's easy for us to go, how, how come you don't know this?

1:02:15 So but they don't. And that's what that's why I wanted to take a mic and just thank you for doing what you did last night. And, you know, you can drink decaf. What good is that? That's like shooting blanks. Who does that? Colonel, can I can I say one thing real quick? Because I'm a coffee expert. Do you know what caffeine is?

1:02:47 Yes, I do. I was joking. So, yeah, it does trick the brain. It's a fake adrenaline molecule. Yeah. So, yeah, that's all. Thanks. Okay. So, testing. Yeah, we can hear you. No way. It is backwards. What the hell? I'm sorry. Crazy. So, as long as we're here, Miles, my bloodstream runs on caffeine and nicotine. Don't you go there.

1:03:21 Well, excuse me. I believe the mics are backwards. That's right. And I've got three days worth of shit to say. So everybody just sit back. No, I have no idea. What's going on? Does anybody know? No. It's exactly backwards. Yeah. All right. So I guess I'll mute myself. Well, I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Okay. Just leave it alone. Bye.

1:03:53 Yeah, I won't. No touchy. So anyway, I don't think anybody has any questions about what we covered today. And Stellar, she's going to have to catch up because she's not here. So I do want to mention what Miles was talking about. There was a conversation in that space about, well, one of the guys, I don't know whether he's pretending.

1:04:24 to be stupid or he asked questions like he genuinely wants to know an answer. And when you tell him an answer, he argues with you, which tells you he didn't want to know. He didn't really actually have a question. And I'm sure you guys have heard those kind of people in spaces before. And so when he asked a question of me and I provided him an answer,

1:04:54 He starts to try to debate me using sources from things like the Cato Institute and Forbes magazine. And when I explained to him, those are basically CIA front companies. And that as far as I'm concerned, anything you say after citing a front company for the CIA, I basically hear blah, blah, blah. And he's like, basically, you know, asking me, well.

1:05:21 under what authority do you have of saying that they're not any good? And I told him, I said, I've been doing this for almost, well, well over a year, about 12 hours a day. And all I do is study the CIA, where their funding goes and what they're doing. So there's probably nobody out there that's more of an expert on this than I am. And yeah, so if that's all you got.

1:05:48 So then he got off into the one, there's another guy on there that was saying, you know, we don't need a border wall. All we need is satellites. And my point to him was, do you have guns on satellites that I don't know about? You actually have to have a whole bunch of different things in tiered layers in order to be able to secure a border. And I told him about Hungary has a wall that works.

1:06:18 Israel has a wall that works. And he was like, well, you can't put guns on a wall. And I said, I'm sorry. You obviously haven't seen Israel's wall. They have turrets on top of the wall, like every 50 feet. So yes, in fact, you can do that. And so anyway, I have gotten like several DMs today about the fact that they were so glad somebody came in to.

1:06:46 Because I guess those two together are notorious for doing shit like that. And what was interesting is there's another guy, I was talking about the satellite capability, and there was this other guy that came in that said, you know, hey, I'm a colonel, and they're not all that good. And, you know, they're focused on doing all kinds of stuff. They're not just dedicated to the border. And I looked at his profile.

1:07:15 He has books on a shelf. First of all, he's in Austria. He's not in the U.S. And he has books on a shelf of Lenin and Churchill. And so I sent the picture to Alpha, who was also on the space. And I'm like, oh, my God. And so basically, you know, I came back and told him I actually know quite a bit about the whole satellite system. And just in case you guys don't know.

1:07:43 Elon Musk has rented space on every Starlink. So the entire Starlink network provides a defense capability that includes our border. And just so you guys know, in case it comes up in a space and you want to comment on it, we have an entire fairly new combatant commander called Northcom that is in Colorado Springs whose whole job is the security of the border.

1:08:13 to the extent that the administration will allow them to do it. So they have the resources. They have the resources focused there. What gets done with the information is a different thing. And I had made the point that everybody that comes across that border's phones are trapped. And they all have phones. They turn them on and take pictures of the people as they dump them on the other side of the border. So they're coming up on the net. They're trackable.

1:08:41 We have an entire history of the people that are doing this. And then, of course, Alpha came on and said basically from his cop experience that, you know, your GPS is on all the time, not just when you have your phone on. You can turn your phone on and unless it's in a Faraday bag, it's still going to be transmitting your GPS location. So they know they know who all of them are. And their big thing was, how do you deport them all? Well, I had to.

1:09:11 Finally, towards the end of it, I had to go because I was getting tired. And I told Alpha, I don't know whether he said it or not after I left, but I told him to tell him that the deportation is not going to be that difficult. You utilize E-Verify and you start imprisoning any company that hires illegals and you cut off all of their aid benefits. They will begin to self-deport immediately.

1:09:38 Because they're not going to freaking sit in the United States and starve their ass to death. It ain't going to happen. Go ahead, Miles. Yeah, I'm glad you were in there last night. TJ's a chaos agent. And then Erickson, well, we've been dealing with Erickson for a long time. And he just kind of is like mockingbird media.

1:10:08 unto himself he just says the same thing over and over again and um but it was really interesting that colonel that that came in there i was trying to vet that guy and i think he was a colonel from the salvation army so um because i i couldn't figure out what branch he was from so there was uh some chaos agents in there and um but it's interesting you know donald trump

1:10:36 Once he gets into, you know, the presidency and the executive branch. Now, not that we would want to utilize all the tools in the toolbox, but under certain situations, you can take the whole fleet of aircraft in a national emergency. So, I mean, they're talking about, well, how can he utilize?

1:11:03 you know, all these different things. And if he has to, he can't. Is this correct? Well, it's not the entire fleet. So what the program you're talking about is called CRAFT. It is Civilian Reserve Air Fleet, CRAF. And we pay airlines a certain amount of money on an annual basis that ensures.

1:11:31 Their aircraft are available in an emergency for us to use, and it is a percentage of their overall fleet. So it is not all of them. We don't expect them to, you know, die on their sword of supporting their government. But it is a large portion, and it varies based on the time.

1:11:55 of what percentage and the price that we're paying them to do that, to make them available. So you bring up an excellent point. It will not be because we are short of aircraft. Thanks for clarifying that. Hitler did nothing wrong. What you got? I'm sorry? I can't understand what you're saying. I'm sorry, did you have a question for the colonel?

1:12:45 I cut them off. Okay. Master Kaplan. Master Kaplan, do you have something? Your mic might be backwards, so mute your mic and then try to talk. How about now? Yeah, we can hear you. Oh, wow. Okay. I listened last night, and I almost got the feeling that there's that.

1:13:22 That one guy in particular was controlled opposition, more or less. Me too. I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Thank you for saying that. I was trying to post things in the chat as quickly as I could. Just listening to how the conversation evolved was just bizarre. Because as soon as you refuted any point he made, he would change it to something else. And I'm like, what is this guy even talking about right now? I called him on that. He lied.

1:13:52 about it. I didn't do that. Dude, you shut up. And I just nailed everything that you said as a lie. And now you're changing your story. Well, the court said that Trump did this. You're like, well, no, actually, the Supreme Court reversed that. Well, that's not what I meant. Wait, what? Thank you for bringing that up. So his point was that the court said that Trump illegally used the funds from the Department of Defense.

1:14:22 And then I asked him what court case he was talking about. And he said the Ninth Circuit, which, of course, I laughed at because Ninth Circuit is the most overturned appellate court in the country. And he's like, oh, well, you don't like my answers. And I'm like, no, I'm just pointing out that they're the most overturned court. So do you know if it went to the Supreme Court and what that decision was? And he goes, no. And I said, well, let me tell you what it was. The Supreme Court ordered that wall to be finished.

1:14:49 Everything that he had obligated, all of that iron that was laying on the ground, they have to go back and finish the wall. And that was a court case that Missouri filed that went to the Supreme Court that that was the decision on. And that's when he turned around and goes, well, you didn't let me finish. You cut me off. And I'm like, dude, no, I did not. I'm just answering what you said. Well, do you have proof of that? And so I'm Googling it. Well, not Google, but I'm.

1:15:17 I'm finding the court case. Then when I gave him the court case, he's like, well, that's not what I was said. You cut me off. And what I really meant to say was, so he just kept moving the target. What I meant to say was that he said initially that he was going to get Mexico to pay for it. And I pointed out, he basically did, if you know anything about economics, because of the tariffs and the

1:15:45 The moving back or the canceling of the Ford plant back into the United States, he did a couple of in the renegotiation of NAFTA and all of that stuff that basically ended up reappropriating money back into our pockets that we didn't have to pay out to Mexico, which we would have otherwise had to have paid. And therefore, boom, it's done. And he's like, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. But he really didn't like being called out.

1:16:15 at all. I will say you did a much better job than I could have for sure. I had hit a point, I don't know, after maybe five minutes of listening to him talk that I really couldn't take him seriously anymore. And you should, I just wanted to say you did a really good job, much better than I could have. I couldn't do it. Thank you. And I probably would not have done it. People like that make my head hurt because they're stupid.

1:16:44 But I was so hyped up on coffee and so good to go after having done the show with Alpha. I was like, bring it on. So anyway, usually I don't have the patience for that kind of crap. But yeah, I was good to go. And thank you very much for saying that. I appreciate it. I told my husband when I finally did go to bed at like two o'clock in the morning, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so wired. But anyway.

1:17:15 Fed up. Go ahead. Yes. Interesting. When you said about the Cato Institute, it's because they're they're somebody I've followed for a long time. And, you know, like a lot of people, you think they're good organizations because, you know, some of the suggestions they put out and they the insidious thing is they'll hire good people. They don't know that they're funded by the CIA. I've got a book I quote all the time from a called The Dirty Dozen. And it's all about the Supreme Court cases ruined America.

1:17:48 Love that book. And I actually went to a talk. The guy who wrote that came to Western North Carolina when he had it out. And it was amazing. Got to meet him and it was just great. But then you find out behind the scenes, the people driving them. And, you know, it's kind of like what's going on with Heritage right now with this, you know, Project 2025. You know, they bring a few good people in. It's like, oh, let's get Ben Carson to write a thing for it. Let's, you know, get, you know.

1:18:17 four or five other people from the Trump administration. And let's get these extremists. And then, oh, now we can tie it to Trump because people from his administration wrote it, who had nothing to do with any of the rest of it. It's such an insidious, disgusting thing. And now I'm seeing it in the infiltrators in the RFK Jr. camp. Now that that whole thing's happening, I've been going into a lot of their spaces. And it's funny because we've already experienced the ones that were the Haley people, were the...

1:18:47 the the sanis people that were you know so in dissent and telling untruths and you know there's things to question with trump certainly but you don't lie about it right and now i'm hearing not out of most of them but i'm hearing these ones and it's it's verbatim it's the same playbook in almost the same words and the same exact lies coming from these you know people they're supposed to be rfk and saying why we're not following what he's doing because trump's this that and the other

1:19:16 And it's like if you followed that track, you see it's like there has to be somebody behind it because they're not going to have the same message through these different camps unless they're paid operatives and they're all coming upon the same script and coming out of the same same playbook. Yeah, I agree completely. And that's kind of the way I was when I first started reading some of the material out of the Hoover Institute. You know, it sounds good.

1:19:48 But then you start looking at where it's at, what it's done. It has information that it has gotten from president administration that they basically restrict. Even if you go to school out there, you can't get the material. They have it locked up. A lot of it had to do with World War II.

1:20:11 If you listen to Anthony Sutton, whose material I cite often, he says he used to work for the Hoover Institute. When he wrote that trilogy about FDR, they told him if he publishes, he will never publish anything at the Hoover Institute again. So, yeah, you really have to be careful about your sources. And, you know, unbeknownst to him, it just gave me the opportunity to highlight that to a whole new group of people.

1:20:42 Hey, Molly, try unmuting your mic. Thank you. A reminder, the mics are backwards. Or maybe it's trumpy. There we go. Whatever, whoever it is, thank you. Okay. Huh? Oh. Aren't you special? Bridget, can you hear me? Yes, ma'am, I can. So.

1:21:21 SR-71, go ahead and say what you got to say. Well, for some of us, a red mic's a hot mic, I guess. Anyway, what I was going to say, Colonel, is your patience is just unbelievable. But on top of that, it sounds like you had one hell of an interesting night last night because I heard you go off on bends on Alpha, and that was just absolutely hilarious, my point. But boy, did you lay into that one big time.

1:21:51 Yeah, I just hit certain levels of frustration in some of these camps, especially when we work as hard as we do. And he knows, I mean, he follows me. He knows the stuff we put out. He asked me about the best resource for Operation Gladio. And then in the last few days, he makes comments like, am I the only one out here talking about the CIA?

1:22:21 Hello. So, yeah. And he said that yesterday, which kind of just like got under my skin a little bit. I try not to let that happen, but that really bothered me knowing how hard we work in exposing that kind of stuff. But anyway. Hey, boss. I'm sorry. I missed it. What happened? Just yesterday, Ben's has been on a roll of.

1:22:53 exposing the cyber version of Gladio operations and the complicity of the State Department and the Department of Defense working with the CIA, blah, blah, blah. And so over the last few days since the Telegram guy got arrested, he's been really kind of up in his game in calling them out and talking about the interface of the ambassador over there and how come McCall.

1:23:21 who is the House foreign affairs person, hasn't made any statement, hasn't done anything, hasn't launched an investigation into the complicity of the U.S. in making that arrest decision. And I have said at least 20 or 30 times since the telegram thing came out that McCall's wife is a CIA agent.

1:23:48 She started her career in the Office of Navy Intel. She worked directly for the CIA. Her family are billionaires and own like the entire middle south region of media in the entire country, i.e. CIA. So if you look at her family, her family's CIA. And he's married to her.

1:24:15 She's like his handler is the way I would describe it. And or at least she functions as one. And I have said that no one else has said it. They just keep saying out loud. Well, how come McCall hasn't said anything? Well, I told you how come he hadn't said anything. He's compromised. He's not going to say anything. And then.

1:24:41 Again, you can go look at his page. He said a couple of times, am I the only one talking, calling the CIA out, or am I the only one calling the State Department out? No, Mike, you are not. Grab the dog. Sorry. Hey, Molly, did you have a question? Sorry about that earlier. Barely. I'm sorry. We can hear you. Just speak up real loud. Mainly, I just wanted to give you guys hugs and please post pictures.

1:25:35 Oh, well, they're not chicks, actually. They're full grown. My niece had them. She's had them for about nine months and they decided to do cows instead of chickens. So I got the chickens because I'm not going to do cows. And so we're kind of doing a family rotation of food thing going on. And I will, I will post you. We've got like eight eggs in the last 24 hours between yesterday and today.

1:26:05 We're already well on our way. And I named, there's five hens and I named them after the five women in my mom's family. Gorgeous. So I will definitely post pictures. Thank you for asking about them. All along. Hi, Colonel. I just wanted to quickly recommend and tell folks about a couple of articles at Kennedy's and King website by Jim DiEugenio.

1:26:37 And it relates to this kind of swing, pivotal swing period of 63, 64. And it relates to the popular historian, David Halberstam. And Jim wrote a two or three part series on Halberstam, who is, in my opinion, just so absolutely critical and very bad in his very propagandistic for CIA in his coverage of the pivotal.

1:27:06 63, 64 period. And the thing about David Halberstam that's really important to understand is just how widely reviewed his book, The Best and the Brightest, was. It came out in 72, but it was referred to, you know, over and over again. And it just profoundly influenced the misperception of, you know, especially JFK's policy in Vietnam.

1:27:35 And so what's especially interesting to me, because I'm very I'm kind of like into studying what I call the fake left, is that largely David Halberstam's quote unquote analysis of this period was echoed by the fake left. And in other words, there's a point where like mainstream New York Times and the fake left will be very, very different on a lot of things.

1:28:04 That are what I call like capillary. In other words, they're kind of more a little bit more esoteric, but they're not going to affect like the big narrative that reaches every single high school. Whereas it's very noteworthy that in people like fake left writers like Noam Chomsky and Alexander Coburn, which had were just echoed endlessly instead of the left actually reading U.S. historians, they were reading.

1:28:31 These sort of clip notes version by Halberstam. It's just it's so critical, in other words, that we that we examine exactly the propaganda that Halberstam was doing for the CIA in this absolutely critical period of 63, 64. And again, you know, one of the main points is that Halberstam later on, he feigned to be like against Vietnam escalation in his second booklet.

1:29:01 In his first book, he really was pro-escalation. And he later kind of lied about it, and this was echoed by the New York Times and the fake left, that, oh, he was always anti-Vietnam War, when in fact he was anything but. He wanted to get rid of Diem, in other words, because he deemed Diem an insufficient political base for the U.S. escalation to occur.

1:29:28 And later he lied about that and presented it like he had always been against the escalation. Can you do me a favor and post some of those links into the purple pill so people have them to do the further research? Will do, but I'm just a little bit unclear about what you mean by the purple pill here. The lower right-hand corner has a purple oval that looks like an actual capsule, like a pill. Lower right. Okay.

1:29:58 The lower right hand corner of the screen that has like the little speaking button. Oh, OK. Yeah. There's a number on it. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. OK. I didn't know what it was either. I when I first got on spaces and everybody talked about the purple pill, I'm like, what the hell? There's no pill on here. And then somebody.

1:30:21 Yeah, I heard somebody talk about the purple, the thing that looks like a pill, and I'm like, oh, damn, it does. Right. Okay, will do. Thank you. But everybody keep a lookout. Thanks. Excellent show. Thank you. Trump Frog, what you doing? Froggy, you got to maybe unmute mute? You have to mute. Sorry, I'm driving, so I was trying to get to the unmute button. Oh, okay. How are y'all doing?

1:30:59 Oh, my God. Good. How are you? Oh, I'm good. I'm just grinding away like a skateboarder on a rail. I'll tell you what. When you were talking about that controlled opposition guy, oh, man, I was burning. Couldn't I get to my phone to jump in and just take care of that guy for you? Sliding the conversation, just moving it around. Every time he tried to bring up propaganda and you shut him down, I was like, man.

1:31:28 Why do I have to be working and I can't jump in here and light this dude up? I'd never heard of the space. I'd never heard of those people. But evidently, everybody else knows them. Yeah, I'm just going to leave that there. But I just, I'm more on the, you know, what you talk about. I'm more on Trump or on Q. And I do want to bring this up.

1:31:54 Boy, the panic in D.C. and the rage in the media is amazing. They're freaking out now that Trump is tweeting Q stuff again. Right? I am enjoying it so much. Oh, my goodness. I think we're about to get into some good, good stuff. I think people should be excited. And I do want to say this, and I haven't been in spaces, so if it's been said ad nauseum, people, don't fight with the RFK people.

1:32:22 Just understand we're all the same. They just view what's important to them a little differently, like the environment or health and vaccines. But we all like that, too, even though we focus on the deep state and the corruption in the government. They'll start to see what they're doing with him and understand him and Trump are more similar than different, just like we are more similar with them. Because I'm hearing all about this from Stellar. People are just raging. And I'm like, nothing you can do.

1:32:51 Just know that this is, I think this is, you know, like I said before, it's all part of the plan. Yeah. Go ahead, Cousinette. So, okay. Did it work? Yep. Oh, cool. All right. God, old dog, new tricks. Killing me. So I don't know if anybody heard, just in passing today, because I was working and I have to confirm everything. Cornel West is actually, surprise, running for president.

1:33:24 as on the liberal ticket, I guess. And not for nothing, somebody tried to buy him off, pay off all of his campaign debts. Now, this is Michigan specifically to get him off the ballot in Michigan. And the Michigan person in charge of elections, Jocelyn, I think now.

1:33:53 wouldn't let JFK or excuse me, RFK to get off the ballot. Right. She would not allow him to to remove his name off of that ballot. Now, Cornel West tried to remove his name from the ballot. She said, OK. And the Supreme Court there said, oh, no, you don't. So, you know, she's appealing it. So Cornel's been bought off.

1:34:23 And there's actually an interview kicking around that he said just exactly that. So anyway, I thought that was rather interesting. Speaking of people, you know, but it's not collusion, you know, no election interference or collusion or anything. Cornel West said he's not going to run and he's going to endorse Donald Trump because Democrats don't like black people and they're trying to steal the election. He's not running.

1:34:53 He tried to get his name taken off the ballot and she wouldn't let him. And the court actually said, no, you can't. But when RFK said, I want to leave the ballot. And she says, no, you, you know, I'm not. So, you know, guys, I'm, I'm going to dinner. My ride just got here. We have friends visiting from Michigan. So I'm speaking of Michigan.

1:35:20 Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to get the scoop firsthand. So let me go. And I appreciate y'all all being here tonight. And we'll be together at 4 o'clock tomorrow. Cool. And hopefully the mic thing will get sorted out. Yeah. What kind of witchery is that? I know. All right. Enjoy your dinner. All right. Take care, guys. See you tomorrow.

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“And also, VBI officers were trained by CIA and FBI. And where did they do that training? Oh, you know, in the United States at the Georgetown University. And that was for like the higher ups. So the V…”

Vietnam Bureau of Information funded The Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 9:43

“on which the Phoenix program was created. And so you have the majority of Michigan State's police advisors that were deployed to Vietnam were either former or retired state troopers, large city detect…”

CIA trained Vietnam Bureau of Information host_asserted ▶ 10:11

“They advised the BBI and trained Dems Secret Service along with the CIA officers on or agents. And they they all were hired under the label of a professor. So you have an entire school population of p…”

Michigan State University trained Vietnam Bureau of Information host_asserted ▶ 10:11

Ngo Dinh Diem ordered_assassination_of Can Lao Party book_quoted ▶ 12:20

“All the Can Lao people there watching me. And in those days, it was just impossible to resign. Many others had tried. They were just let off in the middle of the night by Dems men dressed as Viet Cong…”

CIA covered_up Viet Cong host_asserted ▶ 12:49

“Kidnapping these people and disappearing them, dressed up as the Viet Cong and accusing North Vietnam as doing it. And this is exactly the tenets of Operation Gladio in full view of everything. So the…”

Robert Scigliano removed_from_power Vietnam Bureau of Information host_asserted ▶ 31:49

“One of the guys, which was the assistant Michigan State University project chief, Robert Scigliano, S-C-I-G-L-I-A-N-O. While his boss was on vacation in Vietnam, he kicked the VBI advisory unit out.…”

Byron Engle founded Public Safety Division host_asserted ▶ 32:49

“The Public Safety Division is the same entity that we found in Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Brazil. They do all of their mass murder under the header of public safety. It was created by the CIA officer B…”

Frank Walton headed USAID host_asserted ▶ 33:16

“and was set up to provide technical assistance and training to the police and security officials in over 52 countries. And every one of those countries we've talked about because every one of those co…”

Combined Studies Group funded Guardia Civil host_asserted ▶ 33:46

“Walton. And its field offices were directed by CIA-managed Combined Studies Group. That was the name of the entity, another false front that was created by the CIA to sound nebulous. And it funded cad…”

CIA front_for Combined Studies Group host_asserted ▶ 33:46

Friedrich Paulus founded SAVAK host_asserted ▶ 35:12

“where they went, what they did. Several other major changes occurred during this time. And on the assumption that someday the communists would be defeated, the Michigan State University in 1957 had re…”

Joint U.S. Military Advisory Group overthrew Regional Forces host_asserted ▶ 36:40

“These ragtag squads were targeted against the VCI using intelligence provided by their VBI. However, in 1960, at the end of the year, the U.S. Military Advisory Group seized control of the constable g…”

Regional Forces member_of Ministry of Defense (South Vietnam) host_asserted ▶ 37:08

“armed with automatic rifles and machine guns. That's us. We had the CIA set up stay-behind units, and then the military comes in and gives them their weapon caches. That's what we're describing here i…”

Government of Vietnam carried_out_attack Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 39:25

“constructing entire new cities under a slave labor concept. So when construction had been completed, the South Vietnamese army units leveled the surrounding villages and resettled the inhabitants into…”

Government of Vietnam carried_out_attack Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 41:33

“They completely leveled their village. They destroyed it after they enslaved them and made them build these agro villas. And in doing so, basically surrounded them. They're imprisoning the population …”

Nguyen Loc Hoa founded Sea Swallows host_asserted ▶ 45:26

“Until they were thrown out of the country. Looks a lot like what they did. And totally screwed it up. Father Hoa. Created a thing called sea swallows. Like the bird. And it basically dovetailed into t…”

Nguyen Loc Hoa member_of Kuomintang host_asserted ▶ 45:55

“was imprisoned in the 1940s by Ho Chi Minh because he was conspiring with the KMT army of Chiang Kai-shek against Northern Vietnamese people. And he is a Catholic priest. His real name is Nguyen Loc H…”

Nguyen Loc Hoa carried_out_attack Viet Cong book_quoted ▶ 48:47

“merely to fight against the Viet Cong as a religious priest. In an article in the Saturday Evening Post in February 17th, 1962, it says, quote, Father Hoa personally led his pitiful small force into t…”

Nguyen Loc Hoa carried_out_attack Viet Cong host_asserted ▶ 49:44

“Father Hoa used CIA funds to run an intel network consisting of volunteers, of sympathetic farmers, basically paid agents, along with a slew of full-time actual paid agents. On the basis of this intel…”

Nguyen Loc Hoa founded Popular Force Battalion host_asserted ▶ 50:14

“whom he used as slave laborers for himself to harvest food that they then sold. In the evenings, sea swallow cadre indoctrinated their captives with religious and political propaganda, prompting the w…”

Viet Minh member_of Vietnamese Joint Staff host_asserted ▶ 52:30

“So we're going into the Nixon and Eisenhower vice presidents and we're going into the election year where Nixon was running against JFK. Two officers in the operation division of the Vietnamese joint …”

Viet Minh member_of Can Lao Party host_asserted ▶ 52:30

Nguyen Van Thieu carried_out_attack Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 52:59

“came to a head in November, which would have been the election, in 1960 when a group of disgruntled Des Viet paratroopers led a coup against Dem. Although it failed, the coup attempt grew attention to…”

Ho Chi Minh founded People's Revolutionary Party host_asserted ▶ 53:57

“1960 announced the formation of the National Front for Liberation of South Vietnam and called for the expulsion of all Americans. Ho Chi Minh appointed Lu Duan, D-U-A-N, Secretary General of the South…”

Ho Chi Minh founded FNLA host_asserted ▶ 53:57

Ho Chi Minh appointed Lu Duan host_asserted ▶ 53:57

Ben Carson member_of Project 2025 host_asserted ▶ 1:17:48

“Love that book. And I actually went to a talk. The guy who wrote that came to Western North Carolina when he had it out. And it was amazing. Got to meet him and it was just great. But then you find ou…”

Antony Sutton member_of Hoover Institution host_asserted ▶ 1:20:11

“If you listen to Anthony Sutton, whose material I cite often, he says he used to work for the Hoover Institute. When he wrote that trilogy about FDR, they told him if he publishes, he will never publi…”

Mike McCall member_of House Foreign Affairs Committee host_asserted ▶ 1:23:21

“who is the House foreign affairs person, hasn't made any statement, hasn't done anything, hasn't launched an investigation into the complicity of the U.S. in making that arrest decision. And I have sa…”

David Halberstam founded The Best and the Brightest caller_asserted ▶ 1:27:06

“63, 64 period. And the thing about David Halberstam that's really important to understand is just how widely reviewed his book, The Best and the Brightest, was. It came out in 72, but it was referred …”

David Halberstam targeted_for_regime_change Ngô Đình Diệm caller_asserted ▶ 1:29:01

“In his first book, he really was pro-escalation. And he later kind of lied about it, and this was echoed by the New York Times and the fake left, that, oh, he was always anti-Vietnam War, when in fact…”

Cornel West member_of Michigan caller_asserted ▶ 1:33:24

“as on the liberal ticket, I guess. And not for nothing, somebody tried to buy him off, pay off all of his campaign debts. Now, this is Michigan specifically to get him off the ballot in Michigan. And …”

U.S. Supreme Court removed_from_power Cornel West caller_asserted ▶ 1:33:53

“wouldn't let JFK or excuse me, RFK to get off the ballot. Right. She would not allow him to to remove his name off of that ballot. Now, Cornel West tried to remove his name from the ballot. She said, …”

Jocelyn Benson removed_from_power Robert F. Kennedy caller_asserted ▶ 1:33:53