Viet Minh organization
also: Viet Minh League, Viet Minh guerrillas, Viet Minh unit, Vietnam men, Nationalists, Viet Minh contact, Viet Minh stay-behind agents, Vietnam Doc Lap Dong Minh Hoi, Vietnam Independence League, League for the Independence of Vietnam
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Claims (15)
Ho Chi Minh member_of
Viet Minh host_asserted
“A ceasefire was accepted by both sides without an official surrender. In the meantime, some Vietnamese, Viet Minh forces were on the way to Hanoi. Diop was instructed to leave some forces in Thai Nguyen and walk to Hanoi. Viet Minh forces w…”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam history 1940’s and prior @ 1:00:47
Viet Minh member_of
Vietnamese Joint Staff host_asserted
“So we're going into the Nixon and Eisenhower vice presidents and we're going into the election year where Nixon was running against JFK. Two officers in the operation division of the Vietnamese joint staff were arrested as being Viet Minh a…”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam Phoenix Program @ 52:30
Viet Minh member_of
Can Lao Party host_asserted
“So we're going into the Nixon and Eisenhower vice presidents and we're going into the election year where Nixon was running against JFK. Two officers in the operation division of the Vietnamese joint staff were arrested as being Viet Minh a…”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam Phoenix Program @ 52:30
DEER trained
Viet Minh host_asserted
“base area to train them for operations against the Japanese. When Thomas and his team arrived in late July, they were greeted by a large banner proclaiming, Welcome to our American friends. With the tone of their work set, Deer Team went ab…”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam history 1940’s and prior @ 7:19
Viet Minh worked_with
Office of Strategic Services host_asserted
“and were preaching the gospel according to Ho to anyone interested in independence. Viet Minh held six provinces near Hanoi and was working with the forerunner to the CIA, the OSS, recovering downed pilots as a part of 14th Air Force. A stu…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Phoenix Program part 2 @ 41:22
Viet Minh filled_power_vacuum
Vietnam host_asserted
“The Americans then accompanied the Viet Minh, now carrying new American weapons, to the capital of Hanoi. And all along their journey, the Vietnamese American forces were welcomed by cheering villagers, waving flags, and offering food. The …”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam history 1940’s and prior @ 8:18
Ho Chi Minh founded
Viet Minh host_asserted
“were accustomed to simply accepting their lot and basically not questioning a political order. And Ho Chi Minh realized that that's what had got them into their colonialist occupation and wanted to change that. So he created Viet Minh, the …”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Viet Cong vs Viet Minh; Charlie @ 15:21
Ho Chi Minh member_of
Viet Minh host_asserted
“Which is really interesting if we were to believe all the things that was written about Ho Chi Minh, why wouldn't he actually step into the leadership immediately? He didn't because it wasn't about him. In reality, the Viet Minh was steered…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Viet Cong vs Viet Minh; Charlie @ 27:33
Lu Duan member_of
Viet Minh host_asserted
“D-U-A-N. And again, keep in mind, I'm putting caveat or quotation marks on the communist part of it. A native of the southern provinces, Lee Duane, was active in these groups in the Mekong Delta region in the 1940s. And by the mid-50s, he w…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Viet Cong vs Viet Minh; Charlie @ 31:30
United States targeted_for_regime_change
Viet Minh host_asserted
“namely via the CIA, has went in and couped a government. I could cut and paste this as their demands. And yet in every single one of those cases, our government called them communist and went in and killed several hundred thousand, if not m…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Viet Cong vs Viet Minh; Charlie @ 8:19
Viet Minh carried_out_attack
France host_asserted
“from the opposite side to draw attention. And then they'd all run up with their dirt and pretend like they're carrying, you know, your rice out and blah, blah, blah. But over a nine month period of time, they built that entire tunnel system…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Viet Cong vs Viet Minh; Charlie @ 41:20
Ho Chi Minh founded
Viet Minh host_asserted
“gathered the various nationalist groups under the banner of Viet Minh and called for all good revolutionaries to stand up and unite with the people and throw out the Japanese and the French. Leading the charge was General Guyop, which we ta…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Phoenix Program part 2 @ 40:53
General Giap headed
Viet Minh host_asserted
“gathered the various nationalist groups under the banner of Viet Minh and called for all good revolutionaries to stand up and unite with the people and throw out the Japanese and the French. Leading the charge was General Guyop, which we ta…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Phoenix Program part 2 @ 40:53
Ho Chi Minh member_of
Viet Minh host_asserted
“Allowing us to be able to go back and actually look at the here's the criteria of what makes you a communist. Ho Chi Minh was not a communist, at least at this particular time in what all that we have discovered that he's advocating. He abs…”
▶ Operation Gladio-Vietnam Viet Cong vs Viet Minh; Charlie @ 1:29:57
Chiang Kai-shek ordered_assassination_of
Viet Minh host_asserted
“You may be approached by a group known as Viet Minh, which is more or less communist, although they pretend to be strictly nationalist, unquote. Now, what's important to understand is when we're talking about the Chinese here, we're actuall…”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam history 1940’s and prior @ 40:26
Mentions (83)
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That's not what the CIA wanted. So one of the very first things they had to do was demonize Ho Chi Minh. And they did that psychologically by labeling him a communist, as we now know, and changing Viet Minh, which were national heroes, to V…
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from the 14th Air Force the previous year when he escorted a downed American pilot out of Vietnam into China. The OSS agent, Charles Finn, F-E-N-N, tracked down the man in question, Ho Chi Minh, describing him as articulate, charismatic, an…
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would also be valuable assets to the war against Japan. Soon thereafter, Ho Chi Minh became an OSS agent. His name under the OSS secret agent name was Lucius, L-U-C-I-U-S. The OSS then sent in Deer Team, Deer Team commanded by Major Allison…
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base area to train them for operations against the Japanese. When Thomas and his team arrived in late July, they were greeted by a large banner proclaiming, Welcome to our American friends. With the tone of their work set, Deer Team went ab…
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Their training did not last long, however, with the bombing of the atomic bombs on Japan in August 1945, World War II ended. Upon receiving the news, the Americans of Deer Team and the Viet Minh laughed and drank long into the night. Thomas…
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The Americans then accompanied the Viet Minh, now carrying new American weapons, to the capital of Hanoi. And all along their journey, the Vietnamese American forces were welcomed by cheering villagers, waving flags, and offering food. The …
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By the time the first Americans arrived in Hanoi on August 22nd to help prepare for the formal Japanese surrender, Vietnam men were firmly in control of the North. The man in charge of the American mission to Hanoi was named Captain Archime…
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Greetings in English festooned the city alongside demands for Vietnamese independence in English, Chinese, and French. Patty witnessed the first parade of the Viet Minh troops and the first international ceremony where the Vietnamese flag w…
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They actually gave the U.S. primetime spot. Vo Nguyen Giap, G-I-A-P, who would later become famous as the Viet Minh's preeminent military commander, said, quote, this is the first time in history of Vietnam that our flag has been displayed …
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the OSS officers. This apparent U.S. recognition of Ho Chi Minh and Vietnamese independence further inflamed the French, whose opinion, as most colonials had expected, the Americans to refuse to deal with this upstart government and help Fr…
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also angered the French. Although the Viet Minh in the South did not enjoy the same level of control as they did in the North, they were every bit as concerned with making a positive impression on the Americans. Dewey, like Patty, was royal…
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Tall, handsome, very rich, idealistic, it was only natural for the Vietnamese to fall in love with Americans. This seemed true even at the highest levels. Perhaps the relationship can best be illustrated by one of the last meetings between …
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for their own benefit. This Wikipedia entry on this guy goes on and it acknowledges the fact that he was part of the OSS deer team and that they worked directly for a major Allison Thomas and with Ho Chi Minh. And it says that…
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a reconsideration of events in 1944 and 1945. Circumstances giving rise to empowering the Vietnam resulted in the August Revolution. After its formation in 1941, Viet Minh gradually seized power, taking the advantage of a number of events. …
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Okay, hold on. I need to remove Bridget. I'm going to invite Stellar to be a co-host as well. And then let me go down and find Bridget and put her back in. She lost sound. Okay. So, Viet Minh gradually sees power taking advantage of a numbe…
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a wide array of agents, including French and Vietnamese personnel. Although there was no concrete evidence about a bond between GBT and the Viet Minh, Cecil Curry claimed that since 1942, Viet Minh cadre had provided helpful information to …
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And if they have all the information and you don't because they tell you not to talk to these people because of a label, you become less effective in wartime. So you can never pay attention to bullshit like that. One of the tasks of GBT was…
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On November 11, 1944, a U.S. plane piloted by Lieutenant Rudolph Shaw encountered engine trouble while flying over the Vietnamese frontier and parachuted safely to the ground. Although French authorities saw this and dispatched to locate hi…
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How do you do, pilot? Where are you from? Shaw was reportedly so excited that he hugged Ho and later said to him, when I heard your voice, I felt like I was hearing a voice from my father back in the United States. Finn gave an account of t…
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who had parachuted into the jungle when his plane was shot down by Japanese. And there was no confirmation that it was shot down. A lot of people believed that it was just a mechanical problem, but whatever. The French and Japanese actively…
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of March 9th, silenced all the GBT and their existing networks. This meant no information coming and going on targets, air defense, Japanese troop movements, nothing, not even weather reports. Finn had just heard about the Japanese connecte…
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I told him about our work and asked whether he could help us. He said that he might be able to help us, but they had no radios, no radio operators, nor any other equipment. We discussed taking a radio and a generator and a radio operator so…
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They went back to Vietnam. After arriving in Vietnam at Bac Bo, B-A-C-B-O, at the end of April, Tan wrote his initial impression. The country where I am at is very poor. They could not afford to pay taxes and still exist. As near as I can j…
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The GBT Intelligent Network began to take shape again. Charles Finn and Harry Bernard received the reports in Kunming and passed information to the Air Ground Aid Service, an aid organization of the 14th Air Force. Training of the cadre was…
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During these months together, Ho, Tan, and Shin developed a close friendship. He recalled, quote, my relationship with Ho became closer. I began to see him as a man dedicated his life to win the freedom for his people, unquote. During these…
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in a load of supplies, radio sets, medicine, gadgets, weapons. This drop caused a sensation and Ho Chi Minh's stock went up even more than it already had because this was the confirmation that everything he said was true. Although Viet Minh…
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chosen by his peers through what Scotton referred to as the only honest elections ever held in South Vietnam. The morale officer's job, he said, was to keep people honest and have them admit mistakes if they made them. Not only did Scotton …
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that we're trying to set up a democracy using communist tactics. Just want to make sure that doesn't go over anybody's head. Scott went on to say, people from the other side knew the value of motivation, but they confessed too much. So we r…
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had been former Viet Minh heroes, remember, because they were fighting to consolidate, unify their country against the Japanese and the French. It was counterproductive for the political action teams and counter-terrorists to hunt them down…
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quote, the GBN's most serious mistake, unquote. Under its provision, anyone convicted of acts of sabotage or infringement on national security could be sentenced to death or life imprisonment with no appeal. Making matters worse was the fac…
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Because that, for them, was the last straw. Viet Minh cadres moved into villages from secluded base camps in central highlands. And after four years of Dems-style, quote-unquote, democracy, the rural population had basically embraced insurg…
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the Ho Chi Minh Trail through the rugged mountains and fever-ridden jungles of South Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Dong 559 paved the way for the Viet Minh veterans who had gone north in 1954 and returned in 1959 to organize self-defense gro…
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In reality, though, by uprooting the people from their ancestral homes, the program generated even more Viet Minh nationalism and sympathizers. So this is one mistake after another mistake after another mistake that psychologically is embol…
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that had been embedded in the CIA to bring his church group to South Vietnam. And the deal was that Father Hoa was appointed chief of a district where 90% of the people were Viet Cong supporters, Viet Minh. So now keep in mind, they already…
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Things were not going well in other areas. The military security service was infiltrated with northern agents, and in June of 1959, the VBI arrested the personal bodyguard of one of the chiefs of staff who had been spying on him. January 19…
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So we're going into the Nixon and Eisenhower vice presidents and we're going into the election year where Nixon was running against JFK. Two officers in the operation division of the Vietnamese joint staff were arrested as being Viet Minh a…
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gathered the various nationalist groups under the banner of Viet Minh and called for all good revolutionaries to stand up and unite with the people and throw out the Japanese and the French. Leading the charge was General Guyop, which we ta…
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and were preaching the gospel according to Ho to anyone interested in independence. Viet Minh held six provinces near Hanoi and was working with the forerunner to the CIA, the OSS, recovering downed pilots as a part of 14th Air Force. A stu…
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They plundered the city and disarmed the Japanese. The French then returned to Hanoi and drove out the Viet Minh and displaced Chiang Kai-shek's forces, which they then went to Shanghai temporarily. And this is when you get Lord Monbatten i…
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donned surplus U.S. uniforms and became the nucleus of three divisions which had reconquered the South by the end of the year. That allowed the British to exit, and boom, you have the Bao De, who was the former emperor back in charge, who i…
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and the French were up to their old tricks with a vengeance. The French shelled Haiphong Harbor, killing 6,000 Vietnamese, and Ho slipped underground, and American officials passively observed while the French conducted punitive missions. D…
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and when the French ignored them, slipping off to buy contacts and agents in the military, government, and private sector. The outgunned Viet Minh, meanwhile, used protracted warfare, secret cells, and guerrilla units to attack the French. …
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Private paramilitary self-defense forces, that sounds familiar because that's exactly what happened in Colombia, and spy nets. And the French officers organized with CIA advice commando battalions to put down the Viet Minh. Reporting direct…
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which of course he then just put into a Swiss bank account. In 1952, American advisors began training Vietnamese units. In December 53, an army attache unit arrived in Hanoi and its officers and enlisted men began interrogating Viet Minh pr…
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to take over the Vietnamese army from the French. The Special Technical and Economic Mission provided CIA officers under Station Chief Emmett McCarthy with the cover they needed to mount political operations and negotiate contracts with the…
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And at the Geneva Conference, Vietnam was divided along the 17th parallel, pending a nationwide election to be held in 1956. The French were to withdraw from the North and the Viet Minh from the South, where the U.S. was set to displace the…
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who had been over in the Philippines assassinating people over there to install their fake president there. He was a confidential advisor to Alan Dulles and John Foster Dulles. Lansdale defeated the United Sec Front in the Philippines, so h…
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that if you could find a disgusting term or you could make a term disgusting, like Viet Cong, then because at the time, Viet Minh were heroes throughout the entire peninsula. That was a unifying factor in Vietnam at the time because everybo…
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That's what's happening in your country. That's why you guys hear me screaming all the time when somebody says something. It's the Phoenix program. It's the Phoenix program. Lansdale, which is why I'm going to take as long as it takes to ge…
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Lansdale's program was aimed at several thousand Viet Minh stay-behind agents organizing secret cells and conducting propaganda among the people. As a way of attacking these agents, Lansdale hired Freedom Company to activate Operation Broth…
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induce enemy soldiers to defect, to organize rural people into self-defense forces to insulate their villages from the dreaded Viet Cong, to create political cadres who would sell the idea that Dem, not the Viet Minh, represented national a…
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dressed in black pajamas, and went into villages to dig latrines, patch roofs, dispense medicine, and deliver propaganda composed by Lansdale. The people were expected to inform on Viet Minh guerrillas and vote for them in the 1956 unificat…
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One month later, Can Lao introduced a political front called National Revolution Movement. In 1955, knowing that the Buddhist population would vote overwhelmingly for Viet Minh in the national election, still talking the unified election, D…
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But it was easy to do because you've got the U.S. behind you to go in and assassinate everybody that won't do what you want them to do. So, Dem could literally do anything as far as dictatorship, kill people, whatever, and the U.S. was behi…
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So terror was not one of Viet Cong's tactics. According to Iran Corporation, and believe me, they do a lot of CIA work, so this is saying something. J.J. Zaloff, who worked in Vietnam, quote, origins of the insurgency in South Vietnam from …
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The military, too, had broad powers to arrest and jail suspects while on sweeps in local areas. Non-communists who could not afford to pay their taxes were jailed until the families come up with the cash. That's called extortion. Communists…
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In 1956, in the Highland area, 14,000 people were arrested without evidence or trial. The people were jailed simply for having visited a district that had been deemed having communists in it. And by the year's end, there was an estimated 20…
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the National Liberation Front, and the Liberation Army, which the South called the Viet Cong, as basically an insult to the Viet Minh who were the nationalists. So this organization had marching orders to set up six regional committees in t…
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And he wrote, quote, in over three years in Vietnam, I knew of no province party secretary ever being captured, unquote. Why were they so hard to kill? And then he says, quote, since he is the most important Viet Cong slash Viet Minh commit…
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Because that's critically important. So one of the things that you're going to notice is there's two terms that are used to describe the nationalistic efforts in Vietnam. One of them, and the original one, was Viet Minh. So you spell it V-I…
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M-I-N-H. And it wasn't enough that you have that term because if you were, and I'm going to go into this in just a second, if you look at that term and you research that, you are going to find basically not a lot of difference in…
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Someone that the U.S. was supporting like a Chiang Kai-shek because Viet Minh was a nationalistic group that simply wanted a cohesive country, a united North and South, which it was at the time. And let me go back. They wanted to unite the …
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originated in the North. And that's where you kind of get the beginning of the North versus South rhetoric. But I'm going to read to you what the Viet Minh requirements were. When they went to Paris at the end of World War II, I'm going to …
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That's a made up term. They were fighting a nationalistic group that originally was referred to as Viet Minh. OK, so let me lay out what the demands were of the Viet Minh when they went to Paris to declare themselves an independent country …
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that they did not want the French back in after having fought beside the allies, mainly the U.S., during World War II against Japan, who had basically kicked the French out and had occupied Vietnam. Anybody in their right minds looking this…
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As the terminology, someone's going to stumble across that list of demands and go, what the hell are we doing in Vietnam for then? Why wouldn't we want that for those people? Right. So let me read you a little bit about their history and wh…
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In time, it evolved into a significant political movement and a military force, strong enough to defeat the French. Viet Minh, and the United States eventually, Viet Minh was formed in the 1940s as a nationalistic group seeking Vietnamese i…
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were accustomed to simply accepting their lot and basically not questioning a political order. And Ho Chi Minh realized that that's what had got them into their colonialist occupation and wanted to change that. So he created Viet Minh, the …
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in a cave in an area called Pac Bo, P-A-C space B-O, and began preparations to grow even more body parts for the Revolutionary Force. He announced that he was creating a Vietnamese Independence League, which is where Viet Minh got its name.…
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Its whole name was Vietnam Doc Lap Dong Minh Hoi. And that is Vietnamese for Vietnam Independence League. Viet Minh for short. M-I-N-H. Ho went to great lengths to make the Viet Minh an exclusive and inclusive confederation for the entire c…
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Which is really interesting if we were to believe all the things that was written about Ho Chi Minh, why wouldn't he actually step into the leadership immediately? He didn't because it wasn't about him. In reality, the Viet Minh was steered…
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That the time had come to remove the foreign aggressors and solve their political differences together. All right. And he left them with the ability to basically kind of bridge.…
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like 75, those 10 years, you had asked an American who their country was fighting in Vietnam, and they would have said Viet Cong. It was a network of, quote-unquote, communist agents and subversives supplied and controlled by North Vietnam,…
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Under the terms of the accord, military personnel were ordered to return to their place of origin, either north or south. Many Viet Minh soldiers, however, stayed wherever they were and remained in their rural settings. Now, keep in mind, t…
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did so based on local leadership, and they viewed it as protection in their local villages from the French, and they didn't necessarily want these people to relocate if they had came from different areas. So pretty much everybody stayed whe…
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in a way that was very similar to the stay-behind-unit concept that had been adopted by the West, which is, again, another irony. So it was at this point in the late 1950s that the PSYOPs began in the local newspapers ran by the West, in wh…
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pressure to rein in the violence, the North Vietnamese government continually stressed that Southern insurgents were acting independently from the North. And by mid-1959, the North was providing support for the Viet Minh in the South. And t…
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But what I find very interesting about all of this is because we are taught the clinical definitions of that, our military knows everything that I just told you. And yet the SOBs in our military and in the CIA go right behind having taught …
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and his cadre had fought with the Viet Minh against the French, the dubious growth in popularity of the Pao Shin Lao between 54 and 58, by which time it had established a countrywide network at the village level and would be attributed to t…
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writes that on balance, participation by Viet Minh infantry, as opposed to a cadre of advisors, was very unlikely to have occurred any time before 1962.…
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In the latter years of World War II, OSS operators forged an alliance with Vietnamese nationalists, particularly the League for the Independence of Vietnam, or Viet Minh, Ho Chi Minh. In the war against Japan, and then cooperated closely wi…
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But after the war, Washington's Cold Warriors supported France's bid to regain its colony, an effort that led to war between Viet Minh and the French. Unquote. That war would end up with the French defeat at Dinh Ben Phu in 1954, with the c…
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In 1954, Edward Lansdell arrived in Vietnam on assignment for the agency. His orders were straightforward. Stop the communists. Lansdell pulled together a unit that waged paramilitary operations in political psychological warfare against th…