The Colonel's Corner Twilight of the Shadow Government #7

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0:00 Okay, guys, it's four o'clock. We're going to try to get started. If you guys can repost the space out, I'd appreciate it. And I don't know what's going on with Rumble. I'm going to go ahead and hit the go live. I tried to start this three different times. And the first three times. It shows all three up and running.

0:31 Okay, well, I closed it. So I don't know what's going on on Rumble. So it wouldn't let the video part. So I closed the space down. I went out. I redid it. I redid it. I redid it. Okay, so I decided the third time I wasn't redoing it. So I went and got a copy of the Amazon picture of the front of the book. And I was just going to leave that up because it would work on share screen.

0:57 The camera just wouldn't come on the little green lights on my Apple computer, but the camera wouldn't come on. And so I'm over here doing my stuff and getting the phone set up for the space. And I just look up and I'm like, oh, crap. There's my little picture down in the corner with the screen share on. I'm like, oh, so my camera decided to work after all.

1:25 I think it's Rumble because, again, my camera was actually working. So I'm up on Rumble and we're up over here. So we're going to go ahead and get started. We're on chapter six of the book. I'm going to try if my voice holds out. The one problem with babysitting your grandbaby, who is the son of a school teacher.

1:50 is they bring every shit thing in that goes around in school. So I've got something going on. I don't know what it is. I just took a crap load of vitamins and my little balls that you guys told me about, that Ossacilla, whatever that name of that 15-digit word is. So I think I'm going to be able to make it.

2:16 I've got cough drops here thrown out all over the table. So I think we're going to be able to make it. And after all, Colonel Towner, sharing is caring. So he's giving you so much love. Well, there is something to that because I do hug on him an awful lot. So I'm definitely not complaining. But this sucks because I went for like five years straight and was never sick a day.

2:46 What you will do for your grandkids. All right. Just want to let you guys know ahead of time, because I almost like lost it during our earlier video with Warhamster. So, all right. Chapter six, Ted Shackley. Dang, they've already kicked Bridget out. Yeah, I was just going to tell you she's been booted to listener. OK, so.

3:17 Ted Shackley from Vietnam to Tucker Carlson. Most Americans consider the Vietnam War to have begun in August of 1964 with the alleged attack on the North Vietnamese patrol boats from them to the USS Maddow in what became known as the Gulf of Tonkin incident and ending with Nixon removing the last American troops in March of 73. However,

3:45 There's much more to the story. And of course, we know that because we went over Vietnam. I think we spent almost a week on it. But I am going to use the book to put several quotes out there for you guys to know the context, because this chapter is integral to the points that he makes later on. Quote, for over two decades, the CIA and its predecessor had been on prowl in Vietnam.

4:14 In the latter years of World War II, OSS operators forged an alliance with Vietnamese nationalists, particularly the League for the Independence of Vietnam, or Viet Minh, Ho Chi Minh. In the war against Japan, and then cooperated closely with Ho Chi Minh, the Viet Minh leader and a founder of the Indo-Chinese Communist Party,

4:41 But after the war, Washington's Cold Warriors supported France's bid to regain its colony, an effort that led to war between Viet Minh and the French. Unquote. That war would end up with the French defeat at Dinh Ben Phu in 1954, with the country divided into a north and southern section, much like had happened with Korea and our involvement there.

5:10 all about divide and conquer. The American backed Diem, a Catholic bachelor living in Europe, which was probably not a good choice considering the country was overwhelmingly Buddhist, but he was controllable and that ultimately led to the reason why he was selected. But also the point that I made during our presentation on Vietnam.

5:41 is this happened often where you have educated people out in European Western countries that have been co-opted, just like Warhamster and I were talking about earlier, where they set up scholarships to bring in foreigners to these universities for the CIA to recruit and then for them to go back and be treasonous to their own country.

6:09 That basically fits the definition of what was going on with Diem. He was controlled. He was their person. And so even though they agreed to have a unified election, that was never going to happen. Another quote, quote, Washington was not counting on Diem alone. There was also the CIA.

6:34 In 1954, Edward Lansdell arrived in Vietnam on assignment for the agency. His orders were straightforward. Stop the communists. Lansdell pulled together a unit that waged paramilitary operations in political psychological warfare against the Viet Minh. A Lansdell team based in the north and ran by Lou Koenig, Shackley's former office mate at Nuremberg,

7:04 sabotage to noise buses and railroad equipment. In South Vietnam, Lansdale bribed religious and political sect leaders to support Diem. The effort in Vietnam mirrored much of the efforts in the early 60s in Cuba. American forces would openly operate inside the country. If cold warriors

7:31 Who'd lost the Cuba fight, thought it was because Castro had thrown down the Iron Curtain around their country. Vietnam would show that the Americans could do without such restraints. Now, again, when this all started going down, we've proven that Ho Chi Minh was not a communist. And he's using what I refer to as kind of lazy history.

8:01 communist label is given to these people, number one, so they can kill them. But number two, because their stranglehold on all of the political, economic and military apparatuses and sources of power isolate these people and drive them into the arms of the Soviet Union. And that's the one thing that JFK

8:30 talked a lot about wanting that to stop. He was openly trying backdoor avenues to both Castro and the Soviet Union in order for that to stop. He made speeches about the effect of we are literally, our foreign policy is literally pushing them into the arms of the Soviet Union because that's their only source of money and weaponry when we attack them. So I just want to point that out.

9:02 Okay, but despite this covert war fought for more than a decade between the United States and the North Vietnamese, American forces were eventually needed, and the first combat troops arrived on March 8, 1965, with 3,500 U.S. Marines joining the 25,000 military advisors already in the country. So we're not at war, but...

9:29 We have 25,000 military people on the ground, but we're not at war. Despite the presence of U.S. combat forces in the country, the Viet Cong were winning, especially because they had generally avoided large-scale battles and ran operations using guerrilla tactics. Quote, in 1965, the CIA station helped create the South Vietnamese Census Grievance Units.

10:00 We talked about them at length as well, that visited villages to elicit the residents' complaints and improve relations between villagers and Saigon. That's not what they were actually doing. They were collecting data that they were putting into a computer system so they knew who to come back and pick up. Another CIA program was less warm in intentions, the counterterror teams. The counterterror squads were born out of frustration.

10:32 The regular army could not do much about the guerrillas who harassed, attacked, and killed Vietnamese civilians allied with Saigon. The counterterrorism units funded, trained, and guided by CIA officers were small paramilitary groups outside the normal military chain of command. Their goal, Chief of Station Pierre de Salva wrote in his memoirs, was to bring danger and death.

11:04 The well-known CIA adage, plausible deniability, springs to mind when considering the Phoenix program. Yeah, sure, the CIA funded, trained, and guided the Phoenix effort. But when things went really bad, well, like killing the wrong person or having suspects regularly die during interrogations, they couldn't really blame the CIA because they would say that it was these cells.

11:32 but it was the CIA creating the cells. You know, kind of like they do with domestic terror events under Operation Gladio. They use someone else so they have plausible deniability. After all, it was supposed to be the South Vietnamese who were really in charge of the program. Quote, in the name of efficiency, the agency in 1967 established an outfit to coordinate all intelligence on the Viet Cong and gave birth to what would become

12:00 one of the most notorious CIA ventures of the war, the Phoenix program. Under Phoenix, field representatives of different U.S. and South Vietnamese agencies swapped intelligence and decided how to best exploit the material that they got during those surveys. Exploitation meant capturing or killing suspected Viet Cong leaders and anybody that they suspected of sympathizing with them.

12:31 ambushing couriers, suppliers, and attacking strongholds. The intent of Phoenix was to develop lists of Viet Cong cadre and a solid picture of their network. So the CIA-backed PRUs and other forces were there and they would know who to hit. The program most CIA veterans have claimed was not set up as an assassination unit, but that's basically a lie.

13:02 The CIA's best defense? It was not set up an assassination unit, even though that's what it quickly became. In December 1968, Shackley took over as chief of CIA station in Saigon, and it was under his tenure the worst of the Phoenix program atrocities would take place. In The Blonde Ghost, this is how author David Korn described it, quote, befitting his position as the top U.S. spook in the hottest spot on the globe.

13:32 Shackley struck an imperial manner. He drove through the crowded streets of Saigon in a large chauffeur-driven, armored, plated American car. The floors were still enforced to protect against mines. A security guard sat in the front seat with a shotgun. Bodyguards were always close by. He carried a .45 in his briefcase. There were talk among the junior officers that his briefcase contained steel plates.

14:00 In the event of any trouble, he would flip it open and duck his head inside. Unquote. It had been 16 years since Shackley had first joined the agency from being humiliated by the Soviets with the fantasy of a rebel Polish army losing and then losing to Castro while heading up the Miami station. Two years heading up the Laos CIA mission and guiding American bombers on targets to Ho Chi Minh's trail.

14:29 He was finally on top. Thousands of miles away from politicians, Shackley could exercise his will on the world's largest state. Quote, Shackley desired complete control of the 600-person station. He insisted that the base chiefs send reports to Washington through his office. He closely watched the finances. There was a constant stream of personnel problems, an alcoholic officer who wrapped his car around a tree, a pregnant secretary.

14:59 On some days, Shackley would race off to a meeting at the presidential palace. Once the Nixon administration settled in, Henry Kissinger was always on Shackley's back. Shackley briefed members of Congress, Vice President Spiro Agnew, and foreign dignitaries, unquote. Excuse me. Shackley was in charge of the largest U.S. intelligence presence of any foreign country.

15:28 in the nation's largest battle. Shackley knew how to play this game. Shackley struck, oh, this is another quote. Shackley struck up friendships with small numbers of journalists, the older Asian hands who were mostly sympathetic with Washington's aim in Indochina. The core group of these included Robert Chaplin of the New York Times, Keith Beach of the Daily.

15:59 Chicago Daily News, and later the LA Times and the U.S. News and World Report. Shackley had little time for the young Turks of the press corps who reported the war with a mistrust previously unknown to mainstream American media. The chief became a guardian source for the believers, but totally off the record. If one of the gang needed to file a story on the latest strategy indications out of Hanoi,

16:29 Shackley graciously arranged for a briefing from one of his station officers. Once you realize that since the beginning, the CIA has always focused on deceiving the American public, it's also a sign of their fragility. The CIA needs the American people to believe their lies. The people do hold the power, which is why the CIA has invested so much time in manipulating the perceptions of citizens and politicians.

16:58 Because as such, the CIA's version of the truth may hold sway for a while. Over time, the ultimate truth does appear. Castro was more trusted by the Cuban people than the leaders who had come before him. The Vietnamese were tired of being ruled by the French or the Americans and wanted all foreigners gone. The Phoenix program was an assassination program. Much of the truth about it eventually was reported, even in the Times.

17:27 a younger generation of reporters who for a while broke free of the confines of the national security state. This is how it was described in February 1970 as the program grabbed the attention of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Quote, designed by the U.S. CIA to weed out an estimated 75,000 Viet Cong political leaders and agents from the civilian population. The program is not the sinister cloak and dagger.

17:56 terror operation that some critics, including the Viet Cong, had portrayed it to be, these officials insisted. That's nonsense, one of them said. Phoenix is just not a killing organization. The kind of things they, the Foreign Relations Committee members, are probably looking for are not happening that much. That much. I don't know what they would consider much, but whatever. Which is not to say that they were not happening at all.

18:26 Briefly, Phoenix works this way. When local officials feel they have enough evidence against a person suspected of being connected to the Viet Cong, they arrest him. If he's not released quickly, suspects often vanished out of back doors of police stations within two hours of their arrest. He was taken to a province interrogation center, unquote. When I read this account, I'm amazed at the restraint.

18:56 He clearly raises the suspicions felt by members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, but he also is letting the CIA give their version of events with the important facts, which will hopefully let you decide which they're supposed to tell you the facts. Another quote, in the course of the normal military operations, some suspected Viet Cong agents may defect or be killed or captured.

19:25 When reports of these operations filtered back to the Phoenix district headquarters, officials simply called out the numbers and add them to their scores. You know, because they were actually reporting numbers. This helps them meet their quota set by the higher headquarters, like in quotas of deaths. One thing about the Vietnamese, they will meet every quota that's established for them, one critic said. That's what makes the headcount so deceptive.

19:54 How do you know they're not assigning names and titles to dead bodies? In 1969, according to official figures, 19,534 Viet Cong were neutralized, meaning assassinated. That number included 8,515 reportedly captured, 6,187 killed, and 4,832 who defected, unquote.

20:23 Now we have an understanding about the size of the problem. According to the CIA's own numbers in 69, just a little under 20,000 Vietnamese found themselves in the hands of the Phoenix program, and just a little over 6,000 died as a result for a daily death rate of 17 people a day. But the numbers are not trustworthy. The program was supposed to look successful.

20:52 there was a concern that if the numbers of dead were too high, it might look like a killing organization. The article went on, quote, probably the most controversial arm of the Phoenix program in each province is a group called the Provincial Reconnaissance Unit, the PRU. It consists of a dozen or more South Vietnamese mercenaries, originally recruited and paid handsomely by the CIA to serve under the province chief as a major action arm of the program.

21:21 According to Americans working at both the local and regional levels, these units are made up of local hoodlums, soldiers of fortune, draft dodgers, defectors, and others who received $15,000 of their denomination a month compared with $4,000 paid to a common soldier.

21:43 to conduct raids after Viet Cong agents ambush their trails and their meeting places and simply arrest them under the direction of the South Vietnamese officers who takes orders from the province chief, unquote. Without even asking a question of the psychological makeup of the people involved in the program, there are significant problems involved with the very makeup. Relatively high salaries means that you would have covered, you would have,

22:11 This would have been a covered job to the South Vietnamese. As a consequence, those involved would be highly motivated to please their superiors, namely the South Vietnamese government and the CIA. And I'm glad that he acknowledges that they were using, because they keep calling it the South Vietnamese. But if you guys remember, Lansdell brought scores of Filipino mercenaries.

22:39 We sent Cuban exiles over there to do this. This was not something that was organic to South Vietnamese people. And keep in mind, we also discovered that the CIA, using the Catholic Church, since it's in the headlines, had basically psychological warfare on Catholics in the North and deported them all down.

23:09 to the South using psychological operations. Over a million Vietnamese Catholics was forcibly relocated to the South so they could make the numbers look more like a legitimate Catholic presence in South Vietnamese to justify appointing Diem as the president. They then used those same people as their sentries into these newly established

23:40 compounds because they basically burnt down entire villages and created new huts surrounded by moats so that people had to check in and out, kind of like the early version of a smart city. And they used a computer system to track the movements of everybody so that they could then use that data to design their quote-unquote suspect list.

24:09 Were there any incentives in this program to protect the rights of those who may have been falsely accused? Absolutely not. As the hearings before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee into the Phoenix program continued, many senators were confused by the testimony, as was the public. The New York Times published another story about the growing controversy. Quote, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee may have been confused by last week's testimony on Operation Phoenix.

24:39 The committee had a report from the American military command in Saigon that seemed to give Phoenix the credit for hunting down and killing 6,187 Viet Cong political cadre last year. Then it heard William Colby, the pacification chief in Vietnam, emphatically deny that the Phoenix program was an assassination program, unquote.

25:08 The question might be, when is an assassination program not an assassination program? Do words change the reality of the situation? You cannot deny that it was an assassination program. Another quote, the information may lead to the neutralization of these men. The official figures state that in addition to those killed, 8,505 were captured, 4,382 persuaded to defect.

25:38 in 1969, is then passed on to the Vietnamese officials who can call any one of their several shadowy specialist organizations for action. These included the Provincial Reconnaissance Units, the PRUs, armed propaganda teams, Kit Carson scouts, and SEAL commando teams operating in small units, generally 6 to 12 men. They quietly penetrated

26:08 into contested Viet Cong-controlled territory to carry out their missions. And despite whatever denials are being made now in Washington and Saigon, their mission was to get their men dead or alive, unquote. If you wanted somebody to be killed in Vietnam or neutralized, since they didn't like the word assassination, there was many shadowy groups that you could call for help. By July of 71, the Phoenix program had become such a...

26:39 subject of controversy that William Colby, the former head of the pacification program in Vietnam, appeared before the House Foreign Operations and Government Information Subcommittee to discuss the problems. Again, a New York Times article, quote, in prepared testimony, Mr. Colby, who recently returned from his assignment in Saigon, gave the number of people killed under Phoenix program since 68 as 20,587.

27:07 of whom 3,560 were killed from January to May of this year. For earlier periods, the number of deaths were put at 2,559 for 1968 and 6,187 for 69, and then 8,191 for last year. Two Republican representatives, Ogden Reed of Westchester and Paul McCloskey of California.

27:37 charged that Operation Phoenix had been responsible for indiscriminate killings of civilians and the imprisonment of thousands of others in violation of international courts in legal actions in wartime. The CIA admitted that this program in Vietnam killed more than 20,000 people. They also said that many of these victims may have had no role in the Viet Cong at all.

28:06 When 3,000 of our citizens were killed on September 11, 2001, we initiated a worldwide global war that has lasted over 20 years. But here we are in a foreign country doing significantly more damage for apparently no reason. And he goes on to point out that when he wrote this book in 2024, we had admitted to having special forces on the ground in Syria.

28:38 And I'm convinced we also have similar forces, including CIA, on the ground in Ukraine, and he would be absolutely right. In 1990, the well-known political commentator Morley Safer wrote a review for a book about the Phoenix program by Douglas Valentine. And Doug Valentine's book is the book we use to talk about the Phoenix program, just as a reminder, which was published in the New York Times.

29:06 After first describing the Phoenix program as an unseemly liaison between impotent military tactics and money log technology, as well as a monster child with its computer brain and assassin's instinct. That's how Valentine described the program. Quote, so out into the countryside went teams of accountants and case officers, Vietnamese assassins.

29:35 and their American counterparts with bags and bags of money. The whole effort tethered to a computer in the U.S. Embassy in Saigon. And from the embassy came reports again and again that the program was working. Body counts were up. The Phoenix program became a playground for the demented fringes of both American and Vietnamese society. It was a brothel for both blood lust and printout lust.

30:03 featuring a weird crew of characters, grizzled army officers, bespeckled accountants, and bloodless computer modelers. It had its own Air Force training camps, interrogation centers, torture chambers, if you like. Unquote. So, then he goes on to say, when during the Afghan war, there was a suggestion made to create a Phoenix-type force in Afghanistan, a professor of history from...

30:33 Tulsa University, an author of a book about drug use in Vietnam, penned a remarkable opinion piece, and I'm going to quote from that. The most disturbing aspect was its inordinately high human cost. A Phoenix advisor commented, it was common knowledge that when someone was picked up, their lives were about to end because the Americans most likely felt that if you were to turn someone like that back into the countryside.

31:03 It would be like multiplying the followers of the Viet Cong. You know, like pushing them into the enemy's hand, which seems to be a routine thing here. In one publicized case, a detainee was kept in an air-conditioned room for four years to try to exploit his fear of the cold. His remains were later dumped at sea. Kay Barron Osborne, a military intelligence specialist, told Congress.

31:29 that he had witnessed acts of torture, including the prodding of a person's brain with a six-inch dowel through his ear, and that in a year and a half with Phoenix, not a single suspect survived interrogation. After being called before Congress to account for his actions, CIA Director William Colby conceded the Phoenix program had led to the death of over 20,000 civilians. The South Vietnamese government placed a total

31:58 at over 40,000. But ask the average American about the 20,000 or 40,000 Vietnamese killed by the CIA Phoenix program, and you're likely to get a blank stare. Even in the book Legacies of Ashes, Tim Weiner, about the CIA, said there were only two mentions of the Phoenix program in a book that was dedicated to the CIA.

32:28 The first comes as a Vietnam War is winding down and there's a question of how to get some of the Vietnamese members of the Phoenix program out of Vietnam. Now, this is critical. The second mention is how the Phoenix program was business as usual for this DIA. And I want to make this point about this because this happens every fucking time. Our CIA went into Vietnam.

32:57 They have drug in the dregs of society from all over Asia to include people from the United States as hired mercenaries. And they've turned local people into trained assassins. And their number one priority is how to get those trained assassins back into the United States. Does that ring a bell? Isn't that exactly what we did with Afghanistan?

33:27 Isn't that exactly what we do every single place? We did it in Iraq. We did it in Latin America. We train people to kill people and then we bring them into the United States and pay them to live next door to you. They are trained assassins. That to me is the point that no one ever makes in this whole story. It's absolutely crazy.

33:58 That the CIA has done this for the last 70 plus years and not a single word gets said about it. So it goes on to say the Phoenix program is thus seen not as an aberration, but as an example of the way the CIA works. Shackley left Vietnam in 1972. His tenure coincided with the worst excessive of the Phoenix program.

34:28 This was a quote from his book. Jack Lee returned to Washington from Saigon in February of 72. He had not been stationed in headquarters since 61. He'd been out killing people for 11 years. In the intervening years, secrets had been revealed, and the agency's image had begun to tarnish. In 64, Random House published the first significant expose of the agency called The Invisible Government.

34:57 It was written by Washington journalists Tom Ross and David Wise. The book spilled details of the botched-to-be-a-pig invasion. It offered the first authoritative account of CIA-backed coups in both Iran and Guatemala. And yes, I have this book. Ross and Wise suggested that the national security state had gone too far and that policymakers had become too reliant on quick fixes for covert operations.

35:28 It's remarkable how contemporary 1964 seems in comparison to 2024. 60 years later, we're still talking about how the CIA and the national security state has too much power, but never anything is ever done. Another quote. Three years later, in 67, a series of articles in Rampart magazine revealed the CIA's secret support of National Student Association. Now, I've covered this ad nauseum.

35:59 This is the domestic version. Proving that Shackley's colleagues were meddling in domestic affairs. Similar revelations followed in other media outlets, including the New York Times, which disclosed CIA connections with, oh my gosh, corporations, trust, research centers, universities, and individuals.

36:25 Some members of Congress grumbled that the CIA needed to be reined in, but the bastards aren't going to do it. Shackley had once dreamed of becoming the CIA director, but as the agency went under greater scrutiny, his chances were vanished. Eventually, in 79, he would be driven from the agency. And again, that was thanks to Jimmy Carter and Stanfield Turner.

36:54 Shackley always liked to be at the center of world events and would eventually find his way back in in a manner certain to cause enormous mayhem. And then he goes in and he talks about the Jimmy Carter, how him and Stanford Turner turned the agency upside down by firing all those people.

37:19 There's a couple of quotes here. I don't want to read as much of this part because we've already covered this a lot. But there is a quote here that says Stanford Turner, who had taken over the director of CIA only five weeks earlier, could barely believe what he read. A story by Bob Woodward reported that the past CIA officer, Edwin Wilson, who, again, we've talked about a lot, had procured timing devices for a car bomb.

37:50 murder of Orlando Lettier, the former Chilean ambassador in the U.S. In September 1976, the ex-patriot Lettier, an assistant, an American citizen, had been killed while driving along Massachusetts Avenue in Washington. The ex-CIA man, according to Woodward, also plotted the agency-trained exile graduates of the Miami station, Shackley's guys, to assassinate an opponent.

38:18 of the Libyan President Omar Gaddafi. Now, what I find most fascinating about this particular article is they're blaming Edwin Wilson. Edwin Wilson is the guy they frame for trafficking weapons to Gaddafi and throw him in jail for decades when they decided to get rid of him. So Bob Woodward, again, part of the CIA's Mockingbird Media, outs Edwin Wilson.

38:46 as the guy responsible for Latier's bombing, when in fact, the people that were actually convicted of it was CIA operatives under Ted Shackley, trained by Ted Shackley, that were part of the exile Cuban brigade. So, America was getting sick of its government. They were overthrowing foreign governments, engaging in war crimes like the Phoenix Program, and deceiving the public along the way.

39:15 It was also revealed, of course, during that time that Project Mockingbird actually was a thing and that they had been experimenting on Americans through MKUltra. Now the CIA apparently stood guilty of murdering foreign diplomats in downtown D.C., along with an American citizen. So it then talks about how all of this implicated Tom Klein's.

39:46 and Ted Shackley. Those are the two guys that set up Edwin Wilson later on. In 1977, Shackley had come to the attention of the new director. It might be shocking for the average person to realize that association with a known assassin won't get you fired from the CIA. Of course it won't because they create them. It will simply stop your upward career, which is where Shackley found himself in 77.

40:15 In fact, the previous CIA director had been a strong supporter of Shackley's and would eventually become vice president and later president, George H.W. Bush, where he would bring Shackley in to troubleshoot the tricky operations that they were setting up as part of Iran-Contra, which makes perfect sense because George H.W. Bush's vice president's number three guy for the Iran-Contra was Felix Rodriguez.

40:44 who was a student of Ted Shackley and a member of the Brigade 2506, which was part of the Cuban exiles. And it was Felix Rodriguez that went to work for Shackley over in Vietnam. It was Felix Rodriguez that went down to Latin America and did all of the chaos down there, too. Or at least he was part of the chaos down there. So, again, this is all stuff that we've covered. So I did want.

41:14 Read this. An FBI memo that was released in 1988, but it's dated November 22nd, 1963. At 1.45, George H.W. Bush, president of Zapata Offshore Oil Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, and it lists his residence, telephonically furnished the following information to

41:42 writer by long-distance phone call from Tyler, Texas. This is the alleged alibi. Bush stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent weeks the day and source unknown. He stated that James Parrott had been talking of killing the president when he comes to Houston. Bush stated that Parrott

42:09 is apparently a student of the University of Houston and is actively in political matters in this area. He stated that he felt Mrs. Folley, telephone number blah blah blah, or Arlene Smith, telephone number blah blah blah, of the Harris County Republican headquarters would be able to furnish additional information on Parrott. Bush stated that he was proceeding to Dallas, Texas.

42:36 would remain at the Sheraton Dallas Hotel and return to his residence the next day and then left his phone number. Now, that's infamously known as the alibi phone call. There's no verification that he was actually in Tyler when he made that phone call. It definitely puts him in Texas. And it definitely puts him in throwing shade to the CIA by fingering somebody else.

43:03 A couple of things are notable about the FBI memo. Bush identifies his location at the time of the assassination as being Tyler, rather than Dallas. And what's remarkable is that in the immediate aftermath of the assassination, he calls the FBI to provide them with the name of a suspect, but years later can't recall anything about where he was at. Another important FBI document, actually released in the 70s but not read until the 80s,

43:33 from November 29, 1963, comes directly from the office of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, and addresses Bush's role with the agency. The revelation was covered in July 11, 1998's article in the New York Times, just as the presidential race, with Bush running as a Republican nominee, and Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis running for Democrats, was entering its final stages.

44:01 just before the November election. Quote, The Nation magazine, in its current issue, quotes a memo from November 29, 1963, from J. Edgar Hoover, the Bureau's director at the time, to State Department about the assassination of JFK. In the memo, according to the magazine, Mr. Hoover stated that the Bureau had briefed Mr. George Bush of the CIA. Let me read that again. This is a quote from the memo.

44:31 Mr. George Bush of the CIA, unquote. 1963. On the reaction of Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination, the magazine article written by Joseph McBride also quoted an unidentified source with close connections to the intelligence community as saying Mr. Bush, quote, started working for the agency in 1960 or 61, using his oil business as a cover.

45:02 for clandestine activity, unquote. Now, just in case you guys didn't hear that section of stuff that we've covered before, Zapata Oil had bought some of the Mexican state-owned oil platforms. Those oil platforms was put out into the Gulf and the CIA actually brought their paramilitary assassin.

45:32 trainees to these platforms and trained them there. They were using George Bush's oil company and the purchase of mobile drilling platforms to train terrorists on in the Gulf of Mexico. So going on, they talk about articles.

46:02 One such article was written by a guy by the name of Stephen Hager, H-A-G-E-R, and he had done a lot of research into the Kennedy assassination and the CIA's role in it. This is a quote from him. I guess you know Daily Plaza was flooded with spooks 50 years ago. One young spook at the scene may have been George H.W. Bush, who was working deep cover for the CIA through his...

46:30 fledgling oil companies, APATA, building platforms in the Gulf of Mexico. Some of those were designed as resupply depots for anti-Castro networks operating out of Miami. The Miami CIA office had become the biggest in the world outside of Langley, and they had been training an army of refugees to retake Cuba from the commies. Check out the picture of someone who looks just like Bush in front of this.

47:00 Texas School Book Depository. By the way, Bush says he can't remember where he was when JFK was murdered, despite several FBI memos relating his interest in the case. Also, if that isn't Bush standing on the steps of the depository, whoever it is has never come forward to clear Bush from any involvement. Zapata Oil, by the way, the name Zapata, if you look at Cuba, there's a Zapata Bay.

47:31 At the time all of this was going on, there were preliminary indications that that was one of the largest oil fields in the Gulf. And people believe that Bush set up Zapata Oil, believing that they were going to get back into Cuba in order to strike that claim as part of Zapata Oil. And then Zapata Oil would look like it was indigenous to the Cuban country.

47:59 um so people would not ask questions okay and then he goes on and talks a little bit more about that most of this stuff um we've covered before but i'm going to quote this part for war hamster this came a later article that in the nation after the death of george hw bush in 2018 suggested how bush might have been recruited into the cia as an undergraduate

48:31 in much the same way Buzzy Crongard had in the 1950s. According to Phillips, the author of a book about the Bush family, from Yale's class of 1943 alone, at least 42 young men entered the intelligence services. 42 men into the intelligence agency from one class.

49:02 player involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion had been in Yale's secret skull and bone society by the time Bush became director of the CIA in 76. Phillips writes, three generations of Bush and Walker families already had some six decades of intelligence-related activity and experience under their belts, which apparently also involved a Mexico CIA money line.

49:32 that made its way into the hands of Watergate burglars. And that has to do with that Mirax, the company that Bush was in business with in Mexico. Then it goes on to talk about from Cuba to Vietnam to Iran-Contra scandal, all of them had a Ted Shackley involvement. Quote,

50:02 Obituaries have transformed the terror that Bush inflicted as head of the CIA, as Ronald Reagan's vice president, and as president on the poor countries, depicting it as heroism. The invasion of Panama is given scant notice, and the first Gulf War is judged as being just. But Bush helmed the CIA when it was working closely with Latin American death squads.

50:30 grouped under Operation Condor, naming Ted Shackley, implicated in terror operations in Southeast Asia and Latin America, including the Vietnam's Phoenix program and the 73 coup against Chile's Salvador Allende, the agency's powerful associate deputy director of operations. Bush gave the go-ahead to the neoconservative.

51:01 Team B project founded on the idea that after the U.S. debacle in Vietnam, the agency had become too soft on third world nationalism, politicizing intelligence. Team B provided the justification for Reagan's escalation of the Cold War, including the various operations that made up Iran-Contra. So if you were to put.

51:29 If you put George H.W. Bush as working in the CIA from 60 to 61, becoming its director in 75, then sliding into the Reagan ticket in 80, nearly becoming president in March of 81 because of the assassination attempt by John Hinckley, who was the son of a good friend of Bush's, serving as Reagan's loyal vice president, becoming president on his own in 88.

52:01 then having his son become president in 2000, and then we immediately have 9-11, which would all launch a revival of the CIA. In retrospect, it's interesting to go back to McBride's 1988 article in The Nation on the discovery of Bush's earlier alleged role in the CIA. Vice President Bush's autobiography called Looking Forward.

52:32 is vague to the point of being cryptic about his activities in the early 60s when he was running the Houston-based Zapata offshore company. Running an offshore oil company, he writes, would mean days spent on or over the water, not only the Gulf of Mexico, but oceans and seas all over the world. But the 1972 profile of Bush in the current biography

52:59 provides more details of his itinerary over those years. And according to Nicholas King's George Bush, a biography book, Zapata was concentrating in business in the Caribbean and off South America in the early 1960s, a piece of information that meshes neatly with the available data of Bush's early CIA responsibilities. While Bush earlier alleged ties in the CIA,

53:28 were undiscussed in the 70s. There are many who question Ford's choice of Bush to head up the agency. Prime among them was Senator Frank Church, who delved deeply into the misdeeds of the CIA. And then, of course, we know about the revelations that came out of the High Commission, Senator Church's committee.

53:56 If one is keeping track of the darker narrative of American history, it might look something like this. Kennedy wants to find a way to coexist with the Soviet Union in Cuba, and after some significant mistakes, finds his footing. He is also looking to keep the U.S. from getting deeply involved in Vietnam. Kennedy gets assassinated. Johnson takes over and reverses every single Kennedy foreign policy.

54:26 Nixon gets into the presidency, appearing to be a hardliner, but he is also interested in detente with the communist world. Close to his goal, after meeting with Chairman Mao of China and the Soviet leader Brezhnev, Nixon was forced to resign because of a CIA-instigated Watergate scandal.

54:52 Before he resigned, Nixon chose Gerald Ford, a congressman and former member of the Warren Commission, to be his vice president. It appears that little was being left to chance by the shadow government. A former opponent of Bush in 1964's election to U.S. Senate, Ralph Yarborough was asked in 1988 about his thoughts.

55:22 is they picked him for director of the CIA. How in the hell was he appointed the head of the CIA without any experience or knowledge? Hoover's memo explains something to me that I've always wondered about. It does make sense to have a trained CIA man with experience appointed to the job. Bush's appointment to the agency director in 1975 was widely criticized because, as McBride writes,

55:50 Bill Colby, a professional in the intelligence field, was being replaced by a non-professional outsider and a politician to boot. Senator Church commented, it appears that as though the White House may be using this important post merely as a grooming room before he was brought on stage to be the vice president running mate. Unquote. Well, that was not true because he was a seasoned CIA.

56:19 agent by that time. So all of these things now being revealed during this time made the American people more suspect, but you could not count, as we have learned, on Congress to do anything about it. George H.W. Bush was being put forward as CIA as part of an intelligence agency plan to then take the White House.

56:51 So it says in reviewing the intersection of Bush and Ted Shackley, while Bush was head of the CIA in 75 and 76, we see a genesis of a later action in the Bush administration, namely the 1989 invasion of Panama and the deposing of Manuel Noriega. Quote, Bush won significant increases in the budget for spy satellites and signal intercepts. He tried to turn off the spigot of disclosures.

57:20 When the DIA discovered that Manuel Noriega had purchased intelligence information from three U.S. Army non-commissioned officers in Panama, Bush elected not to prosecute the Americans. Doing so would expose sources and the embarrassing fact that the CIA asset was spying on his patrons. CIA people generally were glad to see Bush in charge, as Tom Clines puts it.

57:49 Bush didn't say no to anything, unquote. So we all know now that Noriega was taken out because he was trying to get the dirt on the CIA because he was starting to make his own drug deals. He became the competition and had to be eliminated. Okay, just going through here. Most of this other stuff we know all about.

58:24 I think that gets us up to a good stopping point. We're not done with the chapter, but it is a good stopping point. So that's a lot of material. Southern, go ahead. Yeah, my favorite, George Walker Bush. Shackley, they set up Zapata because they wanted their oil rigs. They used the oil rigs to listen in to Cuba.

58:59 Actually, they used Swan Island for that as well. The oil rigs were primarily used as resupply points that could not be observed and to train assassins on. And to coordinate global narcotics. Well, that's what all of these people were used for.

59:24 Yeah. Now, I've never heard of this program, but I knew there was an assassination program in the CIA. Z-R-R, like rifle. Z-R-R. Yeah, we talked about it. Okay. I must have missed that space. But when they went into Zapata, because there were concerns by a senator.

59:50 Mysteriously, the records from 60 to 66 were gone. They had accidentally been burned or something. So they could never get records on Bush. Bush was working under Richard Hams and with Ted Shackley all during that time framework. Another tie is Paul Halliwell. The drug neck was via Air America, of course, working with the Golden Triangle.

1:00:16 with Vang Pao that we talked about before, but George Walker Bush has been involved in the assassination program. He has been all across, and he would say he never formally was there. The reason he left the Zapata oil is when he ran and became congressman in 1967.

1:00:44 He was quoted that he was going to be the president of the United States in the future. He was being set up to do that. They kept everything around him very quiet. But he, I can't remember which president was caught on recording. Oh, no, George Walker Bush, he loves secret societies. He loves all that intrigue. He loves all that stuff. So just so that you know, Southern.

1:01:10 ZR Rifle is the actual name of the stuff we were just talking about yesterday or the day before. So you have heard about it. It's the William Harvey, when we were talking about him and Sam G. O'Connor and Santo Trapacondi and Roseli. That is the assassination program. It's called ZR Rifle. We just covered that. Oh, my gosh. And there was something else I wanted to ask a question about. It was an assassination program.

1:01:40 designed to take Castro out. It wasn't just a generic vaccination program. It was specifically the operation to take Castro out. Right. But my question is, they kept Bush under wraps everywhere on documentation, everything. It's pretty amazing because he's the hardest to get information about.

1:02:09 Like you, you've been connecting the dots and pulling it through so that we can put it in a timeline and see the different sectors and where he was. That's the same with William Pauly. I would tell you not a single person that listens to me had ever heard the name William Pauly. No, I never heard the name. And he was in the CIA. He then goes into several countries as ambassador during coups.

1:02:37 He owns all of this shit. He owned all of that crap in Cuba. He owned the Curtis aircraft franchise for Chiang Kai-shek. He was responsible for the Flying Tigers, the finance part of it, which turns into Air America. Yeah, there's lots of these people that you've never heard of. I have a question. The time between when...

1:03:04 JFK was assassinated, and supposedly the call from George Walker, H.W. Bush, that he had a suspect in mind. Because I looked up the time difference and what it would have taken to drive, because Tyler, Texas has grown immensely. It's like a massive, looks like a big suburb outside of Dallas, the way it's grown forward to Dallas.

1:03:28 I wanted to know how long it would take to get from where he was assassinated to where Bush was. It's like two hours and 15 minutes. If he did something, got involved, let's just say two hours and 30 minutes because things were chaotic. But he would have been able to get out of there. My question is, what was his purpose there if he was? Well, being there at Daly Square, you mean? Yes.

1:03:57 Well, a lot of these people have multiple roles. So in these operations, they don't leave anything to chance. And so he would have been there. Number one, they want to be they want to watch it. That's how sadistic they are. Yeah, that's the sick part. Yeah. So the but he would have had an assigned role as well. So if somebody goes down.

1:04:27 If somebody gets caught, somebody, you know, whatever, they have like four different options to plans. Because once you take a shot at the president, you can't afford for that not to be taken care of. So he had a role. We probably will never find out what that role is, but he definitely had a role. Yeah, because I can remember when his son ran, they found a lot of stuff that.

1:04:56 Bush Jr. had lied about, but they went in and covered it up so quickly. It just, and all of a sudden all the documents were gone, so there's a pattern of what he does. Documents are gone. But, you know, and then all his activity in helping secure in the Golden Triangle to sell heroin to Vietnam are soldiers. This man is so corrupt.

1:05:25 I just, you know, it's just stunning to really see who our presidents were, what kind of people they were. And they were supposed to be the best of the best, the best educated, the best this, the best that. You've had an expectation they went into public service because they were good people. Not true at all. Not true at all. Correct. Ron, go ahead. You know what? A couple of things. Talking about how sadistic these.

1:05:54 bastards are and wanting to watch their handiwork. A lot of people may not realize that Klaus Schwab was in New York City on the morning of September the 11th. A lot of people don't know that. But in talking about George H.W. Bush, I find it interesting that he's probably the only person on the planet who doesn't know where he was on the day Kennedy was shot.

1:06:23 I find that very, very. Yeah, exactly. And you have to assume back then it would have been very easy. Ron, you're going in and out. I thought you had stopped talking. You know what? I'm driving in the middle of the desert. I'm sorry. That's okay. Go ahead with your thought. You're coming in now.

1:06:54 I'm going to pull over and stop here real quick, just so that I'm stable. All right, I'll come back to you. Are you stopping? I'm stopping. I'm stopped. Can you hear me? Can you hear me clearly? Okay. Yeah, I can hear you fine. I can hear you fine. Okay, good. Perfect. Okay.

1:07:13 When he was a pilot in World War II, he flew the TBF, and he had three planes shot out from under him, and every plane that he had was named Barbara. Barbara I, the first one was Barbara, the second one was Barbara II, the third one was Barbara III. Well, one of the landing craft...

1:07:32 and the Bay of Pigs was the Barbara J. Now Barbara, his wife Barbara, did not have a middle name. It was just Barbara Bush or Barbara Pierce, but they often referred to her as Barbara J. to differentiate her from another Barbara Bush who was like a niece or something like that. So I find that extraordinarily, I mean, that just shows you the lack of...

1:07:59 creativity that that guy had. So there's no doubt in my mind that he was involved in Bay of Pigs. But anyway, I just wanted to get a couple of those points out. Okay. So back to Southern's point, I wanted to reiterate, there was a phone call made. He knows how the FBI works. He's in the CIA. So he knows that there's going to be a piece of paper generated that he made the phone call.

1:08:27 He made the phone call at 145. JFK was shot at 115. So he's trying to establish an alibi, which any intelligence agent would, that he was in Tyler, Texas. That doesn't mean he was. Back then, making a phone call in 1963, there was no tracing of...

1:08:49 telephone calls. There was no caller ID where they would have said, oh, you're in the wrong area or hey, you're calling from this number and that's not the number in Tyler, Texas. That's a number somewhere else. None of that stuff is recorded. So he was clearly establishing an alibi that based on the timing was in the immediate aftermath of the assassination. And that's all it was. That doesn't mean he was ever in Tyler, Texas.

1:09:17 In the hours before or the hours after that was just what he said to get it put on a piece of paper. So later on when someone dug up the shit, um, he was covered. Um, Dante, go ahead and then we'll go to all along. No, it's an interesting story. Um, yeah, Bill Colby, that's the guy nobody's ever talked about, but I just, um,

1:09:46 I put it down there in the pill, but Albert Jenner is probably the one guy no one's really talked much about out of Chicago. So he is – he was like – What's his name? Dante, what's his name again? Albert Jenner. Yeah, I've heard of him. Go ahead. So he was – him and a guy named Eli were one of two people who were actually tasked –

1:10:17 to investigate Lee Harvey Oswald. So he was on, Albert Jenner was out of Chicago. He was on the board at General Dynamics, and he was a longtime lawyer for the Crown family, right? Okay, go ahead. And he was the guy who was, him and this other dude were actually the two tasked by the Warren Commission.

1:10:44 To investigate Oswald, everything we know about Lee Harvey Oswald, to include the interviews that were conducted of Moore and Schilt, these were all done by Albert Jenner, who was basically the guy who did the Crown family's bidding. He was also the guy who recommended impeachment of Nixon because they brought him in to do the Watergate investigation as well.

1:11:14 So he was kind of like just, you know, whenever the rhinos wanted something done, they would call him in. But he was like vehemently anti-Kennedy. But I just found it was weird. Like all of it pretty much ties back into, you know, the Chicago outfit. You know, even Saul Linsky was good friends with Frank Nitti. So it's pretty.

1:11:43 Pretty interesting stuff. I just wanted to bring up Jenner and Harkin Energy as well. I'm not sure if you guys have talked about that. Bradford Freeman, George Bush, and Solomon Bin Laden all on the board of the same company, same oil company. Yeah, that's not suspicious at all. And the whole money, how that company never made money and it was always having to get.

1:12:12 My my original thing that I wrote, my original book that I ever put pen to paper was House of Sod, House of Bush or House of Bush, House of Sod, whatever it is. It's on my sub stack. It was literally the first thing I posted other than like, you know, hey, here's who I am. The entire energy oil to me, all of it seems like an entire cover story.

1:12:41 When you look at that family had no ties to Texas. You know, they're a Northeast family. And all of a sudden, this guy picks up and moves to Texas. And as Warhamster always points out, the Cowboys and the Blue Bloods of the Northeast, the Cowboys and the Yankees, as he puts it.

1:13:11 And Bush was the liaison to the Cowboys for the Yankees. That's what I view it as. All along. Go ahead. Yeah, Colonel. First, just a quick point about spreading of knowledge, because, you know, one thing I'm interested in doing is not just like, you know, knowing this stuff, but trying to make it spread more in general society because it's the most censored.

1:13:44 history, and that's why they have a fake left to explicitly not talk about the CIA, because if they did talk about the CIA, and there's no reason they shouldn't if they care about the so-called working class, which actual leftists claim to support, but that's where they would make a difference. So the CIA made a fake left to talk about where it would never matter. But anyway, that's why I think it's important you mentioned this book, A Legacy of Ashes.

1:14:12 That's a really, really bad book. And I'm like, I'm sorry to be so dogmatic and kind of simplistic zombie sounding about it. But the reason I think it's worth so much emphasis, it's kind of like an entry level general audience book, right? That isn't a similar, you know, I think it should be contrasted with Devil's Chessboard.

1:14:36 Look, I'm not saying people don't read Legacy of Ashes. If you want to waste your life, knock yourself out. But it's just like, as far as impacting the population at an entry level, where it's like a mass entry point enter or mass entry point don't enter, and we'll just keep, and society as a whole will stay this fucked up, that people need to read The Devil's Chessboard. It's an entry level book. And that's why I think it's just general among all of us to just...

1:15:04 preach up the word if i may be a little bit of evangelical colonel uh devil's action devil's chessboard good legacy of ashes bad because it's it's the case the other point i just wanted to make is um somebody mentioned that um you know the bush and the bush in dallas part i think it was southern and um you know we all know a great book on that and i think that everyone should read it

1:15:32 is Family of Secrets by Russ Baker. And he goes into a lot of details around the story that Southern was talking about, you know, Bush in, how do you, Wesley and Taylor, and how do you get there, blah, blah, blah. And I don't mean to say blah, it's not interesting, it's very interesting, but there's an incredible number of details in that book that are just, that catch me out. And in particular, one that strikes me, just off of recall is,

1:16:02 Bush's, Barbara's letter to, I think, the wife of Ulmer. You know, this James Ulmer guy is, and they speak, talk about them being in Greece in 1950. And Greece in 1950 and 49 is a kind of, it's kind of like, in some ways, a key kind of nodal point, like Burma in World War II. There were the Burma boys, but that's a cluster that's definitely worth checking out in CIA history.

1:16:29 as far as, like, who was there and their relationships. And lastly, I just wanted to point out, I think you mentioned the journalist Joseph McBride. And he, well, one other point, sorry, I just wanted to make one more point about Baker, that he has a new book coming out. And I was briefly working with him on this book in a kind of working group he has going. And it is going under the Knoll.

1:16:58 And I can't really say anything more. But I was participating in an interview with a certain like 80 plus year old journalist for a very, very CIA friendly magazine and the friendliest. And the shit that he was saying about CIA and this journalism corporation is is just unbefucking leaveable. And also it directly pertains to how they tried to discredit Gene Hill, because Gene Hill talked about being taken.

1:17:28 You know, Jean Hill is, of course, the closest to the limo next to her. She's the woman in red closest to the limo with her friend Mary Mormon with the Polaroids process going on. And they tried to discredit her testimony by saying by pointing to a phrase she had uttered, implying that she had been somehow, quote unquote, taken underground. And they tried to make it seem like this was not so. Well, guess what? It's.

1:17:56 We're going to see some smoke under the knoll very, very shortly. That's going to blow that out of the water. And it's similar to how they do this with other witnesses. The Warren Commission, for example, one witness mentioned something about a quote, seeing a glimpse of a little tiny dog next to Jackie. And the Warren Commission, you know, in their aim to discredit testimony, which was their hobby, made her seem nuts. Well, guess what? As you know, researchers.

1:18:27 Didn't take too long. Jackie had been given a lamb chop doll based on the popular children's television series Lamb Chop. And you can see it in the photo. So the point is that the Warren Commission was constantly looking for means of discrediting. It was their job. And that's how you got to be president, as Betty Ford learned after a few bubbles. Yeah. SR-71, go.

1:18:55 Thank you, Colonel. Three points here. First of all, thank everybody for attending and here on X and Rumble. Without you all, we just appreciate all of it. I did post a link to your House of Bush, House of Saud in the pill. I also provided that link on Rumble if people want to go check it out. I see you being busy. The other thing I wanted to talk about was...

1:19:24 Bush being there in Daly Square. Now, we have pictures of that that show him physically being there. But even if he wasn't there, one would have to sit and think about the fact that, yeah, he did make a telephone call. And this was after the assassination. And when he made that telephone call and his prominence in government at that point in time, the assassination wasn't even discussed, to my knowledge.

1:19:55 Right. So that alibi just doesn't stay. I agree. So just out of the blue, within 30 minutes, he's making a phone call suggesting someone was going to assassinate JFK out of the goodness of his heart and doesn't remember exactly what time he got that information.

1:20:23 How would you not know when you got that information? Would you have not immediately reported it? No, you're going to wait to use that information to establish an alibi. Again, there's nothing about that that makes sense. I agree with you. Southern, go ahead. It's kind of dumb to be so smart and everything else he did. That was kind of a dumb mistake because supposedly he was in Tyler. Tyler didn't even know this was going on yet.

1:20:51 We have to remember we didn't live in instant access with cameras on our phone, pulling out to networks and being picked up by journalists. So that makes no sense. It's an alibi. What doesn't make sense about that? He's calling in saying he's in Tyler as an alibi. But the point of the call, I thought, was to say that he had a suspect in mind. But that's not the purpose of the call.

1:21:22 Why else would you call the local FBI? You have to have something of a national security threat in order to pick up the phone and call the FBI. The whole purpose of the call was to establish an alibi.

1:21:44 within 30 minutes of the shooting that because of you as you pointed out it's a two hour two and a half hour drive that would say i was in tyler i could not have possibly been there no i agree i agree that was the intent but for him to say they had a suggestion for a assassin yeah would he would know that this happened no no no no that's not what the the phone call said

1:22:14 A local student had made a threat to assassinate the president. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That makes more sense now. Okay. Thank you. Okay. What I found interesting when I was doing some research on Kennedy and I was looking for

1:22:41 Also, I'm doing another project on MKUltra, just trying to get my head wrapped around everything. Because we hear everything on this call, but we retain probably 20%. So you have to kind of go back and read and kind of pull it together and then timelines and get it across and not be distracted returning messages to customers and my clients. But anyway.

1:23:08 I did not know this, but MKUltra used Eli Lilly to make all their LSD for MKUltra. And that was tied to Crown and Jenner out of Chicago, which was disturbing. And then ties into Bush and some others. And there is a couple things out there dangling, but I have not, I've just.

1:23:37 I bookmarked it, and I'm going to go back and do a deeper dive on it. They think that possibly because of the mob connections in Chicago with this big law firm, which is typical of that time period, that Oswald was an MKUltra patient. I'll call it that, patient. Have you heard anything about that?

1:24:05 No, I mean, there's lots of people that speculate stuff. I don't talk about speculation. I just try to put the facts. What we know is that Oswald was involved in the CIA U2 program. We know that he was in Japan. We know that he was affiliated with mob, but not in Chicago, you know, in New Orleans.

1:24:31 Um, and so we know certain things. Um, is there the possibility? Sure. Anything's possible, but I, I try to stay with just the facts. Cause as you just pointed out, there's so many facts to keep straight. I can't even go into the what if, um, Yeah. Yeah. I just, these little danglers get caught up in articles and, um, but I just found it last night, bookmarked it and, uh,

1:25:01 I kind of bookmark five or six things and over the weekend kind of dig through it. I like to research. Yeah. And it kind of helps everything stick in my head because.

1:25:13 Paying attention to this, we can look at that next generation of who these people are in our country now and moving forward what's happening. But I keep finding a lot of my clients in the medical and pharmaceutical industry up to no good. Yeah, we need to find that. Dante, go ahead. Hey, so I just want to kind of bring some points home here. I'm just going to read this verbatim. I posted the column about it, but I'm going to read this.

1:25:42 The first family member lured by the Middle East petroleum wealth was George W. Bush's great-grandfather, George H. Walker, a buccaneer who was president of the Wall Street-based W.A. Harriman & Company. In the 1920s, Walker and his firm participated in the rebuilding of the Baku oil fields only a few hundred miles north of current-day Iraq.

1:26:07 As senior director of Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton, Walker's son-in-law, Prescott Bush, became involved in the Middle East in the years after World War II. But it was George H.W. Bush who forged the dynasty's strongest ties in the region. Bush was the first director to come from the oil industry.

1:26:33 He went on to become the first vice president and the president to have either an oil or CIA background. And this was leading up into BCCI Operation Cyclone. Really interesting notes. You guys want to talk about some interesting notes coming out of Chicago, too. You know, I mentioned Saul Linsky, you know, friends up there with Frank Nitti, but it was actually Hillary Clinton's.

1:27:03 roommate, Jan Pearsley, former director of the World Bank, who introduced her to Muhammad Yunus, who we just installed as the Bangladeshi PM. And you look at Grameen Bank and microfinancing and how that's tied into various different elements. But it's super interesting because Operation Cyclone we had back in the 70s,

1:27:33 60s and 70s, actually, was when we were developing Muslim student activists, the MSA, to basically conduct color revolutions throughout the whole, basically the entirety of the Middle East. And this includes Bangladesh. Bangladesh is huge. And this ties into what we're looking for today. Yes. One of the key figures in that was a guy.

1:28:02 who went by the name Malana Maldudi. He's considered like the godfather of jihad. He's the guy who actually founded the Jamaat-e-Islami movement, which is now in power with Yunus over in Bangladesh. But his family, he actually died in New York in 1979. This guy was so powerful, he would go do Hajj with Khomeini before he was the Ayatollah. And then he literally flew directly from doing Hajj with Khomeini.

1:28:31 into meeting into riyadh to meet with the house of sod that's who this guy was he was you know prominent on both sunni and shia side um and he wrote some really fucked up stuff his son became a doctor in new york and his son was the first elected committee member he was the first elected secretary of what's called ikna which is the islamic circle of north america which is an outfit which

1:29:00 Funds jihadists everywhere. Guess where his daughter recently showed up? Where? Running for chairman of the Cobb County GOP. Oh, that's right. That's why I recognize that name. I was just reading about her yesterday. Yep. We did a second dossier on her. We found out her uncle Khalid likes to go in.

1:29:28 Hang out with the financiers over at the Al-Kidmat Foundation, which is, again, a known terrorist financing entity. He was literally, it was on the Facebook page, distinguished guest, her uncle. I mean, you couldn't, but he was, the point is, they were in the U.S. because at the time, they were huge assets. Remember, it was Jamati Islami, the J.I., which funds.

1:29:57 which basically led to the establishment of what's now known as Al-Qaeda, you know, Lashkar-e-Taiba, his beloved Mujahideen. All that was a product of Milana Maldudi's Jamaat-e-Islami party, basically. And now his granddaughter was running to become Cobb County GOP chair. By the way, when the first dossier came out,

1:30:25 CARE had threatened a lawsuit for the Georgia Cobb County GOP in less than two hours. You have the second one out already? Yeah, it's been released. It's 82 pages. I think, hold on, I'll put it up in the... Yes, please do, because I read your first one. It was amazing. Yeah, believe it or not, the second one's even more damning, and I'll tell you what.

1:30:55 This whole nexus, that whole nexus ties directly into... She basically... So we found Farouk worked for... You're going to see a lot of microfinancing. It ties into election fraud and the smurfing. You're going to find a lot of prepaid credit and debit cards. You'll also find that there's a woke agenda here. It's all done under the guise of a woke agenda, but that whole nexus connects directly into Apex Partners, which is a...

1:31:25 British private equity firm. And it's all under the same executive leadership as Grameen America. Do you know who ran Los Angeles' Grameen America? Or who ran the Los Angeles branch of Grameen America? Guess who? Who? Isabel Maxwell. Which is just like anybody that wants to know. Yeah. So that's...

1:31:56 And it's crazy, too, because remember, Bill Clinton, he was talking to Charlie Rose about this. I found this old YouTube article where he praises the microfinancing schemes that Muhammad Yunus, who won the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize at the behest of Clinton. By the way, Hillary Clinton, while she was Secretary of State, got an investigation into Grameen Bank, which Yunus founded in the 1970s.

1:32:25 uh, as a method while he was, um, a Fulbright, he was on Fulbright scholarship at Vanderbilt. I'm sorry. That's a CIA thing too. Go ahead. Yeah. So he was, uh, he was at Vanderbilt whenever he, he was like, okay, well, I'm going to establish like this, uh, micro financing, this community bank where they specialize in loans from like.

1:32:50 Dante, explain to everybody what this is. After you did your dossier, I went and investigated this guy. Explain to them what microfinancing is and what he was doing. And I'm just going to say the bottom line up front. The way the loans work, sometimes these people ended up paying like 100% interest. Go ahead and explain what microfinancing is. So microfinancing is what they call loans that are targeted towards people who are

1:33:17 as they call it, underbanked, meaning they don't have people who basically don't even have bank accounts. They're poor. They come from downtrodden neighborhoods. They have high credit, so they can't get a loan or anything. So basically, they send out these small loans, anywhere from $2,000 to $15,000, and they claim that they're interest-free. But when we found digging into it, specifically Grameen,

1:33:47 was a 23% interest rate, which is criminal in itself. But if you don't pay it back, the interest rate keeps accumulating. Accruing. Yeah. And in some cases, they fail. And they do it to the poor people, who they know are bad, like he said, bad credit risk. So they know that they're going to get their money.

1:34:13 And they use really interesting tactics to get their money. USAID officially, from what I found, officially USAID sent Grameen Bank in Bangladesh over $165 million through USAID. Supposedly to help with this initiative, but they were making bank on our tax dollars.

1:34:43 Right. And then $100 million disappeared from Grameen Bank. And when Hasina, the former Bengali PM, who is now in India, when she tried to investigate it in 2013, Hillary Clinton shut it down. That was followed on by an immediate $300,000 payment to the Clinton Fund. Now you know why they overthrew her and put their stooge back in.

1:35:12 Yeah, and again, that nexus ties directly into Grameen America. So the CEO of Grameen America is a guy named Steven Vogel. He's the CEO of NetSpend Holdings, where Sophia Farouk worked, which owns Skylight Financial and Total Systems Services, which are basically credit card processors. Within this whole nexus connected from NetSpend directly over into Apex,

1:35:41 Basically, Apex Partners is the payment processor in total. I haven't been able to find the specific amount, but they own Bonterra, which is a payment processor for 650,000 NGOs. In total, they do payment processing for almost a million that I've found. And they also do ID verification checks. They control over 200 billion.

1:36:11 ID verification checks conducted annually. So going back to your original sequence, this starts with George Walker, Perriman, the Baku oil fields. The Baku oil fields is where Allen Dulles first bought, took over one of the concessions for Standard Oil.

1:36:41 from Nobel and George DeMorgan Shield's father was the field manager for the Nobel family in Sweden of that concession. The Nobel family, using George DeMorgan Shield's father, sold that concession to Standard Oil and Allen Dulles was the agent. So Allen Dulles met George DeMorgan Shield when he was like 10 or 11 years old.

1:37:06 And he is very good friends with the DeMorgan Shield family. And it just so happens that George DeMorgan Shield is Alan Dulles' primary witness for the JFK Warren Commission. So then all of that, as you pointed out, BCCI, everything that he just said has, up until his crossing over into the more current stuff, all sets.

1:37:35 on stuff that we have covered here extensively to include the BCCI bank. Colonel, can I pile on to this conversation you're having with Dante? Hold on just a second. BCCI, we found in our research of that bank, George H.W. Bush had an account, and that was a CIA front bank.

1:38:01 Yeah, let me check with SR-71 just to see what he has, Warhamster, and then I'll come to you. I'm obviously taking it out of sequence, but you guys just be patient with me. SR-71, did you have something? That's all right, Colonel. I've got something for Warhamster, but I'll let everybody else go here real quick. Okay, go ahead, Warhamster. It's just tying to what you and Dante are just talking about. We're going back into the Bush origination.

1:38:31 of Zapata Oil and everything like that. And we didn't mention Jorge Diaz Serrano from Pemex, who was a big partner of his there. That's a Mexican, well, whatever you want to call him. Dante's just talking about the microfinance. You know, having lived most of my adult life in San Diego, you can go to just, you know, there's a number of places you walk in to get a taco or whatever, and you're going to find payday loans.

1:38:55 uh with the place where the you know all the illegal send their remittances back to south of the border and if you want to really dig up some really fun stuff dante take a look at those companies who they're affiliated with i used to work at citibank which is huge banking in mexico but there's a combination the three things right there between citibank serrano and microfinance there is a trail there to be followed i have not done the full i haven't

1:39:23 picked up all the breadcrumbs. I'm just telling you there's a pattern. So everything you were saying is spot on, and it fits the entire big narrative. The other comment I wanted to make was, you know, when the colonel talked about, what is it, 42 people from Yale got recruited to the CIA. And that sounds like astronomical, but I don't know if you've ever run into this or talked about it before. You know, Yale's enrollment,

1:39:53 is usually right around the 5,000 or 6,000 people number. But after World War II, they did an accelerated program where they were training about 20,000 plus men and women for military service. Well, separate from the regular school curriculum, they're considered Yale students. So basically, I'm wondering how many of the 42 came from there because I can just see sitting around the campus quad.

1:40:20 and a CIA director just comes up to a table with me and like five of my buddies, you know, just having a glass of tea or whatever, saying, hey, do you guys want to go out there and start overthrowing governments? I mean, how does that conversation even happen? But it makes more sense if they're training a bunch of people for military service that aren't enrolled in the college and they're picking out the certain personality types they're looking for. Well, to your point, through one of these research projects,

1:40:50 That campus was primarily focused on people that were using the GI Bill that had just left World War II. And it was set up on an old Army base and affiliated, as you said. So they got a Yale degree. And it would be interesting to find out how many of that group did that, because obviously that would be a fertile recruiting. That's a great point. All right. Let's go back to.

1:41:19 SR-71, do you want to go now or do you want to wait? Well, now's a good time. Let me throw in some kudos here between Colonel Towner and War Hamster and the amazing work they're doing on secret societies. All of these people come from prep schools that are unbelievable. And one of the things I was wondering, and it crossed my mind today, was do we have...

1:41:50 an alumni roster of current students from these places? Yeah, I saw that comment in the chat, on the Rumble chat, and I didn't address it. I don't know. Let's see if anybody can find it for the St. Paul School. I didn't look for the current. We don't want to be harassing people under the age of 18 or anything like that. But the one thing I forgot to mention with the St. Paul School we talked about today is

1:42:19 And Colonel, I'm sure I'm surprised you didn't ask the question, but yes, they do have a history of sexual scandals in the school. Because every single one of these private boarding schools has got scandals having to do with sexual harassment. And it's not all male, female. So, yeah, they've got some scandals as well. But no, I have no idea what the current roster is. Just like we don't know anyone from Skull and Bones since 1982, which really ticks me off.

1:42:49 A way to get that, the modern roster of this stuff, to find out who's in our government today, besides the ones that we know about already. Who's the next generation of the young globalist leaders coming from Yale? I don't know the answer. Thank you, Warhamster. When we first started doing the prep schools, I've looked up all four of them, and all four of them, the top four, St. Paul's being one of them, all had sex scandals, and not all of them opposite sex. Okay.

1:43:23 All along, go. Now, guys, we've got 15 minutes, so let's keep this short. And we've got a lot of hands. So all along, go ahead. Okay. Colonel, relating to the photo of George Bush at the Texas School Board Depository, I mean, personally, I'm very reluctant to go with photo evidence. But it seems to me, as someone else pointed out, you know, there's a tremendous amount of stuff on Bush in Dallas that day.

1:43:52 So one pattern that we know of is someone will kind of like put a cherry on the sundae that fits a little too nicely, and it's fake, and it's designed to discredit the sundae. There's a lot of there there, and this could be another time this was done, in my opinion, is the whole driver shot JFK stuff. There's a ton of legitimate stuff relating to the driver role in the assassination, but then he shot him seems to be an intelligence op, in my opinion.

1:44:22 I was thinking with Dante's comments about the Islamic organizations. Obviously, those are huge in Pakistan as well. And we know today, right now, you know, there seems to be these conflagrations happening on the Pakistani and India border. And it's just like it's almost predictable because there's major geopolitical shifting going on between the U.S., China and Russia. And the last time that happened, you know,

1:44:52 They use Pakistan to put the China card into play and raise questions there. So we should note that this is happening right now at this moment in time on the border of Pakistan and China right now. I can tie that directly in whenever you go through hands. Whenever I pop back up, I'll tie it directly in. Nice little bow. I'll get back to you. Ron, go ahead. All right. So a couple of things. You know, earlier you had mentioned how the CIA.

1:45:22 was afraid of the people and they were doing all kinds of things to make people guess and whatnot. And in reference to the JFK assassination, I don't know how many people remember that documentary that came out, The Men Who Killed Kennedy. It was like a six-part documentary. Later came out with like a three-part supplemental, so a total of nine episodes. To me, that just reeks of CIA.

1:45:46 disinformation put out there to try to get people off the scent. Number two is you talked about how they've been importing assassins all the time. I have an idea that they've been importing quite a few assassins, specifically for this point in time, especially with the Trump administration. And I know you don't like to deal with speculation, but

1:46:12 I don't know. That is a piece that kind of fits together. And I'd like your thoughts if you have any. Well, not on the speculation part, just on the fact that it did a pattern. That's basically all I'm going to say. They don't have to import them, Ron. They're already here. They've been grooming these people for a very long time.

1:46:34 And I'm not talking about from back in the 1960s, and I'm not talking about the Cuban exiles. We have people that we've imported from Afghanistan and from Iraq. We've had people that we've imported from Syria. We have been bringing these people in that we trained as assassins in overthrows of governments within the last 10 years.

1:46:59 So I said, and I can't remember very, very, very briefly. There was, if I recall correctly, there was some CIA Muslim camp someplace up in Pennsylvania that was like completely off limits, but it was, it was all run by, by radical Islam. If I remember correctly, I don't, I'm, I'm, it's very, the details are very easy, but I remember that very vividly. You're talking about the Gulan guy and he's from Turkey.

1:47:29 And yes, that is a terrorist training. People in the local areas complained about hearing guns going off all the time and explosions. Yes. He was kicked out of Turkey. Yeah. All right. Stellar, go. I was just going to bring up something with Warhamster in here. Just maybe, you know, clarification, because there's so much stuff going on right now within the banking and financial markets, the currencies and stuff.

1:48:01 Back during the time like Nixon and all of this stuff, there was a big upheaval with us changing on the monetary system as well.

1:48:10 And back then it was the drugs, you know, whether it was the LSD that the CIA was doing part of their MK Ultra, whatever it was that they were doing. You know, it just sounds like everything has been shenanigans. Do you think that this is also very similar? Because I know it's the same playbook, but it just seems like there's so many coincidences back then. LSD today, fentanyl, you know, do you see that? Or am I just imagining it? Is that question directed at me? Yes.

1:48:40 So you're talking about the early 1970s. And, boy, I tell you, I'm glad Ron Partain is on this call right now because he and I have talked about this ad nauseum. You know, you seem to have two major factions in the power player game all the way through the 40s, 50s, 60s. And all of a sudden there was a change in the 1970s. This is part of my Rockefeller theory that, you know, the four stooges of the Rockefellers, Kissinger, Brzezinski.

1:49:07 Maurice Strong and Klaus Schwab all launched. We had a bunch of things happening at the exact same time. The U.S. knows it's extricating itself from Vietnam, so they're shifting the drug war. You've got the opening up of China. You've got the introduction of this whole climate alarmism scam. I hope I said that loudly enough because that's how I feel about that. You did. Okay. I want to emphasize that really hard that it's a climate scam. Yes.

1:49:36 But all this stuff happened all in about a three or four year period. And what I think you saw happening there was that the, shall we say, the aristocratic multinational corporates, the elite, they were able to consult because they'd had control of the government. And the new Anglo-American rules-based order, this international trade system, run through Wall Street more than anything else.

1:50:05 With a little help from London, but that's kind of a side note. I think they consolidated so much power that they had now got control of both political parties in America and they were able to really start implementing their ultimate goal towards the new world order or whatever you want to – you think their ultimate goal is. I think it's all about the depopulation, Malthusian thing, the resource grab.

1:50:32 Going back to lords and serfs, I think that was the whole plan. But the fact that it all happened in about a four or five year period in the early 1970s, yeah, that's way more than a coincidence. And introducing all the drugs to the streets of America absolutely coincided with that. I mean, it's all part of the same plan. And you can take it all the way back to the Rockefellers, the FDA, founding that, changing medicine, what they did with all the different...

1:51:02 And pharmaceutical derivatives, when you're creating oil, the whole petroleum refining process creates so many byproducts, and the Rockefellers had a monopoly on all of it. And that all ties into the same thing. Yeah, the early 1970s, I think, is where you look at we had a major shift. So it's a great question, and I hope I didn't get too broad of it. No, that was perfect. Southern, go ahead.

1:51:29 Yeah, I've been doing some research on skull and bones, and I came across there is a library called Yale Sterling Memorial Library. It's a front for the CIA. Before that, OSS and a faculty and one of the faculty, Norman Holmes Pearson, was involved in counterintelligence recruiting.

1:51:56 And his job, too, was to look at skull and bones. They were plucking about 15 per year out of skull and bones to move over up under the CIA. So it's not like they were recruited. I thought they would have been recruited by members of the CIA because of their relationships together.

1:52:19 But they were actually recruited from the CIA directly on campus. And they picked up about 15. They said 15 per year. Well, no. Southern, there's only 15 selected for skull and bones each year. Oh, okay. That's what this means. Okay. All right. Thank you. Sure. I'm trying to read this without my glasses. But they were.

1:52:46 highly sought after because of their social connections and ambition and world, and they liked the fact that they had traveled. My question is, is that still, I assume that's still existing on campus, correct? Well, they're doing active recruiting on Yale, Harvard, all of the, I believe. Warhamster wants you to repeat the name of the library.

1:53:15 Oh, sure. It's Sterling, like Sterling Silver Memorial Library. Yeah, we came across that in one of the that's in somebody's bio that you did that we did on our show. So repeat that one more time for me, please. I'm going to be visiting. I'm going to be visiting the Yale campus in a few weeks. Oh, OK. Awesome. I'm going to check it out. Sterling.

1:53:43 Yeah, Sterling, like Sterling Silver. Got it. Memorial Library. Yeah, I've been digging through this. I need to move on. I'm sorry. We've got five minutes left. Dante, go ahead. No, I was going to say that as far as the CIA recruiting process, when I studied in Rome, they were actively recruiting out of my university.

1:54:12 Specifically, there was a guy there who would go. He was a 25-year CIA director. He was boss over at CIA for 25 years, and he was also Clinton's nuclear proliferation advisor, a guy named Jack Caravelli. The way they do it, it's at least what they were doing for us. I told him straight up, no, not interested.

1:54:36 We still have beers and stuff, but it's very casual how they do it. Their recruiting process is very informal, and they send basically careerists out, guys who are like ex-CIA, quote-unquote, and they'll pluck you up from there having casual beers with you. Do you speak Italian?

1:55:02 Yes. And that's the hook. To Southern's point, they're looking for people that can blend in in foreign countries so that there's that plausible deniability that you're not necessarily an asset and people that travel is paramount. They love to do it as early as the university because then they can mold them into the person that they want them to be. Right. Correct.

1:55:29 What they would do with us, unfortunately, this is why the CIA is so compromised. There's so many leftists and communists in there now. It's probably unrecognizable from what it was in the 50s and 60s with all the neocons who were in the show.

1:55:50 Yeah, just on that. But if you guys want me to discuss like the Bangladesh situation, I can tie in because it all comes back to like what you're seeing with Epic in Texas. And that is directly almost linear connection to what we're seeing over in South Asia with the India-Pakistan quarrel.

1:56:15 which Bangladesh is largely behind Pakistan. Remember, the Pakistani ISI, their armed militant wing, is Jamaati-Islami. Well, what did they use to call Bangladesh? Pakistan. East Pakistan. Yeah. So when they created Pakistan after World War II, it wasn't enough just to create Pakistan. They basically went on the other side of India.

1:56:43 and created East Pakistan so that they had encompassed with this Pakistani ISI apparatus, which, you know, in the post-World War II all the way through the 70s and the 80s, that that was an apparatus almost largely funded by the CIA. And so we should do a whole show on that.

1:57:09 Dante, I definitely think it's worthwhile, especially given what's going on right now. So let's carve out a date that works for us. If you'll DM me and we'll do one of these four o'clock shows just on that. By the way, just just kind of. Yeah, I'll DM you. But the the architect, the licensed architect for the epic down there in Dallas, she's she's her parents still live in Bangladesh.

1:57:40 Of course. So anyways, I'll get with you on the back. Yeah, it'll be fascinating. OK, Jeff, go ahead. Hey, Colonel. Hey, Stellar. Hey, SR-71 Blackbird. OK, let's go. OK. Yes, ma'am. So then Houston is a petrochemical capital of the United States. That's where big drug and petrochemical people operate. That's where.

1:58:12 The whole operation really sits, Colonel, with the CIA and the FBI making a terrible mistake, showing how guilty they were by endorsing Kamala Harris. And you'd mentioned Barack Obama, who is top intelligence. That's why his records are sealed. He's the Henry Kissinger, and he's the puppet of the global elites that want to bring us to the new world order.

1:58:42 And I just appreciate you bringing up the fact that Brazil and people in South America have been trained in terrorists and they teach them to speak Spanish before they bring them into the United States, as well as the CCP coming through San Diego at the request of Gavin Newsom, who is CCP and cartel backed. He's a traitor to the United States, needs to step down immediately. And I'll yield with that. And thanks for letting me up, Colonel.

1:59:11 I appreciate everybody up here. Just two things. Warhamster, a couple of things is the DEA and Trilateral Commission also right about that time period. And Dante, I followed you. I'd love to connect with you outside if you could follow me back so I could DM you. That would be fantastic. That was all I had. Thank you.

1:59:33 Philip, go ahead, and then we'll go back to Dante. What's up, Colonel? I just wanted to let you guys know the nuclear posture of Pakistan is first use. So that's very concerning. I view them as a messianic regime, very similar to Iran. I don't even know if it's Pakistan, Sunni or Shia. I don't know. I don't give a damn, honestly. And I'm sick and tired of...

2:00:04 Pakistan's axe, you know, and I think Trump is doing a decent job, but it's not our place. But we should try to convince them not to go nuclear because all it takes is eight of them and we'll have a nuclear winter and I'll land my plane. Okay, thank you. Dante, go ahead.

2:00:25 Hey, so I just it was funny you mentioned Barack Obama because Obama was basically pushed by the board of South Shore Bank, which is now it's called like Urban Equity or something like that. But at Shore Bank at the time, board member was also Jim Pearsley, who was Hillary Clinton's roommate. She's the one who had actually introduced Hillary Clinton to Eunice. So that all goes back to Shore Bank in Chicago. And I just wanted to.

2:00:54 bring that home with that. What else? Isn't it weird how so many of these stories run through Chicago? Yeah, almost like it was targeted there. Pakistan's really in a corner right now. When you put a feral dog in a corner, they're going to react violently. I pray for the best.

2:01:24 Our coup in Bangladesh really did some damage. And that was done under the whole Obama nexus. And it's just crazy. By the way, it's not so subtle anymore. So Steven Vogel, that guy I told you about, just driving it home with the drug trade here. So CEO of NetSpend, also the CEO of a SPAC, a special purpose acquisition. It was the largest SPAC.

2:01:54 In history, $200 million for a Chinese distribution weed farm. Now, there were two entities which were filed under this spec. One was for the weed. Guess what the other one was for? An air charter service of 30 to 40 King Airplanes. All paid for under this one spec. That's interesting. Yeah. New America.

2:02:27 Well, it's defunct now. It went belly up. They all do. Yeah, but it's not so subtle. I learned that from SEC filings. It was on 8K in Edgar where I found that. So if you know where to look, you can understand the networks. It's becoming very difficult for them to hide, and Georgia is a prime example trying to take over.

2:02:53 GOP. And what's been even more telling is a response we've gotten from some people. The Republican Party has a lot of problems. They need to get their house in order for sure.

2:03:06 Yeah. And that's the whole purpose of this exercise is to make it really difficult for them to hide. I'm sorry, Southern and Ron, I do have to run. I do want to get a shout out to 2F17 over on Rumble for that rant who had just received their Gladio shirt and wanted to let me know that they love it.

2:03:28 You're welcome for that. And thank you for purchasing that. If you guys didn't know, I do have a Shopify account that SR71 generally posts at some point over on Rumble. And during the show that has challenge coins and coffee mugs and a couple of t-shirts that you guys are welcome to go purchase if you want. All talking about Operation Gladio with our new Gladio shield.

2:03:57 So anyway, I do have to run. Phillip, I know you've got your hand up, but I do have to run. We have to run over to the Historical Society, who we'd love to support. They're having their spaghetti dinner tonight, and if you don't get there, they will sell out. So I apologize for having to leave, but I do have a hard break here that I need to get out of here. I have to not piss off my husband. So that's kind of the whole qualification to this entire exercise.

2:04:25 Thank you, Colonel. Thank you. Thank you, Colonel. Thank you. You're welcome. Just to make sure, Dante, please follow me back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got that, Ron. Have fun and tell Mr. Towner that we love him. Mr. Watkins. Watkins. Oh, Mr. Watkins. Sorry. Don't ever call him Mr. Towner.

2:04:52 Okay. Tell Mr. Watkins, I apologize profusely from the bottom of my heart. Thank you so much. You're welcome. And thank you guys all for being here. We will be back tomorrow at four o'clock. Thank you. Have a good night. Everybody take care.

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United States funded France book_quoted ▶ 4:41

“But after the war, Washington's Cold Warriors supported France's bid to regain its colony, an effort that led to war between Viet Minh and the French. Unquote. That war would end up with the French de…”

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“all about divide and conquer. The American backed Diem, a Catholic bachelor living in Europe, which was probably not a good choice considering the country was overwhelmingly Buddhist, but he was contr…”

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“In 1954, Edward Lansdell arrived in Vietnam on assignment for the agency. His orders were straightforward. Stop the communists. Lansdell pulled together a unit that waged paramilitary operations in po…”

Edward Lansdale funded Ngo Dinh Diem book_quoted ▶ 7:04

“sabotage to noise buses and railroad equipment. In South Vietnam, Lansdale bribed religious and political sect leaders to support Diem. The effort in Vietnam mirrored much of the efforts in the early …”

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“The well-known CIA adage, plausible deniability, springs to mind when considering the Phoenix program. Yeah, sure, the CIA funded, trained, and guided the Phoenix effort. But when things went really b…”

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CIA founded Phoenix Program book_quoted ▶ 11:32

“but it was the CIA creating the cells. You know, kind of like they do with domestic terror events under Operation Gladio. They use someone else so they have plausible deniability. After all, it was su…”

Ted Shackley headed CIA book_quoted ▶ 13:02

“The CIA's best defense? It was not set up an assassination unit, even though that's what it quickly became. In December 1968, Shackley took over as chief of CIA station in Saigon, and it was under his…”

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“In the event of any trouble, he would flip it open and duck his head inside. Unquote. It had been 16 years since Shackley had first joined the agency from being humiliated by the Soviets with the fant…”

CIA recruited Provisional Reconnaissance Units book_quoted ▶ 20:52

“there was a concern that if the numbers of dead were too high, it might look like a killing organization. The article went on, quote, probably the most controversial arm of the Phoenix program in each…”

CIA funded Provisional Reconnaissance Units book_quoted ▶ 20:52

Edward Lansdale recruited Philippines host_asserted ▶ 22:11

“This would have been a covered job to the South Vietnamese. As a consequence, those involved would be highly motivated to please their superiors, namely the South Vietnamese government and the CIA. An…”

CIA funded Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 22:39

“We sent Cuban exiles over there to do this. This was not something that was organic to South Vietnamese people. And keep in mind, we also discovered that the CIA, using the Catholic Church, since it's…”

CIA carried_out_attack Viet Cong documented ▶ 27:37

“charged that Operation Phoenix had been responsible for indiscriminate killings of civilians and the imprisonment of thousands of others in violation of international courts in legal actions in wartim…”

William Colby headed CIA documented ▶ 31:29

“that he had witnessed acts of torture, including the prodding of a person's brain with a six-inch dowel through his ear, and that in a year and a half with Phoenix, not a single suspect survived inter…”

CIA carried_out_attack Phoenix Program documented ▶ 31:29

Tim Weiner exposed Phoenix Program book_quoted ▶ 31:58

“at over 40,000. But ask the average American about the 20,000 or 40,000 Vietnamese killed by the CIA Phoenix program, and you're likely to get a blank stare. Even in the book Legacies of Ashes, Tim We…”

CIA trained Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 32:57

“They have drug in the dregs of society from all over Asia to include people from the United States as hired mercenaries. And they've turned local people into trained assassins. And their number one pr…”

Ted Shackley headed Phoenix Program book_quoted ▶ 33:58

“That the CIA has done this for the last 70 plus years and not a single word gets said about it. So it goes on to say the Phoenix program is thus seen not as an aberration, but as an example of the way…”

David Wise exposed CIA book_quoted ▶ 34:57

“It was written by Washington journalists Tom Ross and David Wise. The book spilled details of the botched-to-be-a-pig invasion. It offered the first authoritative account of CIA-backed coups in both I…”

Tom Ross exposed CIA book_quoted ▶ 34:57

CIA funded National Student Association documented ▶ 35:28

“It's remarkable how contemporary 1964 seems in comparison to 2024. 60 years later, we're still talking about how the CIA and the national security state has too much power, but never anything is ever …”

Stansfield Turner removed_from_power Ted Shackley book_quoted ▶ 36:25

“Some members of Congress grumbled that the CIA needed to be reined in, but the bastards aren't going to do it. Shackley had once dreamed of becoming the CIA director, but as the agency went under grea…”

Edwin Wilson ordered_assassination_of Orlando Letelier book_quoted ▶ 37:19

“There's a couple of quotes here. I don't want to read as much of this part because we've already covered this a lot. But there is a quote here that says Stanford Turner, who had taken over the directo…”

Edwin Wilson attempted_assassination_of Muammar Gaddafi book_quoted ▶ 37:50

“murder of Orlando Lettier, the former Chilean ambassador in the U.S. In September 1976, the ex-patriot Lettier, an assistant, an American citizen, had been killed while driving along Massachusetts Ave…”

Bob Woodward exposed Edwin Wilson host_asserted ▶ 38:18

“of the Libyan President Omar Gaddafi. Now, what I find most fascinating about this particular article is they're blaming Edwin Wilson. Edwin Wilson is the guy they frame for trafficking weapons to Gad…”

Ted Shackley trained Edwin Wilson host_asserted ▶ 38:46

“as the guy responsible for Latier's bombing, when in fact, the people that were actually convicted of it was CIA operatives under Ted Shackley, trained by Ted Shackley, that were part of the exile Cub…”

George H.W. Bush recruited Ted Shackley host_asserted ▶ 40:15

“In fact, the previous CIA director had been a strong supporter of Shackley's and would eventually become vice president and later president, George H.W. Bush, where he would bring Shackley in to troub…”

Felix Rodriguez member_of Brigade 2506 host_asserted ▶ 40:44

“who was a student of Ted Shackley and a member of the Brigade 2506, which was part of the Cuban exiles. And it was Felix Rodriguez that went to work for Shackley over in Vietnam. It was Felix Rodrigue…”

Felix Rodriguez trained Ted Shackley host_asserted ▶ 40:44

George H.W. Bush secretly_owned Zapata Offshore Company documented ▶ 41:14

“Read this. An FBI memo that was released in 1988, but it's dated November 22nd, 1963. At 1.45, George H.W. Bush, president of Zapata Offshore Oil Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, and it lists his res…”

George H.W. Bush spied_on James Parrott documented ▶ 41:42

“writer by long-distance phone call from Tyler, Texas. This is the alleged alibi. Bush stated that he wanted to be kept confidential but wanted to furnish hearsay that he recalled hearing in recent wee…”

J. Edgar Hoover exposed George H.W. Bush book_quoted ▶ 44:01

“just before the November election. Quote, The Nation magazine, in its current issue, quotes a memo from November 29, 1963, from J. Edgar Hoover, the Bureau's director at the time, to State Department …”

George H.W. Bush member_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 44:31

“Mr. George Bush of the CIA, unquote. 1963. On the reaction of Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination, the magazine article written by Joseph McBride also quoted an unidentified source with close c…”

CIA trained George H.W. Bush host_asserted ▶ 45:32

“trainees to these platforms and trained them there. They were using George Bush's oil company and the purchase of mobile drilling platforms to train terrorists on in the Gulf of Mexico. So going on, t…”

Stephen Halper exposed George H.W. Bush book_quoted ▶ 46:02

“One such article was written by a guy by the name of Stephen Hager, H-A-G-E-R, and he had done a lot of research into the Kennedy assassination and the CIA's role in it. This is a quote from him. I gu…”

George H.W. Bush headed CIA documented ▶ 49:02

“player involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion had been in Yale's secret skull and bone society by the time Bush became director of the CIA in 76. Phillips writes, three generations of Bush and Walker fa…”

George H.W. Bush funded Iran-Contra affair host_asserted ▶ 50:02

“Obituaries have transformed the terror that Bush inflicted as head of the CIA, as Ronald Reagan's vice president, and as president on the poor countries, depicting it as heroism. The invasion of Panam…”

George H.W. Bush overthrew Manuel Noriega documented ▶ 56:51

“So it says in reviewing the intersection of Bush and Ted Shackley, while Bush was head of the CIA in 75 and 76, we see a genesis of a later action in the Bush administration, namely the 1989 invasion …”

George H.W. Bush covered_up Manuel Noriega documented ▶ 57:20

“When the DIA discovered that Manuel Noriega had purchased intelligence information from three U.S. Army non-commissioned officers in Panama, Bush elected not to prosecute the Americans. Doing so would…”

George H.W. Bush established_alibi_for Robert Kennedy assassination host_asserted ▶ 1:08:27

“He made the phone call at 145. JFK was shot at 115. So he's trying to establish an alibi, which any intelligence agent would, that he was in Tyler, Texas. That doesn't mean he was. Back then, making a…”

Albert Jenner investigated Lee Harvey Oswald host_asserted ▶ 1:10:17

“to investigate Lee Harvey Oswald. So he was on, Albert Jenner was out of Chicago. He was on the board at General Dynamics, and he was a longtime lawyer for the Crown family, right? Okay, go ahead. And…”

Albert Jenner member_of General Dynamics host_asserted ▶ 1:10:17

Albert Jenner lawyer_for Crown family host_asserted ▶ 1:10:17

Albert Jenner recommended_impeachment_of Richard Nixon host_asserted ▶ 1:10:44

“To investigate Oswald, everything we know about Lee Harvey Oswald, to include the interviews that were conducted of Moore and Schilt, these were all done by Albert Jenner, who was basically the guy wh…”

Saul Alinsky associated_with Frank Nitti host_asserted ▶ 1:11:14

“So he was kind of like just, you know, whenever the rhinos wanted something done, they would call him in. But he was like vehemently anti-Kennedy. But I just found it was weird. Like all of it pretty …”

Solomon bin Laden board_member_of Harken Energy host_asserted ▶ 1:11:43

“Pretty interesting stuff. I just wanted to bring up Jenner and Harkin Energy as well. I'm not sure if you guys have talked about that. Bradford Freeman, George Bush, and Solomon Bin Laden all on the b…”

George H.W. Bush board_member_of Harken Energy host_asserted ▶ 1:11:43

George H.W. Bush associated_with Greece host_asserted ▶ 1:16:02

“Bush's, Barbara's letter to, I think, the wife of Ulmer. You know, this James Ulmer guy is, and they speak, talk about them being in Greece in 1950. And Greece in 1950 and 49 is a kind of, it's kind o…”

Warren Commission discredited Gene Hill host_asserted ▶ 1:17:28

“You know, Jean Hill is, of course, the closest to the limo next to her. She's the woman in red closest to the limo with her friend Mary Mormon with the Polaroids process going on. And they tried to di…”

Warren Commission discredited John F. Kennedy host_asserted ▶ 1:17:56

“We're going to see some smoke under the knoll very, very shortly. That's going to blow that out of the water. And it's similar to how they do this with other witnesses. The Warren Commission, for exam…”

MKUltra used Eli Lilly and Company host_asserted ▶ 1:23:08

“I did not know this, but MKUltra used Eli Lilly to make all their LSD for MKUltra. And that was tied to Crown and Jenner out of Chicago, which was disturbing. And then ties into Bush and some others. …”

Eli Lilly and Company associated_with Crown family host_asserted ▶ 1:23:08

Lee Harvey Oswald involved_in U-2 program host_asserted ▶ 1:24:05

“No, I mean, there's lots of people that speculate stuff. I don't talk about speculation. I just try to put the facts. What we know is that Oswald was involved in the CIA U2 program. We know that he wa…”

Lee Harvey Oswald affiliated_with New Orleans host_asserted ▶ 1:24:05

Lee Harvey Oswald located_in Japan host_asserted ▶ 1:24:05

George Herbert Walker president_of W.A. Harriman & Company host_asserted ▶ 1:25:42

“The first family member lured by the Middle East petroleum wealth was George W. Bush's great-grandfather, George H. Walker, a buccaneer who was president of the Wall Street-based W.A. Harriman & Compa…”

George Herbert Walker participated_in_rebuilding_of Baku oil fields host_asserted ▶ 1:25:42

Prescott Bush senior_director_of Dresser Industries host_asserted ▶ 1:26:07

“As senior director of Dresser Industries, which is now part of Halliburton, Walker's son-in-law, Prescott Bush, became involved in the Middle East in the years after World War II. But it was George H.…”

George H.W. Bush first_director_from_oil_industry_for Operation Cyclone host_asserted ▶ 1:26:33

“He went on to become the first vice president and the president to have either an oil or CIA background. And this was leading up into BCCI Operation Cyclone. Really interesting notes. You guys want to…”

Jan Pearsley director_of Bank for International Settlements host_asserted ▶ 1:27:03

“roommate, Jan Pearsley, former director of the World Bank, who introduced her to Muhammad Yunus, who we just installed as the Bangladeshi PM. And you look at Grameen Bank and microfinancing and how th…”

Jan Pearsley introduced Muhammad Yunus host_asserted ▶ 1:27:03

Muhammad Yunus installed_as Pakistan host_asserted ▶ 1:27:03

Jan Pearsley introduced Hillary Clinton host_asserted ▶ 1:27:03

Operation Cyclone developed Pakistan host_asserted ▶ 1:27:33

“60s and 70s, actually, was when we were developing Muslim student activists, the MSA, to basically conduct color revolutions throughout the whole, basically the entirety of the Middle East. And this i…”

Maulana Bhashani associated_with Ayatollah Khomeini host_asserted ▶ 1:28:02

“who went by the name Malana Maldudi. He's considered like the godfather of jihad. He's the guy who actually founded the Jamaat-e-Islami movement, which is now in power with Yunus over in Bangladesh. B…”

Maulana Bhashani founded Jamaat-e-Islami host_asserted ▶ 1:28:02

Islamic Circle of North America funds Al Qaeda host_asserted ▶ 1:28:31

“into meeting into riyadh to meet with the house of sod that's who this guy was he was you know prominent on both sunni and shia side um and he wrote some really fucked up stuff his son became a doctor…”

Jamaat-e-Islami led_to_establishment_of Al Qaeda host_asserted ▶ 1:29:57

“which basically led to the establishment of what's now known as Al-Qaeda, you know, Lashkar-e-Taiba, his beloved Mujahideen. All that was a product of Milana Maldudi's Jamaat-e-Islami party, basically…”

Apex Partners same_executive_leadership_as Grameen America host_asserted ▶ 1:31:25

“British private equity firm. And it's all under the same executive leadership as Grameen America. Do you know who ran Los Angeles' Grameen America? Or who ran the Los Angeles branch of Grameen America…”

Isabel Maxwell ran Grameen America host_asserted ▶ 1:31:25

Bill Clinton praised Muhammad Yunus host_asserted ▶ 1:31:56

“And it's crazy, too, because remember, Bill Clinton, he was talking to Charlie Rose about this. I found this old YouTube article where he praises the microfinancing schemes that Muhammad Yunus, who wo…”

Hillary Clinton shut_down_investigation_into Grameen Bank host_asserted ▶ 1:31:56

USAID sent_money_to Grameen Bank host_asserted ▶ 1:34:13

“And they use really interesting tactics to get their money. USAID officially, from what I found, officially USAID sent Grameen Bank in Bangladesh over $165 million through USAID. Supposedly to help wi…”

Sheikh Hasina tried_to_investigate Grameen Bank host_asserted ▶ 1:34:43

“Right. And then $100 million disappeared from Grameen Bank. And when Hasina, the former Bengali PM, who is now in India, when she tried to investigate it in 2013, Hillary Clinton shut it down. That wa…”

Hillary Clinton shut_down_investigation_by Sheikh Hasina host_asserted ▶ 1:34:43

Clinton Foundation received_payment_from Grameen Bank host_asserted ▶ 1:34:43

Allen Dulles funded Standard Oil host_asserted ▶ 1:36:11

“ID verification checks conducted annually. So going back to your original sequence, this starts with George Walker, Perriman, the Baku oil fields. The Baku oil fields is where Allen Dulles first bough…”

George de Mohrenschildt member_of Nobel family host_asserted ▶ 1:36:41

“from Nobel and George DeMorgan Shield's father was the field manager for the Nobel family in Sweden of that concession. The Nobel family, using George DeMorgan Shield's father, sold that concession to…”

Nobel family sold Standard Oil host_asserted ▶ 1:36:41

Allen Dulles recruited George de Mohrenschildt host_asserted ▶ 1:36:41

George de Mohrenschildt member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:37:06

“And he is very good friends with the DeMorgan Shield family. And it just so happens that George DeMorgan Shield is Alan Dulles' primary witness for the JFK Warren Commission. So then all of that, as y…”

CIA front_for BCCI host_asserted ▶ 1:37:35

“on stuff that we have covered here extensively to include the BCCI bank. Colonel, can I pile on to this conversation you're having with Dante? Hold on just a second. BCCI, we found in our research of …”

George H.W. Bush member_of BCCI host_asserted ▶ 1:37:35

CIA recruited Yale University host_asserted ▶ 1:39:23

“picked up all the breadcrumbs. I'm just telling you there's a pattern. So everything you were saying is spot on, and it fits the entire big narrative. The other comment I wanted to make was, you know,…”

CIA recruited Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 1:51:56

“And his job, too, was to look at skull and bones. They were plucking about 15 per year out of skull and bones to move over up under the CIA. So it's not like they were recruited. I thought they would …”

Norman Holmes Pearson member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:51:56

Jack Caravelli member_of CIA guest_asserted ▶ 1:54:12

“Specifically, there was a guy there who would go. He was a 25-year CIA director. He was boss over at CIA for 25 years, and he was also Clinton's nuclear proliferation advisor, a guy named Jack Caravel…”

Inter-Services Intelligence front_for Jamaat-e-Islami guest_asserted ▶ 1:56:15

“which Bangladesh is largely behind Pakistan. Remember, the Pakistani ISI, their armed militant wing, is Jamaati-Islami. Well, what did they use to call Bangladesh? Pakistan. East Pakistan. Yeah. So wh…”

CIA funded Inter-Services Intelligence guest_asserted ▶ 1:56:43

“and created East Pakistan so that they had encompassed with this Pakistani ISI apparatus, which, you know, in the post-World War II all the way through the 70s and the 80s, that that was an apparatus …”