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Claims (27)
Jimmy Carter appointed
Stansfield Turner documented
“Just do a blanket one, then you can't be held accountable. As in many matters during the years in the White House, Carter was frustrated in his first choice of CIA Director Theodore Sorensen. Carter's nominee had to withdraw when his nomina…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 39 (41) @ 43:40
Stansfield Turner wrote
Secrecy and Democracy documented
“CIA memoirs, Secrecy and Democracy, quote, it wasn't long after Frank Carlucci arrived that he came to share my concerns. He told me he had come to perceive that running the CIA from the director's office was like operating a power plant fr…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 29:59
Stansfield Turner appointed
Frank Carlucci documented
“That, folks, is money laundering. Can you give me the name of that real quick again? International. I had my hands full. International Research and Trade. I-R-T. Sure. When Stanford Turner made Frank Carlucci his deputy in February of 1978,…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 29:27
Stansfield Turner headed
CIA documented
“Turner and Carter had been classmates at Annapolis. Although regulations forced him to retire from the Navy to accept the offer, Turner took the DCI job. Despite being able, Turner was an outsider to Langley and remained unpopular. He gaine…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 39 (41) @ 44:11
Stansfield Turner appointed
G. Michael Condon book_quoted
“they had helped orchestrate on President Carter, began to take effect. Within the CIA, Shackley was seen by the disenfranchised and disheartened case officers as their natural leader. This status gave him plenty of room to operate, and supp…”
▶ Operation Gladio Prelude to Terror Chapter 20 @ 8:33
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
Ted Shackley book_quoted
“Some members of Congress grumbled that the CIA needed to be reined in, but the bastards aren't going to do it. Shackley had once dreamed of becoming the CIA director, but as the agency went under greater scrutiny, his chances were vanished.…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Twilight of the Shadow Government #7 @ 36:25
William Casey succeeded
Stansfield Turner host_asserted
“running for a very long time. But during this phase of the operation, in most books, it's referred to as the Enterprise. So he talks about William Casey having taken over from Admiral Stanford Turner, Stanfield Turner, as the DCI.…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner_ The Medusa Files; Part 12 @ 17:59
Stansfield Turner carried_out_attack
CIA host_asserted
“Turner, his CIA director, firing every single person in the covert operations area of the CIA. Over 800 officers are fired in one day. Why? Because Jimmy Carter did not like the fact that we went around the world overthrowing governments. H…”
▶ OPERATION GLADIO - PART 39 - _JIMMY CARTER & PANAMA CANAL_ - EP.372 @ 37:43
Stansfield Turner fired
Hank Nolte host_asserted
“He ends up firing the current deputy, Hank Nolte, and he wants to fire Shackley and Klein, but he's kind of waved off on doing that and takes all of his venom out on Nolke, which you spell his name K-N-O-C-H-E. Then Wisenberger and Loomis g…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 1:26
Stansfield Turner reassigned
Richard M. Bissell Jr. documented
“Turner reassigned both men to what he believed was meaningless jobs. Shackley's colleagues in the DO, the demotion was basically a body blow to a small, very close-knit group of covert operators. Although he could have retired, Shackley rem…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 5:26
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
William Wells documented
“had him replace Bill Wells. Everywhere Turner sought to manage the colossus giant, clandestine service officer, DeWayne Claridge, never slow to criticize weakness, credits Turner while trying to transform the director of operations into the…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 39 (41) @ 53:37
Stansfield Turner appointed
John McMahon documented
“had him replace Bill Wells. Everywhere Turner sought to manage the colossus giant, clandestine service officer, DeWayne Claridge, never slow to criticize weakness, credits Turner while trying to transform the director of operations into the…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 39 (41) @ 53:37
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
Ted Shackley documented
“Hank knock and discipline Ted Shackley, a Wilson associate, as well as fire a couple of other officers. He stepped in it. Then there was the denouncement of the Helm affair. Admiral Turner found Helms very defensive when they met. Little wo…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 39 (41) @ 51:03
Jimmy Carter appointed
Stansfield Turner host_asserted
“The danger was that other areas would then be included in presidential findings. As in many times during the years of the White House, President Carter was frustrated with his first selection as the director of intel. He originally chose Th…”
▶ The Colonels Corner_ Presidents’ Secret Wars chapter 16 continued @ 1:00:11
Stansfield Turner headed
CIA host_asserted
“There's a cadre of corrupt people in the CIA. They obviously had to have a leader. They're never going to let anybody in the CIA. And I mean, Stanford Turner is probably the only guy in the history of the CIA that was not handpicked by the …”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Twilight of the Shadow Government Part 6 @ 1:08:50
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
CIA host_asserted
“to be in charge of the CIA. And he was the guy that fired the almost a thousand person within a few months that same year that Carter took over. And then the following year, he fired a whole bunch more. That's as close as anyone has ever ca…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Twilight of the Shadow Government Part 6 @ 1:09:20
Stansfield Turner headed
CIA documented
“They escaped and eventually turned up at agency headquarters where Hart became the branch chief for Iran in the Near East Division. Admiral Stansfield Turner, director of the CIA under Carter, had a different headache. In the form of six ot…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Safe for Democracy Part 3 (2) @ 39:23
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
CIA host_asserted
“As a result of budget limits. It had much more to do than budget limits because basically he fired the entire covert action area. And that's something that obviously this author is not interested in actually depicting that for what it reall…”
▶ The Colonels Corner_ Presidents’ Secret Wars chapter 16 continued @ 1:01:08
Stansfield Turner reassigned
William Wells documented
“Turner reassigned both men to what he believed was meaningless jobs. Shackley's colleagues in the DO, the demotion was basically a body blow to a small, very close-knit group of covert operators. Although he could have retired, Shackley rem…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 5:26
Stansfield Turner ordered_assassination_of
Halloween Massacre documented
“Bush had taken no action on it at all. In August 1977, Turner ordered the CIA to reduce the Directorate of Operations by 823 positions within two years. The DO sent out the cable firing 823 veteran case officers on Halloween. Inside the age…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 6:21
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
Tom Clines book_quoted
“Shackley felt that this would get Klein's out of harm's way, but Turner ordered it canceled. Despite the circumstances of Shackley and Klein's departure from the CIA, Shackley still talked about wanting to be the DCI. Brill said both men ta…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 33:53
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
Anastasio Somoza book_quoted
“quote-unquote security program. Carter had ordered Turner to cut Somoza off from all intelligence and CIA operations because of his dismal human rights, because he had death squads. According to Wilson, Klein said to him, quote, we can feed…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 44:54
Jimmy Carter installed
Stansfield Turner host_asserted
“for a variety of reasons, the most important having to do with the Middle East geopolitical chessboard at the time. They wanted a real born-again Christian whose strong sympathies lay with the Christian communities throughout the Middle Eas…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner President Jimmy Carter in review @ 1:04:41
Tom Clines disliked
Stansfield Turner host_asserted
“as if it was an open goodwill gesture. Rumors that Paisley had defected to the Soviet Union and the fact that the Office of Security had been looking at Paisley's loyalty before he disappeared came back to haunt Turner. He looked foolish in…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 32:17
Stansfield Turner removed_from_power
Israel book_quoted
“Late in 1978 was the crucial time in the Carter administration when Carter had staked a great deal of his credibility on the peace accord between Egypt and Israel. But in spite of the vast support for such a treaty, the American Jewish comm…”
▶ Operation Gladio Prelude to Terror Chapter 20 @ 10:02
Richard M. Bissell Jr. disliked
Stansfield Turner host_asserted
“as if it was an open goodwill gesture. Rumors that Paisley had defected to the Soviet Union and the fact that the Office of Security had been looking at Paisley's loyalty before he disappeared came back to haunt Turner. He looked foolish in…”
▶ Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror chapter 17 @ 32:17
Stansfield Turner exposed
Operation Gladio host_asserted
“he was on Italian TV, and they asked him about Gladio, and he immediately said, like, fuck you, and stormed out of the interview. Oh, now, we just covered Stanfield Turner and Jimmy Carter and the Halloween Massacre and all of that. I have …”
▶ Operation Gladio with guest Hugo Turner Ukraine background @ 1:47:27
Mentions (97)
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He takes presidency in January 77. In September 77, he signs the Panama Treaty. In October of 77, on October 31st, otherwise known as Halloween, there is a thing that's infamous in the CIA community called the Halloween Massacre. And that i…
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Mount Airy in the spring of 1978. Shackley spoke seriously of how the agency was being destroyed by Carter and Turner and how the only hope they had was to take things private outside of the CIA. Wilson said Shackley was convinced that unde…
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What a small network of corrupt people. So there you have it. The next segment is going to talk about Stanford Turner's oversight at the CIA after Bush leaves. So lots of information in that part there. But again, the amazing thing to me.…
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Amen. I mean, they got to make it trigonometry, right? All right. I'm sorry for you guys on Rumble. I'm going to have to start this over again. Just bear with me. So basically, you have Stanfield Turner coming in as the DCI into this CIA, t…
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They try to manipulate, they being Shackley and Klein, who's going to serve as Stanfield Turner's deputy. And they first push off a guy by the name of Admiral Daniel Murphy, who we've come across in the past. And Turner knows too much about…
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He ends up firing the current deputy, Hank Nolte, and he wants to fire Shackley and Klein, but he's kind of waved off on doing that and takes all of his venom out on Nolke, which you spell his name K-N-O-C-H-E. Then Wisenberger and Loomis g…
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Halloween massacre that people talk about where almost a thousand CIA officers get the axe. Well, now you can see why, because they're basically all criminals. And he's Turner, to his credit, starts almost immediately in getting rid of all …
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He's the one that facilitated all the funds going to the Chilean operation to murder Allende. So by the summer of 1977, when Carlucci could be installed, Turner declared open war against the Directorate of Operations. He decided that both S…
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Turner reassigned both men to what he believed was meaningless jobs. Shackley's colleagues in the DO, the demotion was basically a body blow to a small, very close-knit group of covert operators. Although he could have retired, Shackley rem…
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Shackley did not leave the CIA for almost two more years, and what happened inside the CIA while he was still there was nothing short of remarkable. When Turner began to dig deeper, he learned that an internal CIA study had recommended 1,35…
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Bush had taken no action on it at all. In August 1977, Turner ordered the CIA to reduce the Directorate of Operations by 823 positions within two years. The DO sent out the cable firing 823 veteran case officers on Halloween. Inside the age…
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With the firings, the agency had a full-scale mutiny on its hands. Jimmy Carter had taken on a force he didn't understand. Turner's act fell on veterans of some of the most legendary operations. It seemed that Turner was deliberately destro…
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and wasn't really there to do any job that had anything to do with nuclear. Shackley now had a man at the top of American nuclear security. By the time of the Halloween massacre, Turner had issued a former letter of reprimand to Tom Clines.…
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That, folks, is money laundering. Can you give me the name of that real quick again? International. I had my hands full. International Research and Trade. I-R-T. Sure. When Stanford Turner made Frank Carlucci his deputy in February of 1978,…
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CIA memoirs, Secrecy and Democracy, quote, it wasn't long after Frank Carlucci arrived that he came to share my concerns. He told me he had come to perceive that running the CIA from the director's office was like operating a power plant fr…
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We decided that we were not really in charge of a single CIA, but of three separate organizations, covert, intelligence, and science and technology, all operating autonomously. Neither of us had seen anything like it, and Frank had served i…
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on anything, no matter what lever he pulled or pushed, because the power was being siphoned off from an outside organization. At this point, he was not aware of the private network and that it was growing by leaps and bounds. Turner quickly…
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In fairness to Turner, he had been appointed to the CIA with a presidential order from Jimmy Carter to clean up and reform it. Unfortunately, because neither man understood either the culture or the duplicity of the opposition, they were do…
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were doing on a daily basis. One of the efforts of the covert officers involved the disappearance of John Paisley. And you spell Paisley P-A-I-S-L-E-Y. After Paisley vanished, Turner's enemies in the DO fed him one piece of disinformation a…
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as if it was an open goodwill gesture. Rumors that Paisley had defected to the Soviet Union and the fact that the Office of Security had been looking at Paisley's loyalty before he disappeared came back to haunt Turner. He looked foolish in…
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Tom hated Turner. Tom Clines. I know that Tom is one who sent Turner a cassette of Randy Newman's song, Short People, after Turner had all of the podiums cut down at the CIA because Turner was short. These guys are assassinating people all …
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Turner put out a notice that if he found out who it was, he would fire them. Brill said, I know that Tom did it. The immediate reason for Klein's bitterness came after he was removed from his old DO post. And he was actually the liaison at …
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Shackley felt that this would get Klein's out of harm's way, but Turner ordered it canceled. Despite the circumstances of Shackley and Klein's departure from the CIA, Shackley still talked about wanting to be the DCI. Brill said both men ta…
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quote-unquote security program. Carter had ordered Turner to cut Somoza off from all intelligence and CIA operations because of his dismal human rights, because he had death squads. According to Wilson, Klein said to him, quote, we can feed…
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they had helped orchestrate on President Carter, began to take effect. Within the CIA, Shackley was seen by the disenfranchised and disheartened case officers as their natural leader. This status gave him plenty of room to operate, and supp…
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Shackley used the Safari Club basically to pass himself off as the new James Angleton. And remember that Angleton covered both the Vatican desk and the Israeli Mossad desk, which is very interesting in and of itself, if you think about it f…
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Late in 1978 was the crucial time in the Carter administration when Carter had staked a great deal of his credibility on the peace accord between Egypt and Israel. But in spite of the vast support for such a treaty, the American Jewish comm…
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In the end, Turner had no reliable sources of information on the increasingly volatile situation in Iran. President Carter had no way of knowing how badly the situation had deteriorated since he and his wife had attended the 2000th annivers…
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to install a dictator and walk away. They maintain the involvement and already have picked out the next stooge that they're going to install in the government. Turner and Carter were surprised almost on a daily basis with darker news from I…
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Inman, now headed the NSA. And every wire transfer in the world was picked up by the NSA. When a key word or phrase appeared, that document showed up. Like Shackley, Inman had high hopes of becoming the next CIA director. Inman had confided…
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not inclined to take advice anyway, had few places to turn. He and his CIA director had so offended the national security establishment that virtually everyone wanted them removed from office. That sounds like Trump. They were not going to …
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that a major ongoing CIA operation in Indonesia was kept totally secret from both Carter and Turner. What they were not told was outrageous. They, Carter and Turner, were simply not on the need-to-know list. They didn't tell Carter what the…
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Quote, these men would betray a comrade in arms in the name of policy. To betray a sitting president they did not particularly like was in many ways for them a much lesser matter, unquote. Shackley was prepared to use every resource, every …
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Nice headphones. But on the issue of Gladio, though, there's a great story about one of the more reformist CIA directors, Stan Phil Turner, who fired a bunch of the dirtiest people and is hated. There's obviously a different kind of backsto…
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he was on Italian TV, and they asked him about Gladio, and he immediately said, like, fuck you, and stormed out of the interview. Oh, now, we just covered Stanfield Turner and Jimmy Carter and the Halloween Massacre and all of that. I have …
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probably made this point before on a kind of highly repetitive, that Nelson Rockefeller handled, well, we know he handled all South American intelligence during World War II under something called the CIA, as outlined in Thy Will Be Done, t…
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Argentina integrated at the UN conference in 1945. And Colby and I think a few other folks point out it was Nelson Rockefeller who really handled that diplomatically dicey situation because all sorts of dust from under the rug could have go…
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He just didn't fit in, unquote. Corson says when you don't fit in, it means the clandestine services people don't think you fit in. Casey's OSS history made him acceptable to the CIA, but Hoogle was another matter. Casey, like Stanford Turn…
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for a variety of reasons, the most important having to do with the Middle East geopolitical chessboard at the time. They wanted a real born-again Christian whose strong sympathies lay with the Christian communities throughout the Middle Eas…
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The danger was that other areas would then be included in presidential findings. As in many times during the years of the White House, President Carter was frustrated with his first selection as the director of intel. He originally chose Th…
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a naval officer who had held top commands in Italy. Turner and the president were classmates from Annapolis. Though forced by regulations to retire from the Navy in order to accept Carter's offer, Turner took the DCI job and went to Langley…
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As a result of budget limits. It had much more to do than budget limits because basically he fired the entire covert action area. And that's something that obviously this author is not interested in actually depicting that for what it reall…
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the Halloween massacre and largely gutted the covert operations. So the book goes on and talks a little bit about the Halloween massacre. And it says still Turner strongly resisted any suggestion that he needed to notify Congress ahead of t…
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Student radicals had taken over the U.S. embassy in Tehran, and he got a phone call. Outside Washington, another middle-of-the-night phone call awakened the director of the CIA, Admiral Stansfield Turner. The CIA duty officer informed him t…
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Brzezinski began holding daily sessions at the top level. Both he and President Carter kept close tabs on it. Admiral Turner began every meeting by briefing the intelligence, then turned to the diplomatic and any coercive action to be taken…
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stayed behind after the sessions and realized that there were private conversations about what must be a rescue plan. Returning to his office at the CIA, Turner called Brzezinski, angrily objecting to being left out of the rescue planning, …
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They escaped and eventually turned up at agency headquarters where Hart became the branch chief for Iran in the Near East Division. Admiral Stansfield Turner, director of the CIA under Carter, had a different headache. In the form of six ot…
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for the CIA, even as Ambassador Taylor and other brave Canadian diplomats hid the Americans in their homes. The Canadian offered to help them escape. In mid-December, Turner approved participation by a graphics and authentication branch of …
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1980. To preclude reprisals, Ambassador Taylor left too. As final preparations for the escape proceeded, Admiral Turner reviewed the main rescue plan. Based upon seizing an airfield where helicopters would be refueled before heading into Te…
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claims credit for the CIA in involving the final rescue concept. Special operations experts advise simply landing in the Iranian desert to establish a refueling site and launching Rice Bowl from there. Chuck Gilbert, a CIA aviation expert w…
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Intelligence remained a striking sticking point, you know, because we don't spend billions of dollars on it. Special Operation veterans of Eagle Claw condemned the intelligence as inferior and Turner as having lukewarm, being lukewarm at be…
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Meadows became involved in the planning just a few days after the embassy seizure when Beckwith sent him to Washington. A legendary special forces figure in Korea and Vietnam, Meadows now struck the CIA as an amateur with insufficient suppo…
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a manifestation of distrust of the CIA, relented when Meadows threatened to go away. Strictly speaking, the Meadows mission was an egregious security error. He possessed detailed knowledge of the Eagle Claw plan, but Delta's previous lead c…
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These were created by the CIA at the behest of Chuck Gilbert. At least three times, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General David Jones, Admiral Turner, and Security Advisor Brzezinski appealed to Carter to approve the mission. A…
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Carter preferred to await diplomatic developments, but new preparations were necessary. Stanford Turner had pressed for permission to make Desert One reconnaissance since January. Carter then approved it, the reconnaissance mission to get t…
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And so but the other thing that this really reminded me of was, you know, the preparations for Bay of Pigs and how I'm very curious. I'd be very curious to read more about Turner's, you know, perceptions of this, these goings on at the time…
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Just do a blanket one, then you can't be held accountable. As in many matters during the years in the White House, Carter was frustrated in his first choice of CIA Director Theodore Sorensen. Carter's nominee had to withdraw when his nomina…
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Turner and Carter had been classmates at Annapolis. Although regulations forced him to retire from the Navy to accept the offer, Turner took the DCI job. Despite being able, Turner was an outsider to Langley and remained unpopular. He gaine…
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cadre of mostly former intelligence officer or naval officers as his inner staff one rusty williams did a global evaluation for the directorate of operations visiting stations poking into all manner of things the rumor mill buzzed with accu…
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face basically justifying their existence. When the director asked Bill Wells what ought to be done, the deputy director of operations did not oppose reductions. Admiral Turner quickly cut back planned staff reductions by more than a third.…
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while more than 800 staff slots were dropped. The CIA director insisted there was almost entirely at the headquarters. Some sources report a quarter were in the field. Turner said there was none in the field. And then the remainder were sup…
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to the strength in the mid-60s at 5,500. There was actually more reductions under Schlesinger and Colby, but the handling of the cutbacks were abysmal. Turner allowed himself to be convinced that the CIA would avoid legal liability by simpl…
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Retirements were dictated by edict. Personnel officers went through their files and called the oldest and the bottom 5% performers. The latter by taking the lowest ranked officers within their grade. The old hands were the most numerous. 92…
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with the most experience and usually at least one language. Some young officers were also part of the cut. At least one, dismissed from the European station, hired Mitchell Rogovin back in private practice, showed that his rankings had been…
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In experience at Langley, the admiral did not know he had been set up. Turner's strategy gained the CIA director no friends and alienated the clandestine service. President Carter could not miss the torrent of complaints reflected in media …
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That did not stop officers from blaming him. Many would agree that the DO's Floyd Paceman, who writes, quote, our collection capacity was decimated, unquote. Turner would argue it had been improved. Some sided with him. Tom Gilligan, who ha…
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evenly from the top and bottom, made more sense than any plan before. Turner himself believes that he should have done the same as George Bush. Nothing. Just pass on the problem. The cutback issue played out over years. So did an unsavory s…
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all over the world using a fake company. And of course, that infringed upon the CIA's jurisdiction. And I believe that it was kind of a retribution attempt at Turner and Carter. The Wilson scandal added to criticisms of the Admiral, who fel…
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Hank knock and discipline Ted Shackley, a Wilson associate, as well as fire a couple of other officers. He stepped in it. Then there was the denouncement of the Helm affair. Admiral Turner found Helms very defensive when they met. Little wo…
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Carter took office. They loved doing that. Helms was told he was a target of the inquiry. The secret document issued persisted until the fall of 77. The CIA had turned over 60 documents to justice, but they could not be given to the grand j…
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That November, Helms pleaded no contest to two counts of perjury. Declared guilty, he received a suspended sentence and a fine collected from former comrades in cash donations one afternoon at a country club lunch. In other words, they used…
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due to Helms actually facing justice for lying. Imagine that. One little shred of justice and its immediate attacks on the CIA director who is viewed by the cadre as responsible for metering out a small ounce of justice.…
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And Richard Helms was guilty of so many things, to include lying. It is to Director Turner's credit that he persisted and did what he could to make the community more responsible. In the DO, Turner brought forward John McMahon, whose backgr…
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had him replace Bill Wells. Everywhere Turner sought to manage the colossus giant, clandestine service officer, DeWayne Claridge, never slow to criticize weakness, credits Turner while trying to transform the director of operations into the…
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as Deputy Director of Operations, played his own part, among other things, reinvigorating field training for ops officers at Camp Perry and personally selecting graduates' assignments. Admiral Turner conceded in a later interview that he ha…
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CIA director recalled, quote, being confident that the organization was not out of control was not the same as feeling that it was adequately under control. Unquote. Very well said, Admiral. As the congressional oversight, Stansfield Turner…
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felt it was a positive benefit to the CIA, a view decidedly unconventional at the time. He strongly resisted prior notification of covert operations to Congress. He also advocated restricting reporting to the intelligence committees and ado…
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successively as CIA analyst, special assistant to Turner, and NSC staff director for intelligence. Robert Gates dealt with both Brzezinski and his deputy, David Aaron. He recalls, quote, the most frequent criticism of the CIA that I heard w…
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across all of Latin America, which was like writing them a blank check. Turner wanted the capability in reserve and wished to avoid squandering it on insignificant moves. He preferred highly directed operations, such as the one mounted in E…
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Elite commando units, Blue Light and Delta. These initiatives received personal attention from Brzezinski. The third development was the fall of the Shah of Iran. What followed in its wake? Policymakers and intelligence analysts either refu…
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Americans out of their embassy in Tehran, Director Turner gave no prior notice to the intelligence committees who were briefed hours after the Americans were out of the country. The pushing at the envelope of newly established congressional…
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excuse me, Latin America. So we're going to find Cubans everywhere. Nestor Sanchez, then Latin America division chief at the CIA, proceeded without haste, trying to expose or create a connection of the Sandinistas to Cuba. Stansfield Turner…
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from his brother that his father had passed away. So Webster established himself at Langley. And again, like Admiral Turner under Carter, Webster had brought with him an entire inner circle from the FBI. Isn't that interesting? So because h…
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especially during this timeframe. In the 1970s, he headed the CIA in Belgrade and then was promoted to the Director of Operations, Western European Division. Stoltz had been considered by Turner to be a deputy director, but he chose instead…
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So I found it very, very interesting. Renee, go ahead. Hey there. Sorry for the last minute. I'm driving and I kept getting kicked out and losing signal. And then finally, I just got a strong signal. Wanted to ask, I'm pretty sure you've br…
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In the post-Watergate era, numerous high-ranking military and intelligence officers were purged from the government. The CIA was especially hit hard. In 1974, more than 12,000 senior officials were made to retire by Director James Schlesing…
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Turner came down especially hard on the clandestine covert operations, which is basically where all of them came from, because Jimmy Carter wanted to get rid of that capability. In 1977, he ordered 823 positions slashed called the Halloween…
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regardless of how many people in your own country, your own citizens that you killed. Pains me to say that, but that is just simply fact at this point. So he points out that one of Reagan's first actions was to get rid of Admiral Stansfield…
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the Italian election interference, which followed a large P2 contribution to Nixon's CREEP, Committee for Re-Election Fund, and Nixon's resignation following Watergate. The dealings of the CIA came under intensive scrutiny by the Carter adm…
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running for a very long time. But during this phase of the operation, in most books, it's referred to as the Enterprise. So he talks about William Casey having taken over from Admiral Stanford Turner, Stanfield Turner, as the DCI.…
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Some members of Congress grumbled that the CIA needed to be reined in, but the bastards aren't going to do it. Shackley had once dreamed of becoming the CIA director, but as the agency went under greater scrutiny, his chances were vanished.…
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Shackley always liked to be at the center of world events and would eventually find his way back in in a manner certain to cause enormous mayhem. And then he goes in and he talks about the Jimmy Carter, how him and Stanford Turner turned th…
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There's a couple of quotes here. I don't want to read as much of this part because we've already covered this a lot. But there is a quote here that says Stanford Turner, who had taken over the director of CIA only five weeks earlier, could …
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The dark days of Admiral Turner were over, unquote. And Shackley was going to once again be at the top of the spear of the new administration. Quote, before his fellow ex-fives, Shackley read a paper on paramilitary covert actions in the 19…
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There's a cadre of corrupt people in the CIA. They obviously had to have a leader. They're never going to let anybody in the CIA. And I mean, Stanford Turner is probably the only guy in the history of the CIA that was not handpicked by the …
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to be in charge of the CIA. And he was the guy that fired the almost a thousand person within a few months that same year that Carter took over. And then the following year, he fired a whole bunch more. That's as close as anyone has ever ca…
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not controlling the CIA. It's much too critical to their operation. So it's best to think of it as a cadre within the official CIA that manages the covert side of the CIA. And all of those fired CIA agents during the Carter administration w…