Operation Gladio-Vietnam Phoenix Program part 2

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0:00 All right, they're already messing with your mic, cousin. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Yep, she's got it. She's prepared for it. I know, but her mic isn't showing now. Oh, there it is. Well. I think she's probably muting her headset instead of muting her mic, is my guess. Okay. Oh, she's getting fancy on us with a headset. Are you there, cousin?

0:44 Can you talk to it? Oh, my God. Yeah, one of them days. Nope, can't hear you. Nope. I dropped her down. I'm going to try it again. Where'd she go? What the heck? What happened? You accidentally blocked her. Hang on. How do you block somebody? You can remove somebody from the space.

1:32 And when you do that, it, like, blocks them from coming back in. Oh, it says nobody was removed. Yeah, I just re-edited her back. Oh. We got this. We got this. Ain't nothing they can throw our way that we can't handle. Right? Yeah. I'll go with you on that. Hang on. All right. So, if you guys can reshare the space real quick.

2:09 I am going to get back to my place. Wait, can I? Okay. Cousin and I were talking earlier today. And one of the things while you're getting ready, I was just going to add is that about how, you know, a lot of people discuss the chemtrails and a lot of people don't know if they believe or don't believe on the chemtrails and all these different things. And I just wanted to mention.

2:40 In Vietnam, there have been declassified documents that the government admits they seeded the clouds in order to produce rain so that they would flood all of the tunnels that the colonel pointed out early on during going through Vietnam. So they're not, I mean, that was 1960 something. Do you have any of the stuff that you can put in the pill?

3:10 I am going to try. I just walked in the house, so I'm going to definitely try. But I do have the classified documents are readily available and easy to find for that. Yeah. I like to have them when we say that. Oh, definitely. Yeah. No, that's not a problem. That's not a problem at all. All right. So I'm going to, while we're waiting for everybody to get in here.

3:39 I'm going to read this letter and I'm going to ask you guys to all go follow at M-A-G-A-M-A-G-A-D-I-1776. Her name is Diane Campbell. And if you wouldn't mind, Bridget, just post her handle there.

4:11 At Maga Dye 1776. I'm going to read this letter. She says, we have met twice, once at Cocoa Beach Guard and the other at the first Florida Badlands get-together. And says, if you remember me, it will be because of our spirited conversation of Mustang versus Camaro, dot, dot, dot. Mustang won, of course, which it did not.

4:43 Um, everybody knows Camaro is better than Mustang. Uh, and then she goes on the work you and your team are doing around Gladio awareness has been a massive effort and I wanted to honor and help spread the word about your work. I hope the gift Steve and Joni delivers will show in some small part how much the GART five attendees appreciated you and your team. The glasses were given for free and any contributors.

5:13 folks wanted to make any contribution folks wanted to make would go to your team it was a great experience talking to guard attendees a few hadn't discovered gladio yet most folks expressed appreciation for being able to directly contribute and raved about the interviews with alpha and others i did ask folks to take a selfie wearing the glasses and tag you in it on x i hope you see them

5:42 follow through, which I did. Several people tagged me in their photos during the GART meeting. I personally want to thank you and your team. I hope the cash and glasses, which she gave a friend of mine that had attended that, the leftover glasses to bring home. And I will post the picture of my husband and I and General Quast and his wife, Joni, wearing them.

6:10 We met for breakfast yesterday morning and they're the ones that gave me all this stuff. Help to show just a glimpse of what you mean to our community. Thank you and God bless. So I'm overwhelmed with gratitude. And it is amazing that someone took the initiative to do that.

6:39 Again, I'm just totally humbled by it. So I want to give her the recognition that she deserves. And let me see if I can. Can you hear me? Yes, I can. Oh, praise God. Okay, I got to get this out of my system. What in the bloody fuck has been going on with water? Seriously. I don't know. Yeah, this is no bueno.

7:10 Okay, I'm sorry. Okay, carry on. Yes, I'm sorry. I caught the tail end of the letter. And I didn't get a chance to comment yesterday because my mic was hijacked, apparently. But yes, that was very nice of people. Thank you so much for doing that out at the GARD convention. It was really quite touching. And I personally want to thank everyone as well. So thank you very much.

7:41 And I posted her a link to her account in above us. Awesome. Thank you. And I posted the picture. So everybody needs to go to the pill, share the picture. That's so cute. Yeah. Just very nice. Yeah. Very humbling. Okay. Now back to work. So we talked.

8:14 Over the last few days about Vietnam and the amazing similarities. And it's funny, even when I'm out doing yard work or whatever, I have a chronology of what we went through with Korea running side by side with the chronology of what happened in Vietnam. And there's so many striking similarities. It's not even funny.

8:42 Not to mention the similarities in many other countries, but just those two at the very beginning of all of the different coups and overthrows of government and all of that stuff were just so consistent as far as a methodology on how to control slash overthrow a government.

9:12 And so I think when we get done with Vietnam, we will spend at least one session going back over the similarities. Vietnam has an island that they created a prison on, basically just like they did in Korea. Again, just so much. The same thing, they went in saying that they were going to have a unified election. They didn't.

9:39 And in every case, it was the U.S. government finagling around that derailed everything. And I also put Operation Popeye, that cloud seeding, and I put the link up in that pill also. Okay. Thank you. So back to the Phoenix program.

10:10 Doug Valentine sat down with a guy that had been part of one of the hit squads and he recounted to him a horrifying story of when Doug asked him, what do you remember about your tour in Vietnam? He told him that it was his last mission that kind of sealed the deal for him. And he asked him to tell him about.

10:39 what his last mission was and he was sent to a very small village and the very small village had a chief that was in charge of the village and he lived in a house with two daughters and there was a gun that was about 50 yards outside of the village gate that kept shooting at the aircraft overhead and there was somebody

11:08 This guy, this village chief guy that would run out and use the gun and then come back into the village. And so they sent a team up and that team observed him doing that. And so then they would normally send back a 12 to 25 person team to go back and destroy the gun and take the chief out. Well, in this case, they only sent the four scouts that had been.

11:37 on the scouting mission back to do the assassination mission and when they went into the the village that night and he goes into a lot of details i'm skipping a lot um they dressed up in black um you know pajamas they call them and they blackened their face and they had to like uh crawl through um

12:06 the grass up because there was like a opening and the whole thing about them being mined and you had to use grass blades because they wouldn't trip the wire but you would be able to feel it move on your face so you knew not to go forward that type of thing so they get into the village they get the gun destroyed the guy that was assigned to do the assassination

12:37 went in to kill the chief, but there were other people sleeping in that hut, and he killed the wrong people. So he goes back, and he climbs up on these crates. He puts a grenade between his legs, and he tells the people there that he works for that if they don't send him home,

13:07 He's going to blow them all up. And so, of course, he's taken out of there. He's lucky he didn't die. And because in a lot of cases, people like that, when they crack, they kill them in a quote unquote accident. So anyway, this this kid says that.

13:38 He was involved in a thing called O-Plan 34. This was basically what they referred to as a Leaping Lena, L-E-N-A, infiltration program for long-range reconnaissance patrol that had been happening in Laos as well. And it was basically a well-known Delta program, Delta being Delta Force, special ops.

14:07 before Phoenix. It was like the precursor to Phoenix. And it says their primary function was intelligence gathering, but we also carried out undermining of the infrastructure types of things with kidnapping, assassination, and sabotage. And by infrastructure, they're talking about people. It says that

14:37 was the point at which many of us realized we were no longer the good guys in white hats defending freedom. We were the assassins. And it says, Doug says that he spent the better part of four years gathering all this information because most of the participants were required to sign non-disclosure statements and were never allowed to talk about some of the things they did.

15:07 For example, this guy, his name was Elton Manzoni, M-A-N-Z-I-O-N-E. When Doug met him, he was telling Doug they basically erased his entire history of him even being in Vietnam. And in many cases, these people that were on these hit squads would have evaluations saying they were a cook or...

15:37 They were a logistics guy or they were this or they were that. None of them actually describes what they did because personally or professionally they can't because most of this stuff was denied until many of the documents came out through FOIA or declassification efforts. So not only did these people get totally screwed up psychologically, in many cases,

16:06 There's no way for them to prove anything that they know to be true because the government erased it all. So you can imagine where in order to get veterans benefits, you have to prove that you were someplace. And then these people's records have been whitewashed and they have no ability to prove that either the psychological trauma or physical.

16:34 trauma I mean because they were all exposed exposed to agent orange and all this other crap how do they do that if it doesn't even the record doesn't even say they were there so that was the problem this guy was having and he ended up having to hire an attorney um and Doug also talked to his attorney um about some of the things so and

17:00 At least in the good side of this, Doug's father had some of the exact same things happen to him while he was in Vietnam as far as his record being changed and things being altered. So he knew firsthand that this was happening, which led him to believe when the guy told him some of the details and some of the names for Doug to be able to collaborate what he was saying was true.

17:27 So developed in 1967 by the CIA, Phoenix combined existing counterinsurgency programs in a concerted effort to, quote unquote, neutralize the Viet Cong infrastructure. The euphemism for neutralize means to kill, capture or make defective. And their definition of infrastructure refers to civilians.

17:54 suspected of supporting North Vietnamese or Viet Cong soldiers like the ones targeted by Elton in his final operation. Targeting civilians is against Geneva Convention, and they did it anyway. Under Phoenix, the due process was nonexistent. Civilians whose names appeared on lists could be kidnapped, tortured, detained for two years without trial, or even murdered.

18:23 all on the word of an anonymous informer. Now, as I go through this Phoenix program, I want every one of you to put your thinking caps on, and I want you to think of things that has happened in the last 15 years, 20 years, since 9-11 in this country, because there is a gross parallel. South Vietnamese civilians, whose names appear, oh, excuse me,

18:54 Can't keep track of my own notes. Abuses by corrupt security officers, policemen, politicians, and racketeers, all of whom extorted innocent civilians, as well as the Viet Minh. Legendary CIA officer Lucien Koenig, which is the French guy, described Phoenix as, quote, a very good blackmail scheme for the central government. If you don't do what I want.

19:25 You're labeled a Viet Cong, unquote. Sound familiar? Because Phoenix neutralizations were often conducted at midnight while their victims were home sleeping in bed. Sound familiar? Phoenix proponents described the program as a scalpel designed to replace the bludgeon of airstrikes and artillery barrages that indiscriminately walked.

19:55 wiped out entire villages. And basically Phoenix was used as an instrument of counter terror, the psychological warfare tactic in which members were brutally murdered along with their families so that their neighbors could see it in a way of terrorizing the entire neighborhood or village to increase the submission rate of them obeying.

20:26 the government. They were used for propaganda purposes, often to make it look as if they were committed by the enemy. Sound familiar? The American people gradually has lost touch with democratic ideals and this slow erosion of this political warfare that is being waged against us today and the Vietnamese before.

20:57 And the Koreans before them is all on purpose. So I want to, let's see, I need to get out of that real quick. Bridget, I'm going to send you two maps. If you can post them. I just got home. Sorry about that, guys. I would have normally got this to her already.

21:31 And let's see. All right. So one of the maps is a map like we've seen before that shows South Vietnam, North Vietnam, and where the DMZ is, the 17th parallel. It shows you in relationship to that where Laos is in the Plain of Jars, where China, Burma is, Thailand, Cambodia. And so you can just kind of see.

22:01 where everything is and where the Gulf of Tonkin is. And keep in mind the Gulf of Tonkin up there where it says Hanoi, east of Hanoi is where the Nifong Harbor is, which is where they did that boat lift of all of those million people out of the north. And then the next one is very interesting because

22:30 You can see here how they had South Vietnam divided up into First Corps, Second Corps, Third Corps, and Fourth Corps for operational mission and oversight. So, and these are the provinces that we'll be talking about. Okay, so they use the term.

23:01 vci and what is vci it basically um is a farmer in a field with a hoe and um a grenade in his pocket a deranged subversion using um women and children as a shield question mark or was it a patriot a freedom fighter

23:33 who was driven underground by corrupt collaborators and an oppressive foreign occupation army. So Doug is asking you the question that has always come up in these Operation Gladio things. You have freedom fighters on one hand that are trying to get foreigners out of their country.

24:04 And the labeling psychologically that is done to those patriotic people of that country for demonization of it by the CIA actors on behalf of their corporate sponsors is to label those people a name, whatever that name is. And they change, you know, from time to time, like in Nicaragua, they call them the Sandinistas.

24:32 then by labeling them and associating communism with them, they are able to indiscriminately kill them at will. So hold on a second. I'm going to resend those because I don't think they sent from my iPad. Okay. So director of CIA, William Colby, defined the VCI as about 75,000. Wrap your head around that.

25:07 75,000 Southerners, meaning in South Vietnam, who in 1954, quote, the communists took North for training in organizing propaganda and subversion, unquote. According to Colby, these cadres returned to the South, revived the networks that they had left in 1954, and over several years formed a...

25:37 entity called the National Liberation Front, the People's Revolutionary Party liberation committees, which were, quote-unquote, pretended local governments rather than simply political bodies, and pretended provisional revolutionary governments of South Vietnam. Colby went on to say, together, all of these organizations and their local manifestation

26:07 made up the Viet Cong infrastructure, which is VCI. That's what it stands for. Also, it's interesting that he used the word pretended because it basically distorts the entire nature of what these people were doing. And to understand Phoenix and who they were actually...

26:41 killing, you have to actually understand a little bit about the history of this and how it all came about. And we went over some of this, but this guy does a really good job in a very brief way. So I'm going to go ahead and highlight some of his points because it adds to what we've already talked about.

27:06 The French conquest of Vietnam began in the 17th century with the arrival of the Jesuit priests bent on saving quote-unquote pagan souls. French religious leaders and their business backers formed the Society of French Missionaries to Advance Christianity in Asia. In the same year, by no coincidence, French business leaders and their religious backers created the East Indies Company. Not East India, sorry, Company.

27:35 Now, isn't that interesting that they sent their quote-unquote missionaries out from the Jesuit faction of the Catholic Church the same year they created their trade company? I find that very interesting. So it was unclear whether they were there for trade or religion. And for the next two centuries,

28:08 200 years. French priests embroiled themselves in Vietnamese politics, eventually providing a pretext for military invention. And I'll be damned if that doesn't sound like what they did in Hawaii with all of those Protestant preachers that all went and camped out on Hawaii to save all of those pagan souls and then created sugar companies and deposed their queen. Almost identical.

28:38 A French priest was arrested for plotting against the emperor in Vietnam in 1845. A French Navy shelled Da Nang City, killing hundreds of people, even though the priest had escaped unharmed. So they arrested a priest who they believed was doing something wrong. And the French Navy kills a few hundred people, even though nothing happened to the priest.

29:08 The Vietnamese responded by confiscating the property of the French Catholics. They drowned a few Jesuits as a result of the hundreds of them being murdered and did a few other horrible things to the Catholic people, the priests that were there, in retribution for them bombing Da Nang City.

29:40 Do you see how this happens? First of all, if you weren't there, this wouldn't have happened. Isn't that what your parents used to tell you? That had never happened if you hadn't went there. And secondly, a country that is a sovereign nation, if they arrest somebody in their country that's a foreigner and that arrest leads to that foreigner's home country coming and attacking that country.

30:12 then you've basically declared war on that country and all bets are off at that point. But you can see how all the shit gets played in the press outside of what we just described happened. It would be an attack on religion, right? Because they, but it was the actual church that is there exploiting these local people. So soon it.

30:42 resulted in open warfare between the French and the Vietnamese. And by 1859, French foreign legionnaires had arrived in mass and had established fortified positions in major cities, which they defended against poorly armed nationalists staging hit-and-run attacks around these fortified installations. In 1861, a French admiral claimed Saigon for France.

31:11 inflicting heavy casualties on the Vietnamese who resisted. Fearing that rampaging French might massacre the entire city, the emperor abrogated ownership of three provinces adjacent to Saigon, along with Can Son Island, where the French immediately built a prison for the people they were about to arrest.

31:35 Vietnamese ports were open to European commerce. Catholic priests were permitted to preach wherever Buddhist and Taoist or Confucian souls were lurking in the darkness. And France was guaranteed unconditional control over all of Indochina. In 1862, French colonists were reaping sufficient economic benefits to hire, and this is where it gets really crazy.

32:06 Filipino and Chinese mercenary armies to help suppress the insurgency of the indigenous Vietnamese. Resistance to French occupation was strongest in the area in the north, where the nationalists had aligned with the anti-Western Chinese, which is not Chiang Kai-shek. Boundary lines having been drawn.

32:36 The pacification of Vietnam began in earnest in 1883. As many nationalists as could be found were rounded up, and the French imported guillotines in order to behead them. The imperial city of Hue, H-U-E, was plundered, and basically they were just on a rampant killing streak.

33:07 and stole everything that they could find. The French disbanded the Emperor's Council of Mandarins and replaced it with French advisors in a bureaucracy, um, staffed by, this is a French word, but it's, it's, um, sublif, S-U-P-P-L-E-T-I-F-S, um, which are basically self-serving Vietnamese. That's what it translates into. Um, they were all Catholic.

33:37 And they collaborated in exchange for power in high up positions. So this is the bourgeois elite that we have discovered in all of these countries that the foreigners cultivate as their overseers. And they corrupt that elite level to do their bidding.

34:10 So they were actually in many cases taken out of Vietnam temporarily and educated in France. They created like military academies and educated them there. So basically they became what Doug refers to as French lackeys. Foreign legionnaires were shifted.

34:40 to the outer perimeter of the pacified zones, and internal security was turned over to the collaborators, basically, that they're creating. And these bourgeois elite were also installed in the police and security forces where they managed prostitution rings, opium trade, and gambling casinos on behalf of the French. That sounds a lot like Cuba to me.

35:10 Pre-Castro. From the 1880s onward, no legal protection existed for nationalists. They were all, if you were found to be a nationalist, they were sent to dungeons in Khonsong prison, tortured and killed. So basically, the nationalists turned to terrorism.

35:43 Kind of like the hit and run type of attack because they weren't going to give up. The first nationalists, the founding fathers of the VCI, appeared in 1859 in an area called Ka Mau Peninsula, the Plain of Reeds. They were malaria-infested swamps which were inaccessible to French forces simply because they wouldn't go there. Here the nationalists...

36:12 trained in guerrilla tactics to do hit and runs in order to be a pain in the butt to the French to get them to leave. It was referred to as selective terrorism. And they decided that they were going to aim at anybody that had been touched and submitted to the French. So basically, they were penalizing the people who submitted.

36:42 without a fight to the invaders. And primarily that ended up being educated people or police people because the police people had all been trained by the French and the teachers and stuff like that had all been trained by the French as well. So that's who they took aim at. And you know what's weird about that? That's exactly what happened in Cambodia. Pol Pot's tactic was,

37:13 killing all of the educated people first. So I see a striking similarity between what happened there and what these people are referring to here. Because their expectation culturally was you resist until you die. You never give in to foreigners or invaders. And if you did and you took the comfy life, then you were as bad as the enemy. And culturally, that's the way these people think.

37:46 Killing high-ranking counterinsurgency officials served no purpose to these people at all because while they were a problem, they weren't traitors to their own country. So these people thought that the traitors were worse than the invaders. Following World War I, Vietnamese nationalists organized in one of three ways. Through religious sects, like two of them was named.

38:17 Khoi Ha, and another one is Khoi De, which secretly served as fronts for anti-French activity through over-political parties like the De Viettes or the Vietnam Khoc Don Dang. All formed secret cells in the areas where they operated in order to plan

38:48 attacks against the French. In return, the French intel services hired secret agents and informers to identify who all of them were. When one of the organizations, the Vietnam Quoc Don Dang sailors mutinied in 1932 and killed their French officers, the French retaliated.

39:19 by bombing scores of their villages, killing more than 30,000 people. Mass deportations followed, and many of the Vietnam Quat Dang cadre were driven into exile. So the French ran them out of their own country. The rest were arrested and imprisoned.

39:51 Basically, all they're doing by doing this is increasing the amount of people that hate them. So the VCI leadership was molded in the Kangsang prison as they're imprisoning all of these people. And the locals called that prison where they were putting all the nationalists Ho Chi Minh University. That's what they called it.

40:21 because they planned the overthrow of the French while they were in prison because they weren't going to surrender. They had the ability there to hone their skills at detecting spies and agent provocateurs who the French planted in prisons to try to figure out who they were and what they were planning. And in 1941, the communist son of a Mandarin, Ho Chi Minh,

40:53 gathered the various nationalist groups under the banner of Viet Minh and called for all good revolutionaries to stand up and unite with the people and throw out the Japanese and the French. Leading the charge was General Guyop, which we talked about before, and his first armed propaganda detachment, 34 lightly armed men and women, who by early 1945 had overran two French outposts.

41:22 and were preaching the gospel according to Ho to anyone interested in independence. Viet Minh held six provinces near Hanoi and was working with the forerunner to the CIA, the OSS, recovering downed pilots as a part of 14th Air Force. A student of American democracy, Ho, declared Vietnam an independent country in September 1945.

41:50 However, as we know now, the OSS officers got outvoted and the U.S. decided to get in bed with the French. The big three powers at Potsdam divided Vietnam along the 16th parallel. Chinese forces aligned with General Chiang Kai-shek and the KMT Army was given control of the north, while the Chinese forces advised by General Philip Gallagher arrived in Hanoi.

42:18 They plundered the city and disarmed the Japanese. The French then returned to Hanoi and drove out the Viet Minh and displaced Chiang Kai-shek's forces, which they then went to Shanghai temporarily. And this is when you get Lord Monbatten in the south, and you want a really, really weird coincidence.

42:45 Guess what his emblem for his command patch was? A phoenix, hence the phoenix program. The British were put in charge of the South. 20,000 Gurkhas arrived in Saigon and proceeded to disarm the Japanese. The British then outlawed Ho's Committee of the South and arrested its members. So the British comes in and starts arresting.

43:17 local Vietnamese, so they can reinstall the French. In protest, the Vietnamese held a general strike. On September 23rd, the British, buckling under the weight of the white man's burden, released from prison all of the French legionnaires who had collaborated with the Nazis during the occupation and had administered Vietnam jointly with the Japanese.

43:46 So as they were trying to drive out the Japanese, all of their collaborators had been imprisoned. And so the British unleashes them all on the native population. The legionnaires rampaged through Saigon, murdering Vietnamese with impunity while the British looked on. As soon as they had regained control of the city, the French reorganized their secret police.

44:13 donned surplus U.S. uniforms and became the nucleus of three divisions which had reconquered the South by the end of the year. That allowed the British to exit, and boom, you have the Bao De, who was the former emperor back in charge, who is a French puppet. By 1946, the Viet Minh were at war with France once again out of the North.

44:41 and the French were up to their old tricks with a vengeance. The French shelled Haiphong Harbor, killing 6,000 Vietnamese, and Ho slipped underground, and American officials passively observed while the French conducted punitive missions. During the First Indochina War, CIA officers served pretty much in the same capacity, urging the French to form counter-guerrilla groups and go after Viet Minh.

45:10 and when the French ignored them, slipping off to buy contacts and agents in the military, government, and private sector. The outgunned Viet Minh, meanwhile, used protracted warfare, secret cells, and guerrilla units to attack the French. In 1948, the French could no longer protect their convoys from ambush nor locate Vietnamese bases. Fearful French citizens organized

45:40 Private paramilitary self-defense forces, that sounds familiar because that's exactly what happened in Colombia, and spy nets. And the French officers organized with CIA advice commando battalions to put down the Viet Minh. Reporting directly to the French Central Intelligence in Hanoi and supplied by night airdrops, French commandos targeted Viet Minh contact.

46:07 combat and intel organizations. And it said that they were working directly with U.S. Army Special Forces that had been sent there from Fort Bragg. By the 1950s, American soldiers were fighting alongside the French and the 350 U.S. Military Assistance and Advisory Group, a MAG, was in Saigon dispensing and accounting for

46:36 all kinds of weapons. Between 1950 and 54, the United States spent over $3 billion to fund the French insurgency in Vietnam. They, of course, call it a counterinsurgency, but they were the insurgency forces. That also included a $4 million a year retainer for the fake emperor, Bao De.

47:05 which of course he then just put into a Swiss bank account. In 1952, American advisors began training Vietnamese units. In December 53, an army attache unit arrived in Hanoi and its officers and enlisted men began interrogating Viet Minh prisoners. And this is in the North, they're doing this at this point. While Mag postured...

47:35 to take over the Vietnamese army from the French. The Special Technical and Economic Mission provided CIA officers under Station Chief Emmett McCarthy with the cover they needed to mount political operations and negotiate contracts with the government. Finally, in 54, after Viet Minh had defeated the French at Dinh Binh Phu, a truce was declared.

48:00 And at the Geneva Conference, Vietnam was divided along the 17th parallel, pending a nationwide election to be held in 1956. The French were to withdraw from the North and the Viet Minh from the South, where the U.S. was set to displace the French and install its own candidate, Ngo Dinh Dem, a Catholic Mandarin from Hue.

48:26 The CIA did this by organizing a cross-section of Vietnamese labor leaders and intellectuals and created the Personalist Labor Party. That was the party's name that they chose to put Dem in to pretend like he was actually a candidate. Kind of like what the DNC just did. Through an interlocking maze of clandestine cells present in the military, the police and the security forces

48:56 They were able to control that area. Nunn, a politician who was exiled by Dem in 1954, says about the Dem regime, quote, they persecuted those who did not accept their orders without discussion and tolerated or even encouraged their followers to take bribes because a corrupt servant.

49:27 must be loyal to them out of fear of punishment. To obtain an interesting position, one had to fulfill three D conditions. Dang, D-A-N-G, which was be a part of his party. Dao, which was the Catholic church, and Dai was the region from central Vietnam where he was originally from. So you had to be from his village.

50:00 If you did that, it says, from 1955 on, you were given all kinds of great deals. Dim did not issue from or have the support of any of the Buddhist community, which, by the way, was the largest majority in the country, especially in the South. And now you know why they had to import all them people.

50:29 He was, however, a nationalist whose anti-French reputation had enabled the U.S. to sell him as a plausible candidate. Dem arranged for Ken Lau, businessmen, and their American associates to get government contracts and commercial interests. They got concessions for all of the good stuff like Michelin rubber and all that other stuff. Opposed to Dem,

51:01 were the French and their elite society, as well as the Vietnamese mafia. Together with the Cao Dai religious sects, these groups formed the United Sect Front and conspired against the U.S. and its candidate, Dem. So by January 1954, it's a hot mess. That's when they imported Air Force Colonel Edward Lansdell.

51:31 who had been over in the Philippines assassinating people over there to install their fake president there. He was a confidential advisor to Alan Dulles and John Foster Dulles. Lansdale defeated the United Sec Front in the Philippines, so he became the perfect nominee to come and do that. And so it says, while the Viet Cong, as Lansdale,

52:05 So Lansdell is the one who coined the term Viet Cong as opposed to Viet Minh. So he did not. And it's all about labeling. OK, keep in mind, Lansdell is a PR guy from San Francisco. That's what he did before he went in the OSS. He is the quintessential CIA guy, even though he was posing as an Air Force officer. He was not. He was a CIA officer. And he knew.

52:36 that if you could find a disgusting term or you could make a term disgusting, like Viet Cong, then because at the time, Viet Minh were heroes throughout the entire peninsula. That was a unifying factor in Vietnam at the time because everybody respected the Viet Minh because they knew that they were fighting on behalf of Vietnam.

53:06 And so he first, classic psyops, create a term, label them, and then go after that. Ed Lansdell arrived in Saigon fresh from having managed the successful anti, quote, anti-communist counterinsurgency in the Philippines, where his bag of dirty tricks included counterterrorism, the assassination of government officials.

53:36 and the installation of his Magsaysay guy. The Philippines, his tactics earned him the nickname Ugly American. He brought those same tactics to Saigon. And you'll never guess, an entire team of Filipino assassins came with him, almost like Operation Gladio.

54:02 And the word on the street at the time, this is an actual quote about those people he brought. These are the anti-Castro exiles that the CIA established in the United States. That's who we're talking about. I mean, I'm not saying these are Cubans. I'm saying this is the same footprint. Here's the quote. Would slit their grandmother's neck for $1.85. That's what the people had to say about him.

54:33 Lansdale goes on to write this. A combat psywar, psychological warfare, team was brought in. It planted stories among town residents of a vampire living. So this is one of the things that he did in the Philippines. And I've read this story before. Residents of a vampire planted a story among town residents that a vampire was living in the hills.

55:01 where the Hucks, which are the people that he was fighting against, they were the freedom fighters in the Philippines. Two nights later, after giving the stories time to circulate among the Huck sympathizers in town, they make their way up to Hill Camp. The Cywar squad set up an ambush along the trail used by the Hucks. When a Hucks patrol came by,

55:30 They snatch the last guy in the patrol. They kill him. They puncture two holes in his neck. So they actually believe that it is a vampire that attacked the guy and killed him. So when the Hucks return to look for the guy that they found missing once they got back to their camp, they actually believed that a vampire was there. That's the kind of shit Lansdale's famous for. So...

56:01 Let's see. Lansdale managed several programs once he got to Vietnam that were designed to ensure Dem's internal security, which would later evolve into incorporate the Phoenix program. In 1954, when posing as an assistant Air Force attache in the U.S. Embassy, because again, he's CIA, Lansdale got the job of resettling nearly one million.

56:31 From the north. So Lansdale was involved in that migration that we've already talked about and how they did that. So he adds some interesting aspects to it. So let's go on. He talks about a Lansdale set up a fake company. That fake company, and you just can't make this shit up, was called Freedom Company. So the Filipinos staffed.

57:01 Freedom Company. The Filipinos were assassins and they trained two paramilitary teams, which posing as refugee relief organizations. Where have we heard that before? The entire network coming into the United States is refugee relief organizations. Who's in them? CIA?

57:35 They also used the CIA-owned airline, Civil Air Transport. Oh, and look what Doug says. Activated stay-behind networks in North Korea. Sorry, Vietnam. They sabotaged power plants and spread false information of a communist bloodbath. So that's how they got the people to leave the North.

58:04 Because they were screaming at them and they blared loudspeakers night and day, scaring the hell out of everybody to get them to get on the boats and the airplanes. It was nonstop for weeks, psyops, to get them out of there. In this last regard, a missionary by the name of Tom Dooley concocted a lurid tale of Viet Minh soldiers disemboweling pregnant Catholic women.

58:34 castrating priests and sticking bamboo slivers in the ears of children so they would not hear the word of God. Dooley's tall tales of terror galvanized American support for them, but were uncovered in 1979 during a Vatican sainthood investigation. Okay, so that's what they told those people to scare them to get them to leave. And then they use those people later on for votes. Sound familiar?

59:03 That's what's happening in your country. That's why you guys hear me screaming all the time when somebody says something. It's the Phoenix program. It's the Phoenix program. Lansdale, which is why I'm going to take as long as it takes to get through this because we need to know what it is. Lansdale's clandestine infiltration and black propaganda program evolved and the Vietnamese special forces were a result of it.

59:35 And the acronym for their special forces is LLDB, like Delta Bravo. Trained and organized by the CIA, the LLDB reported directly to the CIA. And guess what their office was called? Presidential Survey Office. That's crazy. As a palace guard.

1:00:06 Kevin Generous in Vietnam, Kevin Generous is the name of a guy, and he wrote a book called Vietnam, The Secret War. Here's a quote. They were always available for special details dreamt up by President Dem and his brother knew. Those quote unquote special details sometimes involved terrorizing political opponents.

1:00:32 Lansdale's program was aimed at several thousand Viet Minh stay-behind agents organizing secret cells and conducting propaganda among the people. As a way of attacking these agents, Lansdale hired Freedom Company to activate Operation Brotherhood, a paramedical team patterned on Special Forces A-Team. Under CIA direction.

1:00:58 Operation Brotherhood built dispensaries that were used as cover for covert terror organizations hiding behind medical, kind of like Red Cross. Operation Brotherhood spawned the Eastern Construction Company, another fake company, which provided hundreds of hardcore Filipino gladio operators. He didn't say that. I did.

1:01:25 who, while building roads and dispensing medicine, assisted Dem security forces of identifying and eliminating Viet Minh agents. So, you see how that works? In 1955, using resettled Catholic refugees trained by the Freedom Company as cadre, Lansdell began his civic action program, the centerpiece of Dem's national security program.

1:01:55 The resettled Catholic refugees is those million people. So the CIA took those million people, had them trained by the freedom country as quote unquote cadre in a civics action program. Hold on just a minute. I need to reply to something. Okay. So the civic action aimed to do four things.

1:02:31 induce enemy soldiers to defect, to organize rural people into self-defense forces to insulate their villages from the dreaded Viet Cong, to create political cadres who would sell the idea that Dem, not the Viet Minh, represented national aspirations, in other words, psyops, and to provide cover for counterterrorism. The cadres, the civil action cadres,

1:03:02 dressed in black pajamas, and went into villages to dig latrines, patch roofs, dispense medicine, and deliver propaganda composed by Lansdale. The people were expected to inform on Viet Minh guerrillas and vote for them in the 1956 unification elections stipulated that the Geneva Convention called for. However,

1:03:27 Middle class Northern Catholics sent to the villages didn't speak the same language. So they were all alienated from each other. So not only did the civic actions fail to win the hearts and minds of the local Vietnamese, it was a unilateral CIA operation. It received only lip service from Dem and his cronies.

1:03:55 Lansdale's words, quote, were afraid that it was some scheme of mine to flood the country with secret agents, which it probably was. In May 1955, Dem formed a new government and banished the French, who kept 80,000 troops in the South right up until 1956. And he made them go to outposts along the coast.

1:04:24 in another step to basically get him out of the country. Dem then appointed a guy by Nguyen Ngoc Ly as his first Director General of the National Police. A longtime CIA asset, Ly worked with the Freedom Company to organize the Vietnamese Veterans Legion. Vietnamese Veterans Legion posts, these are basically like the VFW posts, if you read about these specifically.

1:04:54 They established them throughout the Vietnam area, and they were actually manned by people from the U.S. Information Services, which is a CIA front. They took over the distribution of newspapers, magazines, you know, all of the typical propaganda. The Legion also sponsored the first National Congress, which was held May 29, 1955, in a city hall in Saigon.

1:05:24 One month later, Can Lao introduced a political front called National Revolution Movement. In 1955, knowing that the Buddhist population would vote overwhelmingly for Viet Minh in the national election, still talking the unified election, Dem renounced the unification election required by the Geneva Convention and held a hastily created

1:05:52 National referendum that had nothing to do with a national election and gave people like two weeks and said that was going to count as the Geneva Convention, quote unquote, election. Candidates were chosen to be elected had that were chosen to be elected, had to sign a letter of resignation with no date just to run.

1:06:22 In case, after the election, he didn't like you, he would just make you resign. He'd fill in the date for you. Dim, in 1956, issued Ordinance 57A, marketed by Lansdell as an agrarian reform. It replaced the centuries-old custom of local villages being self-governed, and they appointed councils.

1:06:50 with districts and provinces chief, which nobody liked because Dem got to appoint all of the district chiefs. They also were the ones that hired all the security forces. So basically they installed a dictatorship. None of the local villages were ever allowed to be in charge again. All of the regional area was

1:07:18 were completely decimated. And he installed everybody that he wanted to have work for him throughout the entire southern area. And that sufficed for what basically was mandated in the Geneva Convention. And so basically, he just pissed off everybody out in the field.

1:07:41 But it was easy to do because you've got the U.S. behind you to go in and assassinate everybody that won't do what you want them to do. So, Dem could literally do anything as far as dictatorship, kill people, whatever, and the U.S. was behind them with the gun. The Viet Cong launched a campaign of its own because they didn't want to see happen in the North what was happening in the South. I mean, yeah.

1:08:12 So terror was not one of Viet Cong's tactics. According to Iran Corporation, and believe me, they do a lot of CIA work, so this is saying something. J.J. Zaloff, who worked in Vietnam, quote, origins of the insurgency in South Vietnam from 1954 to 1960, there is no evidence in our interviews that violence and sabotage were part of the Viet Minh.

1:08:41 assignment. Rather, communist cadres were told to return to their home provinces and were instructed to limit their activities to propaganda tasks. No violence. However, on the basis of CIA reports saying otherwise, Dem initiated the notorious denunciation.

1:09:06 denunciation of the communist campaign in 1956. The campaign was managed by security committees, which were chaired by CIA-advised security officers who had the authority to arrest, confiscate land, and execute anybody they labeled as a communist. In determining who was a communist, the security committees used a three-part classification. One for dangerous party member, B for less dangerous party member,

1:09:36 or C, for loyal citizen. And by loyal citizen, I guess a Dem voter. Damn, that sounds like the... Well, never mind. All right. So while Category A and B offenders fed by their families were put to work without pay building houses and offices for government officials. So basically, they created slavery without calling it slavery. They called it communism. If you're a communist, you have to be a slave laborer.

1:10:07 The military, too, had broad powers to arrest and jail suspects while on sweeps in local areas. Non-communists who could not afford to pay their taxes were jailed until the families come up with the cash. That's called extortion. Communists fared worse. Viet Minh flags were burned in public ceremonies. Damn, that sounds familiar. And portable guillotines were dragged from village to village and used on active and inactive Viet Minh alike. Assassinations.

1:10:37 In 1956, in the Highland area, 14,000 people were arrested without evidence or trial. The people were jailed simply for having visited a district that had been deemed having communists in it. And by the year's end, there was an estimated 20,000 political prisoners nationwide. Dem persecuted the Viet Minh and alienated all of the rural population.

1:11:06 Dem's family dealt with this problem, Hoy said, by a repressive policy applied through its Secret Service. This organ bore the very innocent name of Political and Social Research Services. It was led by a Dr. Tran Kim Thuan, a devoted Catholic, honest and efficient, who at the beginning sought only to establish a network of intelligence agencies to be used against the communists.

1:11:35 It had, in fact, obtained some results in the field, but soon it became a repressive tool to liquidate any opponent. Ed Lansdell had served his purpose and was being unceremoniously rotated out of Vietnam, leaving behind the civic action program to his deputy, Rufus Phillips. This development was political, Lansdell observed.

1:12:00 My first inkling came when several families appeared at my house one morning to tell me about the arrest at midnight of their men, all of whom were political figures. The arrest had strange aspects to them. Having come when the city was asleep and being made by heavily armed men, identified a secret police. Lansdell talked to the ambassador, George Reinhardt, suggesting that Americans under his direction

1:12:29 who were in regular liaison with the Dem government, had been influencing the Vietnamese towards a more ominous environment. We Americans were to give what assistance we could to the building of a strong nationalistic party that would support Dem. That's what Lansdale says on his way out, but that's not what Lansdale did inside the country.

1:13:03 That takes us to a stopping point. But again, guys, I'm going to spend as much time on this. This is kind of like the zenith of where we're going with all of this Operation Gladio stuff because I want everybody to be able to see how they're doing this to us and how they've been able to do this all over the world. And this really...

1:13:30 If you go back from the end of World War II to when this gets really started, which is in the mid-60s, they had a whole bunch of minor, and minor is not the right word, smaller versions of this all over the world. Because remember, they did the African coups like Lumumba, and they had already done several coups in South America. This kind of was their...

1:14:01 wisdom teeth coming in, if you will. This is kind of the culmination of Korea, the Congo, and all of these other places that we've studied already coming to fruition in a playing field far enough away from home for them to try out all of their gadgets in order to perfect those gadgets.

1:14:25 and go into the next phase of this, which was much larger scale coups. And of course, Vietnam began the dismantling of America in so many different ways, the breakdown of culture, everything. It was to drive a wedge into the psyche of America. And it did so very successfully, which we will finish.

1:14:54 Vietnam by looking into the changes in America that happened after that and or during that and one of the most incredible ones with so many parallels to all of this is the Laurel Canyon CIA operation that was used to facilitate all of this on the American people so this is going to take a while but I got all the time in the world

1:15:19 Because I want you guys to realize when I'm screaming it's the Phoenix program three or four times a day, you guys will be able to see it now. So we've got a few minutes. So we're going to go ahead and ask if anybody wants a mic and if they have anything they want to add or any questions. Let's try to stay on topic.

1:15:51 I got one thing, but it is slightly off topic. How's the chickens doing? I have three eggs. Yeah. Better than no eggs. Yeah. And they actually even got into the box. We were afraid they were going to just be laying them in the sawdust stuff, but no, they got figured out the box. We got some smart chickens. Stellar, go ahead. Yeah. I'm seeing how all of like everything that you guys started with is like, like you said.

1:16:24 culminating into we'll just call it the bathtub ring but then was that bathtub ring um that's happening like all over the phoenix program that seems to be really activated today um it's like we like i had asked you were all these different things in the past you know and they're they're all interlinked with each other you know um and and now time was going on with um

1:16:53 like with the vietnam north korea how much they're so similar literally the same players and groups and then what happened in africa uh or before and then what's and it's going on now again it's like it's now on steroids again and they're all interlinked and they're all the same and and it's the same things like the propaganda stuff the imprisonment like the j6 people you know um all these different things they're doing the same stupid stuff that they did in the past

1:17:22 But it's happening here, like here. It is happening here. Yeah. And what I find most interesting about reading these books, I read this book a long time ago. This book's been out for a long time. This was part of the reading that I did when I was, oh, I don't know. It's been years. And I glossed right over that stay behind reference because I didn't know what it was. And that's what's amazing to me.

1:17:52 about reading these books a second time, knowing what we know now, it changes everything. Because think about that for a second. The CIA went into an area that the U.S. had agreed was going to have a nationwide election.

1:18:19 undermine not only the election itself, but in doing so, planted stay-behind units in the North to spy on the people that they knew wouldn't vote with their guy that they installed in the Southern area. And then their guy in the Southern area working with them calls off the election totally because the interim measures they put in place.

1:18:46 They disenfranchised basically the entire country. So they knew they couldn't actually have an election and keep their guy in place. So they just decided not to have an election. And they basically installed a dictator, but called him a president and lied to everybody in America. Go ahead, Miles. Good afternoon, Colonel. Thank you very much for pointing out who the enemy is. If there's any counter operations.

1:19:21 Are we winning? Well, I think we are because they would not be attacking Trump the way they're attacking him if they were winning. They wouldn't give a shit. If they could still control the election, if they could still control all of these different forces, they would not be outing themselves in the way in which they're doing it right now. So I'm over the hill.

1:19:50 optimistic about what's coming down the pike because the more desperate they get, the more we're winning. And you have to see it that way because they've never panicked like this ever before. Never in the history of America have we ever had a candidate for office that the international syndicate tried to arrest and

1:20:20 took a shot at before he ever even got in the office, right? Somebody got shot on the campaign trail. Who was that? Was that Garfield? Somebody got shot on the campaign field. So, but yeah, Trump scares the hell out of them. And it's so obvious that it's almost comical at this point. And every day.

1:20:47 You know, it's just like the joke. Everybody's doing the meme saying that the next person, next Democrat to endorse Trump is going to be Kamala Harris because she's adopting his entire platform. So, yeah, I'm not worried. Go ahead, Stellar. Yeah, I was going to say the same thing because I think TG is in here and he was the one that, you know, when you guys step through so much stuff.

1:21:10 And things like that. And like you were saying, you know, the names, they label things one way and they label it something different. So it keeps everyone like really, really confused about what's really going on. And, you know, all this time, you know, like how when he was speaking.

1:21:28 You know, from their perspective, you know, the United States. So on the global side, and that's why I asked you, you know, I've been in Europe and live there and stuff. And the people are very kind to me. But knowing that they know that we were like this imperial or I guess colonial bully, blackmailing, murdering and all that other stuff. It wasn't we, it was our government and their government did the same thing.

1:21:58 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, that they were all, when I say we, I meant the United States. Well, yeah, it's our government, you know, like how, like in the United States for me, like growing up here, you know, and you know that I'm half Korean. So it might be, you know, I might be speaking because, you know, my perception when I was a child is one way, which was skewed because my mother was a part of what was going on in Korea when that takedown was done.

1:22:24 So for me, when I say we, the United States, you know, even though we as Americans didn't know what the hell was going on, our government did. But in those countries, they were living under the doing it and they knew and they knew it was the government and stuff like that. You know, but like for me, when I was going at the. Oh, hold on, Stella. So for Europeans, though, I want to make sure we're talking.

1:22:53 apples and oranges. So for Europeans, like in Italy, Italy didn't really have colonies, but they had influence and they watched as Belgium colonies in Africa, you know, and they live right next to France. France had tons of colonies.

1:23:21 They all understand that the governments of all of those colonial powers kept their citizens ignorant of what they were doing. As a matter of fact, if you read into the whole Belgium when we were doing Angola, was it Angola? No, that's Portuguese. They actually, in the Congo for Belgium, they didn't even know for a long time.

1:23:52 that the king owned Belgium for his own private estate and it wasn't part of the kingdom. It was decades after they took control because the king used the Belgium army to take control of the Congo, but didn't share any of the riches with the country who basically conquered the Congo. And he didn't turn that over.

1:24:19 Until a long time after they were in possession, he was in possession of it. So all of those European countries have lived through what we're living through. Fortunately for them, even though their media sucks now, there were very brave media reporters back in the 70s and 80s that began reporting on things like Operation Gladio. Many of them were murdered.

1:24:48 But they did it anyway. And there was one after another after another until they could not hide it. So by the end of the 80s, going into 1990 when it broke in Italy, it was like front page news everywhere. And of course, even then, the governments were denying it in the other states. And you remember the story where Andriotti got up. So it comes out in August.

1:25:17 of 1990. They have a planning meeting at NATO in October. And then in November, Andriotti is addressing and all of the other guys that had reporters go talk to all the other heads of state and they all denied having a Gladio program. Andriotti got up in front of all of Europe and said, you're fucking liars. Not only do you have it, here's your representative that was at the meeting last month. Oh.

1:25:45 And Belgium, here's your representative that was there. And oh, France, here's your representative that was there. So he outed them all. And they went through that whole thing. Our, because of geographical distance or whatever, and the ability of the CIA to control our media, we got left in the dark on all of that. So anyway.

1:26:12 OK, yeah. And that's probably why. And so like with my mom, when I was growing up, like North Korea or like when you hear news about what was going on in Vietnam, Vietnam, mainly I can remember because I was still a young kid. I wasn't around for the Korean War. But the you know, the other one, I remember like when they were having the protests and you would see it in the news. And I remember hearing I remember the gas lines and stuff, because like I said, I was still a really young child, but I have a great memory.

1:26:39 And my mom's thing was, oh, got to make sure that they get rid of all of the communists. The communists are really, really, really bad. And in reality, you know, that's what I was talking about and stuff like that. And then I, up until, well, until Gladio, I mean, I knew that we had corruption. I just didn't, you know, the McCarthyism, you know, I was one of those ones. My dad's like, yeah, he said it should have gone all the way up through China and stuff like that. You know, I was one of the ones that was like that. Yeah, they should have done it.

1:27:07 Thank you for the last year of mind-blowing my hat. Thank you. You're welcome. Go ahead, Bridget. Oh, I was just, yesterday, you know, you talk about the labels. And we are very sensitive to these mind-altering labels that the news crazy stuff down our throat. And one of them I came across yesterday is...

1:27:37 That a particular country froze the assets of another one. And that's stealing. That's not freezing their money, freezing their accounts. They use that quite a bit. And it's important to point out, anytime you guys see this, you know, flock on them like swarm of flies. Because they use these labels.

1:28:09 So that you don't call them out for stealing. That's what they're doing. They're stealing people's assets. It's not a political thing. It is a stealing thing. It's a right and a wrong thing. Anyway, thank you. Sure. Carrie, go ahead. Then we'll go to Miles. Hi. Hi. I just want to say Mustangs are better.

1:28:46 Mustangs are the best. Do you want your mic or not? I got it. No, you're not going to have it. Hey, so, um, did you say East India Company? Yes. Hmm. Can you, can you elaborate on that? Um, I will tomorrow. Um, I've got dinner with my sisters that, um, I'm going to take the hands today and I'll make a note. We'll talk about it tomorrow.

1:29:24 Because it's a little more drawn out than what I have time for. But yeah, we can talk about it tomorrow. Miles, go ahead. I'm going to apologize ahead of time. This question is kind of out of left field. But we kind of know from what you've been saying in your research that Vietnam was kind of like a laboratory for the CIA. In your readings, have you come up with...

1:29:57 Anything with Jacob's Ladder? And also, have you heard about the spider aliens? I heard about the spider aliens. I don't recall Jacob's Ladder off the top of my head. Do you know what that means? Do I know what the spider alien means? No, the Jacob's Ladder. That they were using.

1:30:27 drugs and chemicals to make super soldiers or actually to see how crazy they could make them to fight i do know they were doing that um i didn't know it was called that oh and by the way um carrie i posted my camaro pictures um so you can post a mustang picture if you want and we'll let everybody else judge which is best all right sr71 go i can't hear you

1:31:11 I'm going to remove him and bring him back up. Yep. Okay. Can you talk now, SR-71? I don't hear you. Oh, dude. All right, Annie, what you got? Hi. No, I heard you mention spider aliens.

1:31:53 Well, I've heard from several people that there were supposed to be some kind of spider beings in Vietnam. Is that true? You know, I've read that that was a thing. But I think that's about as true as the vampires in the story that we just told you where they killed somebody and just poked two holes in their neck.

1:32:28 So that's my opinion of it. Yeah, some more UFO-oriented people think that it was true about the spider beings, but I don't know. I wasn't there, so I couldn't tell you.

1:32:45 Well, thank you. You've heard that though, right? I did hear that. But I also know all of the other tricksters that they played on all of these people. So I'm more inclined until I actually have evidence to believe it was just another CIA trick. Yeah, I wasn't going to mention it, but you brought it up first. No, I didn't bring it up. Miles brought it up. Oh, Miles did. I'm blaming Miles.

1:33:13 Go, Miles. Go, Miles. All right. Thank you, Colonel. Sure. SR-71, still can't hear you. Yeah, they keep messing with all of this crap. Absolutely. We were really badly under attack yesterday. All right. I threw you a mic again, SR-71, if you can grab it. All right. Let's see. TJ or TG. Let's see if we can get him up here. Go ahead, TG. What you got?

1:34:09 Oh, my gosh. Let these people talk. I'm sorry. Now we can hear you, SR. SR-71, go ahead and talk. TG, can you hear me? Yeah, we can't hear you, though. Go ahead, Stellar. Man, you guys are really getting attacked now. Holy crap, I couldn't turn off my mic and all that other stuff. So you guys are saying something. I heard someone asking earlier.

1:34:54 do we think that we're winning? And I would say 100%, well, lots of reasons. One of them is this information is getting out. All these decades that they've been trying to divide us, we're all starting to come together and find out that we're not really as far apart with things as they're trying to make us believe. And no guillotines and all that other stuff. So I do feel that we're winning and because we are learning all this stuff.

1:35:21 I agree 100%. TG, can you talk now? Hi, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you now. It's fascinating. For some reason, I can't connect to this space on my laptop. I need to use my phone, but I'll be super quick. I just wanted to mention something that always interested me regarding the media post.

1:35:47 Vietnam in America. Vietnam happened before I was born, but I've read a few books about it. And there was a quote that always stuck in my cross, so to speak, from Anthony Lewis, who was kind of, he was on the dovish side of things, liberal, New York Times, and kind of like the most critical that you would get in the mainstream media. And the quote...

1:36:11 that I remember from him was, it was blundering efforts to do good. And that always stuck with me because it's almost like, right, firstly, what's the evidence that you're doing good? There's none needed. It's kind of axiomatic, right? So it just goes to show the strength of the propaganda, which brings me to my second point.

1:36:38 And again, I'm innocent of whether or not you've covered this. I'm sure you probably have. But given the nature of what you're talking about, have you spoken about Edward Bernays? Yes. When we were back at the beginning of this, we went back to the Fabian Society in England. Yeah. So we came a long way. We talked about the whole World Wildlife Fund, the 1001 Club.

1:37:07 We've pretty much hit all of the major building blocks that created the monster. Okay. The last thing I was going to mention was just in terms of geopolitical strategy. My understanding is that after Vietnam, the U.S. planners decided to go for a more multilateral approach, and that led to, for example, the quote-unquote coalition of the willing.

1:37:36 um and they like right so that that was an interesting kind of repositioning

1:37:43 Well, what's interesting, though, if you go back and look at some of these other things in Korea, they basically did the same thing. That was like what they what they wanted. It's a building block. Your point's well taken. In Korea, they actually did make it a UN mission and they did have like a handful of UK people, a handful of Australians, a handful of Canadians. But it basically was the US.

1:38:10 Like so many of the other things, they've gotten better at getting more since they created NATO. But it's all, as far as I'm concerned, window dressing. It's still like the elephant in the room, the U.S. is. Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

1:38:36 The rest of the crap is window dressing. And I mean, I lived that firsthand. I was at U.S. Central Command on 9-11, and I watched the quote-unquote coalition of the willing, and I watched how internal to Central Command we got the quote-unquote willing. We basically bought them with future military aid. It wasn't like they saw that it was in their best interest.

1:39:06 to go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, they saw it as in the least of the bad options because otherwise they would have been turned off and made a pariah by the United States. That's how we get the coalition of the willing. I happened just a few months before 9-11. I was in the second tower in the American Express building.

1:39:33 Just as a personal note. So I remember all of this very clearly. Also, Wesley Clark, General Wesley Clark's famous comment about the seven countries and five years is worthy of attention as well. TJ, I don't know if you have been with us long enough. We covered where Wesley Clark was when Yugoslavia was broken up. He was the NATO commander.

1:40:00 We also covered where he was at when the Waco tragedy happened here in the United States. He happened to be the commander of the base nearby where the military came from and where all of the military vehicles came from that they used to assassinate American citizens with. There were two four-man sniper teams from Fort Hood.

1:40:23 And Wesley Clark was the commander of that installation at the time. So we're very familiar with Wesley Clark. That's fascinating. On the NATO side, something that always stuck with me was the fact that they actually bombed a tobacco manufacturer in former Yugoslavia at the behest of Philip Morris. Yeah. It's amazing. But, you know, they also did.

1:40:53 They allowed industry to pick their targets in World War Two, too. So that's kind of par for the course. Stellar, go ahead. Going off topic, but you know how you guys were reposting and mentioned about, you know, that money that just kind of accidentally got sent to the Taliban. Do you think that that might have, you know, like.

1:41:14 Would that have been a payoff of like bribery to keep them quiet about what really happened, especially and then like the withdrawal? I mean, all that stuff was always fishy and that you just mentioned about, you know, the payoffs after 9-11 to these different countries. Do you think and we know that there was that within Iran with with what happened and stuff. So do you think that that might be tied to stellar? I'm going to give you an A for the day. You have become an excellent student. That's your A for the day.

1:41:45 because that is absolutely a possibility. Do I know that for a fact? No, but that's the way we need to be thinking. You get an A for the day. Okay, well, then I'm going to get a plus on this one. So like, remember I told you guys the other day about the jet or about the, there was a big high profile court hearing that was going on here in Las Vegas. There was a very good investigative reporter who was gunned down by a man. Well, that man was found guilty today.

1:42:17 So people are all praising that, you know, the you know, that there's justice done. And I'm like, think about what stories was he breaking? You know, prior to this, there was a judge who was, you know, who was murdered 18 months before that. Her daughter was working in a pizza place and noticed that there was human and sex trafficking. It was it was one of the portals or whatever they call those little.

1:42:40 whatever things, you know, she, the judge went to the police and ended up going to the FBI, but nobody would do anything about it. And then within a few months, she stepped down from being a judge. And then a year, year and a half later, she's dead. And less than a month later, this reporter gets killed. Yeah. That's crazy. I remember that. I've been following that kind of in the peripheral. And then really, if anybody dug in,

1:43:11 That is an incredible story of how they're covering something up by throwing a token person under the bus, eventually. Yeah, because especially after, you know, we know that this little kid was, you know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Miles. And then don't forget. And one more last thing, too.

1:43:49 This reporter was also questioning the October 1st stuff, too. So there you go. What do you got, Miles? Yeah, put a link to that movie, The Jacob's Ladder and The Purple Pill. While you're watching it, just make sure you put your Gladio glasses on. Thanks. I'm going to have my lenses replaced in my eyeballs. Mine are permanently attached now.

1:44:24 All right, guys, I'm going to head out. I really appreciate you being here. And like I said, we're going to spend as much time on this as we need because this is a huge topic and I believe applies to everything that we're seeing happening today. So see you tomorrow. Thanks for being here.

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Claims made here

CIA funded Operation Popeye documented ▶ 2:40

“In Vietnam, there have been declassified documents that the government admits they seeded the clouds in order to produce rain so that they would flood all of the tunnels that the colonel pointed out e…”

CIA funded Operation 40 book_quoted ▶ 13:38

“He was involved in a thing called O-Plan 34. This was basically what they referred to as a Leaping Lena, L-E-N-A, infiltration program for long-range reconnaissance patrol that had been happening in L…”

Operation 40 assassinated Vietnam book_quoted ▶ 14:07

“before Phoenix. It was like the precursor to Phoenix. And it says their primary function was intelligence gathering, but we also carried out undermining of the infrastructure types of things with kidn…”

Elton Manzoni member_of Phoenix Program book_quoted ▶ 15:07

“For example, this guy, his name was Elton Manzoni, M-A-N-Z-I-O-N-E. When Doug met him, he was telling Doug they basically erased his entire history of him even being in Vietnam. And in many cases, the…”

Phoenix Program targeted_for_regime_change Viet Cong documented ▶ 17:27

“So developed in 1967 by the CIA, Phoenix combined existing counterinsurgency programs in a concerted effort to, quote unquote, neutralize the Viet Cong infrastructure. The euphemism for neutralize mea…”

CIA funded Phoenix Program documented ▶ 17:27

Phoenix Program assassinated Viet Cong documented ▶ 17:27

Elton Manzoni assassinated Viet Cong book_quoted ▶ 17:54

“suspected of supporting North Vietnamese or Viet Cong soldiers like the ones targeted by Elton in his final operation. Targeting civilians is against Geneva Convention, and they did it anyway. Under P…”

Lucien Conein spied_on Phoenix Program book_quoted ▶ 18:54

“Can't keep track of my own notes. Abuses by corrupt security officers, policemen, politicians, and racketeers, all of whom extorted innocent civilians, as well as the Viet Minh. Legendary CIA officer …”

William Colby headed CIA documented ▶ 24:32

“then by labeling them and associating communism with them, they are able to indiscriminately kill them at will. So hold on a second. I'm going to resend those because I don't think they sent from my i…”

William Colby spied_on Sandinistas book_quoted ▶ 25:07

“75,000 Southerners, meaning in South Vietnam, who in 1954, quote, the communists took North for training in organizing propaganda and subversion, unquote. According to Colby, these cadres returned to …”

France founded East India Company documented ▶ 27:06

“The French conquest of Vietnam began in the 17th century with the arrival of the Jesuit priests bent on saving quote-unquote pagan souls. French religious leaders and their business backers formed the…”

France founded Society of French Missionaries to Advance Christianity in Asia documented ▶ 27:06

France carried_out_attack Da Nang documented ▶ 28:38

“A French priest was arrested for plotting against the emperor in Vietnam in 1845. A French Navy shelled Da Nang City, killing hundreds of people, even though the priest had escaped unharmed. So they a…”

Vietnam assassinated France documented ▶ 29:08

“The Vietnamese responded by confiscating the property of the French Catholics. They drowned a few Jesuits as a result of the hundreds of them being murdered and did a few other horrible things to the …”

France installed Vietnam documented ▶ 30:42

“resulted in open warfare between the French and the Vietnamese. And by 1859, French foreign legionnaires had arrived in mass and had established fortified positions in major cities, which they defende…”

France recruited Vietnam documented ▶ 31:35

“Vietnamese ports were open to European commerce. Catholic priests were permitted to preach wherever Buddhist and Taoist or Confucian souls were lurking in the darkness. And France was guaranteed uncon…”

France assassinated Vietnam documented ▶ 32:36

“The pacification of Vietnam began in earnest in 1883. As many nationalists as could be found were rounded up, and the French imported guillotines in order to behead them. The imperial city of Hue, H-U…”

France recruited Vietnam documented ▶ 33:07

“and stole everything that they could find. The French disbanded the Emperor's Council of Mandarins and replaced it with French advisors in a bureaucracy, um, staffed by, this is a French word, but it'…”

France funded Vietnam documented ▶ 34:40

“to the outer perimeter of the pacified zones, and internal security was turned over to the collaborators, basically, that they're creating. And these bourgeois elite were also installed in the police …”

Vietnam carried_out_attack France documented ▶ 36:12

“trained in guerrilla tactics to do hit and runs in order to be a pain in the butt to the French to get them to leave. It was referred to as selective terrorism. And they decided that they were going t…”

Pol Pot assassinated Cambodia documented ▶ 36:42

“without a fight to the invaders. And primarily that ended up being educated people or police people because the police people had all been trained by the French and the teachers and stuff like that ha…”

General Giap headed Viet Minh host_asserted ▶ 40:53

“gathered the various nationalist groups under the banner of Viet Minh and called for all good revolutionaries to stand up and unite with the people and throw out the Japanese and the French. Leading t…”

Ho Chi Minh founded Viet Minh host_asserted ▶ 40:53

Ho Chi Minh declared_independence Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 41:22

“and were preaching the gospel according to Ho to anyone interested in independence. Viet Minh held six provinces near Hanoi and was working with the forerunner to the CIA, the OSS, recovering downed p…”

Viet Minh worked_with Office of Strategic Services host_asserted ▶ 41:22

Chiang Kai-shek headed Kuomintang host_asserted ▶ 41:50

“However, as we know now, the OSS officers got outvoted and the U.S. decided to get in bed with the French. The big three powers at Potsdam divided Vietnam along the 16th parallel. Chinese forces align…”

CIA headed_by Emmett McCarthy host_asserted ▶ 47:35

“to take over the Vietnamese army from the French. The Special Technical and Economic Mission provided CIA officers under Station Chief Emmett McCarthy with the cover they needed to mount political ope…”

CIA founded Personalist Labor Party host_asserted ▶ 48:26

“The CIA did this by organizing a cross-section of Vietnamese labor leaders and intellectuals and created the Personalist Labor Party. That was the party's name that they chose to put Dem in to pretend…”

Edward Lansdale defeated United Sect Front host_asserted ▶ 51:31

“who had been over in the Philippines assassinating people over there to install their fake president there. He was a confidential advisor to Alan Dulles and John Foster Dulles. Lansdale defeated the U…”

Edward Lansdale advisor_to Allen Dulles host_asserted ▶ 51:31

Edward Lansdale coined_term Viet Cong host_asserted ▶ 52:05

“So Lansdell is the one who coined the term Viet Cong as opposed to Viet Minh. So he did not. And it's all about labeling. OK, keep in mind, Lansdell is a PR guy from San Francisco. That's what he did …”

Edward Lansdale installed Ramon Magsaysay host_asserted ▶ 53:36

“and the installation of his Magsaysay guy. The Philippines, his tactics earned him the nickname Ugly American. He brought those same tactics to Saigon. And you'll never guess, an entire team of Filipi…”

Edward Lansdale managed Freedom Company host_asserted ▶ 56:31

“From the north. So Lansdale was involved in that migration that we've already talked about and how they did that. So he adds some interesting aspects to it. So let's go on. He talks about a Lansdale s…”

CIA owned Air America host_asserted ▶ 57:35

“They also used the CIA-owned airline, Civil Air Transport. Oh, and look what Doug says. Activated stay-behind networks in North Korea. Sorry, Vietnam. They sabotaged power plants and spread false info…”

Luc Luong Doc Bien reported_to CIA host_asserted ▶ 59:35

“And the acronym for their special forces is LLDB, like Delta Bravo. Trained and organized by the CIA, the LLDB reported directly to the CIA. And guess what their office was called? Presidential Survey…”

CIA trained Luc Luong Doc Bien host_asserted ▶ 59:35

Kevin C. Kearns wrote Vietnam, The Secret War host_asserted ▶ 1:00:06

“Kevin Generous in Vietnam, Kevin Generous is the name of a guy, and he wrote a book called Vietnam, The Secret War. Here's a quote. They were always available for special details dreamt up by Presiden…”

Edward Lansdale hired Freedom Company host_asserted ▶ 1:00:32

“Lansdale's program was aimed at several thousand Viet Minh stay-behind agents organizing secret cells and conducting propaganda among the people. As a way of attacking these agents, Lansdale hired Fre…”

Operation Brotherhood spawned Taylor Construction Company host_asserted ▶ 1:00:58

“Operation Brotherhood built dispensaries that were used as cover for covert terror organizations hiding behind medical, kind of like Red Cross. Operation Brotherhood spawned the Eastern Construction C…”

Ngo Dinh Diem appointed Nguyen Ngoc Ly host_asserted ▶ 1:04:24

“in another step to basically get him out of the country. Dem then appointed a guy by Nguyen Ngoc Ly as his first Director General of the National Police. A longtime CIA asset, Ly worked with the Freed…”

Nguyen Ngoc Ly organized Vietnamese Veterans Legion host_asserted ▶ 1:04:24

Nguyen Ngoc Ly member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:04:24

Austrian Information Service front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:04:54

“They established them throughout the Vietnam area, and they were actually manned by people from the U.S. Information Services, which is a CIA front. They took over the distribution of newspapers, maga…”

Can Lao Party founded Movement for National Revolution host_asserted ▶ 1:05:24

“One month later, Can Lao introduced a political front called National Revolution Movement. In 1955, knowing that the Buddhist population would vote overwhelmingly for Viet Minh in the national electio…”

J.J. Zaloff worked_for RAND Corporation host_asserted ▶ 1:08:12

“So terror was not one of Viet Cong's tactics. According to Iran Corporation, and believe me, they do a lot of CIA work, so this is saying something. J.J. Zaloff, who worked in Vietnam, quote, origins …”

Tran Kim Thuan headed Political and Social Research Services host_asserted ▶ 1:11:06

“Dem's family dealt with this problem, Hoy said, by a repressive policy applied through its Secret Service. This organ bore the very innocent name of Political and Social Research Services. It was led …”

Edward Lansdale rotated_out_of Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 1:11:35

“It had, in fact, obtained some results in the field, but soon it became a repressive tool to liquidate any opponent. Ed Lansdell had served his purpose and was being unceremoniously rotated out of Vie…”

Edward Lansdale left_program_to Rufus Phillips host_asserted ▶ 1:11:35

Edward Lansdale talked_to George Reinhardt host_asserted ▶ 1:12:00

“My first inkling came when several families appeared at my house one morning to tell me about the arrest at midnight of their men, all of whom were political figures. The arrest had strange aspects to…”

Edward Lansdale recruited Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 1:12:29

“who were in regular liaison with the Dem government, had been influencing the Vietnamese towards a more ominous environment. We Americans were to give what assistance we could to the building of a str…”

Belgium carried_out_attack Congo host_asserted ▶ 1:23:52

“that the king owned Belgium for his own private estate and it wasn't part of the kingdom. It was decades after they took control because the king used the Belgium army to take control of the Congo, bu…”

Belgium secretly_owned Congo host_asserted ▶ 1:23:52

Bettino Craxi exposed Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:25:17

“of 1990. They have a planning meeting at NATO in October. And then in November, Andriotti is addressing and all of the other guys that had reporters go talk to all the other heads of state and they al…”

United States funded Korea host_asserted ▶ 1:37:43

“Well, what's interesting, though, if you go back and look at some of these other things in Korea, they basically did the same thing. That was like what they what they wanted. It's a building block. Yo…”

United States funded Iran host_asserted ▶ 1:38:36

“The rest of the crap is window dressing. And I mean, I lived that firsthand. I was at U.S. Central Command on 9-11, and I watched the quote-unquote coalition of the willing, and I watched how internal…”

United States funded Afghanistan host_asserted ▶ 1:38:36

Wesley Clark headed North Atlantic Treaty Organization host_asserted ▶ 1:39:33

“Just as a personal note. So I remember all of this very clearly. Also, Wesley Clark, General Wesley Clark's famous comment about the seven countries and five years is worthy of attention as well. TJ, …”

Wesley Clark headed Fort Hood host_asserted ▶ 1:40:23

“And Wesley Clark was the commander of that installation at the time. So we're very familiar with Wesley Clark. That's fascinating. On the NATO side, something that always stuck with me was the fact th…”

Philip Morris ordered_assassination_of Yugoslavia host_asserted ▶ 1:40:23