Operation Gladio - Vietnam and the Phoenix Program Part 2

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0:00 up the rumble channel again so that should be going over there and we're gonna get started um bye um okay so today we are going to um kind of give a summary and then um go through and

0:41 I thought the best way to finish this segment, since I've made the comments repeatedly throughout this entire thing about how the Phoenix program applies today is kind of run through the overview and basically do that. Try to show you where the comparisons are. So first, just a little bit of a.

1:12 review or overview. Bridget, is Cousin Nick going to be here? Should we bring Stellar in as co-host? I know she is off work today, but I also know she has laryngitis. Okay, I'll bring Stellar in. Okay. She's been yelling at the peanut people too much. That's hilarious. Poor thing. I told her she does.

1:46 All right. So just one of the similarities that I find between the Phoenix program and the United States as it currently sits, we've mentioned it a couple of times, is the Department of Homeland Security and their fusion centers. It looks a lot like that.

2:18 Also, the fact that we have all of the intelligence agencies with their central data pools and how they are basically pulling all of the information from us and populating these data pools, whether it's, you know, 23andMe or our social media or whatever.

2:46 That is exactly what they did with these survey teams. And I think it's plausible to even say that most of the social media that has been developed is a modern day version of the Phoenix program surveys. That they went to the village, got everybody out.

3:09 Basically did a fingerprint of them because, of course, we know all of our fingerprints were taken by these little stupid kids they give in elementary school. So over the course of time, in a very slow drip kind of way, they have put all of us in a Phoenix program database.

3:34 Also, one of the major elements of the Phoenix program was the torture and assassination program. And of course, we know that they said that they were doing it to copy the Viet Cong. And when we find out by looking at the details, as we've covered, the copying the Viet Cong BS line.

4:01 was actually these guys dressed up as Viet Cong, so they're basically copying themselves. And their crazy use of terminology, where they say that they were focusing on attacking the Viet Cong infrastructure, but yet when you read about

4:30 what they're describing as Viet Cong infrastructure it ends up being they're describing people as the infrastructure because they had basically just decimated all of the villages at least a couple of times so there's no real infrastructure that you and I would think would be infrastructure and those terms are used specifically to mislead the domestic population

5:06 In, let's see, Americans, South Vietnamese allies were, as we have seen in all of Operation Gladio, they were the corrupt class of elitist that in many cases were either aided or created in order to be the liaison overlord dictators.

5:35 down to the regional level in many of these places. And we saw that exact same thing happen in all of South America, in Africa, in all of those places that we talked about. Okay. And for the Vietnamese, all they wanted out of it was to reunite their country and basically...

6:07 institute a land reform agenda that would give them back their land from the French that had confiscated it. Since they had popular support for the National Liberation Front and had hoped the local people to win the war peacefully, however, America

6:37 When they installed Dem as the dictator, as we talked about at the beginning, he basically, they spent the better part of the first couple of years there crushing all opposition of nationalist influence in the South so that they could promote Dem as the quote unquote elected president.

7:04 And in the end, they never had the election that they had promised the world that they were going to have. And this quote unquote national liberation front never came to be from an entire national standpoint. And the crushing of the Buddhist agenda and their fellow nationalists.

7:34 And circumventing all of that by importing the million people from the North, that forced migration program where they use psychological operations to scare the hell out of Catholics in the North with voodoo weirdo things, basically interfering with the slated election and then ended up calling it off because they knew the numbers would be so overwhelming.

8:02 that DIM would never be able to be installed. So they begin training people for more of a guerrilla warfare kind of resolution as opposed to quote unquote installing a democracy. They create armed propaganda teams and they basically go into villages and

8:32 execute local officials many times dressed as Viet Cong so they could blame them for it. I'm trying to just pick through my notes here. Interestingly enough, the Phoenix program had its roots back in the University of Michigan State in their criminal justice. So it was really given birth.

9:09 um to in the united states um and we talked about how the cia had infiltrated posing as professors to come over under the auspices of a university and carry out much of the quote-unquote police training that was done to facilitate it um

9:34 We talked about Ralph Johnson creating the Mountain Scouts, which were the armed propaganda team, using in many cases criminals let out of prisons, which again is another kind of thing that we're seeing now with the use of prisons all over the world being emptied and sent to America.

10:08 the use of brutal death squads that were trained in covert war. They called the terror counter-terror, ironically, since what they were doing was terrorism. In fact, throughout the Vietnam War, the CIA staged false flag terror attacks, sometimes bombing theaters, and would blame it on the Viet Cong quote-unquote terrorists.

10:41 Um, and this aspect of the war is little mentioned in any article that you can find. You have to do a lot of digging to find out all of the, um, the mass terror events that was, um, just like the migration from the North that you, there's almost no one that writes about that. Um, it's a, it's a well-established fact, but you cannot.

11:10 and the fact that the catholic church participated in it um you almost can find it nowhere you really have to dig for it and you have to know that it exists so you know what words to use to find it um the primary purpose of the death squad commandos was to sneak into the um uh northern controller area and kidnap and kill people in contrast to moat

11:43 uh most forces like the Contras and the Nicaragua in Nicaragua that we talked about um which by the way if you compare names all as we pointed out with Felix Rodriguez quite a few of the people that were in Vietnam all show and in the Phoenix program specifically all show up

12:11 in the iran contra nicaragua fiasco as well and many other south american countries um the uh oh and um i i would point out i was reading some article earlier this morning um about ukraine because somebody had asked me a question um in a direct message and it dawned on me um of course that

12:43 If you start looking at the Azov Battalion and right sector, they very much look like the things that they did to the Eastern Ukrainians that are ethnic Russians. That looks exactly like the Phoenix program, too. And oh, by the way, the CIA had, I don't know, 20 some black sites in that area. So were they doing another Phoenix program in Ukraine, too?

13:12 I think it's quite evident that they were. And because the same thing happened where they were sneaking in and assassinating the mayors in several of those cities in eastern Ukraine. Another element of the Phoenix program that we talked about were the province interrogation centers, the PICs that we talked about yesterday, using a CIA.

13:49 a front company called Pacific architects and engineers. And I just found that I haven't had a chance to dig on them yet, but that was another CIA front company. They were used to build the CIA prisons all over the country. And they were used inside of those prisons. They built torture cells.

14:23 And they basically became the prototype, which would be interesting to see if that company, number one, is still around. And number two, if they were involved in the black sites all around the world where people were taken and tortured, like during Afghanistan and Iraq, because that program mirrors the Phoenix program as well.

14:54 The Phoenix, let's see, Vietnam was covered with several of these. There's at least one in every province, as we've learned. And they basically were the only building in many of the provinces that was left standing from the way Vietnam looked originally, from having disposed of.

15:26 the places where people lived a couple of different times and moving the entire villages into those basically like concentration camps with moats around them. So it's interesting and I wish I would have looked while I was over there or ask one of our tour guides if any of those were still standing because they certainly didn't point them out to us.

15:58 So at first, the Viet Cong made freeing the prisoners a major goal from these interrogation centers. They would try to break out the prisoners, which required them to.

16:23 Kind of rethink the whole security of them, the CIA, because they ended up having to spend a whole ton of money to go back and redesign the outside of them to be able to make them more resistant to the Viet Cong being able to overrun them and release the prisoners. And obviously inside of those are the things that we've talked about as far as the torture, beatings, electric shock, that type of thing.

16:53 And front and center of all of this was USAID, another CIA front, as we've learned, that basically brought in through the diplomatic pouches, as we talked about both in South America and Central America, the telephone generators that the CIA used for their secret police to torture people.

17:25 People would be held for months and there were very few survivors that came out of these unless they were rescued by the Viet Cong from these picks. And basically they were supposedly brought there so that they could be tortured into disclosing the names of neighbors or whatever that were potential Viet Cong just so they could generate more people to put back in these.

17:55 So basically it was just like a merry-go-round of torture, capture, capture, torture, murder, and then go out and anybody's name that they gave up, start the whole circle again. Many who ended up there were not even part of the resistance. They were just a neighbor, maybe a competitor in business or whatever.

18:20 Many were the victims of extortion who failed to pay proper bribes to the quote unquote trained policemen in a village. A lot of that went on. Other people, any personal enemies that they had, they would turn their names over. And pretty much over the course of the time, the Viet Cong managed to infiltrate just about all of this.

18:50 and was able to document most of this crap that was going on separately. Another aspect of it was intelligence collections. The CIA maintained a network of spies throughout the country, and it attempted to assemble the master list, which we talked about. That blacklist grouped in the Phoenix Talons became...

19:19 kind of the emblem of this program. They set up things called ICEX, I-C-E-X, in an attempt to coordinate intelligence from the CIA and the Vietnamese Special Branch, which ran the infiltrations into the North. It also combined the field police and

19:47 the PRU and U.S. military intelligence. So it was kind of like an NSA of Vietnam, South Vietnam. However, in reality, this proved almost impossible since most of the South Vietnamese were plotting against each other and kind of used their stovepipe intel as kind of their power structure.

20:14 the very best, most lucrative intelligence, they kept ferreted away for their own use. And after the fall of President Diem, Vietnam experienced several different coups, both at the leadership level of the country, but in their military too.

20:42 The generals were always stabbing each other in the back because they didn't have a consistent civilian leadership to kind of hold them all in check. We know all about the drug trafficking. But one of the things that we've not touched on is the whole, they had an entire prostitution network set up over there. They also had an excess.

21:11 not excess, that's the wrong word, a military inventory black market ring going on. And in multiple occasions where investigators from PACOM would arrive to do an investigation into missing material, when they wrote their report,

21:39 they would basically be fired and their report would be shredded because it ended up implicating the CIA and the local officials that they were black marketing the supplies to. In multiple occasions, there were people who basically were driven out of the military as a result of some of their disclosures.

22:12 And, you know, there were a lot of people that came out of there with a hell of a lot of money. And that's kind of what we're exposing in the thread that I've been doing on Nugent Hand. And it's funny how they, not funny in a funny way, but how they merge together. Because Nugent Hand happened in, was set up in Australia. And it was set up to money launder the drug trafficking cash being generated out of the...

22:41 uh golden triangle drug cells so in order to do that the ships coming into australia from vietnam carrying the soldiers for their r r two-week vacation in australia had drugs on them and they had an entire drug cartel set up down there

23:09 to forward those drugs to other locations. And that was the sole purpose of the Nugent Hand Bank. The creation of all of the different branches coincide with the ports of drug shipment. And so as you begin looking into the history of Nugent Hand, all of these people, Colby, Hand, they were all in Vietnam.

23:39 Houghton was over there and Houghton's whole job over in Vietnam was selling that excess material that came in for the war that they excessed themselves and sold on the black market. That's how he made all his money. And many people believe that's how Han made his money because it certainly was not through the military.

24:10 It's weird how all of these stories begin to merge together and overlap each other. So you have to go back then and question what was the whole purpose of Vietnam besides getting rubber factories and plantations from France and putting them into the U.S. corporate hands and building the drug network supply chain.

24:42 Um, many times when you dig down into the details, you saw Wes Moreland and whoever happened to be running the CIA side of the house, button heads. Um, and we learned that when we were talking several days ago about the sharing of intelligence and how the military was focused on actually winning a tactical or operational war where the CIA was interested in running drugs.

25:13 and extending for the longest possible time the chaos inside of Vietnam, regardless of how many people died, in order to be able to justify the presence of the military there to facilitate the drug trade. So the military often reassigned people to intelligence that had no prior experience or training.

25:43 They were given in-theater short courses in order to try to get them up to speed. Oftentimes that did not work. But basically that's what the CIA was doing as well with the locals to collect the data and the national police with the Michigan State University program. So despite all of that dysfunction, they managed to get those databases set up and all of those people in there so they could track them.

26:13 I think, as I stated earlier, that that became a prototype, but it also was a way in which you could create a corrupt system by buying loyalty and bribing people with this ill-gotten gains into doing things so that you have this almost like nepotism type.

26:47 which is kind of, again, what we find in some of our police departments back here. That corrupt element having worked its way into, especially the larger ones. The Phoenix program was also an attempt to coordinate various elements to, what's the best way to say this?

27:20 It gave them an opportunity to test a concept. And I want you to tell me, just think about it. We'll talk about it at the end. If you have a group of people that is not going along with what you want them to do, and that's what Ho Chi Minh, Ho Chi Minh at the beginning was not a communist. He was a nationalist. He wanted a constitution. He wanted a unified Vietnam, blah, blah, blah.

27:49 That's not what the CIA wanted. So one of the very first things they had to do was demonize Ho Chi Minh. And they did that psychologically by labeling him a communist, as we now know. And changing Viet Minh, which were national heroes, to Viet Cong. And you can kind of just see as we rolled out all of that information.

28:19 this program that someone, even at the very beginning in like their psychological operations area, had mastermind a way that they needed to practice this being done and implemented on a massive scale in order to be able to then use that across the world to implement this one world government fascist,

28:49 rolling coup apparatus that they were getting ready, and in some cases had already used. But this was really the first massive use of the whole torture, targeting, database, and all of that kind of stuff, combined with what also looked like a conventional war.

29:18 dropping bombs, all of that. And you can kind of see all of that coalescing around what we now call fifth generational warfare. But you see all of that play out in Vietnam. It's just quite striking.

29:45 when you zoom out to the 30,000 foot look of it versus what's happening inside the United States right now. The Phoenix program was a massive program to capture and kill the Viet Cong and the use of torture to reveal even more targets. It was also a massive psychological operation to control the mind of the enemy and

30:15 the mind of the people domestically back home. They used propaganda to terrorize, as we talked about at the very beginning. Edward Lansdell, we know, was one of the originators with his quote-unquote advertising, PR, propaganda.

30:41 background before he ever even entered the OSS. A lot of this was used during World War II as well. He did use it in the Philippines with the whole vampire thing that we talked about where he pretended like somebody had been bit by a vampire after they murdered him to scare the hell out of everybody else. Then he also

31:11 brought, like we have seen in so many other Operation Gladios, a lot of the guerrillas, the Filipino guerrillas that they had trained to turn on their own countrymen over to Vietnam and use them there. They played on, we talked about the whole eating the liver and the third eye torture, cutting out the penile gland.

31:42 because of its significant use in the Buddhist religion and the use of propaganda leaflets throughout the entire country to include the North. Let's see. We talked about the consensus or the census, sorry, grievance team in every village that the CIA had appointed an official that was responsible for interviewing each.

32:17 family and that they had to document everything so that they could keep track at all of their checkpoints um and the let's see since he was in uh whoever they picked to be the census administrator was part of the corporate elitist group that was in bed with the vietnamese installed

32:53 government. When this individual arrived at these local villages, they knew who he was and hated him. So a lot of, what's the word, dysfunctionalness and inaccurate information was gathered as a result of that. Also involved in the Phoenix program was our special forces, unfortunately.

33:23 They participated in some of these PRU units and conducted the covert war elements of it. There was mention of Navy SEALs who had trained, but this was basically their first combat use of...

33:51 kind of mimicking a CIA agent with the torture and stuff like that. And after teaming up with the PRU and their CIA advisors, these special forces guys found that their role in the war dressed up as Viet Cong hiding during the day and traveling at night to kidnap and kill people that they were told were the communist by the CIA.

34:21 And if you extrapolate that into today, you find that we have special forces that have been in over 140 countries conducting missions that in large part were based on CIA intelligence. So you have to ask yourself, what the hell are they doing there? And did the CIA lie about who the quote unquote enemy was?

34:50 for these special forces people um obviously all of this effort all of the money um i mean billions of dollars building torture cells psychological operations creating these death cells all ended up being for not um at the end of the day um they failed to gain control over large swaths of any of the area that they were seeking control of

35:24 It was when a military battle here, when you refocused over there, everything that you had originally done got undone because the people were more interested in their country than a mystically created enemy that lived up north. The Viet Cong were offering land while the government.

35:54 in the South was forcing people off of their land into new built villages that look like prison camps. You just can't compete with those two scenarios. There's nothing there. The Viet Cong were acting in Vietnam under a national liberation banner where the

36:22 the U.S. had just assumed the vehemently hated French position of occupation. Let's see. While 40,000 people were killed by specifically the Phoenix program, the CIA failed to destroy the Viet Cong, and basically the turmoil of the execution of that program

36:59 led eventually to the overthrow of another CIA-installed government in Vietnam. The legacy of the Phoenix program is terror, torture, and death. The Vietnam, obviously for the United States, was scandalous in just about every respect.

37:29 Because we had basically agreed, though, we had agreed to maintain Geneva Convention processes, but in both Korea and Vietnam had thrown it out the window. Nothing about.

37:59 What we did in either one of those conflicts remotely honors the intent, not the letter of the law, but not even the intent of the Geneva Convention. We know that Colby eventually, we talked about it, was called before Congress. He denied that the Phoenix program was an assassination program, which it clearly was. He said only 20,000 had been killed.

38:29 like that's an okay number. But if you take in totality the numbers in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam, you're probably upwards of over 6 million people. Some say it's closer to 8 million for all of this.

38:58 Because we haven't even got into Laos and Cambodia or even Thailand at this point. This is just Vietnam and the numbers are staggering. But Laos and Cambodia, Cambodia was, you know, it's horrific. But you and you'll see when we get to those, you can't actually separate those from Vietnam. They happened for the same drug trade.

39:29 And as far as death rates, much more significant. The tactics of the Phoenix program are common to just about any what they refer to as counterinsurgency. I refer to as an insurgency program. And they go back as far as the beginning of the 1900s when we were in Philippines.

39:57 Cuba after the Spanish-American War, as we've talked about. They've just kind of perfected this as they go forward. The connection between the Phoenix program and later events are clearly evident to include El Salvador, Chile, Nicaragua, Honduras.

40:31 Actually, if you look at the the U.S. sent the exact same people that had been involved in the Phoenix program to advise El Salvador on how to run a very similar program, if not the same program with its people, how to set it up. And obviously, who's my famous person? Felix Rodriguez. Oh, yes. He was in El Salvador, too.

41:00 And he was also involved with the overthrow of Nicaragua, setting that same thing up. And he had been a PRU advisor in the Phoenix program in Vietnam. And that guy, as you guys know, he was involved in the Bay of Pigs. He was involved in the murder of Shea Calvera.

41:27 You can track him right back to the Phoenix program where he learned how to do all of that. And, you know, crazy enough, his ties to Bush in the CIA kind of overshadows all of that. And kind of and, you know, then he shows up.

42:00 to do those exact same things as the liaison between Donald Gregg and George Bush while he's vice president. And you look back at the dates when he was the CIA director, you know, you see the direct correlation there.

42:27 He was the CIA director for Ford in 76 and 77. And that's, you know, right around this same time. And so he kind of scooped up all of the Operation Phoenix people to incorporate them into his CIA.

43:00 um, endeavors while he's the director then. So in, um, just a little teaser, if you will, in nearby Laos, um, much of the war centered around the opium, the plane of jars, um, and many of the coups, um, were, uh, orchestrated using money as we know now.

43:31 um from the drug trade the cia ran front airlines the civil um uh air the cat um air america um it become it was the cat um and then it's renamed to air america was used to take that um uh stolen weapons that are is being shipped into the quote-unquote war in vietnam

44:01 And then they sell it on the black market and also use these aircraft to smuggle the drugs around. We know they basically were using that exact same scenario that they created in Vietnam to traffic the guns, traffic the drugs, and fund the attack on the...

44:31 uh sandinistas which basically became the vietcong of central america named the target set up the phoenix program and turned the same people loose that had ran the phoenix program in vietnam in nicaragua and that's basically what they did and the surrounding areas um

44:55 Death squads are a major element of these programs. We know that from looking not just at the Phoenix program in Vietnam, but also in Nicaragua, where they trained people in assassination using initially the schools of America and then the hemispheric Western whatever stupid school at Fort Benning. And then you could also say there's some.

45:26 overlap to some of the things that we have seen in the Middle East, in Iraq. There were people that actually called it the El Salvador solution, and they sent people who had helped in El Salvador and the terror campaign that had been set up in El Salvador to Iraq to train the Shiite brigades.

45:55 They would use these to wage a massive campaign of kidnapping and torture aimed at destroying the Sunni insurgency. In Syria, they would train the Wahhabi death squads in an attempt to overthrow the government in a similar way that they used the Contras to attack the Sandinistas. Again, Syria's infrastructure, and I'm using that in air quotes.

46:23 had been targeted quite literally as the CIA-backed death squads attempt to destroy food production, hospitals, schools, water, electrical power, as well as cultural sites. Of course, they also try to kill as many people as possible. Like the death squads of the Phoenix program, they frequently commit false flags using famously

46:49 Like the chemical weapons, that's probably one of the most well-known ones. And then again, you have the Phoenix program rear its head in Ukraine with the death squads that they unleashed in eastern Ukraine. But if you go back and you look at all of this mentally and you were to write down.

47:19 A list of everything they did. And let's just take this. The list here that he did. Destroy the food production. Are they not doing that here? Is there not an attack on our food supply? Destroy the hospitals. Is that not here? Are they not actually trying to destroy our hospitals with all of this forced COVID? You now have.

47:49 All of the medical people, the inundating of our medical infrastructure with illegal aliens. Yes, so they're doing that too. Schools, are they trying to destroy our schools? Absolutely. Both curriculum wise, they have totally destroyed our school. But they're also trying to physically destroy our schools with terrorist shooters in them.

48:19 by overwhelming them again with illegal aliens. The water supply has been absolutely poisoned with fluoride and other chemicals. The electrical grid has been destroyed with this bullshit green energy garbage. And the cultural sites. They not only went through America destroying cultural sites,

48:46 Congress authorized and the administration executed the destruction of cultural sites all around the United States and used our taxpayer dollars to do it. So there's literally no part of the Phoenix program that is not in operation right now. You have no knock FBI.

49:15 raids on people's houses where they go in and murder them. We've seen that repeatedly. We talked about Waco. We talked about Ruby Ridge, the guy out in Arkansas who was shot dead in his house. The torture, incarceration without trial of the people that were involved in January 6th.

49:42 They're months on end in isolation, in solitary confinement. How is this not the Phoenix program? So anyway, that takes me to kind of the summation and the dovetailing of this and the overlay of how it was used in many of the subsequent efforts. But I do believe without a doubt.

50:15 The Phoenix program was the foundational test in Vietnam of an apparatus that has been used consistently since then in multiple countries alongside a very slow and meticulous implementation of it here.

50:45 to include 9-11 and the setup of the Patriot Act afterwards and the nanny state cyber disappearing piece of it. All of that is part of it. So let's bring up, anybody want to come up? And I posted a link in the panel.

51:24 For anybody who wants to do further reading, this includes certain CIA people who suggested domestic insurgent techniques. Cool. All right. Anybody have any... Terry, do you have a question? Yeah, you just... I'm just going to make a call. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just going to just...

52:17 go ahead go ahead i'll talk afterwards sorry i'm so sorry okay um so uh you briefly said something about cutting out people's pineal gland and i was really shocked by that um i just want to say something then i have a question so um our i'm a medical person and our body has um

52:51 receiver like antennas and they receive data and um they give out uh data just like an antenna and that's our endocrine system and the that gland is part of that and um some people think that fluoride is used to sort of

53:20 uh well they say calcify our gland and i don't i don't know if that's true it is true it is true yes so basically um uh it's put into this genre of like kooky people like me that have meditated for a really long time and actually function with my third eye um

53:51 which is that gland and it's actually an eye it has i mean this is gonna just tell me to shut up if you don't want to listen to this but um it's actually an eye in there uh in the like bottom of your brain and it has rods and cones shaped um and that's the only other place that you have uh rods and cones and um

54:25 it has pigment just like your eye and it's our body uses it for like when is it time to go to sleep like when is it dark it can see i mean it's very extensive what i'm talking about um so what's your point medically my point is that um that's how we really function on the planet

54:55 And that's how we can actually communicate to one another besides speaking. You know how sometimes you just get a gut feeling? Yep. Yeah, that's that. There's actually a mechanism in your body. It's not like woo-woo, intuition, blah, blah. You know shit. Not just your verbal brain knows shit. You know shit. So do you have a question too? Yeah. What were they doing?

55:25 what is the extent of them cutting people open and taking out this plan? So I just, I just wanted to clarify. It's not, they weren't doing it for religious reasons. No, they were. This was a, listen to me, Carrie, listen to me. Like day two or three, we went over a conscious torture slash assassination program.

55:55 which was used to torture and terrorize the surrounding people where they went into these villages. They would kill somebody. They would cut out their penile gland. They would then nail it to the back of these people's head after they were murdered because of its significance in the Buddhist religion. And that was a form of terror.

56:25 of what would happen to you if you didn't comply i guess i'm having problems with the frame out of religion because there's a difference between a religion and like the way that you live you know what i mean but buddhist buddhism is a religion and they have beliefs that they um participate in

57:00 And part of their religious belief is the significance of the penile gland and it being the all-seeing eye. That is part of their religion. And these people were like 90% Buddhist. The 10% were Catholic, but the majority of all of the people in Vietnam at the time were Buddhist.

57:29 And so them taking a specific significant aspect, it would be like taking women and somehow dressing them up as Mary and desecrating them as if they were desecrating the mother of Jesus in the Catholic religion. It is something of premier.

57:57 um importance to buddhist and it was to break them it was to destroy their resistance to allow the u.s basically just to occupy for time memorial the the south vietnam so that they could use it as a drug trafficking place patriot sarah go ahead

58:29 Hi, Colonel. Hi, co-host. Hi, space. So I have a question that I may have asked before, but I was wondering what the role of the baby lifts was. Could that have been for payment for some people, punishment for other people?

59:07 I know some of the children were stolen. So could you speak on that, please? Thank you. So this was a big topic of conversation during the visit of when I went to Vietnam. And it is very much viewed by the people in

59:36 Vietnam, that this was a mass stealing of children. It wasn't a rescuing of children. It was a stealing of children. And there were people that, not unlike what we did in Haiti, this does seem to be something.

59:57 Not unlike what we did in Guatemala and in Latin America and many of these countries. We talked about when we talked about Argentina, how they basically stole children and gave them to the elite group, whether they raised them as their own children or whatever. There was no recording of what the disposition of these children were. They just are in the business of stealing children.

1:00:26 It has been documented that those children were dispersed between Australia, France, West Germany and Canada, as well as the United States that I know of. And, you know, a lot of the children could very well have been left or resulted.

1:00:55 as a result of our mass extermination death squad campaigns throughout all of these villages. But the fact that you go back and you look at some of these organizations like the Catholic Relief Services that are now still around and trafficking children across the southern border, it does make you scratch your head.

1:01:25 um saying what exactly were they doing um and you have um a guy that basically um created the charity americares um which we know has been actively involved in children trafficking um and the

1:01:51 People like Barbara Bush and Jill Biden and all those people have served as honorary heads of these, of AmeriCare specifically, and it's being looked at as one of the child traffickers from Guatemala into the United States right now. This guy, Robert McCauley, was the one that set AmeriCares up.

1:02:20 And he was also behind the basically paying for the stealing of those children. So me, I don't think that's a coincidence. But that's my personal opinion. Jillian, go ahead. Thank you. Hey, I hope you guys are doing well. I just wanted to pass on a compliment to you, Colonel. I was in another space. I think it's Colonel.

1:02:52 Maness, am I saying that right or do you know? Yeah. Yeah, and he was very complimentary. He was talking about the situation we're in right now as a country. And I asked him if he thought the CIA could be operating kind of a gladiator event. And he was quiet for a second. And I said, well, maybe I shouldn't have said that. And he said, no, I've had Colonel.

1:03:18 town around here and we've burst that bubble and she knows what she's talking about and he was trying to convince his uh space that it was not gladio was not a conspiracy type of thing and he gave like a three-point answer so i was just going to pass that along i was but i was trying to spread that another space and he he was real nice about it i've never been in that space before but yeah i was on his show for an hour

1:03:47 um one day and i've never heard from him again um but um and not i'm not saying that in a bad way um this topic is not for everybody and i understand that um but he was um very um complimentary and he has mentioned it a couple of times that i've just gotten dms or feedback from other people um

1:04:16 so he's definitely not avoiding it as some do and i guess i would describe the experience of going um on there because he does it in a radio show there's lots of breaks so it's almost impossible to have the continuity of conversation in those forms i've done several radio shows um uh live and as a result of that um

1:04:44 It is a much different forum. And I did get a little pushback, but because obviously I've been doing this for a long time now, was able to kind of move it back to, you know, and he acknowledged the fact that everything that I said was absolutely dead on true. So, yeah. But thank you, Jillian. That's exactly what I want you guys to do.

1:05:14 uh pat jillian on the back y'all go follow her um i want you guys yeah i want you guys in other spaces and when people talk about things that you know dang good and well is operation gladio if you even just say those words um look it up um here's what it is um that what you're describing is operation gladio

1:05:43 And, you know, people are inquisitive now. People are much more open-minded about doing their own research and looking into things. And again, every day in the feed, there will be somebody saying, oh, thank you so much for pointing me in her direction or the Colonel's direction or whatever, that you guys are the ones that are spreading the word. I'm giving you the material.

1:06:12 Your job is five minutes a day posted on somebody else's thread. And I'm exchanging my 12 hours for your five minutes. But we have almost 20,000 people now. If you guys just spent five minutes a day, all of you, posting a couple of the threads that you like best, that you think drive the point home the most, the message would be everywhere.

1:06:40 And so that's the only ask that I have is that you take some piece of something and post it on someone else's that, you know, obviously don't just go mass post, but that actually applies to that. So anyway, awesome, Jillian. Thank you very much. Thank you. You're welcome. Kaber Annie. Hi, Colonel. Hi, everybody.

1:07:09 Good to be here. Thank you for letting me speak. I just I was when I work, I can't come to the room. So I listened to the recordings and I was listening to the one about you were talking about Wackenhut. And when you said some of the CIA.

1:07:28 operations that you didn't know where they were now. Well, Wackenhut is actually G4S now, G4S security systems or whatever, secure systems. And I had worked for them, believe it or not, at Makila on the border here in Del Rio, Texas for GE. I never discount that. But yeah, and so it was just a contract.

1:07:55 They pull a lot of shady shit, too. But that's where they are, because it says in their material, we used to be whacking. But it wasn't very long. It was only a few months. Anyhow, and then also, you were talking about the Pilgrim Society. Yes. And what you called Chick Shiny. Well, I grew up in a small town in Pennsylvania. It's spelled exactly that way, but it was called Chick Shiny.

1:08:24 Pennsylvania, and it is south of Wilkes-Barre towards Berwick, and we do have a nuclear power plant there, the Susquehanna Power Plant, but it's just, you know, kind of odd that everything is just so pieces together, but there's more of a German type people following, but I grew up mostly in the Italian and Polish neighborhood.

1:08:52 which was the best of both worlds as far as food's concerned. Now I get all the Mexican I want. Yeah, I just thought that was really funny because I never heard of Shikishani outside of that town. And they said they named it for the humans that were there in Shikishani. Yeah, that's very interesting.

1:09:19 I'm familiar with the fact that Wackenhut, because of all of the bad press it got during the Danny Casolaro revelations about Octopus and its participation and all that other stuff, got bought. And what was interesting is that the company that bought it, as you mentioned, G4S, that's actually headquartered in the city of London.

1:09:46 Yeah, they're worldwide. But it's important to know that it was the city of London because the MI5 and MI6 basically has direct ties to this company. But also, there's another company that's associated with that.

1:10:15 that was, um, Danish, if I remember right. Um, so just, um, it's, and I think, let me look this up for just real, just real quick. Yeah. Okay. So Allied Universal bought, um, yeah. So they're headquartered, they're headquartered in, um, Pennsylvania and Irving, California.

1:10:46 So, yeah, that's a very interesting. And that it makes you think with all of these changes of it, it looks a lot like what they would do. Oh, shit. 2019, the company was attacked with a ransomware. And it says in December, majority owner Wendell sold most of the stock.

1:11:15 to a Canadian pension fund in Quebec. And the new investment group was led by Warburg Penkus, which is a private equity fund that was an affiliate of the investment company Safra Group. Now, I don't know if you guys remember Safra, but Safra is the guy that was burned alive in his house.

1:11:45 that had the special forces guy guarding him pretending to be a nurse that funded basically

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Ngo Dinh Diem installed Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 6:37

“When they installed Dem as the dictator, as we talked about at the beginning, he basically, they spent the better part of the first couple of years there crushing all opposition of nationalist influen…”

CIA installed Ngo Dinh Diem host_asserted ▶ 6:37

Michigan State University trained Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 8:32

“execute local officials many times dressed as Viet Cong so they could blame them for it. I'm trying to just pick through my notes here. Interestingly enough, the Phoenix program had its roots back in …”

CIA infiltrated Michigan State University host_asserted ▶ 9:09

“um to in the united states um and we talked about how the cia had infiltrated posing as professors to come over under the auspices of a university and carry out much of the quote-unquote police traini…”

Mountain Scouts member_of Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 9:34

“We talked about Ralph Johnson creating the Mountain Scouts, which were the armed propaganda team, using in many cases criminals let out of prisons, which again is another kind of thing that we're seei…”

Ralph Johnson created Mountain Scouts host_asserted ▶ 9:34

CIA carried_out_attack Viet Cong host_asserted ▶ 10:08

“the use of brutal death squads that were trained in covert war. They called the terror counter-terror, ironically, since what they were doing was terrorism. In fact, throughout the Vietnam War, the CI…”

Felix Rodriguez member_of Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 11:43

“uh most forces like the Contras and the Nicaragua in Nicaragua that we talked about um which by the way if you compare names all as we pointed out with Felix Rodriguez quite a few of the people that w…”

Felix Rodriguez member_of Iran-Contra affair host_asserted ▶ 11:43

CIA operated_in Ukraine host_asserted ▶ 12:43

“If you start looking at the Azov Battalion and right sector, they very much look like the things that they did to the Eastern Ukrainians that are ethnic Russians. That looks exactly like the Phoenix p…”

CIA front_for Pacific Architects and Engineers host_asserted ▶ 13:49

“a front company called Pacific architects and engineers. And I just found that I haven't had a chance to dig on them yet, but that was another CIA front company. They were used to build the CIA prison…”

USAID front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 16:53

“And front and center of all of this was USAID, another CIA front, as we've learned, that basically brought in through the diplomatic pouches, as we talked about both in South America and Central Ameri…”

CIA funded Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 18:50

“and was able to document most of this crap that was going on separately. Another aspect of it was intelligence collections. The CIA maintained a network of spies throughout the country, and it attempt…”

CIA operated_in Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 18:50

ICEX coordinated_intelligence_from Vietnamese Special Branch host_asserted ▶ 19:19

“kind of the emblem of this program. They set up things called ICEX, I-C-E-X, in an attempt to coordinate intelligence from the CIA and the Vietnamese Special Branch, which ran the infiltrations into t…”

ICEX coordinated_intelligence_from CIA host_asserted ▶ 19:19

Phoenix Program led_to_overthrow_of Ngo Dinh Diem host_asserted ▶ 20:14

“the very best, most lucrative intelligence, they kept ferreted away for their own use. And after the fall of President Diem, Vietnam experienced several different coups, both at the leadership level o…”

CIA operated_in Golden Triangle host_asserted ▶ 22:12

“And, you know, there were a lot of people that came out of there with a hell of a lot of money. And that's kind of what we're exposing in the thread that I've been doing on Nugent Hand. And it's funny…”

Nugan Hand Bank laundered_money_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 22:12

CIA operated_in Australia host_asserted ▶ 22:12

CIA renamed_to Viet Cong host_asserted ▶ 27:49

“That's not what the CIA wanted. So one of the very first things they had to do was demonize Ho Chi Minh. And they did that psychologically by labeling him a communist, as we now know. And changing Vie…”

CIA renamed_from Viet Minh host_asserted ▶ 27:49

CIA demonized Ho Chi Minh host_asserted ▶ 27:49

Phoenix Program operated_in Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 29:45

“when you zoom out to the 30,000 foot look of it versus what's happening inside the United States right now. The Phoenix program was a massive program to capture and kill the Viet Cong and the use of t…”

CIA operated_in Philippines host_asserted ▶ 30:41

“background before he ever even entered the OSS. A lot of this was used during World War II as well. He did use it in the Philippines with the whole vampire thing that we talked about where he pretende…”

Edward Lansdale operated_in Philippines host_asserted ▶ 30:41

U.S. Army Special Forces member_of Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 32:53

“government. When this individual arrived at these local villages, they knew who he was and hated him. So a lot of, what's the word, dysfunctionalness and inaccurate information was gathered as a resul…”

CIA advised U.S. Army Special Forces host_asserted ▶ 33:51

“kind of mimicking a CIA agent with the torture and stuff like that. And after teaming up with the PRU and their CIA advisors, these special forces guys found that their role in the war dressed up as V…”

U.S. Army Special Forces teamed_up_with Provisional Reconnaissance Units host_asserted ▶ 33:51

Phoenix Program led_to_overthrow_of Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 36:59

“led eventually to the overthrow of another CIA-installed government in Vietnam. The legacy of the Phoenix program is terror, torture, and death. The Vietnam, obviously for the United States, was scand…”

CIA operated_in Korea host_asserted ▶ 37:29

“Because we had basically agreed, though, we had agreed to maintain Geneva Convention processes, but in both Korea and Vietnam had thrown it out the window. Nothing about.…”

William Colby denied Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 37:59

“What we did in either one of those conflicts remotely honors the intent, not the letter of the law, but not even the intent of the Geneva Convention. We know that Colby eventually, we talked about it,…”

CIA operated_in Laos host_asserted ▶ 38:29

“like that's an okay number. But if you take in totality the numbers in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam, you're probably upwards of over 6 million people. Some say it's closer to 8 million for al…”

CIA operated_in Thailand host_asserted ▶ 38:29

CIA operated_in Cambodia host_asserted ▶ 38:29

CIA operated_in Philippines host_asserted ▶ 39:29

“And as far as death rates, much more significant. The tactics of the Phoenix program are common to just about any what they refer to as counterinsurgency. I refer to as an insurgency program. And they…”

CIA operated_in Chile host_asserted ▶ 39:57

“Cuba after the Spanish-American War, as we've talked about. They've just kind of perfected this as they go forward. The connection between the Phoenix program and later events are clearly evident to i…”

CIA operated_in Cuba host_asserted ▶ 39:57

CIA operated_in Nicaragua host_asserted ▶ 39:57

CIA operated_in Honduras host_asserted ▶ 39:57

Felix Rodriguez operated_in El Salvador host_asserted ▶ 40:31

“Actually, if you look at the the U.S. sent the exact same people that had been involved in the Phoenix program to advise El Salvador on how to run a very similar program, if not the same program with …”

CIA advised El Salvador host_asserted ▶ 40:31

George H.W. Bush did_business_with Donald Gregg host_asserted ▶ 42:00

“to do those exact same things as the liaison between Donald Gregg and George Bush while he's vice president. And you look back at the dates when he was the CIA director, you know, you see the direct c…”

George H.W. Bush recruited Phoenix Program host_asserted ▶ 42:27

“He was the CIA director for Ford in 76 and 77. And that's, you know, right around this same time. And so he kind of scooped up all of the Operation Phoenix people to incorporate them into his CIA.…”

School of the Americas trained Sandinistas host_asserted ▶ 44:55

“Death squads are a major element of these programs. We know that from looking not just at the Phoenix program in Vietnam, but also in Nicaragua, where they trained people in assassination using initia…”

Fort Benning trained Sandinistas host_asserted ▶ 44:55

Catholic Relief Services trafficked United States host_asserted ▶ 1:00:55

“as a result of our mass extermination death squad campaigns throughout all of these villages. But the fact that you go back and you look at some of these organizations like the Catholic Relief Service…”

Barbara Bush headed AmeriCares host_asserted ▶ 1:01:51

“People like Barbara Bush and Jill Biden and all those people have served as honorary heads of these, of AmeriCare specifically, and it's being looked at as one of the child traffickers from Guatemala …”

Jill Biden headed AmeriCares host_asserted ▶ 1:01:51

Robert McCauley founded AmeriCares host_asserted ▶ 1:01:51

AmeriCares trafficked United States host_asserted ▶ 1:01:51

Robert McCauley funded AmeriCares host_asserted ▶ 1:02:20

“And he was also behind the basically paying for the stealing of those children. So me, I don't think that's a coincidence. But that's my personal opinion. Jillian, go ahead. Thank you. Hey, I hope you…”

Wackenhut sold_to G4S documented ▶ 1:07:28

“operations that you didn't know where they were now. Well, Wackenhut is actually G4S now, G4S security systems or whatever, secure systems. And I had worked for them, believe it or not, at Makila on t…”

Danny Casolaro exposed Octopus host_asserted ▶ 1:09:19

“I'm familiar with the fact that Wackenhut, because of all of the bad press it got during the Danny Casolaro revelations about Octopus and its participation and all that other stuff, got bought. And wh…”

G4S located_in London documented ▶ 1:09:19

Allied Universal acquired G4S host_asserted ▶ 1:10:15

“that was, um, Danish, if I remember right. Um, so just, um, it's, and I think, let me look this up for just real, just real quick. Yeah. Okay. So Allied Universal bought, um, yeah. So they're headquar…”

Warburg Pincus subsidiary_of Safra Group host_asserted ▶ 1:11:15

“to a Canadian pension fund in Quebec. And the new investment group was led by Warburg Penkus, which is a private equity fund that was an affiliate of the investment company Safra Group. Now, I don't k…”

Wendell sold_to Warburg Pincus host_asserted ▶ 1:11:15

Safra Catz funded Safra Group host_asserted ▶ 1:11:15