Operation Gladio - Vietnam history 1940’s and prior
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Hello, hello, hello. Hello, Colonel. I should start it off with good morning, Vietnam. Right. Do we know if Cousin It's going to be in? I have not heard from her, so I'm going to say she's probably still working. Okay. All right. Well, you can keep an eye out for her. If everybody would repost the space for us.
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I'm going to wait just a minute to allow more people to get in. And then we're going to go ahead and get started. So it has been very interesting going back through all of the research that I did. I don't want to tell you how long ago, when.
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I was writing papers at Air War College. And to me, the interesting thing about looking at this area now is, again, you just see everything so completely differently, knowing what I know now. So this has been a huge challenge for me, shifting all of my...
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paradigms about what I thought I knew fairly well. I have found out that that wasn't the case. So let's see. I'm going to start with an article that will, I mean, at least it did me, blow your mind.
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I mean, I know this stuff now. I knew a lot of it then. But again, just contextualizing it in terms of Operation Gladio is just crazy. All right. So we're going to start off before World War. Well, during World War Two. And we're going to do.
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a couple of different articles. And then I'm going to spend tomorrow kind of going over like the last hundred years of Vietnam leading up to this time. But I think the first thing we have to do is kind of break the paradigm, break the thinking that we have about how and what actually happened.
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and where we started from prior to World War II. So I'm going to, I mean, before the Vietnam War. So I'm going to break it, and then we're going to put it back together is a good way of thinking about it. So we're going to start with an article that is in the World War II National Museum in New Orleans.
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And this is it starts with for most of World War Two, the United States considered Vietnam to be a relatively unimportant French colony to someday be reclaimed from the Japanese. But America showed little interest in enlisting Vietnamese aid in that effort. All this rapidly changed in March of 1945.
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Though the Japanese had invaded Vietnam in 1940, they allowed the French colonial authorities to retain power so as long as they controlled the Vietnamese and maintained the colony as a supply base for the emperor, Japanese emperor, army fighting in China. So basically, the Japanese was squatting in Vietnam and allowing French to maintain colonial control over it. However,
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This also allowed the French to maintain covert Allied intelligence networks that supplied information to Allied personnel aiding the Chinese in their war against Japan, which is kind of dumb on their part, if you think about it, to even leave the Japanese in there one day. By the early 1945, however, the war in the Pacific had shifted in favor of the Allies, and the Japanese became increasingly suspicious of them.
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of the French in Vietnam. As a result, March 10, 1945, Japanese forces launched Operation Migo, a swift military takeover that effectively ended French colonial rule in Vietnam. With the loss of French control over the colony during Migo, Allied intelligence networks operating in Vietnam collapsed. One such group, known as G...
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B, as in Bravo, T, GBT, had been providing information on weather conditions, movement of Japanese troop trains, naval vessels, and escape routes for downed airmen from the 14th U.S. Air Force stationed in China. Up to this point, the GBT refused to employ Vietnamese as agents because the French claimed that they were untrustworthy. They didn't want him talking to them.
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and were only interested in acquiring weapons to fight the French, not the Japanese. Because they knew the Japanese weren't going to be there forever. The French planned on being there forever. With their normally busy wires now silent, native agents became necessary. Both the GBT and the OSS reached out to the Vietnamese man who had drawn positive attention.
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from the 14th Air Force the previous year when he escorted a downed American pilot out of Vietnam into China. The OSS agent, Charles Finn, F-E-N-N, tracked down the man in question, Ho Chi Minh, describing him as articulate, charismatic, and both open and friendly to Americans. Finn was convinced Ho would be an excellent intel agent and the group that he represented, the Viet Minh.
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would also be valuable assets to the war against Japan. Soon thereafter, Ho Chi Minh became an OSS agent. His name under the OSS secret agent name was Lucius, L-U-C-I-U-S. The OSS then sent in Deer Team, Deer Team commanded by Major Allison Thomas, who parachuted into Viet Minh.
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base area to train them for operations against the Japanese. When Thomas and his team arrived in late July, they were greeted by a large banner proclaiming, Welcome to our American friends. With the tone of their work set, Deer Team went about training the Viet Minh in the proper use of bazookas, carbines, and grenades. Before long, the Vietnamese American force was born.
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Their training did not last long, however, with the bombing of the atomic bombs on Japan in August 1945, World War II ended. Upon receiving the news, the Americans of Deer Team and the Viet Minh laughed and drank long into the night. Thomas wrote in his diary, we shot up our flares and our pyrotechnics before the troops. We all shouted, hip, hip, hooray. We were a bunch of happy boys tonight. We will be in pretty bad shape to leave tomorrow morning.
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The Americans then accompanied the Viet Minh, now carrying new American weapons, to the capital of Hanoi. And all along their journey, the Vietnamese American forces were welcomed by cheering villagers, waving flags, and offering food. The Japanese defeated and the French colonials still in prison, the Viet Minh quickly stepped in to fill the existing power vacuum. Viet Minh flags went up and the Vietnamese were jubilant.
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By the time the first Americans arrived in Hanoi on August 22nd to help prepare for the formal Japanese surrender, Vietnam men were firmly in control of the North. The man in charge of the American mission to Hanoi was named Captain Archimedes Patti, P-A-T-T-I, whose team was greeted with the same warmth and respect that had been afforded the Deer team earlier.
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Greetings in English festooned the city alongside demands for Vietnamese independence in English, Chinese, and French. Patty witnessed the first parade of the Viet Minh troops and the first international ceremony where the Vietnamese flag was displayed alongside those of the Allies and the new Vietnamese national anthem was played right after the Star Spangled Banner.
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They actually gave the U.S. primetime spot. Vo Nguyen Giap, G-I-A-P, who would later become famous as the Viet Minh's preeminent military commander, said, quote, this is the first time in history of Vietnam that our flag has been displayed in an international ceremony and our national anthem played in honor of a foreign guest.
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I will long remember this occasion, unquote. And there's pictures of them all saluting the flags. On September 2nd, Patty and his team watched as Ho Chi Minh read Vietnam's Declaration of Independence before a cheering crowd. Their Declaration of Independence was modeled after the U.S. Declaration of Independence, which Ho Chi Minh had actually requested a copy of from
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the OSS officers. This apparent U.S. recognition of Ho Chi Minh and Vietnamese independence further inflamed the French, whose opinion, as most colonials had expected, the Americans to refuse to deal with this upstart government and help France restore control over their colony. In the South, the head of the OSS mission to Saigon, Lieutenant Colonel Peter Dewey,
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also angered the French. Although the Viet Minh in the South did not enjoy the same level of control as they did in the North, they were every bit as concerned with making a positive impression on the Americans. Dewey, like Patty, was royally treated by the Viet Minh, and he met often with them in his quest to gather information. But the amicable relationships established with the Vietnamese by Patty and Dewey resulted in both recalling
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being recalled from duty in Vietnam in response to the French and British complaints about their behavior. You're not allowed to be nice to the locals. For the Vietnamese, who interacted with the Americans during this time, however, these young American men represented the hope of their national aspirations. One Vietnamese, a student activist in 1945, recalled, Vietnam was suffering in those days, and exactly at that moment came the Americans, long
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Tall, handsome, very rich, idealistic, it was only natural for the Vietnamese to fall in love with Americans. This seemed true even at the highest levels. Perhaps the relationship can best be illustrated by one of the last meetings between a member of the OSS and Ho Chi Minh. Major Frank White's first conversation with Ho was not unlike those the Viet Minh leader had with other Americans before him.
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reiterated Vietnam's desire for independence, the atrocities and hardships suffered under the French rule, and the deep respect the Vietnamese had for the United States and its people. Upon returning to his hotel, White found an invitation to a reception at Ho's governmental palace that evening. He arrived at the appointed place and time and soon discovered he was surrounded by Chinese, British, French colonels, generals, as well as members of Ho's cabinet.
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Conscious of his inferior rank and ill at ease, White stood back as the others assumed their place around the dinner table. Clearly the lowest ranking man in the room, he expected to find his seat, in his words, well below the salt, and was ready to slink away if there was no empty chairs left. When everyone else was seated, only one seat remained, and that was the chair next to Ho Chi Minh, which meant he was the guest of honor. White recalled later,
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Quote, the dinner was a horror. The French confined themselves to the barest minimum of conversation and scarcely spoke to the Chinese, who quickly became drunk. One point, I spoke to Ho very quietly. I think, Mr. President, there is some resentment over the seating arrangements at this table. I bet there were. I meant, of course, my place next to him. Ho thought for a moment and then replied, yes, I can see that, but who else could I talk to? I love it.
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And just so that you guys know, I had to do protocol for six months deployed. And the seating arrangements at things like this is of paramount concern to everybody. This would have been like, I mean, like sticking an ice pick in these people's eyes. It would have been that bad. So I find that absolutely hilarious. The positive relationship between the Vietnamese and the American men on the ground.
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were strained, however, the excitement and optimism for the Vietnamese felt at the end of World War II for both a free and independent nation and the good relations with the U.S. had eroded. The U.S. government wanted to leave the messy colonial situation to the French and focus national attention on what they were creating as a Cold War.
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In their last transmission to the OSS headquarters in autumn of 1945, Captain Peter Dewey reflected this sentiment. China is burning. The French and British are finished here, and we ought to clear out of Southeast Asia. On the day of his scheduled departure, Peter Dewey was shot and killed by a Vietnamese guard who made...
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who may have mistaken him for a Frenchman, thus becoming the first American casualty in Vietnam in the post-war period. In the decades to come, however, many more would die. So there is some discussion about that. Actually, him being shot was that he was shot by someone.
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that was a party to the French because they were very, very resentful of the fact that the U.S. had entertained Vietnam being free. So just let you guys know that. One of the guys that was part of this whole thing I mentioned was Archimedes Patti, P-A-T-T-I.
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He ends up a lieutenant colonel in the Army. He was part of the OSS. And let's see, there was a couple of things. He was originally from New York City. And he basically got volunteered. He didn't necessarily volunteer himself to go to Vietnam.
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And I wanted to read this statement from him. It was during an interview that he did in 1981. In my opinion, the Vietnam War was the greatest waste. There was no need for it to even happen in the first place at all. None whatsoever. During all of the years of the Vietnam War, no one ever approached me to find out what had happened in 1945 or in 1944. In all the years that I spent at the Pentagon, the Department of State, the White House.
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Never was I approached by anyone in authority. However, I did prepare a large number, and I do mean well over 15 position papers on our position in Vietnam, but I never knew what happened to them. Those things just disappeared. They went down the dry well. So you've got a guy, firsthand experience on everything about Ho Chi Minh.
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And he is employed by the Pentagon, by the State Department, and had a job at some point in the White House. And not a single person ever asked him about his personal experience and his opinion on Ho Chi Minh. So that tells you right there that they have no interest in the people whatsoever. They only have self-interest in how they can use these situations.
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for their own benefit. This Wikipedia entry on this guy goes on and it acknowledges the fact that he was part of the OSS deer team and that they worked directly for a major Allison Thomas and with Ho Chi Minh. And it says that
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Patty arrived in Hanoi on a mercy mission with an OSS agent, Carlton B. Swift, and a French government official by the name of Jean Chantini. His primary mission was to assist with the repatriation of Allied prisoners of war as the U.S. government feared reprisals against them by the Japanese after the atomic bomb.
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Patty met with Ho Chi Minh over lunch at his residence in Hanoi. Several days later, Ho Chi Minh read a draft of the Vietnamese Proclamation of Independence to him. Patty offered some corrections to the wording in the opening sentence, which Ho Chi Minh quoted from the U.S. Declaration of Independence. He also quoted the 1791 Declaration of the French Revolution and the motto Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity, which first appeared during the French Revolution.
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The Vietnamese Declaration of Independence had a similar structure, but different in content, the U.S. Declaration of Independence, since the history and circumstances of the two countries were a little different. Indeed, Ho Chi Minh had requested an actual copy of the Declaration of Independence from Colonel Austin Glass. And that is, as I said earlier, what he used to model the declaration off of.
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It says later Patty retired from the military in 1957. He worked for the Office of Emergency Planning. And I guess he's the one, and I don't know if this was the first mentioning of it, but that Julia Child had actually worked in the OSS as well back in 1945 in one of his position papers that he had written.
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Let's see. Says, Patty stated that Julia Child had worked in the OSS in 1945, had allegedly submitted his position papers on Vietnam to the appropriate authority. By the way, in which he had found them upon his retirement was exactly as she had sent them, and they had never even been opened or read. The question rises from time to time as to whether or not the same situation doesn't apply in Iran.
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Afghanistan, El Salvador, and to every other trouble spot in the world. That perhaps there are people who may know the causes that actually led to what followed and have never been approached and asked to give at least, if not their views, at least to give the facts that they have. That is the question. So that kind of tells you. And I mean, honestly, I can't even imagine.
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Having gone through those experiences and then know later in life that your government completely ignored your firsthand experience and basically went to war anyway. And of course, we all know it was a drug war after the fact. But and then they wonder why people commit suicide because they feel like they've wasted their life, especially if they're involved in hand to hand combat during these times. So it's just crazy. Absolutely crazy.
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All right. So we have one more. There will be a little bit of overlap with this one, but this one is a very interesting paper. And this was part of a university paper that was the name of it is called The Impact of OSS on Vietnam.
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a reconsideration of events in 1944 and 1945. Circumstances giving rise to empowering the Vietnam resulted in the August Revolution. After its formation in 1941, Viet Minh gradually seized power, taking the advantage of a number of events. Ho Chi Minh's distinctive character significantly contributed to the result. It is the focus of this essay.
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Okay, hold on. I need to remove Bridget. I'm going to invite Stellar to be a co-host as well. And then let me go down and find Bridget and put her back in. She lost sound. Okay. So, Viet Minh gradually sees power taking advantage of a number of events.
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Ho Chi Minh's distinctive character significantly resulted or contributed to this result. It is the focus of easy essay on the relationship between the U.S., namely the OSS, and Ho Chi Minh before and after the proclamation of Vietnamese independence in August 1945. Vietnam was a French colony in the beginning of World War II, since the second half of the 19th century.
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After the onset of the war, France was partially conquered by Germany within a couple of months, and Japan sent troops to Indochina without formally conquering it. In appearance, the French rule continued in the region. At the time, a collaborator of the Vichy regime was in administration in France. Now, this is critical in an element that was left out of the other one.
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Because if you guys remember when we were talking about Europe during this entire thing, the actual French government that was the normal government made up of de Gaulle, they went in exile as the Germans was overrunning the French territory. And they moved to London and they were the recognized international government.
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of France in exile once Germany invaded France. What was left there were the fascist elements of France that were basically in bed with Germany. And that's the Vichy government, V-I-C-H-Y. And those are the people that after the war got pushed to the south when Charles de Gaulle came back and they went into a normal government situation.
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And they were kind of the guys that gave birth to the OAS, which is the assassins that Otto Skorzeny trained. They became the radical element within the country of France. And so that adds a little bit more context as to why the Japanese would not have been too concerned about the French being there because of the people that were recognized at the time as the French government.
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not the exile government, the one that was physically in France, were fascist in nature already, so they wouldn't have been that concerned about it. The arrival of the first Japanese troops in Indochina rapidly drew the attention of the U.S. to the region. This attention subsided with the acute and unexpected entry of the U.S. in the war in 1941. However,
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With the filling of an imminent victory in 1943, a renewed interest in terms of post-war peace plans of Roosevelt was evident. The anti-French and anti-colonialist attitude of President Roosevelt was evident, and the trusteeship formula on his agenda for Indochina was well known. This led to an increased need in intelligence in Indochina.
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That's where the OSS came in. And we know that it was at the time ran by Wild Bill Donovan. And Wild Bill Donovan, once he was told to establish a presence in the Pacific, decided that they were going to put the base at a place called Kunming, K-U-N-M-I-N-G, which was in China. And Bridget, I put a picture of that in the Signal folder.
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of where it was located compared to the northern border of Vietnam. And just so that you guys know, this is, and we're going to get into this tomorrow, but this is where General Claire Chenault and what ends up being called eventually the China lobby, the guys that are actually running the new drug lord.
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drug war, sorry, and Paul Helliwell. This is where they're all hanging out. All of the 14th Air Force that's flying all the missions there, all are at this Kunming base. In mid-August 1942, Price was appointed as the chief for secret intelligence in the Far East Division of OSS from a China-based
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OSS officers could launch missions into Korea, Thailand, Philippines, Indochina, which is basically Vietnam, and Japan. Although the importance of Indochina probably ranked last on that list in 1942, that situation changed. Chinese, American, and British intelligence service began to deal seriously with obtaining accurate information about what was going on.
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Naturally, there's a functioning French administration and a French intelligence in that territory. However, the goals of the Allies diverged toward the oncoming war. An urgent need for independent firsthand intelligence emerged. Thus, Donovan forced to look for a man whose purpose was able to maintain good relationships with Ty Lee, who is the senior military guy to who? Chiang Kai-shek.
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So because 14th Air Force is located at this particular Chinese base, Chiang Kai-shek and Tai Li, his senior military people, are also in close proximity to this location, most of the time at these locations. And they are running the quote unquote nationalist attack against Mao inside of China as well.
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Don't forget, Japan is there, too. So all of this is, you know, a lot of turmoil right now going on in China and then in all of these Asian countries. So the person chosen for the job is a U.S. Navy captain, Milton Miles. Ty Lee, who's the head of Chiang Kai-shek's secret service organization, like his chief of intel slash military.
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The Navy captain, Miles, was interested in Chinese culture. He spoke a little bit of Chinese, so he was the logical guy to get the job. Miles and Tay Lee quickly became good friends, and Lee permitted Miles to pursue all of his intelligence goals inside of China. Miles was appointed the OSS for the Far East in December 1942. His initial studies about North Vietnam.
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revealed that there were noteworthy activities in terms of intelligence in that territory. For organization of an intelligence mission in Indochina, Miles selected a guy by the name of Robert Mayner, M-A-Y-N-I-E-R. He was a young French naval officer to run the operation with the assistance of his Eurasian wife, a Vietnamese maternal.
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So she was Vietnamese on her mother's side. Despite the anticipated advantages because of his wife's connections, Minear's operations were almost dominated by French agents. However, because of the tension between Miles and the OSS headquarters and the French intervention in this enterprise, the entire thing was very short-lived. Miles was dismissed of his position.
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as the chief of OSS China later that year. And consequently, Maier's network collapsed in short time because, of course, a lot of it was based on his wife and her connections. Yet again, Maier's group was not the only one performing intelligence activities in Vietnam. There were some other independent groups. The most influential was the one we had mentioned before called GBT Group.
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Hold on just one sec. Okay. Sorry about that. Yeah. My husband's putting food on the smoker and I had to make sure he got the right food. Sorry about that. So anyway, this article starts talking about the GBT group too. Being one of the most remarkable groups in the history of intelligence. This GBT was made up initially of surnames of the three exceptional individuals, Lawrence Gordon,
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number one, Harry Bernard, number two, and lastly, Frank Tan, T-A-N. Gordon was a British-born Canadian with a home in California. After selling his coffee plantation in Kenya, you know, because that's like everybody, you know, no big deal. Not like he's a spy or anything, living in Canada and Britain and Kenya and all these places and in the U.S.
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He dealt with various businesses. I bet he did. Probably all front companies for the intel agencies. In 1938, he was in Haiphong, French Indochina. And let me just tell you about Haiphong. I actually have pictures of this harbor. This is up near the north, like to the east of Vietnam.
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It is an amazingly beautiful area. But guess what he was doing there in 1938? He was directing the oil operations of Cal Texaco Corporation. Now tell me this guy wasn't a spy even back then, because I'm not going to believe you if you do. After the Japanese occupied the area, Gordon and his family moved to California basically to wait out the war.
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However, in 1941, he was encouraged by the quote-unquote company, meaning the Caltexico Corporation, to basically get together a group and create a spy organization and go back over there. You know, like that's perfectly normal. He initially confined his activities to maintaining a company presence, but
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Later, under the guise of, you know, freelancing oil agent, he traveled all over the area renewing contacts and began organizing a spy network. What at first, and let me just say this, this is exactly what was done for the 200 years prior to 1947. This exact thing. Every international company's people.
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were spies for the United States. Bar none. That's what they do. That's what international companies do. They still do it today. But in addition to that, we have the CIA, who also does that from a coordination and assassination level. But this exact thing was how the U.S. did spying prior to that.
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What at first may have been a casual arrangement soon converted to an intelligence organization in a short time, utilizing British funds, radios, equipment, and Chinese personnel. Gordon was joined by two American associates, one by the name of Frank Tan, who was from Boston and he was from Chinese background, family background, who had known Gordon in Haiphong while he was working for Cal Texaco.
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The other guy was actually a Caltexico employee in Saigon, which is South Vietnam, and his name was Harry Bernard. This organization, by the end of 1943, became invaluable for Chinese Genalt's 14th Air Force in Kunming. And so this was their forward-deployed intelligence services under the guise of a business for the 14th Air Force guys.
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and General Chenault. Although OSS clearly knew about GBT, it was not until Miles' dismissal from OSS and the subsequent collapse of all hopes that the minor network that they had began to seriously investigate the GBT organization and the information web that they had created. The network involved
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a wide array of agents, including French and Vietnamese personnel. Although there was no concrete evidence about a bond between GBT and the Viet Minh, Cecil Curry claimed that since 1942, Viet Minh cadre had provided helpful information to GBT group. The man tasked to establish a relationship with GBT was Major Austin Glass. He moved to Vietnam in his early 20s.
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And who did he work for? Standard Oil. You know, the Rockefellers. No big deal. And he just happens to find his way into the OSS. And he married a Vietnamese woman and retired in 1937. In his report to OSS, Glass stated that, without doubt, GBT was the best equipped in both in and outside of French Indochina to obtain any information that they needed.
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OSS assigned Lieutenant Charles Finn as a liaison officer between the OSS and GBT. The last three months of 1944, Charles Finn was the only OSS officer working with and reporting on GBT activities. Finn was born in 1909 in the UK, another British citizen. Imagine that. In his early 20s and immigrated to the US and finally settled in California.
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In 1941, he became a war correspondent. Oh, my God. You mean a reporter is a spy? Yes, yes, yes. He worked for the AP and joined the OSS in 1943. Through the end of 1944, he was accepted to accompany the GBT group in return for funds and equipment support from the OSS. In a short time, he was able to hold and establish great relationships with GBT.
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From the beginning of his work with GBT, Phin continuously considered using Vietnamese groups for intelligence. GBT members expressed their attitude against working with the Indo-Chinese, but Phin also queried Chinese General Chen, C-H-E-N, for the reason behind the Chinese objection to using Vietnamese agents. Chen's response was decisive. Quote, they aren't to be trusted.
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They are not really interested in the war against Chinese. It's true that they are anti-Japanese, but they are equally anti-French. Well, no shit, because they're occupying their damn country. To a lesser degree, they are anti-Chinese. I suppose you already heard that they confess to be pro-American. This is because they hope you will help them gain independence when the war is over and we kick the Japanese out.
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You may be approached by a group known as Viet Minh, which is more or less communist, although they pretend to be strictly nationalist, unquote. Now, what's important to understand is when we're talking about the Chinese here, we're actually talking about Chiang Kai-shek, the nationalist, or so they claim to be nationalist. They were actually more fascist, as we find out when he gets to Taiwan and declares martial law and turns into a fascist.
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Um, so again, with the, the labels, um, we're going to find out that, um, Ho Chi Minh wasn't a communist at all here in a second, but anyway, um, they basically, anytime you're in a war like this, no one wants you talking to anybody else. They want you all to themselves. So the more divisions that they can, or walls that they can create, um, because information is power in war.
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And if they have all the information and you don't because they tell you not to talk to these people because of a label, you become less effective in wartime. So you can never pay attention to bullshit like that. One of the tasks of GBT was to rescue the pilots which were downed. Gordon established a complex system for this purpose. Through the end of 1944, they heard news about a rescue of a downed American pilot by Viet Minh guerrillas.
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On November 11, 1944, a U.S. plane piloted by Lieutenant Rudolph Shaw encountered engine trouble while flying over the Vietnamese frontier and parachuted safely to the ground. Although French authorities saw this and dispatched to locate him, members of the local Viet Minh unit had reached him first and immediately brought him to Ho Chi Minh. Ho Chi Minh greeted him effusely in English and asked,
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How do you do, pilot? Where are you from? Shaw was reportedly so excited that he hugged Ho and later said to him, when I heard your voice, I felt like I was hearing a voice from my father back in the United States. Finn gave an account of this event from the Viet Minh's point of view. Quote, it so happened that while he was on his way through Cai Bang, one of his guerrilla units rescued an American pilot, Lieutenant Shaw.
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who had parachuted into the jungle when his plane was shot down by Japanese. And there was no confirmation that it was shot down. A lot of people believed that it was just a mechanical problem, but whatever. The French and Japanese actively searched for him, but the revolutionary masses protected him and brought him to Ho Chi Minh. Ho instructed the team to take Shaw over the border and deliver him safely to the American hands.
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at that base in China where the 14th Air Force is. He could hardly have guessed that this action would have proved a magic key to open doors otherwise impregnable. Ho accompanied Shaw and took him to the American base at Kunming. He refused the offered reward and requested only to meet General Chenault. However, he was politely shown the door.
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U.S. was not ready to operate inside of Vietnam with its own teams. And finally, the new Truman directive, it did not wish at this stage to quarrel with the French about the natives in Vietnam. Nevertheless, Finn called this operation, this rescue operation as a first ace of Ho Chi Minh. The second one was just around the corner. On 9 March, suddenly Japanese sent an ultimatum to the French governor.
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with the request that the French should join the Japanese in defense of Indochina in the event that the Allies began showing up in Vietnam and all of the French military and police forces be placed under the command and control of the Japanese. The time limit was two hours in order to give them the answer. The French government said, hey, I can't do it in two hours. I got to go call my guys back in France.
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So the Japanese military, at the end of the two hours, began seizing all of the French posts and taking over the administration. This was a shock and unexpected event and changed everything in Indochina. Now this territory converted to enemy hands. All the French civil and military elements were eliminated. Roosevelt's first directive was, quote,
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No equipment of arms will be given French Indochina under any circumstances. Food and medical supplies may be furnished on a humanitarian grounds, but it was not indicated that we should supply those. OSS may do as much as they can in French Indochina for intelligence purpose only and may only take such equipment and arms as necessary for your own team's protection. No sabotage work will be done.
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Most of the foreign citizens inside of Indochina were now placed under arrest or removed from their positions. And the GBT group fled to South China, which, again, had been the whole backbone of their intel network. And so now that was gone. And so OSS had to come up with a plan B. And basically, this article refers to it as the Japanese coup.
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of March 9th, silenced all the GBT and their existing networks. This meant no information coming and going on targets, air defense, Japanese troop movements, nothing, not even weather reports. Finn had just heard about the Japanese connected to a large political group who had rescued the pilot. When he asked how he might meet with that guy, it was said that he was still in Kunming and occasionally could be found at the American
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Office of War Information, where he read everything from Time Magazine to the encyclopedia. So Ho Chi Minh would sit in the offices of the American Office of War Information, which is basically Intel, in Kunming and read every single thing he could get his hands on. That's crazy. He even read the encyclopedia.
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to find out everything he could about America. The meeting was arranged for 17 March, only eight days from the Japanese coup. Finn wrote in his diary, quote, Ho was not what I expected. It seems that he had already met Hall, Glass, and Sibor, other OSS officers, but go nowhere with any of them. I asked him what he wanted of them. He said only recognition of his group.
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I told him about our work and asked whether he could help us. He said that he might be able to help us, but they had no radios, no radio operators, nor any other equipment. We discussed taking a radio and a generator and a radio operator so that they could teach them how to do it. He said that he needed arms and medicine, and it was agreed that we'd have another meeting. After this meeting, Bernard and Tan
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agreed that it would be helpful to work with this group, and we decided that one of our Chinese radio operators, Mac, Shin, and Tan, would go to Vietnam with Ho. In the second meeting, everything went exceptionally well, and they agreed on everything. Until Ho asked for high explosives. Ben promised only light weapons, medicine, and more radio sets. However, Ho had one more request. He wanted to meet Chenault.
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whom he admired and could not be able to meet previously. Now, I want you guys to understand how smart this man is, because wait till you see what he does as a result of this. And they don't even know this is going on. Finn accepted this as long as he agreed not to ask him for anything else, not supplies, not promises, nothing. The meeting came at the end of March and took place in a formal, graceful manner.
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At the end of the meeting, Ho requested a photo of Chenault, and after attaining it, he requested that he sign it. Chenault signed it and said, yours truly, Claire Chenault. Just before the voyage to the base of Viet Minh with Tan and the Chinese radio operator, Ho asked Phin for one last favor. He wanted six new Colt .45 automatic pistols in their original wrappings. Phin accepted this last request and gave them to him.
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They went back to Vietnam. After arriving in Vietnam at Bac Bo, B-A-C-B-O, at the end of April, Tan wrote his initial impression. The country where I am at is very poor. They could not afford to pay taxes and still exist. As near as I can judge, this league is quite powerful and has several hundred followers. Max Shin quickly began to teach them how to use the operator.
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Tan also gave them an account of the weapons that they had brought, rifles, carbines, guns. Ho quickly sent a first intel report to Patty in Kunming with some details about the Japanese 37th Division, their location units, names of the officers. Patty considered this a great start. As Frank Tan and Max Shin settled into their routine in the Viet Minh base.
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The GBT Intelligent Network began to take shape again. Charles Finn and Harry Bernard received the reports in Kunming and passed information to the Air Ground Aid Service, an aid organization of the 14th Air Force. Training of the cadre was not combined to just back Bo. A number of other personnel was sent to Kunming to be educated by the OSS officers directly.
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I will be very much obliged to you for taking care of our boys, Ho wrote. I wish they can learn radio and other things necessary to help us fight the Japanese. Probably this group consisted of a few men that they had trained for intelligence purposes as well. The first couriers from Bakbo brought a wealth of information from inside Indochina, including letters, maps, documents. So in other words, Ho sent them back with a whole bunch more intel.
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During these months together, Ho, Tan, and Shin developed a close friendship. He recalled, quote, my relationship with Ho became closer. I began to see him as a man dedicated his life to win the freedom for his people, unquote. During these days, Finn heard an interesting event from one of the couriers of Ho. The courier told him of the event as follows, quote, since Ho was away so long, there were rumors that he had died. Others said he had gone to America.
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when he was up in meeting Claire Chanel. When he arrived at the base, he had with him this Chinese American and these radio operators and all sorts of weapons, better than anything either the French or the Japanese had at the time. He invited all of the top leaders to a conference, not his own people, but rival groups who had used his absence to try to push themselves in his place.
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Ho told them that he now had secured the help of the Americans, including General Chenault. At first, no one believed him. Then he produced a photo of General Chenault with it signed, Yours Sincerely. After this, he sent for the automatic guns that he had asked for at the very last minute. These leaders considered Chenault had presented these presents personally to them and
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Ho Chi Minh did not clarify otherwise. So it's like that he is being an envoy for General Chenault to these potential foes that would otherwise fight him, acknowledging he's now the superior guy because he has this personal relationship with the Americans and bearing gifts to them to say, yeah, Buster, I'm in charge now. So Finn adds, soon after we dropped...
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in a load of supplies, radio sets, medicine, gadgets, weapons. This drop caused a sensation and Ho Chi Minh's stock went up even more than it already had because this was the confirmation that everything he said was true. Although Viet Minh seemed to be a powerful organization in the mid-1945s, the beginning of its armed propaganda was new. The nucleus of Viet Minh
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ICP had declared in 1941 that the watchword of the party is to liberate the Indochina people from the Japanese and French. For three years, Viet Minh engaged in little more than empty rhetoric. Foundation of its first armed propaganda brigade for liberation took place in 1944. Despite this fact, popularity of the organization seemed indisputable, especially in the North. Its attitude against famine
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gained the hearts of people. And so the leadership of Ho Chi Minh was hardly disputable. He was well known in the country and in the communist movement, according to this. But we're going to get there in a second. As early as February 1930, Ho was the chairman in a conference held for reconciliation of revolutionary groups.
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It was highly probable that the assumption of a concrete alliance with Americans might have piqued the prestige of him among these groups. While small-scale training in Vietnam base was ongoing, the routine Khun Ming had become tedious for an energetic Finn, and he had a desire to go back to the Viet Minh headquarters. His request was quickly rejected.
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But instead, another agent, Lieutenant Dan Phelan, was parachuted into the Viet Minh base in mid-June. Upon landing, he met Tan, who took him to Ho, Giap, and other Viet Minh people. In the OSS Viet Minh meeting held in 1997, Tan recollected Dan Phelan.
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was looked upon by the Vietnamese as a most sympathetic friend and a good person. Soon, like the others, Phelan began to see the Viet Minh in a new light. He wrote one of his wires, you are misunderstanding the Viet Minh attitude. They are not anti-French, merely patriots, and deserve the full trust and support of America. As Americans,
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There were only Tan and Phelan in the Viet Minh base. However, on May 16th, Major Allison Thomas received orders to commence work as Special Operations Team Number 13, codenamed DEER, D-E-E-R. His primary mission was interdict Japanese lines of communications, especially the railroad, the French colonial highways, in the Hanoi-Ningming area.
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His secondary mission was to work with guerrillas and targets of opportunity for the Air Force. Thomas's second-in-command, Lieutenant Rene DeForno, in addition to Thomas and DeForno, the DEAR team consisted of Private First Class Harry Poinier, Sergeant Alan Squires, a team photographer, Private First Class Paul Hoagland, the medic, and Sergeant William
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zelski the radio operator sergeant lawrence vogue a weapons instructor before the beginning of the mission dear team patty was instructed to um excuse me before the beginning of the mission of dear team patty was instructed to negotiate the um consulatant with french because of the discussions came to a dead end patty decided to set out um
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on his own. However, he accepted three French envoys to accompany them. July 16th, Thomas parachuted into Indochina with two American members, Pounier and Zelsky. They noticed that the Viet Minh guerrillas were armed with French rifles, a few different varieties. Accompany them were French officer Lieutenant Montford and two representatives of the French army. Whereas the Americans were treated royally,
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The Viet Minh were basically rude to the French. Thomas soon weighed up the odds and decided to return the French and work with Ho directly. While the uncertainty of the mission of Deer Team was continuing, the news of the first Viet Minh attack happened on July 16th. Viet Minh had attacked a Japanese garrison, and while it was relatively small, this was a big deal.
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In the Deer team's first official report to Kunming, written only one day after his arrival, Thomas said flatly, forget the communist boogeyman. Viet Minh League are not communists. They stand for freedom and reform from the French harshness, unquote. With the approval of his chiefs, Allison called in the rest of the team. On July 29th, the rest of the team parachuted into Indochina.
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Over the next few days, the men prepared missions, stowing their supplies, setting up training sites, living quarters, and basically touring all of the villages in the local area. As the last month of the war began, the Americans in Vietnam, unaware of the imminent defeat of Japan, began to settle into life, living among the Viet Minh.
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For the first six days in August, the Vietnamese and the Americans worked together building training camps. The instruction of American drill in the use of American weapons began August 9th, the day of the bombing of Nagasaki and three days after the bombing of Hiroshima. Unaware of what was going on, the training of guerrilla warfare against the Japanese began. On August 15th, it was heard that the Japanese accepted a surrender.
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Although instructed to sit tight until further orders on August 16th, the Deer Team and the Vietnamese American force left Tan Tre to attack the Japanese at Thai Nguyen, which was the first town to be freed under enemy hands. The relationship by Jayap Ho and Thomas Allison was extraordinarily warm, and the members of Deer Team felt disturbed by that.
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They thought that their leaders were under the full control of Diop, and they sent an ultimatum to the Japanese for their surrender. After the Japanese rejected that, this Thai-Nugent war began. It was a low-scale war, largely a symbolic struggle.
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French services in China had received information that the Viet Minh intended to launch an attack on a Japanese position in order to give the U.S. a pretext for helping them. During the battle, Thomas Allison was not with his deer team. He was rather with the Viet Minh, giving the impression that he was conducting the attack. De Forno, a member of the deer team, wrote, The war is over. Why take a chance on getting bumped off? On August 25th,
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A ceasefire was accepted by both sides without an official surrender. In the meantime, some Vietnamese, Viet Minh forces were on the way to Hanoi. Diop was instructed to leave some forces in Thai Nguyen and walk to Hanoi. Viet Minh forces were greeted with a great ceremony in Hanoi. Ho Chi Minh in a public ceremony proclaimed the independence of Vietnam.
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Although not on the stage, OSS officers were in the audience at the ceremony. And then there's some controversy. Two aircraft flew over like a flyby. And some people said that that was a formal recognition. Other people later said, oh, no, no, that was just a coincidence. And that's kind of the end of this segment of the history. And you can honestly see why.
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I started here because this, I could, I could have read some very similar story to what I just read that happened in Cuba when the OSS slash CIA went in to train Castro and Shea Cavera in the mountains of Cuba when they were preparing to take out Batista.
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This is a very similar thing that, unfortunately, our country or our intel agencies within our country has done repeatedly in our name. They go in and they find out things that we don't find. They're not declassified for 30 or 40 years. Meanwhile, they come back to us and they lie about everything that just went on over there.
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These are all the bad guys because they needed to make these guys a boogeyman eventually, even though these people had sat down, broke bread and helped us as long as it was in the OSS's, they were meeting the needs of the OSS. And then as soon as they don't need them anymore, they turned their back on them and actually began fighting them.
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That's the travesty of this whole thing. We, during the time this was happening, this is 1944, 1945. Now, if we were to go back and we look at when would we have had elections? So if we had elections in 1960, and so that would have been 52. We would have had them in 48.
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And we would have had them in 1944. So 1948 would have been basically the first elections that we had after this. And if you look at having elections, knowing that we worked with Ho Chi Minh and then we turned our back on him and allowed the French to come back in and recolonize Vietnam, would you vote for the same people the same way?
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No. And that's the travesty of this entire thing. They classify the information of who's doing what to whom for 30 or 40 years. And we never have had presidents elected based on informed consent because they don't give us the fucking information to make an informed consent opinion. And that's the frustrating thing about all of this to me.
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We would vote very differently if we actually knew what was going on. And they know that, which is why they hide the shit from us. So anyway, that's this portion of the history. Tomorrow, we're going to go back and read a little bit more about the the time frame just prior to this. So you guys can get a feel for what these people had been through.
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And now that we've got this part, which is the 44 to 45 timeframe, then we're going to look from around 45 to 55. So those are kind of going to be the time segments. And we're going to spend a good several days on Vietnam because now that we're here, there's so much of this that you're going to see.
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That we've covered kind of briefly, not like the details of it, but you're going to see how like the coup that happened in Chile and the installation of the chief of national police training in Uruguay.
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All of those different things that happened after Vietnam was modeled off of the Vietnam Phoenix program. So, I mean, we could probably spend two or three days just on the Phoenix program. And hopefully y'all watched the show last night with Alpha Warrior. I know several of you was there because he was mentioning your names. And we will go over as part of this curriculum.
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What we went over last night as well, where Michigan State University was basically going over there and training the national police to kill their citizens, torture their citizens and all that other stuff, which is basically what the show last night was about. So if you've not watched that, I'd highly recommend you go back and watch that because.
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And having dug into all of this research again, I was going to do one of the NGOs on his show last night, but I changed my mind at the last minute. I just think this is so important because so much of it's happening in the United States right now with the radicalization of the FBI, the total corruption of the CIA. And we now, I've said several times that we have Mike Benz, who is a great...
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advocate of much of what we're doing, despite not using the proper names. He focuses on the new-aged version of Operation Gladio and the cyber disappearing of people. We focus on the kinetic version of Operation Gladio and the actual assassination of people.
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The high tech version of Phoenix program is basically what he is doing. If we wanted to use common terminology, because what is happening is that they are in modern day technology, making people disappear by taking them out of banking, taking them off of social media. It would be literally like disappearing you in Chile. The fact that they're not physically killing you.
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um is i guess some um consolation prize but they are removing you from society which in some cases is more of a tormenting uh um ability where you can't interact you can't survive and you're gonna like basically you know starve yourself to death if you can't do banking and you can't um utilize um your livelihood so um
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I don't know. I think some people, you can make a case either way psychologically. It's bad. So anyway, just put that in perspective. So we're going to open it up for questions. Go ahead, Bridget. Boy, I mean, are you eventually going to cover more in Chanel's life? Oh, yeah. No, I know. I know all about her. Oh, man. I'm just, again, I'm just floored.
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As I go through these things and it expands and it expands and expands, I understand why you need so many days just to give a broad brush of what and how this is all connected and how this is all connected to this and this and this and this. One of the things that we will cover is the China lobby because that's where they all come together.
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And even after General Chenault had passed away, she carried on his work. She is as much an operator, if not more so than he was. And in the whole Flying Tiger connection to Air America, and she ended up running the Air America after he passed away. Yes, yes. You're getting that. I'm sorry. But that is the whole thing. When you get to this theater and...
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basically the entire flying tigers um you remember william polly um we talked about william polly a long time ago william polly is the one that he had the um he's a he was i mean he died he's a multi-millionaire who
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was displaced out of cuba i mean he's an american but he went down there and bought all kinds of shit he owned huge plantations he owned he was the director of all transportation under batista um he owned the airline the only airline in cuba
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And, you know, so he was one of the U.S. elites down there that got kicked out when Castro took over. He's the guy that used his yacht to take the group down there to basically assault and kill Castro. He launched an actual invasion of a foreign country off of his yacht. But he had the Curtis Aircraft franchise in Asia. He built Chiang Kai-shek's Air Force.
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In addition to buying all of the Flying Tigers aircraft and basically giving a bunch of them to Chiang Kai-shek for Taiwan's new Air Force, William Polly's the one that bought the Navy shit for him, too, basically using black funds to set Chiang Kai-shek up in his drug operations in Taiwan. It's an infested mess. Yeah, exactly.
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The connection, you know, it's just the constant connections of the daughter, the cousin, the brother, the nephew, the, you know, the keeping it in the family and keeping this all connected. And then, and so you can see how this, just like a spider web, it just nets out and weaves through like a basket. It's incredible. Yep. Go ahead, Stellar. That's what I was going to say. Pretty much what Bridget said. I'm just floored.
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Just getting out of World War II and these things were already set up prior to to have all this stuff going on and they are all interconnected all over the freaking world. It's just freaking believable. It is unbelievable, except that it's all true. And what I find most interesting about this, can you imagine? I mean, I know, I guess I can't say this with.
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definitive proof at this point. But can you imagine how much more interesting history class would have been if you were actually learning the truth? Right? Oh my God, I would have been riveted. You wouldn't have been able to kick me out of history class. Yeah. I just, and we get this watered down version of it that's kind of like a brainwashing of, you know, the military could do no wrong.
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And especially when it was, you know, World War II, they all come back heroes. And it's much more complicated than that. They weren't all heroes, not even during World War II and especially after World War II. So, yeah, it's all very interesting. Always trying to explain to people that good and bad is not always cut and dry.
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And oftentimes during these elections, it's not always a good guy versus a bad guy. It's sometimes a bad guy versus a worse guy. But the biggest thing is keeping our fingers out of it. There is no logical reason why we have, one of my favorite examples of this was on actually Alpha's show.
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When he laid out all those military bases, it wasn't military bases, but all over the world on a map. And it's like, why? If we're not an invading force, why are we there? Well, I mean, they will tell you we're there for, you know, support and intelligence and all that other crap. And there may have been, you know, in the past, like the base that I was at in San Vito.
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Because you had to have a physical elephant cage in order to do the eavesdropping and spying and all that other shit. We don't need that anymore. The satellites are up in the air. We don't need anybody anywhere. And we still have all the same information. And one of the things, and I just wanted to see if you noticed this, they always do it in every, it's like the anti-communist thing. You know how you come across these things over, these expressions over and over and over again. And two of them.
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Of course, one of them is always in the name of democracy. It's never in the name of freedom. It's in the name of democracy. And also that there's always links to Taiwan. It always comes back and links back into Taiwan. I agree. What you got, SR71? Thank you, Colonel, and thank everybody for showing up. Really appreciate all of you.
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What I'm looking at, and as Bridget says, we get in there, it's a, here, here's a friendly handshake. Let me give you a carrot. And then you just stab them in the back. But what I'm seeing more and more is you talked about concerning mineral resources, concerning oil and everything else. They knew back then about the oil. You had Caltexico there. Yep. Caltech. You had the rest. They already knew where the oil was going. Yep.
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So there was no way we were going to leave. Correct. We kicked the French out just to stay there. Correct. Just blows my mind. Yep. That's why I found that part of it very interesting as well. So they had had to have been, oh, sorry. I thought you were first. So from what I'm gathering, like you guys were talking about, so this stuff had been planned.
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Probably even before World War II started then, because they're always getting things 30 to 40 years if they're trying to shut things down, correct? I don't know about that part. What I know for a fact is that during World War II, Paul Helliwell was the OSS guy assigned to Chiang Kai-shek. He was his shadow. And he goes around.
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from the early 1940s, if not 1940. He goes around and he watches this general who supposedly has these national forces. They were not nationalists. They were drug lords. And Mao was dead set on kicking out anyone dealing drugs to the Chinese people. He forbid it. And he mobilized his forces.
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to attack Chiang Kai-shek and get him out of the country because he was poisoning, drugging all of the Chinese. And Paul Helliwell watched Chiang Kai-shek pay for his war effort by selling opium to the local people. And Paul Helliwell thought it was brilliant. So he calls back to Alan Dulles and, well, Bill Donovan. He goes, hey, guys, after this shit all gets done.
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They've got so many opium fields over here in Asia. I think we need to take control over all of these opium fields, and we need to do basically what Chiang Kai-shek's doing. We need to use that money on the black market to pay for paramilitary capability. And at the same time, this is exactly the same time that Galen is telling Alan Dulles all about the stay-behind units in Operation Gladio in all of the Axis territories.
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So Alan Dulles puts two and two together. Shit, I can get black market money, and I'm going to need black market money to do black market ops paramilitary for these Gladio units. Hey, it's a match made in heaven. So he takes Galen into the United States, debriefs him on how the whole program works. Meanwhile, Paul Helliwell's over there cuddling up to Shane Kyshek. And when Mao gets to the point where he's kicked out of China, they help to include the Flying Tigers in ship.
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Claire Chennault, the guy we were just talking about, they relocate that Kunming base to Burma to facilitate the move of Chiang Kai-shek into Burma so they can protect him. And then they eventually move him into Formosa and it turns into Taiwan. So I don't know how far in advance what I have definitively proved is that it went to the beginning of World War II where Paul Helligwell is on record.
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being amazed at how well Chiang Kai-shek's network works in playing for everything in cash as he goes about drugging everybody around him. OK, thank you. Yeah. And then and then that opened up the door for things that were going on. Like there's so many ties. All right. Thank you. SR 71. Thank you, Colonel. Well, one thing I'm looking at here, one thing I'm thinking about is we haven't gotten out of the colonization mentality.
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If you stop and think about how the U.S. was created in the first place, how it came about, we were colonizers. And that hasn't changed. But the other thing I want to look back at is even starting with the Gilded Age, we had people traveling all over the world scoping what's going on, scoping what's where. You take all the magnets that at that point in time, they were all over the place.
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Their travels were unbelievable. Things that we couldn't do. Yet they saw it all. And this is where I think a lot of this is coming from. Well, the first example that I have discovered of us colonizing something was Hawaii. That's the first one that I'm aware of. Can I just say something about the colonizing SR-71? You know, we might, like the colonel said, you know, Hawaii is like...
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the only one that really comes to mind. But we are also the only country with God-given rights, with the Bill of Rights. They can't be taken away. All these other countries, they might have a constitution or something written. It can be taken away. We have the Bill of Rights, God-given. Sunshine, I don't understand the point. And Hawaii is by far not the only one. We did it to Guam. We did it to the Philippines. We did it to Puerto Rico.
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We went in and overthrew their governments and took over any resistance by landing Marines. We actually stole Panama from Colombia and set it up as a country in order to be able to build the Panama Canal. The God-given rights that we have in our Constitution does not extend to anybody whose property.
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We didn't give God-given rights to the people in Hawaii when we took it over. As a matter of fact, they weren't even allowed to vote. The landowners, they changed the constitution in Hawaii after we took it over. And the 40-some thousand Chinese people that they had imported as laborers, basically slaves, were not given voting rights at all. Now that I was unaware of. We've done that repeatedly, unfortunately. Southern Bell, go ahead.
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I've been doing a lot of, I have to, I have to agree with Bridget. If we had known this when we were kids, we would all been history majors. Knowing really, it is astonishing what we don't know. And, and I, I'm a, I'm in medical, but I love research and I have gone down all the rabbit holes.
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When you brought up opium is what caught my attention because what I had found out is so bad. George Bush Sr. tied around the CIA. They couldn't do things in that part of Asia, Vietnam. This is right before the Vietnam War, everything that was going on because currency wasn't working. So opium was the currency.
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And then they got with heroin. They sold heroin to the Vietnam soldiers, our soldiers, to finance what they were doing, which is horrific. And he knew that he would be president at some point with the CIA. We have been installing presidents and the CIA has tried to take over 56 countries. They have taken over 25 regime changes.
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Think about that. Hold on. Hold on. Your numbers are way off. Fifty six regime change. And I'm not talking about taking over like Puerto Rico. I'm talking about. No, no. We have over 80 governments. Wow. Wow. There's over 400 coups. Not that we were behind all of them. Yeah. There were over 400 coups in Africa alone. OK, well, I just did that as a continent.
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That was lazy on my part because I'm learning. I'm learning. But I was just absolutely astonished that they were using drugs as currency. And let me just add one other thing for clarification. They did not just sell and make money from the heroin to the U.S. soldiers. They did that to addict them, but that wasn't their primary moneymaker.
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They set up a network through Traficana and the Corsican Mafia initially. Yes. And then during Nixon administration, they basically assassinated the entire Corsican Mafia. That was the actual war on drugs. And they moved the Corsican Mafia processing to Sicily because the CIA controlled the Sicilian mob and their distribution network.
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They were making billions of dollars in trafficking of heroin. They were just pennies on the dollar of getting the soldiers addicted. But the soldiers being addicted in Vietnam aided them in the fact that they were less able to resist what was going on over there and came back in such a mess psychologically that there were a lot less of them to rat the bastards out.
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And then on top of it, our country treated our Vietnam vets very badly when they came home. I had a lot of family in the Vietnam War. And one of my uncles we were picking up, a woman walked by and spit on him. And he just kind of looked and said, it is what it is. But Vietnam was horrific. I come from five generations of military. I'm not in the military.
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I've grown up in the military and it is astonishing what has been done to our soldiers. It's astonishing. But I tell you, and I'm going to keep digging to learn. So, Colonel, I am so glad I found you because we need to know this. We need to know this because once we know something, we see it and we can. And we have to remember there's more of us at the voting booth.
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That's where we can enact change. And we have to learn first before we can change our behavior to know something. And then we can enact change. And I'm so grateful to have found you. So I'm going to step back. I just thank you. Thank you. Maddie, is that how you say your name? That's correct, Colonel. Thank you very much. Salute from. Oh, sorry. Salute from Maine. And I want to say to you, thank you so much for holding.
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this space because history matters. It's funny how we've come and stumbled upon opium, but a lot of people forget where the Forbes fortune comes from. It comes from the addiction, no, excuse me, addicting the Chinese people. Did we lose it? Am I still with you? I heard that. I didn't hear after you said addicting people. Oh, I'm sorry.
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I'm outside. So, and one of the things is I'm glad that you brought it. Am I dropped off again? No, I'm good. I'm just standing out here warming up. Hey, do you want to go straight to him? Go ahead. I don't know who's supposed to talk at the moment. I think Bridget can't hear you. I'm sorry. My bad. It's all right. Let me drop her down. I'll finish quick. Go ahead. Leave it to Bridget.
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What I'll say is this, is that history does matter. And everything that came up before, like you were mentioning in Vietnam, one of the things that I think of that of an American as myself is that I'm very ignorant to the history. I was very ignorant to the history of other countries, how they see it themselves, because we get a very Westernized version of what they believe themselves to be.
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And when you look at the history of China, you understand what Confucianism still means in that country right now. I'm just going to put it this way. If you're not afraid of thinking that you're tainting yourself by reading your quote-unquote enemy's literature, understanding their doctrine, understanding their way of life and their culture,
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You're very stupid. And I find we're very stupid because it doesn't seem like anybody in our government has ever done any of this. Because the way they treat the Chinese is almost specifically meant to piss them off almost at every occasion. Although we borrow how much money from that country, yet we're going to make it our enemy. What a convenient way to get rid of your debts, right? I'm just going on tangent there. But thank you, Colonel, for holding this space.
1:29:43
We have been part of colonization across the world. And one of the problems is that you can't export democracy. It has to happen on its own. You can't just throw it in there and tell them do it because there's going to be factions and sides that are going to want to control it. It has to happen naturally. All we can do is guide them to it. But other than that, if we're sitting there trying to implement our way of life into their way of life, we are wrong.
1:30:12
We have a lot to learn from other cultures as well. And I'll leave it at that. So let me just take issue with one thing you said. They are not stupid and they're not ignorant. They know exactly what the other country's culture is. They know it so well that they are purposely propagandizing those cultures to try to manipulate them. They are not doing any of this in ignorance or stupidity.
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This is all a very planned, meticulously laid out approach because what they're attempting to do is create a fascist world order in order for them to control everything. So the people are being manipulated. They're not doing it out of ignorance. That's the only thing I would take issue with. So do we have any other hands?
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Anybody else want to ask any questions? Go ahead, Sunshine. How do I get a pair of those Gladio glasses that Alpha had last night? I know, aren't those cool? They are awesome. Yeah, I can't believe somebody made those and took them. I mean, she made like 40 of them and took them and handed them out.
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Awesome. And it's great that he got a pair for you, too. I'm like, oh, that's so cool. She needs to market them. Or you should. I definitely should. We are actually working on a couple of T-shirts. So just so you guys know. But anyway, it's a work in progress. I love it. Can I ask a question about Ukraine, Colonel? Sure. Okay. They just voted down the.
1:32:23
Christian Orthodoxy Church in Ukraine. It's done. What are we doing in Ukraine? Well, they hadn't already, like shortly after the annexing of the Donbass region had basically made
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They started arresting all of the Christian Orthodox Church there. And understand that that is primarily, although it's throughout Ukraine, because there are Russians that live throughout Ukraine, those are primarily churches that service the ethnic Russians that are in Ukraine. This is just a spit in the face of Russia, is what it is. As far as what we're doing in Ukraine is...
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The same thing that we have done all over the world is fighting proxy fights for regime change in Russia. The whole reason we are in Ukraine is to agitate through a strategy of tension, which is the whole Gladio backdrop, regime change in Russia. It's the best place to run a proxy war.
1:33:37
And the way we got here is the coup in 2004 and the coup in 2014 that they used Gladio operations that they had ran in other countries before that, exact same ones that they had ran in other countries, there to get a NATO-friendly president in order to be able to begin the process of putting Ukraine in NATO. And the one thing that Putin said all along.
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As all of the rest of his border has been surrounded with NATO enlargement after they said they would not. The one thing he said, my line in the sand is Ukraine. And the dumbasses walked right over that line and he backed their ass right back up. That's what we're doing in Ukraine.
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Yeah, because I remember the coup, because this is when Biden got heavily involved. Hillary was in there, and Newland, and Soros, and all of that. What are we going to see next year? What do you think we're going to look like in Ukraine if Trump is elected? We won't be in Ukraine. I'm hoping we won't even be in NATO. NATO needs to be dissolved immediately. I agree.
1:34:56
NATO is a terrorist organization. It coordinates terror events all over the world. That has been its purpose since day one. They ran Operation Gladio. It was basically their sole purpose, cloaked in an anti-communist bullshit agenda. And as you go around and you start dissecting...
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all of the quote-unquote communist aggression that was going on back in the day, you find out as you peel back the onion, it didn't even exist. If there was any, and I will even give you the fact that there was probably some, it had no way was it what we were led to believe in any form or fashion. So I would argue that most of our defense spending, most of everything that we have sacrificed for over the last 70 years,
1:35:49
has been an entire mirage of bullshit stealing our wealth. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because now it's fungible. It's fungible funds. Fungible funds. Go ahead, Cousinette. A wonderful good afternoon. So a couple of things that I heard on the drive home, I didn't unfortunately catch everybody. Somebody was talking about China. China's actually still pissed off.
1:36:20
We are directly responsible for the opium wars in China that happened through Burma. And as a matter of fact, Orwell, his father were opium dealers in Burma, which is why he's got like that different kind of slant to all his work. At least that's my supposition with that. As far as Ukraine goes, Ukraine has had.
1:36:49
Very close ties to Israel and the United States for a very long time. This goes back well before World War II. It actually goes back shortly after World War I with the Bunda group. And they're actually Nazis. And a lot of those Nazis came to the United States. And so we've always had ties with Ukraine.
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They've always been moving back and forth between Ukraine and Israel, by the way. Israel has very close ties to Ukraine, which is interesting. And it actually goes back to a whole lot of religious things, which is a topic for another day. But it didn't just happen in 2014. It didn't just happen in 2022.
1:37:43
The United States has been in Ukraine for a long time. And the other thing, too, guys, the Dominion servers, the ones that are in charge of our elections, that Dominion is in Ukraine. And those guys are actually Ukrainian. Is it Dominion, boss? I can't remember. Dominion, the Ukrainian guys. Bridget, remember when you kept on getting bounced out that day? Yes. Yeah.
1:38:14
Ukrainians, right? And that was through Dominion. The only one that I'm aware of is in Serbia, not Ukraine. Yeah, there's Dominion servers in Ukraine as well. And the founders for our election systems are actually both from Ukraine, although they call themselves Russian citizens. But you have to remember that the wall didn't fall.
1:38:44
You know, the whole breaking up of the Soviet Union wasn't until 1991. So at that point, Ukraine was still part of the Soviet Union. So they call themselves Russian to get out of it. But they're actually Ukrainian because anything prior to 1991 or two is really Soviet Union.
1:39:06
But anyway, so the servers are in Ukraine. Take it for what you will. And all of our bio labs, not for nothing, guys. Right. All of our bio labs are in Ukraine. Not all of them. We've got labs everywhere. Well, OK, so I'm sorry. But and that's one of the first things. So if you look at what Russia did, I'm sorry I didn't see who was asking questions about Ukraine. But if you look at exactly what Putin did, he went right to the nuclear power plant to gain control over that.
1:39:36
Because there's always talks of dirty bombs with the Ukrainians. And he went right to the bio labs. And he knew where those bio labs were because they're all Soviet era bio labs. So Russia was well aware of where all those bio labs were. And he went to the baby farms because they also knew where all the baby farms. So all the child trafficking that's going on, a lot of it is coming out of Ukraine.
1:40:01
And there are horrible stories out there. Let me tell you something about what they actually do to those children. The Russian reports because the soldiers go in and rescue these children and it is absolutely horrific. But anyway, they're they're also doing human harvesting of those children as well. Yes, ma'am. What happens is if they're not really cute.
1:40:26
So there's two ways for the kids, right? So they have the baby farms and they have all the children. And if they're really pretty children, they can sell the children to like the rich elites that want babies, right? If they're ugly children, then they either harvest them for adrenochrome and suck them dry that way, or they just outright organ harvest out of them and sell them. And you know who's one of the biggest buyers for those organs? Israel. So just saying.
1:40:55
But I'll land there because that's obviously a topic for another day. But I didn't want you to think that, you know, Ukraine isn't being paid attention to. I watch them like a hawk. I'm all over them like a pig in shit. Sorry, boss. That's OK. So the only other thing I want to clarify, when you talked about the opium wars, the things that are actually referred to as the opium wars were the two wars that the UK had with China.
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where they were forcing Indian opium into China to drug all the Chinese. But you're absolutely right on the actual Chiang Kai-shek of his, which the opium wars that the UK was involved in, referred to as the Boxer Rebellions, happened with Chiang Kai-shek's predecessor.
1:41:46
When Chiang Kai-shek got in charge of the KMT army and they began basically doing exactly the same thing inside of China, when Mao kicked him out, basically all they did was relocate him to Burma. And the Burmese government tolerated that because they were making a bunch of money off of it. They were getting black ops money as well. But at one point, they decided that there was too much shit going on.
1:42:15
And they kicked them, kicked Chiang Kai-shek out. And that's when the U.S. and William Pauly and the CIA and everybody else all got together and plopped him down in Taiwan and basically changed the KMT army that had been doing all of this to a political party that is still in charge of Taiwan today. Just the, you know, the kids of the kids.
1:42:43
But it is still basically ran. And for the first 40 years that Chiang Kai-shek was in Taiwan, he declared martial law right after getting there. It was ran as a dictator for 40 years. It wasn't until up to the 1980s that they were even given the ability to even have an election that was an actual election. And I'm not even sure that their elections are even fair because it's basically a one party.
1:43:13
Despite all of the trappings, it is still basically a one-party country. They have remained at a stranglehold over power of Taiwan ever since. So it's just a crazy mess. And we'll get to Taiwan and their history and their creation of the World Anti-Communist League as a controlling factor for...
1:43:36
operation gladio and they used it as a guise to meet all over the world and some of the people you know like um pepsico and those people that paid for them having a meeting in dallas and um yeah it's a big sordid mess um that's kind of the reason why we saved asia um for last um from my perspective because it is the biggest cesspool of this operation although most of the time
1:44:05
Everybody refers to Europe as the impetus for it. But if you step back from Gladio, from just the paramilitary terrorist attacks that they orchestrate, and you look at what's behind the curtain, you have to address the human trafficking, the drug trafficking, and the weapons trafficking, because that's what pays for the terrorist events. And the seat of all of those originated in the Asian theater.
1:44:35
And so that's kind of we we now understand what Operation Gladio is. We understand what the paramilitary we saw the results. We know that there's an international syndicate and it's all being done for the resource control. Now we're looking at underneath the tent as to how the whole thing.
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was allowed to be facilitated for so long. And that's where you get to the drug trafficking, the human trafficking, and the weapons trafficking. And the origination of all of that is in Asia, and it started with the Korean War. So go ahead, Chris. Hi, y'all. Hi, my name's Chris. Some people call me Kenny Broadstone. I'm new to this space here. I've never done this before.
1:45:30
Speaking to weapon trafficking, sticking to what she was saying, I do believe that while weapon trafficking is certainly an issue, especially in more recent events, I just think that...
1:46:02
While I respect the honorable discourse by y'all joining the group and really discussing big issues, I don't think it's on the top of my list of issues, you know what I mean, saying it quiet. But I just don't believe that this is what we really should be worrying about. I mean, shit, Trump was just shot in the ear and we're talking about weapon trafficking. Come on, guys.
1:46:31
Chris, I hear you. Lima Charlie, brother. This is a little bit deeper down that rabbit hole. This is kind of tapping into why President Trump was shot. You're not, sir. I respect that. But you're not getting what I'm getting at. We've got millions of illegals pouring down our border. Millions of illegals down our border. And we're talking about weapons. Don't mute me, you communist. That's a troll, by the way.
1:47:01
This guy's a troll. Yeah, get him off. I don't know who the hell the co-host is because I don't see anybody. But yeah, that's just bullshit right there. Anyway. Yeah, that was fun. Dumbass. Huh? Colonel, I'm sorry to regret to inform you that I came ill-prepared. I don't exactly have all the documents my grandpa had, but anyways, it's a lot. So now that you're tapping into Vietnam, if you want to
1:47:33
get together with me so I can give you everything that I have and just cover bases on what you already have and stuff like that. I don't know how long you're going to be on Vietnam, but I'm willing to give it all to you. We're going to be here for several days. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you, Colonel. Several days. Yeah. Because there's so much. Colonel, if I may, you've got a few out here that had their hands up that I don't know if you're seeing them or not.
1:48:02
I don't see any hands up at all. Southern had her hand up. She just closed it down. Melody had her hand up. Where's Melody? I don't even see a Melody. She may have left. Yeah, I don't even see a Melody. I don't even see speakers. I only see you. I don't see anybody with a mic. I see Southern, but I don't see her hand up. I'll just put it that way. The space is protected.
1:48:38
What do you mean protected? These were good hands to shed some light on the truth, Colonel. I think that there is a lot of wonkery that goes on in all of our spaces. Just saying. I'm glad you picked up on the Alice in Wonderland. Ever since the very first time.
1:49:08
Right. What gave it away? The very first time that we were on Trump frogs spaces on Monday night, I was dropped no less than 40 times. The bots, the system, whatever it is, kept taking my mic and dropping me. I've never seen anything like that. It has gotten gradually better, but.
1:49:37
I've been kicked out of my own space at least 10 times since I started hosting them. When Elon and Trump had their debate and they mentioned the DDoS attack, that's when they made the flip to the switch so that the spaces could be protected. There are still bugs, but you should be good unless there's connection issues or things like that. That's kind of what I meant by the space is protected.
1:50:04
No, they're not. Cause I missed that whole transaction because my thing went quiet. It does that all the time and I couldn't hear anything. And the only time I can, when I was gotten, um, um, hearing again, just, just now. And that happens all the time. You can talk to, um, um, golfing about it. Cause I'm always like, you got to bring me back up. I can't hear anything. And a lot of times I'll just stay there cause I can see the mics and stuff and who requests, but I don't hear what's going on. And that's what just happened now. Otherwise I would have, um, but I kicked that guy out. I heard the last part of it.
1:50:33
Same thing here. Actually, the reason why you kept seeing me drop down and back up is I was having the exact same issue. How many times? Four times today? Yeah. I could hear that guy, but I couldn't see him. When you were on Trump Frogs, that space, that first one, it was unbelievable. And I don't know how you didn't get so frustrated and just quit because it was...
1:51:03
On your end, it had to have just been the worst because they know us that were just trying to listen was hard. Yeah, so I was very frustrated. I was very frustrated, but anybody that knows me knows I don't quit at anything. So if that was their goal, they were pissing up the wrong rope. James 47 says, resist the devil and he will flee from you. Well, I'm a good resistor. Or just boot him out of the space.
1:51:35
Someone dropped him down, and then I found him again, and then I did. I removed him from the space. Evil be gone. We rebuke evil in the name of Jesus. We rebuke all evil. Thank you, Jesus. Stellar, can I borrow you at work, actually? You could just sit there. Absolutely. Okay, yeah. So you could just sit there and say, not today, Satan, every time I point.
1:52:03
That's what I'll do. I will do the hashtag for that and get that viral, too. There you go. Not today, Satan. The closer you get to the truth, the more they try to silence you. It's just amazing when you have the right people behind you, you know? That's exactly true. Well, when Colonel Towner's talking about that space, so not only was she dropped down a crap load of times, didn't we have to restart the space at least two or three different times? Well, I don't know. I went there most of the time.
1:52:33
Yeah, because the space kept getting bombed. I think like three or four different times that she's been in. And so I had to start, I was like, well, maybe, I mean, because that was it. It was in the beginning stuff, but there's still times, a lot of times in her spaces that we get dropped out a lot. And when we first started doing this, I don't know, we've probably been doing this like six weeks now. The first week.
1:53:01
We probably had three or four of them where they're basically in two parts because they just crashed the entire space. However, that happens. I don't I don't pretend to know. It's just they basically get a bunch of it's called zombies. That's like the easiest way to explain it. They get a bunch of zombies and then they just flood you with network traffic until it crashes, which is it's been around for a while. But the nice thing is, it seems like.
1:53:29
Whatever Elon has done, it's added another layer of DDoS protection, which is nice. It's called direct denial of service. Yeah, it is definitely better now than it was. It's still not perfect, but it is much better. That's just the problem. That's just the fallacy with technology. You can try your hardest to make it perfect, but it'll never be perfect. Right. Yeah, no, and it's improved in things. But I mean, even just the other night that golfing had the pond open, that.
1:54:00
That room crashed when we started talking about Michael Jackson or Prince and JFK Jr. You know, we were going down that little rabbit hole and stuff, you know, because of all the crap that goes on. Well, as soon as we started talking about that, and I think, you know, I might have said, they just, and it just totally, it just crashed. That's, I mean, yeah, it happened the other night with.
1:54:25
Kimmy's space also, people started talking about something apparently that they didn't want us talking about. And it does. It just crashes. It's called trigger words. I mean, it's so synonymous to social justice wear, right? You say the wrong trigger word and your space gets nuked. That's why I spent a long time speaking in Alice in Wonderland is because the last time, every other time I've tried to share light of the puzzle that I'm trying to solve and just get other people that actually know their history and stuff to help me solve it.
1:54:56
I had to speak all cryptically because if I said the wrong word, my whole X account got nuked. And it's not even Elon's fault. Well, they keep shadow banning Kuznets, Colonel Towner, Bridget. They keep shadow banning him. So it's the same thing that they're doing with the spaces. They're just trying to, whatever it is, whatever the AI still that's in there that hasn't been replaced.
1:55:23
from Twitter or whatever, but that stuff is still there. And the shadow banning is totally fricking real. Cause I, I do, I stock their pages and you know, stuff like that and just try to retweet. Sometimes I try to add people in. Now I'm a little creeped out. Well, what's really interesting to me about. Cause I'm a stalker. Oh, can I just say something real quick before I forget just FYI about Michael Jackson. So if you look at the scenario,
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Right. With him. You know, they offed him the exact same way they did his father in law. Funny that Marilyn Monroe. That's all I can say. I'm going to I'm going to digress because the closer I start dropping this. That's a little bit different to understand about Marilyn Monroe. You have to understand about Giancarlo and Kennedy. Oh, you're so based, cousin. So anyway. Yeah.
1:56:29
They just suck. And their stuff from a while ago is still happening now and is ramping up like crazy. And now not only do we have to deal with like the dumb ass people that are just, you know, zombies, but we're dealing with the AI too. It's just, you know, it's just one thing after another. It's just insane. I definitely agree. All right. We're going to, we got two minutes left in our two hour window.
1:56:59
Any last comments? Can I go off topic? Oh, I was going to say one thing too. Okay. Are you guys watching what's going on with BRICS and stuff like that and seeing how all of these things are starting to come together with the world, you know, not only with the governments and exposure, with all of the, you know, laundering and all this other stuff.
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To see how, you know, it's being brought out to the public about all this other stuff. And then these countries that are actually going in. And do you guys realize at any given time, BRICS is ready to flip the switch. And when that happens, our reserve currency is gone. So we're not going to be the reserve currency anymore. So just beware that, you know, keep an eye on that stuff because it all ties into what's going on. Well, it is. It's part of Gladio. It may be the one thing that stops it.
1:57:57
Can I piggyback off of that as well? Just to let people know, if you haven't spent time preparing, I did not prepare at all. Personally, as an American Christian who's willing to die on his feet before he lives on his knees, trust the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul, and he will provide for you even if you didn't prepare. This isn't something to make everyone afraid. It's something to give people hope that, like, look, the power is about to be delivered back into the people's hands.
1:58:23
It's a very creative way of how to share that with the world. Amen. Well, one of the things that I feel that God is great is because there are quite a few people like me that have been preparing this way because for whatever reason, God gave me the eyes to see. And there's a lot of people like me that care about the wealth. It's all about rebuilding and making sure the future and the world is good.
1:58:48
There's so many of us people out here that are prepared, and humanity is the most important thing. We're taking our world back, and this will never happen again. And so, you know, just like Colonel Towner and Bridget and Cousinet and SR have the eyes of connecting all these other things, you know, there's a lot of us that, you know, our wallets are meant for humanity. It's not for us.
1:59:16
Yeah, bartering was always better than currency, in my opinion. You know, just trading like animal pelt for ammo. That's still currency. Yeah. All right, guys. Thanks for following the Colonel. Yeah. I love you, Colonel. Hey, if you could, Colonel, if you could DM me and just get in touch with me, I'm at.
1:59:41
I'm at my wife's today, but tomorrow I'll just start sending you everything that I have and hope that you can kind of make sense of it now that you're on the Vietnam topic. And then if you want to just jump in, I don't know, like a phone call or something, and we can kind of chat about my theories. I'll give you some of the more family stories that got passed down behind the scenes and stuff if you want. And then you can just let me know what you would like to see from me.
2:00:09
So, and then that's just for context for everyone. If you're new to the space, my grandfather was the assistant director of the Phoenix program in Vietnam. When he got back to the States, they offered him the assistant director position in the CIA. He looked him dead in his soul. He said, if you think I'm going to deal with DC traffic and politics, you can go fuck yourself. And he went and raised a family in the middle of nowhere. Amen. Wow. We got a lot.
2:00:35
Oh, that's going to be a fun space. Also, I just want to remind everybody, Colonel Towner's here every day, unless she has to postpone. But for the most part, she's here every day. If you guys can try and tag other people to come in, because all of these things do affect today. History repeats itself. And since we have the playbook and she's got the dots and everything.
2:00:55
Please, please, please. We need to get people in to understand and also retweet her posts. Retweet Cousin It's and Bridget's. Their narratives that they write to these people will put smiles on your face and raise your spirits really high because they're saying it 100% and there are no puns intended. Thanks, guys. Thanks. All right. See you guys. I don't make people smile. I'm a cynical. Wait a minute. You make me smile, Cousin It. Don't fucking lie.
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Stop sucking up. Thank you, James. Thank you, James. All right. Till tomorrow, four o'clock. See you guys then.
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▶ 36:10
“What at first may have been a casual arrangement soon converted to an intelligence organization in a short time, utilizing British funds, radios, equipment, and Chinese personnel. Gordon was joined by…”
Harry Bernard member_of
Group G host_asserted
▶ 36:40
“The other guy was actually a Caltexico employee in Saigon, which is South Vietnam, and his name was Harry Bernard. This organization, by the end of 1943, became invaluable for Chinese Genalt's 14th Ai…”
Lincoln Gordon headed
Group G host_asserted
▶ 36:40
“The other guy was actually a Caltexico employee in Saigon, which is South Vietnam, and his name was Harry Bernard. This organization, by the end of 1943, became invaluable for Chinese Genalt's 14th Ai…”
Austin Glass member_of
Standard Oil host_asserted
▶ 38:05
“And who did he work for? Standard Oil. You know, the Rockefellers. No big deal. And he just happens to find his way into the OSS. And he married a Vietnamese woman and retired in 1937. In his report t…”
Chiang Kai-shek ordered_assassination_of
Viet Minh host_asserted
▶ 40:26
“You may be approached by a group known as Viet Minh, which is more or less communist, although they pretend to be strictly nationalist, unquote. Now, what's important to understand is when we're talki…”
Ho Chi Minh recruited
Rudolph Shaw host_asserted
▶ 41:54
“On November 11, 1944, a U.S. plane piloted by Lieutenant Rudolph Shaw encountered engine trouble while flying over the Vietnamese frontier and parachuted safely to the ground. Although French authorit…”
Allison Thomas member_of
DEER host_asserted
▶ 55:51
“There were only Tan and Phelan in the Viet Minh base. However, on May 16th, Major Allison Thomas received orders to commence work as Special Operations Team Number 13, codenamed DEER, D-E-E-R. His pri…”
Rene DeForno member_of
DEER host_asserted
▶ 56:19
“His secondary mission was to work with guerrillas and targets of opportunity for the Air Force. Thomas's second-in-command, Lieutenant Rene DeForno, in addition to Thomas and DeForno, the DEAR team co…”
Harry Poinier member_of
DEER host_asserted
▶ 56:19
“His secondary mission was to work with guerrillas and targets of opportunity for the Air Force. Thomas's second-in-command, Lieutenant Rene DeForno, in addition to Thomas and DeForno, the DEAR team co…”
Alan Squires member_of
DEER host_asserted
▶ 56:19
“His secondary mission was to work with guerrillas and targets of opportunity for the Air Force. Thomas's second-in-command, Lieutenant Rene DeForno, in addition to Thomas and DeForno, the DEAR team co…”
Paul Hoagland member_of
DEER host_asserted
▶ 56:19
“His secondary mission was to work with guerrillas and targets of opportunity for the Air Force. Thomas's second-in-command, Lieutenant Rene DeForno, in addition to Thomas and DeForno, the DEAR team co…”
William Zelski member_of
DEER host_asserted
▶ 56:19
“His secondary mission was to work with guerrillas and targets of opportunity for the Air Force. Thomas's second-in-command, Lieutenant Rene DeForno, in addition to Thomas and DeForno, the DEAR team co…”
Lawrence Vogue member_of
DEER host_asserted
▶ 56:47
“zelski the radio operator sergeant lawrence vogue a weapons instructor before the beginning of the mission dear team patty was instructed to um excuse me before the beginning of the mission of dear te…”
Ho Chi Minh member_of
Viet Minh host_asserted
▶ 1:00:47
“A ceasefire was accepted by both sides without an official surrender. In the meantime, some Vietnamese, Viet Minh forces were on the way to Hanoi. Diop was instructed to leave some forces in Thai Nguy…”
Fidel Castro targeted_for_regime_change
Fulgencio Batista host_asserted
▶ 1:01:44
“I started here because this, I could, I could have read some very similar story to what I just read that happened in Cuba when the OSS slash CIA went in to train Castro and Shea Cavera in the mountain…”
United States targeted_for_regime_change
Vietnam host_asserted
▶ 1:03:30
“And we would have had them in 1944. So 1948 would have been basically the first elections that we had after this. And if you look at having elections, knowing that we worked with Ho Chi Minh and then …”
United States recruited
Ho Chi Minh host_asserted
▶ 1:03:30
“And we would have had them in 1944. So 1948 would have been basically the first elections that we had after this. And if you look at having elections, knowing that we worked with Ho Chi Minh and then …”
Phoenix Program carried_out_attack
Uruguay host_asserted
▶ 1:05:22
“That we've covered kind of briefly, not like the details of it, but you're going to see how like the coup that happened in Chile and the installation of the chief of national police training in Urugua…”
Phoenix Program carried_out_attack
Chile host_asserted
▶ 1:05:44
“All of those different things that happened after Vietnam was modeled off of the Vietnam Phoenix program. So, I mean, we could probably spend two or three days just on the Phoenix program. And hopeful…”
Michigan State University trained
Vietnam host_asserted
▶ 1:06:08
“What we went over last night as well, where Michigan State University was basically going over there and training the national police to kill their citizens, torture their citizens and all that other …”
Mike Pence member_of
Operation Gladio host_asserted
▶ 1:06:58
“advocate of much of what we're doing, despite not using the proper names. He focuses on the new-aged version of Operation Gladio and the cyber disappearing of people. We focus on the kinetic version o…”
Claire Chennault headed
Air America host_asserted
▶ 1:09:23
“And even after General Chenault had passed away, she carried on his work. She is as much an operator, if not more so than he was. And in the whole Flying Tiger connection to Air America, and she ended…”
William J. Polk supplied_arms_to
Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted
▶ 1:10:55
“In addition to buying all of the Flying Tigers aircraft and basically giving a bunch of them to Chiang Kai-shek for Taiwan's new Air Force, William Polly's the one that bought the Navy shit for him, t…”
William J. Polk financed_via
Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted
▶ 1:10:55
“In addition to buying all of the Flying Tigers aircraft and basically giving a bunch of them to Chiang Kai-shek for Taiwan's new Air Force, William Polly's the one that bought the Navy shit for him, t…”
Paul Helliwell spied_on
Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted
▶ 1:16:26
“Probably even before World War II started then, because they're always getting things 30 to 40 years if they're trying to shut things down, correct? I don't know about that part. What I know for a fac…”
Paul Helliwell proposed
William J. Donovan host_asserted
▶ 1:17:30
“to attack Chiang Kai-shek and get him out of the country because he was poisoning, drugging all of the Chinese. And Paul Helliwell watched Chiang Kai-shek pay for his war effort by selling opium to th…”
Chiang Kai-shek trafficked
China host_asserted
▶ 1:17:30
“to attack Chiang Kai-shek and get him out of the country because he was poisoning, drugging all of the Chinese. And Paul Helliwell watched Chiang Kai-shek pay for his war effort by selling opium to th…”
Reinhard Gehlen proposed
Allen Dulles host_asserted
▶ 1:17:58
“They've got so many opium fields over here in Asia. I think we need to take control over all of these opium fields, and we need to do basically what Chiang Kai-shek's doing. We need to use that money …”
Paul Helliwell proposed
Allen Dulles host_asserted
▶ 1:17:58
“They've got so many opium fields over here in Asia. I think we need to take control over all of these opium fields, and we need to do basically what Chiang Kai-shek's doing. We need to use that money …”
Allen Dulles recruited
Reinhard Gehlen host_asserted
▶ 1:18:28
“So Alan Dulles puts two and two together. Shit, I can get black market money, and I'm going to need black market money to do black market ops paramilitary for these Gladio units. Hey, it's a match mad…”
United States installed
Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted
▶ 1:18:58
“Claire Chennault, the guy we were just talking about, they relocate that Kunming base to Burma to facilitate the move of Chiang Kai-shek into Burma so they can protect him. And then they eventually mo…”
Claire Chennault headed
Flying Tigers host_asserted
▶ 1:18:58
“Claire Chennault, the guy we were just talking about, they relocate that Kunming base to Burma to facilitate the move of Chiang Kai-shek into Burma so they can protect him. And then they eventually mo…”
United States overthrew
Philippines host_asserted
▶ 1:21:12
“the only one that really comes to mind. But we are also the only country with God-given rights, with the Bill of Rights. They can't be taken away. All these other countries, they might have a constitu…”
United States overthrew
Guam host_asserted
▶ 1:21:12
“the only one that really comes to mind. But we are also the only country with God-given rights, with the Bill of Rights. They can't be taken away. All these other countries, they might have a constitu…”
United States overthrew
Puerto Rico host_asserted
▶ 1:21:12
“the only one that really comes to mind. But we are also the only country with God-given rights, with the Bill of Rights. They can't be taken away. All these other countries, they might have a constitu…”
United States overthrew
Panama host_asserted
▶ 1:21:41
“We went in and overthrew their governments and took over any resistance by landing Marines. We actually stole Panama from Colombia and set it up as a country in order to be able to build the Panama Ca…”
United States overthrew
Hawaii host_asserted
▶ 1:21:41
“We went in and overthrew their governments and took over any resistance by landing Marines. We actually stole Panama from Colombia and set it up as a country in order to be able to build the Panama Ca…”
United States targeted_for_regime_change
Soviet Union host_asserted
▶ 1:33:12
“The same thing that we have done all over the world is fighting proxy fights for regime change in Russia. The whole reason we are in Ukraine is to agitate through a strategy of tension, which is the w…”
United States installed
Ukraine host_asserted
▶ 1:33:37
“And the way we got here is the coup in 2004 and the coup in 2014 that they used Gladio operations that they had ran in other countries before that, exact same ones that they had ran in other countries…”
United States carried_out_attack
Ukraine host_asserted
▶ 1:33:37
“And the way we got here is the coup in 2004 and the coup in 2014 that they used Gladio operations that they had ran in other countries before that, exact same ones that they had ran in other countries…”
NATO carried_out_attack
Operation Gladio host_asserted
▶ 1:34:56
“NATO is a terrorist organization. It coordinates terror events all over the world. That has been its purpose since day one. They ran Operation Gladio. It was basically their sole purpose, cloaked in a…”
Dominion Voting Systems member_of
Ukraine host_asserted
▶ 1:38:14
“Ukrainians, right? And that was through Dominion. The only one that I'm aware of is in Serbia, not Ukraine. Yeah, there's Dominion servers in Ukraine as well. And the founders for our election systems…”
Ukraine member_of
Soviet Union host_asserted
▶ 1:38:44
“You know, the whole breaking up of the Soviet Union wasn't until 1991. So at that point, Ukraine was still part of the Soviet Union. So they call themselves Russian to get out of it. But they're actua…”
Chiang Kai-shek headed
Kuomintang host_asserted
▶ 1:41:46
“When Chiang Kai-shek got in charge of the KMT army and they began basically doing exactly the same thing inside of China, when Mao kicked him out, basically all they did was relocate him to Burma. And…”
United States installed
Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted
▶ 1:42:15
“And they kicked them, kicked Chiang Kai-shek out. And that's when the U.S. and William Pauly and the CIA and everybody else all got together and plopped him down in Taiwan and basically changed the KM…”
Chiang Kai-shek headed
China host_asserted
▶ 1:42:43
“But it is still basically ran. And for the first 40 years that Chiang Kai-shek was in Taiwan, he declared martial law right after getting there. It was ran as a dictator for 40 years. It wasn't until …”
World Anti-Communist League front_for
Operation Gladio host_asserted
▶ 1:43:13
“Despite all of the trappings, it is still basically a one-party country. They have remained at a stranglehold over power of Taiwan ever since. So it's just a crazy mess. And we'll get to Taiwan and th…”
PepsiCo funded
World Anti-Communist League host_asserted
▶ 1:43:36
“operation gladio and they used it as a guise to meet all over the world and some of the people you know like um pepsico and those people that paid for them having a meeting in dallas and um yeah it's …”
BRICS targeted_for_regime_change
United States host_asserted
▶ 1:57:28
“To see how, you know, it's being brought out to the public about all this other stuff. And then these countries that are actually going in. And do you guys realize at any given time, BRICS is ready to…”