Ruth Paine person
also: Ruth Payne, Payne, Ruth
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Claims (7)
Ruth Paine recruited
Marina Oswald book_quoted
“in his book. If a legend was being woven around Lee Harvey Oswald, there was nobody who did more to move Oswald's story along during his days in Dallas besides George DeMorganshield than a young housewife named Ruth Payne. It was Ruth Payne…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 1:43
Ruth Paine founded
The Devil's Chessboard book_quoted
“on a best-selling book intended to prove that there was nothing conspiratorial about the events in Dallas. Only serendipity. A generous young mother takes in family of the future assassinated President Kennedy, the future assassin of Presid…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 5:00
Ruth Paine recruited
Lee Harvey Oswald book_quoted
“The Civil Air Patrol where David Ferrari was, where supposedly that's where he met Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah, that Civil Air Patrol. Did Byrd and his associates in the national security field use Ruth Payne to maneuver Oswald into the Texas b…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 19:20
Ruth Paine spied_on
Lee Harvey Oswald book_quoted
“as the DeMorganshields prepared to go to Haiti. But if Ruth Payne was assuming DeMorganshield's role as Oswald's monitor, she was doing it, the author says, not as a witting agent. Payne would later tell the Warren Commission that she had n…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 4:05
Lee Harvey Oswald spied_on
Ruth Paine book_quoted
“It was she who most closely observed the intimate details of Lee's life. Oswald would plant clues for Ruth, like the draft of a puzzling letter to the Soviet embassy in Washington that he left on her typing desk. That made her suspect he wa…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 2:12
Ruth Paine spied_on
Lee Harvey Oswald host_asserted
“Appearing before the Warren Commission, Ruth and Michael Payne seemed confused and tentative when it came to assigning guilt to Oswald. They both agreed that while he was a man of headstrong conviction, he did not impress them as dangerous.…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 27:43
George de Mohrenschildt recruited
Ruth Paine book_quoted
“the Oswalds. Ruth had taken up Russian several years before. How convenient. And here was an opportunity to speak with someone else. It was the DeMorganschilds who brought the Oswalds to the party and introduced them. Later, JFK conspiracy …”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 3:38
Mentions (30)
▶ 14:08
Up through November 22nd, I did a deep dive on the Payne family, Ruth and Michael Payne. And we looked at everything. We looked at, again, him growing up, Marines, Soviet Union time, when he comes back from the Soviet Union, his time in New…
▶ 24:37
Believe it or not, DeMorenschild knew and had regular meetings with Ruth Payne's father, who was working for USAID, when he was in Haiti. And we know that because a guy who worked in the office in Haiti told the House Select Committee on As…
▶ 1:21:22
But no, I can't have a cookout this weekend and next weekend and hang out with you this weekend and have dinner tomorrow. It's just, just knowing what we know about like how humans interact, there are clingy people, but, but it's just, it's…
▶ 1:21:52
defaming her. I'm an attorney, so I really don't want to be sued for defamation. So I try really hard to not make any of those claims. Although, although the discovery process would be fascinating if she did, but you know, it's, there are j…
▶ 1:22:39
They started Radio Free, like the junior version of Radio Free Europe together, and they started some other stuff. And that guy's dad, his memoirs are at Princeton. He wrote Alan Dulles over 60 letters in his life. I mean, so there's just t…
▶ 1:23:07
Um, you know, and they get, people get mad that I bring, look, if Ruth Payne did, I'll say this for there to have been a conspiracy, I do think Ruth Payne would have had to be involved. Um, but if there wasn't a conspiracy, which again, we …
▶ 1:23:33
And I feel confident about some other things to different varying degrees, but those things I've staked my life on as no doubt whatsoever. So, and I would stake my life on, he did not operate alone. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. But, but, but yea…
▶ 1:24:24
what are the chances she shows up and then she goes hey lee why don't you just go to the bus station and they can come live with me for for a little while until you're in new orleans so that kind of sets the precedent she'd only known them …
▶ 1:24:46
So anyway, and then, of course, they get back and she asked Marina to live with her and says, hey, I'm going to help you with the baby because Marina's pregnant. But by doing that, by having Marina live with her and having Oswald put his be…
▶ 1:43
in his book. If a legend was being woven around Lee Harvey Oswald, there was nobody who did more to move Oswald's story along during his days in Dallas besides George DeMorganshield than a young housewife named Ruth Payne. It was Ruth Payne…
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It was she who most closely observed the intimate details of Lee's life. Oswald would plant clues for Ruth, like the draft of a puzzling letter to the Soviet embassy in Washington that he left on her typing desk. That made her suspect he wa…
▶ 2:41
She was a curious type. Some people would use the word busybody, the sort of woman who felt like she could set the world straight. And it was her obligation to do so. We've all had neighbors like that. After her husband, Michael, took an en…
▶ 3:09
She was a liberal arts educated Quaker from up north who was stuck in what she referred to as cowboy culture. Her isolation only grew when she and Michael began drifting apart and he moved out of the family's home to his own apartment in Se…
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as the DeMorganshields prepared to go to Haiti. But if Ruth Payne was assuming DeMorganshield's role as Oswald's monitor, she was doing it, the author says, not as a witting agent. Payne would later tell the Warren Commission that she had n…
▶ 4:34
Found Lee somewhat tedious and full of himself, she was immediately taken to Marina. In spite of my faulty Russian, I found her easy to talk to. Ruth got Marina's address and wrote to her soon after, asking if she would like to come visit h…
▶ 5:00
on a best-selling book intended to prove that there was nothing conspiratorial about the events in Dallas. Only serendipity. A generous young mother takes in family of the future assassinated President Kennedy, the future assassin of Presid…
▶ 5:31
In Northern California, she continues to dismiss all conspiracies in Dallas. During a recent visit to her home some 50 years after the assassination, there was only a fleeting moment when Ruth acknowledged that Oswald might have been a pawn…
▶ 5:59
pray for those of cynical intentions. She quickly nodded. My parents had a name for that, shut-eye liberals. It's a term that applies equally to Ruth Payne. In April of 63, she was 30 years old and like Marina, had two small children and es…
▶ 6:28
She would grow to love Marina as a sister. But despite Ruth's best intention, she helped lay waste to the Oswald's life. And in the end, Marina wished she had never met her. Ruth Payne has always scoffed at the idea that she played an intel…
▶ 7:01
meaning Ruth and her husband, Michael. In fact, Alan Dulles himself knew all about the unusual family background of the Paynes. It's a very interesting story. Ruth Payne's parents, Carol and William Hyde, met at Stanford University in the 1…
▶ 9:27
In short, the young Della's housewife who took the Oswald family into her care was not simply a Quaker do-gooder, but a woman with a politically complex family history. She grew up in a strongly anti-communist wing of America that overlappe…
▶ 9:56
all around her. But it was the family background of Ruth's husband, Michael, that was the most directly overlapping with Alan Dulles. Mary Bancroft, Dulles' mistress, was one of the oldest friends of Michael Payne's mother. Really? Her name…
▶ 14:57
Oswald story. The housewife who took the Oswalds under her wing had married into a family that was well known to not only Dulles but his mistress as well. Ruth Payne was aware of her mother-in-law's connections to Bancroft and Dulles. Her m…
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himself acknowledged the flat-out weirdness of such curious facts in his own characteristic fashion by laughing it off. The conspiracy-minded would have a field day, he chuckled, if they knew that he had visited Dallas three weeks before th…
▶ 19:20
The Civil Air Patrol where David Ferrari was, where supposedly that's where he met Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah, that Civil Air Patrol. Did Byrd and his associates in the national security field use Ruth Payne to maneuver Oswald into the Texas b…
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Appearing before the Warren Commission, Ruth and Michael Payne seemed confused and tentative when it came to assigning guilt to Oswald. They both agreed that while he was a man of headstrong conviction, he did not impress them as dangerous.…
▶ 29:09
like that because it was insufficiently militant. Neither of the Paynes were fond of Oswald. To Ruth, he was self-involved and ill-tempered. He was just part of the equation that she had to put up with in order to have Marina in her life. I…
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middle-aged son, Christopher, and two dozen other people lived. It was a hippie ranch. While serving with the army in the Korean War, Michael mentioned at one point during the afternoon, I thought of going over to the other side and saying …
▶ 31:46
as sure as Ruth. As he talked about the catastrophic days, he seemed bewildered, like somebody trying to explain a collision that he had survived long ago. He still wavered back and forth, just as he did with the Warren Commission. Oswald w…
▶ 1:06:06
Isn't that crazy, that story? I did not know about, I mean, I've read about Ruth Payne and her husband, Michael, and the fact that he worked at Bell Helicopter, which for those of you who don't know, has a, like a skunk works, or at least i…