Michael Payne person
also: Michael, Mike Payne, Wayne, Mike
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Michael Payne member_of
Bell Helicopter book_quoted
“She was a curious type. Some people would use the word busybody, the sort of woman who felt like she could set the world straight. And it was her obligation to do so. We've all had neighbors like that. After her husband, Michael, took an en…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 2:41
Michael Payne spied_on
Lee Harvey Oswald host_asserted
“had seen about him that indicated a man with that kind of a grudge. Michael seemed particularly at sea when he tried to make sense of Oswald. When Dulles asked him if he was convinced that Oswald was the assassin, Michael launched into a ra…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner The Devil's Chessboard Part 24 @ 28:11
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▶ 2:41
She was a curious type. Some people would use the word busybody, the sort of woman who felt like she could set the world straight. And it was her obligation to do so. We've all had neighbors like that. After her husband, Michael, took an en…
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She was a liberal arts educated Quaker from up north who was stuck in what she referred to as cowboy culture. Her isolation only grew when she and Michael began drifting apart and he moved out of the family's home to his own apartment in Se…
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She would grow to love Marina as a sister. But despite Ruth's best intention, she helped lay waste to the Oswald's life. And in the end, Marina wished she had never met her. Ruth Payne has always scoffed at the idea that she played an intel…
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meaning Ruth and her husband, Michael. In fact, Alan Dulles himself knew all about the unusual family background of the Paynes. It's a very interesting story. Ruth Payne's parents, Carol and William Hyde, met at Stanford University in the 1…
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all around her. But it was the family background of Ruth's husband, Michael, that was the most directly overlapping with Alan Dulles. Mary Bancroft, Dulles' mistress, was one of the oldest friends of Michael Payne's mother. Really? Her name…
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Where's that Lyman word keep coming up? That's a weird name. And there's so many people in this story, not the JFK story, but the Gladio story that has that name. And Ruth, Michael's mother's real name, full name is Ruth Forbes. Yes, that F…
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They didn't like Catholics. Catholics like JFK. Lyman Payne, Rue's first husband, and Michael Payne's father came from a similar background, Boston Bluebloods. Mary summed up the privilege and political eccentric world of the Paynes by maki…
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Appearing before the Warren Commission, Ruth and Michael Payne seemed confused and tentative when it came to assigning guilt to Oswald. They both agreed that while he was a man of headstrong conviction, he did not impress them as dangerous.…
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had seen about him that indicated a man with that kind of a grudge. Michael seemed particularly at sea when he tried to make sense of Oswald. When Dulles asked him if he was convinced that Oswald was the assassin, Michael launched into a ra…
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I accepted the common view that he did it. In truth, Michael never knew Oswald very well. They only talked at length on four occasions. They would run into each other on some weekends when he was visiting his kids. One evening, Michael took…
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like that because it was insufficiently militant. Neither of the Paynes were fond of Oswald. To Ruth, he was self-involved and ill-tempered. He was just part of the equation that she had to put up with in order to have Marina in her life. I…
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whom you would expect to unwittingly harbor a dangerous man like Oswald. Not at all. The Paynes reunited for a time after the assassination, but later divorced. In old age, they now live in the same Quaker retirement compound north of San F…
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middle-aged son, Christopher, and two dozen other people lived. It was a hippie ranch. While serving with the army in the Korean War, Michael mentioned at one point during the afternoon, I thought of going over to the other side and saying …
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as sure as Ruth. As he talked about the catastrophic days, he seemed bewildered, like somebody trying to explain a collision that he had survived long ago. He still wavered back and forth, just as he did with the Warren Commission. Oswald w…
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Isn't that crazy, that story? I did not know about, I mean, I've read about Ruth Payne and her husband, Michael, and the fact that he worked at Bell Helicopter, which for those of you who don't know, has a, like a skunk works, or at least i…