Souvanna Phouma person
also: Sovana Foma, Silvana Fumar, Suvana, Suvana Foma, Falma, Suvanna, Prince Fuma, Suvana Fuma, Fuma, Souvana Fouma, Stuvana Fulmer, Subana, Suvanna Fuma, Prince Sup, Soup
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Claims (7)
Jared Burke visited
Souvanna Phouma book_quoted
“Burke sat by the window as board members talked in Cambodia, and he took notes when they spoke to Sovana Foma in Laos. They visited Long Tien and Vang Pao's Hmong Army. Enormously impressed that a war directed by so few CIA field hands seem…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 33 (35) @ 29:31
J. Graham Parsons targeted_for_regime_change
Souvanna Phouma book_quoted
“Much as he did for Sukarno, Nehru, and Nasser, Eisenhower insisted that the Laos side with the Western camp in the Cold War because, again, you are not allowed to be neutral. Ambassador J. Graham Parsons spent two years discouraging the for…”
▶ The Colonel’s corner President’s secret wars Chap 14 @ 15:22
Phoumi Nosavan captured
Souvanna Phouma documented
“of any success. And by the extension of the American policy, he understood nothing about Asia or nothing about Laos, talking about the U.S. ambassador. At least, Fomi Nocevan's forces did manage to capture and jail prominent Hayothan Lao le…”
▶ The Colonel’s corner President’s secret wars Chap 14 @ 39:04
Soviet Union supplied_arms_to
Souvanna Phouma documented
“The first Soviet transport planes to arrive in the capital on December 4th, 1960, and the Russians were careful to send civilian pilots, not military. They were, quote, following the precedents already set by the U.S. But again, there's a d…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 10 @ 43:10
Air America carried_out_attack
Souvanna Phouma book_quoted
“$1.8 million, and as they considered me to be his heir, they held me responsible for the payment. In 1960, while Willauer, a United Fruit official, and Civil Air Transport pilots were participating in the CIA's preparation for the Bay of Pi…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 a @ 24:23
Phoumi Nosavan carried_out_attack
Souvanna Phouma book_quoted
“Over the next few years, excuse me, few weeks, Foma's new government succeeded in winning the approval of the king, American's ambassador, Warthog Brown, and a new but compliant National Assembly. In due course, his neutralist government wa…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 10 @ 38:01
Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered_assassination_of
Souvanna Phouma host_asserted
“Much as he did for Sukarno, Nehru, and Nasser, Eisenhower insisted that the Laos side with the Western camp in the Cold War because, again, you are not allowed to be neutral. Ambassador J. Graham Parsons spent two years discouraging the for…”
▶ The Colonel’s corner President’s secret wars Chap 14 @ 15:22
Mentions (47)
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though hardly because of any inherent aggressiveness in the Laotian people themselves, who basically were the victims of this whole sordid mess. In 1958, a non-aligned government that had been established in Laos under Prince Fuma appeared …
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fearing that this would lead to the absorption of Laos into a communist bloc, which they actually, there was no indication that that was true because the actual people that were in charge were neutral. The U.S. decided to intervene. Suvana …
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promoted to general by the name of Nocevan. His party, if you will, was called Committee for the Defense of National Interest, which had absolutely nothing to do with national interest and everything to do with Western interest. And for the…
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Over the next few years, excuse me, few weeks, Foma's new government succeeded in winning the approval of the king, American's ambassador, Warthog Brown, and a new but compliant National Assembly. In due course, his neutralist government wa…
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Proclaiming a rival revolutionary committee in southern Laos, Fumi's first announcement of his opposition took the form of leaflets dropped out of a CIA airplane. In the next three months, according to Schlesinger, a United Embassy, includi…
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It was all for Fumi, possibly with an encouragement from defense and CIA men in the field. Fumi, according to the new government, and he formed a new government and denounced the actual government of Laos. This should sound very familiar, b…
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actually in the Capitol, continued to receive some aid. Ambassador Brown still worked to bring them together, but the military support convinced Fumi that if he held out long enough, he would be able to overthrow the government that was act…
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From mid-September, Sivanikek was the scene of an increased number of landings and takeoffs by unmarked C-46s and C-47s that were all flown by Americans. These planes belonged to Air America. In October, Hilsman reported Ambassador Brown te…
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the actual government. Yet even as he did so, two men flew to Sivanik and gave Fumi the green light to march on Laos capital. The two men were not some CIA spook in the field, but John Irving II, who was the Assistant Secretary of Defense f…
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A declassified State Department cable confirms that Ervin and Riley met Fumi in Ubon, Thailand. The thrust of their discussion was that the U.S. was prepared to support, at least secretly, a march on the capital and recapture the government…
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Polarization as sanctioned by the tide blockade of Laos capital and a U.S. refusal of supplies for Suvanna to request an airlift of rice and oil from none other than the Soviet Union. So then immediately he gets accused of being a communist…
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The last weeks of 1960 saw ominous indications that anti-communist forces were only too willing to internationalize every aspect of this conflict, especially the first reports in Times and Le Monde, which is the French leading New York Time…
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The official record of these phone calls confirm Eisenhower's concern about the Soviet aircraft supplying FUMA in the actual capital, because he's actually in charge of the country, and the need to act vigorously now that we have cover of l…
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But this contradiction by the election results of 1958, the last honest election held in Laos, proved that to be not true. Though before 1954, let's see, one of the guys that was in charge, I don't know how to spell his last name. I'll spel…
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$1.8 million, and as they considered me to be his heir, they held me responsible for the payment. In 1960, while Willauer, a United Fruit official, and Civil Air Transport pilots were participating in the CIA's preparation for the Bay of Pi…
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But we cannot just blame special interests for a paranoia and a delusion of grandeur that afflicted the administration as a whole. It is important to understand why CIA moved so relentlessly to release the legal government of Silvana Foma i…
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Fuma were neutralist. The U.S. strategy of subversion practiced against Sovana Fuma in Laos was more like that practiced by Shanak in Cambodia and more conspicuously against Sukarno in Indonesia, where the civil air transport provided compl…
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But there is also instructive differences between what happened in Laos and what happened in Cambodia and Indonesia. Cambodia, and particularly Indonesia, were countries of interest to U.S. oil companies, and both Sahanak and Sukarno, unlik…
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So don't get the impression that there was no military there because there absolutely was. They were just not in charge. After the 1954 agreement, Laos had a good chance to reach its goal of independence and stability. Yeah, not a chance. I…
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So don't get the impression that there was no military there because there absolutely was. They were just not in charge. After the 1954 agreement, Laos had a good chance to reach its goal of independence and stability. Yeah, not a chance. I…
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One by the name of, and these guys have like, you know, 17 consonants. So I'm going to call this guy soup because the first four digits is actually soup or letters. S-O-U-P-H-A-N-O-U-V-O-N-G. So it's like Suphanubong, Suphanubong.…
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The Socialist Lao People Front, also known as NLHX, and especially its parent, the Laotian Communists, or the Pathet Lao, dominated in the provinces of Phong Solly and Sam Nua. In November 1958, Prince Sup,…
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accepted the king's authority within those provinces and the Pathet Lao troops were integrated into the Royal Lao Armed Forces, while the NLHX was supposed to be represented as a neutralist coalition cabinet to form under Suvanna Bo. In a c…
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We pay for people to go to civil war with each other. We actually actively encourage it because we insert people to rabble rows in order for it to occur. And then once it does, they make tons of money off of selling weapons to them. You don…
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Horace Smith initially argued for supporting the Suvanna's neutral solution and considered his policy had been undermined by the CIA, which of course it had. Station Chief Henry Heckscher refused to tell his boss, the ambassador, about the …
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It wasn't the CIA who was causing all the problems that was fired. It was the ambassador. Only three weeks after Brown's arrival, the pro-American government in the Capitol was overthrown in a coup by a paratrooper by the name of Captain Ko…
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If you label him a communist, you get to kill him. So, of course, he's going to be a communist. Hong Lee became the strongman in Laos and asked Stuvana Fulmer to form a new government. Like his predecessor, Ambassador Brown counseled Washin…
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instead of the actual government in the capital. Washington decided to take the capital position on the surface, but to secretly support Foamy on the side. The hazy length was strengthened as a result of that. He became a very important per…
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FOMA, the renunciation of all of their ties to the patent law, in effect, abandoning any chance of them ever being neutral. Subana refused. Shortly thereafter, 5412 group, you know, the assassin group, member John Irvin, I-R-V-I-N,…
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The reports of the North Vietnamese invasion of Laos, which grew from a trumped-up border incident, which was used to justify all of the military aid. Again, another false flag in order to fake the intel in order to get more money for the d…
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The Kongli forces inflicted several defeats on the Fumi's men before they retreated from the capital by mid-December. By that time, the neutralist had virtually been driven into the arms of the patent Lao because everybody else were CIA sto…
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The Kongli forces inflicted several defeats on the Fumi's men before they retreated from the capital by mid-December. By that time, the neutralist had virtually been driven into the arms of the patent Lao because everybody else were CIA sto…
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There wasn't any fucking communist in Laos before you started your shit. In Laos, the effect of the U.S. actions was to undermine the delicate political balance. Kong Lee and Ling with the hat in Lao represented one of the worst conceivable…
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of any success. And by the extension of the American policy, he understood nothing about Asia or nothing about Laos, talking about the U.S. ambassador. At least, Fomi Nocevan's forces did manage to capture and jail prominent Hayothan Lao le…
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In a feat of Laotian daredevilish, Soup converted his guards and walked out of the jail free. President Kennedy did not feel Laos was the place for a major war. In office, he used the U.S. military forces, briefly converting the PEO into an…
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Eight White Star Green Beret teams reportedly accompanied the Vang Pao forces. At this point, Kang Li's neutralist forces retreated from the capital and made straight for the Hmong Plain of Jars area to engage. Vang Pao lost his own village…
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with the military supporting its action. After the 1954 agreement, Laos had had a chance for independence and stability. A little country with a small political elite, leaders of all persuasions were well known to each other, mostly related…
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as a coalition under Souvana Foma. But the accord disintegrated when Souvana's cabinet fell in 1958. Suddenly, the CIA-supported group took center stage, gaining seats in the cabinet, formed in August, even though some ministers had lost th…
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at Dien Bien Phu. Kong Lee remained belligerent against Americans as well as the French. Americans' perceptions aside, Kong Lee became the strongman and asked Silvana Fumar to join his new cabinet. Warthrop Brown counseled Washington to coo…
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He first connected with the agency while in Laos in this unit called White Star. White Star worked for the RLAF strongman, General Fumi Nosovan. He had denounced neutralism and launched a coup to topple Suvana. So he's in bed with the CIA. …
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with Fumi, the general, by the name of John Hasey, H-A-S-E-Y. He lived next door and shared his aspirations. Another word, General Fumi Nocevan is a CIA asset with a handler. Okay, at the same time that we've got General Nocevan,…
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and then claimed that it was at the fault of the North so that we could expand an already expanding presence in Laos. Fleeing the capital after Fumi's coup, Sovana and Kong Li made an alliance with the Pei Ocean Laos. A little over two week…
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the Peocean Laos forces. They started an offensive of their own. Political intrigue had turned Laos, the land of a million elephants, into a Cold War battleground, their favorite kind. The effects of the U.S. actions would be to undercut th…
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turned off his hearing aid in the middle of the meeting because he knew he was being lied to by the CIA. Diplomacy led Harriman to Geneva, where an international conference reached an agreement in 62, though the end neither side observed it…
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Now the Pathan Lau attacked the neutralist forces who eventually joined the RLAF. The war resumed. Suvana Foma secretly asked the U.S. for help and Kennedy agreed. In late 63, Kennedy designated the CIA as executive agent for the Laotian pa…
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Ambassador Leonard Unger had the helm during the initial phase of the Laotian War. He was fluent in both Thai and Lao. Deeply interested in the land of the million elephants, meaning Laos, Unger successfully protected Suvanna when coup atte…
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Burke sat by the window as board members talked in Cambodia, and he took notes when they spoke to Sovana Foma in Laos. They visited Long Tien and Vang Pao's Hmong Army. Enormously impressed that a war directed by so few CIA field hands seem…