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Hmong people organization

also: Hmong tribesmen, non-communist Hmong area, Hmong tribal village, Hmong villagers

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Vang Paoperson · 47Laoscountry · 25CIAintelligence service · 23Vietnamcountry · 20United Statescountry · 17Plain of Jarsplace · 16Thailandcountry · 15Air Americaorganization · 15Communist Party of Chinaorganization · 10North Vietnameseorganization · 7U.S. Air Forceorganization · 6Long Tiengplace · 6Phoumi Nosavanperson · 61954 Geneva Agreementevent · 4Lima Sitesplace · 4Operation About Faceoperation · 4Souvanna Phoumaperson · 3Dry Season Offensive 1969event · 3Bill Lairperson · 3Ted Shackleyperson · 3Armée Clandestineorganization · 3Lai Phongperson · 3Washington, D.C.place · 3Northeast Laosorganization · 3

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Air America supplied_arms_to Hmong people host_asserted
“short takeoff and landing aircraft, but because of the danger of enemy fire, the American and nationalist Chinese crews usually relied on parachute drops of guns, mortars, ammunition, rice, and even live chickens and pigs. Air America's pla…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 b @ 32:46
French Military trained Hmong people host_asserted
“short takeoff and landing aircraft, but because of the danger of enemy fire, the American and nationalist Chinese crews usually relied on parachute drops of guns, mortars, ammunition, rice, and even live chickens and pigs. Air America's pla…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 b @ 32:46
Phoumi Nosavan recruited Hmong people documented
“Hmong came about in the fall of 1960 when the tribe began to draw military supplies from Fomi Nocevan. These could only have been moved by the CIA. When Fomi's forces succeeded in capturing the capital, the Hmong openly declared their alleg…”
▶ The Colonel’s corner President’s secret wars Chap 14 @ 33:22
Edgar Buell funded Hmong people documented
“Buell started airdrops of rice into the mountains and using blind drops at first because the whereabouts of them were unknown. Buell left his embassy desk job to parachute into the mountains himself, walking through the forest and personall…”
▶ The Colonel’s corner President’s secret wars Chap 14 @ 47:41
Harry Aderholt trained Hmong people documented
“mountains, and they were working with Vang Pao. They referred to him, his nickname as Heine Adderfold. He surveyed the northern Laos network of airstrips, which came to be called Lima sites, then stayed in Laos two years to oversee their co…”
▶ The Colonel’s corner President’s secret wars Chap 14 @ 48:52
CIA supplied_arms_to Hmong people book_quoted
“But by early 1961, the United States had brought in AT-6s armed with bombs and rockets, U.S. pilots to fly them, and Special Forces White Star teams to encourage guerrilla activity among the Hmong tribesmen against the Pei Ocean Lao. Furthe…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 11 @ 45:38
CIA trained Hmong people book_quoted
“and its trail in southern Laos than with the Plain of Jars, some 200 miles northwest. This was the area in which CIA and Air America were training and equipping Hmong to be terrorists. Second, in as much as the Pei Ocean Lao objected vigoro…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 11 @ 56:24
Air America supplied_arms_to Hmong people book_quoted
“The agreements called for the withdrawal of foreign military advisors, experts, instructors, and foreign civilians connected with this operation. Yet Air America continued its airlift every single day. Roger Hilsman observed, quote, arming …”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 11 @ 56:53
Air America supplied_arms_to Hmong people documented
“The Joint Chiefs, who first, on October 3rd, officially authorized Air America flights to Fumi. Note that, as mentioned above, Air America had already been supplying Fumi since mid-September. The first Air America flights reached Vang Pao o…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 10 @ 47:15
Air America supplied_arms_to Hmong people book_quoted
“in October, and at this point, Air America began supplying them separately with their own materiel as well as special forces. Why did the U.S. officials deliberately foment a conflict between non-communist forces in Laos, a conflict that le…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 10 @ 41:55
Air America supplied_arms_to Hmong people book_quoted
“and did nothing. For the next 18 months, Laos would have two governments, each recognized and supplied by a major power. For a second time, as a year earlier, the CIA had turned into a coalition of drug traffickers to oust a clean civilian …”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 10 @ 44:54
CIA recruited Hmong people book_quoted
“A declassified State Department cable confirms that Ervin and Riley met Fumi in Ubon, Thailand. The thrust of their discussion was that the U.S. was prepared to support, at least secretly, a march on the capital and recapture the government…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 10 @ 41:26

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▶ 1:16:06 Like the bird? Project Raven or Operation Raven happened in Vietnam. That was the only one that I'm aware of. That was the CIA flying in. Basically, they had a bunch of military pilots that they brought into Thailand, told them to put all t…
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▶ 20:08 two military battalions to accept integration into the royal Laotian army. One accepted, and these two elements were sympathetic to the Pathan Lao, but the other comprised largely of tribal Black Thies, Hmong, and Kast minorities.…
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▶ 21:00 eventually led to the construction of mountain airstrips for Air America and the Hmong in the same region. On March 31, 1959, Civil Air Transport, Inc., a CIA proprietary, had changed its name to Air America. It also led to outbreaks of spo…
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▶ 21:57 what they labeled as communist forces inside of Laos, which were people who didn't want Laos to be the opium trafficking capital that it became. The first allegations of cross-border fighting began July 30th at a small border post mainly co…
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▶ 41:26 A declassified State Department cable confirms that Ervin and Riley met Fumi in Ubon, Thailand. The thrust of their discussion was that the U.S. was prepared to support, at least secretly, a march on the capital and recapture the government…
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▶ 44:54 and did nothing. For the next 18 months, Laos would have two governments, each recognized and supplied by a major power. For a second time, as a year earlier, the CIA had turned into a coalition of drug traffickers to oust a clean civilian …
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▶ 47:15 The Joint Chiefs, who first, on October 3rd, officially authorized Air America flights to Fumi. Note that, as mentioned above, Air America had already been supplying Fumi since mid-September. The first Air America flights reached Vang Pao o…
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▶ 1:02:53 And so I'm going to say that's not likely, but that doesn't mean that there are not indigenous people there that formed such a strong bond with the CIA, like the Hmong, who would not come to because they and I don't want to use the word bra…
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▶ 1:03:23 They were sold a bill of goods as to the CIA being their representative to their own government because they were manipulated. The only reason the CIA did anything with the Hmong at all is because they had the majority control over the opiu…
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 11
▶ 44:59 Bernard Fall estimated that the fighting in Laos in 1960 through 62 involved relatively small forces, many of whose men were of the same Thai Hmong stock as the tribesmen on the Laotian side, not even really Vietnamese. The British observer…
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 11
▶ 45:38 But by early 1961, the United States had brought in AT-6s armed with bombs and rockets, U.S. pilots to fly them, and Special Forces White Star teams to encourage guerrilla activity among the Hmong tribesmen against the Pei Ocean Lao. Furthe…
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▶ 55:55 101 was hit over the plane of jars, but it made it back to Bangkok. The reconnaissance flight continued until May 1964, when they were belatedly authorized by a new administration that had came to power in the United States, meaning LBJ. Th…
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 11
▶ 56:24 and its trail in southern Laos than with the Plain of Jars, some 200 miles northwest. This was the area in which CIA and Air America were training and equipping Hmong to be terrorists. Second, in as much as the Pei Ocean Lao objected vigoro…
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 b
▶ 22:02 The second reason closely related is that the CIA-backed conspiratorial intrigue to gain control of the Laotian government was also de facto struggles to consolidate the opium trade. The defense of a remote region in northeast Laos led to t…
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 b
▶ 22:31 Oops, hold on. Sorry about that. My stream over there on Rumble got interrupted. Let's see. KMT planes and personnel flew to these airstrips under the cover of a Laotian airline. In that way, the Hmong opium production could be denied to th…
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 b
▶ 23:08 This was not a trivial matter. Laotian opium production concentrated in the Northeast was in the order of 50 to 100 tons a year and constituted the country's most valuable export. In retrospect, it appears that the CIA's efforts in Laos wer…
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▶ 32:19 In 1960, the largest of these operations was the supply of fortified positions of the 45,000 Hmong tribesmen fighting against the Laotian forces behind their lines in northeast Laos. The Hmong were the hill tribesmen, which we talked about …
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 b
▶ 32:46 short takeoff and landing aircraft, but because of the danger of enemy fire, the American and nationalist Chinese crews usually relied on parachute drops of guns, mortars, ammunition, rice, and even live chickens and pigs. Air America's pla…
The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 9 b
▶ 33:13 provided a good indigenous army for the Americans. Together with their CIA and Special Force quote-unquote advisors, the Hmong were used to harass everyone else, to include the opposing forces in Laos and in North Vietnam. In the later 1960…
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▶ 3:21 who was known as the crocodile and his influence in Washington, D.C., and how they were basically going to work with the Hmong in theater. So as boss in the Laotian capital, Sullivan could be certain that the American mission would pursue t…
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▶ 9:09 Because Air America owned no C-130s, the Air Force lent it some for their special air warfare from their E-flight at Okinawa. Of four Air America crews trained on C-130s in the mid-1960s, one was left by 1970. So the hub of the Hmong War wa…
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▶ 10:35 officers club. They also had rescue helicopters located there. Surrounding the base was a Hmong town that grew to a population of approximately 40,000 people. There were no paved streets or streetlights, but it was all of the shops there we…
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▶ 11:03 Vang Pao imported a Cadillac and a road was built up the ridge to connect the airbase with another village. Vang Pao had his headquarters at a place called Lone Tin, together with a propaganda outlet that was basically like Radio Asia. With…
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▶ 13:54 These are not separate. They're not actual competitors. The attacks in support of the Hmong were also carried out from Thailand by Air Force T-28s in jungle gym type units. A few of the planes were given to the Laotian troops to lend creden…
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▶ 16:19 to have air and sea ports accessible by these people. It wasn't because they just was cooperative. They were paid to do it. In 1964, the Hmong units cooperated in an ambitious counteroffensive during the rainy season, attacking...…
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▶ 17:15 Forces regained critical positions on the Plain of Jars before the rainy season ended in November. The retreating Peot and Lao and the North Vietnamese troops were repeatedly ambushed by the Hmong. Operation Triangle set the pattern for the…
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▶ 18:53 having security there to protect the poppy, they wanted a distraction for the North in order to be able to do what they wanted in the South. Apparent success in 1964 and 65 pleased Washington. The Hmong program was something of a showcase. …
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▶ 30:02 stationing AC-47 gunships in Thailand for the first time. By mid-1966, three had gone down over Laos because they had been shot down. Americans in Laos began to collect hostile fire pay beginning in January 1966, when they're not supposed t…
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▶ 30:32 During the dry season, the opposing forces had cleared several of the provinces, but the Hmong and some of their irregulars had took the hills in what basically amounted to a guerrilla resistance. Later that year, the CIA quietly shifted it…
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▶ 32:24 was called Project 404. It became a Lima site designated as 85. Pony Express lifted 150 tons of equipment to the site for the radar installation and a dozen Americans were required to run the equipment. Fang Pao's Hmong were asked to defend…
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▶ 33:40 The North Vietnamese made a concerted effort to knock out this installation. In one of the few recorded instances of North Vietnamese bombing, in January 1968, two Soviet-built transports modified to carry bombs were actually shot down atte…
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▶ 35:59 The longer they're fighting, the more opposition they're having with the local population, which is inevitably what happens because we're not supposed to be there. The northern Vietnamese contingent comprised another 34,000 combat troops, 6…
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▶ 36:58 more specifically constant support from AC-47 gunships from the 14th Special Operations Wing. The unit's operation officer, Colonel William Ginn, G-I-N-N Jr., met with Vang Pao to explain the air support system and promised that no more Lim…
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▶ 37:28 to keep them safe. North Vietnamese attacks failed in May, but again in June, Lima Site 108 was overran, necessitating another air rescue. Vang Pao did not lose many more positions and even managed to recapture a couple. Even Bill Sullivan'…
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▶ 47:31 on Symington's change of heart as dishonesty. And in a 1981 interview, Helms said that when Senator Symington got up and started talking about a secret war, he knew far better than that. One element that may have helped sour key people in W…
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▶ 50:49 But its attitude was ambivalent at best. Tony Poe, for example, threatened to throw out of his plane anyone carrying drugs, but he did nothing about the caravan traffic or drug laboratories in the sectors where he was in charge. Nor could t…
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▶ 59:15 Because that was the whole purpose. They want us drugged and stupid. All right. So North Vietnamese dry season offensive of 1969 climaxed with the loss in late June of the Hmong LS-108, the largest airfield in northern Laos, which the royal…
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▶ 1:01:36 now agreed to provide some support because they had been given more misinformation, the CIA lying. Several of the largest towns on the plain was targeting and were now being destroyed by bombing. The offensive onto the high plateau was to b…
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▶ 1:02:06 to coordinate plans for the attack, which drew the code name About Faith. In August, the secret army moved north and Air America helicopters lifted the Hmong special guerrilla forces to key points. Vang Pao was chosen because of the Laotian…
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▶ 1:02:38 In 1968, as a gift, Vang Pao gave President Johnson a flintlock musket that the Hmong had for, I mean, it was an antique. On two occasions, the Americans rewarded Vang with secret visits to the U.S. On one of those trips, Vang was referred …
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▶ 1:03:09 During the other trip, Vang was taken to see Colonial Williamsburg in Disneyland with six wives installed. The Hmong chief had a lot of shopping to do. Disneyland, the CIA, reciprocated Vang's gifts and gave them a replica of a Zorro costum…
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▶ 1:03:38 called Operation About Fate. The secret army spilled onto the plain of jars from the mountains and about 15,000 men, according to Lau's sources, the CIA was backing him with a command team of three officers. About 30 more Americans were in …
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▶ 1:04:31 There was estimates of a total number of CIA officers at this point engaged in this to be about 50, but it could have been as high as 70. There were also military attaches that were involved, and the Hmong Army, with its American support, w…
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▶ 1:05:01 Hmong bases along the way. At a critical juncture of the campaign, the Vang Pao dressed up in his Zorro suit to visit the Plain of Jars. But the success was deceptive. Operation About Face proved to be the high-water mark of the Hmong in th…
The Colonel’s corner President’s secret wars Chap 14
▶ 32:52 most part of the panhandle opposite South Vietnam and Cambodia borders were the KHA, the White Star was soon to extend to them as well. The biggest tribal mobilization of all and the very foundation of the CIA's secret war in Laos was among…
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▶ 33:22 Hmong came about in the fall of 1960 when the tribe began to draw military supplies from Fomi Nocevan. These could only have been moved by the CIA. When Fomi's forces succeeded in capturing the capital, the Hmong openly declared their alleg…
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▶ 33:52 The general's own troops were of very poor quality and the Hmong were very good fighters. So the Hmong held and even gained ground in the face of Cong Ly's forces, who now were augmented by North Vietnamese and their weaponry, which had bee…
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▶ 42:23 Because they share a border. So the tribes respected no borders. I'm talking about the Hmong people. And they were found in Laos, China, and North Vietnamese hereditarily. And that's basically what I'm telling you. They have people on both …
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▶ 42:53 But if you know anything about that area, it's a very lame excuse. That's why they want to keep us stupid of geography and our history, so they can sell us bullshit arguments like this. So, it is also up in the mountain area where they were…
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▶ 43:27 when both sides had been using them to generate money. Though the Hmong mostly sided with the French under the leadership, and this is back in the day, in the early 50s, Lai Phong, a pro-French notable and the first of his tribe to graduate…
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▶ 43:54 formed an important auxiliary force for the French to use when they needed to, and they were actually involved in the French failure at Den Ben Phu. One veteran of the Den Ben Phu debacle was a young officer by the name of Vang Pao, who had…
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▶ 44:25 when they were on the plane of jars trying to get the Japanese out of there. He joined the fighting forces in 1947 and became an officer in the Royal Laotian Army when that was formed in 1950. Vang stayed in the army after the Geneva Agreem…
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▶ 44:53 was mainly a politician. Vang was actually a military commander. Choosing sides was of some importance to the Hmong in the new Laotian War. Feeling too old for another war, the Lai Phong restricted himself to acting as sort of an elder stat…
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▶ 45:19 When some of the Hmong sided with the Paiothin Lao clan leader, Vang Pao made their alliance with the CIA, not directly supporting Fumi, but basically waging a parallel war. From the fall of 1960, Vang Pao forces began to receive a portion …
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▶ 45:50 Then 15 Air America C-46s and C-47s based at Bangkok moving 1,000 tons of supplies a month into the area. The Hmong force, calling itself Armee Clandestine, the Secret Army, harassed the Paos and Lao positions and made some raids into some …
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▶ 46:16 Eight White Star Green Beret teams reportedly accompanied the Vang Pao forces. At this point, Kang Li's neutralist forces retreated from the capital and made straight for the Hmong Plain of Jars area to engage. Vang Pao lost his own village…
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▶ 46:45 to the Hmong. The Peotin Lao joined in the Plain of Jars offensive to threaten the entire Hmong tribal village and the high plateau. In the spring and summer of 1961, they witnessed a mass exodus from the Plain of Jars by the Hmong. Whole v…
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▶ 47:15 to feed themselves. Total disaster was averted in large part because of the work of two Americans who organized the system that would reconstitute the army clandestine for the next 11 years. One of these men, Edgar Buell, B-U-E-L-L, was wor…
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▶ 47:41 Buell started airdrops of rice into the mountains and using blind drops at first because the whereabouts of them were unknown. Buell left his embassy desk job to parachute into the mountains himself, walking through the forest and personall…
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▶ 49:18 Highlands, the U.S. supplied network serviced by Air America, had the immediate effect of increasing Vang Pao's forces, secretly drawing unit leaders from the nucleus of the Hmong battalions, a practice that enraged the Royal Army officers …
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▶ 50:09 which the CIA had been training since the days of the Lee-Mi operation in Burma, which we went over when we talked about Vietnam. Oh, and oh, by the way, that had to do with Chiang Kai-shek as well. With his retreat from the Plain of Jars, …
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▶ 50:40 which is what they referred to him as, set out on a 58-day march across the circumference of the Plain of Jars to bring the Hmong villagers together. In December 1961, the Hmong opened two new bases farther west, which became main centers o…
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▶ 51:09 and became a major mountain commercial center and a rallying point for the Hmong. Sam Thung became an administrative and medical education center where they could train the troops. The consolidation of this Hmong refuge continued for about …
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▶ 56:11 type arrangements. Some 10,000 Hmong were formed into special guerrilla units, and they would later be supplied with 75 and even 105 millimeter mountain guns, the latter usually lifted from mountaintop to mountaintop by Air America helicopt…
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▶ 57:07 Gradually, Vang Pao acquired the image of a man who had been leading his tribe through a modern era. For the CIA, the Hmong became a model of nation building, you know, in the middle of a war. The political action approach to foster these c…
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▶ 57:34 In the 1950s, the tactic had seemed successful when practiced by Ed Lansdale in the Philippines and with Diem in South Vietnam. You know, because it was accompanied with violence. It was out of fear that they got people to comply with them,…
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▶ 58:04 carried with it new political problems. In the Central Highlands and around the Plain of Jars, the CIA was in effect creating nations within nations. Activities like those were possible only to the degree that the central government was wil…
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▶ 58:27 precisely by moving to reduce the autonomy accorded to them in the Central Highlands. The CIA relative success with Vang Pao was the result of the royal Laotian government being too weak to assort its authority over the tribesmen. From the …
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▶ 1:03:30 Ambassador Sullivan could command the CIA station and would be responsible for implementing the second of the two basic decisions made in Washington. The first had come in the wake of the Geneva Agreement when William Colby had convinced Av…
The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 30 (31)
▶ 27:39 with a handler. Suvanna, the guy that they're overthrowing, also had a CIA handler. His name was Campbell James. So they're going to try to control both sides of this, like they do in all of these things. Not merely playing both sides, the …
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▶ 28:08 who had arrived from Japan in the summer of 59, met the Hmong military commander, Van Pao, at a hut of Filipino medical staff. Over a series of visits, Methvin convinced the Hmong leader to ally with the CIA. This became Project Momentum. O…
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▶ 29:07 the Americans began channeling aid to Fumi, bypassing the capital altogether. The CIA induced Fumi to pass supplies to the Hmongs, whose allegiance were to the general. Reports of the North Vietnamese invasion of Laos following a trumped-up…
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▶ 36:08 lasting achievement of the negotiations. But keep in mind, he already has a CIA handler. Washington laughed with scorn at North Vietnamese assertions that all their forces had withdrawn from Laos. Over 40 enemy soldiers passed the Internati…
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▶ 36:37 and command the Hmong secret armies. Two agency officers, Anthony Paschepi and Vinton Lawrence, established a CIA base in the Hmong center of Long Tien. In the spring of 1963, the assassination of neutralist Laotian officials led to a fresh…
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▶ 40:09 Before Kennedy took office, there were approximately 2,500 Hmong in the secret army being trained by the CIA. Within months, the number had quadrupled. Vang drew his cadre from half a dozen ethnic Hmong battalions. Kung Lee's forces soon at…
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▶ 4:29 Congress funding stay-behind units. Vang Pao actually had only a couple of dozen at the time. But at Langley, McGeehy and other DO officers performed a paper reorganization, greatly enhancing the stated capability to justify the increase in…
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▶ 6:01 Since Project Momentum relied on close cooperation between the Hmong and the Air Force and the CIA, they were in the ambassador's office often. He became a key player in the Southeast Asian Coordination Center, which brought together the Am…
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▶ 9:04 spun an increasingly complex web. The command center had been located in Thailand, just across the border at Udorn. You know, the base we talked about yesterday that I spent quite a bit of time at. There, Bill Layer and his deputy, Pat Land…
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▶ 13:08 Shackley hurled the secret army into major confrontations with the Peocean Lao and the North Vietnamese. On his watch, Bain Powell's Hmong began to sustain serious losses. Lawrence Devlin came to Laos at the end of 1968 when Shackley moved …
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▶ 13:38 Vang Pao's losses continued to accelerate during Tovar's tenure. Tovar arrived in 1970 when the combat had intensified and the Hmong forces were falling. He introduced Thai troops in artillery and infantry roles, all the while denying that …
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▶ 19:09 and all-weather landing systems. That was the exception. Sky had a sophisticated communication center, as well as the Hmong propaganda outlet Radio of the Union of Lao Races. That's basically Radio Free Europe for Laos. The CIA base at Sky …
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▶ 22:30 Attacks in support of the Hmong were carried out from Thailand and their air force of T-28s. A few of these planes were given to Laos to lend credibility to their cover story. The T-28 force eventually attained a strength of 100 fighter bom…
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▶ 23:00 a further Laotian incarnation as leader of this formation. The fighter-bombers were supplemented by a wide range of U.S. Air Force gunships, the first of which was an AC-47, later AC-130s and AC-119s. Vane Powell's tactical combinations rem…
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▶ 23:28 The air power did succeed for quite a while, and once the Hmong got their own air unit, its pilots' familiarity with the terrain made air more effective. But Hmong objectives sometimes diverged with the American ones. A staff officer at 13 …
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▶ 23:54 They demanded Vang Pao's immediate appearance so that he could be chewed out. Told the Air Force had no control over Vang's airplanes, the general demanded that gasoline and munition be cut off, which the Air Force had no authority to do ei…
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▶ 24:24 Pop Brule at the White House. The Hmong New Year in 1966 was attended by the King of Laos and his diplomatic corps. In 1968, as a gift, Vang Pao gave LBJ an ornate flintlock musket of Hmong antiquity. On two occasions, the Americans rewarde…
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▶ 26:30 It was also referred to as Lima Site 85. Pony Express, an Air Force helicopter lift activity, moved 150 tons of equipment to the site for radar installation and a dozen Americans necessary to operate the equipment. Vang Pao's Hmong were to …
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▶ 28:31 could not be held beyond March 10th. Others believe Shackley's oddly complacent in the threat. Airstrikes would be too few and too late if they made a run for the radar site. The Hmong SGU guarding the base were driven off. Two of the CIA a…
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▶ 29:30 Vang Pao's secret army attained its peak strength during that period. It numbered 40,000 soldiers, mostly local defense forces, but about 15,000 regrouped into special guerrilla units. Yet the North Vietnamese matched their strength. Soon, …
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▶ 30:25 In at least one case, according to Shackley, CIA even planted radio beacons on a Leothan Lao unit and monitored its movements. A cycle of operations developed. During the dry season, the North Vietnamese attacked the Hmong in the mountains …
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▶ 30:55 By this time, the CIA had an actual barracks and team house at Long Tien. Vince Shields became the chief of base. Pat Landry succeeded Bill Lehrer. And the sources reported that the CIA now backdropped Vang Pao and his guerrilla teams every…
The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 31 (32)
▶ 31:26 SGU's now being brigaded together as mobile groups to increase firepower. Agency teams with the special guerrilla units varied from 4 to 12 Americans. The CIA advisors mostly contract officers from the U.S. military under the agency called …
The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 31 (32)
▶ 31:56 James Parker and Wilbur Green lived in the team houses at the bases and went into the field with the Hmong, even though there was not supposed to be any Americans. Aside from the Long Tien, there were three other CIA indoctrination bases in…
The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 31 (32)
▶ 34:21 Larry Devlin squired him around the country. He realized the war had grown. Hmong units now had to be larger to move safely. The North Vietnamese had begun using tanks and artillery. Vang Pao was literally running out of men. The wrecked C-…
The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 31 (32)
▶ 34:50 Vang Pao impressed Helms with his command presence, but the Hmong leader had been reduced to recruiting child soldiers. Kids as young as 13 were being trained by the CIA to fight. Thai mercenaries now kept up the number of troops in the Hmo…
The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 33 (35)
▶ 29:31 Burke sat by the window as board members talked in Cambodia, and he took notes when they spoke to Sovana Foma in Laos. They visited Long Tien and Vang Pao's Hmong Army. Enormously impressed that a war directed by so few CIA field hands seem…
The Colonel's Corner The Great Pretense Part 2
▶ 13:02 Another brutal truth is the CIA ran a massive drug trafficking conspiracy in Southeast Asia. Indeed, the CIA in 1967 rewarded Vang Pao, leader of the CIA-backed Hmong army, with his own airline so that he could ferry opium from the CIA base…
The Colonel's Corner The Medusa File by Craig Roberts Part 9
▶ 11:04 Thousands of pounds of bombs rained down on the mountaintop, virtually destroying what remained of the site. As this was happening, the Hmong and Thai defenders had managed to break contact and had reached a rallying point where heads were …