Tran Ngoc Chau person
also: Colonel Tran Ngoc Chau, Chow, Van Thou, Mr. Chau, Mr. Chow
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Claims (6)
Ngo Dinh Diem appointed
Tran Ngoc Chau book_quoted
“And this is Tran Ngoc Chau is one of his original army officers that was assigned to the South and has now basically defected. Mr. Chau eventually attracted the attention of President Ngo Dinh Dem, who assigned him to work on the counterins…”
▶ Operation Gladio Vietnam Part 3 @ 57:07
Ngo Dinh Diem appointed
Tran Ngoc Chau book_quoted
“In 1962, Dem appointed Mr. Chow as chief of a large province along the Mekong Delta. Mr. Chow spent much of the next three years experimenting with alternative counterinsurgency methods. Mr. Chow quickly saw the government face several over…”
▶ Operation Gladio Vietnam Part 3 @ 57:35
Nguyen Van Thieu removed_from_power
Tran Ngoc Chau book_quoted
“If you read other accounts for this, he was driven out of the program because he was not as ruthless as they wanted him to be. In the wake of the 1968 Tet Offensive, Mr. Chow began to call for a negotiated settlement of the war. This earned…”
▶ Operation Gladio Vietnam Part 3 @ 1:07:46
Tran Ngoc Chau founded
Phoenix Program book_quoted
“Mr. Chow's second innovation was the creation of what he called – and see, the New York Times isn't going to tell us these are CIA ideas. They're going to pose these as if they were the indigenous Vietnamese. They were not. These are CIA id…”
▶ Operation Gladio Vietnam Part 3 @ 1:02:55
Everett Bumgartner introduced
Tran Ngoc Chau book_quoted
“introduced, gotten to John Paul Vann, the senior advisor to the 7th Division, this whole mission, and also Colonel Tran Ngoc Chau, C-H-A-U, who was a controversial province chief. Oh, yes. And that's the guy that went to, they brought him t…”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam Phoenix Program Part (4) @ 1:10:28
Tran Ngoc Chau member_of
South Vietnamese Psychological Warfare Service book_quoted
“And while he was there, his roommate was Nugent Van Thou, the guy that we were just talking about. So Chow was a CIA asset who, in 1962, had finished a six-year tour as the South Psychological Warfare Service. Over the next 10 years, Chow's…”
▶ Operation Gladio - Vietnam Phoenix Program Part (4) @ 1:10:58
Mentions (20)
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But a vast majority of Phoenix personnel, soldiers, interrogators, and analysts were Vietnamese. Exploring South Vietnamese role in Phoenix offers alternative perspectives. Of all of the Vietnamese who participated in Phoenix, perhaps the m…
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And this is Tran Ngoc Chau is one of his original army officers that was assigned to the South and has now basically defected. Mr. Chau eventually attracted the attention of President Ngo Dinh Dem, who assigned him to work on the counterins…
▶ 57:35
In 1962, Dem appointed Mr. Chow as chief of a large province along the Mekong Delta. Mr. Chow spent much of the next three years experimenting with alternative counterinsurgency methods. Mr. Chow quickly saw the government face several over…
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in one of the districts in 1960. Moreover, Mr. Chow later recalled the government's intelligence system was almost a joke because it depended on informants who had served the state for years and who were often fed disinformation by the enem…
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To remedy the problems, Mr. Chow devised a census grievance program. This initiative dispatched teams of cadres to villages and hamlets under government control. After taking a census of the population, team members began conducting daily c…
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Mr. Chow's second innovation was the creation of what he called – and see, the New York Times isn't going to tell us these are CIA ideas. They're going to pose these as if they were the indigenous Vietnamese. They were not. These are CIA id…
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These teams consisted of small numbers of men trained to conduct clandestine missions in enemy-controlled territory. When Mr. Chow received intelligence on the identities and the whereabouts of quote-unquote enemy operatives, he dispatched …
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the network of communist cadre and agents who lived undercover among the rural population. And again, these can just be nationalists, not necessarily communists. Mr. Chow was well aware that his methods were susceptible to abuse. An unscrup…
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and the members of the counterterror team, if not properly trained or supervised, might feel and act as if they had a license to commit murder. To guard against this, Mr. Chau appointed inspectors to investigate reports. He also declared th…
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Although Mr. Chow spoke English with a heavy accent, he could present his ideas about counterinsurgency in a plain and common sense manner, which made him popular with the American advisors, one of which was Daniel Ellsberg. We'll come back…
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William Colby, the future CIA director, and Edward Lansdale, who posed as a military general many times, and other prominent figures in American quote-unquote counter-surgency circles. They're all CIA. These Americans liked Mr. Child's insi…
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Thanks partly to the support of his American friends, i.e. the CIA, Mr. Chow was assigned in the late 1965 to lead the new counterinsurgency trading program for the South Vietnamese cadre. His promotion was part of a CIA push to devise a na…
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to collect intelligence from the villagers. Mr. Chow's influence was also evident in what became the most controversial element of Phoenix, the elite counterterrorism teams known as Provincial Recon Units. Recruited and trained by the CIA, …
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Whatever unexpectedly, or somewhat unexpectedly, however, Mr. Chow did not participate in the actual design or fulfillment of Phoenix. As head of the South Vietnamese National Cadre Training Program, he soon became frustrated with the endle…
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If you read other accounts for this, he was driven out of the program because he was not as ruthless as they wanted him to be. In the wake of the 1968 Tet Offensive, Mr. Chow began to call for a negotiated settlement of the war. This earned…
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who had Mr. Chow arrested, tried and jailed on charges of treason because you're not allowed to talk peace. We found that out, right? That's why they arrested President Trump, because you're not allowed to talk peace. That's why they killed…
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He was released in 1978 and immigrated to the United States. In the decade since the end of the war, Mr. Chow and his American supporters basically called what happened to him a betrayal. And that's basically it. So that gives us kind of ou…
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introduced, gotten to John Paul Vann, the senior advisor to the 7th Division, this whole mission, and also Colonel Tran Ngoc Chau, C-H-A-U, who was a controversial province chief. Oh, yes. And that's the guy that went to, they brought him t…
▶ 1:10:58
And while he was there, his roommate was Nugent Van Thou, the guy that we were just talking about. So Chow was a CIA asset who, in 1962, had finished a six-year tour as the South Psychological Warfare Service. Over the next 10 years, Chow's…
▶ 1:11:28
came to symbolize the Phoenix program in its duplicitous nature. Scott Baumgartner and Vann are described by Novin Long in a book called The CIA and the Vietnam Debacle. And this is a quote from that book. Frank Scotton was the originator o…