1963 South Vietnamese coup event
also: coup against Dem, coup attempt, coup, coup d'etat, the coup, Diem coup, coup of Diem, Diem's fall, coup planning, coup of Dem, coup in Vietnam, the coup of overthrowing Diem
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John McCone covered_up
1963 South Vietnamese coup host_asserted
“A fresh briefing in September featured CIA big guns, not just Cord Meyer, but Richard Helms and Desmond Fitzgerald. In September and November, John McCone at the Intelligence Board defended the CIA's role in South Vietnam against publicly r…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Safe for Democracy Part 25 (26) @ 41:06
Edward Lansdale regretted
1963 South Vietnamese coup documented
“Two decades later, for his opinion, the U.S. support for the Diem coup, Ed Lansdale replied, quote, I think we should never have done it. We destroyed the Vietnamese constitution. I'm sorry, I did that out loud. Not we, of course, but the p…”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 29 (30) @ 1:08:30
CIA funded
1963 South Vietnamese coup documented
“For a time, the Vietnamese generals backed down. But two days before Richardson's hurried recall, they told Koenig of a new coup plan. That coup took place on November 1st, 1963. The CIA put up $40,000 to pay for it. You know, because they …”
▶ The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 29 (30) @ 1:07:29
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came to a head in November, which would have been the election, in 1960 when a group of disgruntled Des Viet paratroopers led a coup against Dem. Although it failed, the coup attempt grew attention to Dem's lack of popular support. A situat…
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Briefly, he found that the government had increasingly been ineffective in the countryside and was losing the guerrilla warfare. Civilian control over the armed forces was such that Diem, the South Vietnamese fake president that the CIA ins…
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In addition to being a liaison, the CIA wished to have its own source among South Vietnamese politicians and interest groups. By 1960, the agency was supplying the best information outside of the presidential palace, save perhaps a few of t…
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Nguyen must go. If Diem would not fire his brother, then the United States was going to have to look for alternatives. Nguyen's special forces had just carried out a series of bloody attacks on the Buddhist pagodas that was widely condemned…
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However, reported back through CIA channels that the ambassador had regarded the cable as an order to support a coup d'etat. Richardson opposed this. At Langley, William Colby backed him up. John McCone was on vacation but was quickly infor…
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a CIA officer by the name of Alfonso Spero, S-P-E-R-O, to tell the Vietnamese generals that the substance of Hillman's cable and to say the U.S. would not oppose a coup if they could conduct one. McCone went on to oppose the coup initiative…
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A fresh briefing in September featured CIA big guns, not just Cord Meyer, but Richard Helms and Desmond Fitzgerald. In September and November, John McCone at the Intelligence Board defended the CIA's role in South Vietnam against publicly r…
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The liaison role remained a major activity of the CIA station in Saigon. Later, that role grew. The CIA wanted its own sources among the South Vietnamese politicians. By 1960, the agency had the best information outside the presidential pal…
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One of the agency's political specialists played a key role in the demise of Diem, Lucien Koenig. His cover as a lieutenant colonel assigned to the Vietnamese Interior Ministry, but whose real function involved contact with the Vietnamese g…
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The greatest empire within the CIA station was Richardson's own. His problem lay not with the Saigon, but with the U.S. authorities. Convinced that Diem's time had run out, Washington tried desperately to get him to broaden his government. …
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drafted a cable backing a coup that was suggested by the Vietnamese generals, or so they say. No special forces had just made bloody, widely condemned attacks on a Buddhist pagoda. That became the last straw. A cable on August 26, 1963, ins…
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and CIA officer Alfonso G. Sparrow to tell the generals the U.S. was fine with the coup. Richardson reported the maneuver through CIA channels. McCone went on to oppose, supposedly, the coup initiative. Washington scuttled the Hillsman Cabl…
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But supposedly, according to all of the CIA that had orchestrated the coup and prepared everybody, it was JFK that gave the final okay. And then supposedly everybody else was against it, even though they set it up. If Diem could not fire hi…
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had undermined him. The ambassador insisted on transferring the station chief. He specifically wanted Ed Lansdell to replace Jocko. Yeah, like Ed Lansdell's any better, because he's not. Then, no, two sold out the CIA boss having a newspape…
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For a time, the Vietnamese generals backed down. But two days before Richardson's hurried recall, they told Koenig of a new coup plan. That coup took place on November 1st, 1963. The CIA put up $40,000 to pay for it. You know, because they …
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The CIA had a front row seat to the coup planning. And supposedly the embassy received just minutes of warning, although they had planned the entire thing. Assassination seemed endemic in November of 1963. Three weeks later, of course, Kenn…
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Two decades later, for his opinion, the U.S. support for the Diem coup, Ed Lansdale replied, quote, I think we should never have done it. We destroyed the Vietnamese constitution. I'm sorry, I did that out loud. Not we, of course, but the p…
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Indeed, the CIA's support flew in the face of Americans' commitment to democracy and left the U.S. embroiled in a war. Washington's search for military effectiveness revealed deeper problems. Those who argued that JFK would have withdrawn f…
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JFK made it well known that he was going to withdraw the military from there. The maneuver eliminated all possible flexible U.S. policy, which is probably why it was done when it was done is because they didn't want to withdraw. As for the …
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There's just, as far as timing goes, there are more sensitive times than others. So just be aware of that. Okay, to our lesson. We are in Southeast Asia. We were talking about the coup of Diem at the end yesterday. So that's where we're goi…
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Langley's Far East Chief William Colby went to Honolulu within weeks of Diem's fall to discuss this with U.S. military commanders. Colby now opposed missions of the sort that he had carried out in Project Tiger, but the CIA's view was overr…
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It's at the core of November 1963 and the disagreement about whether there was a coup called for by JFK or done by the CIA. And I think that what the historians, John Newman in JFK's second edition, and also an outstanding book that I think…
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You know, this is such an important topic about, you know, was JFK getting out of Vietnam or was he not, which is at the core of our narrative that affects every single high school, blah, blah, blah. But is Kaiser's book, American Tragedy a…
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Two other incidents from world history, namely when the seaport mutiny in India, as you remember, was like a key point at which like the private running of India by the East India Company was replaced by, you know, the British military form…
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you know, a transition in Iraq under Bremer from, to some extent, government to privatization with all of these military contractors. Now, in Vietnam, basically, it's JFK was, you know, to some extent, trying to deny that things were going …