The Colonel’s Corner Transnational Anticommunism&Cold War #13

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0:00 Good afternoon, everyone. I hope that everyone had a nice weekend. And we're going to jump right in. Please repost the space. But we're going to jump right into the subject today. And hopefully I'm going to kind of go a little quicker over the next couple of chapters because a lot of it is information that we have had before.

0:30 And I definitely want to get to our next book. I am chomping at the bit to do that. So this next chapter talks about the Pelerin, P-E-L-E-R-I-N Society, Mont Pelerin Society. And it focuses on a guy by the name of Hayek, H-

0:58 A-Y-E-K. So I'm not exactly sure. Again, it's a French name, if that's how you pronounce it. But that's how we're going to pronounce it today. And it goes back to March of 1947. So this is, you know, in close proximity to the end of World War II. And the original meeting.

1:28 was at the behest of Hayek. He was an Austrian economist. Now, I have to preface everything that we're going to talk about today with the fact that so many of the cast of characters came from Austria. That is where we found Otto Skorzeny, and that's where a lot of the original Nazis came from that's in our story.

1:58 Not that all Nazis come from Austria. That's not what I'm saying. Hayek was an economist. And the first meeting in March of 1947 had 39 participants from 10 different countries. And the reason why it's called Mount Mont Palloran is because that's where they initially met, kind of like Bilderberg.

2:28 That is in Switzerland, which, again, keeps coming up again and again. The idea to create an quote unquote informal network of both scholars and politicians had been kicked around and they were very much interested. And you're going to see a kind of like a dual track here with many of the. Excuse me.

3:01 networks that we've talked about in past chapters. So they all shared a belief in liberalism and they, excuse me, they wanted to make sure that their version of liberalism was what was adopted as all of these new countries were coming online, the ones that were made post-World War II.

3:37 Mount Pelerin Society was incorporated in America in Springfield, Illinois, with the stated aim of facilitating the exchange, quote, the exchange of views among minds inspired by certain ideals and broad conceptions held in common to contribute to the preservation and improvement of a free society.

4:07 Now, as you can tell from most of the material that we've covered, they're not interested in UNI's freedom. They are interested in a freedom for them to go around the world and do whatever it is that they want to do. Mount Pelerin Society's effort to create this goal and to restore faith in a market-based economy required a lot of...

4:38 planning by a central committee so it didn't really look anything like you and I would call quote-unquote freedom. The idea behind the Mount Pelerin Society was to create an elite network that could serve as a nexus of ideas and an incubator for new liberal policies among thinkers, politicians, journalists,

5:07 on both sides of the Atlantic. Again, you and I are nowhere in that scenario. The Mount Pelerin Society managed to successfully bring a number of neoliberal scholars out of intellectual isolation and make them vital to the new, quote unquote, conservative counter establishment. You would be able to trace the dominance of their views.

5:39 Back to the seeds sown in the late 1940s by Hayek and his fellow members of the Mount Polloran Society. Agreeing on proper terminology was one of their first tasks. And again, I can't say this enough. The focus on language by these people is so critically important. And that's the reason why I stress.

6:09 the ability to have agreed upon terms to have discussions because it is critically important to convey ideas and why those terms have to be specific. They maintained different conceptions about what different

6:39 what the terminology was to be used. They had some heated debates about how to formulate that terminology. They focused on the elimination of vague terms and the shortcomings of traditional liberal theory. This is a quote, reconstruct a liberal philosophy which can fully meet the objectives.

7:12 which in the eyes of most of our contemporaries have defeated the promise of earlier liberalism that had been offered, unquote. So Americans have tended to prefer libertarian or laissez-faire or even conservatism, and they wanted that to not be the road ahead.

7:41 Neither Hayek nor any other of the leading members described themselves as neoliberal. They wanted to have the description of themselves as classical liberal. Hayek managed, in the words of Jamie Peck, to establish a, quote, transatlantic space of communication across embryonic networks of localized liberalism, unquote.

8:11 Many people made the journey to Mount Pelerin were already well known within their fields and their respective home countries, while others would become known because of their association with this group. They had at the time become intellectually marginalized for many different reasons because they were not mainstream people.

8:43 Hayek's ambition to move beyond the marginalization is what primarily drove this group. Mount Pelerin could create a long-term strategy for intellectual dominance along the lines of what socialist organizations such as the British Fabian Society had done in the late 1880s.

9:13 So they are modeling their initiative off of the Fabian Society. Hayek would elaborate on why he and his associates wanted to emulate what had been done a generation before. In an essay that was entitled The Intellectuals and Socialism, he noted,

9:42 In every country that has moved towards socialism, the phase in development in which socialism becomes a determining influence on politics has been preceded for many years by a period during which socialist ideas governed the thinking of active intellectuals. So that's what they're trying to do with this organization. As Hayek saw it, Germany, England, and France had long since reached that stage.

10:12 while the U.S. had not. He also noted that once this phase had been reached, it was merely a question of time until the views held by intellectuals become the governing force of politics. So he is admittedly trying to have an overarching grip on politics and at the same time implement socialism.

10:45 At these meetings, the thinkers could meet influential journalists, educators, and politicians, the people who would help shape common values and perceptions. And I have said this for a very long time since starting this initiative. This is how propaganda was perpetuated and molded us to where we are today. It's people like Hayek.

11:17 The urgency of this task required a willingness to go beyond laissez-faire and create a liberal utopia. They had broad visions of comprehension of a social order with a planned system of promises. The next step to create an institutional framework that could promote broad visions of a liberal utopia required funding.

11:50 So they're going to go out and look for people to sponsor this complete propaganda machine. Hayek received most of his initial funding for Mount Pelerin Society from a group of Midwestern U.S. businessmen keen to gather intellectual firepower for a new conservative movement. Among them were the wealthy DuPont brothers.

12:20 owners of DuPont Chemical and Jasper Crane, who had retired after a long service as executive vice president of that company. These men were convinced that the creation of a new intellectual counter-establishment could help recreate faith in a market that basically they controlled. Hayek and his Austrian mentor, Ludwig von Mises,

12:53 would work towards that goal. Hayek had become a household name among American conservatives in 1945 with his book, The Road to Surfton. It was published in the United States. The book actually became a bestseller. There was a condensed version of it that was published in the Reader's Digest. And if you guys do any research on the Reader's Digest and who published it,

13:25 And again, that was when we were we grew up very poor, but we had Reader's Digest in our house all the time. My mom loved that. And now that I know what it was all about, it's crazy how I mean, it's it's so apparent how we were all brainwashed. Hayek's book was dedicated to socialists of all parties. His claim.

13:55 was that countries such as Great Britain and the U.S. were most likely to be taken down an unforeseen road to totalitarianism by well-meaning Democrats adopting planning in their attempt to promote the general welfare of a nation, rather than by dedicated communists or fascists. Thus, totalitarianism would be an unintended

14:21 consequence of the way in which economic planning would ultimately change the social and moral values of a nation. The road to serfdom was that no stable middle ground existed between unconditional faith in planning and unconditional faith in virtues of the free market, and that the latter, the free market, was the only choice which in the long run was compatible with democracy.

14:52 Hayek did not argue that planning equal totalitarianism, but rather that it created an alternative in the character of the people that would create the social and moral climate of a totalitarian state. The American response to Hayek's book is often mentioned as one of the first steps in the birth of modern conservative movement in that country, being the U.S. It was a crucial event.

15:22 In the political awakening, Hayek soon found himself on a national book tour. In New York City, some 3,000 people showed up to listen to him speak. When Hayek began promoting his plans for an international academy of political philosophy, it attracted donors. And again, this is a new world order that he's

15:51 recommending happen with the collusion of an international body. Americans had a lot to learn from European liberals who had supposedly seen the true face of centralized power. So they're using World War II as the backdrop to convince everybody that we need to have this global planning order. In his first address to the participants at

16:27 Mount Pelerin in 1947, quote, for the inhabitants of a free country, it seems almost impossible to understand the process first by which freedom is lost, unquote. In other words, the purpose of a transatlantic gathering was not just to promote American liberal values in the restoration of Europe, but also to use Europeans as examples to alert Americans.

16:59 to the dangers that they faced. On his book tour around America, Hayek had met Harold Lunau, H-U, excuse me, L-U-H-N-O-W, a businessman from Kansas City who was very responsive to this message. Lunau was in charge of his uncle's furniture distribution company called William Fulker and Company.

17:28 and when Volker died in 1947, he was also put in charge of the company's philanthropic trust, the Volker Fund. He decided to begin sponsoring Hayek, and among the first things that he did was go to the meeting at Mount Polaren Society. The Volker Fund and Jasper Crane would later combine forces and fund and provide funds to secure Hayek a chair,

17:58 at the University of Chicago, thus beginning his ensconcement into the very fabric of America. The conservative funds had secured Ludwig von Mises a position as visiting professor at New York University as well. Other Austrian economists who already held chairs in the United States.

18:29 included Professor Gottfried Van Javier at Harvard University and Fritz Machla at the University of Buffalo. And I find that one incredibly interesting because, again, Buffalo keeps coming up in so many of the stories that we've uncovered.

18:54 Buffalo was because it gave birth to William while Bill Donovan. Buffalo was steaming with these people that were very, very rich and not at all in support of a republic, but very much in support of this worldwide conglomerate that we are that we see around us today.

19:26 They would all join Mount Pelerin Society. The Volcker Fund may have been a philanthropic trust, but the objectives of business financiers such as Lonau and Crane were very clear. They wanted the organization and initiatives that they were sponsoring to have a real political impact. So again, we talk about these philanthropic trusts today and how they all are.

19:55 twisting, I mean, they basically destroyed our republic, but they twist everything towards politics so that they can have an influence. And this, again, we're in the middle of the 1940s that this is going on. Although wartime planning and the emergence of the Cold War had further alarmed the participants at Mount Palloran, which of course they created.

20:25 The very idea of creating a liberal thought collective actually predated the war. In 1938, French philosopher Louis Rogier, R-O-U-G-I-E-R, had gathered some 26 liberal intellectuals in Paris to mark the publication of a French translation of Walter Lippmann's The Good Society.

20:50 The Good Society, which went against the grain of the New Deal in America by reasserting the superiority of a free market economy, was largely praised by European countries. And you can see that their focus on using the word free market economy, when in fact they're modeling their initiatives off of the Fabian Society, which had literally nothing to do.

21:20 The meeting resulted in a common desire to create a transatlantic network in order to promote a renovated liberal order. So they wanted to maintain direct contact with all of the participants and join forces to create a journal that would allow them to share ideas and promote their philosophy.

21:50 One such organization was, it's a French name, but basically translates to a new order of liberalism with a committee that's international. That's kind of the name of it. And the acronym is CIERL. The war disrupted their ties to each other.

22:20 and delayed the implementation of their ideas. The meeting at Mount Pelerin continued where it had left off. The group that met at Mount Pelerin in 1947 included prominent intellectuals like Raymond Aron, A-R-O-N, Maurice Alice, A-L-L-A-I-S, and Karl Popper. Hayek had also invited

22:49 numerous journalists, things like from Barron's, Newsweek, Human Events, those types of organizations. And again, Newsweek for a very long time has been associated with the intelligence community. A majority of them were economists. Eight members of the Mount Pelerin Society would later win Nobel Prizes for economics. And again, the Nobel Prize.

23:22 is part of this entire, you know how they give awards to each other? The Nobel Peace Prize is exactly that same kind of thing. Obviously, Nobel, the family, is from Sweden, and they are as much a part of the reinforcement mechanism that kind of pats each other on the back, because it has never been about who's the best. It's about...

23:51 reinforcing the views that they want everybody to have. European and American schools of liberalism were present at the meeting, such as the Austrian school, which was originally centered on Vienna, but largely transplanted to the United States, and Hayek's colleagues from the London School of Economics, which of course we know is associated with the same people that run Oxford and Cambridge.

24:24 And again, is affiliated with the intelligence community. Several British people, several German people that had been originally exiled from the quote unquote establishment were all able to come in and kind of pat each other on the back and welcome this new international society. Among the members.

24:57 and the predominant schools were Chicago. The University of Chicago had emerged during the 1930s as a center in opposition to FDR's New Deal policies. They would later become known for an emphasis on monetary economics, quantitative theory of money. At Mount Palarin, it was strongly represented by Frank.

25:28 K-N-I-G-H-T, and people like Aaron Director and George Stigler, S-T-I-G-L-E-R. Among the people who joined Mount Pelerin Society after its incorporation in November of 1947 were Austrian sociologist Alfred Schutze and Luigi

26:01 I-E-I-N-A-U-D-I. He was the governor of the Bank of Italy and deputy prime minister. And I'm not sure how you say his last name, but he, the following year, would become the second president of the Italian Republic from 1948 to 1955. And that is the very guy that the CIA interfered in the election to put in office.

26:31 OK, that's the 1948, the famous, infamous 1948 election that was between the guy that wanted in NATO and the guy that didn't want in NATO. And the CIA spent at least five million dollars in 1948 dollars, five million dollars to interfere in the Italian election to make sure that guy got elected. West Germany. And that's the again, I'll have to say this, the foot stomper.

27:02 Because we know all of this history now, if you read this book, you would not understand the importance of this author because they don't mention it. With that guy in the Mount Palarin Society, if you didn't know that the CIA had spent $5 million to make sure that guy got in office, it doesn't have the same impact reading it. West Germany's economic minister, Ludwig Earnhardt,

27:36 joined the Mount Palarin Society in 1950. He had previously served as the director of the Economic Council for the Joint Anglo-U.S. Occupation Zone. And again, this guy's critical because this guy was part of the Marshall plan and funding of what was going on inside of Europe at the time, Western Europe. In 1963,

28:05 he would go on to become the German chancellor, which means he was in charge of the Galen organization to become the German BND. Other people, prominent politicians, was U.S. Secretary George Shultz, Republican House Majority Dick Armey, A-R-M-E-Y, Chile's Finance Minister Carlos Calcares.

28:35 Britain's Foreign Secretary Jeffrey Howe, Britain's MP Enoch Powell, and Czech President Vaclay Klaus. They described themselves all as liberals, but to the outside, they constantly was promoting what they referred to as conservative ideals. They focused on things like

29:11 rule of law, private property, while at the same time promoting things that went against the grain on those topics. They also focused on the proper role of the state, the uses of monetary policy, and the role of agricultural subsidies. They also highly promoted the concept of Christianity.

29:44 as it related to them using it in order to further their goals, because they're contrasting themselves with a quote-unquote godless communism. Frank Knight, who saw no role for religion in liberalism, kind of butted heads as an internal disagreement. They acknowledged a strong influence of the Catholic Church.

30:16 Justice Hayek himself and a number of other participants shared the idea that the cultural traditions of Christianity could make up for the creative destruction of capitalism. So they wanted to use the face of Christianity while at the same time, not necessarily Christianity that you and I would have talked about. Most of them focused.

30:49 their writings on the proper role of the state and most agreed with Hayek that some form of government intervention was necessary in the markets while at the same time espousing quote-unquote free market concept, which is diabolically in opposition to each other.

31:16 An article about Mount Polaren Society in the Swiss Review of World Affairs referred to it as a nucleus of neoliberal school of thought, a new movement in favor of liberalism, but wiser by the rich experiences of the participants. Also, they acknowledged that societies were willing to accept

31:47 that liberalism was not a natural order and that markets did not work by themselves. So again, they're advocating government control of markets while at the same time, to us, they're positioning themselves as quote-unquote free marketeers. Also, a new liberalism had to be able to actively create

32:20 Social change. Does that ring a bell? Although the Cold War and the threat from the Soviet Union would occasionally be addressed directly at Mount Pelerin Society, it was to some extent seen as such an obvious problem that it was not worth mentioning. In a sense, the Mount Pelerin Society was more concerned about domestic containment, which goes along.

32:51 with domestic terrorism that the counterparts in the paramilitary apparatus was focusing on. Okay, the second Mount Palarin meeting happened in Switzerland in 1949 and had papers on quote-unquote Soviet science and Soviet genetic controversy. But it was not until the seventh meeting in Berlin in 1956 that the challenge from communism

33:23 became a major theme. Hayek's colleague at the London School of Economics wrote him that the most important mission for a new international academy of political philosophy would be to strengthen democracy throughout post-war Europe. In the current political situation, in his view, it required a reconciliation

33:54 of liberals to socialists. Quote, it is a fact, although it may be deplorable, that at present moment, the only Democrats of any influence in Central Europe are the Social Democrats and the Christian Democrats. To find some platform for cooperation with these two forces is more important than ever.

34:28 Ludwig von Mises, who at one point wanted Wilhelm Röpke excluded from the society because he said that he was an outright interventionist, i.e. controlled markets. Mises was a minority voice at the first meeting, but his views were largely shared by many of the American.

35:01 sponsors, meaning the oligarchs. They very much wanted that hidden hand, and they wanted this organization to be the hidden hand. Hayek envisioned a sort of international academy of political philosophy, but the business sponsors were not interested in an academy. What they wanted was an organization that could help spread the gospel on both sides of the Atlantic.

35:35 Leonard Reed, R-E-A-D, president of the Foundation for Economic Education, co-sponsored the first meeting of the Mount Pelerin Society. He found that many of the attendees were socialists who labeled themselves as liberals, which is clearly what the writings indicate as well. He was not sure that the Mount Pelerin Society would become the proper vehicle.

36:09 for what they wanted. Even with the initial group handpicked by Hayek, the group ranged all the way from state interventionist to one who was an out-and-out socialist. So, there you have it. After the initial meeting at Mount Pellerin, a worried Jasper Crane wrote to Hayek that he had been told that not all of the participants

36:44 were completely forthright in their belief and support of what Crane wanted to have happen. He found it very disturbing and wanted Hayek's assurance that the fight for quote-unquote liberty will only be won under leadership of a single eye and whole-souled devotion to their cause.

37:11 Hayek eloquently turned Crane's argument on its head by admitting that there were a certain lack of homogeneity in the American group. And this is a quote from what he said. They not only differed a good deal among themselves, but almost every member of the American group did regard some of the others as not true liberals.

37:37 there's a tendency to create an unreasoning orthodoxy which treats traditional liberal principles as a faith rather than a problem on which reasonable people can differ, unquote. Hayek's plea for tolerance did not deter Crane, who still found the future recruit should be scrutinized with great care because he didn't want to spend money on something that was not going to be adventation.

38:07 advantageous to his further growth of his company. It would not be the last time that Crane attempted to put pressure on Hayek regarding the need for orthodoxy and a stronger business influence. He found it vitally important that European members would mix with American businessmen in the hopes that they would lose some of their distrust of what they were all about.

38:38 At the first meeting in the United States in 1958, which Crane co-sponsored, he was concerned that Wilhelm Roebke and other German liberals might attack the business community in America and undo much of the good that had been accomplished by the Americans meeting separately.

39:09 Roebke had a bee in his bonnet on the preservation of traditions and a curious horror of commercialism. So, you can see the internal conflict and the way in which this group was being steered. Mount Pelerin Society was meant to lead a new classical, liberal-slash-conservative counter-establishment.

39:36 Hayek himself wanted the meetings of the Society to be private and off the record, much like the Bilderbergs. He invited influential journalists. He did not want them to do any reporting unless the members decided otherwise. His main concern focused on long-term shifts in the intellectual climate. He talked about waging a 20-year battle of ideas using Mount Palloran Society.

40:09 The official memorandum of association for the Mount Pelerin Society mentions the organizing of conferences and the circulation and possible translation and publication of papers. It was mentioned that the appointment of correspondents in various countries as a task of the society meant that they would have more direct channels of influence. Some members wanted direct publication.

40:46 of political ideas that were generated by these meetings. One of the people from Monaco argued that a gathering of minds such as Mount Pelerin Society could have an immediate propaganda value. The discussion on how to have a political impact continued in the following years.

41:16 In June of 1949, Karl Brandt, B-R-A-N-D-T, wrote to Hayek to urge more momentum and speed, using the phrase, Rome is burning right now. So, in West Germany, Ludwig Earnhardt was acting on the ideas of the Mount Pelerin Society members, such as Walter E-U-C-K-E-N and Alfred

41:51 Muller Armack, as well as Wilhelm Röpke, in creating a social market economy, not a free market economy. These transatlantic tensions helped Hayek move towards a more aggressive agenda. In his view, they needed a revived Germany, which would be key.

42:24 to European stability, not just in economic terms, but a way of regaining those values on which European civilization was built. They wanted a restoration of the economy in West Germany and believed it to be key to the economic rehabilitation of all of Western Europe. Organizations like the Mount Pelerin Society would play a special role.

42:54 in this process. Here's a quote. That means that the ideological climate of socialist Europe must be changed by a subtly organized and well-concerted propaganda campaign which the U.S. could safely leave to European advocates without showing their hand too openly.

43:22 Ropke was talking about the empowerment of European liberals, both in a general sense and a very specific way. He was calling on American authorities in Europe to trust him and his colleagues for the restoration process. Since a higher degree of American control of the money spent would, quote, create a new gigantic machinery of planned economy.

43:45 which would reveal its worst features and deprive the Americans of a possibility of teaching the Europeans sound economic policy, Rottke called for an energetic and intelligent counteroffensive of the advocates of the free market economy, a task that several millions out of the billions in the economic recovery program ought to be earmarked for this purpose.

44:18 Rob Key's primary focus was on the future of Europe, and unlike most of the members on the American side, he seemed less concerned about the threat of collectivism and central planning within the United States. One may argue that for their part, the U.S. financiers of the Mount Pelerin Society were preoccupied with the American situation and mostly interested in European developments to the extent that they would be

44:45 basically used as a market, which is exactly what the U.S. oligarchs wanted. They wanted the European market and why they used our taxpayer dollars to fund the restoration through the Marshall Plan and various other mechanisms.

45:07 In order to grow the oligarchs' bank accounts in America, they needed foreign markets because they did not want to have an economic downturn. After the World War II, they needed more markets, and they were using organizations like this in order to advocate for that. Mount Pelerin Society's Swiss Secretary, Albert Hunold,

45:38 H-U-N-O-L-D, was eager to gain influence beyond the practical matters of this new organization. He also said, we have to be careful with these Americans because they want to do it all themselves and are not inclined to follow, for instance, the proposal of Ropke that the ideological campaign for the Marshall Plan could safely be left to European advocates.

46:06 The American sponsors, for their part, remained suspicious about a number of European members, not the least of which were the German liberals, who attempted to reconcile liberal capitalism with the longstanding German traditions of basically socialist socialism. There was a destructive potential of the market.

46:34 and the need for government to promote social cohesion. That's what they believed in. So, again, a struggle for the pocketbook. Mount Pelerin Society meeting in Kassel, K-A-S-S-E-L, in 1960, the editor-in-chief of the broadcasting company Deutsch Well, W-E-L-L-E, Dr. Hans Otto Wissmann,

47:06 looked back on the dramatic first years of the German economy and concluded that the complete economic disintegration between 45 and 48 had been a blessing. Quote, had there not been the economic breakdown and all of the miseries of the Weissmark time, but rather a halfway smooth transition into the post-war economy, there would probably have not been the clear majority with which the people,

47:36 pronounce themselves in favor of a new way of doing business. So in other words, don't ever let a crisis go to waste. In June of 1948, Ludwig Earnhardt had, without the consent of the Allied authorities, simultaneously lifted wage and price controls, and in doing so, changed the economy overnight. Within two years, the industrial output of Germany had tripled.

48:06 The year before Earnhardt's move, something along the lines had been discussed among members of the Mount Pelerin Society. Members of the society most likely influenced Earnhardt in other ways as well. Close ties between the Mount Pelerin Society and Earnhardt's team of reformers were established.

48:32 early on. Earnhardt joined the society in 1950, and by 51, almost all of his associates had become members. So again, you're talking about a large amount of people that is falling under the influence of this organization in the late 40s and early 50s. By 1951, the Mount Pelerin Society had grown from its original 39 participants to 167.

49:03 The channels of influence within the classical liberal counter-establishment was huge. They had established more think tanks. They had recruited more academics and more business people, as well as more politicians into their fold. Many members were now founding members working at or affiliated with think tanks that met

49:34 the original goals of the Mount Pelerin Society. Let's see. Some of these think tanks that were associated with the Pelerin Societies would include the Hoover Institution, the Heritage Foundation, the Center for Study of Market Processes, now the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, the Institute of Economics in Paris, France, the Fraser Institute of Canada,

50:08 and the Center for Independent Studies in Australia. Not only had the functions of the society changed by the late 1950s, but so had its scholarly focus. Okay. Was the society as influential as it intended to be from a political sense, or was it merely a social club to which many influential people belonged? Clearly,

50:43 It had a huge impact on Western Europe, specifically on Germany. By 19, excuse me, by 2005, this is a footnote. By 2005, the Mount Pelerin Society had close personal ties to more than 100 neoliberal think tanks across the globe. There is a listing of those.

51:14 In a document called. Neoliberal hegemony. A global critique. That was produced in London. In 2006. So. The Mount Palloran society. Is one of those things. That has been in the background. For a very long time. And most people have never even heard of it. And that's the reason why. I thought. This book is so critical. To us understanding. The full.

51:45 breadth of what we're dealing with. The next essay, which I'm just going to briefly go through, talks about the neoliberal anti-communist on all fronts. Research on the history of neoliberal thought rarely addresses the issue of anti-communism. The role of the Mount Pelerin Society, the denunciation of Keynesianism,

52:17 And the welfare state and the proliferation of think tanks had a major impact on people like Reagan and Thatcher. Yet neoliberalism emerges out of this history as a global vision. The investigation of its anti-communist dimension is generally never discussed. Wilhelm Roepke, one of the pioneers of neoliberal thought, although less well known than Hayek, Roepke exiled.

52:48 after 1933, was equally prominent in its early years. But there is a direct linkage between neoliberalism and anti-communism. The anti-communism of Wilhelm Roebke was initially fed by the premise of neoliberal doctrine. The liberal and conservative elite everywhere was wracked by the same fear of the quote-unquote Reds. Roebke's anti-communism can be understood on three levels.

53:19 First, an outcome of his economic thinking. Second, a product of the liberal and conservative intellectuals from the early 1920s and 30s. And third, as a wish to contribute combative propaganda. And he found all of them in the Mount Pelerin Society, which is why he joined. The first, let's see, the sources of...

53:46 there was two ways of approaching neoliberalism and its relationship to communism. The first deals with its content in strictly economic terms. From 1925, the young Ropke, already a university professor, draws the conclusion about the impossibilities of a rational socialist economic policy. To denounce the frightful experiences of the Russian economic system, he invoked

54:16 Hungarian economist, Michael Polan, in his USSR Economics, which was an article. All of these intellectuals joined the Mount Polaran society after the war. Röpke felt supported and justified in his point of view. Röpke also wanted to comprehend socialism on a wider socioeconomic phenomenon. He described it

54:45 as the principal geopolitical and ideological fact which has pushed humanity in a new and worrying error. With the Russian Revolution of 1917, a new system of society and government came into the world and spread under different colors, different costumes, and a diverse national form.

55:10 He believed that in order to comprehend the intrinsic political essence of the totalitarian communist regime, he judged it to be animated by the principle of absolute politicalization. He compared Soviet communism to Islam with its Arabia and Mecca, and which functioned as a religious or fervent atheism, a faith that mocks sacredness and tradition.

55:44 He also thought that it represented Satanism. And this comes from somebody that's basing their thought process on the Fabian Society, which embraced eugenics and everything else. In general, the neoliberals projected a pessimistic diagnosis of the state of the world in which they had to intervene or it was all going to hell in a handbasket. So again, they're using communism as a basis to pull

56:15 Everybody out of what we would consider freedom, individualism, in order to protect us from that dreadful communism. Ropke's anti-communism followed in part from what it was used to justify their neoliberalism view.

56:41 The young Professor Roebke was one of the many liberals and conservative intellectuals that were concerned about the quote-unquote masses during the 1920s. In Switzerland, he wrote about fascism and communism, notably using immigrants in which he interviewed. He was kept up to date on writings.

57:15 about modern dictatorships and used them as justification for his liberal and conservative alternatives. During the Second World War, Roebke linked up with German Catholic conservative Albert Kramer after reading his writings called The Red Empire.

57:44 The contacts established in his new adopted country were therefore very strong influences on his views. In the 30s, Röpke's anti-communism was in its final analysis a reflection of the age preoccupied by the creation of a fear of communism. The Swiss literary saw him as an intellectual prophet, reconstructing liberalism as a

58:15 barrier to communism. And it goes on to talk about that Röpke cannot be suspected of indulgence towards Nazism, which he always condemned, yet he did declare himself ever more preoccupied with Russia. By the end of 1943, Nazism amounted to nothing more than a military problem, according to Röpke.

58:48 In December 1944, he worried about not having been able to convince an American diplomat that appeasement towards Stalin would be just as much in vain as it had been towards Hitler. In September 1945, he felt that the post-war realignments would effectively relegate the old quarrels to a secondary level, and he began producing a lot of publications.

59:17 That demonized the Soviet Union, who again in 1945 had just been our partner in defeating Nazism. This Cold War worldview was fed by a number of sources, not the least of which was Swiss liberal conservative values. The preoccupation with communism would mold his thinking.

59:49 It forged a vision of the world based on a very virulent form of anti-communism, a vision also seen as particularly radical by other liberals. Ruppke never ceased to castigate the so-called progressives who he felt was everywhere. He complained about Smith College in Massachusetts, quote,

1:00:22 contaminated by crypto-communist or even other communist ideas, unquote. The progressives also included prominent Christians who were unaware to the point of converting to communism in the name of the gospel. So everybody was an enemy. He also was quoted as saying this idiot talking about a Christian.

1:00:54 represented the typical soft-in-the-head intellectual with his relativism values. Ropke equally denounced those fearful of the atom who failed to understand that the West could only dissuade the Soviet Union through the use of a nuclear arsenal. Crazy. His position on world politics was focused primarily

1:01:27 through his virulent anti-communism. He also said that if you didn't have nuclear arsenals, small nations such as Austria and Finland would somehow succumb to the communist allure. Röpke contributed to the spiritual national defense, which was a political cultural movement that originated in Switzerland in the 1930s.

1:02:01 and was revived during the early years of the Cold War. Launched in 1959, a magazine called Discussion, a monthly periodical that was in the spirit of a spiritual national defense, all aimed to further the anti-communist agenda. He also contributed to a brochure.

1:02:32 hostile to the idea of coexistence with anything to do with the Soviet Union or communism in general. If only communism were fought as energetically everywhere as it was in Switzerland, was also in the article. The Research Association for National Political Work was an anti-communist organization founded in 1959 by two deputies of the Christian

1:03:06 democracy organization. Two members proposed that Kropke join their board of directors. Again, all of it was, here's even a quote, it was their job to, quote, fight against the red defamers and the anti-anti-communist. So, Kropke's anti-communist reputation is therefore

1:03:38 very well known. And from May 1947 onward, the economists saw the world embroiled in a third world war with Russia using totalitarian methods of propaganda, slander, and infiltration to secure their expanded zone of influence. In the period after the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu in May of 1954, he drew parallels with Munich and

1:04:06 in September of 1938. You know, like the communists are coming over the mountain. In November 1956, he fully supported the Anglo-French invasion of Egypt. Astounded by the international outcry that the Suez operation caused, Roebke despaired by fearing war more than communism. The free world would end up at a loss. Better to risk a wider conflict, he wrote.

1:04:36 to the Mount Palarin Society. Even at the heart of an organization little suspected of sympathy towards communism, Roebke personified a hard line. In shock of the events in the Suez and Budapest, a German sociologist wrote, quote, it is hard to imagine how that might now evolve without all ending up in World War III.

1:05:07 So these are the guys that are writing for Mount Palarin Society. They are hyped up on everything anti-communist and the world's going to end kind of mantra, but they're economists. The majority of the people that were in Mount Palarin Society as members were economists, but they're not focused on the economy.

1:05:37 They're focused on propaganda that is very supportive of the oligarchs that are funding them. And that's critical. Because if you begin looking at most of the think tanks, the think tanks are not think tanks. They are propagandists of the people that fund them. And I think this...

1:06:08 more than anything, illustrates that. In closing with this chapter, I just want to say this. Rob Key had very close ties to William F. Buckley and Russell Kirk. They shared a deep agreement on international issues. The National Review was the epitome of uncompromising anti-communism.

1:06:34 James Burnham, a well-known author of the managerial revolution, had his own column entitled The Third World War. And keep in mind that the Fabian Society, which gave birth to all of this, said very clearly there will be three world wars. And these people are writing about it. Let's see.

1:07:07 In a short essay of quote unquote fiction history, it was written by Ropke. We are in August 1939 and the Soviet Union is about to trigger a war, having annexed the first of the Balkan countries and then Persia and then Persia. So he, where there is no fire, he's writing fiction, creating it.

1:07:36 Convinced that Westerners will not want to, quote unquote, die for Constantinople, Stalin invades Turkey in his scenario and then says that if we don't fight against this fictional representation of communism, that we're going to be consumed by it. Again, he's an economist.

1:08:14 One last quote. The German-American economist Karl Brandt added that it is not the colonial question, but the communist threat that weighed down on colonialized people. Robke shared the unease that the inevitable process of emancipation was taking place at the very moment when the free world, in quotations, could not afford it.

1:08:41 the West would struggle to counter communist advances in the third world. So let me rephrase that. He does not want freedom for third world countries because he believes if left on their own, they're going to choose communism as opposed to, quote unquote, democracy from the people who have enslaved them for the last several hundred years.

1:09:12 So therefore, he writes to justify continuing colonialism just to keep them out of the hands of communism. That's Rocky. That's the people that we are dealing with. So he goes on to talk about how you can't possibly free Africa because if you do, they're going to fall into the arms of communism. Again, this quote unquote think tank.

1:09:42 is advocating for the oligarchs to keep their colonial slavery because if they're freed, they may go with someone else other than from the kept them enslaved. You just can't make this shit up. That's it for today. The last section of this, and we're almost done and we probably will be able to cover it all tomorrow, talks about the use of Christian networks in this anti-communist.

1:10:15 And it's a very interesting couple of chapters, but they're short chapters. I think we can probably get through them all tomorrow. So with that, we're going to open it up. Just the evil people doing the evil deeds and they give themselves awards, you know, creating. Yeah, it's quite something, actually. They just I just cannot get over it.

1:10:48 I see Ron in his new avatar. Yeah, fancy. Hey, Ron. Go ahead, Ron. Hey, all right. So you guys are touching on something today that's like very near and dear to my heart. We're talking about the Austrian school and Keynesian. And I grew up listening to my dad read to me from Road to Serfdom by Hayek and all this stuff. So, I mean, you know, I'm...

1:11:20 I'm skeptical of some of the conclusions that this – I forget the name of the guy that wrote the transnational book or the group of guys. But, I mean, the Austrian school is Milton Friedman, Thomas Sowell, Ron Paul.

1:11:40 Ludwig von Mises, Lou Rockwell, Murray Rothbard, Thomas Woods, Thomas de Lorenzo. These are guys that are like heroes of mine, libertarian minds. And so it's, you know, I'm wondering, is it possible that they're labeled as working for the opposition, but they genuinely believe the things that they're believing, but they're

1:12:09 You know, maybe they're unwitting participants. I want your thoughts on that. So I don't think anybody that was part of the Mount Palloran society were unwitting. I do believe that there is an interesting mix of people that are in this Mount Palloran society. But I think the bigger picture to me.

1:12:39 takeaway from this. And the guy that wrote this particular essay is Niles, N-I-E-L-S. And then he has a hyphenated last name. It's B-J-E-R-R-E-Holson, P-O-U-L-S-E-N. I do believe that the takeaway for me is that the funding source

1:13:08 of these organizations that people choose to electively join drives a lot of what the product from the societies or institutes or think tanks or whatever produce. Now, clearly, this was funded by U.S. oligarchs. And I clearly showed, based on...

1:13:36 The quote in here, which is very well sourced, there's lots and lots of footnotes. As a matter of fact, that particular section had 52 footnotes. I've got the book. I'm looking at it as you're going. I'm reading along with you. I'm right there with you. I don't disagree that maybe Hayek could have been involved with that.

1:14:03 You know, I mean, some of the disciples that were descended from him, like I said, you know, guys like Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell. And I mean, even on the legal level. So let me just let me say this. The rhetoric as far as believing in free.

1:14:29 Institute, free trade, free enterprise, and that thing. You can be attracted to someone based on the overt nature of what they're saying and be associated with them in a dotted line to that. Because what they were saying out loud, in many cases, was very different than the tenets of those that joined Mount Pelerin society.

1:14:59 the actual collection and the affiliation with their funders wanted an avenue to drive political change. And so I'm illustrating that the funding source of things that we believe are not tethered to anything. So if you were living back then and...

1:15:28 You saw Mount Pelerin Society and you looked at what they were espousing, which was very much free enterprise. But if you took a peek behind the curtain, the drive of the funders of it was very much something different. They wanted more of a socialistic type.

1:15:58 of political environment. And so again, Hayek himself created this organization and the use of the organization behind the scenes was very different from what he espoused publicly. That's kind of the takeaway. And to me, the importance of that in the application today.

1:16:27 is that especially on the conservative side with people that we've associated before we woke up with William Buckley and the people that wrote at National Review and all of these other things, they portrayed themselves as conservative when in fact, thanks to Donald Trump, they've now been exposed as not being conservative.

1:16:55 in the way that you and I are conservative. Does that make sense? No, I agree. No, that makes perfect sense. And I guess because I remember looking very favorably about William F. Buckley until I found out he was a graduate or he was a member of Skull and Bones. And then I'm like, oh, no way. Right. So you have Paul Williams, who wrote the book Operation Graduate.

1:17:22 He was very, very good friends, very good friends with William Buckley. Now, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with Paul Williams, but he was directly affiliated, hung around with, socialized, considered William Buckley a friend. And so you have to be able to delineate.

1:17:43 people that may be protégés of these people, because eventually, like William Sowell, goes out on his own and unequivocally moves away from anything that's liberal. And he is the first one to tell you that he was very much a liberal early on in his career. And so him affiliating with Hayek makes perfect sense. But the older he got, the more real conservative he got.

1:18:12 And so a lot of these people will tether themselves to some of the people that are espousing, especially economically, economist-wise, people that they feel early on represents them. But the older they get and the more intellectually independent they get, they may move away from them.

1:18:39 Okay, I see where you're going with that, and I'm on board. That makes a lot more sense. When you start talking about Hayek and some of these other people that, I mean, again, these are heroes of mine that I believe were true conservatives. So it just kind of gets right into the same.

1:19:00 uh arena as john birch society for me so um you know i'm just peeing in your rice bowl a whole bunch uh yes you are and i don't like it but that doesn't mean that i don't that doesn't mean that i'm not open-minded so so i just think i but i i honestly think this is such an important conversation to have especially where we find ourselves today because most of us in some uh vein

1:19:29 have either donated or read literature of some of these large monolithic institutions that are called think tanks, thinking they represented what we believe to be true.

1:19:51 What is that one publication? Is it the American Thinker? Now that I know all about Operation Gladio, my friend, a fellow retired Air Force colonel, sends me articles because he reads that. And he's like, OK, tell me what's wrong with this article. And they very much carry a standard line of thinking that does not actually represent real history at all.

1:20:19 And it is very disturbing to me that... American thinker? Yeah. Wow. God, you're just like kicking me in the nuts every five minutes. Well, if you know...

1:20:34 History as it relates to Operation Gladio, like the fact that the CIA overthrew Congo, overthrew Chile, overthrew and what we did in Taiwan and all and the fact that we have attacked China repeatedly through Tibet, the Uyghurs and all that other stuff. Some people will write historical articles that try to use a.

1:21:02 historical non-truth like Taiwan was a democracy in the 1950s. And you just, again, you have to, yeah, that's not true. They were under martial law for 40 years. So any discussion of Taiwan's history that does not admit Chiang Kai-shek immediately declared upon arrival in Formosa.

1:21:28 martial law and lived under martial law and murdered tens of thousands of Formosans is to me bullshit. And the latest article that he had sent me, I don't even know what the publication date of it was because I'd had a long conversation with him about the true history of Taiwan. And he's like, okay, so what part of this is not correct? And I mean, I wrote a paragraph, a long paragraph, probably should have been multiple paragraphs.

1:21:57 response back to him of the things in the article that were technically not correct historically. And so, again, you just have to be careful about what you're reading because people are still writing historical information that is historically inaccurate. Well, I guess, you know, everything you're saying leads me back to the

1:22:29 William alleged William Casey quote when he said in Reagan's first cabinet meeting that we'll know our disinformation campaign is complete when everything the American people believe is bullshit. So speaking of William Casey, I read a book this past weekend that was all about William Casey, and he was one of the most prolific liars I have ever come across.

1:23:00 I knew, in theory, certain facts about him, like the fact that a lot of people did not believe William Casey was a part of the CIA until he became the CIA director. One of the things that most people believe about him is that he was strictly only ever like a businessman and then became Reagan's campaign manager.

1:23:29 basically got appointed the CIA director. That is emphatically not true. If you go back over his history, much of his history in the non-CIA part of his history was very closely linked to the CIA. And he operated, because of course he was OSS, he operated as one of those figures that was tethered to the CIA his entire life.

1:23:59 on the outside but inside. And you can tell that by some of the different things that he did. Namely, there's no way he pulled off, as the campaign manager, the quote-unquote October surprise, which was the... Fossages in Iran. Yes. He could not have pulled that off without strong ties to the CIA.

1:24:29 And that underworld network, because one of the facets that happened, the Iran-Contra was the second time that we provided arms to Iran. The first time was in exchange for them holding the hostages longer. And the book very well documents that. And not the whole disinformation, potential misinformation of flying,

1:24:59 Bush over there on some supersonic aircraft. There are a handful of people that have said on the record, and it's part of the congressional investigation that Lee Hamilton ran and covered the entire thing up as a Democrat, I might add, which goes to the whole uniparty approach.

1:25:22 that William Casey orchestrated those meetings in Paris and I forget where the other one was, someplace else over in Europe. There was at least three meetings and the weapons people that it was a brother group, two brothers from Iran originally, that orchestrated the sale of those weapons the first time to Iran.

1:25:50 As a result of, there were spare tires. And again, Israel was used as the link to provide those weapons to Iran in exchange for holding the hostages until the day Reagan was sworn in. The only requirement was to hold them until after the election. They ended up holding them because, again, they wanted the humiliation of Carter to go through that entire period. And one of the reasons...

1:26:19 is that because Casey was affiliated with the CIA unofficially, was the Halloween massacre, that the destruction of the covert capability on the books, because they didn't destroy it off the books, of the CIA was squarely on Carter, and they wanted to pay him back for doing that.

1:26:48 I'm postulating here, but is it possible that they deliberately sabotaged, what was it, Eagle Claw? In the book, there were people who said that that happened, that there were mechanical issues on the two aircraft that we lost initially.

1:27:17 That was designed to fail because they had to have a minimum of six. There was eight launched and the two coming back. And then the third one obviously had problems, which then aborted the rescue. So, yes, in the book, they talk about that. Of course, now it's absolutely impossible to prove. But there was a guy that was interviewed in Iran.

1:27:45 And there was a guy that the author went to Israel and talked to that said that happened. That makes sense. What was the name of that book? I don't know. I'll have to go get it. Text it to me later if you get a chance. Thank you for that. That's just wow. You kind of really like blown me away today. Thank you. And thanks for noticing my new.

1:28:16 My new profile pic. It's the same one I had. I just had it. Yeah. I had like AI. I see you playing with that AI shit. All right, Miles, go ahead. Um, Colonel, I kind of feel the frustrations that Ron's going through with learning, uh, relearning history. Um, I'm so glad that we have our Gladio glasses on, but at the same time, I can't even listen to normal like debate last night.

1:28:46 where True Teller and this other guy, I'm not familiar with him, Haz Alamin, he was, I think he's a Lebanese guy, but they were discussing pretty much what you're going to be talking about tomorrow, but they had a lot of different bullet points about the Bolsheviks, and this Haz guy was promoting communism like it was such a great thing. But they never...

1:29:16 know anything about gladio or the international syndicate so they they got everything wrong and unfortunately you know i i did listen and listen to it but you know you can't interject and go wait a minute guys you're not talking about everything just a couple things but they were saying um how like um christianity was

1:29:41 the source of, or maybe it was Catholicism or Christianity. That was the source of communism. And of course, you know, two tellers saying, no, it was the Jews. So, I mean, it was just this back and forth on these different religions, but they're not getting the whole picture of what was really going on internationally with the syndicate. So I'm just glad in a way that I know this stuff now.

1:30:10 But it's also frustrating that they don't know it. Well, why do you feel that you can't interject with the truth? That's the whole purpose of us. Well, it was a debate between people. You know, there wasn't a Q&A. Okay. There was no Q&A. Okay. Well, we need to set up a debate with me then.

1:30:34 Colonel, I just wanted to say thank you for everything today, and I wish I could stick around, but I'm supposed to do a show here three minutes ago, so I've got to get. But, God, I wish I could stick around for this one. No problem. Have fun. You guys have a fantastic day. Thanks again. Sure. All along, go ahead. All right, Colonel, I have like five different things that once cohered, but they've since just cohered. One thing I just wanted to point out is,

1:31:04 You know, I think we need to remember, like both, you know, after World War I and World War II, the kind of right and center right that many probably American planners would prefer to have worked with were discredited as far as their popular base in Europe because they had participated with, you know, what amounted to, you know, just disaster, you know, losing war effort.

1:31:34 And so to some extent, I think what we're seeing here with this kind of like multiple mask wearing, basically what we're talking about is collaborators with what would become NATO, right? They're going to have to work with, you know, like you're not going to try to build a bridge with pylons on quicksand.

1:32:01 And the center-right and the rightists have been discredited. So they're going to work with these, you know, what the CIA called the non-communist left. And there's a real similarity there with what they were working with in Europe, with, you know, how the CIA used the so-called non-communist left in the United States, you know, which today is best typified by, you know, a good friend, AOCIA.

1:32:30 who's working with the party of Dick Cheney, basically, because Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris. Nobody remembers who Dick Cheney is anymore, because our means of erasing history have gotten so much better every second. And it's just like, to some extent, it's like the U.S. is working with what was there to work with in the post-World War II context.

1:33:00 And to the extent that it was the word socialist, in my opinion, you know, it has to be used very tentatively because, you know, essentially the aspect of state intervention, you know, in these economies that these elites wanted, right, were really based on, you know, tailoring their economic production to fit with, you know, Western European economic unification, right?

1:33:29 which was led by CIO and led by the elite economic cartels, as Whatchamacallit shows, these were the same elite economic cartels where France and Germany were using even before World War II and with sneaky offshoots in Belgium in case shit got tricky. So the word socialism, I think, has to be...

1:33:57 This is a very elite kind of disguised use of the word in a similar way, in some sense, that we see with AOCA being used for the Democrats that have moved so far right to become Dick Cheney. So, yeah, anyway. Yeah, I can't disagree with that. I don't know where you are at all along, but that screeching noise in the back is very distracting.

1:34:28 Southern, go ahead. Yeah, I kind of fell across this because Thatcher really intrigued me when she became prime minister, the way she handled things. Plus, you know, I was a young female growing up trying to see women who were independent. So I had to go across the pond. But the thing that was interesting about Margaret Thatcher was she was a Milt Friedman.

1:35:02 Milton Friedman fan. She did some really good things. And Reagan copied a lot of that. But they both ended up with the same problem at the end. They cut interest rates. They deprivatized. They did a lot of things to create more opportunity. But monopolies, big guns got involved. The big guns from the top.

1:35:32 So you were kind of back into this monopoly again. It just wasn't owned by the government. So that's the part everybody drops off the plate when you're looking at a playbook. They don't have the oligarchs, the international syndicates, you know, all those people that are influencing money, controlling money. So moving forward.

1:36:00 What is the best way to run a country financially? Because I remember Thatcher saying, you know, we shouldn't be a society. And she explained it very clearly, but her voters were very confused.

1:36:19 Because she didn't want people being dependent on the government. If I have a problem, then the government needs to solve it. She wanted less government. She wanted to deprivatize the oil and gas. But I guess what I'm trying to get across here is I see all these societies that come up with all these plans and their models. But at the end of the day,

1:36:48 They do not factor in international impact with people who control money and power. So how do you build the right model or can you financially? Well, you can if you empower the individual, which is basically going back to our republic and eliminate the central bank concept.

1:37:14 That's critical. And the one thing that I will tell you that I've noticed about Thatcher and Reagan is that their internationalism militarily and the overthrow of governments was done collectively. I think and this is just my opinion that the focus.

1:37:44 on the economy was a distraction for everyday people for them to use the might of the government outside of their respective countries in furthering the international syndicate oligarchs' wealth. So we will give you peanuts by giving you a tax cut.

1:38:13 You guys go ahead with the propaganda that we're going to feed you. You guys will think we're the best leaders that have ever come around. But unbeknownst to you, at the same time.

1:38:26 We are going to go overthrow the government of Nicaragua. We're going to go overthrow the government of Angola. We're going to go create the Iran-Iraq war. All of those things were going on during their administration. But because we were fat, dumb, and happy at home, because we got thrown some peanuts in a tax break, I personally no longer think either one of them.

1:38:53 was good overall. I think that there was an agenda to give us peanuts while they were eating steak. That's just my opinion. Yeah, because I've been looking at a lot at financial models. Scott Bassin has gotten my attention. He's interesting. But I look at what their intent was.

1:39:20 And it was the right things, less government and breakup monopolies, don't have us having the government run business. But at the end of the day, we're playing in a small sandbox and somebody else owns the playground. And you're completely right. And it's frustrating because you would think after all this time that we would have

1:39:50 A better model. Well, I think you're never going to find a better model than the one that our forefathers, the founders, gave us. The problem was that with all of the amendments, they destroyed our model. Yes. So to me, we have the model. We know how it needs to be done. It's going to require removing the amendments that destroyed the model.

1:40:18 Yeah, but we have now a weaponized legal system that interprets the law, not follows the Constitution. Like I said, we're going to have to go back. Yeah. And I'm trying to, how? I mean, I'm watching Trump, you know, everybody screams at Pam Bondi, and I'm like, she's dealing with all these crazy judges right now.

1:40:42 And they're also that's a double whammy for us because it's distracting her from doing the other things that we need to get done. I think this is being done to show you how corrupt the judicial system is. And I believe the plan in order to address that it is. But in order to do what's necessary to fix the judicial branch, there there has to be.

1:41:11 Everyone has to be shown how bad the judicial branch is. And I think that's what all of this is about. In order for us to have the backbone, in order to walk through the fire that is going to be required to reclaim our republic, you first have to show people just how corrupt it is.

1:41:39 I agree. But I also know something about people's behavior. They usually follow the least path of resistance. Well, you make the other one that least painful. And I think that's what's happening. So I talked about and I will post the name of that book. I'm sorry I didn't bring it in here. But that book, the the author of that book, Craig Unger, we.

1:42:08 He's the guy that the very first first book review I ever did on Substack was the House of Sod, the House of Bush. That kind of was like the first several articles that I wrote. He wrote that book, too. He is someone that is obviously a fantastic writer. He's a fantastic researcher, but he has blinders on.

1:42:37 He has only ever written books about Republicans and how corrupt they are. And he's 100 percent correct. But he has never written a book about the Clintons. He never wrote a book about LBJ. And at the end of the book, he makes some comment about Trump being in bed with Putin, believing all of the Russiagate bullshit. And you wonder how someone can be that smart.

1:43:07 And that retarded at the same time. But they're out there. Well, unfortunately, they're hanging off of their people who think he walks on water. People, once you get to that level, they're surrounded by yes people. Unfortunately, Unger. No, Unger is a normal, everyday run of the mill reporter. He is he is not a.

1:43:39 But he is he has blinders on as it pertains to political parties. Again, very smart man. And you wonder how that you can do all of it. And as a matter of fact, it's hilarious when you read the book and how he acknowledges the Republicans, namely Casey and Reagan and Bush could have never gotten.

1:44:10 away with the October surprise without Lee Hamilton, who was a Democrat from southern Indiana. I lived in his district when I lived in Indiana. Totally corrupt politician, bar none.

1:44:26 When I was living in Indiana, there was two Democrat districts in the entire state. One was Gary up in the north, just outside of Chicago. And the other one was Lee Hamilton's down in Jeffersonville, right across from Louisville, Kentucky. The only two Democrat areas, the only two Democrat representatives from the entire state was from those two districts in Indiana.

1:44:49 He was as corrupt as corrupt can be. There was always allegations of election shenanigans, blah, blah, blah. So he acknowledges in his book that without Lee Hamilton, Reagan, Casey and Bush could have never got away with the October surprise that Lee Hamilton, leading the investigation in the House of Representatives, basically sold the farm and protecting them, not calling all of the...

1:45:18 They found boxes and boxes of receipts of the weapons that we sold to Iran through Israel in an abandoned women's restroom in the basement of the Senate building. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it's crazy. So they had the documents to put all of them away, and Lee Hamilton buried it, like literally buried it in the basement.

1:45:49 And so he knows that, but he kind of makes, he doesn't even make that part a big deal. He acknowledges it. But again, you can't have corruption of one party without complicity of the other party. And because they're all in on it together. And for some reason, that part of it goes right over his head. And it's just mind boggling to me. Yeah, but.

1:46:18 you know, I see people who are Democrats and I'm like, wow, I can't even have a conversation with you. They just don't want to know. They don't want to know. They've bought into the soup and I had no idea how far back we went. I can understand that of a normal person who only ever watches mainstream media. This is an investigative reporter who has uncovered

1:46:48 The fact that the Democrats covered for the Republicans and still has never written a single bad thing like a book, none of them about the corruption in the Democrat Party. I just I can't excuse that. But anyway, let me get over to Miles. Colonel Southern Bell, this is for you. So what we do in here, we read books to find out what really happened in history.

1:47:18 Now, if you want to find out what's happening now, I would suggest three books, The Art of War, The Art of the Deal, and General Flynn's book about Fifth Generation Warfare. So you're talking about judges. So I think part of that Fifth Generation Warfare, as far as setting the narrative and making an example of these judges, and as we...

1:47:47 get into the justice phase of this operation that I think we're under. When you start arresting other people and even politicians, we can talk about George Santo, but you have to let the public know that look what they did to Trump and who are these judges? Who put them there? So once you start...

1:48:17 getting these arrests. And it's going to send a message to these other judges that when we bring cases before you, you better do it the right way. Because look what happens if you don't. Look what these other judges are doing. So they have to set this example right now. And I think that's part of... Oh, no, no. I agree with you. I've read The Art of a Deal and I've read The Art of War. I've not read General Flynn's book.

1:48:46 but I will read it. Okay, well, I'll land there. Yeah, because my problem with these judges is I went and did deep dives on them. They all have a family member somewhere tied with an NGO. So it's a very collectivism in D.C. with these judges. And most of them, they shop for the judges. They were Obama, Bush, same problem.

1:49:17 And I think there was one Clinton. Yes, one Clinton. But they have a lot of judges. And one thing that Obama did, Mitch McConnell really hammered down on not getting judges for Obama. But in Obama's second term, he got a ton in. And we're dealing with them right now. And some of these are the ones that prosecuted some of our January 6th people.

1:49:45 So, and we cannot figure out how this one judge, Busberg, he's picked up four of the cases. They're supposed to be done in some type of what he called round robin or something, but he gets them all. So this is conspiratorial. This is unethical. And they are, as I said, they're not following the Constitution. They're interpreting it. And that's the problem. But we have to go through this to get this out.

1:50:14 Trump is very good at, it reveals people. And they're being pressured to do this by the party. So, again, once people get so immersed in the Democrats, it's like a cult. Logic is not on the table anymore. Critical thinking skills is not on the table anymore. They are bought and sold for, and they're fearful. They are fearful because this is all coming out.

1:50:44 It's a painful time. It's expensive. And they're using the immigrants because they want them for votes. They want them for the 2030 census so they can have more federal money in their state. They want to pick up seats. They don't want to lose seats. Right now, they're positioned to lose 12 seats. What's going to get worse is California and New York. So they're in a fear factor mode now, trying to survive.

1:51:10 But the bottom line is we play in a sandbox, but we don't own the playground. And I'm trying to learn through this, how do we impact and change? And I'm concerned about 2026 because Republicans don't turn out. And this is one thing we have to really pressure is to make sure.

1:51:29 that we get a ton of elections in 2026 so we can finish what Trump has started. And I'm just trying to learn because I have a voice and I want to be able to help educate, but motivate people, motivate people to move. Okay. But thank you for the opportunity. Thank you. Sure. All along. Go ahead. All along. All along. Miles, go ahead. Yeah. Southern bell. Just one more thing.

1:52:10 Once we figure out the election integrity part of this, they don't have a chance.

1:52:16 They've been stealing everything. Oh, I know. And I pray that that is, but I also know how the media is weaponized. They have less of our tax dollars to play against us. But I also know if we can get to a certain GDP and everything, Trump is going to kill taxes for people under 150,000. Democrats will never get elected again. So that's another possible opportunity as well. But again.

1:52:42 Once we find out somebody's on – look at this. We live with Joe Biden for four years. Did you see many people leave the Democrat Party? Some. Some. Not a lot. Yeah. Okay. All along, are you there? I don't know if we lost him or not. Wicksell? Hey, Colonel. Hi. So in the 2010s, I was in the libertarian think tank world and academia.

1:53:17 And I was in investment management, but I was constantly going to these conferences, and my investment firm was just off of the campus of George Mason University. And so I would often go to the economics department, and they'd have regular meetings, kind of like a social group, or economists would get together and present their research.

1:53:47 hash it out and stuff. And a lot of these people were Mont Pelerin Society members. And so from my perspective, the ones at the time and kind of the current generation, I would say most of them are true believers. And then there's probably some of them that are kind of spooky. And so it's kind of interesting to see how a lot of them are just kind of programmed to think that the government is just dumb and gets in the way of the market.

1:54:19 And they have a certain interpretation of history that supports that. And so I think they don't really realize, you know, how they're just a pawn on the chessboard, but that's just my perspective. Thank you for adding that. I think that's maybe true of the members. The leaders were definitely aware of their position and their,

1:54:49 agenda of creating propaganda that facilitated their funders agenda um that's fairly clear all along um yeah colonel just now the point that was just made i think it gets back to what you were saying earlier about how these folks were essentially a lot of them were economists and yet they

1:55:23 you know, which gave them a kind of ability to put things in, you know, seemingly social science-y objective terms. Yet at the same time, their commitment to a free market was very, very qualified. In other words, they were doing all kinds of political sneaky stuff that was in many ways the opposite of a free market, you know.

1:55:51 and that was working with the older European elites with the CIA to establish NATO. But the economic guise gave them, I think it's often used to say, to convey the opinion that this is almost like an objective science rather than a subjective machinations of corporations and elites. And the other thing I just wanted to say related to,

1:56:22 You know, your your point about how it one can't get one of the parties can't get away with covering up their profound corruption without, you know, the cooperation of the other. Right. Yes. It's an essential point, I think. And I think it's also, you know, we see that also, you know, in what I consider the what I call the controlled left or, you know, what CIA.

1:56:51 calls the compatible left is like, you know, they're not, if I were an actual left, right. And I wanted to like put, raise the political costs on the Democrats for becoming basically the liquors of Dick Cheney. And, you know, moving in, in ways that created as much economic inequality as Herbert Hoover did only in a much more difficult situation, like.

1:57:20 such as Obama did between 2009 and 2012 when the media was talking about shovel-ready, New Deal-sounding rhetoric. And lo and behold, Obama creates the greatest wealth inequality of any president in U.S. history and was the other Herbert Hoover, too, or the other Hoover by increasing national security can-do-anything type shenanigans.

1:57:47 Why is the left such good forgetters? They're professional forgetters. They don't ever talk about October surprise of 1968 or 1980. And because to do that, if they actually talked about all of this deep corruption that involves the CIA, then the Democrats would not be able to become 100% CIA, right?

1:58:16 It's like they pretend to be the critics of the Democrats, but they're actually, they're an aluminum siding best protection possible because they criticize them on everything except that would matter. They have their like short pint-sized labor economist, Robert Reich, who pushes all the New Deal Democrats sounding buttons, but only to support.

1:58:45 A Democratic Party that has, you know, moved to 100% Wall Street to the extent that Obama let Citicorp vet his cabinet. And it's just, we're living in a forgetting machine. And if we don't recognize that it starts at the media, it's one political team. It's one media team and covering up. It's not different.

1:59:14 It's not a different team. They're all playing different roles in the media. And I think this is why we have to focus at a higher level in the consciousness production process by just taking down this media system and figuring out how can we dismantle these overlapping shields that offer the flexibility to protect the corruption and also the unity to protect the corruption because they're one team.

1:59:44 They're a professional forgetting machine. I can't disagree with that. I have to laugh over on Rumble. Thor at the door just posted, I've never met a narcissist who did anything wrong. I love that. Southern, go ahead. Well, I went down my stress path about the media because

2:00:11 Biden, when he was running for office for the first time, was picking up the 65 and older population, which traditionally voted Republican. And I started doing the breakdowns of the voters, and I went, well, I'm at the tail end of the baby boomers, so there's not many of us left.

2:00:30 But the young voters are the ones that are taking it over now. They're on college campuses. Check out Charlie Kirk. They're all voting Republican. They're conservatives. They want a future. They're not interested in ideologue. They're not interested in that, particularly the young men. They have been disenfranchised from the Democratic Party, and they have now moved to the conservative. And this is kind of a phenomena.

2:00:58 that no one expected. So this gives me hope. But more importantly, this younger generation is on social media. They're not watching mainstream media. But we still have, and also too, that blue sky, whatever liberal board that came up that everybody was going to leave X because we didn't like the Republicans or the Trumpers, and we're going to go over there.

2:01:24 Most of them have come back to X. So we still have an opportunity to be a voice, to be a voice. I agree. Miles, go ahead. Yeah, the media part of this is really interesting, and I can't prove certain things, but I would say that you just can't turn something on and off with a switch. You can't just buy a media outlet and just change everything.

2:01:55 you know, in a weekend and say, oh, we're going to start telling you the truth. So I think it has to be infiltrated slowly and switched in a certain process. So you still have to put out, you know, propaganda on the bad guy's side and slowly let the other good stuff seep in. And I think that's happening.

2:02:24 I'm not going to point out any proofs of that, but I do think that, you know, we all dropped Fox, you know, in 2020. And now it seems like something's going on at Fox, which I can't really explain, you know, depends on what show you're watching. But I see it in other media that they're slowly going to bring us in there to start telling the truth.

2:02:52 It's not going to be any 10 days of darkness or anything like that and just give you all the truth all at once. So that's not going to happen. Sure. Thanks. OK, so I don't see any more hands. We're past six o'clock, so we're going to go ahead and sign off. Hopefully tomorrow or the next day we will be done with this book and we're going to move on to Kevin Shipp's book, which is going to blow your mind.

2:03:23 Bridget, go ahead. Can I just say one thing? Sure. I skunked the boys this morning. I am tagged out on turkey season and all the boys, all the men, my husband and their friends all came home without a bird. I'm just saying. Congratulations. Yay. Yeah, that's a big deal. I remember my.

2:03:51 X and, um, turkey season every year. Um, he was bow hunter, um, gun hunter, whatever. Um, and that was an exciting time and wild turkey has got to be one of the most delicious things that you can ever eat as far as I'm concerned. Amen. Oh my God.

2:04:16 I had no idea there was even a difference, but there's a huge difference. And that's what everybody, they do not taste like a store-bought turkey. They are not gamey at all. They are not. I mean, they taste, they are a delicacy. And so it's an amazing thing. And yeah, tagged up. Skunk the boys. I love it. I love it.

2:04:43 All right, guys. Thanks for being here. I will see you tomorrow at four o'clock. Take care. Thank you, Colonel. You're welcome. Thanks, Southern.

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Friedrich Hayek founded Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 1:28

“was at the behest of Hayek. He was an Austrian economist. Now, I have to preface everything that we're going to talk about today with the fact that so many of the cast of characters came from Austria.…”

Mont Pelerin Society founded Friedrich Hayek documented ▶ 1:28

Mont Pelerin Society member_of Friedrich Hayek documented ▶ 5:39

“Back to the seeds sown in the late 1940s by Hayek and his fellow members of the Mount Polloran Society. Agreeing on proper terminology was one of their first tasks. And again, I can't say this enough.…”

Mont Pelerin Society front_for Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 9:13

“So they are modeling their initiative off of the Fabian Society. Hayek would elaborate on why he and his associates wanted to emulate what had been done a generation before. In an essay that was entit…”

Mont Pelerin Society funded Friedrich Hayek documented ▶ 11:50

“So they're going to go out and look for people to sponsor this complete propaganda machine. Hayek received most of his initial funding for Mount Pelerin Society from a group of Midwestern U.S. busines…”

Volker Fund funded Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 17:28

“and when Volker died in 1947, he was also put in charge of the company's philanthropic trust, the Volker Fund. He decided to begin sponsoring Hayek, and among the first things that he did was go to th…”

Friedrich Hayek appointed University of Chicago documented ▶ 17:28

Harold Luhnow member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 17:28

Harold Luhnow funded Friedrich Hayek documented ▶ 17:28

Jasper Crane funded Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 17:28

Ludwig von Mises appointed New York University documented ▶ 17:58

“at the University of Chicago, thus beginning his ensconcement into the very fabric of America. The conservative funds had secured Ludwig von Mises a position as visiting professor at New York Universi…”

Raymond Aron member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 22:20

“and delayed the implementation of their ideas. The meeting at Mount Pelerin continued where it had left off. The group that met at Mount Pelerin in 1947 included prominent intellectuals like Raymond A…”

Maurice Allais member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 22:20

Karl Popper member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 22:20

George Stigler member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 24:57

“and the predominant schools were Chicago. The University of Chicago had emerged during the 1930s as a center in opposition to FDR's New Deal policies. They would later become known for an emphasis on …”

Aaron Director member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 24:57

Frank Knight member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 24:57

Luigi Einaudi member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 25:28

“K-N-I-G-H-T, and people like Aaron Director and George Stigler, S-T-I-G-L-E-R. Among the people who joined Mount Pelerin Society after its incorporation in November of 1947 were Austrian sociologist A…”

Alfred Schütz member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 25:28

Luigi Einaudi headed Bank of Italy documented ▶ 26:01

“I-E-I-N-A-U-D-I. He was the governor of the Bank of Italy and deputy prime minister. And I'm not sure how you say his last name, but he, the following year, would become the second president of the It…”

Luigi Einaudi installed Italy documented ▶ 26:01

Ludwig Erhard member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 27:02

“Because we know all of this history now, if you read this book, you would not understand the importance of this author because they don't mention it. With that guy in the Mount Palarin Society, if you…”

Ludwig Erhard headed BND host_asserted ▶ 28:05

“he would go on to become the German chancellor, which means he was in charge of the Galen organization to become the German BND. Other people, prominent politicians, was U.S. Secretary George Shultz, …”

Carlos Cárceres member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 28:05

Dick Armey member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 28:05

George Shultz member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 28:05

Václav Klaus member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 28:35

“Britain's Foreign Secretary Jeffrey Howe, Britain's MP Enoch Powell, and Czech President Vaclay Klaus. They described themselves all as liberals, but to the outside, they constantly was promoting what…”

Jeffrey Howe member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 28:35

Enoch Powell member_of Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 28:35

Friedrich Hayek member_of London School of Economics documented ▶ 33:23

“became a major theme. Hayek's colleague at the London School of Economics wrote him that the most important mission for a new international academy of political philosophy would be to strengthen democ…”

Leonard Leo funded Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 35:35

“Leonard Reed, R-E-A-D, president of the Foundation for Economic Education, co-sponsored the first meeting of the Mount Pelerin Society. He found that many of the attendees were socialists who labeled …”

Foundation for Economic Education funded Mont Pelerin Society documented ▶ 35:35

Mont Pelerin Society funded Marshall Plan host_asserted ▶ 44:45

“basically used as a market, which is exactly what the U.S. oligarchs wanted. They wanted the European market and why they used our taxpayer dollars to fund the restoration through the Marshall Plan an…”

Ludwig Erhard carried_out_attack West Germany book_quoted ▶ 47:36

“pronounce themselves in favor of a new way of doing business. So in other words, don't ever let a crisis go to waste. In June of 1948, Ludwig Earnhardt had, without the consent of the Allied authoriti…”

Ludwig Erhard member_of Mont Pelerin Society book_quoted ▶ 48:32

“early on. Earnhardt joined the society in 1950, and by 51, almost all of his associates had become members. So again, you're talking about a large amount of people that is falling under the influence …”

Mont Pelerin Society funded Heritage Foundation book_quoted ▶ 49:34

“the original goals of the Mount Pelerin Society. Let's see. Some of these think tanks that were associated with the Pelerin Societies would include the Hoover Institution, the Heritage Foundation, the…”

Mont Pelerin Society funded Mercatus Center book_quoted ▶ 49:34

Mont Pelerin Society funded Hoover Institution book_quoted ▶ 49:34

Mont Pelerin Society funded Institute of Economics in Paris book_quoted ▶ 49:34

Mont Pelerin Society funded Centre for Independent Studies book_quoted ▶ 49:34

Mont Pelerin Society funded Fraser Institute book_quoted ▶ 49:34

Wilhelm Röpke member_of Mont Pelerin Society book_quoted ▶ 53:19

“First, an outcome of his economic thinking. Second, a product of the liberal and conservative intellectuals from the early 1920s and 30s. And third, as a wish to contribute combative propaganda. And h…”

Wilhelm Röpke member_of Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 55:44

“He also thought that it represented Satanism. And this comes from somebody that's basing their thought process on the Fabian Society, which embraced eugenics and everything else. In general, the neoli…”

Wilhelm Röpke recruited Albert Kramer book_quoted ▶ 57:15

“about modern dictatorships and used them as justification for his liberal and conservative alternatives. During the Second World War, Roebke linked up with German Catholic conservative Albert Kramer a…”

Wilhelm Röpke targeted_for_regime_change Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 1:00:54

“represented the typical soft-in-the-head intellectual with his relativism values. Ropke equally denounced those fearful of the atom who failed to understand that the West could only dissuade the Sovie…”

Wilhelm Röpke member_of Research Association for National Political Work book_quoted ▶ 1:03:06

“democracy organization. Two members proposed that Kropke join their board of directors. Again, all of it was, here's even a quote, it was their job to, quote, fight against the red defamers and the an…”

James Burnham member_of Australian National Review book_quoted ▶ 1:06:34

“James Burnham, a well-known author of the managerial revolution, had his own column entitled The Third World War. And keep in mind that the Fabian Society, which gave birth to all of this, said very c…”

Friedrich Hayek founded Mont Pelerin Society host_asserted ▶ 1:15:58

“of political environment. And so again, Hayek himself created this organization and the use of the organization behind the scenes was very different from what he espoused publicly. That's kind of the …”

William F. Buckley member_of Australian National Review host_asserted ▶ 1:16:27

“is that especially on the conservative side with people that we've associated before we woke up with William Buckley and the people that wrote at National Review and all of these other things, they po…”

Paul L. Williams founded Operation Graduate host_asserted ▶ 1:16:55

“in the way that you and I are conservative. Does that make sense? No, I agree. No, that makes perfect sense. And I guess because I remember looking very favorably about William F. Buckley until I foun…”

William F. Buckley member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 1:16:55

Paul L. Williams member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 1:16:55

Paul L. Williams member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 1:17:22

“He was very, very good friends, very good friends with William Buckley. Now, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with Paul Williams, but he was directly affiliated, hung around with, socialized, …”

William Wells member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 1:17:43

“people that may be protégés of these people, because eventually, like William Sowell, goes out on his own and unequivocally moves away from anything that's liberal. And he is the first one to tell you…”

Chiang Kai-shek carried_out_attack Formosa host_asserted ▶ 1:21:02

“historical non-truth like Taiwan was a democracy in the 1950s. And you just, again, you have to, yeah, that's not true. They were under martial law for 40 years. So any discussion of Taiwan's history …”

William Casey carried_out_attack October Surprise host_asserted ▶ 1:23:59

“on the outside but inside. And you can tell that by some of the different things that he did. Namely, there's no way he pulled off, as the campaign manager, the quote-unquote October surprise, which w…”

Lee Hamilton covered_up Iran-Contra affair host_asserted ▶ 1:24:59

“Bush over there on some supersonic aircraft. There are a handful of people that have said on the record, and it's part of the congressional investigation that Lee Hamilton ran and covered the entire t…”

William Casey carried_out_attack October Surprise host_asserted ▶ 1:25:22

“that William Casey orchestrated those meetings in Paris and I forget where the other one was, someplace else over in Europe. There was at least three meetings and the weapons people that it was a brot…”

Israel supplied_arms_to Iran host_asserted ▶ 1:25:50

“As a result of, there were spare tires. And again, Israel was used as the link to provide those weapons to Iran in exchange for holding the hostages until the day Reagan was sworn in. The only require…”

Jimmy Carter carried_out_attack Iran hostage crisis host_asserted ▶ 1:26:19

“is that because Casey was affiliated with the CIA unofficially, was the Halloween massacre, that the destruction of the covert capability on the books, because they didn't destroy it off the books, of…”

Mark Thatcher member_of Milton Friedman host_asserted ▶ 1:34:28

“Southern, go ahead. Yeah, I kind of fell across this because Thatcher really intrigued me when she became prime minister, the way she handled things. Plus, you know, I was a young female growing up tr…”

Ronald Reagan carried_out_attack Angola host_asserted ▶ 1:38:26

“We are going to go overthrow the government of Nicaragua. We're going to go overthrow the government of Angola. We're going to go create the Iran-Iraq war. All of those things were going on during the…”

Ronald Reagan carried_out_attack Nicaragua host_asserted ▶ 1:38:26

Ronald Reagan carried_out_attack Iran-Iraq War host_asserted ▶ 1:38:26

Craig Unger founded House of Bush host_asserted ▶ 1:42:08

“He's the guy that the very first first book review I ever did on Substack was the House of Sod, the House of Bush. That kind of was like the first several articles that I wrote. He wrote that book, to…”

Lee Hamilton covered_up October Surprise book_quoted ▶ 1:44:49

“He was as corrupt as corrupt can be. There was always allegations of election shenanigans, blah, blah, blah. So he acknowledges in his book that without Lee Hamilton, Reagan, Casey and Bush could have…”

Mont Pelerin Society founded North Atlantic Treaty Organization host_asserted ▶ 1:55:51

“and that was working with the older European elites with the CIA to establish NATO. But the economic guise gave them, I think it's often used to say, to convey the opinion that this is almost like an …”

Barack Obama covered_up Democratic Party host_asserted ▶ 1:57:20

“such as Obama did between 2009 and 2012 when the media was talking about shovel-ready, New Deal-sounding rhetoric. And lo and behold, Obama creates the greatest wealth inequality of any president in U…”

Citigroup funded Barack Obama host_asserted ▶ 1:58:45

“A Democratic Party that has, you know, moved to 100% Wall Street to the extent that Obama let Citicorp vet his cabinet. And it's just, we're living in a forgetting machine. And if we don't recognize t…”