The Colonel’s Corner Safe for Democracy Part 12 (13)

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0:00 Good afternoon, Colonel. How are you? I'm jamming. Hold on. They did such a great job with that. They truly did. Okay, let me get my microphone and my camera set. All right, we're here. Okay, first of all, right out of the shoot, I apologize. I did not do any U2.

1:29 Finishing videos. I unexpectedly had the pleasure of watching my grandson on Saturday and keeping him overnight. So that was off. And then Sunday was the last day of the Strawberry Festival. So I was a little busy. But we'll get back on it. I promise. Okay. We left off on page 147 in our book under the chapter called Acceptable Norms of Human.

2:01 Do not apply. That's ominous. Okay, Dwight Eisenhower, a general with broad military experience, would have been better equipped at determining the feasibility of covert operations. As president, he accepted the Cold War rationale, encouraging covert operations as an integral part.

2:34 of how the U.S. would be dealing with it. He managed intelligence better than many presidents before him. The record shows President Eisenhower intimately involved in covert operations. The story of how he managed to do this while preserving the claim that he didn't know anything demonstrates how masterful he was at doing it and claiming.

3:04 plausible deniability during it. Ike's key lay in the use of his staff, a habit he no doubt acquired from the military. At the strategic nuclear level, Eisenhower did much to resist a stampeding arms race, though his achievement has been tarnished by revelations of his delegation of authority to use nuclear weapons.

3:38 In one sentence, it says that he resisted the arms race while delegating authority to launch nuclear weapons, just to be clear. But as the man who institutionalized covert operations, the man that institutionalized covert operations, while leaving office and said, oh my gosh, look what I did. Ike does not emerge as a moderate.

4:11 It is apparent and now largely accepted by historians that Eisenhower relied on covert operations. He institutionalized covert operations precisely by creating mechanisms to manage them. Because if you're not going to use them on the one-off chance something comes up and you go, oh my gosh, we probably need to use it there, you wouldn't have institutional mechanisms to use it all the time.

4:44 The president did this even while Indochina and Guatemala ventures were in progress. President Eisenhower began his quest for a new system for covert operations in 1954 when Ajax shone as the CIA's crowning achievement. You know, the overthrow of Mossadegh in Iran. Ike wanted to replace Truman's top secret national...

5:14 Security Council order, which prescribed the procedures for approval. Truman's 10-5 panel, the Psychological Strategy Board, had endorsed covert operations informally, but Truman's directive merely gave the group authority to regulate the Office of Policy Coordination, which is Frank Wisner's unit, the covert operations.

5:43 Eisenhower abolished the PSB, the Psychological Strategy Board, in the summer of 53, making the Truman directive obsolete. With the OPC, Frank Wisner's, merging into the CIA, the Iran and Guatemala covert operations were approved in ad hoc fashion. Eisenhower's new order, signed on March 15, 1954,

6:12 was the 5412 National Security Action Memorandum. It brought the system into sync with this new structure. In his directive, General President Eisenhower, for the first time, gave formal powers to his management mechanism for secret wars. Within three months, the CIA, without orders, sank a ship off of San Jose, Guatemala.

6:41 a vessel moreover belonging to an ally, which we covered last week. To enhance morale, President Eisenhower openly expressed satisfaction to the CIA's Guatemala secret warriors, but privately he determined to get an independent review. Staff members approached General James Doolittle, who agreed to lead the study group.

7:10 President Eisenhower's final instructions in a letter on July 26, 1954, three days before his White House reception for the members involved in the coup of Guatemala, asked for a comprehensive review of the factors involved, the personnel, the security, the cost, and the efficiency of covert operations, along with an assessment of how to equate the cost.

7:42 to the results, like he's running a business. The panel would report to Eisenhower personally on how to improve them. Jimmy Doolittle was a good choice. He was a dynamic leader of airmen who had bombed Japan in 1942. This was immortalized in the book and movie 30 Seconds Over Tokyo. Doolittle had experience in wartime special operations and understood them well.

8:20 Doolittle knew President Eisenhower from Britain in 1944 when he had a subordinate air command to Eisenhower. He had met Eisenhower in early July 1954, then sat down with William Frank Morris Hadley and who? None other than William Polly to perform the review. Okay.

9:02 Let that sink in just a second. William Polly, the guy that's in Southeast Asia setting up the opium empire, Curtis Airline franchise, working with Paul Helliwell, Taiwan, all of that stuff. That guy that's setting up this kind of stuff in Southeast Asia with Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, is asked by President Eisenhower to set up...

9:33 on a review panel to evaluate the covert overthrow of the Guatemalan government, along with General Doolittle. Doolittle's committee held its first meeting at CIA headquarters on July 14th. It received extensive briefings from the agency, from the State Department, from the Office of Secretary of Defense, from the FBI, and from the Bureau.

10:06 of budget. By July 29th, Doolittle had assembled a staff and had his review in full swing. After seeing both Alan Dulles and Frank Wisner, Doolittle and consultant J. Patrick Coyne, C-O-Y-N-E, inspected CIA installations in Western Europe. Isn't that weird? That's not where PB's success was happening. Why were they in Western Europe?

10:41 On September 30th, the report for the study group on covert activities went to the president. Doolittle's report gave solid support to the rationale of waging a secret war. In the second paragraph, and I'm quoting, as long as it remains national policy, another important requirement is an aggressive, covert, psychological, political,

11:12 and paramilitary organization more effective, more unique, and if necessary, more ruthless than that employed by the enemy. No one should be permitted to stand in the way of prompt, efficient, and secure accomplishment of the mission. So when the mission is overthrowing a government for united fruit, that's their policy.

11:44 Be more ruthless than the enemy. And the enemy is the indigenous people of the country. The same thing in Iran. The enemy was Mosaddegh and you need to be more ruthless than Mosaddegh. So serious was the conflict with quote unquote communism that there were no rules to the game. None. The acceptable norms of human conduct do not apply.

12:21 The secret warriors could have asked for no better. And keep in mind, they went to Europe, to NATO, where Gladio is ran. Doolittle's report also criticized performance in several areas. It concluded that the agency staff of 5,000 could be reduced 10% without impact. You know, you got to throw a bone in there somewhere.

12:52 Only in 1959 and 60 did CIA budgets provide for any reduction at all. And keep in mind, this study was done in 54. And then the budget was only reduced by 1%. The fusion of Frank Wisner department and the OSO, which was the one they were always quibbling about, Doolittle termed a shotgun marriage.

13:27 The report warned that Cold War functions of the Directorate of Operations overshadowed its espionage role and the committee recommended that it be reorganized into a viable combined staff. Dulles should be given more support on covert action with staff provided by the National Security Council for better implementation of 5412. So what that's saying is that they want

13:57 A staff embedded in the National Security Council to run covert operations and be connected to the CIA. All of the Doolittle report's recommendations were controversial. Eisenhower asked Doolittle to discuss them with Alan Dulles personally. And General Doolittle did. Then he saw Ike on October 19th and told him.

14:28 The study was a constructive critique. He thought Dulles' basic problem was organizational. The CIA had grown a little topsy, but neither the director nor Frank Wisner were especially good organizers. Doolittle remarked that Alan Dulles had taken personal criticism very well, but fought for the people to the point of becoming emotional.

14:57 Doolittle cited their mutual comrade, Walter Bedell Smith, who had once said that Allen was too emotional to be in a critical spot and that his emotionalism was far worse than it appeared on the surface. Now, keep in mind, this is the reason why I did this book after The Devil's Chessboard, because everybody that personally knew Allen Dulles basically said he was cold.

15:28 as steel. Eisenhower replied, quote, we must remember that here is one of the most peculiar types of operation any government could have, and it probably takes a strange kind of genius to run it. Calling Alan Dulles a genius. The president also defended his CIA director. He had not seen Alan Dulles show the slightest disturbance, which is more characteristic of Alan Dulles.

16:04 Plus, Eisenhower emphasized that Allen Dulles had contacts everywhere. Who else are you going to get? Doolittle tried one more tact, referring to the relationship between Allen Dulles and the Secretary of State. Having brothers in those two posts created problems that would be better if they didn't exist. Eisenhower continued to resist strenuously.

16:32 He had appointed Allen Dulles in full knowledge of that relationship, Ike said. It did not disturb him because CIA's work was an extension of the State Department and because a confidential relationship between the two brothers was a good thing as far as President Eisenhower was concerned. You know, because we can talk about it when we're at family dinners and we don't have to document any of it. Quote,

17:03 I'm not going to be able to change Allen, the president said flatly. He wasn't allowed to change out Allen Dulles because he owed the presidency to Sullivan and Cromwell, who basically told him he was hiring Allen Dulles and John Foster Dulles. So here you have the oligarchs through Sullivan and Cromwell running the State Department and the CIA, and the president has no ability to remove them.

17:37 Now you know why I say the CIA does not work for the president. The president went on saying, I have two alternatives. Either get rid of him and appoint someone who will assert more authority or keep him with his limitations. I'd rather have Alan as my chief intelligence officer with his limitations more than anyone else I know. What the president did instead was work hard to implement his system.

18:11 First, he tried to do it through the Operations Coordination Board, OCB, which was a subgroup under the National Security Council supposed to focus on implementation. It was the successor to the Psychological Strategy Board. So they didn't really get rid of it. They just renamed it. The presidential directive gave the OCB Operations Coordination Board.

18:40 Operations being covert operations. The authority over all covert operations. The OCB was not senior enough to be making decisions on projects, and it included more officials than ought to be concerned about covert operations. So on March 12, 1955, a revised National Security Action Memorandum, 5412-1, Eisenhower created a new

19:09 planning coordination group to be advised in advance of all covert operations. It would be the quote unquote normal channel for giving policy approval for such programs, as well as coordinating all support. So we're going to be running covert operations out of the National Security Council. Why is that important? Well, go back and read that article that I just wrote on Sandy Berger.

19:41 Sandy Berger was the National Security Council chief advisor for Clinton. That has not changed. They used the National Security Council. That's why Oliver North was on the National Security Council when he was running the Iran-Contra operation. That is why they had to fire General Flynn. They didn't want anybody on the National Security Council that they didn't control.

20:21 This remained inadequate, according to President Eisenhower. In delineating the CIA's responsibility to seek project approval, the directive mentioned a need to know. The agency interpreted this to mean that not all elements needed to be briefed to the NSC because they didn't have any. When the CIA insisted it had been completely forthcoming, Eisenhower countered by setting up a panel.

20:54 of designees in the White House state and the Pentagon plus Dulles. Ike's designee was his special assistant for national security affairs. This committee was so high powered that there could be no question about its need to know. It became known as the 5412 group. We've talked about them a long time ago.

21:26 After this directive, there was another National Security Action Memorandum, 5412-2, on December 28, 1955, and it became known as establishing the special group. This is the one that, despite all of the legal interpretations in the CIA by their chief lawyer, that they weren't allowed to conduct covert operations unless they got a separate funding line from Congress.

21:55 This basically made that a mute issue as far as the president's staff was concerned, that this group could approve anything they wanted to, no questions asked. Any problems with a project went to the president through his special assistant. That was their built-in plausible deniability. His voice was Eisenhower's on that committee.

22:30 While Eisenhower had set up his plausible deniability by establishing the 5412 group, he remained in constant contact with every single member. He just didn't go to the group meetings because he didn't have to because he had his guy there. The president also held White House postmortems like those following Iran and Guatemala, along with

22:58 annual reviews on ongoing planned projects. He had those semi-annually. Eisenhower's commitment is clearly demonstrated in 5412-2. The directive provided the secret warriors the broadest possible charter. So we're going to go over a couple of the things. The one that's the most damning is paragraph three.

23:31 And I'm going to read it. The NSC was determined that such covert operations shall to the greatest extent practicable in the light of U.S. and Soviet capabilities and taking into account the risk of war be designed to A. Create and exploit troublesome problems for international communism. Impair relations between the Soviet Union

24:00 and communist China, and their satellites. Complicate control within the USSR, communist China, and their satellites. And just as an aside, their satellites is anybody they deem a communist. They don't actually have to be a satellite. They don't have to even talk to them. But as long as I say they are, they are. Back to the paragraph three.

24:31 and to retard the growth of the military and economic potential of any of them. Discredit the prestige and ideology of international communism and reduce the strength of its parties and other elements. C, counter any threat of a party or individual, individual, directly or indirectly responsive to communist control.

25:01 to achieve dominant power in a free world country. So I'm going to rephrase C. Counter any threat party or individual that is directly or indirectly, meaning I just say they are, responsive to communist control to achieve dominant power in a free country.

25:37 D, reduce international communist control over any area of the world, giving them the world as their playground. E, strengthen the orientation towards the U.S. of peoples and nation of the free world. Accentuate whenever possible the identity of interest between such people and nations in the United States, as well as favoring where appropriate.

26:09 Those groups genuinely advocating or believing for the advancement of mutual interest and increase the capacity and will of such people and nations to resist communism. So in other words, go anywhere in the world and make sure that every single country is aligned with the United States.

26:42 And if they're not, you're free to do whatever you want. In accordance with established policies and to the extent practicable in areas dominated or threatened by communism, develop underground resistance, Gladio, and facilitate covert and guerrilla operations.

27:11 and ensure availability of those forces in the event of war, including wherever practicable, provisions of a base upon which the military may expand their forces in times of war within active theaters of operations, as well as provide for, listen to this, provide for stay-behind assets and escape and evacuation facilities.

27:42 5.412-2 gave the CIA the authority to establish Operation Gladio stay-behind units all over the world. Take a deep breath. One critical controversy concerned legislative oversight of the intelligence function. The executive branch itself posed the issue in 1955 when another study group called the Hoover Commission, mandated by Eisenhower, looked for a situation.

28:20 looked at the situation, sorry. General Mark Clark, an old army colleague of Eisenhower's, led that study group and took a jaundiced view. Clark recommended a congressional joint committee on intelligence, similar to a panel that was watching over atomic energy.

28:42 Soon there were a score of bills before Congress proposing to regulate intelligence, including one by Democrat Senator Mike Mansfield of Montana, with no fewer than 34 co-sponsors. Although Ike had requested the Hoover Commission report, he rejected Clark's recommendation and moved to head off the Mansfield bill. His dual response embodied the formation.

29:11 of the president's board of consultants on foreign intelligence activities. A citizen's consulting group that would work directly for him. Gosh, I wonder who would be there. Some of the oligarchs that were going to be overthrowing governments to satisfy them.

29:40 There were also supporting supervision by existing secret subcommittees of armed forces panels in both the houses of the Congress. The subcommittees gave form to these arrangements. The Senate defeated the Mansfield bill with a vote of 59 to 27. More than a dozen co-sponsors turned against their own bill on the floor, as well as all the members of the Armed Forces Intelligence Subcommittee.

30:13 I would venture to say they were all bought off. For years, bills similar to Mansfield was introduced at every session of Congress, but none of them ever passed. Despite the more formal structure, this could not be called oversight. Intelligence officers had no duty to respond to this oversight board that the president set up. It was strictly a presidential advisory group.

30:42 to keep the congressional subcommittees supposedly fully and currently informed. Agency directors appeared with budget requests, and the CIA would answer explicit questions if asked, but no one volunteered anything. Contacts on programs, as opposed to briefings on questions of intelligence analysis, were kept to a minimum. Don't question us. According to official records,

31:13 In 1955 and 56, the CIA provided just one briefing to the Senate Armed Forces Subcommittee and none at all in 1957. The average for the decade from 55 on works out to be fewer than two a year. Such encounters, as occurred, were hampered by the CIA's obsession to protect itself and its quote-unquote sources and methods.

31:43 Real reasons could be quite different. On one occasion in the 1950s, when Alan Dulles expected tough inquiries as a result of a successful Soviet penetration of a CIA covert operation, the director told his assembled Wisner crews, quote, well, I guess I have to fudge the truth a little, unquote. Dulles would admit the full truth.

32:19 would say that he had given the full truth to the subcommittee chairman. That is what he wants to know. And if you remember in the other book, Dulles would meet the congressman in the hallway and the congressman would say, I don't really wanna know, just say you briefed me. This will constitute it in the hallway. And then another time Dulles was quoted as saying,

32:53 I'll just tell them a few war stories. If necessary, the legislature's made it easy. Senior senator and congressman on these subcommittees appreciated their access to the world of spooks. Republican Senator Leverett Saltonstall of Massachusetts once expressed it this way, quote,

33:37 That's your oversight. As the president's board of consultants, Eisenhower relied upon the group not so much as a watchdog. That is what it was.

33:50 told to everybody else that it was, but as collaborators. The best way to think of the board would be as efficiency experts. Ike underlined this by his selection of the first chairman, who was Dr. James Killian, K-I-L-L-I-A-N. He was, at the time, the White House science advisor.

34:19 you know, right around the time we're doing MKUltra. The Killian board, as it became known, included other notable scientists, military men, including General Doolittle, and a few captains of industry, of course, because that's who the CIA works for. That's who I worked for too. It stimulated advances in intelligence technology. Yeah.

34:53 like LSD, all kinds of science stuff. So the secret warriors marched on, led by their president, insulated from outside inquiry, ordered to stir up trouble anywhere they found a communist, whether it was real or not. There remained questions of capability, an area in which Eisenhower would make extensive use of his private consultants, but one where the president himself

35:26 would have to engage. While Eisenhower struggled to manage covert operations, secret wars continued aplenty. The mid-50s was a high point for secret warriors in Europe, especially in the use of psychological warfare. The Americans took advantage of spontaneous outbursts of resistance in Soviet satellites.

35:54 The closest the Eisenhower administration ever came to fulfilling a commitment on rolling back the Iron Curtain. They actually had no intentions of rolling that back because they used it to justify these excursions all over the world. If some had had their way, more than propaganda would have been involved. Yeah, we know. Curtis LeMay wanted to tactical nuke everybody. The CIA and the British had used Russians and Ukrainians.

36:27 expats for espionage and liaison eastern europeans could be found in the army's 10th special forces that's important because that's where the detachment alpha people were their entry was facilitated in a 1950 lodge bill and an amendment in the 1951 mutual security act it set aside

36:56 for army units that were basically made up of only eastern european people now keep in mind remember we got from eastern european we got the nazis um banderites in um ukraine we got the crazy ones from albania um and check these are all fascist those are the people that fled

37:25 Not that other people didn't. We weren't interested in the other people, though. They wanted the fascist because they wanted to attack the Soviet Union. Aside from the exiles that were integrated into special forces units, the army did nothing with the mandate with which it had been saddled. Russian propagandists had a field day accusing the United States of subversion.

37:56 Wisner told Tracy Barnes in the winter of 51 that the U.S. was taking a beating on this question because the Soviet Union was pointing out accurately that we were recruiting fascists into our military. Congress nevertheless appropriated money and several budgets. When Eisenhower became president, he tried to persuade the army to cooperate with this.

38:29 Eastern European unit. Ike would later say, just how high does a fellow have to go in this outfit before he can call the shots? Because the army was resisting. They didn't want these fascist people in the army. But what happened is at the lower levels, the CIA, whether they were technically on the army books or not, used them as if they were in their stay behind units.

39:03 using the money. When Eisenhower became president, he tried, let's see, he tried to persuade the army to cooperate. But army leaders continued to have problems with this. The CIA then took the lead. They started recruiting basically what amounted to an American foreign legion. That's what I was just talking about.

39:42 One of the code names used was Red Sock, Red Cap, linked to this project. According to CIA officer James Angleton, the exile force ensured the CIA's ability to act. This is where the whole Detachment A concept comes up because the CIA just started doing it on their own. They didn't even pretend that they needed. And as a matter of fact, if you guys remember when we were talking about that story on Alpha Warrior Show.

40:13 Almost no one in the army's chain of command even knew Detachment A. The one guy that was over there in the 10th Special Forces had been in the eastern part of West Europe doing special operations stuff. What he thought was the highest classified, I watched it in one of those videos on their website. He was in what he thought was like the highest classified mission doing basically gladio training of exiles.

40:42 And when he got tapped on the shoulder to be in Detachment A, he was flabbergasted because no one in his former chain of command knew anything about Detachment A, and they were in the most classified special operations going on at the time, they thought. And even they didn't know about Detachment A. President Eisenhower prescribed a strategy quite strictly through a series of National Security Council directives.

41:14 For Eastern Europe, the governing orders were a general policy series along with the directive, quote, U.S. objectives and actions to exploit the unrest of satellite states, unquote. In February of 1955, there followed another one labeled exploitation of Soviet and European satellite vulnerabilities, unquote. The administration reviewed progress.

41:44 on achieving the objectives that were outlined in these two documents. In July of 1956, Eisenhower adopted a revised directive. By then, events already in motion triggered a renewed crisis in Eastern Europe. In 1956, the crisis originated in Moscow, not Washington. In late February, Khrushchev, consolidating his

42:13 power as Stalin's successor, criticized and decreased, criticized the deceased dictator, Stalin, in a secret speech at the 20th Congress. Khrushchev laid bare corruption and rigidity in the Stalin government.

42:44 In the speech, the speech became an important lever of Cold War. Here, the leader of Russia, the Soviet Union, admitted flaws in Stalin's leadership. The speech even discussed Stalin's personal intervention in the affair in Hungary and Yugoslavia that had led to a split with the Yugoslavians. Khrushchev offered a new socialist legality.

43:17 It was political dynamite. Khrushchev's political maneuver succeeded, but the text of his remarks was leaked to the CIA. It materialized after Alan Dulles ordered a search. Quote, I have already regarded as one of the major coups of my tour of duty, unquote. One copy came from the Polish communists and another courtesy of Mossad.

43:46 A further copy seems to have come from contacts in Italy. The text sat on Wisner's desk. The CIA undertook careful authentication both internally and with academics. Ray Klein, then the chief of the Office of Current Intelligence, judged the Khrushchev leaked speech as authentic. The use of his speech quickly became a point of contention.

44:20 Klein recommended publishing it as a psychological warfare move. Wisner wanted to keep it secret and use it to mobilize Eastern European resistance. The question was decided at a very high level. Ray Klein recalls laboring with Dulles on a talk that Dulles would deliver. It was a Saturday, June 2nd, 1956.

44:49 Dulles suddenly interrupted his work, swung around, and looked intently at the intelligent analyst. Wisner says you think we ought to release the secret Khrushchev speech. Klein related his reasoning. He writes that the old man had a twinkle in his eye. By golly, I'm going to make a policy decision, Allen Dulles said. Dulles phoned Wisner and told.

45:18 that he had given the matter great thought and decided the speech should be printed. This version is suitably romantic. But the fact is that three days earlier on May 31st, Dulles had given a speech to the National Security Advisor, Dylan Anderson, asking that secrecy be kept a pending, that it be kept secret pending a decision as to what they were going to do with it.

45:48 It is inconceivable that Anderson did not show the president it. If Klein quotes Alan Dulles accurately, Dulles may have amused himself by hoodwinking his own staff members. The rendition infuriated James Angleton, the case officer for the Israeli agents who had helped get a copy of the speech. In retirement, Angleton denounced the Klein account.

46:19 The counterintelligence expert stayed true to form in believing that Frank Wisner's option of secretly using the speech to foment resistance was the proper course. Meanwhile, Khrushchev's speech appeared in the press on June 4, 1956, the result of an Eisenhower decision, we're told. The consequences of Khrushchev's relations played into the CIA's ongoing propaganda campaign.

46:49 of broadcast through Radio Free Europe, it had moved ahead to special targeted initiatives. Operation Veto, inaugurated in early 54, encouraged long-term resistance in the Soviet areas, especially Hungary. Operation Focus succeeded Veto. Both urged Hungarians to demand concessions from their communist government.

47:19 The CIA radio being broadcast into Hungary 20 hours a day over Voice of Free Hungary. They also dropped tons of leaflets. It had a major role. By this time, Radio Free Europe had a substantial capacity to exploit Khrushchev's words. Surveys later showed that more than 80% of the Hungarians listening to Radio Free Europe

47:49 while only 20% had gotten a leaflet. According to the CIA's own post-mortem, in the four months between publication of the secret speech and the Hungarian revolution, radio-free Europe was non-stop. There were also riots in Poland in reaction to the news of Khrushchev's de-Stalinization.

48:18 With these came the return of the communist faction that was responsible for earlier purges. Soviet troops deployed momentarily, but were recalled. Jan Nowak, heading Radio Free Europe's Polish broadcasters, kept the reporting low-key, avoiding exacerbating the crisis. The Russian leader visited Poland and diffused the issue.

48:50 Khrushchev also went to Yugoslavia, where his talks led to a declaration that there were multiple roads to socialism. This, too, was featured on Radio Free Europe. That news electrified Hungary. The CIA knew it had a problem. Eisenhower's directives set a strategy, a vigorous challenge to Soviet control.

49:21 James Angleton later confirmed, were not ready. The Gladio arms, they actually used that. The Gladio arms caches could not be drawn down either. If this crisis brought war, they would be needed, indicating that they knew they were there. Because again, this was Hitler's territory. The Gladio caches are there. The radios had no...

49:55 action capability, talking about the radios in the weapon caches. In short, the CIA faced a huge gap between the course it urged Eastern Europeans to take and any ability to assist them doing it. About to embark on an inspection trip to Europe, Frank Wisner had Al Ulmer out to his vacation home in Maryland. Ulmer had worked in the

50:25 Far East Division. He had then headed stations in Athens and Vienna and had an idea of the enormity of the situation. The two men could only scratch their heads in frustration. Some sources maintain Wisner maintained possible arms shipments to Hungarian rebels when he saw Richard Bissell later that weekend. Bissell's own account completely ignores the Hungarian crisis.

50:55 Others note a private meeting where Foster Dulles overruled his diplomatic experts and his brother Allen, who advised having U.S. forces hold military maneuvers in Austria. Nothing like using the military. The White House records show this option never reached the NSC table that we know of. On October 23rd, demonstrations swept through Budapest.

51:28 Demanding a new government under Nagy, a previously purged Hungarian. Reinstalled as premier, Nagy's opponents continue to control the party. Radio Free Europe broadcasts encourage Hungarians to press the Nagy regime on liberalization. Nagy sponsored reforms, but despite his resistance, party leaders invited Soviet forces to restore the order.

52:01 Agency psychological warfare expert Cord Meyer, who had supervised Radio Free Europe since 1954, awakened the morning of October 24th to a phone call from Dulles, who ordered him to the headquarters immediately. All hell has broken loose in Budapest, Dulles said. In Paris by now, Wisner gathered high-powered field officers to brainstorm a plan. They included William Durkee.

52:29 a deputy to Cord Meyer, who had handled Radio Free Europe almost from its inception. Michael Josselson, a CIA specialist on cultural operations. James MacHarger with Free Europe. And Carl Kalase, a Hungarian specialist. William Griffith, a political director for Radio Free Europe. You can just see the whole Radio Free Europe is nothing but a CIA operation.

53:00 They produced no new ideas. Mac Carger brought in a former senior Hungarian politician and sent him to Vienna to contact people at home. But that resulted in little information. Wisner proceeded to Germany. Tracy Barnes found the DO staff so tightly wound that he felt he was going to have a nervous breakdown. Arrest by Hungarian secret police triggered widespread revolt.

53:30 outraged citizens murdered members of security detachments but then 10 000 russian troops entered budapest within days streets were engulfed in dead bodies the story in cia lore is that officers in budapest scribbled reports lying on the floor of the u.s embassy while bullets whizzed over their head radio free europe covered the events too though according to the cia

53:59 no Radio Free Europe broadcast to Hungary before the revolution could be considered as inciting armed revolt and non-promised U.S. military intervention. Some Hungarian exiles on Radio Free Europe staff could not resist statements about Western support, inflating Hungarians' hopes for help. In a Radio Free Europe programming review, Bill Griffith

54:30 noted that on October 27th, the broadcast said, fairly clearly implies that foreign aid will be forthcoming if resistant forces succeed in establishing a central authority, unquote. The next day, there was an announcement on the air, quote, Hungarians must continue to fight vigorously because this will be the great effect on the handling of the question by which the Security Council acts.

55:00 On October 30th, it was said, Nagy has not enough Hungarian blood to reign, unquote. On Radio Budapest, Nagy appealed for outside help. Jeffrey Blythe, Budapest correspondence for the London Daily Mail, encountered a large crowd of Hungarians near the Danube one day. He watched the sky.

55:27 Where are the Americans, he was asked. Where are the British? When are they coming? Everyone there thought there was going to be help. On November 4th, Radio Free Europe broadcaster Zoltan Thury commented, quote, in the Western capitals, a practical manifestation of Western sympathy is expected at any hour, unquote. Radio Free Europe review Bill Griffith conducted declared this broadcast to have been.

55:57 the worst break of all in the radio's policy. Though Thury's daughter, Eva, later countered that Griffith himself had set the policy for Radio Free Europe Hungarians and that on November 4th and over the following days, he made himself scarce. Griffith's post-mortem tried to shift the blame onto the Hungary desk chief, Ador Golart.

56:23 in poor health during this period, who had delegated virtually all his script approvals to others, among them subordinates who practically never attended a single staff meeting. Sig Mickelson, a president of Radio Free Committee and foremost historian for it, sees the radio as having dealt with the crisis with excess exuberance. They led these people to slaughter.

56:54 And his assessment is there was excess exuberance. Lawrence D. Neufeld, formerly CIA's man on the production of the movie called Animal Farm, had been with Radio Free Europe since 1954. D. Neufeld termed the entire guidance exercise a sham and delusion. Quote, Radio Free Europe was regularly sending guidance to Washington and Munich about its broadcast.

57:25 but it was all just mud in your eye because they simply ignored their own guidance, unquote. Even worse, though, the CIA had a full department dedicated to translating journals and broadcasts from Eastern Europe. No one bothered to do the same for the Radio Free Europe broadcast. So no one really had any idea what they were saying. When C.D. Jackson wanted to see some transcripts, they had to be translated for him.

57:53 They had never even been translated into English for approval. The Russians withdrew temporarily at the end of October, but surged back not long after on a full-scale offensive. Griffith mentioned that the withdrawal on October 28th. Notes of Soviet Politburo meetings showed that Khrushchev briefly considered a deal with Nagy, but the complaints of the members and the views of Yuri Andropov

58:23 russian's ambassador to budapest canceled that possibility griffith's report was overtaken by events assistance to the rebels became an immediate question at cia as it had been in the eastern berlin episode the crisis caught the directorate of operations unprepared the most alan dallas could do a recommendation to eisenhower that the u.s end humanitarian

58:52 medical units to Hungary, which of course would not have been medical units, amounted to an unfeasible proposition. The military risk to Western Europe from an intervention had not changed since 1953. The president's answer had to be the same. On two separate occasions in the Hungarian crisis, Eisenhower rejected proposals to drop weapons. The second came after the

59:22 appealing for U.S. help. Eisenhower ended the debate asserting that Hungary was inaccessible to us as Tibet. But Tibet didn't prove to be too inaccessible, did it? Because we went in there and put stay behind units in it. We even extracted people out of it and brought them to Colorado. Good grief. The Russians moved on, moved in on November 4th with more than 200,000 troops.

59:54 and 2,500 armored vehicles, reconquering Budapest by November 8th. Eisenhower administration, meanwhile, largely diverted by the unfolding Anglo-French intervention at Suez, had less and less time to even deal with the Hungary situation. It didn't matter at that time because the people are already dead. Frank Wisner, impatient to be on the scene, reached Vienna on November 7th.

1:00:27 His deputy chief of station at Vienna, Pierre de Salva, saw little to do. Events moved too fast for the CIA. Station officers like William B. Hood, an espionage specialist, and John Mapother, a political action man, looked on in horror. The day after Wisner reached Vienna, Soviet tanks completed the conquest of Budapest.

1:00:57 Accounts by former CIA officers suggest the agency people in Hungary were caught up in the events of the rebellion and barely escaped across the Austrian border. Vice President Richard Nixon and former OSS chief Wild Bill Donovan, like Wisner, came to Vienna to see for themselves, receiving some of the fugitives. Nixon went to the border one night. There he asked,

1:01:27 Budapest students weather Radio Free Europe in the Voice of America had encouraged the rebellion. They all said yes, but we didn't hear about that here. Almost 200,000 refugees made it to Austria. Casualty estimates range up to 30,000 dead and 50,000 injured. All because we were running our mouth on Radio Free Europe for something we were never going to back up. That's just crazy.

1:02:02 And everybody had to run, go see. And notice that they're talking about CIA people actually being in Hungary, fomenting this. It's crazy. Nagy, his heroic former defense minister, and more than 200 others were executed. Some 30,000 Hungarian refugees fled to the United States where they were received at a special facility at Camp Kilmer in New Jersey.

1:02:38 Army intelligence set up a debriefing center where interrogators led by Dorothy Matlack tried to find out all they could about the events. Never let a catastrophe go to waste. Eisenhower's decision affected the secret warriors' morale. The DO officers saw in Hungary exactly the end for which the agency's paramilitary capability was designed to prevent.

1:03:09 Some felt intervention could have been carried out without war with the Soviet Union. In passing up the opportunity, Bill Colby recollected, quote, we demonstrated that liberation was not our policy when the chips are down in Eastern Europe, unquote. Harry Rotsitz said, it was clear that the steady barrage of assurances that the West was firmly opposed to the continuing of communist exploitation

1:03:39 of the people could not fail to give Radio Free Europe listeners the hope that the U.S. would come to their aid, unquote. Wisner, too, in a way, broke on the Hungarian anvil. After one night at the border watching these activities happen, Wisner bitterly proceeded to Rome, where Deputy Station Chief Bill Colby

1:04:11 like Barnes in Germany, found him close to a breakdown. In fact, Wisner could hardly continue. Back home, he had to go on vacation. On December 16th, he was checked into a hospital. He had contacted hepatitis. At least that's what we were told. Eisenhower ordered Alan Dulles to do a formal analysis of Radio Free Europe's part in the Hungarian.

1:04:46 basically massacre. The director assigned this task to Cord Meyer. With the help of two Hungarian-speaking analysts, Meyer made a full survey of their broadcast, you know, because they weren't in English. His conclusion, Cord Meyer, quote, I am satisfied that Radio Free Europe did not plan, direct, or attempt to provoke the Hungarian rebellion, unquote. That went to the president. It's a lie.

1:05:18 And Cord Meyer wrote the lie. The highlighted passage on the White House copy among the paragraphs of justification for even why we have Radio Free Europe said, quote, a few of the scripts reviewed do indicate that Radio Free Europe occasionally went beyond the authorized factual broadcasting of the demands of the Patriot radio stations within Hungary to identify itself with these demands and urge their achievement, unquote.

1:05:48 So don't read the fine print. The overall assessment was we were not involved. It went on. There were some evidence of attempts by Radio Free Europe to provide tactical advice to the patriots as to the course of rebellion should take and the individuals best qualified to lead it, unquote. So they're picking out the leaders, but we didn't have anything to do with it. The broadcast, the report concluded that the broadcast went beyond specific guidance.

1:06:23 though the uprising itself resulted from Soviet repression. Eisenhower ended the PSYOPs campaign like Operation Focus and tightened the control over Radio Free Europe's broadcast decisions and ordered an end to the leaflet program. Why the hell are you spending millions of dollars dropping leaflets to increase...

1:06:56 And then you write a report saying we were not involved. The last loose end was the CIA's Liberation Army. Liberation Army? Upon returning to duty, Frank Wisner again said about initiating a resistance project now in Czechoslovakia. But he also obsessed over starting a rebellion that might fail spectacularly and point to the CIA.

1:07:28 Even Alan Dulles saw the danger. Eisenhower ordered General Lucian Truscott to dismantle the liberation force. Some immigrants joined the U.S. Army where they ended up in special forces and found themselves in places like Laos. Again, Detachment A, because that's where they went after this whole fiasco. So Detachment A's purpose was to do exactly what had happened.

1:07:59 but they got cold feet and left all those people to die. Because they're telling you all about Gladio, all about the stay behind units. Now, obviously this author is not very familiar with that in the context that he's laying out, but that's what they're talking about. They not only had stay behinds there, but that was their purpose. And they're dropping leaflets, they're sending radio messages in, rise up.

1:08:30 Take back your country. And the expectation was that the US, once they started that, was going to do that. And we didn't. So we just moved on to another country. No problem. Others that, and oh, by the way, I just want to make this clear. They have recruited these people as part of a co-army, but then never gave them the orders to go in and do what their mission was to do.

1:09:07 as it was set up by the CIA, and to throw the Soviets out of Hungary. Okay, in Germany in 1958 would be a high point for this mysterious organization called the Battle Group Against Inhumanity. That one was also a stay-behind initiative that dealt with the OUN Bandera. It was drawing funding from the Crusade for Freedom.

1:09:47 which was a proprietary CIA organization that was being used at the time to fund Radio Free Europe. The battle group would be linked to several 1958 commando-style raids in Eastern Germany. Again, Operation Gladio, Detachment A, including a failed attempt to blow up the Elbe Bridge in Wismar.

1:10:18 These and earlier actions aroused such controversy that the organization was stood down a year later, we're told. They didn't stand down. They just moved them. The agency's capability for paramilitary warfare in Eastern Europe never returned. It didn't leave either. Hungary left bitterness all around.

1:10:46 At the CIA, Bill Colby put it, whatever doubt may have existed in the agency about Washington's policies and matters like this vanished. Eastern Europe now knew that the American claims to support resistance was rhetorical. In the White House, growing awareness of the sensitivities of these activities led to a reduced emphasis.

1:11:17 even in the absence of any effort to do anything with them, which is true. They just spend a bunch of money and then do nothing with them. Okay, that concludes the portion for today. We will finish this chapter tomorrow and go on to the next chapter. And just so that you know, the next chapter gets into,

1:11:53 Some of the Middle East. Crazy. Yes, totally crazy. But it adds a lot of context to what we've already learned. Yeah. And like I said, I know I say this every show, but I'm taking notes of all of these names because there is a lot more names in this book than we've ever had revealed to us about all of the people.

1:12:23 Like we normally in a book will get who maybe the station chief is, but this is like everybody everywhere. I find it really amazing. Ron, go ahead. Not that I needed another reason to despise Eisenhower any more than I already have. But was this more of a CIA thing or was this an Eisenhower directive? Well, Eisenhower is the one that wrote the 541-2-2.

1:12:56 He's the one that gave the authority to the CIA. Now, so Eisenhower's only president because of the Dulles brothers and Sullivan and Cromwell. I mean, so he's going to do whatever they want done. Ultimately, as the president, he's responsible for all of it. But as we know,

1:13:19 from all of the research that we've done, the CIA doesn't really report. The 541-2, and we've talked about it probably two years ago in a lot of depth, it basically was the authority and it set up a committee with civilians, all of which were repped by these oligarchs that were basically able under the...

1:13:48 title of a National Security Council to come in and sit in on meetings that were going to direct covert operations. And it's just, it's a recipe for disaster. And it was all facilitated by Dwight D. Eisenhower. He signed that National Security Action Memorandum that allowed them to do all of it.

1:14:17 What is it with Eisenhower and his softness on communism? I just don't, I don't know. I don't think he was soft on communism, but he also was not going to go head to head with it either. Well, I mean, he was the one who allowed, according to FDR and Stalin and their agreement, he...

1:14:41 He just let the Russians get the entire amount of Eastern Europe, slowing down all the Western forces. Am I wrong there? So that's an interesting observation. I think, based on what I've read, that if you look at the aftermath, and I'm not talking about what happened, you know, like...

1:15:13 the actual aftermath of what happened was that the Soviet Union was used as this, we use the word boogeyman, and if you go back to the origins, the Bolshevik Revolution and all that other stuff, you see that this entire

1:15:38 You find all of the stuff in China that has ties back to the West as well. There seems to have been some acknowledgement that the exploitation or control of the Soviet Union under the tutorship of the communist regime that

1:16:06 They could spend all of their time going about securing all of the other resources and basically like saving the Soviet Union for an upcoming event, which eventually happened in the 1980s. If you look at how that was kind of like a controlled demolition when they were ready, it got thwarted, of course, by Putin, which is why they hate him.

1:16:32 I think it allowed them to do a lot of other things using that as the excuse. And then when they got to the point where they were ready to take that on, it didn't go off the way they expected it. But what I have read about the actual settlement of the... It was almost acknowledged that those countries under...

1:17:00 I'm going to mute your mic while I'm talking here just a second. It was almost acknowledged like the way the, just like Korea. So you're assigned sectors, right, of getting the rest of the Nazis out of there. And the lead up to the end of the war, Churchill and Roosevelt.

1:17:24 had basically reneged on just about everything that was going on. It was later revealed that the Soviets even knew about Operation Sunrise and Alan Dulles making deals with Nazis before the end of the war. So at that point, you've got the Soviets sitting over here who was given that sector on the Eastern Front to basically denazify. And they find out that they're getting stabbed in the back by Churchill.

1:17:54 and Roosevelt. And you almost get the impression, I do anyway, that he was like, fuck you, I'm not leaving then. I want these things as a buffer against all of you guys because you're all traitors to the alliance that I thought we had. And again, I'm not saying Stalin's a good guy, but if you're sitting in that position and you've just lost 25 or 30 million people fighting for what you thought was an alliance,

1:18:24 And you find out towards the end of the alliance that these guys not only have reneged on every agreement, but they're literally getting in bed with the Nazis who just killed 25 million of your citizens. And he just basically throws up his hands and says, fuck you. This is my buffer zone. You don't like it. I don't care. Did you have anything else, Ron? Sorry, I'm trying to fill my car up with gas. This is not easy.

1:19:00 Well, you know, this is kind of like my wheelhouse. You know, I'm going to let somebody else go, and then when I get back, I'll chime back in. Okay. All along, go ahead. Hi, Colonel. I think that this is a really pivotal period in CIA history. Like, what I could say, 1946, and, you know, we know this CIA was not formally created then.

1:19:32 But it was, you know, doing its sing over there in Franco's Spain in the sandbox for international, you know, syndicate. Yeah. That group where literally you had South African Zionists and whatnot. You know, the whole crew that would later go into countries and undermine sovereignty in these nations in accordance with the international, you know, cartel government.

1:20:01 And up until 1955. And just one, you know, kind of comment, I think, about this period gets so little attention. Very, very. It's almost never mentioned, and especially on the so-called left, which is a fake left. And I think that part and parcel of that is, you know, later on.

1:20:32 When the CIA in 1967 comes out with their, you know, conspiracy theory memo, this is kind of like accepted uncritically by not just, you know, the corporate media, which you would expect to accept it. You know, like NBC is, you know, completely, you know, from the very foundation in creation of the intelligence agency. So it's not really a surprise there.

1:20:59 But, you know, where the biggest contradiction is the fake left, which claims to be opposing corporate power. And what is the CIA other than the galvanization of corporate power? As you know, what some folks call, you know, Wall Street's private army. Right. So when you have this, these critical years, these sort of protean years of CIA.

1:21:26 history being completely erased for, you know, not just the mainstream, quote, mainstream media audience, but their so-called critics on the, quote, left, unquote, which is a fake left created by the CIA itself, then it's so easy to call everything conspiracy theory. So it's- You cut off.

1:21:59 Yeah, I just think it's so important that we know how little these years get attention in CIA history. And also, you know, you mentioned, you know, the evolution up to 5412-2 in December 1955, which is like, but going, you know, the changes before then, you know, with the operations coordinating board. And it's like, you think back to it.

1:22:29 And, I mean, on paper, in the creation of the National Security Act of 1947, the CIA is supposed to be under the NSC. It's not supposed to be, like, at the table and in everybody's, bugging everybody's frigging lunchbox like it was by, you know, in some ways it already was, as we know. But on paper, it was not supposed to be that.

1:22:59 that incredible power, you know, involved in policymaking so that it's actually not just carrying out the decisions of the NSC, but actually in the NSC in every nook and cranny, you know, basically making policy. And the changes that we described in these years kind of show that the CIA becoming really, you know, the policymaking aspect of government.

1:23:27 And if you erase that for the general population, again, it's so compatible with the sick propaganda where you just call everything a conspiracy theory. And you know where that has gotten us as a nation. Well, what I find the most fascinating is.

1:23:50 And this is kind of when I came across this, probably at the end of year one, this is where I got the international syndicate moniker from. Because they had basically embedded the international syndicate with the State Department, a representative of the presidency, and the CIA. They're sitting at a table planning their next country to overthrow. I mean, it couldn't be more clear when you read,

1:24:20 4512-2, that's exactly what they did. They actually had a formal organization with civilians sitting at the table deciding which, and you heard the words. It was all about, let's label them a communist and we're going to go in if they don't think the sun sets on the US and our free trade, then.

1:24:49 They're subject to being psychologically, covertly controlled. And that's what I want everybody to get out of this part of this book is they literally set up a panel that had the civilians in the CIA and the executive branch with the Secretary of State sitting at a table deciding the next country they're going to overthrow.

1:25:19 If I could just finish, summarize by saying, I think that that degree of like CIA as policy, you know, maker in the NSC, when JFK eliminated the operations coordinating board, which was, again, first led by two.

1:25:42 You know, you can't overstate the importance of these dudes. C.D. Jackson, first boss of OCB, and then Nelson Rockefeller. Yeah. There's a little bit of resourcefulness around the world. Yeah. You know, and so when JFK ended that, you know, there's a lot of boys in woodwork, you know, monitored differently across the executive, across the nine different departments of the executive branch that are in there.

1:26:10 Did they became activated later as vehicles in the CIA domestic coup? I think they did. Potentially. I mean, they didn't need them. But for the outward psychological operation that followed, yes, 100%. I don't think they needed them. Yeah. I didn't mean to suggest they were needed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:26:37 but more in psychological yes yes yes the follow-up to sell the whole thing yeah the lone gunman yeah we're all going to agree yeah absolutely stellar go ahead hello hey um how are you guys doing um in my simpleton mind um

1:26:57 The stuff that they were setting up and everything, I mean, I'm seeing an untangling of stuff. Oh, by the way, you guys are like really, really, really, really shadow bad. And it's very difficult to find you, by the way. So just to let you know, because you guys are kind of forecasting what's kind of going on right now from the past, because you're like right on top of it, just to let you know. So how I see this in my simpleton mind.

1:27:23 The Dulles people were very, very, very, very, very powerful and whatever. I mean, the OSS, all this other stuff. I mean, they cemented their, you know, like unification or whatever, that one world, new world or whatever. They were setting everything up for what is happening now. And based from what you're saying, these intertwinings and stuff like that, which is.

1:27:50 totally prevalent today. They were setting, as they were doing this, they were already figuring out how to dismantle and Texas, Texas, I mean, and the bushes, I mean, it's just kind of blown. I mean, I'm just kind of blown away by all of this stuff through, I'm glad the CIA is going to be dismantled because these frickers, you know,

1:28:20 It's like they were planning for us in the United States by the shenanigans and the policies and politicians and presidents and all that other stuff set up. Banking, industry, food, everything. But mainly, I mean, never mind. I'm just kind of blown away by all of this stuff. I'm being completely honest with you. And with all this stuff that's coming out, really just kind of.

1:28:47 beyond blown away. And that's all I was going to say. I'm sorry. I'm just blown away. That's okay. That's okay. No, thanks. This book is a, again, it's kind of tutorial for most of the material. It's a good refresher from three years ago when we were first discovering all this stuff going, oh my God, oh my God.

1:29:17 I like the fact that it's geographical and kind of looks at the different areas as well as chronological. It is going through a timeline as well as taking those timelines and digging down into the evolution of this process.

1:29:42 then it is also focusing on geography at the same time and how these different decisions at the macro level was being implemented in the different geographical regions. And I find that kind of fascinating to kind of reorient all of the new people that we have, because this is new information too. I mean, obviously we've grown despite the shadow ban.

1:30:11 exponentially since we covered this material originally, and we know a lot more. When we first discovered this, I would have not known that the book, because they don't call it Detachment A, I wouldn't have known that they were referring to that. But it also illustrates how understanding Vladio as a principle and using our

1:30:40 infamous Gladio glasses, when we read these books, because I read this book quite a while ago, and this was a book that I had from before I ever even found out about Gladio. And so going back over it with our Gladio glasses on, again, I didn't pull out the stay-behind units. That just didn't seem all that important to me.

1:31:08 Now it grows exponentially in importance and how operationally they conducted these covert operations. Stellar, did you want to readdress something? Yeah. You know how I know that you don't do the Q stuff, but because I have a lot of friends that are in the Q movement and stuff like that, I'm just going to say one thing. Like what's happening now, like when they say future proves past,

1:31:40 A thousand years from now, when they look back, because we look back on history as far as strategies, say like with Rome, with Greece, they're going to look back on everything. And the thing that's really unique, instead of looking back 100 years from now and they break down this Operation Gladio and the International Syndicate, you have broken it down for us. I got goosebumps literally in real time.

1:32:10 And I just want to say thank you. And Asia's getting cleaned out too, by the way, because of what you guys were saying, you know, because of what you talked about in the past from what we've learned through you, Bridget, and all of you guys. I just want to say thank you. And I don't mean to be stuttering and stuff, but I'm just like totally overwhelmed. And thank you because all of this stuff, thank you. You're welcome. I'm grateful that I've been tasked to do this. Ron, go ahead.

1:32:40 Well, there was no finer person tasked, I'll tell you that. From the first day that we spoke, I knew that you were on top of it and you were the right woman for the job. I don't understand, what was the point of all of this? Has anybody ever looked out on a 100,000-foot view and said, what was the whole purpose?

1:33:10 of uh of hungary from the cia and the uh and the russia and and the betrayal and what what what what did they hope to what what what what did they achieve with this so they didn't achieve anything except for a bunch more dead bodies um they are at their infancy stage um they've they've just came off of you know the

1:33:38 Ajax and they're basically wanting to poke and see what capabilities they have. Because again, if no other thing was achieved, their psychological value to the real, so let me start at the 100,000 foot look. Their real goal is to go around the world.

1:34:08 and overthrow governments and steal all their shit. We've unequivocally proven that, okay? So if that's what they're going to do, they have to ensure that their boogeyman, the Soviet Union, can be used. Now, if I go in and I basically, and I'm not saying that they faked any of this, but they're allowing, they're funding a,

1:34:37 Radio Free Europe to instigate uprisings that they have no intention of helping. And they're going to watch the Soviet Union put those uprisings down. Well, what psychological value is there in doing that? They're the bad guy. Look, they just slaughtered all those people and all they wanted was democracy. All they wanted was their freedom. And now there's, you know, 100,000 more people dead.

1:35:06 The Soviet Union, it reinforces psychologically that the Soviet Union is bad. And I'm using that psychological value all over the world. Okay. And forgive me, this is not Khrushchev. This is not... It was Khrushchev on the Hungary part. Right. Because Stalin's dead.

1:35:34 Well, Khrushchev, people, I don't know if people realize what a monster Khrushchev was when he was like an underling boss during the 1940s. You know, when those guys were given quotas to go kill people in towns for, you know, the Red Terror type stuff, he was very eager to do way more than was necessary to put his name on the map. So Khrushchev was...

1:36:03 But Khrushchev is the one that wrote that letter saying that he was willing and he did try to talk to the West. And he is the one that put his name on that speech that was entertaining for whatever it was worth, because it was secret until it got leaked out, entertaining the lightning up on the control.

1:36:30 You're right. Again, and that's why two things can be true at the same time. And that's what I want people to understand. I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you on that. And I think that, you know, Khrushchev actually wanted detente with Kennedy. And when Kennedy was killed, basically Khrushchev lost any necessary, he lost any backing that he had.

1:36:57 with the Politburo, and they just basically wished them away, and then they brought in a hardliner, which was Brezhnev. Right. So anybody that, and again, the Soviet Union knew that you could not trust the United States in honest negotiation. They had already been stabbed in the back, continually, through World War II.

1:37:23 I think Kennedy provided them the first opportunity to talk to someone that didn't view the world the same way. Agreed. Yeah. So, Renee, go ahead. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Kind of following up what all along was saying, I posted in the Purple Pill a cool...

1:37:48 I'm pretty sure it's a YouTube video from 1959 after Batista was kicked out and Castro came to the United States and NBC did a Meet the Press with him. And it's very cool to watch with your Gladio glasses on because there's kind of a panel and there's numerous times.

1:38:18 They go in with, well, aren't you communist? Well, isn't your government infiltrated with communists? Well, didn't your brother go to Russia and he's a communist? I mean, you've really got to watch it with your Gladio glasses on. But that's all I wanted to share because it's really eye-opening. You can see the beginning of the propaganda machine and how...

1:38:44 And the United States, people would watch this on NBC and all get, oh, yeah, maybe he's a communist. And bless his heart, I mean, he speaks English, but he has an interpreter next to him. But you don't get this dictator, tyrant energy from him at all. So anyway, I just wanted to share. Go take a look. It's not that long. It's like 30 minutes tops. Okay. Thank you for posting that. Why are you so mad? Go ahead.

1:39:15 OK, this is a little off topic, but I kind of want to pick your brain, Colonel. Two questions. First one is, is there any good when it comes to the CIA? And second question is, how would you go about dismantling it? Would you absorb? I'm just going to leave it. How would you go about dismantling it? And is there any good that has come out of the CIA, considering what it was built for?

1:39:44 I have said unequivocally how I dismantle it. I'd put a lock on the door. I would put a for sale sign on the land and I would destroy the building. There's no good. There's no good that's came out of it. And then bury it under nuclear waste. So no one ever touches the site again. So absolutely no good. You wouldn't try to absorb it into another agency. Absolutely not.

1:40:14 absolutely cut the root and let it die. I think the only good that's there right now under Director Radcliffe, who I don't believe is bad, is the access to the systems and the information that resides there. Because obviously there's an effort to go back through some of the more recent intelligence assets at assessments.

1:40:42 He has been working with Gabbard to do that and basically going back and saying this intelligent estimate was a piece of crap. This one had false intelligence in it. So if you pay attention to that, and I do, they are systematically going back at least to 2016.

1:41:08 Because I believe with the grand juries that are in paneled right now, they are going to prove to the world the nefarious stuff that we've uncovered. And they're going to use that as a justification to get rid of the CIA. The capability of gathering foreign intelligence is already embedded in other organizations that we have that are not the CIA.

1:41:36 That's what I wanted to hear. I just wanted to sit there and go, okay, so pretty much all the systems, we both know that that is covered by, I would just say, really good military intelligence. No, it's not just military, but primarily military. I mean, if you understand what the NSA does, the capability is there. The ability to...

1:42:03 use people to gather intelligence, legitimate intelligence, and assess that intelligence is already there. Because the CIA does not assess intelligence. They create intelligence to justify covert operations. That's my assessment. I don't like even mentioning the NSA considering I've got a nemesis who used to work for it.

1:42:32 Well, I'm just saying, it's an entity that does the same thing. Yes. And as long as it's done correctly and done right, then yes. You need to get to rid the NSA has got just as much bad people as any other entity. I'm not going to argue that point. I'm just saying we don't need the CIA. Okay. So just cut it, expose it first, and then kill it. Yep. Ron, go ahead. I just want to say that, you know,

1:43:03 While I agree with you that the CIA as a whole is not really very good, I do want to say that there's a lot of very good people who work at the CIA, but because of how it's structured with the compartmentalization structure,

1:43:21 Two people don't know that they're working on a nefarious operation. They may not realize they're working on a nefarious operation. They may think they're actually doing something that's good. And so from the structure at the top, what they do is they manipulate.

1:43:36 patriotic patriotic americans thinking they're going to do good things but at the at the very very top level where where things are planned it's basically it's like the uh it's like the millner group rings within rings within rings these a lot of the people data they don't know what it is that they're doing but they are they do believe they're doing something that's beneficial to the country but at the very extreme high levels uh that's where um that's where i

1:44:03 completely agree we just need to turn that building into a pile of nuclear waste? So in theory, I have said repeatedly, this has nothing to do with the people in it as far as the structure and what the end product is. There's no way to go person by person in a relatively short time and find out

1:44:34 what they knew and when they knew it. If you work for an organization that was revealed to be as nefarious as it is in the 1970s, and you go to apply to an organization that you know drugs Americans, uses the media, and overthrows governments, I have no sympathy for you. I don't care how...

1:45:05 compartmentalized you are. We all know what the CIA has done in the past. I honestly have no idea why anyone would go work for the CIA. It's not like we don't know these things. It's not like we don't know they did MKUltra. It's not like we didn't know. All of this stuff has been declassified. And if anybody thinks that with no one going to jail,

1:45:34 And no one being executed for treason and held responsible for the killing of millions of people after they overthrow a government that that entity would ever change doing what they're doing. It's just beyond me. I don't understand it. Now, hold on. Hold on. I'm not done. Hold on.

1:46:01 To Ron's point about being in an organization and not knowing all of the facets of what that organization is doing, I can attest to that. I had no idea that, but again, in the military, there are people generally at the much higher level, like the general officer level.

1:46:27 That have been written on some of the nefarious stuff and go along with it for whatever reason. You can make up whatever reason you want. But we have proven time and time again that there are general officers that fit that description. The only thing that I will say is there's only a certain level that you go up to in the U.S. military where you're not aware of that. And the intelligence.

1:46:56 that is fed to the U.S. military, and I'll give you an example of this, generally originates from the CIA. So if the CIA has decided that, like in Colombia, they are working with the narco elite, the narco political people and the boots on the ground.

1:47:24 The U.S. military is asked to train people that are identified by the CIA as people that are in the National Police or the National Guard in Colombia at, say, the School of Americas or at the Hemispheric School. The people, especially at the much lower levels, believe that they are training people to go back to that country and fight the trafficking of drugs.

1:47:54 They would have no reason not to believe that because the CIA is the one feeding them those people. The higher and higher up you go, especially at the four-star level, when you take command of South Com, there's no way that you're not aware that you are spending billions of dollars. And at the same time, you're watching the narcotics increase every year. That's not something an airman,

1:48:22 or a sergeant in the army pays any attention to at all. They go to a schoolhouse and they train people that show up on their doorstep in whatever the curriculum is, and you trust the people that are much senior than you that they are selecting the right people. So if you use that analogy, the CIA does these trainings as well.

1:48:51 The difference with the CIA is they train people much differently than we do. Even at a, like a mid-level person in the CIA with the access to these systems. And this is kind of been exposed through CIA whistleblowers, the real ones, not the fake ones we see on podcasts all the time, where they will start looking around and mid-level DEA too.

1:49:21 they will start looking around going, hey, that's us. That's us doing this shit. This isn't at all what we were told. And every single one of them that makes that known are driven out. So at some point you're either retarded or you're complicit. And that to me is a very different scenario. So go ahead, Ron.

1:49:50 I was going to say, you know, have you read that book that came out recently, Big Intel, about the FBI and CIA and how they recruit? No. Okay. So great, great book.

1:50:04 The one thing about the FBI and the CIA that are different than a lot of the other agencies is they primarily get a lot of the people that work for them that are coming out of colleges, and they're coming straight from college. And a lot of the people, they are – so they're kind of already brainwashed into this.

1:50:27 This leftist ideology. So by the time that they go to work for CIA and FBI, they're already of that mindset. So I can understand why you say what you say. That's not lost on me.

1:50:48 completely disagree with your assessment that if people don't know that if the CIA is guilty of doing a coup here and a coup there and all these other things, or bringing in drugs, then how can you work for them? So that's actually a point that I had not considered.

1:51:09 And it's I think it's valid. So I just I just wanted to acknowledge that. But I would highly recommend you check out that book, Big Intel, because it really talks about how the personnel at the at the at the at the how they bring them in.

1:51:40 London School of Economics or Yale or Harvard or Boston U or whatever. But anyway, I'll shut up now. All right. Anybody else got anything? I don't see any hands. So I was seeing them. And now when I had to minimize something, it went away. OK, go ahead all along. OK. Yeah, I just wanted to offer a kind of qualifying comment about I know that the idea that Eisenhower.

1:52:11 you know didn't know about all this shit going on under the hood as it were of the you know national security state is it's kind of been strongly overstated and and we know how he went along with he knew all of it he knew all of it fascination um the word all i might have some problems with there but i just want to um point some you know some counterpoint possible counterpoint okay

1:52:44 Um, in 1960, you know, the U2 incident, you know, it's like many writers feel like he did want to kind of have some sort of detente or not, not a full on detente, but at least, you know, put a crimp in the escalation of both the space race and the arms race with the detente in 1960. And we know how the U2 incident.

1:53:09 was deliberately planned by the CIA to scuttle that. And also we know how, you know, later on the U-2 pilot, Gary Francis Powers, was in 1978 giving an interview on a San Diego radio station. He mentioned, gee, you know, isn't it kind of wacky that Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Soviet Union at the time I was shot down and that he had, you know, at a Tsugi Air Force base.

1:53:38 The U2 was CIA's baby, blah, blah, blah. And gee, and then, you know, this is on a big radio station. And then two weeks later, he has a helicopter crash and dies. And I just want to emphasize that the book called Hit List on the major deaths of witnesses and associated journalists is so incredibly good. It has kind of like a dummy book looking cover, but just get it. It's just effing incredible, Hit List.

1:54:07 And the other thing I just wanted to comment on is that, you know, I think you made some points earlier on about the degree to which Congress was just basically, you know, not, you know, MIA from the very beginning. Yep. With the quote about Senator Saltonstall, who's critical. I'm pretty sure that his daughter, if I'm not mistaken, I'm going to check this out.

1:54:38 was married to Ben Bradley of the Washington Post. So think about what, you know, we just heard, you know, you read from the book about Saltonstall saying he did not want to know. And now he's married into the Washington Post. You know, some other folks did not want to know. Their exception to the rule, again, because things change, would be perhaps Phil Graham.

1:55:04 murdered on August 3rd, 1963. And then just to carry that forward, once we become more aware of the fact that Congress had just given up all checks and balances power over the most unchecked agency in U.S. history, I would argue the CIA, other people would definitely disagree with that.

1:55:33 And then, and then you culminate that with the shooting death at Jonestown of, of Leo Ryan, representative Leo Ryan. But it's, I say his name so much because it's so censored everywhere else. And it's like, it's not real seeing it. That incident involving Leo Ryan is not really about an individual per se. It's not simply that he was the strongest.

1:55:59 check and balance on CA in legislative history, but rather you see the entire pattern and no one can say conspiracy theory ever again because we see just for how long this lack of checks and balances has gone on for this agency. Yes, from the very beginning. Yeah, I agree with you.

1:56:24 Can I ask a quick question? All along, is that book by Belzer about JFK, or was it a different one? Yeah, it is. It's the one by Belzer that he wrote with some guy named Wayne, I think. Yeah, like I say, it has kind of like a sort of kind of pop, you know. Yeah, David Wayne. What's that? David Wayne. Yeah.

1:56:53 And it's not only is it a page turner, but it's kind of structural, too, because you see all of the different angles from which the cover-up had to proceed with in society, whether it be journalists. There's a lot of dead journalists in here, and they're so effing interesting. Plus, it's a page turner. It's just such a great book. Yeah, and it's not lost on me.

1:57:22 Senator Saltonstall is from Massachusetts, which would be Boston, which would be the United Fruit guys, and all of the old money that resides in Boston. So he definitely didn't want to know. Yeah, good point. Okay, so we're going to...

1:57:48 Cut it off there. Thanks everybody for being here. I appreciate it. You guys have a nice evening. Now I did want to, there was a couple of things that got added to the schedule over the weekend. Let me check real quick. I think it's Observing Consciousness has a podcast.

1:58:11 Brian and Dwayne Cates and I are going to be on a podcast tonight at eight. And as soon as I get the link, I will share it out to everybody for that. That's tonight at eight. And tomorrow we have our normal four o'clock and then the six o'clock book on stolen election. And yes, it gets more ridiculous just as a heads up. Okay.

1:58:40 and then the rest of the schedule pretty much stays the same. We are trying to work with Redacted to get me back on there at one o'clock on Thursday. So if that gets confirmed, I'll just share that out as well. But right now it's tentatively scheduled for...

1:59:04 the one o'clock hour on their show redacted with Clayton and Natalie Morris, just to kind of talk about current events and what's going on. Okay, and then you guys know Friday is noon and four, noon with War Hamster, and then four o'clock we'll be back here. So that's kind of what the week's looking up to be.

1:59:30 So everybody take care. I do want to let you guys know that this coming weekend, because next week is spring break, we are going to be camping with some friends in South Florida, but I do plan on having our normal show. So if that changes, we'll just have to be flexible next week. All right. So take care. Have a nice evening. Sure. Thank you, Ron.

1:59:59 Take care, everybody.

Entities here

CIA50 Allen Dulles30 Soviet Union25 Dwight D. Eisenhower25 Radio Free Europe25 Hungary25 Frank Wisner19 Nikita Khrushchev14 National Security Council14 Operation Gladio11 James Doolittle11 Budapest9 U.S. Army7 Joseph Stalin6 Guatemala6 Washington, D.C.6 Imre Nagy5 William Griffith5 Cord Meyer5 Operations Coordination Board5 Vienna5 Presidential Board of Consultants on Foreign Intelligence Activities5 NSAM 54124 Raymond Klein4 John F. Kennedy4 Franklin D. Roosevelt4 James Jesus Angleton3 Tracy Barnes3 Austria3 Operation 403 Hit List3 Mike Mansfield3 Germany3 Harry S. Truman3 Iran3 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état3 William Colby3 William J. Donovan3 Poland3 Leo Ryan2

Claims made here

Dwight D. Eisenhower funded Operation 40 documented ▶ 4:44

“The president did this even while Indochina and Guatemala ventures were in progress. President Eisenhower began his quest for a new system for covert operations in 1954 when Ajax shone as the CIA's cr…”

CIA carried_out_attack Mohammad Mosaddegh documented ▶ 4:44

Frank Wisner member_of Office of Policy Coordination documented ▶ 5:14

“Security Council order, which prescribed the procedures for approval. Truman's 10-5 panel, the Psychological Strategy Board, had endorsed covert operations informally, but Truman's directive merely ga…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower removed_from_power Psychological Strategy Board documented ▶ 5:43

“Eisenhower abolished the PSB, the Psychological Strategy Board, in the summer of 53, making the Truman directive obsolete. With the OPC, Frank Wisner's, merging into the CIA, the Iran and Guatemala co…”

CIA carried_out_attack 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état documented ▶ 6:12

“was the 5412 National Security Action Memorandum. It brought the system into sync with this new structure. In his directive, General President Eisenhower, for the first time, gave formal powers to his…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower funded 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état documented ▶ 6:41

“a vessel moreover belonging to an ally, which we covered last week. To enhance morale, President Eisenhower openly expressed satisfaction to the CIA's Guatemala secret warriors, but privately he deter…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower appointed James Doolittle documented ▶ 6:41

Dwight D. Eisenhower appointed Allen Dulles documented ▶ 16:32

“He had appointed Allen Dulles in full knowledge of that relationship, Ike said. It did not disturb him because CIA's work was an extension of the State Department and because a confidential relationsh…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower funded Hoover Commission documented ▶ 27:42

“5.412-2 gave the CIA the authority to establish Operation Gladio stay-behind units all over the world. Take a deep breath. One critical controversy concerned legislative oversight of the intelligence …”

Dwight D. Eisenhower funded Operation Gladio documented ▶ 27:42

Mark Clark headed Hoover Commission documented ▶ 28:20

“looked at the situation, sorry. General Mark Clark, an old army colleague of Eisenhower's, led that study group and took a jaundiced view. Clark recommended a congressional joint committee on intellig…”

Allen Dulles covered_up CIA documented ▶ 31:43

“Real reasons could be quite different. On one occasion in the 1950s, when Alan Dulles expected tough inquiries as a result of a successful Soviet penetration of a CIA covert operation, the director to…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower appointed James Killian documented ▶ 33:50

“told to everybody else that it was, but as collaborators. The best way to think of the board would be as efficiency experts. Ike underlined this by his selection of the first chairman, who was Dr. Jam…”

James Doolittle member_of Presidential Board of Consultants on Foreign Intelligence Activities documented ▶ 34:19

“you know, right around the time we're doing MKUltra. The Killian board, as it became known, included other notable scientists, military men, including General Doolittle, and a few captains of industry…”

CIA recruited 20th Special Forces Group documented ▶ 36:27

“expats for espionage and liaison eastern europeans could be found in the army's 10th special forces that's important because that's where the detachment alpha people were their entry was facilitated i…”

CIA recruited Operation Gladio documented ▶ 39:03

“using the money. When Eisenhower became president, he tried, let's see, he tried to persuade the army to cooperate. But army leaders continued to have problems with this. The CIA then took the lead. T…”

Nikita Khrushchev succeeded Joseph Stalin documented ▶ 42:13

“power as Stalin's successor, criticized and decreased, criticized the deceased dictator, Stalin, in a secret speech at the 20th Congress. Khrushchev laid bare corruption and rigidity in the Stalin gov…”

Allen Dulles ordered_assassination_of Nikita Khrushchev documented ▶ 43:17

“It was political dynamite. Khrushchev's political maneuver succeeded, but the text of his remarks was leaked to the CIA. It materialized after Alan Dulles ordered a search. Quote, I have already regar…”

Mossad spied_on Nikita Khrushchev documented ▶ 43:17

Raymond Klein exposed Nikita Khrushchev documented ▶ 43:46

“A further copy seems to have come from contacts in Italy. The text sat on Wisner's desk. The CIA undertook careful authentication both internally and with academics. Ray Klein, then the chief of the O…”

Allen Dulles covered_up Nikita Khrushchev documented ▶ 44:20

“Klein recommended publishing it as a psychological warfare move. Wisner wanted to keep it secret and use it to mobilize Eastern European resistance. The question was decided at a very high level. Ray …”

Allen Dulles exposed Nikita Khrushchev documented ▶ 45:18

“that he had given the matter great thought and decided the speech should be printed. This version is suitably romantic. But the fact is that three days earlier on May 31st, Dulles had given a speech t…”

CIA funded Operation 40 documented ▶ 46:49

“of broadcast through Radio Free Europe, it had moved ahead to special targeted initiatives. Operation Veto, inaugurated in early 54, encouraged long-term resistance in the Soviet areas, especially Hun…”

CIA funded Operation Focus documented ▶ 46:49

Radio Free Europe carried_out_attack Hungary documented ▶ 51:28

“Demanding a new government under Nagy, a previously purged Hungarian. Reinstalled as premier, Nagy's opponents continue to control the party. Radio Free Europe broadcasts encourage Hungarians to press…”

Imre Nagy installed Hungary documented ▶ 51:28

Soviet Union overthrew Imre Nagy documented ▶ 51:28

Allen Dulles ordered_assassination_of Cord Meyer documented ▶ 52:01

“Agency psychological warfare expert Cord Meyer, who had supervised Radio Free Europe since 1954, awakened the morning of October 24th to a phone call from Dulles, who ordered him to the headquarters i…”

Frank Wisner recruited William Durkee documented ▶ 52:01

Frank Wisner recruited Michael Josselson documented ▶ 52:01

Frank Wisner recruited James McGarger documented ▶ 52:01

Frank Wisner recruited Carl Kalase documented ▶ 52:01

Frank Wisner recruited William Griffith documented ▶ 52:01

Soviet Union carried_out_attack Hungary documented ▶ 53:30

“outraged citizens murdered members of security detachments but then 10 000 russian troops entered budapest within days streets were engulfed in dead bodies the story in cia lore is that officers in bu…”

Radio Free Europe carried_out_attack Hungary documented ▶ 53:59

“no Radio Free Europe broadcast to Hungary before the revolution could be considered as inciting armed revolt and non-promised U.S. military intervention. Some Hungarian exiles on Radio Free Europe sta…”

Zoltan Thury carried_out_attack Hungary documented ▶ 55:27

“Where are the Americans, he was asked. Where are the British? When are they coming? Everyone there thought there was going to be help. On November 4th, Radio Free Europe broadcaster Zoltan Thury comme…”

William Griffith covered_up Radio Free Europe documented ▶ 55:57

“the worst break of all in the radio's policy. Though Thury's daughter, Eva, later countered that Griffith himself had set the policy for Radio Free Europe Hungarians and that on November 4th and over …”

Lawrence D. Neufeld exposed Radio Free Europe documented ▶ 56:54

“And his assessment is there was excess exuberance. Lawrence D. Neufeld, formerly CIA's man on the production of the movie called Animal Farm, had been with Radio Free Europe since 1954. D. Neufeld ter…”

Yuri Andropov spied_on Hungary documented ▶ 58:23

“russian's ambassador to budapest canceled that possibility griffith's report was overtaken by events assistance to the rebels became an immediate question at cia as it had been in the eastern berlin e…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower removed_from_power Imre Nagy documented ▶ 58:52

“medical units to Hungary, which of course would not have been medical units, amounted to an unfeasible proposition. The military risk to Western Europe from an intervention had not changed since 1953.…”

Soviet Union carried_out_attack Hungary documented ▶ 59:22

“appealing for U.S. help. Eisenhower ended the debate asserting that Hungary was inaccessible to us as Tibet. But Tibet didn't prove to be too inaccessible, did it? Because we went in there and put sta…”

Richard Nixon spied_on Hungary documented ▶ 1:01:27

“Budapest students weather Radio Free Europe in the Voice of America had encouraged the rebellion. They all said yes, but we didn't hear about that here. Almost 200,000 refugees made it to Austria. Cas…”

Dorothy Matlack spied_on Hungary documented ▶ 1:02:38

“Army intelligence set up a debriefing center where interrogators led by Dorothy Matlack tried to find out all they could about the events. Never let a catastrophe go to waste. Eisenhower's decision af…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered_assassination_of Allen Dulles documented ▶ 1:04:11

“like Barnes in Germany, found him close to a breakdown. In fact, Wisner could hardly continue. Back home, he had to go on vacation. On December 16th, he was checked into a hospital. He had contacted h…”

Allen Dulles ordered_assassination_of Cord Meyer documented ▶ 1:04:46

“basically massacre. The director assigned this task to Cord Meyer. With the help of two Hungarian-speaking analysts, Meyer made a full survey of their broadcast, you know, because they weren't in Engl…”

Cord Meyer covered_up Radio Free Europe documented ▶ 1:04:46

Dwight D. Eisenhower removed_from_power Operation Focus documented ▶ 1:06:23

“though the uprising itself resulted from Soviet repression. Eisenhower ended the PSYOPs campaign like Operation Focus and tightened the control over Radio Free Europe's broadcast decisions and ordered…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered_assassination_of Kosovo Liberation Army documented ▶ 1:07:28

“Even Alan Dulles saw the danger. Eisenhower ordered General Lucian Truscott to dismantle the liberation force. Some immigrants joined the U.S. Army where they ended up in special forces and found them…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered_assassination_of CIA documented ▶ 1:07:28

Crusade for Freedom funded Battle Group Against Inhumanity documented ▶ 1:09:07

“as it was set up by the CIA, and to throw the Soviets out of Hungary. Okay, in Germany in 1958 would be a high point for this mysterious organization called the Battle Group Against Inhumanity. That o…”

Battle Group Against Inhumanity carried_out_attack West Germany documented ▶ 1:09:47

“which was a proprietary CIA organization that was being used at the time to fund Radio Free Europe. The battle group would be linked to several 1958 commando-style raids in Eastern Germany. Again, Ope…”

Crusade for Freedom funded Radio Free Europe documented ▶ 1:09:47

Battle Group Against Inhumanity attempted_assassination_of Elbe Bridge documented ▶ 1:09:47

NSAM 5412 funded National Security Council host_asserted ▶ 1:13:48

“title of a National Security Council to come in and sit in on meetings that were going to direct covert operations. And it's just, it's a recipe for disaster. And it was all facilitated by Dwight D. E…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered_assassination_of NSAM 5412 host_asserted ▶ 1:13:48

Franklin D. Roosevelt traded_network_to Joseph Stalin host_asserted ▶ 1:14:41

“He just let the Russians get the entire amount of Eastern Europe, slowing down all the Western forces. Am I wrong there? So that's an interesting observation. I think, based on what I've read, that if…”

Allen Dulles traded_network_to Operation Sunrise documented ▶ 1:17:24

“had basically reneged on just about everything that was going on. It was later revealed that the Soviets even knew about Operation Sunrise and Alan Dulles making deals with Nazis before the end of the…”

CIA carried_out_attack Spain host_asserted ▶ 1:19:32

“But it was, you know, doing its sing over there in Franco's Spain in the sandbox for international, you know, syndicate. Yeah. That group where literally you had South African Zionists and whatnot. Yo…”

John F. Kennedy removed_from_power Operations Coordination Board documented ▶ 1:25:19

“If I could just finish, summarize by saying, I think that that degree of like CIA as policy, you know, maker in the NSC, when JFK eliminated the operations coordinating board, which was, again, first …”

C.D. Jackson headed Operations Coordination Board documented ▶ 1:25:42

“You know, you can't overstate the importance of these dudes. C.D. Jackson, first boss of OCB, and then Nelson Rockefeller. Yeah. There's a little bit of resourcefulness around the world. Yeah. You kno…”

Nelson Rockefeller succeeded C.D. Jackson documented ▶ 1:25:42

CIA carried_out_attack Operation 40 documented ▶ 1:33:10

“of uh of hungary from the cia and the uh and the russia and and the betrayal and what what what what did they hope to what what what what did they achieve with this so they didn't achieve anything exc…”

CIA carried_out_attack Hungarian Revolution host_asserted ▶ 1:33:10

CIA funded Radio Free Europe host_asserted ▶ 1:34:37

“Radio Free Europe to instigate uprisings that they have no intention of helping. And they're going to watch the Soviet Union put those uprisings down. Well, what psychological value is there in doing …”

Nikita Khrushchev succeeded Joseph Stalin documented ▶ 1:36:03

“But Khrushchev is the one that wrote that letter saying that he was willing and he did try to talk to the West. And he is the one that put his name on that speech that was entertaining for whatever it…”

Leonid Brezhnev succeeded Nikita Khrushchev documented ▶ 1:36:57

“with the Politburo, and they just basically wished them away, and then they brought in a hardliner, which was Brezhnev. Right. So anybody that, and again, the Soviet Union knew that you could not trus…”

CIA carried_out_attack MKUltra documented ▶ 1:45:05

“compartmentalized you are. We all know what the CIA has done in the past. I honestly have no idea why anyone would go work for the CIA. It's not like we don't know these things. It's not like we don't…”

U.S. Army trained Colombian National Police host_asserted ▶ 1:47:24

“The U.S. military is asked to train people that are identified by the CIA as people that are in the National Police or the National Guard in Colombia at, say, the School of Americas or at the Hemisphe…”

U.S. Army trained National Guard (Colombia) host_asserted ▶ 1:47:24

Gary Powers mentioned Lee Harvey Oswald host_asserted ▶ 1:53:09

“was deliberately planned by the CIA to scuttle that. And also we know how, you know, later on the U-2 pilot, Gary Francis Powers, was in 1978 giving an interview on a San Diego radio station. He menti…”

Benjamin Gilman married_into The Washington Post speculative ▶ 1:54:07

“And the other thing I just wanted to comment on is that, you know, I think you made some points earlier on about the degree to which Congress was just basically, you know, not, you know, MIA from the …”

David Wayne authored Hit List host_asserted ▶ 1:56:24

“Can I ask a quick question? All along, is that book by Belzer about JFK, or was it a different one? Yeah, it is. It's the one by Belzer that he wrote with some guy named Wayne, I think. Yeah, like I s…”

David Bell authored Hit List host_asserted ▶ 1:56:24

Benjamin Gilman associated_with United Fruit Company host_asserted ▶ 1:57:22

“Senator Saltonstall is from Massachusetts, which would be Boston, which would be the United Fruit guys, and all of the old money that resides in Boston. So he definitely didn't want to know. Yeah, goo…”