The Colonel's Corner Dark Alliance by Gary Webb Part 7

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0:00 You say hello? I hope you can hear me, Colonel. I can hear you. Thank you, Colonel. If you go over to Rumble, you can see my grandbaby. He's waving at everybody. Nope, you can't have my water. Yes. Hi, Jimmy. Hi. Yes. All right. Go see Mama. All right. Let's get this party started.

0:35 Obviously, I was a little distracted. All right. The next two chapters is going to be crazy. So let's get started. All right. We're going to discuss a little bit more about Daniello Blanton. Now, keep in mind, this is the Nicaraguan that was good friends with Somoza, who comes to...

1:09 you know miami before he goes to los angeles now he's um into the drug business and basically he's struggling right we we learned that he's not really all that good at it his real tie is to menenez in san francisco so menenez drug network in san francisco was well established

1:40 He had already, in 1981, distributed 900 kilos, nearly a ton, of cocaine through San Francisco. His business was thriving. Menendez Network in Los Angeles was still struggling. So he had a couple of dealers there. In late 1981,

2:15 there was an arrest and subsequent flight of his West Covina dealer, Julio Bermudez. He had been moving about 20 kilos a month before he got arrested. While Blanton struggled to create a customer base, he made himself very useful. He becomes his secretary. He's now kind of his accountant in Los Angeles.

2:44 keeping the books, helping the relative of Menendez run the restaurant, that type of thing, collecting cocaine debts. So Menendez used him to pay the cocaine suppliers off the ships coming in from Colombia. And he had also been, let's see. So he gets interviewed.

3:18 And during the interview, he says, yeah, I keep the books. So he had a different bookkeeper up in San Francisco. So we were running the Los Angeles operation. And he says, yes, that's exactly how it worked. The relationship between Blanton and Menendez quickly transcended the cocaine business in Los Angeles.

3:44 Menendez had opened the restaurant in East Los Angeles. And what's interesting about this now that I know all of this stuff, the whole time I was reading this with the restaurant piece of this, cause they were doing drugs out of there too. It hearkened me back to that show that we did about OJ Simpson and all of the waiters to include the one that Nicole was with that night.

4:15 running drugs out of all those restaurants. And again, this is all around the same time period. There's just so much in this book that wraps up all of our previous research that we've done, as you're going to find out. So Blanton's kind of disgruntled because he's giving part of the profits to the Contras.

4:47 and giving Menendez his piece, and he's still kind of living hand to mouth. Blanca Margarita Castano was a woman in San Francisco that Menendez had fallen in love with, and she eventually becomes his fifth wife. Blanca was a cousin of one of the top Sandinista officials.

5:21 By the name of Beardo R.C. Castano, one of Nicaraguan government's nine comandantes and one of the most hardline radicals among them. Bianca's apartment was near a thing called the Cow Palace, which was an old auditorium made famous by Jefferson Airplane. And it was used to store cocaine for Menendez.

5:53 Blanton said that he went up there all the time to pick up his stash. A frequent house guest of Menendez during that period was a guy by the name of John Lacombe, a San Franciscan who was friendly with the nephews, Jamie and Herrera. Lacombe said that he lived in Menendez's home for long periods of time in the early 80s.

6:22 Cocaine-fueled parties that went on for days. Menendez appeared totally unafraid of being arrested. Quote, there was a woman he was selling to and this woman would drive by his house, honk, and he would walk out to the street, hand her two kilos in broad daylight and give them to her. Unquote. No fear of being arrested. He dressed in fancy suits. He wore a toupee.

6:51 And he loves surrounding himself with women. A former girlfriend of one of his nephews, Gloria Lopez said that the nephews all drove around in flashy new cars. They would trade them in when they got tired of them. And it goes on to talk about how he, the nephews were able to pick up chicks all the time because they were fascinated with the cars because they were like,

7:22 you know, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and that type of thing. Lopez ends up having Jamie Menendez's baby. And she says that Jamie started off driving trucks for his uncle, Norwin, right out of high school. They were normally loaded with military uniforms. Isn't that interesting? And then he started moving cocaine for him.

7:55 This was a kid right out of high school with tons of money. Jamie's father, Jamie Sr., was also pressed into service for the cocaine, hauling money to Central America for his brother. And there's a quote here, it says, he really wasn't too much involved in drugs. He had a brake factory in Nicaragua before the revolution. He was a decent man, but...

8:28 He ends up getting arrested in 1984. He had been stopped at the border with $70,000 when he was taking money down to Nicaragua. And Jamie Menendez Sr. ends up getting murdered in 1990 in the offices of his money changing business called F-R-E-C-E-R-S-A in San Jose, Costa Rica.

9:01 That was a hazard of being a Menendez. So it's not surprising that Maritza Menendez and her children arrived in Los Angeles in 1982. Someone would be assigned to watch over them the entire time. Sometimes that was Danilo Blanton's job. In August of 82, Blanton and Mrs. Menendez set up a business together in Los Angeles. It was called JDM.

9:31 art word ink now see if any of this sounds familiar the name was an acronym for the owners a friend of menenez daniello and margarisa the company did silk screen printing and blanton said it was started by menenez to provide an income for his family but there were a lot of other motives behind it the company quickly

10:04 became part of the contra support network in los angeles and arde commander eden pastora said that he visited the company during a strip trip to la in 1982. it printed up t-shirts with his picture on it former pastira and carol prado

10:29 claimed that los angeles printing company connected to blanton was used to launder money from drug sales for the contra another former associate of blanton's a puerto rican man convicted of counterfeiting u.s currency believed that the company was the origin of the counterfeiting they printed fake 20 bills and provided operating cash for the fdn in the local area

10:59 A former associate produced Polaroid photographs that showed him at work in the office making FDN banners. A picture of Blanton was in the same office smiling with his arm around a bunch of laughing Hispanic men. The FDN flag was clearly displayed. Another associate claims of counterfeiting.

11:32 Eventually, there was a CIA cable filed in federal court. The CIA had information by 1984 that Norwin Menendez was involved in counterfeiting. So let's just tack that on to his laundry list of crimes. Both American dollars and Costa Rican colons. In 1986 interviews, Menendez said,

12:00 he allowed the FDN members to use his wife's Los Angeles factory as a meeting place. The Contra support organizations in San Francisco and L.A. grew much more active. Menendez's role with the FDN became much more public. Former FDN director Edgar Chamorro told the San Francisco Examiner in 1986 that he and another director, Frank Arana,

12:30 flew to San Francisco in October of 82 to select local leaders to support their committee. Menendez attended the organizational meeting standing quietly in the back of an auto body shop where the meeting was held. Everyone in the room knew that he was in charge. Menendez would also set up similar meetings in Los Angeles, providing refreshments and throwing a party afterwards.

13:01 He was the main contact in LA, Shimaro told the examiner. He was in charge of the organization of the Los Angeles meeting, the reception. He drove us to the place. He gave us the schedule for the day. He knew people and he was recommending names for leadership positions in the Los Angeles organization as well. Renato Pina Cabrera.

13:28 The FDN San Francisco representative told federal investigators in 1997 that he was present on many occasions when Menendez telephoned FDN commander Enrique Bermudez in Honduras. Menendez told Pena of Bermudez's request for such things like gun silencers, which Menendez sent to him.

13:55 crossbows, and other military equipment for the Contras. Menendez sometimes personally delivered the supplies to the Contra, Pena said. Other times he had contacts in Miami and Los Angeles that would get them to the Honduran guerrillas. Menendez would bring back military information, bulletins, and communique to put in their newsletters for Contra sympathizers. In an interview with the CIA,

14:26 Menendez said that between 1983 and 84, his primary role with the California sympathizers was to help recruit personnel for the movement. They were attempting to recruit fellow Nicaraguans in exile. The drug lord told the agency and internal investigators that he was not directly involved in the recruitment.

14:55 but they wanted people with specific skills like pilots, doctors. When asked by Gary Webb in 1996 where he got money to pay for the war materials, Menendez gave a slight smile. There was money available for the purchases, he said with a smile on his face. Menendez's associate, Rafael Corneo, said he attended some of the parties Menendez hosted at his home.

15:29 You can say what you want about the man, but his heart and soul was in the movement, he said. His priority, more than anything else, was the movement. Correos, whose father had been a sergeant in Somoza's National Guard, quote, It's kind of hard to be kicked out of your own country, and that's what his passion was. He was straight up pro-Somoza. Blanton's complaint, Blanton campaign, ah!

16:00 kept complaining about him not having any money. Now, what's weird is the next excerpt talks about Menendez allowing him just enough, and this is a repeat from what we have already heard, to pay the rent and blah, blah, blah. But among the Nicaraguan exile community, it was strongly suspected that Menendez was dealing cocaine for the Contras. And it was not...

16:30 unadmired. Somoza's former secretary, Juan Wong, W-O-N-G, one of the first Nicaraguan exiles to begin recruiting National Guard men to join the Contras, said he visited Menendez in San Francisco in 1983. Now ask yourself how a Chinese

17:02 heritage guy gets to Nicaragua. Well, I did a little research into Wong and you won't be surprised that his grandfather and father were from the area where Chiang Kai-shek came from. Just putting that out there.

17:30 He goes on, Wong goes on to say, it's true, it was widely spread around that he was involved in drugs. Wong graduated from the University of San Francisco and knew the Menendez family before the revolution. He continued, and I don't doubt that they wanted to raise money for the FDN. That's only natural. They were doing their patriotic duty. Bradley Brunin.

18:02 was Blanton's lawyer. He said that Blanton was one of several former Somoza supporters dealing cocaine in Los Angeles in 1980. He met Blanton while defending a middle-class Nicaraguan exile accused of drug trafficking. People were being arrested who had high government connections and high military connections in the Somoza regime.

18:30 who didn't have any particular lifestyle consistent with being cocaine dealers. But they were highly politicized individuals, Brunan said. And the only politics I was aware of that they were involved in was the Contras. Brunan went on to say that it was his understanding that the Contras, and I don't even know if they were known as that then, had...

19:01 No above the line funding. Everything was coming from the cocaine. We know that not to be true, but that's what the attorney said. Blanton was fairly closed mouth about his role. This is what the attorney was saying about his role with the Contras. I don't know the former particulars of other than that there was an atmosphere of the CIA.

19:29 and clandestine activities and so forth that surrounded him every time I met him. Brunin also went on to say he never was specific. I mean, I believe he was involved with the Contras. I don't think there's any doubt about that. Beyond that, I don't have any particulars. I didn't have a need to know, said the attorney. An air of mystery also surrounded another associate of

20:01 Blanton's. Shortly after going to work for Menendez, there was a map that would remain at Blanton's side for seven years. Considering his work history and the activities he was involved in at the time, his appearance in the Nicaraguan cocaine trafficking entourage is both strange and worrisome. He would give Blanton's drug ring a whole new sideline, weapons.

20:37 and sophisticated electronic equipment, the unmistakable arona of intelligence operations. Brad Bunsen met this guy, the lawyer, in 1986 when he showed up unannounced at the lawyer's office and began asking very detailed questions about Blanton's background. It was just like the hair on the back of my neck stood up. What does this guy want?

21:07 What's he doing here? Is he investigating Blanton? I never knew what to make of him. I mean, he covertly insinuated that he was CIA, at least if not a sworn member, at least affiliated with them. Brunin went on, I really didn't have much communication with the guy because he scared me. His name was Ronald J.

21:40 Lister, L-I-S-T-E-R. He was a Californian who began working as a cocaine dealer and money launderer for Blanton in late 81 or 82, just as the CIA was taking over all the funding for the FDN. The CIA had publicly denied any relationship to the man. This guy

22:08 is blanton's handler just to put it bluntly before launching his life in crime danielle daniello blanton's faithful sidekick ronald lister had been a police officer and one of one sort or another for nearly 15 years listen to this this is just mind-boggling he started out as a military police officer in the u.s army

22:38 and then on active duty, and then he transfers to the reserve. While he's in the army reserve, he joins, oh, hold on. Okay, this is so crazy. So supposedly, even before he joined the army and enlisted, he had a degree in political science and was trained in processing prisoners.

23:11 So he's in the Army. He's a cop. Then he's in the Army Reserve as a cop assigned to a local reserve unit. He was in Vietnam when he was on active duty, likely where he was recruited to be in the CIA. He got excellent fitness reports. Lister was hired as an officer in a local L.A. police department called Maywood.

23:47 And it was a very, very small police department, but it got him a gun and it got him a badge. He was also a reserve deputy in the sheriff's department. So let me just put this in a nutshell. You got a guy in the military who's also a police officer, who's also a deputy sheriff. So now, and he's also a CIA officer. So he covers all of the...

24:20 coordination stepping stones to control everything. He's got an N everywhere. Multiple badges. We'll just put it that way. Then, you're not even going to believe this. After his enlistment in the Army Reserve is up, guess what he joins? He joins the Coast Guard. You know, the guys charged with interdicting drugs? Yeah, that's where he goes. He's a reserve.

24:56 port security officer at san pedro california and for those of you who don't know i was stationed at los angeles and san pedro on the bay there at the port is base housing for los angeles air force base i didn't ever live in the base housing but everybody that lived in the base housing knew and this was in the 80s right around this same time

25:26 There were drugs swimming everywhere in San Pedro, everywhere. You could not turn a corner without seeing people involved in drug transactions. It's not the best part of town, which for some reason always seems to be the case with base housing, but whatever. It was awful. Now the base was not there. The base was like.

25:53 probably a 45 minute drive away from there was up by lax um this this story is just too crazy in late 1973 he found a home in laguna beach police department which patrols orange county suburb which is a very rich area of los angeles so guess what his job is he's going to be a detective in the burglary

26:26 area. You know, the one that if you had like drugs and stuff like that, or you had a drug dealer that broke in to steal somebody's shit. Yeah, he's the detective. Lieutenant Danielle Adams said Lister was a veteran by the time she arrived in burglary. Her recollection of him was that he was always very successful, tenacious. His former chief, Neil Purcell, who

26:57 was on the hiring board that gave Lister the job remembers him very differently. You hear lots of things about Ron Lister, Purcell said. The man, in my opinion, was a lying, conniving, manipulative person who likes to play with people's minds. Sounds just like the typical CIA officer. He's very evasive and loves living on the edge. He's the biggest bullshitter that has ever been placed on earth, unquote.

27:28 towards the end of lister's 12-year stint in the police department he was traveling in some pretty fast company when you know like police officers normally do when he was here that silly son of a gun was in with what do you call themselves the royal highnesses from iran meaning the shah

27:53 Quote, sporting Rolex watches for himself and his wife, getting wined and dined by these people until finally they, the Iranians, were asked to leave the country. Anything. He knew names and organizations. He was very bright. As far as intelligence, very smart. It was the one point on which Adams and Purcell agreed.

28:21 Adams would go on to say, don't ever underestimate him. He's very, very bright. Both Adams and Purcell said Lister became involved in private security. Imagine that. On the side while he was still a policeman in 1979. He would quit the Laguna Police Department in 1980 to pursue that vocation full time. He was in the alarm business. You just got to be kidding me here.

28:53 And what he, he started off in the alarm business and he had some muckety mucks from Arab countries that wanted his quote unquote alarm business expertise. It was getting pretty elaborate. And that's when he left the police department. I know there was a lot of involvement and a lot of travel while he was here.

29:22 A few weeks before he resigned, corporate records show Lister Incorporated a company called Pyramid International Security Consultants. It was based in Newport Beach. What Pyramid was doing between 1980 and 81 is not known. But Mr. Lister stated that it was around this time that he first met Blanton through a Beverly Hills business connection.

29:52 Blanton introduced him to Menendez and that he provided physical security for both men. And he was always paid in cash, you know, because that's perfectly normal. Soon after Lister paired up with Blanton and Menendez, his security company began doing business overseas.

30:14 Blanton told the Justice Department interviewers that he and Menendez entered into an informal partnership with Lister for the purpose of selling weapons abroad, specifically in El Salvador to the death squads. Blanton said the plan was for Lister, Blanton, and Menendez to get their share of the profits in weapons, which they would be giving to the Contras. Blanton's attorney, Brad Brunson.

30:44 Describe Lister as one of these guys who would boast about having bugging capability, would boast about wiretapping people. You could get any information anytime, he would say. He even talked about uplinking to satellites. And that's very interesting, knowing what our satellite capability was back in the 80s.

31:12 because that's the place that I worked was Space Systems Division. That was the satellite people. There was not a lot of civilians that had any satellite capability at all access because most of the satellites were military or CIA. That's very interesting. Christopher Moore, a former Reserve Laguna police officer who met Lister in 1979, said Lister hired him as an office manager in 82.

31:43 While Moore was working his way through law school, I think I was actually an officer in the company. Ron had put my name down as a treasurer on some papers that he was using to incorporate the company. Moore confirmed that Lister had extensive business dealings in Central America, especially in El Salvador. Lister explained his travels.

32:11 there to more as involving gun running and helping the Contras supposedly on behalf of the U.S. government, you know, like the CIA. I remember the longest conversation with him. I'm protected. You're working for the government. Don't worry about anything. I'm protected. I'm protected. I don't know if that was true.

32:35 But I do know that we stopped worrying about domestic security jobs and started concentrating only on foreign ones. During the early 1980s, when Lister began doing business there, El Salvador was a vicious civil war zone and murderous political repression. A tenacious revolutionary guerrilla group

33:01 had been running circles around the country's corrupt and inefficient military. The rebels' fight was being assisted by the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, who have admitted supplying to them. The Reagan administration was concerned about what was happening in El Salvador, and they were more concerned about El Salvador than Nicaragua, because they were running ops on Nicaragua out of El Salvador.

33:33 When Reagan advisors considered, they already considered Nicaragua lost. One of Reagan's top policy objectives in 81 and 82 was to keep that from happening in El Salvador. And keep in mind, Felix Rodriguez was in El Salvador attacking the Sandinistas. The administration pushed hard for increased military and economic support for the El Salvadorian government.

34:05 particularly after a January 1982 rebel attack on a main military airport in El Salvador, demolishing multiple aircraft. Indeed, what came to be known years later as the Reagan Doctrine may have been born in El Salvador in 1982. Former Reagan State Department official Robert Kagan wrote in 1996,

34:35 Halting Sandinista arm shipments to El Salvador was the official reason CIA Director William Casey told Congress when he informed lawmakers the Reagan decision in late 1981 to turn the CIA loose in Nicaragua. The Contras were being trained to police the borders to make sure no Sandinista arms got out of the country.

35:06 That's what William Casey said. Like many of the things the CIA said about the Contras, the explanation was a lie. It was a smokescreen to hide the agency's true agenda, which was to run a full-scale covert war against Sandinistas. The Reagan administration found the excuse in El Salvador and used their aid program

35:36 in order to sell Congress, who already had cut off the Contras. Frustrated by the inability to crush the guerrillas in El Salvador, despite overwhelming firepower advantage, elements of the El Salvadorian government was striking back at the rebels and murdering thousands of their supporters with their death squads. Because remember, that's what they do.

36:05 They go into neighborhoods and they butcher entire villages to demoralize the rebels, kind of like they do here with school shootings. Right-wing quasi-military posses would snatch suspected rebel sympathizers off the street and leave their mutilated bodies on the outskirts of town a few days later.

36:35 At the height of the campaign, residents of the capital city San Salvador would wake up to find 40 new bodies every morning. The Salvadoran government officially denied any connection with the death squads, but they were running them. The denials rang hollow in Washington, even among some of Reagan's staff members. Under the guise, listen to this, under the guise of anti-communism,

37:04 The death squads terrorized the entire country, murdering nuns, teachers, labor organizers, political opponents, and thousands of other civilians. That was in Oliver North's book. North wrote that it was clear most of the death squad's activity was the responsibility of the CIA-supported RENA power party and its leader.

37:34 Roberto Dias Buen. He actually ran all the death squads. He was reported running the death squads lead to the assassination of San Salvador's Archbishop Oscar Romero, allegedly by hitman from the FDN's predecessor, the Legion of September 15. Remember?

38:04 the guys that were the National Guard in Nicaragua that moved to Guatemala, then they moved them to El Salvador. And that's where Felix Rodriguez was training them all to do this. The official whose men were committing some of the worst abuses was a $90,000 a year CIA asset by the name of Colonel Nicholas Carranza.

38:35 head of the government's feared Treasury Police. According to one account, CIA Director Casey met personally with Carranza in the summer of 1983 and told him to knock it off or the CIA would stop paying him. In phone conversations with Lister, Christopher Moore learned that his boss was supposedly doing security consulting for the government of El Salvador.

39:04 In June of 82, Lister asked Moore to fly down and babysit a government contract for a few days while Lister returned to the U.S. to take care of some business. Moore agreed to do that. Accompanying him on the trip was a man who introduced himself as a Salvadorian consul in Los Angeles.

39:30 Since Moore didn't speak Spanish, the man served as his guide and interpreter. They flew down to this air base that the French were building. Kind of like NATO, Gladio shit going on. I had to take pictures of it, Moore said. It was his impression that Pyramid was bidding on a contract to provide security for the base.

40:00 When he returned to El Salvador's capital, he settled into a downtown Ramada Inn. Then he and the Salvadoran consul attended a series of meetings with none other than Roberto de Ajabuzan, the guy running the show, and the death squads. That was probably the highlight of my life at that point, chuckled Moore.

40:31 now an attorney in Los Angeles. There I was, a reserve police officer who'd only been in the country for a couple of days, and I was sitting in an office downtown across the desk from the guy running the desk squads. He had a gun laying on the top of his desk and had the filing cabinets against the windows in case somebody came by to shoot him. At another meeting, Moore and the D. Oz Bruzen was joined.

41:00 by ray prendez the newly elected head of the salvadorian assembly and powerful figure to the christian democrat party nothing like having a christian democrat party um forming in a country with death squads but they had the christian democrat party that represented the nazis in germany too so i guess there's not much difference prendez was on friendly terms

41:31 with the death squad leader, Moore said, and both appeared to have some role in the award of the security contract. Lister, in an interview with police, said that Moore was a good kid who had gone down to El Salvador to take pictures of a poorly planned and constructed security work at the port in El Salvador. Moore was unsure if Lister's company ever got the contract for the air base.

41:59 He left Lister's employment in 1983, soon after his boss began dealing in heavy weapons. Ron was an arms dealer and was buying semi-automatic, the ones the bad guys use, called MAC-10s. He also had semi-automatic Uzis, and he had gotten involved in selling something called RAW, R-A-W.

42:28 which was a rifled, fired hand grenade. He was into lots of things, the attorney said. Moore wasn't exaggerating. Between 1983 and 86, the FBI opened five separate investigations on Lister, all of which dealt with the allegations of trafficking illegal weapons and high-tech devices to foreign governments.

42:54 In September 83, Lister and Blanton's company, Pyramid International, came under FBI scrutiny for the Neutrality Act, which allegedly involved the sale of weapons to El Salvador and the loan of money from Saudi Arabia to the Salvadoran government. Lister was also alleged to be attempting to sell arms to several other countries.

43:18 Considering the fact that the Saudi government was heavily involved in financing covert operations for the Reagan administration during the 80s, it is perhaps not surprising that no further information was ever developed by the FBI. The Justice Department offered no reason why they abandoned the investigation.

43:45 Lister admits his company was dealing guns in El Salvador. He told the Justice Department investigators that Blanton and Menendez were ones that opened the doors down there. They had many connections in El Salvador from drug trafficking business. Lister told Blanton, sold Blanton numerous machine pistols because he actually had a manufacturing company that made very specialized

44:15 um guns in um southern california when blanton told him he was blanton told um lister that he was sending him to the contrast anything i gave him i was told was for the purpose of the contrast lister said an fbi informant told the justice department investigators that norwin menenez

44:41 had spoken of obtaining night vision goggles from Lister in 1982, which the drug lord planned to sell to the Salvadoran government. Menendez intended to use the proceeds of the night vision goggles to aid the Contras. In October 1982, Pyramid International made a security proposal to the Salvadoran defense minister, General Jose Gualmero Garcia.

45:11 a man linked to one human rights organization to death squads activity. From a human rights organization, he was linked to the death squads and the slaughter of hundreds of peasants in a village. Pyramid's proposal, which Los Angeles police found in a 1986 drug raid, was written in Spanish and had confidential stamped on the front of it, you know, like it's an actual CIA document.

45:42 Or a government document? Yeah, just like that. Because drug dealers don't have a confidential stamp, just in case you guys don't know. It was entitled, Technical Proposal for an Urgent Project to Implement an Integral Security System for the Defense Ministry and a Major General of the Armed Forces of the Republic of El Salvador.

46:10 That's that Aubreyson guy. It was a thick report and described Pyramid as a unique consulting firm dedicated to the maintenance of freedom, independence, and free enterprise, especially drugs and weapons. The company only served clients with political orientation, the document said. That political orientation was spelled out in no uncertain terms.

46:39 Pyramid International Security Consultants would, quote, assist the new government in its goals to combat the tyrannical forces of the left side, promoted and assisted by the current government of Nicaragua, Cuba, and the Soviet Union. So, you know, the rebels that don't want the death squads, they're just going to be labeled communists.

47:05 Lister's company outlined a variety of services that it could provide for about $200,000. It included bodyguard and armed escort services for the Salvadoran public officials, including their president and top military leaders, protecting sensitive installations from sabotage and installing electronic technology, including

47:34 radio sensors and explosive detectors at key military and industrial installations. Lister later explained the document was a proposal to the current government of El Salvador to implement the program to assist them with security operations. But one of Lister's associates at the time, a San Diego arms manufacturer, said Pyramid's security proposal

48:05 was actually just a cover for another operation, a covert one directed by the CIA, which would make sense why they have a CIA confidential document outlining the program. I'm just assuming it's a CIA document. The company's real mission in El Salvador, he said, was to set up a weapons manufacturing facility to supply guns to the Contras in next door Honduras.

48:36 In a series of interviews with investigative reporters, Nick Hsu of the LA Weekly said in 1996 and 97, arms maker Timothy LaFrance described Pyramid International as a private vendor the CIA used for things they couldn't do. LaFrance, whose handiwork is so highly regarded,

49:04 that he has created custom-made weapons for Rambo movies and Miami Vice. He said he accompanied Lister to El Salvador at least twice and was involved as a weapons specialist in helping to set up facilities to make pistols for the Contras. Among a series of nameless biographies attached to Pyramid's proposal to this

49:33 Salvadorian government, one employee is identified as a specialist in the design and manufacturing of unique weapons. Lister's former office manager, Chris Moore, confirmed that one of Lister's friends, and I can't recall his name, was an arms maker in San Diego, talking, of course, about LaFrance. LaFrance, who makes

50:00 and modifies exotic automatic weapons for military and law enforcement agencies in his San Diego manufacturing facility, was convinced Lister's consulting company had friends in high places. Why, do you ask? Because when he applied in Pyramid's name for a State Department permit to take high-powered weapons out of the United States, it came back.

50:29 in two days he said it normally took three months he went down to central america with two giant boxes full of machine guns and ammunition for the guns definitely the cia la france told xiao that their cover story for the trip was that they were there to provide security armor proofing for vehicles limos and homes my end was the weapons and how to make

51:00 a three-car stop if you're shot at. But the real purpose, LaFrance said, was to set up an operation in El Salvador that would allow us to get around U.S. laws to supply guns to the Contras. It was much easier to build the weapons down there because then you didn't have to worry with the State Department and border control and everything else to get them out of the United States. According to

51:27 La France, the pyramid team moved into mass transit centers run by the military in downtown San Salvador. That's where they made the weapons. You could have 50 guys working in a machine shop and nobody would know it. After the finished guns were transported to the military airstrip, they were sent to Contra camps in Honduras.

51:55 We made almost all of our drops by helicopter buzzing the treetops. While LaFrance's story is difficult to corroborate, some independent documentation, I mean, it's not difficult for us because this is a repeat of every other story we've ever told, but we're going to go with Gary Webb because he didn't have available all the information we know today.

52:25 Some independent documentation suggests that he was definitely the man to see in the early 80s if one needed to build a weapon plant. In May of 1983, LaFrance was solicited by a, this just gets more bizarre, tiny Cabazan Indian tribe in Southern California to build an arms factory on their desolate tumbleweed.

52:54 Riverside County Reservation. We need to know how from an organization engaged in the manufacturing of armaments of various types, all consisting of technology not currently found in the marketplace. Now, why would a bunch of Indians need to know how to make state-of-the-art military-grade weapons? Well, because it really isn't the Indians asking. They're being paid to ask.

53:26 In a letter, another letter spelled out how precise the Indians were looking to build, quote, a nine millimeter machine pistol, an assault rifle with laser sighting, a long distance sniper rifle, a portable rocket system, night vision scopes.

53:53 and battlefield communication systems that cannot be detected with current technology. Now, why again would a tribe of Indians in California need that? Because this is where we link what eventually we learn again from Danny Casolaro.

54:25 In the San Francisco Chronicle, the Cabanzan were working on a series of international military and security projects. Yeah, the little Indian tribe that seemed to be lifted out of the pages of a spy novel because it's not really the Indians doing it. The tribal administrator was a man who claimed to have a long history with.

54:56 the cia he was helping out the agency he had actually helped the agency is illini still here no he actually helped the agency with their destabilization program in chile that's crazy he had paired the tribe up with a company called wackenhut international the same wackenhut that comes up in the mina story

55:33 and the gun running and all that, that Wackenhut. And this is the location that they were using. It was a security firm described as being, quote unquote, led by former CIA, FBI, NSA, Department of Defense, and federal law enforcement officers. Wackenhut is a front for the CIA and others. So you have a chief.

56:05 of an Indian tribe that actually was involved in the overthrow of the CIA's overthrow of the Chilean government. He's allowing the CIA to use his tribal land to set up weapons manufacturing for the CIA. I'm the guys of Wacken Head.

56:27 Wackenhut was very active in El Salvador during the Contra War, providing employees to protect U.S. Embassy and other installations and doing things that you wouldn't want your mother to know about. One Wackenhut employee told Spy Magazine in 1992, apparently the company was using the Indian Reservation's tax-exempt status and its freedom from federal oversight to gain a competitive advantage. That's bullshit. It was just the CIA. Don't give a shit.

56:59 Freelance investigative reporter Danny Casolaro was looking into Wackenhut Project as part of a larger conspiracy investigation at the exact same time they killed him. He had told friends that he was convinced that spies, armed merchants, and others were using the reservation as a low-profile site on which to develop weapons for Third World armies.

57:29 including the Contras. The Chronicle stated that the Contra leader, Eden Pastora, had visited the firing range on the reservation for a weapons demonstration in 1981, a claim Pastora confirmed and then would later deny.

57:56 In early 1994, the U.S. Justice Department announced that it was opening a nationwide investigation into Casolaro's suspicious death, a probe ordered by the then Associate Attorney General Webb Hubble. Not long after, Hubble then pled guilty to crimes he'd committed while being an Arkansas lawyer and resigned from the Justice Department. So, again.

58:24 All of this is tied to the drug operation coming into MENA. So we're going to investigate Danny Casolaro's, who's exposing all of this, murder by the guy involved in the entire racket. Yeah, sounds about right. What resulted from the Casolaro investigation, or even whether it ever went forward, was never made public.

58:56 Anybody that got tapped to do that job was going to get set up. So don't bother doing it. We'll just let it die. Hubble's interest in the journalist's death was definitely more than a passing curiosity. Hubble had his own connections to a company that was making weapons for the Contras. Tim LaFrance's story about setting up the arms factory with

59:26 Ronald Lister and El Salvador's bear striking similarities to one told by Terry Reed, a former Air Force intelligence officer and FBI informant who became involved with the CIA's Contra project in the 80s. Reed, a pilot and a machine tool expert, said he was initially recruited to train the Contra pilots with clandestine airstrips.

59:56 arkansas later he claims he was asked to help the cia set up secret weapon parts facilities in arkansas and then later mexico see the pattern here in his memoir memoirs called compromised reed wrote that he scouted locations and provided the corporate shell for cia agents

1:00:24 working with the Contras to set up and run a sophisticated machine tool shop in Mexico in 1985 in order to keep the supply of untraceable weapon parts flowing to the Contras during the time when Congress had cut off the rebels. Now, again, that's fast and furious, guys. He claimed CIA operatives were shipping cocaine through the machine tool company he helped the agency set up.

1:00:54 in Guadalajara. And what's interesting about Guadalajara? Well, Guadalajara came up as, well, it comes up all the time when you're looking at Mexico Gladio programs. That is used, it's used now to bring chemicals in from China for processing fentanyl. But Guadalajara comes up a lot in Operation Gladio.

1:01:23 So when we were doing the WACL and they were setting up the Americas part of that, Guadalajara is where a lot of the meetings occurred. Again, it comes up often. So one of the companies Reed worked with in Arkansas was a manufacturer of parking meters called Park on Meter Inc. And that's one directly tied to the Clintons, by the way.

1:01:53 It was located in a town called Russellville. Reed claimed that the company was secretly manufacturing M16 rifles as a subcontractor on CIA weapons projects for the Contras. The Washington Post sent a reporter to Arkansas in 94 to investigate Reed's story.

1:02:15 The resultant article was a snide and ham-handed attempt to portray Reed as a crackpot conspiracy theorist. It nevertheless confirmed all of the basic elements of his story. So you can tell it was written by the CIA. Some of the key relationships described in the book did exactly exist in the same form that Reed had portrayed them. The Washington Post grudgingly admitted,

1:02:45 that Ivor Johnson's arm company near Little Rock, which the book portrays as being at the center of the gun manufacturing effort, did ship loads of weapons to Nicaragua through a Mexican distributor, according to the former plant engineer, J.A. Matico. But Matico described it in the book as part of a CIA plan.

1:03:14 He said the rifles were M1s, not M16s. The Post found the parking meter company Reed named did make some gun parts for Ivor Johnson. Another relationship characterized in the book as part of the CIA's weapons scheme. But the Post scoffed at...

1:03:39 that the parts firing pins were not for M16 bolts. So again, it's like find the little I that you don't dot or the little T that you forgot to cross and then ridicule the entire article while you're acknowledging the major sensational piece of it is there's weapons being manufactured in Arkansas and they're taking weapons back on the planes. They're bringing drugs into the United States on. Crazy.

1:04:10 Park on Meter's former secretary and corporate lawyer was Webb Hubble. So Webb Hubble is going to investigate Danny Casolaro's death when, in all likelihood, Webb Hubble was in on the cover-up of Danny Casolaro's murder because he would have been telling on Webb Hubble. Crazy.

1:04:41 Hubble admitted to a Time magazine reporter that Park on Meter was making rocket launchers. So basically everything that Gary Webb said was true. Everything that Danny Casolaro said was true. And Reed Parker in his book says all of this. Excuse me.

1:05:13 What's his name? Parker Reed. Says all of this, but every time somebody mentions it, like in the Washington Post, they pretend like it's not true. All right. I'm going to stop right there because it's a good place to stop. Crazy, crazy story. There's a whole bunch more, by the way. A whole bunch more. Go ahead, SR. I can't hear you. Let me take you down and bring you back up.

1:06:06 Can you talk now? It's still not showing a speaker thing by your name. Can you guys hear him? It might be me. Who do we have? Renee, let me invite you to speak and let me see if I can hear you. Martha, I'm going to send you an invite to talk. You can hear me, Renee? Okay. Okay, SR, your speaker thing is open. Try to speak now. No, I still can't hear you. Renee, try to talk.

1:07:05 No, I can't hear you. All right. SR, I'm going to put you up as co-host and I'll go out. It's probably me. All right. I'll be right back. All right. Let's try this again. SR 71. Go ahead. I can hear you now. They're sabotaging us. We're talking about the CIA. I can hear you. Renee, did you have anything?

1:08:22 this chapter because you brought out uh brought up um el salvador a lot is it looks like in the 80s that is when the ms-13 gang was also uh created in la you think this is all connected probably 100 so let me tell you how this works because this is a pattern and and i'm going to talk about it probably tonight with jamaica on um alpha show since they just picked up in a um ice just picked up uh um

1:08:53 uh jamaican drug lord here in the united states so any place that the cia goes and does these operations they treat they trade people train people to be death squad members that's part of the whole thing right the school of america's um teach them how to torture teach them how to kill people um teach them how to kidnap people blah blah blah and

1:09:19 They're doing drugs that are selling drugs to fund all of this stuff because that's the whole Gladio model. You sell drugs to finance covert operations. So in every single time, after Vietnam with the Hmong that were involved in the opium production in Laos and were the killer squads over there, we, the CIA, not we, the CIA brings.

1:09:49 Because once they have to leave, they can't leave. Well, they could and they have in some cases, but they don't leave the best of the killers in the field. They become the quote unquote refugees. And so you have entire communities among people who were just killing innocent civilians in Laos brought into the United States. We did it with Afghanistan in our lifetime.

1:10:19 So this is a pattern. So all of these death squads that were going on in El Salvador are exported when the CIA no longer has a need for them down there, either because they're kicked out of the country or whatever. The same thing happened in Colombia. You have the like with.

1:10:46 the Madeline cartel, where they were actually putting their trained drug runners in and taking out, brutally assassinating the Cuban exiles in Miami and New York to take over the drug markets for what's his face. So yes, this is a pattern. It is my opinion that the MS-13

1:11:14 first get started by the CIA's involvement in El Salvador. They just export paramilitary people and put a few tattoos on them and call them MS-13. SR-71, go ahead. Let's see if my speaker works now. Yes, it works fine. Thank you. As it is, and thank everybody here for attending today, I find it rather telling.

1:11:51 that they were willing to give up everything about the arms dealing and let people know what's going on with the arms dealing but weren't going to give up that cocaine that's the biggest well um they didn't actually give up the arms deals because the book unfortunately jumps back and forth they're so

1:12:15 All of the arms deal stuff gets revealed in 1990 when people started revealing it, like Gary Webb and Danny Casolaro. During the time, none of it was revealed. They didn't want to give that up. And what we're listening to when we listen, when I'm talking about so-and-so told an investigator, that is never in the 80s. This is all happening in the 80s. It was not until the 90s.

1:12:45 When Gary Webb started researching and Danny Casolaro started doing his research, that they had to at least start asking questions and pretend like they were doing an investigation. As we find out thus far in this book and generally true in all of the other things, the investigations go nowhere.

1:13:09 Right in the middle of an investigation, if there was a legitimate one, Congress decides to have a hearing and they put on a show for a week and they make no referrals for prosecution or anything else. And everybody goes on about their life. So thus far in the book, the illicit arms things are being talked about in like the 1990s, reflecting back on the 80s when it was going on.

1:13:39 So we haven't had anybody accountable yet. So I don't think they're willing to give it up until it gets exposed later on. Thank you, Colonel. I appreciate that. Yeah. The other thing is looking at Landon. Yeah. Everything this guy was involved with, he winds up going to work as an informant for the DDA. Well, of course he does. That's how they protect.

1:14:13 but that's how they protect them so if you're one of the cia's domestic um criminals like menendez obviously is um all they do is um they arrest you and then they drop the charges and bring you in as an informant that's that's literally a form of protection that

1:14:40 and that's why what's interesting to me and i have not come across anyone because obviously it's not public information the cia and the fbi are locked at the hip so obviously the um cia asset let's say you're a drug dealer menenez let's just take him for example he's a cia protected guy

1:15:10 As was this Lister guy. So if you were to ever get busted doing something bad, there's some liaison between the CIA and the FBI. And of course, we found a few embedded CIA officers in the FBI during our research. There's an arrangement with the FBI that they may charge him, but.

1:15:41 He then, it's more for show, they will do a plea bargain, no jail, as long as you become an informant. That's what they tried to do to Randy Weaver, right? They got him to buy that shotgun that was a little illegal. And then they bribed him with, you can either be arrested or you can become our informant. And he told him to pay on sand.

1:16:11 And you see what happened to him. They killed his family members. So it is not in your best health interest to say no when you have been working for the CIA and you get arrested. Does that make sense? The other thing I found interesting is, oh, gee, we're going to use Indian reservations to pay the chief of the reservation.

1:16:45 To do all the stuff we normally do in national parks and everywhere else that we set aside for ourselves. Yeah. They may have moved on to national parks after they got busted at the Indian Reservation. I don't know that, but I do find it very interesting that that Indian chief or whatever you want to call him was obviously on the CIA's payroll.

1:17:16 if he was involved in the overthrow of uh chile i i found that completely fascinating that was a new tidbit for me um because i've read a lot about the um i've read like three books on the arkansas connections the korea gate um the park on meter the um fund that cut uh clinton i don't know remember exactly what it was like a um seed fund

1:17:48 um that they were using for businesses to like bring businesses into the area but it was actually being funneled to all the clinton cronies i've read all about that i've read about the two kids that got killed on the plane tracks and if you read anything about mina you're gonna come across wackenhut

1:18:09 And I read about Wackenhut using that Indian reservation for the arms because it's a very well-known fact that the aircrafts coming in had drugs on them. And the aircraft going out back to pick up more drugs had weapons on them. That's a very well-known fact if you've read anything about that whole operation. And I knew about the Indian reservation because, by the way, that Indian reservation is also where they were.

1:18:37 The CIA was modifying the promise software that they were going to use to track money launderers of competition and hide their own money laundering. That Indian reservation comes up in that story, too. So I'm very well aware of that reservation. I had never heard that.

1:19:00 The guy running that Indian reservation had been involved in the overthrow of Allende. So that's the reason why we do these books. Because at the end of the day, we're going to have them all figured out. Then we might be in trouble. Renee, go ahead. Yeah, talking about this Indian reservation thing, it really makes a light bulb kind of go off in your head because...

1:19:29 It seems that they, from hundreds of years, they infiltrate the indigenous lands, whether it be like the World Wildlife Fund or they just, they sneak in because I guess there are certain laws that are different on Indian reservations, right? That they can get away with their bad stuff. Well, there definitely is here.

1:19:49 There also is in Brazil where Nelson Rockefeller was going in there with the missionaries and using the guise of the missionaries to find the resources. And then they wipe out entire indigenous populations to compromise the land. Oh, look, they're all dead. So now we have the government can do something with the land here. Sell it to me. I'll give you top dollar for the land. And then, oh, my God, look, we found oil on the land when they knew the oil was there because of the embedded.

1:20:18 spies in the missionary work. So yes, that is another pattern that we've developed over the course of this research. They did it throughout all of Africa too, with the World Wildlife Fund, as you pointed out, when we did that book. Guru, how are you today? Yeah, well, thanks. Trying to listen just kept throwing me out, so I just asked for a speaker so I can actually listen and learn. But yeah, I'm pretty well, thanks.

1:20:52 yeah we got our australian prime minister a bit off topic but over there uh spruiking it out to the un about australia's great uh you know internet censorship that's coming up and yeah so it's uh quite quite extraordinary times at the moment colonel that's uh very good but i'll let you get back on topic i just could not stay without a mic darling so thank you yeah no problem yeah this this whole space has been under attack since i started it so um

1:21:19 They kicked me out twice trying to start it and then obviously mess my speaker up so that I couldn't hear or the listening, however that works. So I couldn't even hear you guys talk. So very interesting. So that's when you know that you're learning the good stuff is when they start attacking you. That's my big claim to fame.

1:21:43 Yeah, no, you too, right, Colonel? And look, your audience should be so much bigger, you know what I mean? It really should be. This is, as I've said before, you know, not blowing hot air up your skirt, mate. This is a topic that goes back to how this all started, you know what I mean, after World War II and their little sneaky charades that they pulled back then. So, yeah, it's vital information that needs to get out. And, you know, we do this. We cover things, you know, not that you do, Colonel, but you've got that same...

1:22:11 game plan of what's going on here but we do the same with our new show you know we'll go over old stuff why because you've got new people coming in and new people sometimes don't understand that australia was stolen in 1973 and did it so yes you know this yeah this continual you know ruckus has got to go on we've just got to keep exposing keep putting the information out there but gee the way trump spoke at the um yesterday i'm pretty confident that um

1:22:39 We may see a final curtain someday. Yeah, he scares the hell out of them. I was actually momentarily shocked at the brazenness of the UN to turn his escalator off and mess with his teleprompter. And the best way to shove the middle finger.

1:23:06 at people like that is exactly what he did. Talk twice as long and dare them to say anything. I mean, that's just overt sabotage. So. That was incredible. I just thought it was brilliant, you know, and then you see him, you know, you see the difference with the African prime minister there or whatever he was when they shut his mic down, you know what I mean, for sticking the slipper into Israel.

1:23:33 But yeah, they wouldn't dare do that to Trump. So yeah, interesting times, Colonel. And the beauty of, as you pointed out, in knowing history is there's so many people that I talk to on a daily basis that when you just tell them something like the CIA was involved in drug running, they look at you and their mouth drops. How do you know that?

1:24:03 They couldn't possibly do that. They work for the U.S. government. And when you understand what they're capable of doing and what they've already documentedly done, if that's even a word, it's so much easier to look at what's happening today and make sense of all of it. Because some people can't fathom one evil act.

1:24:33 let alone be able to take three of them and be able to say, these all three have some similarities that we've seen in the past. And when you see, like we always say, when you see the patterns repeating themselves, it goes back to one source. And that's the intelligence community, primarily the CIA, but not just the CIA.

1:25:02 um in collusion with the fbi and so when you look at something like the assassination of charlie kirk and you see the cover stories that is trotted out there anyone who understands how these operations work needs to understand and i'm not implicating cash because as we've said repeatedly

1:25:29 Cash is not the one that is actually handling the video, the ballistics. That's all being left to people in the belly of the beast. And until those people are gotten rid of, we are still going to have to muddle through the next period of time. The same thing is going on in the military right now.

1:25:57 There's booby traps everywhere. And they were planted a very long time ago to ensure when what they view as a hostile person gets put in a position that they can sabotage them. And we are watching that play out in real time. The beauty of our group.

1:26:25 is that we know what's going on because we now have a frame of reference that's very different from everyone else. Andy, did you want to? I totally agree with you, Colonel. Yeah, we do have a, you know, I think we've been living in a matrix for a long time. You know, I sort of put a post out this morning, you know, like.

1:26:50 you know, is this, we're going to get the real world back or we just been living in a matrix, you know, for a long, long time. And I think it's an industrial complex and that has really got their hands on our lives for way, way, way too long. I say that. And I use the analogy of a hologram. It's like literally that you can put your hand out and try to touch something only to find out it's not really there.

1:27:14 The CIA is not really. I'm not saying that there isn't a body there, but it's not what it looks like. And of course, the rowdy, rowdy Piper glass thing where you have the glasses on and you're seeing one thing and you put the glasses up and it's something completely different. That is the world we live in. Nothing is as it appears. Andy, did you want to say something?

1:27:45 Barely. You're very quiet. Yeah, it's better. I have. I have and heard the Indian guy show up and said he's now in charge.

1:28:34 usually it's the other way around where the indians get infiltrated by deep state and get you know manipulated but it looks like here it's um opposite happening so it's sort of sort of good news i think hopefully you know it throws a loop for this uh or is for no reason no reason but uh yeah the words have to go around and um and the government both sides the government in charge the liberals and and the opposition they're not doing anything about

1:29:10 you know the craziness happening so what's your take on that though well i i agree with you um i think it's so for those of you who don't know um the lady that's in canada had the 400 ostriches the canadian government was going to come slaughter them and virtually at the last minute um the indians um the indigenous people of canada showed up and basically kind of

1:29:41 um annexed the property and said told the government officials you're not allowed on our land and the the hideous um crimes both in america and in canada that has occurred for the indigenous people um you know you heard all about the ex exposure of some of the um goings on in canada um over the last couple of years

1:30:09 um with some of the atrocious things that were done to them i absolutely love the fact that they rose up and um in in opposition to this mass slaughter and took matters into their own hands and finally used their authority

1:30:33 um in a really positive way because it has always been the government kind of kind of um squashing them that they bowed up and said yeah no i'm in charge get the hell out of here yeah it's a dystopian what happened um like they were i guess the mom and the daughter there were the ones who feeding the ostriches and um and they were trying to arrest them on their own land you know getting in the way

1:31:06 Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it when people, go ahead. No, if they were taken away, then who would feed the ostriches and stuff? There was a ton of people there witnessing and trying to, you know. Yeah. A big outpouring, a lot of support online. And I love it when the little guy wins. Anyways, thanks so much. Sure. Keep in touch. Sure.

1:31:40 So, anyway, it's 5.30. Today is Wednesday, so I have dinner. Go ahead, Guru. Yeah, I just want to just, yeah, comment on what Andy said just very quickly, and I'll let you go and have some tucker, some manjari. Yeah, you know, we've got a, you know, you talk about the natives and how we've got something, you know, they've done something that's actually standing up.

1:32:07 You know, we've got the same thing in Australia. We have the Aborigines, if that's what you want to call them, right? Right. And they have a lot of power. But the problem is we have a $33 billion a year fund to keep the black corporates in power. So this is why we're struggling. So $33 billion, listen to me, guys, billion dollars, right, into the Aboriginals. Okay, million, sorry, not billion, million.

1:32:36 Every year, bang, bang, bang, into the corporate side of it. You know what I mean? And that was years ago. So it's an astronomical amount of money. But what we're seeing now is all these corporates are getting the lights exposed on them and they're all coming down. So there is room now for the real Indigenous to move in. And I think we're going to see this in many countries that have the Indigenous aspect of their heritage. You know what I mean? It is moving forward.

1:33:05 Yeah, that's awesome. All right. Well, we're going to call it a day here and we will finish this chapter tomorrow because it gets better, guys. It gets better. This is such a crazy book. But anyway, I will be on the Alpha Warrior show tonight at 930 East Coast time. We're going to talk a little bit about some of this stuff. There's a lot more detail tonight of the episode one.

1:33:36 of the tucker carlson um um video on 9 11 and what questions still need to be answered i'm going to go into detail on um i just kind of surfacely addressed it yesterday we're going to go into some detail um on the statements that at the beginning of the video the fbi guy makes and then

1:34:04 the statements that Caracal makes at the end with some examples some newspaper articles and such about why that information is either wrong or there's a lot more to it and so we're going to do that and I am going to talk a little bit one of the upcoming things in a couple of chapters

1:34:33 we have it'll be talked about here in a couple of chapters is the Jamaican role in all of this. I had saw earlier today the I don't remember if it's the sentencing or the arrest of one of the major kingpin drug people from Jamaica. And because I just read it in this book as well.

1:34:59 I did a little digging around and we're going to talk a little bit about that at the end because it definitely shows another pattern. And Renee, you'll definitely want to listen to that because it is the pattern we were just talking about is the people that come into the United States after a coup led by the CIA and the training of these operatives and what they do in America afterwards.

1:35:29 But tonight we're going to talk about the Jamaicans. So go ahead, Renee. Yeah, just for future, something to put in your mental file. I think it would be super amazing for you and Alpha one day to kind of do a series on the gangs and whether it's like the Black Panthers or MS-13 or the motorcycle gangs or whatever in the United States and how they were all created and then we can have it.

1:35:59 to share with everybody to show that it's really not an organic thing because people just think, you know, some guys in the neighborhood were down on their luck and started this gang, but it's not. It's not great. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be great for y'all. You guys would be incredible as something like that. Yeah. That's a great idea. I'll talk to alpha about it before the show. All right, guys, take care. Um, I'll see you tomorrow at four o'clock. Oh, and we're hamster tomorrow at noon.

1:36:28 Um, we will be continuing and it's a mystery topic cause he won't tell me what it is, but, um, it will be related to secret societies, um, tomorrow at noon, four, four o'clock show, um, and then nine 30 tonight. So take care of everyone. All right. Got to run. Got to go have dinner with the Cates brothers. Take care.

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Norwin Menendez trafficked Nicaragua book_quoted ▶ 1:40

“He had already, in 1981, distributed 900 kilos, nearly a ton, of cocaine through San Francisco. His business was thriving. Menendez Network in Los Angeles was still struggling. So he had a couple of d…”

Oscar Danilo Blandón laundered_money_for Norwin Menendez book_quoted ▶ 2:44

“keeping the books, helping the relative of Menendez run the restaurant, that type of thing, collecting cocaine debts. So Menendez used him to pay the cocaine suppliers off the ships coming in from Col…”

Oscar Danilo Blandón did_business_with Norwin Menendez book_quoted ▶ 3:18

“And during the interview, he says, yeah, I keep the books. So he had a different bookkeeper up in San Francisco. So we were running the Los Angeles operation. And he says, yes, that's exactly how it w…”

Blanca Margarita Castano married Norwin Menendez book_quoted ▶ 4:47

“and giving Menendez his piece, and he's still kind of living hand to mouth. Blanca Margarita Castano was a woman in San Francisco that Menendez had fallen in love with, and she eventually becomes his …”

Jamie Menendez died_in Costa Rica book_quoted ▶ 8:28

“He ends up getting arrested in 1984. He had been stopped at the border with $70,000 when he was taking money down to Nicaragua. And Jamie Menendez Sr. ends up getting murdered in 1990 in the offices o…”

JDM Artwork, Inc. front_for Contras book_quoted ▶ 10:04

“became part of the contra support network in los angeles and arde commander eden pastora said that he visited the company during a strip trip to la in 1982. it printed up t-shirts with his picture on …”

Oscar Danilo Blandón laundered_money_for Contras book_quoted ▶ 10:29

“claimed that los angeles printing company connected to blanton was used to launder money from drug sales for the contra another former associate of blanton's a puerto rican man convicted of counterfei…”

Norwin Menendez supplied_arms_to Contras book_quoted ▶ 13:28

“The FDN San Francisco representative told federal investigators in 1997 that he was present on many occasions when Menendez telephoned FDN commander Enrique Bermudez in Honduras. Menendez told Pena of…”

Juan Wong studied_at San Francisco book_quoted ▶ 17:30

“He goes on, Wong goes on to say, it's true, it was widely spread around that he was involved in drugs. Wong graduated from the University of San Francisco and knew the Menendez family before the revol…”

CIA funded Contras book_quoted ▶ 21:40

“Lister, L-I-S-T-E-R. He was a Californian who began working as a cocaine dealer and money launderer for Blanton in late 81 or 82, just as the CIA was taking over all the funding for the FDN. The CIA h…”

Ron Lister member_of U.S. Army book_quoted ▶ 22:08

“is blanton's handler just to put it bluntly before launching his life in crime danielle daniello blanton's faithful sidekick ronald lister had been a police officer and one of one sort or another for …”

Ron Lister recruited CIA speculative ▶ 23:11

“So he's in the Army. He's a cop. Then he's in the Army Reserve as a cop assigned to a local reserve unit. He was in Vietnam when he was on active duty, likely where he was recruited to be in the CIA. …”

Ron Lister member_of Maywood Police Department book_quoted ▶ 23:11

Ron Lister member_of U.S. Coast Guard book_quoted ▶ 24:20

“coordination stepping stones to control everything. He's got an N everywhere. Multiple badges. We'll just put it that way. Then, you're not even going to believe this. After his enlistment in the Army…”

Ron Lister member_of Laguna Beach Police Department book_quoted ▶ 25:53

“probably a 45 minute drive away from there was up by lax um this this story is just too crazy in late 1973 he found a home in laguna beach police department which patrols orange county suburb which is…”

Ron Lister did_business_with Iran book_quoted ▶ 27:28

“towards the end of lister's 12-year stint in the police department he was traveling in some pretty fast company when you know like police officers normally do when he was here that silly son of a gun …”

Ron Lister founded Pyramid International book_quoted ▶ 29:22

“A few weeks before he resigned, corporate records show Lister Incorporated a company called Pyramid International Security Consultants. It was based in Newport Beach. What Pyramid was doing between 19…”

Ron Lister supplied_arms_to Contras book_quoted ▶ 32:11

“there to more as involving gun running and helping the Contras supposedly on behalf of the U.S. government, you know, like the CIA. I remember the longest conversation with him. I'm protected. You're …”

Sandinistas supplied_arms_to El Salvador book_quoted ▶ 33:01

“had been running circles around the country's corrupt and inefficient military. The rebels' fight was being assisted by the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, who have admitted supplying to them. The Reagan ad…”

Reagan administration supplied_arms_to El Salvador book_quoted ▶ 33:33

“When Reagan advisors considered, they already considered Nicaragua lost. One of Reagan's top policy objectives in 81 and 82 was to keep that from happening in El Salvador. And keep in mind, Felix Rodr…”

William Casey ordered_assassination_of Sandinistas book_quoted ▶ 34:35

“Halting Sandinista arm shipments to El Salvador was the official reason CIA Director William Casey told Congress when he informed lawmakers the Reagan decision in late 1981 to turn the CIA loose in Ni…”

Roberto D'Aubuisson headed RENAM book_quoted ▶ 37:04

“The death squads terrorized the entire country, murdering nuns, teachers, labor organizers, political opponents, and thousands of other civilians. That was in Oliver North's book. North wrote that it …”

Oliver North funded RENAM book_quoted ▶ 37:04

Roberto D'Aubuisson ordered_assassination_of Óscar Romero host_asserted ▶ 37:34

“Roberto Dias Buen. He actually ran all the death squads. He was reported running the death squads lead to the assassination of San Salvador's Archbishop Oscar Romero, allegedly by hitman from the FDN'…”

Legion of September 15 carried_out_attack Óscar Romero host_asserted ▶ 37:34

Nicholas Carranza member_of Treasury Police host_asserted ▶ 38:04

“the guys that were the National Guard in Nicaragua that moved to Guatemala, then they moved them to El Salvador. And that's where Felix Rodriguez was training them all to do this. The official whose m…”

Felix Rodriguez trained Contras host_asserted ▶ 38:04

William Casey paid Nicholas Carranza host_asserted ▶ 38:35

“head of the government's feared Treasury Police. According to one account, CIA Director Casey met personally with Carranza in the summer of 1983 and told him to knock it off or the CIA would stop payi…”

Ron Lister employed Christopher Moore host_asserted ▶ 39:04

“In June of 82, Lister asked Moore to fly down and babysit a government contract for a few days while Lister returned to the U.S. to take care of some business. Moore agreed to do that. Accompanying hi…”

Pyramid International operated_in El Salvador host_asserted ▶ 39:30

“Since Moore didn't speak Spanish, the man served as his guide and interpreter. They flew down to this air base that the French were building. Kind of like NATO, Gladio shit going on. I had to take pic…”

Christopher Moore did_business_with Roberto D'Aubuisson host_asserted ▶ 40:00

“When he returned to El Salvador's capital, he settled into a downtown Ramada Inn. Then he and the Salvadoran consul attended a series of meetings with none other than Roberto de Ajabuzan, the guy runn…”

José Napoleón Duarte relationship_with Roberto D'Aubuisson host_asserted ▶ 41:00

“by ray prendez the newly elected head of the salvadorian assembly and powerful figure to the christian democrat party nothing like having a christian democrat party um forming in a country with death …”

José Napoleón Duarte member_of Christian Democratic Union host_asserted ▶ 41:00

Ron Lister trafficked Contras host_asserted ▶ 41:59

“He left Lister's employment in 1983, soon after his boss began dealing in heavy weapons. Ron was an arms dealer and was buying semi-automatic, the ones the bad guys use, called MAC-10s. He also had se…”

Pyramid International supplied_arms_to El Salvador documented ▶ 42:54

“In September 83, Lister and Blanton's company, Pyramid International, came under FBI scrutiny for the Neutrality Act, which allegedly involved the sale of weapons to El Salvador and the loan of money …”

Saudi Arabia financed_via El Salvador documented ▶ 42:54

Ron Lister supplied_arms_to Blanton Winfield host_asserted ▶ 43:45

“Lister admits his company was dealing guns in El Salvador. He told the Justice Department investigators that Blanton and Menendez were ones that opened the doors down there. They had many connections …”

Norwin Menendez acquired Ron Lister documented ▶ 44:15

“um guns in um southern california when blanton told him he was blanton told um lister that he was sending him to the contrast anything i gave him i was told was for the purpose of the contrast lister …”

Norwin Menendez funded Contras host_asserted ▶ 44:41

“had spoken of obtaining night vision goggles from Lister in 1982, which the drug lord planned to sell to the Salvadoran government. Menendez intended to use the proceeds of the night vision goggles to…”

Pyramid International proposed Jose Guillermo Garcia documented ▶ 44:41

Jose Guillermo Garcia relationship_with RENAM host_asserted ▶ 45:11

“a man linked to one human rights organization to death squads activity. From a human rights organization, he was linked to the death squads and the slaughter of hundreds of peasants in a village. Pyra…”

Pyramid International front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 48:05

“was actually just a cover for another operation, a covert one directed by the CIA, which would make sense why they have a CIA confidential document outlining the program. I'm just assuming it's a CIA …”

Timothy LaFrance supplied_arms_to Contras host_asserted ▶ 48:36

“In a series of interviews with investigative reporters, Nick Hsu of the LA Weekly said in 1996 and 97, arms maker Timothy LaFrance described Pyramid International as a private vendor the CIA used for …”

Timothy LaFrance did_business_with Ron Lister host_asserted ▶ 49:04

“that he has created custom-made weapons for Rambo movies and Miami Vice. He said he accompanied Lister to El Salvador at least twice and was involved as a weapons specialist in helping to set up facil…”

Pyramid International operated_in El Salvador host_asserted ▶ 51:27

“La France, the pyramid team moved into mass transit centers run by the military in downtown San Salvador. That's where they made the weapons. You could have 50 guys working in a machine shop and nobod…”

Pyramid International supplied_arms_to Contras host_asserted ▶ 51:27

Cabazon Band of Mission Indians operated_in Riverside County host_asserted ▶ 52:25

“Some independent documentation suggests that he was definitely the man to see in the early 80s if one needed to build a weapon plant. In May of 1983, LaFrance was solicited by a, this just gets more b…”

Cabazon Band of Mission Indians did_business_with Wackenhut host_asserted ▶ 54:56

“the cia he was helping out the agency he had actually helped the agency is illini still here no he actually helped the agency with their destabilization program in chile that's crazy he had paired the…”

Wackenhut front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 55:33

“and the gun running and all that, that Wackenhut. And this is the location that they were using. It was a security firm described as being, quote unquote, led by former CIA, FBI, NSA, Department of De…”

Eden Pastora visited Cabazon Band of Mission Indians documented ▶ 57:29

“including the Contras. The Chronicle stated that the Contra leader, Eden Pastora, had visited the firing range on the reservation for a weapons demonstration in 1981, a claim Pastora confirmed and the…”

Webb Hubbell investigated Danny Casolaro documented ▶ 57:56

“In early 1994, the U.S. Justice Department announced that it was opening a nationwide investigation into Casolaro's suspicious death, a probe ordered by the then Associate Attorney General Webb Hubble…”

Terry Reed trained Contras book_quoted ▶ 59:26

“Ronald Lister and El Salvador's bear striking similarities to one told by Terry Reed, a former Air Force intelligence officer and FBI informant who became involved with the CIA's Contra project in the…”

Terry Reed did_business_with CIA book_quoted ▶ 59:56

“arkansas later he claims he was asked to help the cia set up secret weapon parts facilities in arkansas and then later mexico see the pattern here in his memoir memoirs called compromised reed wrote t…”

Park On Meter Inc. supplied_arms_to Contras book_quoted ▶ 1:01:53

“It was located in a town called Russellville. Reed claimed that the company was secretly manufacturing M16 rifles as a subcontractor on CIA weapons projects for the Contras. The Washington Post sent a…”

Park On Meter Inc. located_in Russellville book_quoted ▶ 1:01:53

Ivor Johnson supplied_arms_to Nicaragua documented ▶ 1:02:45

“that Ivor Johnson's arm company near Little Rock, which the book portrays as being at the center of the gun manufacturing effort, did ship loads of weapons to Nicaragua through a Mexican distributor, …”

Park On Meter Inc. did_business_with Ivor Johnson documented ▶ 1:03:14

“He said the rifles were M1s, not M16s. The Post found the parking meter company Reed named did make some gun parts for Ivor Johnson. Another relationship characterized in the book as part of the CIA's…”

Webb Hubbell member_of Park On Meter Inc. host_asserted ▶ 1:04:10

“Park on Meter's former secretary and corporate lawyer was Webb Hubble. So Webb Hubble is going to investigate Danny Casolaro's death when, in all likelihood, Webb Hubble was in on the cover-up of Dann…”

Park On Meter Inc. supplied_arms_to Contras documented ▶ 1:04:41

“Hubble admitted to a Time magazine reporter that Park on Meter was making rocket launchers. So basically everything that Gary Webb said was true. Everything that Danny Casolaro said was true. And Reed…”

CIA trained Hmong people host_asserted ▶ 1:09:19

“They're doing drugs that are selling drugs to fund all of this stuff because that's the whole Gladio model. You sell drugs to finance covert operations. So in every single time, after Vietnam with the…”

Medellin Cartel carried_out_attack Cuba host_asserted ▶ 1:10:46

“the Madeline cartel, where they were actually putting their trained drug runners in and taking out, brutally assassinating the Cuban exiles in Miami and New York to take over the drug markets for what…”

CIA trained MS-13 host_asserted ▶ 1:11:14

“first get started by the CIA's involvement in El Salvador. They just export paramilitary people and put a few tattoos on them and call them MS-13. SR-71, go ahead. Let's see if my speaker works now. Y…”

Nelson Rockefeller operated_in Brazil host_asserted ▶ 1:19:49

“There also is in Brazil where Nelson Rockefeller was going in there with the missionaries and using the guise of the missionaries to find the resources. And then they wipe out entire indigenous popula…”

World Wildlife Fund operated_in Brazil host_asserted ▶ 1:20:18

“spies in the missionary work. So yes, that is another pattern that we've developed over the course of this research. They did it throughout all of Africa too, with the World Wildlife Fund, as you poin…”