Operation Gladio-Vietnam and the Catholic Church

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0:00 Okay, everybody, we're waiting for Bridget and Cousin It and possibly Stellar, whoever gets here first, so we can start this session, which I think is going to blow your socks off. We've had some pretty interesting revelations.

0:31 But I think this one's probably going to break the bank. So if you guys, while we're waiting, oh, there's Bridget. If you guys can repost this space out so that we can get as many people as possible in the space. And that's going to help us.

1:05 Spread the word. And Bridget, is Cousin Nick coming? Do you know? She should be here. She got a worker. Okay, I can't hear you. You're banding. Bridget, you're banding really bad. Okay, there you're better. No, I heard you. You came in at the end. And Jamie, James, just to let you know that we don't do microphones until the end.

1:55 Just because people drop in and out and it's very distracting when we're trying to do the presentation. So hold on just until we get done with the actual presentation. And hopefully your dad was able to join us and we'll call you first when we get to the end.

2:22 Everybody, please repost the space out. Invite all of your followers to come join us because I definitely think this is going to be one of our better, more informative. Not that every one of them hasn't provided some crazy information, but I do think just because a lot of us lived through the Vietnam era. And I mean, I certainly did. It shaped pretty much my entire.

2:53 first 15 years of my career, because for those of you who've not spent any time in the military, I joined as basically at the end of Vietnam. I initially joined in 1979, and it was kind of like the aftermath. Everybody that I served with that was like my boss, the NCOs, had all been there at some point.

3:22 All of our professional military education had drummed into our head all of the quote unquote lessons learned, which we learned zero lessons, but we were led to believe that we did and how we were never going to do that again, blah, blah, blah. And it allowed for the higher in rank you got.

3:46 The realization that we learned absolutely nothing and that the senior leadership was basically hypocrites because they said that we had learned all of these things. But as we went into Afghanistan, as we went into the first desert storm, as we went into the second desert storm, you realized unequivocally that they learned absolutely nothing. And many of the same.

4:13 quote-unquote mistakes were made again. So then you were left with the impression, obviously, that they weren't mistakes at all. That's just the way we do business. Okay, so I'm going to start with the potential why. We like to look at... Whoa, Bridget, you might want to mute that. We like to look at the...

4:45 reasons why the international syndicate is involved in these countries. So I'm going to read you a real quick article that talks about this very reason. Despite the groundbreaking meeting in the UN in September of 1990 with James Baker and the Vietnamese foreign minister,

5:15 Nugent co-back, the United States continued to deny normal diplomatic relationships to Vietnam in maintaining its trade embargo and once again stamped its veto on the Vietnamese entry into the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. It was making it impossible for Vietnam to recover. And I mean, this is in 1990. They were still doing this.

5:40 The Washington insists that Vietnam contributes to a political settlement in Cambodia, which we'll get into next. And the hypocrisy of this is unimaginable because it was us that destroyed Cambodia as well. And yet we were holding that over the Vietnamese.

6:04 Who benefits? Great Britain is another party that appears to be benefiting from the U.S. embargo. While Japan had obeyed U.S. economic strictures, sharing only 0.03% of its total foreign investment in Vietnam, Great Britain is getting in on the ground floor of the Vietnamese rich oil fields offshore.

6:30 Britain accounted for 30% of its foreign investment in Vietnam in 1989, following by France 21% and the Netherlands almost 20%. Dutch Royal Shell, a total of France and British Petroleum, are now searching for oil in the southern part of Vietnam off the continental shelf. This pattern of investment in Vietnam is drawing loud complaints by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

6:57 All Vietnamese oil, 1.5 million tons in 1989, is exported since Vietnam has no oil refineries. And the reason why is because all of their capital that they could get to actually build out that industry is being blocked by the United States. And if you then go in the next step further and you look at where this...

7:27 refinery capacity is going, you see why that is being blocked. Vietnamese own oil consumption is expected to increase fivefold by the year 2000. But unless the embargo is lifted, prospects look very dim. And then it goes on to talk about how the Vietnamese economy has been hampered by

7:54 In the 1990s, the Soviet Union informed Hanoi that it would expect a sharp reduction in aid from Moscow in 91 because, of course, it fell apart. Vietnamese received 100 percent of its fuel and cotton and 80 percent of its fertilizer from the Soviet Union. Now Vietnam obtains only 60 to 70 percent of that from there. And they were having problems with the electrical build out of the grid.

8:24 Over the past 18 months, the Vietnamese government has carried on austere programs designed to rein in inflation, which had been as high as 700% in 1988. The result has been a steep decline in industry, basically just economically destroying the country. The industrial deflation has resulted in mass unemployment.

8:53 You go and look at what their major resource is that we would be interested in, and of course you find rubber. And Michelin, which is a French-affiliated company, is largely behind this, which makes sense from the perspective that it was France's colony for a good long time.

9:24 It is like these people gang up on these countries. And while we decided to be the boogeyman as far as Vietnam, because it's rationally makes sense from this perspective that, you know, we're the quote unquote loser, but so is France. But France has continued to exploiting it or continuing to exploit it. So I'm going to focus on a very controversial.

9:51 part of the Vietnam story that is never talked about. And that is the Catholic Church's role in Vietnam, because it goes back quite a long time. And I'm going to read something to you. The Catholic Church in Vietnam is part of a worldwide Catholic Church under bishops that are ran out of Rome, of course. Vietnam...

10:20 has the fifth largest Catholic population in Asia after the Philippines, India, China, and Indonesia. There are about 7 million Catholics in Vietnam, which represents about 7% of its population. The first Catholic missionaries visited Vietnam from Portugal and Spain in the 16th century. The earliest missions did not bring impressive results. After the arrival of the Jesuits,

10:50 In the first decades of the 17th century, did Christianity begin to establish its position within the local population in both Tonkin area and Cochin, China? These, which are areas, these missionaries were mainly Italian, Portuguese, and Japanese. Two priests, Francisco Buzami and Diogo Varhalo,

11:20 established the first Catholic community in a place called Hoian, H-O-I-A-N, in 1615. Another Catholic official, Alexandre Rhodes, converted more than 6,000 people in Tonkin to the Catholic religion. In the 17th century, Jesuit missionaries included, and it lists a whole bunch of them.

11:52 since the late 17th century, French missionaries of an entity called the Foreign Mission Society. And I'm going to come back to that in a second because it's very important. Foreign Missions Society. I'd never even heard of it. And Spanish missionaries of the Dominican order were gradually taking roles of evangelizing people in Vietnam. The French missionary.

12:23 And I'm going to call this guy Pignot. His name is Pignot de Behan, B-E-H-A-I-N-E. But his first name, I think his last name, because the way they do this is weird. His first name is Pierre Joseph George Pignot.

12:48 And it's P-I-G-N-E-A-U. Played a key role in the Vietnamese history towards the end of the 18th century. He had come to South Vietnam to evangelize. In 1777, the Tay Son brothers killed the ruling Nguyen Lords. And that's N-G-U-Y-E-N. And you're going to hear that name a lot because it's like a tribe of Vietnam.

13:18 It was literally a kingdom. And Nugent Ahn, A-N-H, was the most senior member of that family to have survived. He fled into the Mekong Delta region in the far south where he met Pignu. Pignu was Nugent Ahn's confidant. Pignu reportedly hoped

13:46 that by playing a substantial role in helping Ahn attain victory, that he would be in a position to gain important concessions for the Catholic Church in Vietnam and helping its expansion into Southeast Asia, the Catholic Church. At one stage in the Civil War, Nguyen were in trouble, so Py Ngu

14:14 was dispatched to seek French aid. He had been able to recruit a band of French volunteers. Pignou and other missionaries acted as business agents, purchasing munitions and military supplies. So you have a Catholic church official as an arms dealer. Pignou also served as a military advisor and de facto foreign minister until his death in 1799. In 1794,

14:43 Pignot took part in the campaigns. He organized defense and basically served as a military advisor. By 1802, Nguyen Nguyen Anh conquered all of Vietnam and declared himself Emperor Gia Long, G-I-A-L-O-N-G. So now he's the royalty of all of Vietnam. And I put some...

15:12 Bridget in the signal folder for Asia. And I do want you guys to see the one map that was 1650, where it actually shows color wise where the different kingdoms were and where the Nugent kingdom was, was basically in the central part. But when they were overthrown, they settled down much farther South just so that you can understand.

15:42 how they have geographically been a very separate country, tribe-wise. And these tribes, for hundreds and hundreds of years, stuck to themselves. They were not a mobile entity. And this becomes very important in some information that we're going to share later on in the presentation.

16:07 So it was not unusual to find families that had spent 500 years literally in the same hut, not to mention the same town or area or whatever. They were not a mobile society like a lot of the Bedouin tribes that traveled around. These guys were not like that at all. So back to the story. So basically.

16:39 The emperor's new kingdom incorporated the Catholic Church throughout the entire area of Vietnam, north, south, everywhere. And they divided it up into east, west, central and south. That was kind of the whole. So there's four basic archdiocese. There were technically three.

17:05 because at one point they combined the central and the south. So, Dia Long, the new emperor, tolerated the Catholic faith in his French allies and permitted missionary activity because he viewed them as a benefactor. The missionary activities were dominated by the Spanish in Tonkin area and the French in the central and southern regions. At the time of his death, there were six European bishops in Vietnam.

17:36 And the population of Christians were estimated at 300,000 in Tonkin and 60,000 in the southern area. Okay, so then what happens is the peaceful coexistence of Catholicism alongside Confucian system in Vietnam was not going to last past Dia Long's.

18:08 The crown prince of his son had already died, and it was assumed that his son would succeed him as emperor. But in 1816, Nugent Fogdam, P-H-U-K-D-A-M,

18:39 the son of Geelong's second wife, was appointed instead. So, Geelong chose him for his strong character and his deeply conservative aversion to Westerners, whereas Khan's lineage had all converted to Catholicism, his own, of his first wife. And so, he did not want...

19:09 Catholicism overrunning the traditional religion of Vietnam, he wanted to hold that in check. So he was perpetuating the Confucian system within Vietnam while still being open to Catholicism. So a Vietnam general by the name of Duet, D-U-Y-E-T, had helped Nguyen Anh

19:39 who became the emperor, put down the famous Thay Son rebellion in unifying Vietnam. So he had a lot of prestige throughout Vietnam. Duet and many of his Southern associates tended to be favorable to Christianity because that's where all their weapons came from.

20:07 They supported the installation of the current emperor's Catholic line. So you see already there's going to be some tension here. And as a result, Duet was highly regarded within the Catholic community as well. Duet was more concerned with the military rather than the social needs of the Vietnamese people.

20:38 Geelong was aware that Catholic clergy were opposed to the installation, and the guy's name that was the heir apparent now is Ming Meng, M-A-N-G. So Ming Meng began to place restrictions on Catholicism, and he enacted edicts that basically thwarted the expansion of Catholicism.

21:07 the Catholic religion. He began putting restrictions. He saw the Catholics as sources of division within the country. And Duet, the general, was protecting the Vietnamese Catholics and converts. And so Ming-Ming issued an imperial edict and wanted them all

21:30 to have to come to the imperial city and report to him, which would thwart their evangelizing the rest of the country. Duet disobeyed that order and told all the Catholics, don't go there, because if you do, he's probably going to kill you. And so eventually...

21:55 Ming-Ming didn't confront him because he was held in such high esteem because it was his military might that basically united the country to begin with. And so Ming-Ming waited until he died, and then he basically desecrated him. In his tomb, he executed 16 of his immediate family. I mean, he just raised the whole family.

22:25 trying to eliminate any of his lineage for surviving. And then kind of, obviously there's some big controversies throughout all of this. So Duet's son, his name is Khoi, K-H-O-I. And he declared himself.

22:51 in favor of restoring the original line of the royal family. And this, of course, was in support of Catholicism. And in 1833, rebels took over the southern part of Vietnam. And that was the beginning of a basic separation of Vietnam.

23:21 And so the Catholics under Coy in the Catholic Church kind of start coalescing in the southern part of Vietnam in violation of the edicts of the current emperor of Vietnam. And it basically begins a rebellion, and that rebellion lasted about three years.

23:51 And there was a French missionary, Father Joseph Machard, of the French Foreign Mission Society, another one of those things that we'll look at, was captured in the seas for supporting Khoi and asked help from the Siamese army. And by the way, Siamese is currently Thailand. So those are the guys next door.

24:22 And they're doing this through the Catholic Church, by the way. They are advocating rebellion using the Catholic Church hierarchy. They are sending missionaries back and forth to these other countries, soliciting help in the form of basically a Catholic rebellion in a Confucius country led by basically the emperor. And so.

24:51 Father Machard eventually is executed for his role in the rebellion. Failure of this revolt ended up disastrous for the Christians of Vietnam. New restrictions were put on them. New demands were made. There were all kinds of anti-Catholic edicts that were issued. Six other missionaries were executed.

25:14 As a result of this, the villages of Christians were destroyed. Now, the reason why I go through this is because it's very important. Because if you go back and you look at some of the historical Western version of what I just told you, is that the emperor in Vietnam was basically

25:42 attacking Christianity and the Christian religion and persecuting people for their Christian belief when that's not what happened at all. The Catholic Church orchestrated a, I mean, it was sort of a coup, but not by much.

26:05 So they inserted themselves into military operations in order to affect the outcome of multiple different aspects throughout about a hundred year period of time. And because they didn't like who the emperor decided was going to succeed him, they interfered in that chain of secession, which they had no business in at all.

26:34 As a church, none. And so we have to be very careful today in what we are told happens in the name of religion inside of countries we don't live in. That's why understanding this history is so important, because we can be manipulated. And just because somebody that is a professed Christian gets assassinated in a country,

27:05 doesn't mean that country is attacking the Christian religion. It could be, in fact, that that person's not acting in a very Christian way at all and are selling arms to factions within a country that then works out well for them for about 50 years, and then all of a sudden it doesn't when somebody gets appointed the next emperor who doesn't really care for them.

27:33 I want people to understand that, that the entire sectioning off geographically of Vietnam started with this. This is how it started. The congregation of Catholics in the southern part of Vietnam began when the Catholic Church inserted itself by providing weapons to factions within Vietnam.

28:03 hundreds of years before the Vietnam War or the French colonized it or any of those other things. So keep that in mind. We're going to look at first the Paris Foreign Mission Society, because again, I think it's relevant to the conversation. It is a Catholic missionary organization. It is not a religious institution, but an organization of secular priests.

28:31 and lay persons that are dedicated to missionary work in foreign lands. The Society of Foreign Missions of Paris was established in 1658. It provided missionary and missionary institution that was not dependent on the control of traditional missionary powers.

29:02 of the colonialist or imperialist of Spain and Portugal. So this was kind of France's entree into missionary work outside of their participation under the edicts of Spain and Portugal as they began developing their imperial colonies and all this other stuff. They used...

29:31 this entity to do it. In the 19th century, local persecutions of missionary priests were often a pretext, this is very important, for French military intervention. So they would send in these priests under the guise of a Paris foreign mission society. And then,

30:02 They would get involved in military operations, and when they were assassinated or murdered because the host country didn't want them interfering in their military operations, the French government then used their murder to intervene and capture the country as a colony. All very important to the conversation. In China, the murder of the priest,

30:37 Augusta Chapadeline, C-H-A-P-D-E-L-A-I-N-E, became the cause folly for the French involvement in the Second Opium War in 1856. And keep in mind, because we just talked about that yesterday, this is the same, you know, opium war in China that the Brits...

31:02 were involved in. They were involved in two, the first and the second. And so the murder of this priest was the impetus for French to get involved with UK in the second one. Also in Korea, which we just talked about, persecutions were used to justify the 1866 French campaign against Korea. You see, they're sacrificing religious officials.

31:32 In order to get into countries and basically create colonies or their flag on the ground of some like in China, they established in the Second Opium War, they got Shanghai, which then they created an international city in Shanghai that they all hung out in and created all kinds of mischief for China.

32:02 It was also used, Shanghai was used as the bridge to Chiang Kai-shek and basically supporting, they said they were neutral, but they were not. And they got involved in establishing Chiang Kai-shek in,

32:33 As kind of the nationalist fighting Mal. When in fact what he was doing was doing a bunch of drugs. Bridget if you'll let Cousin It know. I put her down and brought her back up. And for some reason she's now gone. I don't know where she went. So if you can just text me when she comes back in. Yep. I'm working on it right now. All right. I'll bring her back up. Okay. So. This is the whole.

33:06 for a lot of what is going on that we see that doesn't make any sense. This is what's going on behind the scenes. Okay. The Paris Foreign Mission Society still remains an active institution today and it is still doing this stuff today that they've done for the last several hundred years. Okay. So hold on. Let me bring her back up here. All right. So.

33:37 That explains, and these Catholic officials are the Jesuits and Dominicans for the most part that are involved in these initiatives. So you can read more about that if you want.

33:58 It is multi hundreds of years worth of examples of them getting themselves involved in military operations and doing all kinds of crap and then being victimized by the country. And then France as a country uses the victimization of these sacrificial lambs to declare military operations.

34:28 Okay, so I've kind of set the backdrop for where we're at. Now, I also have to show you what was manifesting itself in 1954, because let's put this in reference. 1950 to 1953, we're in Korea, and we already talked about all of the shenanigans there and how

34:56 Operation Gladio played itself out. They were installing stay-behind units. They were doing all of the stuff that we've looked at all over the world, and nothing was as it seems. So the very next year, in 1954, you still have what had been the remnants of the OSS and now the CIA all throughout Asia, okay?

35:27 And they're working with these people. So you have a thing called Operation Passage to Freedom. Now, if I zoom out to the 30,000 foot look, we already know by this time that Chiang Kai-shek is doing his opium thing in China. He gets pushed back into Burma. And so the entire area, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia.

35:57 Thailand is the Golden Triangle, okay? This is where all the opium's being harvested, processed, whatever. So the impetus, as Paul Helliwell has told us repeatedly, is to use opium to pay for all of the paramilitary that they're going to be operating all over the world doing, cooing governments and all this black ops stuff. So you have to have...

36:27 turmoil you have to have the strategy of tension in order to have internal fighting in these countries in order to be able to operate there and control these drug networks because you can't do that in a government that in a country that's stable because they won't let you so you create you go in there and you create all kinds of shit and throw the country into chaos

36:57 to include a war just so that you can control this network. So that's where Operation Passage to Freedom comes in. It was a term used by the U.S. Navy to describe a propaganda effort and the assistance in transporting civilians from the north to the south.

37:28 By the time they get done, over a million people will be relocated using propaganda from the North to the South. Now, I just explained to you how the country was formed and the fact that you have primarily a large population of Catholics, not all exclusive though, in the South.

37:57 And in the North, you have, now this is post-World War II, where we've already told Ho Chi Minh to go pound sand. They're already calling him a communist, even though he wanted a direct, a constitution that mirrored ours. And so we've already targeted him for this campaign of chaos.

38:24 We're going to go in and we're going to propagandize the primarily focused at the Catholics that were in the north in these archdiocese through the Catholic Church. We're going to go in there and tell them we're going to drop leaflets, all kinds of shit. We're going to tell them that the the U.S. is going to basically decimate the north and you've got to get the hell out of here if you're going to live.

38:53 And again, these people have lived in these same villages. They never leave their village. Very little mobilization if you're not in one of the roving military bands or whatever. These families had been in these villages for hundreds of years. So they psychologically traumatized these people so much that they were able to convince them to get on airplanes and ships and move to the south part of Vietnam.

39:24 And over a million of these people did this because they were scared to death they were going to die because the Catholic infrastructure in the North had told them that's what was going to happen to them. So, it says, in the wake of the French defeat at Battle of Denbenfu,

39:53 The Geneva Accords of 1954 decided the fate of the French Indochina after the eight year war that had been waged. But so and again, we talked about this for anybody that's new yesterday in that after World War Two, the.

40:16 China was given the northern sector of Vietnam to push the Japanese out, and the U.S. was given the southern part of the country to push the Japanese out, and then we were all supposed to go home, and they were supposed to have a unified election. We didn't allow that to happen.

40:37 What then we basically we supplied Ho Chi Minh with all of the weapons and everything prior to the end of the war. I mean, he had his own OSI OSS agents assigned to him. We learned all about that yesterday. If you didn't listen to that, I highly encourage you to go back and do that. So this is, you know, we turn our back after the war on Ho Chi Minh and we support France coming back in and recolonizing.

41:07 the entire country of Vietnam. They're now basically allowed to even function up in the north. They eventually, eight years later, lose the war in a humiliating defeat at Dien Bien Phu and sign the accords. They go home in disgrace. And it was during this phase, them going home in disgrace.

41:32 which we helped facilitate, by the way, that this massive movement of people is going to occur. And you have, let's see, the Accords resulted in a partitioning of Vietnam on the 17th parallel with Ho Chi Minh in the north and the state of Vietnam in the south.

42:02 The agreements allowed a 300-day grace period that ended May 18, 1955. And this grace period was this psychological operation to get all of those people to move from the north to the south. This was all pre-planned. So once they then basically sealed that, made that in writing, and again,

42:30 Back up, they all wanted a unified country, but no one would allow them to have a unified country. Both the French and the U.S., because we did it too. We took them out of Haiphong, Naiphong Harbor, brought them down in ships. We flew them down. And most of them were evacuated to the Saigon area.

43:04 There was this huge humanitarian relief effort that we paid for, our tax dollars, for absolutely no reason other than to create turmoil in the South. And they set up all kinds of tent cities for these quote unquote refugees that they basically ripped out of their homes in the North. And the U.S.

43:32 basically got a huge big PR boost to this because, of course, we're helping people flee communism, and we're helping all of these poor oppressed people go to the quote-unquote free South. But every bit of it was a hoax, all of it. But it made for good conversation here.

44:03 And in Europe. And so you have the prime minister who is a Catholic in the South that we basically installed. No, Dem, Den, Dem. His last name is D-I-E-M, Dem. And so.

44:28 The migration was conventionally supposed to boost Catholic power base for Dem in the South because now, while you may have had, even if it was 50-50, it was not, but let's just say it was. You just imported, you know, like we're doing right now in the United States, we just imported another million voters in the South to boost Dem's popularity because no one liked him.

44:56 He had already canceled elections in the South because he knew he would lose them because nobody liked him. But that's who we picked to be installed, kind of like Pinochet in Chile and all of these people that we picked to put in. There are basically many dictators like Chiang Kai-shek in Taiwan. Or Zelensky. Or Zelensky.

45:24 And they pick these people that no one like, and then they have to go through all of these iterations to prop them up. So the Northern Catholics were never accepted in the South at all. The Southern people did not accept them. The Northern people, once they got there and realized how awful it was, they didn't want to be there. And they end up having what was referred to as the Buddhist crisis.

45:54 where the guy sets himself on fire in 1963. And that basically led to Dem's downfall and actually his assassination because we assassinated him, the CIA did. So the Catholics that had moved to the South was basically used.

46:24 as a political pawn in creating the chaos that occurred in the South. And besides that, all of them were not equally Catholic. Some people were very, very Catholic. Some people...

46:49 embraced Catholicism because of the camaraderie in their former northern village and how it was utilized in those villages. When they got to the South, they were very disillusioned because it was more about a power structure than a religion. And that created even more chaos.

47:21 Um, there are, if you go to, um, Wikipedia and you look up Operation Passage to Freedom, you're going to see a lot of the pictures, um, well, some pictures, not a lot, of the different, um, uh, the actual operation, um, happening. Um, and it, it's awful.

47:46 I've read a lot about the long-term results of this. And what you're going to find is eventually these people are going to be used in an apparatchik. And we'll talk about this either tomorrow or the day after about the Phoenix program. These are going to be the people that participate in the Phoenix program. These are going to be agents that rat out the quote-unquote disloyal.

48:16 that are then kidnapped and assassinated through the Phoenix program that I talked about on Alpha Warriors program ran through Michigan State University's program for their national police. These people become used in a way that for us sitting here is unimaginable. And of course, there's disease, there's all kinds of crap because

48:45 Even going from North Vietnam to South Vietnam, the people were exposed. Again, they had not been out of these villages for 200 or 300 years, if not longer. And so their immune systems were not at all built up to live in different climate, around different people. They had always lived among themselves. And so these people are just devastated. And then...

49:14 On top of that, you have things like this typhoon that goes through Haiphong in the middle of this, where a lot of people are killed that were in these temporary refugee camps on their way to the South. I mean, just one catastrophe after another. And this is all being done. And once they get them to the South, they can't beat them. They don't have enough people for another million people.

49:45 So all of this was done to manipulate the environment. And you had, and when it didn't work, you had, because, hold on a second. You have the leadership in the South not able to.

50:12 accommodate anything that the U.S. is basically orchestrating down there, and everything goes to a hell in a handbasket. And so then the CIA's recommendation to Kennedy is, well, just kill him, the president, and we'll start over. We'll do something different this time, which, of course, we know killing Dem didn't make anything any better. As a matter of fact, it just continually got worse because they hired

50:42 And the next guy and his brother are even worse than them. And we're going to get to them tomorrow. So one of you guys sent me an article that's called The Origins of the American War in Vietnam, the OSS and the role in Saigon in 1945. And it's actually a very good article. Let me.

51:11 Copy this over so Bridget can post it real quick. I'm not sure if I got that into the signal thing or not. Oh, shoot. I sent it to the wrong one. Well, they're going to get an odd email or text message. But there was some interesting things that was in this article that was a little different than what we talked about yesterday.

51:41 But it is of that same time frame. And let me just read a couple of this. Nearly 30 years.

51:52 had passed since the end of the Vietnam War or what they call the American War. But the American War in Vietnam originated in the French War to restore colonialism and the power vacuum that was left after the Japanese surrender. The following article documents, early U.S. post-war planners seem to have grasped

52:18 the nature of the old colonialism only to have forgotten their ideals when confronted with the revolutionary movement that was occurring. History has revealed the disastrous consequences of American escalation in Vietnam on the wrong side of history, just as the lessons of history appear seldom to have been learned. One generation on, America plunges into...

52:48 a disastrous military adventure, which, again, was just a continuation on and on. As the Pentagon Papers reveal, U.S. military policy towards France and repossession of its colonial territories was ambivalent. On one hand, the U.S. supported free French claims to all overseas possessions. On the other hand, in the Atlantic,

53:12 Charter and its pronouncements, the U.S. proclaims support for national self-determination and independence. That's kind of the disconnect. We say one thing and do another. Hold on a second. Let me get Cousinette back up here. And by January 1945, the U.S. concerns had shifted decisively to the

53:40 Japanese archipelago and possession of U.S. forces commitment. And basically, we just wanted basing rights over there. That's the whole thing that we were over there for. But what I found most fascinating about this is the American decision to forego its commitment to operations in Southeast Asia prompted a Singapore-based British Southeastern Asia command. And do you know who was named commander of that?

54:08 Admiral Louis Mountbatten. And we all remember him and his entire family through a lot of revelations about child pedophilia and all kinds of stuff. Well, he was who the Brits put in charge of the Southeast Asia Command after World War II. And I found that very, very interesting. Also...

54:37 It says that, let's see, Roosevelt also launched the CIA, the OSS successor, headed by William, the OSS had been headed by William Donovan, enjoying close ties to Roosevelt. Donovan was instructed to provide cover to support national liberation movements in Asia to resist Japanese.

55:08 Now, those weren't allowed in South America. They're just allowed wherever the U.S. says they're allowed. Whereas in France, the OSS worked alongside Free French to resist Nazi occupation. In Asia, the situation differed from that. When Japan invaded Indochina in September 1940,

55:32 The U.S. froze Japanese assets, which was the first of several moves that people believe began leading to the attack on Pearl Harbor. In July 1942, with Japanese occupation in Southeast Asia a reality, the OSS set up a guerrilla base for operations in Asia, but specifically they set that up in China. And that's the one we were talking about yesterday.

56:02 The OSS worked hand in hand with the communist Ho Chi Minh, which we talked about. And let's see, there was one other highlight. That's why I hate working online because you can't highlight this stuff. Let's see. So once Truman gets in, he provides a more assertive approach to the State Department. And you have.

56:34 A whole bunch of goings on, like with Richard Aldridge, who was part of the State Department slash OSS. You have the Secretary of State, Steninius, and he's telling France one thing. He's telling the people in Vietnam something else. But here's the interesting part.

57:00 also cast for the future of post-surrender Indochina by the terms of the Potsdam Conference, where it was decided to temporarily partition Vietnam and Laos at the 16th parallel. Under this agreement, the Allied chief of staff assigned British forces to take the Japanese surrender in Saigon and Cambodia, while Japanese troops surrendered to Chinese forces.

57:29 And do you know who that Chinese forces was? Not Mao's forces, Chiang Kai-shek. So Ho Chi Minh, the northern area, was turned over basically for administrative purposes to the drug king, Chiang Kai-shek. I was like, what the hell? And that is who the Chinese representative and...

58:00 They administered in the immediate aftermath of World War II, because just like when we were talking about Korea, how the Soviet Union was giving administrative responsibility for the north of Korea, and we took the south. Where here you have the Brits taking the south and the quote-unquote China, which is actually Chiang Kai-shek, who was not in charge of China, by the way. He was fighting the guy that was in charge of China.

58:29 And so I found that extremely interesting. And then the article goes on and it talks about a lot of the stuff that we already talked about yesterday. But it does have enough new information in it that I highly suggest you guys go back and read that because it talks about.

58:47 A few extra new people that we didn't go into yesterday, that was involved in the aftermath of the military operations. You know, some of the OSS people stayed, but there was an influx of new people that came in after the armistice for World War II. So definitely go back and give that a read. It's a very interesting article. Too long to go into here.

59:18 Let's see. There was one more I wanted to get to, and that is Edward Lansdell. Now, we all know him from CIA. He pretended to be a general, but he definitely was in the CIA. And he was the assistant air attache in the Saigon U.S. Embassy in the 1950s during the time we were just talking about.

59:46 And he had a particular specialty, psychological warfare operations. And now you see the correlation between the CIA and the military operations. Lansdell was responsible for the air operations to drop those leaflets.

1:00:09 that aided the Catholic Church in the mobilization of those people to scare the hell out of them to get them to move to the South. And that, to me, was kind of like the, you know, the final bow on the top of the present when you find out that, because you, let me just tell you this about Lansdale. Lansdale started out.

1:00:39 Before he got into the OSS, he was, and you guys, if you follow me, you know I'm always making fun of the PR, the media being the PR arm of the CIA and how all PR organizations work for the CIA. Well, guess what Lansdell did? He worked in San Francisco.

1:01:00 As a PR person, he was an advertising executive going into World War Two. And that's where while Bill Donovan found him because they had been using him on the West Coast just as an international syndicate guy to give good press. He had been writing press for these treacherous people for a long time before he ever donned an OSS uniform.

1:01:30 That's what he did. And he basically got commissioned in the army. And then he was commissioned to he was switched over to the Air Force in the aftermath. But he was never really a military officer. He was a CIA agent posing as one.

1:01:48 He was sent immediately to the Philippines, and we know why, because he had to do with Golden Lily and the securing of the gold deposits there that the Japanese had put there. And he comes up routinely in the Operation Golden Lily series that we did called Gold Warriors on my podcast over on the Colonel's Corner. So you have Philippine communists that formed guerrilla groups that were fighting.

1:02:15 The Japanese, he was all in on that as well. And so it was no surprise to find him transferred in the immediate aftermath of the Philippines and trying to get that all under control in the aftermath of World War II. Because, you know, that's where MacArthur was. MacArthur moves over to Japan and then Lansdale kind of skips over Japan and lands in.

1:02:44 And so he's in Saigon. He's helped writing the psychological warfare campaign to get all of those people crazed up and moving south in order to set up where we will go tomorrow as we continue this expose. So we're going to stop there. We will start.

1:03:11 from what happened after Dim's assassination. I'll go a little bit about that because there's some interesting aspects to that. And Kennedy was involved in that. Kennedy signed the findings for the CIA to assassinate him. So we'll go into that a little bit and then what happened in the aftermath. And because what happens in the aftermath sets up the Phoenix program. So that's it. If you guys want to come up.

1:03:39 and ask any questions. We are happy to entertain them. And by the way, just so everybody knows, there is an update for your iPhone. I've been glitching and having issues since the beginning. Well, I don't have that excuse because I tried from the laptop and it wouldn't let me in. And then I tried from the Samsung.

1:04:09 and barely got in although there are thunderstorms that just moved through and that's only because i hung the laundry on the line thank you very much hi hello colonel okay so i did just to let everyone know i did test out my phone last night to see if i'm still

1:04:33 uh, getting censored, you know, I, you know, if, if there's still an attack on the first amendment and unfortunately there is. So, uh, just for prefacing this for everyone, um, I have my father here with me. His father was the assistant director of the Phoenix program, which in hindsight actually means he was the director.

1:04:57 because he did all the things behind the scenes, and then the person that he spoke for was just the face of it. Just to let you guys know, be patient with my dad a little bit. I love him to death, but he is a Fox News dad, and I don't blame him. It's hard to get out of that rabbit hole and just have everything unravel, but I'm going to let him speak a little bit about who he is and things like that if we have any questions. And then, Colonel, after this, unfortunately...

1:05:24 I can't tell you everything that I know because I'm still being censored. After this, Colonel, if you're interested, I'll send you the link in case you're busy. Him and I are just going to read every single document that we've found so far that my grandpa kept because he really liked puzzles. And he left us a big puzzle because he didn't like that he had to take a lot of secrets to the grave. And I just need the Internet's help to help me solve the puzzle.

1:05:47 Colonel, I love your space probably more than any other space I've been in simply because you really do your research. So, Dad, if you want to go ahead and introduce yourself, who you are, what you've done, what you do now. Yeah, so I'm Colonel J.R. Newman, United States Air Force, retired 2018, got commissioned in 87. There was 105 years of military service between my dad.

1:06:16 My two brothers and myself. So my dad was drafted in World War II. He served in Alaska, Philippines, occupied Japan, came back, went to Germany, and was an artillery officer and then became an intel officer. And I think the intel officer work started in Germany because there was a...

1:06:45 This was before we had satellites and everything else. He had a produce truck coming out of Germany, going up to Russia, and they put cameras on the truck, kind of a James Bond operation, to get the tank and placements for where the Soviet tanks were and stuff. Came back. I was born in Germany. So can I ask you what dates he was in Germany? 1958 to 1962. Okay.

1:07:16 And so I was born in Germany, and then we came back, and my dad was stationed at the Pentagon. He sat next to George H.W. Bush at the Pentagon working CIA stuff. Was he on the Joint Staff? I don't know. I'll have to double-check. I'm still plowing through his DD Form 214s. He has two military records.

1:07:47 One of them is CIA and the other one is military. So people say we weren't in Laos. I've got documents to say that my dad was in Laos. Oh, yeah. We have plenty of proof that we were in Laos. I mean, the whole Raven program was ran out. Yeah. And all they did was have the military people take off their uniform. We were definitely in Laos. Yeah, Laos and Cambodia. And so anyway.

1:08:14 My brother Jim flew C-130s out of Thailand in Vietnam. My brother Mike was a Naval Academy grad who served in Vietnam. They got around the Sullivan Act by having them geographically separated, but there is a rather famous photo of my brother Jim being promoted by, and my dad and brother Mike pinned him in Saigon. I posted that on my, that's on my, that's in one of my posts.

1:08:43 So, yeah, that's what I sent you, Colonel. So, anyway, I served as a combat advisor in Afghanistan. But, you know, 31 years in the military, I did a lot of things. But I'm now working for Raytheon Intelligence and Space. And as you know, Raytheon is involved in the Ukraine War and the Israel Iron Dome, Patriot missiles and all those kinds of things. And I'm working Air Force Special Ops.

1:09:14 v22 osprey radar upgrade um i can't say much more than that but but anyway i i distinctly remember asking my dad one time um because i was a knucklehead all mock no compass heading grown up just like me and um i'd gone on a i got into rotc and finally had a vector in my life of what i wanted to do and um i went on a

1:09:45 helicopter flight and I'm this I was working at MJ aircraft interiors and this guy was a former Vietnam helicopter pilot and I didn't know it and I made fun of him because I was a fixed wing guy and I said helicopters don't fly they beat the air into submission he goes you want to go for a ride and he took me for a ride scared the crap out of me and I and I came back and I asked my dad you know I told my dad about it I go oh my god this guy

1:10:14 We were slaloming over power lines. We were weaving in between trees. I mean, it just scared the crap out of me. Yeah, he was trying to make you sick. Well, yeah, he didn't make me sick, but he scared the crap out of me. Because when we took off, the skids of the helicopter were taking tassels off the corn. Well, when you see that view in a fixed-wing airplane, you're about ready to hit the ground.

1:10:41 Right. And when was this? Is this while you were in Rockies? Yeah. Yeah. So this is probably around. And where? Around. What university did you go to? I went to IUPUI in Indianapolis, which is Indiana, Purdue University, Indianapolis, IU. And then I ended up ultimately going to Purdue University. Okay. Hold on. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Were you at IU in their Rockies? Yes.

1:11:10 From 85 to 87? No, I was there 84, 85, and then I transferred to Purdue 86, 87. Okay, because I graduated from IU's Rossi Detachment in 87. No kidding. Cue incidences. Cue incidences, guys. Oh, God, what is your name? Roxanne. Roxanne what?

1:11:36 Did you do four years of ROTC? I did not. I did not. I was prior service. And that's why when you were talking about you working, I got my AP license. I was in aircraft maintenance when I first enlisted in 1979. I'm getting a lot of interference. There's a mic open somewhere. It's just theirs.

1:12:01 That's the only mic we have besides SR7. Yeah, we're on a screened-on porch, so it's probably the traffic on the street. Sorry about that, y'all. So, yeah, I graduated in 87 as well. That's awesome. You know Sergeant Hahn, then.

1:12:19 I know Rob Hahn, and I know he's back there. Him and I, crazy story, you guys, and I don't mean to bore you since we're here for a completely different reason, but I graduated from IU, and I went to Los Angeles Air Force Base. Sergeant Hahn left IU and went to San Diego. And my follow-on assignment from Los Angeles was San Diego. Oh, man, I tell you what, Sergeant Hahn was worth his weight in gold.

1:12:51 He's the only reason I got my commission. Well, same here. The detachment commander tried to keep me out because he didn't like prior service people. Yeah, well, yeah, I got a long story there. But anyway, so I was talking to my dad because my dad was, he had two people that he reported to when he was in Vietnam. And one was William Colby and the other was General Abrams.

1:13:18 And I've got handwritten letters from both those guys talking about the work he did in Vietnam. When he got there, he was there 69 through 71. When he got there, he was the director of Phoenix Intelligence. And when he got there, the price tag on his head was $10,000. By the time he left, it was up to a million dollars. He had three attempts on his life.

1:13:47 You know, shoebox bomber. They had wired his lighter with C4 and he loaned it to his aide and the aide got blown up. I mean, it was just really wild how my dad survived all that. But I was I told my dad about this helicopter flight and he goes, hell, John, that's nothing. He goes, you ought to be driving, flying in a helicopter in the valley, in the jungle.

1:14:13 with people shooting through the rotor blades and I go wait a minute you had a desk job in Saigon he goes no I had an office in Saigon and I would fly north to collect intel reports and interrogate prisoners now so my dad had some secrecy put on him that was uh some of it was to the grave some of it was 50 years some of it was 25 years and so

1:14:47 I asked him, he said that he would fly north and get the intel reports and interrogate prisoners. So I had to ask, how did you interrogate the prisoners? And he said that he would take two VC up in a helicopter, start asking questions. If he wasn't getting what he was wanting, he pushed one out and the other one told him everything he wanted to know. And that's well documented. Yeah, and so...

1:15:15 The point of the matter is, look, this is my dad, and I loved him, and I respected him. He had a soft spot for little old ladies, puppy dogs, women, and children. But if you were a male between 7 and 70, God help you. He would say, you know, if you want sympathy, John, you'll find it between shit and syphilis in the dictionary. So he was pretty hardcore. But I'm telling you that the mantra, as I understood it at Phoenix, was you don't kill a snake by cutting off.

1:15:46 cutting at the tail you kill the snake by cutting off the head and so what my dad my dad was a brilliant mind he would track money and trade and all that he'd figure out who the players were and really one of the key things in in vietnam was if you had elephants that's like black suvs in america if you had elephants you had money

1:16:13 And so he would track all of that and figure out what was going on. See, the problem that I'm having in finding out about Operation Gladio, having spent 30 years in the military myself, is that what I have found out, and I understand that most of the people that served during this time were provided.

1:16:40 limited information in the classification need-to-know kind of diatribe that you and I are very familiar with, a lot of them did not have access to the entire picture. The problem with the cutting the head off the snake scenario is what most of the people that were involved in these activities didn't realize is the CIA was behind them breeding the snakes. Oh, without a doubt.

1:17:10 You know, my dad had his marching orders and was very effective at what he did. And, you know, I want to say that he followed orders, and I want to say they were lawful orders, but I don't know. Like I said, you got two sets of military records from my dad, CIA and Army records.

1:17:39 If somebody said that that person was the enemy, take them out. My dad took them out. And so. And at the time in their defense, most of the people didn't realize how corrupt our government was. Well, right, right. And so, you know, I don't know. I mean, I think my dad, you know, ultimately he died of leukemia and lung cancer and diabetes and a few other things.

1:18:08 He was exposed to Agent Orange and then he was in. I was going to say leukemia was my first thing when you said it was leukemia. My cousin has it. And that is absolutely he was in security forces. It's absolutely Agent Orange. Yeah. And so but he was also at Los Alamos where they did the above ground nuclear testing. And, you know, of course, John Wayne, I think, shot a Western over there and he died of cancer. But I don't know. Pick one.

1:18:36 Of course, he smoked like a fiend and drank like a fish. That's how they provide. And I don't fault him for that because as a combat advisor in Afghanistan, I rolled on 135 convoys, and everybody had a tobacco habit. They were either chewing tobacco or they were smoking.

1:19:00 It was the only way you could calm your nerves, right? Because you didn't know on any given day whether you were going to make it back. And I remember there was a young captain. She was cuter than a speckled pup, but she chewed tobacco. And I just thought that was hilarious. This captain, she was like 5'4", blonde hair. She was chewing tobacco. I bummed a dip from her one day. But she was a part of the cougar.

1:19:28 the weapons escort team in Afghanistan, which was a huge target. But he was a badass, man. So we all had the tobacco habits. Of course, in World War II, it was like they're passing out cigarettes, smoke them if you got them. So I feel for anybody that's served in the military that's got PTSD and substance abuse issues. And I certainly have a little bit of PTSD. So my son and I,

1:19:58 I'm digging through some of the documents and my dad hung on to a lot of documents. And as my son alluded to, prior to going to Vietnam, my dad was involved in some of the stuff that happened in 68, the Watts riots in California and Detroit. And he cut out some articles. He had some newspaper articles or.

1:20:27 magazine articles that he had highlighted. And I think he was leaving some breadcrumbs of some significant information. But like I said, I'm plowing through, oh man, a stack probably four feet high of documents that my dad hung on to. And I think my dad hung on to a lot of this stuff for a reason. I've got maps of Vietnam and a lot of articles from Vietnam that he hung on to.

1:20:58 And, you know, I'm just plowing through it. And certainly once I find the goldmine of information, we'll post it. And that way it's firsthand information and not secondhand information. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, good luck with that. And thank you for sharing all of that with us. We will definitely be.

1:21:23 um staying in touch um and will help share any of the information um marie um what did you have a question uh yeah i did and then right as i raised my hand you guys started talking about my my uh genre of obsession so first of all sir i want to thank you for your service and even continuing your service to the american people and what you're doing now i so appreciate you thank you and to your dad

1:21:53 I know that time has passed and he's visiting other worlds, but I still believe that they can hear us. Welcome him home for me, please. Oh, yeah. Because I know they didn't. I went to his grave and I played a harmonica I got handed to from one of his best friends and I prayed for him. I prayed for his forgiveness. So they definitely can't still hear us, Marie. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. It's interesting you bring that up because.

1:22:22 In the movie Forrest Gump, the Medal of Honor ceremony that Tom Hanks was dubbed into with Sam Davis, Congressional Medal of Honor recipient. Who did I get that harmonica from, Doug? Sam Davis. But anyway, so what's really wild is Sam Davis wrote a book that's titled You Don't Lose Till You Quit Trying. And he describes everything that happened in Vietnam to include coming home and when they were going through San Francisco and they had to.

1:22:52 Put on blue jeans and a white T-shirt and they got smeared with dog crap and everything else. But Sammy Davis, when he was in Vietnam and was wounded really bad, broke his back, broke a leg. Wes Moreland went to visit him and he said, son, you can go home. And Sam said, I don't want to leave my unit.

1:23:16 Westmoreland turns to my dad and says, Colonel Newman, meet Private Davis. Private Davis, meet Colonel Newman. Hey, Colonel Newman, take care of Private Davis. And Sammy Davis, the Congressional Medal of Honor recipient, doesn't talk much about what he did. He said he was a courier for my dad, but he was also a good shot at 1,500 meters. But he's a little tight-lipped about that, and I think...

1:23:43 He may have done some missions for my dad in Vietnam, but I will post a photo of that book. It's a great read, and it really talks to the Vietnam veterans who, when they got back, were not welcomed home, and they didn't talk about their experiences in Vietnam, and so the suicide rates and substance abuse is really bad with the Vietnam vets. But it's a very healing book, and it says, look,

1:24:11 You've got to talk about it. Get with somebody and talk about it so that you can deal with whatever it is that's haunting you. And I would encourage anybody that's a veteran or anybody that knows somebody that was a veteran that this book would be really good for them because it talks about a path forward for the Vietnam veterans who were horribly treated when they came home.

1:24:39 Certainly, I couldn't go anywhere without people patting me on the back and thanking me for my service and buying me a cup of coffee. And it was just crazy. But the Vietnam veterans paid a real price for their service. Yes, they did. And I agree. I try to go out of my way when I see a veteran wearing their hat or their shirt. I try to go out of my way to welcome them home. I have a Rottweiler who is PTSD certified. So we get to go and we get to hear those stories.

1:25:08 And it's really amazing because these vets will talk to my dog. You know, sometimes that human barrier is a little too much, but he's like 130 pound tic-tac on legs and he just wiggles his way in there. So my question to you, sir, as you're going through these documents, I actually have two questions. One question is, was your dad over there in the late stages of the Vietnam War as it was coming to an end and Nixon was...

1:25:36 working on peace agreements. Was he there still in that time frame? No, he was there 69, 70, and 71. He did three consecutive tours. So 71 would still classify him. The other thing that I'm interested in that I haven't seen, I have the research on it, and I have the documentation not classified or anything that's out of the military.

1:26:02 It was a lot of people that had memory that spoke of this. The Vietnam War was the first war that we started heavily using depleted uranium. And the reason I asked about the years he was there is because it was right at the tail end of 71 and 72 when they were in these kind of the beginning phases of these negotiations. They started dropping depleted uranium on the Vietnamese.

1:26:29 And that depleted uranium, everything that your father passed from is a direct cause and effect from depleted uranium. So that's why I was curious. If you come across anything in that, I followed you. If you come across anything to do with depleted uranium, if you think about me, would you send it my way, please? Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, when we plow through all these documents,

1:26:57 As I run across anything that I think is of interest to everybody for the group, to include you, I will pass that on. And just for fun, a couple years back, I Googled my dad just to see what would come up. And it was Colonel Newman, Phoenix Intelligence. And there was some stuff that popped up on the Internet. That you can't find anymore because they censored it.

1:27:28 Oh, really? Yeah. The only thing I can find now is a PDF document. There's only one picture I can find of him on the internet. Wow. I'm going to interrupt you right here really quick. There's a thing on archive.org called the Wayback Machine.

1:27:44 If you go to Google and type in the Wayback Machine and then search his name, if anybody has archived websites or information or anything on him, you can go through the dates and it'll have like a little purple or black dot. You can highlight that date and it will show that website that's been 404'd, censored or disappeared. So you guys may still be able to find that stuff. Marie, you just spoke to my soul as a cybersecurity.

1:28:09 Like, whatever I am, just a rebel to society, I guess. You just spoke to my soul. Thank you for telling everyone about Wayback Machine. Yeah, that's interesting because I was surprised how much I could pull up. And there was a lot of times where my dad would be at some dinner in Saigon. And I swear to God, he was wearing a James Bond, you know, shirt, you know, those Hawaiian shirts and stuff. And incidentally.

1:28:38 You spoke of the French resistance. I have another book where I met a guy, Rene DeForno, who was a French-born person that moved to Canada, was in Canada, joined the British Special Forces in World War II.

1:29:02 and worked with the french resistance and he wrote a book called uh the winking fox and then there's the trails of the winking fox i have that autograph as it turns out my dad knew him and my dad also knew the norwegian guys that um parachuted out of an airplane to take out the germany heaven heavy water factory there's been a movie made about that but so my dad was plugged into some

1:29:29 Pretty tough dudes that were working special ops and Intel and everything else. But Colonel, I really appreciate your your talk today because, you know, you hear you hear a lot of things, but maybe not the whole story. Right. And I know that right now there's a lot of Christians and I don't think they were organized to fight wars, but they're over there really trying to do.

1:29:58 spread the gospel in the Middle East and China and everywhere else. And there's a lot of Christians in third world countries being martyred right now. But I don't know if they're associated with any other organizations. So what I have found is this Operation Gladio insidious thing that was developed.

1:30:22 inside of NATO after World War II that has basically been spread. It's a paramilitary capability that they use to orchestrate not just domestic terror events, but international false flags. And they have infiltrated and created entire religious movements. For example, and I don't know how much your son has shared with you.

1:30:49 In my research, we came across Jim Jones, who we all think of as the Kool-Aid drinker. His church that was started, as you probably know, in Richmond, Indiana. There's something about Indiana. I don't know what it is. The Eucharist convention was here this year. I don't know what it is either. So he started a church in Richmond, Indiana. He takes that church.

1:31:17 out to San Francisco at the height of the CIA MKUltra experiments. And he is designated by the state of California as a foster home. And so he has all of these children that is exposed to all of these different psychological operations. When Leo Ryan, the local congressman, gets word of what's going on and he starts investigating them, they move him. They pick up this church and move it. And at this point, he has acquired

1:31:46 Two billion dollars worth of assets in this church because he is blackmailing all of the politicians in California for God knows what. And he's vote running both in Southern California and L.A. and in San Francisco for all of the Democrat for the Diane Weinstein campaign when she was mayor, blah, blah, blah. So they pick this church up and they plop it down in Guyana, where if you go back.

1:32:13 Prior to that church moving there, you find out that that installation they plopped that church down on to continue their NK Altra experiments was a Gladio training base that they were mounting paramilitary operations from Guyana into Venezuela and down to Colombia. Wow. They were training terrorists for Central America on this installation. And then I'll go one step further.

1:32:41 Jim Jones' elementary best friend was the Richmond police chief. Do you know where he ended up? Where? He ended up in Chile as the trainer, just like they did out of Michigan State in Vietnam.

1:33:06 He ends up in Chile as the trainer of the national police in how to torture, assassinate and kidnap people from having retired as the Richmond police chief. Wow. And yeah, he's CIA as well. And I don't know how long he was CIA, but he ends up.

1:33:28 From what we were told were the quote-unquote bad guys in Chile, they get together, these guerrilla forces, because they're trying to get rid of Pinochet, who's a dictator that the CIA installed, and they murder this guy. I mean, they kidnap him and murder him because he was experimenting. He was using mentally retarded children and adults.

1:33:54 as guinea pigs to teach their national police force under the dictator Pinochet how to do the torture. Yeah, you know, it's really wild. And I kind of look back at, I don't know if you guys have seen the movie The Shooter with Mark Wahlberg, but that was pretty interesting. The senator and the colonel and, you know, they touched on some of the evil that was.

1:34:22 Started with the politicians and the CIA. And, you know, absolutely, I believe that if you want, you can go in and take out a country. And there's there's techniques to make a country fall. And the CIA has gotten pretty good at it. To piggyback off of that, one of the techniques the Lord says in the Bible, a nation divided will fall. So the first thing they're going to try and attack is our religious belief system. Why? Because the conglomerate that holds us together. But sorry to interject.

1:34:53 Yeah, no, that's exactly the point. So they disguise themselves as a religion and do these evil deeds. And the same thing was we found with the Branch Davidian was a religious organization. But when you start peeling back the onion, when all was said and done, they were finding large stashes of weaponry.

1:35:15 in that facility that made it look more like one of the stay-behind units that they would have used in Operation Gladio than anything that resembles a religion. And they did the same thing in Germany. They had a religious orphanage there that he was a pedophile and molesting children. And he picks that up and he moves that down to, I think it was Uruguay.

1:35:39 And it's set up as a stay-behind terrorist organization to train the national police there. So they have constantly used religious entities as a disguise or a cloaking device to create these terrorist organizations because it's much easier to fool us into believing that they're a

1:36:08 And then the thing that made it most disgusting to me about the Vietnam thing is once you realize and you dig into these organizations that were set up within the Catholic Church to then frame persecution in the aftermath after they had been themselves involved in the military action. That to me is just. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, it's totally sad. And I'm and what I would.

1:36:36 What I would say we as a country need right now is the ability to do critical thinking. Yep. And what I would say is, and I'm not going to get political, but it's going to sound political, but if somebody says the unemployment rate dropped 10% last month, does that mean you got to look at how unemployment is tracked? And unemployment is based on benefits. So what it really means is.

1:37:06 10% of the people that were getting, you know, 10% might have been those people stopped receiving unemployment benefits. Did they really create that many jobs? Or we talk about inflation. Well, inflation may be slowing down, but the cumulative effects of inflation over the last three years has been 20%, 20, 25%. So people need to get a little bit smarter about do some critical thinking about when they say something.

1:37:35 what do those numbers mean and where are they getting them from? Because if not, you can be fed a whole bunch of lies. Well, that's kind of what we're doing here. We are going back and examining our history in a critical analysis of what actually really happened as opposed to the story that we were told. Yeah, exactly. And I think that once people realize, because some people,

1:38:05 At least going into the last five to 10 years, had no idea. And I put myself in that same population. Did I know that our government lied to me? Yes. Did I know the extent to which they lied to me? Absolutely not. And once you start looking at our history and you realize 99% of our history has been a lie.

1:38:32 And you start going back using international sources because those of us who've lived in other countries realize they provide completely different historical information and in many times much more factual depending on what country you're in. And you start comparing notes. You begin to get a completely different picture. And what I've tried to do over the last several months is provide people alternative.

1:39:04 history, that they can then reconcile themselves and begin to ask their own questions. And I think once you start asking your questions about history, then the current situation is able to take care of itself because if they lied to you about this then, you know that they're lying to you about that now. Yeah, yeah. And the other one that was really interesting, and sorry, I think James told you that I'm

1:39:30 A little bit conservative. That's welcome here. You don't have to be politically correct anymore. I was listening to Dr. Ben Carson on James Dobson focus on the family. And you guys can Google that. He went back to 1963 and there was a congressman out of Florida that introduced something that's actually in the Library of Congress. And when.

1:40:00 When Ben Carson went down there and it was like, take over the media, break up the family, get sexual confusion going on, take over the universities. You look at where we are today and you go all the way back to 1963. Man, there's been a deliberate effort to destroy the country, in my opinion. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I just posted something yesterday about that. There was actually an entire committee.

1:40:30 In Chicago that had Jamie Raskin's dad on it and a cloward Pivens on it. That was part of the orchestration of that entire curriculum. Let me get a couple of these hands. Let me, sorry, Colonel. I just, I'm trying to teach my dad about technology. So you see these people here with their pictures, how they got hands next to them. Oh yeah. Yeah. Sorry. People are raising their hand. Sorry. I need to shut up. I'll proceed with my STFU checklist. No, you're good. You're good.

1:41:01 All along, go ahead. Hi. Yeah. I just want to make a quick point about, you have probably touched this on other shows, but you mentioned the mayor of, I'm sorry, the police chief of Richmond, Indiana, who was killed in Uruguay. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, what's up?

1:41:33 Okay, sorry. Can you hear me? Yes, go ahead. Yeah, I just wanted to point out, he was involved in the policing for Richmond, Indiana, where Jim Jones is from. He was involved in the CIA Office of Public Safety program, which, as you probably have mentioned in some of your other shows, was the same program that Hank Hernandez and Manny Pena of LAPD, the two real chokeholds of the RFK investigation.

1:42:03 of the CIA assassination of RFK, they ran it, and they were in the same program as that police chief of Richmond, Indiana, for CIA. Nominally, it was training interrogation techniques. So I just wanted to add that because, you know, as you know, the RFK campaign of 1968, it really ended with three assassinations, and it's just critically under...

1:42:30 talked about but anyway excellent show yeah thank you we actually did cover the JFK or the RFK assassination when we did the 1968 correlation to the current DNC and

1:42:53 I know when we talked about the Office of Public Safety a long time ago when we first ran across that Mitteroni, Dan Mitteroni is his name, that we did talk about the other people that we could find that were also in that program and was trained to do the exact same thing. So thank you for reminding us all of that. Marie, go ahead.

1:43:19 This has been great. And I just wanted to, I found the operation. I couldn't remember the name, so I was digging in the background. But as you're looking through your paperwork, sir, if you come across anything in regards to Operation Linebacker, that was the operation that they didn't tell the world about, that they were dropping copious amounts of depleted uranium on the population there.

1:43:45 The correlation of agent orange and depleted uranium. I'm so glad for this space because sometimes things trigger you to continue to look. And you guys just gave me the avenue to connect the direct link of those two and the illnesses and symptoms regarding to them. So Colonel, I'll send you those articles or I can post them down in the pill if you're interested, but I'm probably going to write an entire. Yeah. And then I'm going to use them to write an entire thread on this, but it's Operation Linebacker.

1:44:13 If you guys want to, I'm very familiar with linebacker. Okay. So if that's part of the Gladio, I just, you know, you guys have got me really motivated right now. So thank you. My dad, my dad wanted to respond to you real quick, Marie. Yeah. So I, uh, linebacker one, linebacker two. And I, I, yeah, so I'm tracking, I will, um, I will keep an eye out for any of that information that I may find.

1:44:40 Okay, and your son and I have a little bit of a thread of comments down in that pill from my original post. So, Colonel, just to keep it organized so it's not through the entire pill, I'm going to continue to use that thread between James and I to drop the other articles. Thank you. Thank you very much, and I appreciate that. Lady Annihilation, or Annihilate, did you have a question? Yes, ma'am. Can you hear me, Colonel?

1:45:12 I can hear you. I want to send you my grandfather's form that I took his funeral and he was in Vietnam and I cannot. And he served over 20 years. And I'm trying to find out information. One of my friends says that I probably won't ever find out anything really because it's classified. Oh, my gosh. And I'm freaking out because I hear about that USS Liberty. And I'm thinking that could have been one of my grandfathers because they were in the Navy then.

1:45:40 And someone mentioned Agent Orange, one of my grandfathers here where I live, he had won a lawsuit or something with Agent Orange. Yeah, he's got all kind of things because of that garbage. I cannot believe this. This is crazy. I'm so glad this space is recorded. Thank you, Colonel. I'm going to send you that if you don't mind. No, that'd be great. And I'll tell you something else. The VA finally came out with a ruling that.

1:46:07 They admitted that Agent Orange is causing this, so the widows and widowers and whoever else may be entitled to benefits based on Agent Orange. Yeah, it's not presumptive. Yeah, and so I'm trying to help as many veterans as I can get their entitlements, especially the Vietnam veterans. So, yeah, please send that. That's awesome. Thank you. Okay.

1:46:42 SR-71, did you have anything? Thank you, Colonel. Other than thanking everybody for sharing, and I really appreciate what's going on here, and I really appreciate this space, Colonel. You don't know how much I appreciate this space. But given all of that, one thing that really came across today, along with some of the stuff that's going on,

1:47:07 Vietnam is a scar. It's a scab that's not going to heal. Not anytime soon. And I think you're going to see that throughout years to come. But one thing that was said today was critical thinking and thinking about what's really going on. And the way you get fooled, specifically in the math arena, is you get a percentage of a percentage. When you get a percentage of a percentage,

1:47:35 Think twice. So it's interesting that you say that because I know that it was very frustrating to both Bridget and Cousin It as I had asked them to gather the stuff on Asia and I kept pushing it off. It dawned on me in the middle of this that, and what you just said highlighted that, because Vietnam is so recent in most of our...

1:48:04 It is still very emotional and it's emotionally attached. It's not as distant as World War II. It's not as distant as World War I. And if we would have started or even gotten to Asia before we went through Africa and went through Europe and went through South America, we would not have the critical skills built up to dispassionately.

1:48:34 analyze what went on in Vietnam outside of what we've been propagandized to believe that went on. But now we are fully aware of this operation, how it's conducted, the manner at which they will go to to enrich themselves and kill us.

1:48:58 And it is not until you have a full appreciation of what they're capable of doing that we can now go back and chronologically look at where we've been to where we were in the late 60s and early 70s. And I mean, we're still back at this point in the late 50s. We haven't even got to the 60s yet.

1:49:24 And then, of course, on into the early 70s when we finally were exercised ourself out of there. But that's what I kept in the back of my mind, kept saying, we're not ready yet. We're not ready yet. Because you have to understand the depth of depravity before you can fully grasp what they did in Vietnam. And so I want everybody to be able to look at it.

1:49:53 in as an objective way as possible for all of us that it somehow directly affected. My half-brother was over there. So all of us, a lot of us, I'll say, not all of us, have direct ties to it. And that makes us emotionally involved in it. And without the critical thinking skills,

1:50:21 We would not be able to look at it. And now we've got enough behind us, enough knowledge of these operations and how they work to be able to walk through this in an objective manner. And then, of course, you will go from the knowledge of what happened in Vietnam. You're going to be able to see how the Phoenix program in a very similar fashion, only dealing with the technology part of it, which I harp on all the time.

1:50:51 is taking place in America right now. They are disappearing us with technology and removing your bank account and all this other stuff. So you're going to be able to see all of the different applications that were tried and tested in Vietnam, both as we were just talking with Marie about the chemical part of it, but also in many other aspects. And those have been perpetuated over the course.

1:51:19 from 1970 because again we are building the case that from the end of world war ii we have been in a perpetual war to keep our wealth being extracted from us and given to them and so we're just at the step where we're going through vietnam right now um did you have something else um i was just gonna say yeah this war was so bad apparently

1:51:48 My mom will never forgive her dad. He didn't have anything to do with them very much. He would leave our house in the middle of the night if he came to visit. And he was a drunk. And, oh, my gosh, she longs to know if he loved her. And I know he did because we were the only two. There were three, like, blood relatives at his funeral. And he had all of his military stuff. Now I just was telling my mom the lady that he was married to.

1:52:14 She has passed away. So all of these documents she refused to give us. So now we don't have them. Of course, there's no telling what was in it. I mean, I have the naval birth certificates of both all three of my aunts. They were all born at the Naval Hospital in Norfolk. But anyways, that's just what I was going to say. And I'm going to send that to you right now. I just was also wondering why does it say that my grandfather went in and Kodiak, Alaska, so that he's never been there that I know of.

1:52:44 Well, it depends on what he was doing. Kodiak, Alaska is their water survival school for a lot of the different military skill sets. Did you say he was in the Navy? Yes, ma'am. Yeah, so that's probably, he was there for his, depending on what his skill set was. I just know Kodiak, Alaska is used for a lot of different water survival, water training.

1:53:14 Again, during Vietnam, there were a lot more facilities set up to assess people because they were drafted, right? So we had massive amounts of people coming in the military, and so they set up temporary entrance basic training areas, and it would just make sense that the Navy would have one on the coast. That is beautiful. I think you saw the pictures. Well, I know that when he came to Mobile, where I live,

1:53:43 Um, my grandmother remarried because she had to go to the ship captain and tell him you wouldn't pay child support. And back then, I guess you could. And no wonder he married a Cuban that didn't speak English and shit because he couldn't talk, I guess. But anyways, um, he, um.

1:54:00 He had the pictures I have are of a capsule like in the ocean. And then there's a helicopter or some type of plane or some type of plane. I've posted them. But then I took them off my pen. But anyways, I'll share those. But I didn't know what those were from. They read his funeral. Okay. We'll look at it. Thank you. Thank you. Bridget, Cousinette, y'all have anything? Bridget? Mind blown as usual. Thank you.

1:54:37 I've been fighting my phone the whole time. So, no, I don't have anything because I'm just going to let Twitter have it. I hope, James, you get to bring your father on as we continue our way through Vietnam. Absolutely. Tomorrow, I will say, so I mentioned quite a few times in the spaces that I work as a bartender at an American Legion.

1:55:06 one-on-one with the vets tomorrow we might not be able to make it uh my dad actually his way of being a humble like people at this place don't even know he's a colonel humble he just cooks steaks for veterans like we get butcher meat and he cooks a mean steak but tomorrow we might be cooking steaks i don't know if we'll be able to join that's why i'm going to do the space after this um he did have a few things to say but i just want to emphasis on uh what you

1:55:34 I guess, as you probably have seen by now, Colonel, this Q conspiracy theory, right? I do proudly represent a tinfoil hat. Dad, I just want to ask you, what was that nickname that you gave for coincidences? Not incidents. Colonel, I had no idea that you were at IU.

1:55:55 And I swear to you that I would have never used or abused my knowledge and technology to get that from you, because out of all the spaces, you have been the one that has humbled me the most. And I just genuinely appreciate that. That's why when people were asking what spaces should I join, I always drop you because you really do do your research. OK, so my dad did have something to say to someone, a couple of things. Yeah. So because I was a part of my duty on.

1:56:24 On active duty and in the Air National Guard, I was a mortuary affairs officer and an honor guard commander. And, you know, I've had a lot of families trying to figure out what their loved ones did. You can actually go to the National Archives and get copies of the 214 and the records of service on loved ones.

1:56:50 And I will get that to my son and he'll post it to this chat. So the lady that was talking earlier about ADAC Alaska and everything, there was a reason we had a bunch of people up in Alaska because we thought Japan was going to come to Alaska. So there was a defensive posture up there. And there was also a lot of training going on in Alaska.

1:57:16 You can actually get a lot of records from the National Archives. And I'll have my son post that website. What you'll need is the social security number of the loved one and your relationship to them. And it'll take a minute because it's the government and they're slow. But you can get a lot of records. So I hope that helps. Thank you. Appreciate that.

1:57:47 Okay. And of course, you guys know that you can listen to it so you can catch up and you can come right in with us day after tomorrow. So have fun at your steak cookout. And we will be back here tomorrow at four. I appreciate everybody being here. And God bless everybody. See you tomorrow. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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Claims made here

United States financed_via South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 5:15

“Nugent co-back, the United States continued to deny normal diplomatic relationships to Vietnam in maintaining its trade embargo and once again stamped its veto on the Vietnamese entry into the Interna…”

United Kingdom financed_via South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 6:04

“Who benefits? Great Britain is another party that appears to be benefiting from the U.S. embargo. While Japan had obeyed U.S. economic strictures, sharing only 0.03% of its total foreign investment in…”

Royal Dutch Shell financed_via South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 6:30

“Britain accounted for 30% of its foreign investment in Vietnam in 1989, following by France 21% and the Netherlands almost 20%. Dutch Royal Shell, a total of France and British Petroleum, are now sear…”

British Petroleum financed_via South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 6:30

Soviet Union financed_via South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 7:54

“In the 1990s, the Soviet Union informed Hanoi that it would expect a sharp reduction in aid from Moscow in 91 because, of course, it fell apart. Vietnamese received 100 percent of its fuel and cotton …”

Michelin financed_via South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 8:53

“You go and look at what their major resource is that we would be interested in, and of course you find rubber. And Michelin, which is a French-affiliated company, is largely behind this, which makes s…”

Society of Jesus member_of Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 10:50

“In the first decades of the 17th century, did Christianity begin to establish its position within the local population in both Tonkin area and Cochin, China? These, which are areas, these missionaries…”

Francisco Franco member_of Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 11:20

“established the first Catholic community in a place called Hoian, H-O-I-A-N, in 1615. Another Catholic official, Alexandre Rhodes, converted more than 6,000 people in Tonkin to the Catholic religion. …”

Diogo Varallo member_of Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 11:20

Alexandre de Rhodes member_of Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 11:20

Dominican Order member_of Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 11:52

“since the late 17th century, French missionaries of an entity called the Foreign Mission Society. And I'm going to come back to that in a second because it's very important. Foreign Missions Society. …”

Pierre Pigneau de Behaine member_of Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 12:48

“And it's P-I-G-N-E-A-U. Played a key role in the Vietnamese history towards the end of the 18th century. He had come to South Vietnam to evangelize. In 1777, the Tay Son brothers killed the ruling Ngu…”

Pierre Pigneau de Behaine member_of Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 13:18

“It was literally a kingdom. And Nugent Ahn, A-N-H, was the most senior member of that family to have survived. He fled into the Mekong Delta region in the far south where he met Pignu. Pignu was Nugen…”

Pierre Pigneau de Behaine supplied_arms_to Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 14:14

“was dispatched to seek French aid. He had been able to recruit a band of French volunteers. Pignou and other missionaries acted as business agents, purchasing munitions and military supplies. So you h…”

Pierre Pigneau de Behaine recruited France host_asserted ▶ 14:14

Gia Long member_of Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 14:43

“Pignot took part in the campaigns. He organized defense and basically served as a military advisor. By 1802, Nguyen Nguyen Anh conquered all of Vietnam and declared himself Emperor Gia Long, G-I-A-L-O…”

Gia Long appointed Nguyen Phuc Dam host_asserted ▶ 18:39

“the son of Geelong's second wife, was appointed instead. So, Geelong chose him for his strong character and his deeply conservative aversion to Westerners, whereas Khan's lineage had all converted to …”

Nguyen Phuc Dam member_of Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 18:39

Duyet member_of Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 19:39

“who became the emperor, put down the famous Thay Son rebellion in unifying Vietnam. So he had a lot of prestige throughout Vietnam. Duet and many of his Southern associates tended to be favorable to C…”

Duyet supplied_arms_to Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 19:39

Minh Mang member_of Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 20:38

“Geelong was aware that Catholic clergy were opposed to the installation, and the guy's name that was the heir apparent now is Ming Meng, M-A-N-G. So Ming Meng began to place restrictions on Catholicis…”

Minh Mang assassinated Duyet host_asserted ▶ 21:55

“Ming-Ming didn't confront him because he was held in such high esteem because it was his military might that basically united the country to begin with. And so Ming-Ming waited until he died, and then…”

Nguyen Van Khoi member_of Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 22:51

“in favor of restoring the original line of the royal family. And this, of course, was in support of Catholicism. And in 1833, rebels took over the southern part of Vietnam. And that was the beginning …”

Nguyen Van Khoi attempted_coup_against Nguyen Dynasty host_asserted ▶ 22:51

Joseph Marchand member_of Paris Foreign Missions Society host_asserted ▶ 23:51

“And there was a French missionary, Father Joseph Machard, of the French Foreign Mission Society, another one of those things that we'll look at, was captured in the seas for supporting Khoi and asked …”

Joseph Marchand supplied_arms_to Nguyen Van Khoi host_asserted ▶ 23:51

Nguyen Dynasty assassinated Joseph Marchand host_asserted ▶ 24:51

“Father Machard eventually is executed for his role in the rebellion. Failure of this revolt ended up disastrous for the Christians of Vietnam. New restrictions were put on them. New demands were made.…”

France carried_out_attack China host_asserted ▶ 30:37

“Augusta Chapadeline, C-H-A-P-D-E-L-A-I-N-E, became the cause folly for the French involvement in the Second Opium War in 1856. And keep in mind, because we just talked about that yesterday, this is th…”

France carried_out_attack Korea host_asserted ▶ 31:02

“were involved in. They were involved in two, the first and the second. And so the murder of this priest was the impetus for French to get involved with UK in the second one. Also in Korea, which we ju…”

France supplied_arms_to Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 32:02

“It was also used, Shanghai was used as the bridge to Chiang Kai-shek and basically supporting, they said they were neutral, but they were not. And they got involved in establishing Chiang Kai-shek in,…”

United States carried_out_attack Operation Passage to Freedom host_asserted ▶ 36:57

“to include a war just so that you can control this network. So that's where Operation Passage to Freedom comes in. It was a term used by the U.S. Navy to describe a propaganda effort and the assistanc…”

United States carried_out_attack South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 38:24

“We're going to go in and we're going to propagandize the primarily focused at the Catholics that were in the north in these archdiocese through the Catholic Church. We're going to go in there and tell…”

France carried_out_attack South Vietnam documented ▶ 39:24

“And over a million of these people did this because they were scared to death they were going to die because the Catholic infrastructure in the North had told them that's what was going to happen to t…”

1954 Geneva Agreement overthrew France documented ▶ 39:53

“The Geneva Accords of 1954 decided the fate of the French Indochina after the eight year war that had been waged. But so and again, we talked about this for anybody that's new yesterday in that after …”

United States funded France host_asserted ▶ 40:37

“What then we basically we supplied Ho Chi Minh with all of the weapons and everything prior to the end of the war. I mean, he had his own OSI OSS agents assigned to him. We learned all about that yest…”

United States supplied_arms_to Ho Chi Minh host_asserted ▶ 40:37

France carried_out_attack South Vietnam documented ▶ 41:07

“the entire country of Vietnam. They're now basically allowed to even function up in the north. They eventually, eight years later, lose the war in a humiliating defeat at Dien Bien Phu and sign the ac…”

United States funded Operation Passage to Freedom host_asserted ▶ 43:04

“There was this huge humanitarian relief effort that we paid for, our tax dollars, for absolutely no reason other than to create turmoil in the South. And they set up all kinds of tent cities for these…”

United States installed Ngô Đình Diệm host_asserted ▶ 44:03

“And in Europe. And so you have the prime minister who is a Catholic in the South that we basically installed. No, Dem, Den, Dem. His last name is D-I-E-M, Dem. And so.…”

United States funded France book_quoted ▶ 52:48

“a disastrous military adventure, which, again, was just a continuation on and on. As the Pentagon Papers reveal, U.S. military policy towards France and repossession of its colonial territories was am…”

United Kingdom headed Louis Mountbatten host_asserted ▶ 53:40

“Japanese archipelago and possession of U.S. forces commitment. And basically, we just wanted basing rights over there. That's the whole thing that we were over there for. But what I found most fascina…”

Louis Mountbatten headed United Kingdom host_asserted ▶ 54:08

“Admiral Louis Mountbatten. And we all remember him and his entire family through a lot of revelations about child pedophilia and all kinds of stuff. Well, he was who the Brits put in charge of the Sou…”

William J. Donovan member_of Franklin D. Roosevelt documented ▶ 54:37

“It says that, let's see, Roosevelt also launched the CIA, the OSS successor, headed by William, the OSS had been headed by William Donovan, enjoying close ties to Roosevelt. Donovan was instructed to …”

Allied Chief of Staff appointed United Kingdom book_quoted ▶ 57:00

“also cast for the future of post-surrender Indochina by the terms of the Potsdam Conference, where it was decided to temporarily partition Vietnam and Laos at the 16th parallel. Under this agreement, …”

Allied Chief of Staff appointed Chiang Kai-shek book_quoted ▶ 57:29

“And do you know who that Chinese forces was? Not Mao's forces, Chiang Kai-shek. So Ho Chi Minh, the northern area, was turned over basically for administrative purposes to the drug king, Chiang Kai-sh…”

Chiang Kai-shek headed South Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 57:29

Edward Lansdale member_of U.S. Air Force host_asserted ▶ 59:18

“Let's see. There was one more I wanted to get to, and that is Edward Lansdell. Now, we all know him from CIA. He pretended to be a general, but he definitely was in the CIA. And he was the assistant a…”

Edward Lansdale carried_out_attack Operation Passage to Freedom host_asserted ▶ 1:00:09

“that aided the Catholic Church in the mobilization of those people to scare the hell out of them to get them to move to the South. And that, to me, was kind of like the, you know, the final bow on the…”

Edward Lansdale member_of United Wa State Army host_asserted ▶ 1:01:30

“That's what he did. And he basically got commissioned in the army. And then he was commissioned to he was switched over to the Air Force in the aftermath. But he was never really a military officer. H…”

Edward Lansdale member_of U.S. Air Force host_asserted ▶ 1:01:30

Edward Lansdale carried_out_attack Operation Golden Lily host_asserted ▶ 1:01:48

“He was sent immediately to the Philippines, and we know why, because he had to do with Golden Lily and the securing of the gold deposits there that the Japanese had put there. And he comes up routinel…”

John F. Kennedy ordered_assassination_of Ngô Đình Diệm host_asserted ▶ 1:03:11

“from what happened after Dim's assassination. I'll go a little bit about that because there's some interesting aspects to that. And Kennedy was involved in that. Kennedy signed the findings for the CI…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of U.S. Air Force guest_asserted ▶ 1:05:47

“Colonel, I love your space probably more than any other space I've been in simply because you really do your research. So, Dad, if you want to go ahead and introduce yourself, who you are, what you've…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of U.S. Air Force guest_asserted ▶ 1:06:16

“My two brothers and myself. So my dad was drafted in World War II. He served in Alaska, Philippines, occupied Japan, came back, went to Germany, and was an artillery officer and then became an intel o…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of Germany guest_asserted ▶ 1:06:45

“This was before we had satellites and everything else. He had a produce truck coming out of Germany, going up to Russia, and they put cameras on the truck, kind of a James Bond operation, to get the t…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of Laos guest_asserted ▶ 1:07:47

“One of them is CIA and the other one is military. So people say we weren't in Laos. I've got documents to say that my dad was in Laos. Oh, yeah. We have plenty of proof that we were in Laos. I mean, t…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of Cambodia guest_asserted ▶ 1:07:47

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of U.S. Air Force guest_asserted ▶ 1:08:14

“My brother Jim flew C-130s out of Thailand in Vietnam. My brother Mike was a Naval Academy grad who served in Vietnam. They got around the Sullivan Act by having them geographically separated, but the…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of United States Navy guest_asserted ▶ 1:08:14

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of U.S. Air Force guest_asserted ▶ 1:08:43

“So, yeah, that's what I sent you, Colonel. So, anyway, I served as a combat advisor in Afghanistan. But, you know, 31 years in the military, I did a lot of things. But I'm now working for Raytheon Int…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of Raytheon guest_asserted ▶ 1:08:43

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of Indiana University–Purdue University Indianapolis guest_asserted ▶ 1:10:41

“Right. And when was this? Is this while you were in Rockies? Yeah. Yeah. So this is probably around. And where? Around. What university did you go to? I went to IUPUI in Indianapolis, which is Indiana…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of U.S. Air Force guest_asserted ▶ 1:11:10

“From 85 to 87? No, I was there 84, 85, and then I transferred to Purdue 86, 87. Okay, because I graduated from IU's Rossi Detachment in 87. No kidding. Cue incidences. Cue incidences, guys. Oh, God, w…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of U.S. Air Force guest_asserted ▶ 1:11:36

“Did you do four years of ROTC? I did not. I did not. I was prior service. And that's why when you were talking about you working, I got my AP license. I was in aircraft maintenance when I first enlist…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of San Diego guest_asserted ▶ 1:12:19

“I know Rob Hahn, and I know he's back there. Him and I, crazy story, you guys, and I don't mean to bore you since we're here for a completely different reason, but I graduated from IU, and I went to L…”

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of Los Angeles Air Force Base guest_asserted ▶ 1:12:19

Creighton Abrams headed Colonel J.R. Newman guest_asserted ▶ 1:12:51

“He's the only reason I got my commission. Well, same here. The detachment commander tried to keep me out because he didn't like prior service people. Yeah, well, yeah, I got a long story there. But an…”

William Colby headed Colonel J.R. Newman guest_asserted ▶ 1:12:51

Colonel J.R. Newman member_of Phoenix Program guest_asserted ▶ 1:13:18

“And I've got handwritten letters from both those guys talking about the work he did in Vietnam. When he got there, he was there 69 through 71. When he got there, he was the director of Phoenix Intelli…”

Colonel J.R. Newman carried_out_attack South Vietnam guest_asserted ▶ 1:14:47

“I asked him, he said that he would fly north and get the intel reports and interrogate prisoners. So I had to ask, how did you interrogate the prisoners? And he said that he would take two VC up in a …”

Sam Davis founded You Don't Lose Till You Quit Trying guest_asserted ▶ 1:22:22

“In the movie Forrest Gump, the Medal of Honor ceremony that Tom Hanks was dubbed into with Sam Davis, Congressional Medal of Honor recipient. Who did I get that harmonica from, Doug? Sam Davis. But an…”

William Westmoreland appointed Colonel J.R. Newman guest_asserted ▶ 1:23:16

“Westmoreland turns to my dad and says, Colonel Newman, meet Private Davis. Private Davis, meet Colonel Newman. Hey, Colonel Newman, take care of Private Davis. And Sammy Davis, the Congressional Medal…”

Rene DeForno member_of British Air Forces guest_asserted ▶ 1:28:38

“You spoke of the French resistance. I have another book where I met a guy, Rene DeForno, who was a French-born person that moved to Canada, was in Canada, joined the British Special Forces in World Wa…”

Rene DeForno member_of French Resistance guest_asserted ▶ 1:29:02

“and worked with the french resistance and he wrote a book called uh the winking fox and then there's the trails of the winking fox i have that autograph as it turns out my dad knew him and my dad also…”

Rene DeForno founded The Winking Fox guest_asserted ▶ 1:29:02

Operation Gladio founded North Atlantic Treaty Organization guest_asserted ▶ 1:29:58

“spread the gospel in the Middle East and China and everywhere else. And there's a lot of Christians in third world countries being martyred right now. But I don't know if they're associated with any o…”

Jim Jones founded Peoples Temple guest_asserted ▶ 1:30:49

“In my research, we came across Jim Jones, who we all think of as the Kool-Aid drinker. His church that was started, as you probably know, in Richmond, Indiana. There's something about Indiana. I don't…”

Jim Jones reassigned Peoples Temple guest_asserted ▶ 1:31:46

“Two billion dollars worth of assets in this church because he is blackmailing all of the politicians in California for God knows what. And he's vote running both in Southern California and L.A. and in…”

Operation Gladio trained Richmond Police Chief guest_asserted ▶ 1:33:06

“He ends up in Chile as the trainer of the national police in how to torture, assassinate and kidnap people from having retired as the Richmond police chief. Wow. And yeah, he's CIA as well. And I don'…”

Manny Pena member_of Office of Policy Coordination caller_asserted ▶ 1:41:33

“Okay, sorry. Can you hear me? Yes, go ahead. Yeah, I just wanted to point out, he was involved in the policing for Richmond, Indiana, where Jim Jones is from. He was involved in the CIA Office of Publ…”

Hank Hernandez member_of Office of Policy Coordination caller_asserted ▶ 1:41:33

Richmond Police Chief member_of Office of Policy Coordination caller_asserted ▶ 1:41:33

Dan Mitrione member_of Office of Policy Coordination host_asserted ▶ 1:42:53

“I know when we talked about the Office of Public Safety a long time ago when we first ran across that Mitteroni, Dan Mitteroni is his name, that we did talk about the other people that we could find t…”

Operation Linebacker carried_out_attack Vietnam War caller_asserted ▶ 1:43:19

“This has been great. And I just wanted to, I found the operation. I couldn't remember the name, so I was digging in the background. But as you're looking through your paperwork, sir, if you come acros…”

Operation Linebacker member_of Operation Gladio caller_asserted ▶ 1:44:13

“If you guys want to, I'm very familiar with linebacker. Okay. So if that's part of the Gladio, I just, you know, you guys have got me really motivated right now. So thank you. My dad, my dad wanted to…”

Phoenix Program carried_out_attack Vietnam War host_asserted ▶ 1:50:21

“We would not be able to look at it. And now we've got enough behind us, enough knowledge of these operations and how they work to be able to walk through this in an objective manner. And then, of cour…”

United States Navy trained Kodiak, Alaska guest_asserted ▶ 1:52:44

“Well, it depends on what he was doing. Kodiak, Alaska is their water survival school for a lot of the different military skill sets. Did you say he was in the Navy? Yes, ma'am. Yeah, so that's probabl…”

U.S. Air Force trained Kodiak, Alaska guest_asserted ▶ 1:56:50

“And I will get that to my son and he'll post it to this chat. So the lady that was talking earlier about ADAC Alaska and everything, there was a reason we had a bunch of people up in Alaska because we…”