Operation Gladio - Prelude to Terror Chap 5

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0:00 Well, some things never change. Did it throw you out? Yes, it did. Oh, my God. Did you see there was a brand new update? Yes. Thank you for letting me know. Yeah. Crazy, crazy. So first of all, I want to start off since it's been a few days to just kind of recap the last.

0:31 few days, the weekend, the long weekend, I'm almost at the point, not quite, of being speechless about the whole thing. The overwhelming response to what we're doing when you get to talk to people outside like my immediate little circle here is truly amazing.

1:04 When we first got to Myrtle Beach on Thursday of last week, Magadai, who has been working on our Rumble channel and creating little short clips of our massive amount of video over there so that it can be posted on TikTok and Instagram and people can spread the word that way, has collected a team.

1:31 of four or five people helping her do this. And I got to meet all of them. And that was crazy. So she had a luncheon with a whole bunch of people. And it was awesome. So on Friday, the Great America Restoration Tour conference, whatever you want to call it, meeting, gathering, started. And they had panel discussions.

2:03 And that morning, for the first time, I got to meet Alpha Warrior, which y'all have already seen the pictures. It was truly amazing. What an awesome guy. Just cannot say enough about him. And he basically sat at our table as well as Brian and Duane Kate. So we kind of just collectively hung out there. Some of the other chairs.

2:33 changed, but I do have to say something because this seems to be a reoccurring theme. One of the guys that I did not know at the beginning of the conference that sat at our table the entire several days, because some people would move around, happened to be from Sweden. And of course, that was just hilarious because, you know, at different points during our journey here, we've had large contingents of Swedish.

3:01 people helping us along the ways. And it is a Swedish guy that consolidates all of these spaces on the link on my pinned post so everybody can go find them. And they are rebroadcasting all of these spaces on a radio station over there throughout Europe. And I was telling him about that and he was just amazed. He'd been here for quite a long time as a citizen. But again, he was originally from Sweden. So we had lots of...

3:31 He had never heard about us. And so he got his ears full for the next three days and obviously is now part of our audience, whether he listens live or not. You know, I don't know what his schedule is. But anyway, there were several people there that had not discovered Operation Gladio. And what was funny is they were sitting at tables with people.

3:58 Oh, my gosh, there's Colonel Towner. She's the one that does blah, blah, blah. And so people like even Friday night and into Saturday was like, oh, my gosh, I just went and listened. So and so told me about your podcast and your spaces and blah, blah, blah. So it was just an amazing opportunity. And there are so many.

4:23 people out there, whether they, a lot of them do not listen live. A lot of them go back and listen to the replays because of the timing of this, obviously. But it is, it's kind of like getting one of the, like a, I don't know, a shot in the arm, whatever you want to call it, of energy from all of the people and their passion for the truth as well.

4:54 And so that was just an amazing experience. So it's obviously working. Many people came up and was both to Alpha and I both very appreciative of all that we have done. So good on you guys. You're definitely doing the legwork in getting the information out there, your efforts.

5:22 are obviously very effective because, and I see you guys do it every day. In the stuff that I put out with Bridget and Cousin It's Help, you guys are the army. You guys are the people that are out there reposting it and getting it its broadest viewing audience. And so just a huge pat on everybody's back. We definitely make an awesome team.

5:51 And it is at events like that, which quite frankly is why I like to go. It's not that, and I don't mean this in a derogatory way, it's not like I necessarily learn anything new there, but the conversations that occur there are very, very important. And that's...

6:20 The camaraderie, the friendships and all of that stuff is a tremendous shot in the arm as far as giving you the energy to continue the fight, because you can see the effect that it's having on people. And I had one guy come up to me Saturday night in the bar area because it was kind of like a.

6:49 We were adjourned from the actual meeting at the end of Saturday over to the bar and all of the Badlands panel people were going to be there in order to socialize with everybody. Because a lot of them on Friday night had taken off and went to dinner or whatever. And so it was really interesting. My husband referred to it as holding court.

7:18 People like Scott Zimmerman, Beer and the Parade, he has a Zoom call on Friday nights. I talked to him for months and months and months and been on his show and stuff like that, but I'd never met him in person. And so those kinds of exchanges and finally getting to actually meet the people that you've corresponded with for all of these months, if not years.

7:48 was definitely very exciting. So having said that, I'm going to jump into where we left off on Prelude to Terror. And there's a couple of things at the end that I do want to throw out there before we go to open mic, because we always want to fold everything that we're doing

8:16 Into what's actually happening on the ground right now, because obviously there's a lot of overlap there. And so we will do that kind of as a transition at the end. All right. So Chapter 5 is called The Iceman. And basically that's referring in large part to Ted Shackley. That's kind of where we left off. And this is.

8:44 during the 1968 time frame when the CIA rewarded Ted Shackley for his Laos operation by naming him the station chief in Saigon. Now, keep in mind, in 1968 is when we are like full fledged into drug running throughout the Golden Triangle. And Ted Shackley is smack dab in the middle of it. He was in his early 40s at the time.

9:14 He had ran, at that point, two of the largest stations in CIA history. He started off in Miami, which of course we know was home to the Cuban exile Operation Gladio operators and their attack on Cuba, and the reception point for a significant amount of the drugs coming into the country.

9:42 And so it's a logical follow on that he would go to the head of the snake and be moved from Miami to Saigon. And so the Saigon station was actually a part of the U.S. embassy in Saigon. Now, they say that as if it's just kind of a, you know, a point and they move on in the book.

10:08 But I think it's very important for our story to understand that in every case that I have found, the CIA is embedded in the State Department. It is embedded in the State Department's embassies around the world. Now, if you were wanting to disguise CIA operatives as...

10:36 State Department people, this obviously is the best way to do it. But at the same time, it puts every single person that goes into the embassy, which Americans do all the time in foreign countries, and all of the embassy staff that has no idea they're working next door to a CIA officer at risk. And they don't give a shit. You just need to understand that.

11:04 The fact that they are embedded together all over the world tells you there is absolutely zero difference between the State Department staff, which is where all embassy personnel goes when they rotate back into the United States. So the State Department is ran more or less like the military. You'll do an overseas tour. You'll come back for a staff tour. You'll do an overseas tour. You come back to a staff tour.

11:31 These people at the higher echelons, i.e. the ambassadors and the, you know, charge de l'affaire and all of those people in the second and tertiary levels of command in foreign embassies, all come back to desk jobs in the State Department. And they are one in the same in many cases, because we've seen like William Pauley become an ambassador and he was a CIA asset as well.

12:02 And so you would find it very difficult to go through the State Department and say you're part of the CIA, you're part of the State Department, because in many cases there's no difference. So more than 1,000 CIA agents worked out of the offices in Saigon at the height of the 1960 operation, which was basically opium running. 3,000 more agents worked in bases elsewhere.

12:34 in the country. So that's a crapload of CIA agents. And we're not talking about contractors. We're talking about actual on-the-book CIA people. All of the weaknesses Shackley had shown in his earlier assignments resurfaced in Vietnam. He demanded intelligence reports that forced case officers to concentrate on numbers rather than quality. When case officers tried to question him,

13:03 He basically gave them some like single syllable word response, which is what earned him the nickname Iceman. Shackley turned to associates from his Berlin days and his Miami days to help run the largest CIA station in the world, which became Saigon. Among them were many.

13:31 of his Cuban refugees, i.e. exiles, i.e. Operation Gladio. So they are importing their trained assassins from Miami, called Cuban exiles, into Vietnam to work for Shackley in Saigon and beyond. One of them happens to be my...

14:02 Favorite all-time Brigade 2506 guy, Felix Rodriguez, who I talk about all the time. And he also followed him first to Laos and then to Vietnam and would go on to be a prominent figure in Watergate and Iran-Contra, which we already know. Back in Miami, former Cuban employees of Shackley's were showing up with embarrassing frequencies and drug busts.

14:32 Because they're all part of a drug network. When the old Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs, it was called the BNDD, which is the precursor to the DEA, launched Operation Eagle in 1968, it found itself arresting scores of CIA employees. Among these were Cuban, quote unquote, freedom fighters.

14:57 that were using their CIA training for a life of crime. No, their training was to run drug operations. After being caught in sting operations, several of them justified their actions by claiming that they were still being used by the CIA and that their efforts was to generate funds to do covert operations against Castro, which of course is all true, by the way. Many of these men were working directly for Santos Traficani.

15:27 who the BNDD had learned now controlled significant heroin traffic in the U.S., yes, because he worked with the CIA. But although it arrested several of his deputies, the BNDD could not get the Nixon administration to go after Traficani directly, because he worked for them. By this time, Traficani was taking a serious interest in Vietnam, not long after Shackley moved to Saigon. Traficani made a tour.

15:57 of the Far East and decided to have his Hong Kong-based deputy, Frank Furci, F-U-R-C-I, first name Frank, take control of every big Saigon night spot catering to U.S. servicemen. By 1970, his Saigon-produced heroin was being sold directly to the G.I.s at these night spots. Now let me just pause here for a second. This is another pattern.

16:27 This is exactly what I described when we talk about Nugent Han and the Vietnam R&R recreation facilities that was set up by the guy by the name of Houghton, H-O-U-G-H-T-O-N, in Sydney, Australia. So they arranged week or two week.

16:58 And they would transport servicemen down to Australia that was in theater in Vietnam to give them, quote unquote, a break. And Houghton worked directly with the CIA and the people at Nugent Hand Bank from 72 on. I think it was set up. And he was the money launderer. He was in.

17:23 Vietnam. Remember, he was basically stealing from the government and reselling the shit he sold back to the government and using that money to fund covert operations. Same guy. So he set up a restaurant. Well, he was basically given a restaurant to run as a cover. And he worked with all of the mafia down in Australia to include contacts with Rupert Murdoch's crew down there.

17:52 And all of the hotels and they had like honeypot prostitution rings going on that they would blackmail servicemen with. So all of this was set up in Australia. And basically, Traficani goes over to Saigon and takes a bunch of his mafia dons with him over there and sets up the same operation in Saigon.

18:22 If you ever wonder how the people in the Department of Defense gets compromised, I'm explaining it to you now. Meanwhile, it was an open secret in Saigon that the president, who at the time was Nguyen Van Thao, who had replaced Dem after the 1963 coup, of course, were the ones that couped him, were participants in the heroin trade. Kai, which was his vice president,

18:52 One of Colby and Shackley's most frequently cited intelligence sources had been removed from Operation Haylift, which was flying commando units into Laos when U.S. officers caught him loading opium onto his plane. Now, obviously, this is hilarious because we know from what I was posting this morning about the traffic that.

19:19 The Flying Tigers and the China Lobby and all of that other stuff was using all of the aircraft over there that was registered under the CIA, Civil Air Transport and, you know, Air America and all of those to traffic opium throughout that entire theater. Another frequently cited CIA asset and Shackley source, General Dang Van Quao, and let me spell his last name or his whole name, Dang, D-A-N-G.

19:49 V-A-N, and last name Q-U-A-N-G. He was Thales, who spelled T-H-I-E-U, security advisor. And that became a point of friction between the CIA station and the U.S. military command. The military believed Quang was a major distributor of heroin to the U.S. troops, and he was.

20:20 And a former CIA case officer is the one who basically outed him as the major distributor. And he told the Saigon police chief, whose name was General Nugent, and then his middle name N-G-O-C, and his last name, it's spelled like loan, like L-O-A-N, but I think it's pronounced Loan.

20:49 In 1970, Congress estimated that a full 15% of U.S. troops in Vietnam were hooked on heroin, but Shackley would not drop Van Quine as an intelligence store. Shackley, because he wasn't actually an intelligence person, he was actually part of the network running the drugs. Shackley was even interfered with the Army criminal investigation.

21:19 And it's probe of Kai's top aide, who's General Nguyen Du, and his name is spelled N-G-O, second name D-Z-U. When the Army investigators were charged with being a major purveyor of, who the Army investigators charged with being a major purveyor of heroin in Vietnam.

21:46 So anytime the Army investigators wanted to protect the soldiers from being dealt heroin, the CIA got involved and basically blocked the investigation. The U.S. ambassador ignored the Army intelligence reports and refused to forward anything to Washington that would disclose any of the heroin network participants in Saigon or in all of Vietnam.

22:17 The reason given was that General Nonesu was an important CIA source, a source of help in dealing the heroin throughout the country. Ironically, after the war, Dews, despite being publicly called a drug dealer by a congressional panel, was allowed to immigrate and settle in the United States. So, yes, we imported.

22:46 many of the drug dealers that worked with the CIA after Vietnam into the United States. He is not the only one, much like we imported all the Nazis after World War II. We have a habit of doing this, by the way. In 1971, Congress was getting so many complaints about the GIs returning home addicted to heroin that the BNDD began to investigate it as well. It, too, immediately

23:15 ran into problems with the CIA. While the BNDD was able to close down several Thai heroin labs, again, Thailand was included in this, because remember, we spent $35 million buying off all the Thai officials in the National Police. It was prevented from operating freely in the areas of the heaviest production. When the CIA began ostensibly cooperating,

23:43 This cooperation took the form of lending some of its officers as quote unquote investigators when actually all they were doing was spying on the investigation. They never at any time was trying to help. Hold on just a second. Dogs are getting a little crazy. They're happy to see us too. We just got home this morning. By 1971, Congress was getting so many complaints about, oh, excuse me. Another of Shackley's sources was the head of the National Police.

24:22 called General Nugent Crack Ben. Let me spell his name. N-G-U-I-E-N K-H-R-A-C and the last name B-I-N-H. Shackley frequently cited Ben and other compromised sources as quote-unquote reliable sources, ignoring the fact that independent Saigon police chief General Lone, who's

24:52 Police had saved Saigon during the Tet Offensive. The CIA's concern was that Lone was the Army's chief source during their drug investigation and was basically ratting out the people that were actually working with the CIA. In Vietnam, Shackley assigned Felix Rodriguez and many of the other Cubans under the leadership of Rudy Enders, E-N-D-E-R-S.

25:20 who had also worked for Shackley in Miami. According to William Corson and others who served in Vietnam during this period, Enders ran what were politely called Provincial Reconnaissance Units. These units engaged in assassination. Enders' immediate boss was Donald Gregg. He was the CIA base chief for Region 3, which was Ben Ho.

25:50 E-N-H-O-A. Gregg would later play a key role because, remember, he was Felix Rodriguez's boss on George Bush's staff running the Contra operation. Donald Gregg became Vice President George Bush's security advisor, or as I call him, drug czar.

26:17 i.e. he was actually running the drug operation out of the vice president's operation in the Contra operation. David Morales, who was an Indian who had worked for Shackley ever since Berlin in 1950, and who had been his deputy in Laos, also moved with him to Vietnam. Morales was loyal to Shackley to a fault.

26:45 He took any assignment Shackley gave him, from blowing up buildings to ferrying money to drug lords. Shackley's Cuban also included Frank Barini, F-I-O-R-I-N-I, who later changed his name to Frank Sturgis, S-T-U-R-G-I-S. And we've come across him many times. So Sturgis was arrested in 1972 for his role in what? Watergate.

27:14 and Rafael Chichi Quintero. The Cubans' role in Laos and later Vietnam under Morales and others were what they had always been, CIA killers. Quintero and some of the other leaders played a major role in a private intelligence network that we refer to as the Enterprise. Because that's when Jimmy Carter laid off all of those CIA people and they set up all of the private intel agencies.

27:43 These men worked under the Civil Operations and Rural Development Support, which was called CORDS, C-O-R-D-S. Again, that stands for Civil Operations and Rural Development Support. CORDS was supposed to reward Vietnamese who turned in their neighbors through Project Phoenix. It's actually the Phoenix program.

28:10 This guy refers to it as Project Phoenix, but that's not actually the name of it. Phoenix turned into a massive interrogation and assassination program, which we've all covered. To receive their rewards, the South Vietnamese smoked out what they referred to as Viet Cong, but it could literally just be your neighbor that you didn't like. They captured them and then turned them in to be interrogated.

28:36 More and more, the interrogations gave way to torture and assassination. William Colby testified that 20,857 people were assassinated under Phoenix, and they were all paid for by the American tax dollars. The U.S. former Vietnamese allies actually claim that that number is much higher than even 40,000. Publicly, Shackley, the ever cautious bureaucrat, distanced himself.

29:05 after a time from the Phoenix program. Under Shackley, Saigon Station spied on its own people as well as its enemy. Colby, who was then married to his first wife, returned to Vietnam without his family from a stint back in Langley. According to retired U.S. Army Colonel Tullius Acampora, let me spell that, T-U-L-L-I-U-S is his first name,

29:35 A-C-C-O-M-P-U-R-A is his last name, who served in Vietnam alongside Colby. Colby had a girlfriend, a Vietnamese senator's wife. Shackley's colleagues soon realized that Shackley was keeping a little black book on the private lives of all of his superiors in Vietnam, including Colby and all of the senior officers, like General Creighton Abrams.

30:05 who, according to Akampura, was also involved with a Vietnamese woman. If pressed under undesirable topics by a colleague, Shackley would be warned off by mentioning any personal entanglements that he was aware of. In other words, he was the Jeffrey Epstein blackmail guy. As John Sherwood put it, he was good at letting you know he knew.

30:34 and that he had something on you. A few years later, George H.W. Bush would be the superior on whom Shackley collected personal information. Despite the fact that Vietnam represented a failure of what Shackley would refer to as speeches and writings of the third option, i.e. counterinsurgency, his career and the careers of all of those who served with him took off.

31:00 When their Vietnam service ended, Shackley, Clines, and what would become the core of the America Private Intelligence Network was beginning to come together at Langley. And I love the fact that Shackley actually referred to it as the third option because, of course, the third way, that's the book that we read. I mean, that is a reoccurring theme as well.

31:24 Shackley returned to CIA headquarters in February 1972 and found many of his former colleagues from the efforts to assassinate Castro now targeting other Latin American leader. This time it was Salvador Allende, Chile's freely elected president. Since Castro had backed Allende, he was now a prime, quote unquote, communist. The CIA management under the director of...

31:53 Central Intelligence Richard Helms, from 66 to 73, had thoroughly botched an attempt to prevent Allende from coming to power in the first place because, you know, we went over all of that. They sabotaged everything there. Despite plea from the American ambassador, Edward Corey, K-O-R-R-Y, to Henry Kissinger, the CIA had thrown its lot in with the extreme

32:21 terrorist general in a coup attempt behind the ambassador's back. Once elected, Allende about the CIA's involvement, and he publicly tied the failed coup back to the CIA, exposing the names of the CIA assets, not just in Chile, but all over Latin America. The failed Chilean adventure and Helms' refusal to cooperate with the Nixon White House on Watergate brought the CIA directors

32:51 to an end. Helms feared that Nixon's political tampering with the CIA could damage the agency. That's hilarious. His refusal to cooperate with the White House in the Watergate cover-up ended with his resignation. Helms and his colleagues had grown so distrustful that a number of the agency operations were directed at the White House, including an operation involving the White House quote-unquote plumbers.

33:20 which of course is our infamous Cuban exiles. A high-level CIA official, John Arthur Paisley, was appointed agency liaison to the plumbers. The firing of Helms in February 1973 and the chaos that followed left a vacuum in the bureaucratic infighting like Shackley thrived. Nixon replaced Helms with James Schlesinger.

33:49 because he felt that his orders were not being carried out in Chile. And keep in mind that ITT, PepsiCo, and Freeport Mining had all paid Nixon to overthrow Allende. Schlesinger came from the Department of Defense, where one of his top deputies for procurement was a guy by the name of Eric von Marbod, M-A-R-B-O-D.

34:17 and his first name is spelled E-R-I-C-H. With Von Marbad's endorsement, Shackley, fresh from Vietnam, was assigned to pick up the pieces of the coup plotting in the Directorate of Plans. Shackley worked in Operation Mongoose, made him the perfect candidate for what Nixon had in mind for Chile. Shackley went to work quickly, replacing operatives with those who had been exposed to Cubans.

34:45 that he had recruited for Operation Mongoose. Shackley's team was being ready for a new effort to overthrow the Chilean government. On September 12, 1973, half a year after Helms left, although, let's see, Allende's economy was collapsing. Now, this is interesting because I want to bring this to you guys' attention. We know what happened in Chile. We know that the U.S. marshaled every effort that they had to block the harbor.

35:17 that there was civil unrest. They had unions agitating people in the streets. They were diverting ships. They refused to give them IMF loans. And so they basically were starving the Chilean people. But this author has not done his homework because this is how he phrases it. Although Marxism had failed miserably in Chile, Allende's economy was collapsing of its own weight.

35:46 That is absolutely not true. And that's why it's so important that you read multiple books on this, because if you just read this book, again, these are CIA people telling their own story. The State Department had launched all-out war in conjunction with the covert war the CIA is waging to starve the Chilean people.

36:16 and overthrow the government. The State Department, the Department of Commerce, all of them went to war with Chile. They just never told the American people. Shackley's Western Division orchestrated with the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, yet another coup. This time they used a man who was a friend of Allende's, Augusto Pinochet Ugarte.

36:47 And of course, we know him as Pinochet, who ends up in charge of Chile after they overthrow the government. Allende was so badly fooled that on the morning of the coup, he told supporters that Pinochet, his Masonic brother, would save the popular unity government. When he learned the truth, Allende, still in the presidential palace, as it burned,

37:14 the author says, shot himself, but he did not. He was murdered. What came next in a military dictatorship that engaged in every form of torture, the CIA helped train Pinochet's secret police, the dreaded DINA, D-I-N-A, and suggested that DINA hire Shackley's Cubans. After the September coup, the DINA and the CIA worked in close cooperation for several years.

37:45 In 1973, Shackley was made head of the CIA's East Asia Division, where, working with the Pentagon, he oversaw America's defeat in Vietnam. Eric Van Marbog, by that time, was Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense. He was sent to Saigon with Shackley in the mid-1974s to get control of the hemorrhaging military assistant budget.

38:11 Another point that has to be made, because this is going to be important for what's going on right now. Notice the free flow from State Department, CIA, and DOD. So you cannot go into the Department of Defense and think those people only are Department of Defense, because many of those people are from the State Department over in the Department of Defense. They go back to the State Department. They do tours.

38:41 I mean, how many times has the deputy CIA director been a military person? Multiple, multiple, multiple times. So there's no difference in any of these entities. Von Marbog made his reputation as a trusted Pentagon bureaucrat when Congress accepted his personal assurance that he had forgotten that he had gotten spending under control in the last year of the war. Schlesinger.

39:11 who had returned to the Pentagon as well from being the CIA director, he was replaced at the CIA by William Colby, who was fresh out of Vietnam. He sent Von Marburg back to Saigon as his top logistics aide to prepare for the abandonment of South Vietnam. Given just a few days,

39:36 Von Marbog was in charge of getting as much military hardware out of the country as possible. And you know what? They only give them a couple of days because their real intent is to leave that shit there and then sell it on the covert, just like they did in Afghanistan. Another pattern. Trying to block him were the American ambassador Graham Martin and Shackley's successor, the Hungarian-born CIA current station chief in Saigon.

40:06 Thomas Polgar, P-O-L-G-A-R. They suffered from the illusion that a peaceful settlement could still be reached, and they feared that the U.S. would destroy the Saigon government's morale by pulling out. To von Marbog's credit, he knew that neither the ambassador nor Polgar had a clue about what was really going on. Von Marbog ignored Martin's protests and threats to destroy his career if he pulled the equipment out.

40:37 At Binh Ho, he risked his own life to get equipment evacuated from the base while it was being attacked. Like Shackley, Von Marbog made his reputation despite the failure of American policy in Vietnam. Now, let me read this last thing and I'm going to comment on this. The war in Vietnam had been good for the careers of Wilson Secord, Shackley, Clines, and Von Marbog.

41:04 As they return to Washington, D.C. in new and more important positions, the bonds that they had forged over these years would be a profound effect on the future of U.S. foreign policy. And that is, in fact, true. But, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. They are going to weave into the story some facets of, quote-unquote, heroism.

41:33 As if saving some of the equipment in Saigon was in any way heroic after they had just murdered, you know, 50,000 people. So it's just, it's crazy. The whole story is crazy. But that's chapter five. So we are going to cover what I think is one of the most fascinating stories.

42:04 in the next chapter, which we will do tomorrow, we get back into with a, again, an inside look of Edwin Wilson, who, as we all know, he was the guy who was supposedly shipping arms to Gaddafi. And he had the front company of Task Force 157 for the Navy and all those other things. But he was working.

42:34 For the CIA, he later gets crosswise with the CIA and they send him to prison. And there's some interesting insight into that whole deal in this book that I'm excited to share with you guys. And we'll go over that tomorrow. Bridget, go ahead. And while you were speaking, I was doing a little bit of research and I came up with something.

43:02 You were talking about the leftover, and that is one of the big things they do to money launderers, leave behind these equipment. Now, back in, this was written in May 13th, 1975, and I posted it up above. It says, Hanoi said to have two billion, that's with a B, in 1975 in serviceable captured U.S. arms.

43:30 According to the Department of Defense said today, about two billion worth of serviceable military equipment had fallen into the hands of the North Vietnamese. And it goes on to say, blah, blah, that Aaron Von Marbad, a deputy assistant director of defense who had just returned from an inspection trip to South Asia, said that it was.

43:59 Now thought that 52 billion of the equipment and facilities abandoned by the South Vietnam forces were serviceable and could be used by the North Vietnamese. And what was that last figure? 52 billion with a B. B. Billion dollars. And that was in 1975. Yeah. Yeah. That tells you.

44:32 exactly what, I mean, obviously that makes the point, that a lot of this is done and fought over the ability to leave all of this shit for them then to money launder. And it says, let's see, it, let's see.

45:03 The $2 billion would be worth today $12 billion. And that's just the $2 billion. That's not the $50 billion. Right, right. Yeah. 300 aircraft, 300 naval craft, grenade launchers, rifles, $40 million worth of just ammunition. Yeah, it sounds exactly what we just did in Afghanistan.

45:30 And then they sell that stuff on the black market and use it for their own corporate operations. So they take what they want, they sell the rest, they generate black funds, and they march on along. Stella, go ahead. Because Bridget brought that up. So is this standard protocol with what they do, like after the Vietnam that apparently they did? I mean, did they do that with Iraq and the other places? That's what they did. Oh, wow.

45:59 And every single one of these incidents, there is equipment that is left over that supposedly just gets left. But if you realize that in all of these cases that there are still CIA operatives in the area, like we didn't just actually leave when the embassy fell. For years after that, we were still in Laos and Cambodia and Thailand.

46:29 So, yeah, no. And you've got, again, Taiwan right across there, right? So Taiwan is where all of the drugs were going to for processing. So Taiwan has its own Navy, thanks to William Polly, has its own aircraft, thanks to William Polly. It's just a nice thing to be able to say that it got taken by the enemy when, in fact, you have no verification of that at all.

47:02 Right. They could have just I mean, just as easily shipped it over to wherever they were wanting to funnel money to. Right. Well, they'll ship it over where they can actually store it so that they can use it on the black market to sell or use themselves in operations. So, yeah. And so that takes me to the other part of what I wanted to talk about as we transition to open mics. And that is the current thing that is.

47:31 going on right now in all of the discussions of the money being funneled to the Taliban. This seems to be a hot topic right now, and I want to make sure that everybody understands a couple of points about that, and then you can make of it what you will. The Taliban, in its original form, was the organization that stopped

48:01 like down to zero, the opium production in Afghanistan. Okay. They put a screeching halt to opium farming. And in the interim time, they had switched their entire economy. They had vineyards. They had all kinds of different products that were being farmed and sold out of Afghanistan, not opium.

48:32 And then, of course, as soon as we go back into Afghanistan, that's all overturned. They're back in the opium business. It skyrockets. It's tens of billions of dollars. And now we are being told a story that we are sending money to the Taliban on a weekly basis. I don't know what the real story is, but there's something.

49:04 very off about that story because it is not consistent with any historical facts. So you have to be very careful about listening to a story because generally speaking, whatever the initial story is, it's not the actual story that's true. So I'm just going to caution you guys to take

49:32 All of that information is being sent around with a grain of salt until we can get some additional information because it definitely is not consistent. Now, does that mean that the Taliban has not been compromised, infiltrated and taken over by the CIA? Absolutely not. That's completely a possibility. This entire thing could be a money laundering operation where.

49:58 The CIA is now hurting for money because many of their avenues for getting money has been shut down. And so is the U.S. press telling us that this money is going to the Taliban and when it's really actually going to CIA operatives over there? Absolutely a possibility. That's the same thing with Ukraine. All of that money that's quote unquote missing, it's not missing. That's a money laundering operation. And so all of this.

50:26 sucking out of our well into the hands of these black covert operations has picked up speed because they see their world coming to an end. And it's likely to come to a screeching halt and there's likely to be some fireworks associated with that. So I'll just say that.

50:54 Anybody else want to make a comment? Nope, I'm good. Anybody else want to come up? You got questions? I just have a statement. These motherfuckers need to go. They seriously do. I mean.

51:16 The Afghanistan thing, honestly, I didn't know that they were leaving equipment and stuff like that. I figured, I mean, I knew that there'd be some things, you know, that disappeared or whatever. But I had no idea that they were purposely leaving the stuff behind to go on to the black market. I mean, the Vietnam thing is just beyond mind-blowing. You know, it's insane. And it's still going on today, you know, with the repercussions from the past. That's just insane.

51:45 So that's kind of I mean, obviously, seller, that's kind of like the biggest tee up ever. That is the exact reason why I think the conversation about Operation Gladio is so critically important right now. It's not. Certainly, I have better things to do, but I just have this overwhelming.

52:13 And I pray about this all the time, just so that you guys know. I have this overwhelming feeling that all of the exposure that is going to be kicked off in the next several years is better understood with a framework of what our real history is. And I have not came across in all of my years of reading nonfiction a better framework.

52:43 That reveals more of the real truth than understanding Operation Gladio. Because again, and I got this feedback all weekend. Once you understand it, it literally changes your entire way that you view the world. Bridget, go ahead. And Stellar, I hate to throw gasoline on a fire, but I posted just above us.

53:15 the pill or whatever um are in the nest that we also in it because i was pretty sure yeah we left pallets and pallets of millions of dollars not just equipment and so on of course um it was widely documented and um no one has ever said this is one of those things they do not want you to talk about

53:43 We didn't just leave equipment and military. It was pallets that were flown in there right before. And then we pulled out. Just like the movie War Dogs. They show it in there where they have $12.6 billion or whatever in that room when they were selling the Berettas. I think that was the number. If anyone hasn't seen that movie War Dogs, it's pretty awesome. It's about the Iraq war.

54:08 Yeah, and it's also the technology that we're leaving behind that they didn't have before either, let alone the fact that they're weapons. So you're basically escalating the game for these sand dwellers over there. Well, it's not even to the sand dwellers. It's to the other CIA ops that are the stay-behinds that are just going to cause more chaos. Yes. I don't for one minute believe that that went to the enemy. Not one minute do I believe that. Did some of it? Potentially.

54:38 The majority of it went black. Probably in Ukraine. Well, they have to have money to train their radio operatives that they were planning on sending it here. It's just sending abroad, sending anywhere in Taiwan.

55:09 If you go back and you look at the money that went through Nugent Hand and BCCI, the combination of the two, you're probably close to, if not well in excess of trillions of dollars. And the use of that was multifaceted. Now, it costs money to bribe politicians. It costs money.

55:38 to run these fake businesses. It costs money for all of the covert supplies, logistics, aircraft, blah, blah, blah. So you're talking a multi tens of billions of dollars a year, secret off the books, intelligence operations slash covert military slash covert political entity.

56:07 that has operated for, I mean, 80 years now. And the cost of that is just crazy. And so they've been kind of juggling this operation through all of this time. And a very small amount of it has ever went through appropriated channels.

56:35 Obviously, in the time frame when they created the National Endowment for Democracy and the International Republican Institute and all of those things that they did was a transitioning of some of the covert elements into appropriated funds. And they also began transferring much of the covert operations into.

57:04 what they refer to as non-governmental organizations. However, when you start tracing the money, the majority of the quote unquote NGOs are actual governmental organizations because they're almost exclusively funded through grants from the national government. And so that's a big misnomer. If you're an NGO, you should never be able to get a penny from the U.S. taxpayer, to say the least.

57:34 Much of this has been a sleight of hand that I see coming to a crashing halt very soon. ISO 20022. Yeah. I love it when you do that, Stellar. What was that? I said I love it when you do that, Stellar. When you just pop off with the exact executive number or, you know.

58:09 It is. Everything here is so connected to you. Well, and I think that's exactly what we're talking about. All of this stuff in the past is definitely connected to today. Right. Exactly. And, you know, it is so obvious, just like I had one of the posts that I post. I don't post very often. I repost a lot.

58:37 When you have those glasses on, you see that repeat, rinse, wash, repeat, rinse, wash, repeat. And as soon as you see these things starting to line up, you know exactly what's going to happen next. Now, that does not mean it's going to happen. Oftentimes, their plans do get spoiled. What is your opinion, if I can ask, Colonel, on what?

59:07 About the Biden administration authorizing Ukraine and I believe France and what the other country was also telling Ukraine that they need to use long range missiles. Well, actually, what they didn't say you needed to. They said you could.

59:28 So, first of all, let me just say I just did the calculations of that other sum. That's almost half a trillion dollars in cash that you were just talking about, Bridget. Just in today's. If that was done today, it would be half a trillion dollars. So that's the same equivalent as to what they left there. I wonder what half a trillion dollars could do if we use that to rebuild, I don't know, North Carolina. Well.

59:54 But keep in mind that that money being left there and shipped in in pallets does not mean that that was left to Ho Chi Minh. That just means that was just another laundering operation of money that didn't get to where it needed to get and was probably, although it was quote unquote discovered, it may have been discovered and information got published about it.

1:00:23 When in fact it was picked up the next day by one of the covert elements. Okay. So about what's going on today, I believe, and I know there's all kinds of different opinions about whether it's real or it's people pushing to the brink to wake people up. I understand that whole conversation.

1:00:53 not going to refer to that in what I'm about to say. I just want to acknowledge that there's a lot of people that believe that. This is NATO doing this and should not be looked at as the US, France, or Germany, or the UK as doing this. This is NATO who wants more than anything.

1:01:21 to have Ukraine under its spell because it is evil, and they will do anything to include dropping these quote-unquote anonymous sources and all this other stuff to push us to the brink because what they really want is they want to provoke Russia.

1:01:49 in a forced error in order to be able to, what they believe, sucker us all into another ground war. And they see their window of opportunity closing and the rhetoric is going to exponentially, until January 20th, continue to be ratcheted up.

1:02:17 They're going to do an all-out sprint to provoke World War III. What we have to do is make sure that we understand that's exactly what they're trying to do and not emotionally get hooked into their rhetoric. Because this is very much NATO seeing the handwriting on the wall. They're going to go away and they're never going to get Ukraine.

1:02:44 And they will do whatever necessary in order to try to make that happen in the next two months and force Russia into committing an unforced error. Now, that does not mean that if some dumbass launches a missile into Russia, you can bet that they've got all of their...

1:03:08 resources deployed to know exactly where it comes from, and they will not hesitate to react. And at no time should a tit-for-tat reaction to someone who kills Russians be mistaken for, and it will immediately be talked about as a quote-unquote unprovoked attack.

1:03:34 which we all know in this audience that that's not true. They are trying to create any opportunity for a false flag to happen. And in order to make a false flag plausible, you have to keep edging up the tension so that you bring somebody right to the brink of a tension. Then you stage the false flag. Everybody's already on pins and needles. Then you can use that emotional buildup, which is what this was.

1:04:04 In order to justify any response at all. We're just not going to play into that anymore. Well, and that was what I wanted to ask is if you think that, for lack of a better word, Ukraine would bomb Ukraine in an attempt to blame it on Russia? Oh, absolutely. Okay. Yeah. Just so that everyone, you know, I know everybody's been with us. Most of you guys have been with us since the beginning.

1:04:36 But in case you aren't aware of the false flag, that is what a false flag is. This would be setting up a prime opportunity to do that by running this type of narrative. And what would happen is it would appear that some element of Ukraine actually did launch a missile and then it would be another Ukrainian location that would in fact attack.

1:05:05 a Ukrainian location as a quote unquote Russian response using some type of known Russian armament in order to basically try to say that Russia did it. And or they could just actually, you know, do a quote unquote preemptive strike with it being Ukraine on Ukraine attack and try to couch it as something that Russia did as a preemptive strike. So.

1:05:35 All of those things are plausible. We've seen all of them happen in our research as far as Operation Gladio goes. Just going to have to keep our eyes and ears open for the potential of this kind of stuff to happen. Like they did with the MH17 and MH370 and so on. Well, definitely MH17. Yeah.

1:06:06 Molly, did you have something that you wanted to say? Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Okay. I think I'm breaking. Sounds like you're in the shower. Or driving. I'm going with driving, Trump Rock. You never know in spaces. Remember when Vivek was in the X-Base and he was just basically taking a piss literally in the space and just lopped it off?

1:07:10 Yes, I remember. One of the most epic moments, by the way, of this election cycle. Unbelievable how smooth he was about it. Because we've seen other hosts, no names being mentioned, that have done that repeatedly. You've done that? Not me. Or other things much worse. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. I was going to say, Oklahoma City bombing was another one of those operations as well.

1:07:40 in its own right, at least our government doing it to herself. Yes. Yeah, well, we've had plenty here. That's for sure. Yeah, so I got a question for you then. Do you, well, I guess you were talking about it, you know, I'm obviously trying to work, but do you think that they are going to attack themselves to try to get us in this place with their own missiles? But wouldn't it be trackable how the, where it came from and where it's going to? Can't they track that?

1:08:12 Yes, it's definitely trackable. But who controls the intelligence? The unintelligent people in our government? Yeah. So the only way that that would be exposed is if Russia produces the intelligence because the rest of them are all compromised. So therein lies the problem where they've already demonized Russia as being, you know, and that's the whole beauty of their operation.

1:08:42 Just like in the past where they demonize someone as being a communist and therefore anything that comes out of their mouth is communist doublespeak and you are to discount it 100 percent of the time. And so by demonizing Russia, when Russia tells on NATO, it's their automatic discounting of that because it's coming from, quote unquote, Russia. And so they have done a very good job in their propaganda war.

1:09:11 in getting people to discount any truth by demonizing the source, which we have seen play out repeatedly here in the United States with COVID, Trump. I got to tell you, because this is the perfect segue into that. That whole thing this morning, the news cycle about Mika and Joe going to Mar-a-Lago.

1:09:39 And meeting with Trump. And if you listen to their own words, characterization of it, saying that, well, we don't see eye to eye on most issues, but there definitely needs to be a dialogue. I'm thinking to myself, holy shit, that sounds like, you know, him over in South Korea or North Korea or.

1:10:04 Putin or something saying like that. That is not anything that a news organization in the United States would ever say. You don't have a fucking opinion. Your job is to report news. It is not to have common agreement on particular issues. You're supposed to be reporting the news. I thought it was a hostage video like it was the ISIS captured people. Oh, my God. It was so crazy.

1:10:34 Listen to their characterization. I'm like, you are not supposed to be hostile foreign government who is trying to negotiate with a new president on foreign policy, you morons. You call yourself as being news and you are talking like you're trying to negotiate a peace settlement.

1:11:00 Well, Mika's dad, he didn't go and negotiate with anybody. He directed terror stuff. No, I know. I mean, I know you know, but people that don't know who her dad is, he was totally, you know, a Gladio agent in every way. But to me, I loved it. It was a hostage video. They looked really, really just kind of like.

1:11:23 We have no choice. It was beautiful, even though they tried to on the back end. It was kind of like, well, I'm not going to bring up the issues this weekend, but it was kind of like kind of like acquiescing and getting defensive and saying, but. I mean, it really came across as they are working for a foreign entity and negotiating a peace settlement with the newly elected.

1:11:49 president, not like they're supposed to be an independent news organization just reporting the news. To me, there could not have been anything more revealing than that entire situation. Well, the best part is there's a huge lawsuit against that network. So they have to pretend like they're playing ball because they're going to lose their lawsuit 100%. I think they're going to be shut down and lose their license like CBS.

1:12:17 Isn't it going to be beautiful when it turns out that during discovery, they find all this funky stuff and everything because discovery, they have to open up the records, you know, and just love the blockchain. That's why they're going to settle. They won't go to trial because discovery approved, they colluded with our government to basically sedition. It already says at 13848, foreign interference in election, sedition and treason.

1:12:44 The media is just as involved as all the other people that are on the know. It's such a beautiful thing. Oh, my God. You know, the other aspect of that is all of their other peers that all felt like they were on the same team, although it's a foreign team. They felt like they all collectively could. They were like in the Brigade 2506, right?

1:13:10 So we have a media version of Brigade 2506, and it was attack Trump, it was attack Trump, and it was attack Trump. And you had two defectors in the last 24 hours go grovel to Trump. Can you imagine the panic of all of the rest of the 2506 media brigade? And what the fuck did they tell him?

1:13:39 Because you know that Mika and Joe was part of the 4 a.m. CIA talking points to media, right? And so they know. Oh, yes. Yes, they know who all is on that phone. And they're all thinking all day today, what the hell did they say? I love it. Kerry, go ahead. Russia, Russia, Russia. They know they're going to Gitmo.

1:14:10 Yeah, I love it. Carrie, go ahead. Yeah, so Glenn Greenwald said that before Joe wanted to be his VP and Trump didn't allow. They used to have Trump on their show all the time. Yeah. That's what Glenn Greenwald said.

1:14:40 And so Joe hated him because he didn't let him be the VP, which is hilarious. But I wanted to warn against just assuming that what the government tells you is your enemy is your enemy. Because I've met people in Afghanistan. They aren't my enemy. But the people that are the elites in Britain are.

1:15:09 They absolutely are my enemy forever. I think we've proven that here, that anybody that we have been told in the past is an enemy most likely is not. And anybody that we have been told are freedom fighters are most likely terrorists. I think we've unequivocally proven that here. That's why I go after people that always go, it's the Jews. Well, no, it's not. It's a government of corrupt people. It's not the citizens who happen to live there that are the same victims we are of our own government. Correct.

1:15:41 That's pretty well said. I've gone after people that use that argument because it's tired to me. Correct. And that's the reason why we are very cautious or not cautious is not the right word. We're very particular about because that's the one thing that, you know, I see all day is people say something about it's the Americans doing basically what the CIA is doing. No, no.

1:16:10 Because 99% of the Americans don't even know what the fuck the CIA has been doing in our name. And I mean, despite how much we talk about Operation Glass, still today, 99% of them don't know. And so you can't wipe with a wide brush the citizenry of this governmental or international syndicate that has been doing crimes all over the world. It's not one religion. We've unequivocally proven that.

1:16:39 It is not one country. We've said that and proven it. And so it's going to change when all of us confront all of them. And we have to start.

1:16:58 I think, with the elephant in the room, which happens to be the United States. And I think that's why you had Mr. Truth Bomb when he was telling you, as far as Ireland and all of the rest of them, you know, Australia, I know Guru talked about that, that they're all waiting for us to get our shit straight because we are the elephant in the room. We're the ones that can get rid of NATO. We're the ones that can hold the rest of the people in check. And until we get our shit straight.

1:17:26 No one else stands a chance. And so this is going to be the beginning of a worldwide effort to disband and get rid of not only the international syndicate, but all of the paramilitary and the apparatus that it has set up over the last 80 years. So kudos to us.

1:17:52 Yeah. And if if what they're doing is so fabulous and perfect and great, why can't they tell us about it? Why can't they just, you know, reveal how great they are? Oh, no, we have to classify that. Well, I'm still laughing about the Caltrans money from California to Lima. And I saw that Bridget put that up in the.

1:18:18 up in the nest. And so the CIA coop agent, as soon as I saw that thing on Saturday, I was like, oh my gosh, they're still doing, you know, this disclosure is really nice, you know, because it seems like these types of news things that are happening, you know, we're starting to see them where in the past we were so censored that we didn't get to see it. So everybody repost.

1:18:40 Colonel Towner's space is in her rumble channels because we got to get people awake to this crap so that, you know, we got to get it all cleared out. I mean, the Pentagon had that huge amount of money that they can't, you know, seven times in an audit and they still can't find that 800 plus billion dollars, you know, and I'm sure there's more than that. You know, what was it? The central banks also last week. I mean, there's so much disclosure and shenanigans that is now being.

1:19:06 you know, thank you, Elon. But also because of the Gladio glasses. And this is the only way that we're going to be able to spread it if people understand it, you know, because I did see like over the weekend, people were talking about the color revolutions and the color coups or whatever they called them and stuff. And it's like Operation Gladio, International Syndicate. So, you know, we got to get people to start understanding that this system that is very vile, it is getting cleaned out. It is going to take time.

1:19:36 We've got to learn the truth, and this is the only way we're going to be able to do it. I'll yield. Tim, go ahead. Colonel, thanks for your time. I just want to point out that you're a wealth of information. I've enjoyed listening. And your position with the CIA and the intelligence community are at the forefront of this. If you even look back by your own timing schedules, say, of late 1890s or so.

1:20:08 It it runs parallel with the Bank of England and the Rothschilds, the financial control. I watched a video a while back. All wars are bankers wars. So, you know, I agree with everything you said and I confirm some of your timelines. And but I'm telling you, these guys work for the bankers. There's bankers definitely involved, but it's not just bankers.

1:20:39 You know, like I said earlier, you kind of have a very interesting combination of the old moneyed families like the Merdises in Italy, the Wallenbergs in Sweden. And then you have a combination of all of the industrialists like the Rockefellers and the Carnegies and the Kaisers that.

1:21:08 What we found, at least in the United States, is they all owned a bank. So you can, in fact, say that they were bankers, but that's not the primary source of their income. That was to money launder their money. They also owned an insurance company, and then they all had some primary source of income in an industrial capacity, like aluminum mines or steel or...

1:21:35 something of that nature, gold mines, mining companies, you know, or shipping. They all had some type of industrial might that was their kind of cover, if you will, as to their operational. And then they spread that industrial might around like General Electric and J.P. Morgan.

1:22:03 The people that were behind the scenes in doing all of this had set up a, they all owned an insurance company so that no matter what they did, they were siphoning off our money to settle their quote unquote insurance claims, not unlike on 9-11. And so all of them have some very interesting characteristics about them, but banking was just one of many of them.

1:22:33 Leon, go ahead. Thank you for having me here. I wish I knew about you guys way sooner because I'm loving everything that's been talked about in that. You're cutting out, Leon. Can you hear me now? Yeah. Oh, okay. It's my voice. I have a tendency to start loud and then start softening. Okay.

1:23:07 Really appreciate being here. I wish I found you guys a lot sooner. Loving everything that you guys are saying. Posted in the comments some linkage. I have one question. Sure. Do you guys think we should do something about government officials actually stepping out of position, resigning before they can actually get an investigation going? Because it seems like...

1:23:36 It really seems like with Trump, when he left presidency, when they wanted to hold him accountable for a bunch of bullshit, they tried to make it sound like they had the power to do it. But it doesn't seem like they really like to reflect that back on themselves. And to me, to resign and still get some type of pension or something is really just making a bunch of richer people.

1:24:05 Yeah, a lot of these government officials have resigned richer and then they can still do all their schemes and everything in the background. So that's not going to happen. Let me just assure you that any government official that resigns that committed treason as part of the government will be held accountable. And being a civilian.

1:24:30 Doesn't matter whether you work for the government or whether you're retired from the government or whether you're went to work for another organization. As a civilian, if you are guilty of treason and you are found guilty of treason, your work status in or out of the government makes no difference at all. So that's number one. Number two.

1:24:55 If you are in the military and like Millie and you have retired, you, as long as you are drawing a paycheck from the United States government, can be recalled to active duty and court-martialed. Anything that you do that is contrary to law, I mean, we just saw it happen with a guy who was convicted of pedophilia, and I believe it was in Texas.

1:25:24 As a retired officer, he was recalled to active duty. He was court-martialed and busted down to like Airman Basic or whatever it was that I don't remember the exact rank. But he basically lost everything. You forfeit your retirement if you are ever convicted of certain felonies. And treason is definitely one of those felonies. So I believe.

1:25:52 That there is a mechanism. You're right, Leon, from the perspective that there has never been a will to hold people accountable because the people that were holding people accountable were guilty of the same damn thing. The only time anybody was ever held accountable in the past was if you pissed somebody off like Edwin Wilson. When he pissed off the establishment, he was done away with. When William Colby pissed everybody off.

1:26:22 He's gotten rid of. That's what they do. So you're not going to ever get accountability out of the head crook. They're putting people in that are not dirty. They're putting people, and that's why they're screaming so loud. They tried to get Matt Gaetz and couldn't. They tried to get Trump and couldn't. They tried to get all of these people and couldn't. They are putting in a cabinet that is not crooks.

1:26:51 And once that non-blackmailable cabinet gets installed, the accountability is going to come fast and furious. And as it does, there's going to be a lot of gnashing of teeth. But in the past, like I said, you can't get accountability when you have a crook as the AG. It's just a matter of scale. And it's like, remember, you probably don't because you're new, but we tell the story about...

1:27:20 Richard Nixon's quote-unquote war on drugs, actually what it was, was they were taking out the competition. They went over to France and basically assassinated 400 Corsican mafia dons that were running the drug trades with the number four grade heroin refinement labs out of the Golden Triangle. So they knocked them all off and moved the entire operation down to Sicily.

1:27:48 And in doing that, supposedly you would have thought because they claim credit for knocking out all of these drug lords, you would have thought the drugs into the United States would reduce itself. But it didn't. It went up five times because now the CIA controlled it all. And all they did was open the floodgates. And so over the course of the next several years, the opium, heroin, whatever, into the United States, like.

1:28:17 whatever the quadruple, whatever the number is for five, it went up five times into the United States as far as the amount of heroin. And so there was never a war on drugs. There was a war on the competition for the CIA's drug trafficking. And it's the same thing with Noriega and the entire cartel out down in Colombia. They only take out their competitors or their...

1:28:43 when their assets decide that they're going to go rogue on them. Noriega was found creating some of his own back channel operations, had to be taken out. Same thing with all of the rest of them. Go ahead, Leon. It's so true. I've been doing a lot of studying, like from the early 90s. I was born in the late 80s. And I actually...

1:29:10 Well, with the CIA and Feds, I thought it was pretty peculiar whenever somebody was underneath an investigation for anything related to drugs. They sort of just stepped in and tried to sweep it underneath the carpet, like with the Clinton administration, when the MENA investigations were going on. They were also investigating military suicides from people that was trying to whistleblow.

1:29:35 I posted links on that because my Uncle Martin was actually one of the people that tried to whistleblow and somehow killed himself being hogtied and beaten and everything else. Wow, I hear that. It really pissed me off. We're talking about all this accountability and campaigns and all that, and I'm loving that the cabinets are actually being full. If I remember correctly,

1:30:04 When Trump was last in, they did everything possible to keep him from filling cabinets. And I don't think he actually got to finish filling up the cabinet positions. Am I correct? They did make it very difficult because Mitch McConnell decided they were never going to go on recess for him to be able to make recess appointments. So they drug out the entire thing the entire time he was president. Yes. And so they have a completely different strategy this time.

1:30:31 And of course, because Pence was VP, he never took over the Senate like he could have. And J.D. is not going to do that. He is already on record saying that there will be recess appointments, whether they like it or not. So we have a completely different thing that's coming in in January, and it's going to be like a frickin cyclone. I am so excited. The storm is coming, people. Stellar, go ahead.

1:31:03 So ready. Right. I know that they had the constitutional one, but there was also another one that was a backup that was discussed this morning. And I can't remember what it was, but there's two things. If by chance there's any issues that go on with this. So it was pretty much a big F you to them. Yeah. Yeah. Federal. I saw that. Federal. Some kind of. And it actually had to do with.

1:31:32 But spilling vacancies, essentially, he doesn't necessarily need Congress approval, correct? Yeah, it has to do with the Federal Vacancy Act. Something about, yeah, I don't remember the exact name of it, but that's for the lower level cabinet, you know, political appointees, but not necessarily the cabinet level that have to be confirmed.

1:32:01 There's basically kind of like two categories. They're still considered political appointees, but they don't have to be confirmed. And then there's the other pot of the ones that they say are supposed to be confirmed. But that's even going to be litigated, I believe, because if you go back to the original language of why they say they have to be confirmed, it's all basically a lie. There is no actual confirmation legally.

1:32:30 that you have to do. It was basically a notification that was being done under the guise when we still had like the 17th Amendment had not been passed and the president would get advice from the senators from a particular state when they were doing particular actions or appointing people.

1:32:59 to federal offices because the state senators or the federal senators were appointed by the state legislatures and therefore represented the state's interest. And so if they were going to nominate a judge or something like that to work inside of the state, they asked the senator's opinion. They didn't have to go with it, but they asked their opinion. So then once that changed and the

1:33:27 with the 17th Amendment and the senators were then nationally elected, they kind of collectively assumed that role in Washington, D.C., which it was never meant to be that way at all. Another bastardization of our republic. Stellar, go ahead. OK, so with that being said, there was also.

1:33:50 Now I just had a brain fart. Give me a few minutes. When it comes back, I'll stick my hand back up. But it has something to do with what you were talking about. And it was another question. But give me a few minutes and it'll come to my head. About the appointments of the civilians in the two different pots. And so generally speaking, once you have like the DOJ and his deputy and the assistant deputy, so like the top three people would be the picks of Trump.

1:34:19 Then Matt Gaetz, as the AG, in obviously coordination with Trump, would put the other political appointees in the positions. So, like, I can speak obviously best about the Department of Defense. The Department of Defense has obviously the secretary and the deputy secretary of defense. And then you have the cabinet.

1:34:45 the assistant secretaries and the Department of the Military. So you have like the civilian that's Secretary of the Air Force, Secretary of the Army, Secretary of the Navy, blah, blah, blah. So those people are political appointees as well. And below them are other political appointees that do not require Senate confirmation. The Secretary of the Air Force, I know, at least back in the 90s, required it.

1:35:15 Because that was the fiasco I got involved in. Go ahead, Stellar. I remembered SCOTUS. It's about SCOTUS. So they're going to be talking or have something that they're going to be releasing. I think it's Friday. And then, so there's that.

1:35:33 Not only with the, we don't know what it's about. Maybe it's regarding, you know, the forced recess, if these people are not going to do what the people want. Or maybe it has something to do with the Chevron, I mean, because with the Chevron deference, you know, it's already shown in a lot of these agencies are not for the people. And if the people are really making a big, you know, gripe about things, maybe it's showing that the government is not working for the people, but against them. I don't know. Potentially. Leon, go ahead. Leon?

1:36:09 We can't hear you. Can you hear me? Yep. Okay. I accidentally double-clicked on the microphone, so it muted me. It popped in my head earlier. You guys were talking about news media and how fraudulent they are. I posted in the comments a link about the Clinton's Telecommunication Act, and it seems like it's hard press for just...

1:36:38 making it all about when it comes to the media just profits for profits for profits and at any cost and cause unrest and just just keep on cutting us into smaller subsections and that and keep us in you know like a state of war and distrust it amongst our own people well that's definitely the agenda it's called the strategy of tension um and

1:37:07 That kind of gives birth to Operation Gladio. The strategy of tension has everything to do with compartmentalizing society and get them warring against each other so that the people that are in charge can steal all of our resources while we're just, you know, chomping on crayons or whatever. And that is, I mean, you see it play out not just in the United States, but all over the world. If they can get

1:37:35 Countries fighting with each other, they can get people within countries fighting with each other. You can go back to World War II and you find out, like in the case of Syria, Turkey, Iran, and Iraq, the dissecting of Kurdistan up into four different sections and sticking them inside of those countries created the strategy of tension by having inside of one country two distinctly different people. And that all was decided.

1:38:05 During the aftermath of World War II, because it was at that point that they had decided that they were going to create and maintain the perpetual war machine. And the only way you can do that is to have people fighting with each other. And so in each location that they changed the boundaries after World War II.

1:38:26 you have created a perpetual war machine. It happened with Taiwan and China. Taiwan is 100% China. It was Chinese island of Formosa. It happened with Pakistan, made up out of whole cloth, wasn't even a country. I'm going to steal some of Afghanistan. I'm going to steal some of India. I'm going to create this country. And oh, by the way, Bangladesh used to be East Pakistan, not Bangladesh.

1:38:50 And all of those things was to generate a strategy of tension, the creation of Israel, plopping it down in the middle of Palestine, in the Middle East, all points of contention that has led us to a perpetual war. Leon, go ahead. So, okay, so basically they're just taking the playbook out of Sun Tzu's Art of War and just using it amongst countries so that they can work into the background with all the debris.

1:39:22 so that they can keep themselves well hidden. But during World War II, didn't we go into the Federal Reserve during that time period too and basically bankrupt our own country? No, we went into the Federal Reserve in 1913. Okay. Yeah, that was well before that, but that was around World War I timeframe. Okay.

1:39:52 That makes sense. Another thing that popped up in my head, all these illnesses and that that's been popping up. I'll post another link. In 2007, I believe Congress was having a meeting over the proliferation of biolabs amongst the United States. And then anybody remember when we discovered that balloon in Montana? Right.

1:40:23 um find out there's a bio lab right there and it's called the rocky mountain right it just popped in my head not i'm an autistic so i just shit out a bunch of information that's every time there at all no uh yeah we did um early on before i ever started doing spaces or anything um when we were over on true social a big disclosure thing about all of the

1:40:49 that were found on the State Department's website on the Ukraine embassy and the revealing of Richard Lugar, who was at the time the senator from Indiana that had taken Barack Obama on his first overseas trip. And it just happened to be to the Biolab 4 in Ukraine that has Lugar's name on it. And there is a corresponding Biolab.

1:41:15 for in Georgia with his name on it as well, the country of Georgia. And so this proliferation of bio labs around the world is very well known. Obviously, we have them throughout our country. And a lot of them are in conjunction with universities like where they created COVID in, you know, the

1:41:39 University of North Carolina and its association with the Army Fort Detrick's program kind of all ties together. And, you know, the initial attack that Putin carried out on Ukraine looks very closely related to where the bioweapons labs were known to exist inside of Ukraine. So and we've also.

1:42:09 come across some other very interesting correlations to countries that have these bioweapons labs in them that is really dark. So definitely not been a good thing. And it just basically goes back to some of the comments that were made here today. If, and I think Karen made it, if your job in 1991, as we said it was,

1:42:36 to take over the former Soviet Union's bio labs and dispose responsibly of all of the agents there. And from 1991 until 30 years later, you haven't fucking done it. And they still exist. Plus they like times 20. You've got.

1:43:02 We don't even just have the ones that we had in 1991. They've exploded in number all over the world. Then you fucking suck at your job. Your whole job was to get rid of them. So none of us had them and none of us has to be worried about being exposed to the bullshit that instead of doing that.

1:43:24 You now have exploded this shit all over. People used it on each other all of the time. And where did it come from? These same stinking labs. So again, it's every one of these stories that they've told us. When you step back and you look at them, you're like, you guys fucking suck. You can't do anything. And then you realize, oh.

1:43:46 Well, they're never actually trying to do any of that stuff. That's all just a big cover story. Their whole job in taking over these bio labs was to use the bio labs in order to make even more bullshit like COVID and deploy them on us whenever we want under this strategy of tension. Because if they can terrorize us, they can make us want to seek out more government solutions in order to control us. Basically.

1:44:15 perp walking us on to the cattle car to our own demise. Go ahead, Tim. Colonel, who's the head of the snake? Well, I don't spend a lot of time trying to identify the head of the snake. I spend my time on recognizing patterns because I don't have access to classified information anymore.

1:44:42 And I have no way of identifying who the actual head of the snake is. Now, what I can tell you is this, since we have several new people here. It was in the late 1800s decided amongst the British Roundtable, Fabian Society, that they were going to create what is called a roundtable. And the world was going to be divided up into five areas, Pan-America, Pan-Europe.

1:45:11 Pan-British Empire, Pan-Asia, and Pan-Arabic. And each of those people were going to sit at a table and they were going to decide kind of like a global governance. And the apparatus that was going to make all of that happen basically evolved into Operation Gladio. And they said at the time in the late 1800s, it's all written out there. All you have to do is go look.

1:45:38 that they were going to have three world wars to do it. And it is viewed by scholars in that area that the third world war started immediately in the aftermath of the second world war. And it was going to be basically a covert war to install fascist dictators all around the world in order for them to affect the control that they would need over the populations. And they were going to do that.

1:46:08 using terror. And that's the reason why NATO was set up. It was never set up to guard against communism because the same people that funded communism funded the Nazism and FDR's socialist New Deal. So having set up the entire polar opposites, as we were led to believe, in the far right and the far left, which they never were, they're both versions of total government.

1:46:37 But they were made to look like opposing opposite philosophies. And then everybody else was supposed to be in the third way. We are supposed to be in the middle, trying to not ever go to the right or not ever go to the left. And meanwhile, totally manipulated into cowering via terrorist attacks to stay in the middle, huddled up for safety. And that allowed them to operate.

1:47:06 around the fringe, basically pushing us towards this third way of one world government. And NATO, with their Operation Gladio units, stay-behind units that were created in the immediate aftermath of World War II, was a mechanism on the paramilitary side. I found that book that I was posting out of this morning, which I really, really enjoy.

1:47:30 that describes a parapolitical version of the same thing. And I do find that concept fascinating because I do believe that is exactly what happened in the aftermath of World War II, because you find the rise of the social democrat parties throughout the world.

1:47:52 So it makes the case that this guy was trying to make in the fact that simultaneously with creating the paramilitary covert manipulation of people via terror attacks, that you also had this parapolitical entity that was set up via the UN, the NATO, the World Bank, the IMF, and all of these other political entities to include.

1:48:21 a whole plethora of new political parties all under the same auspices of basically turning the society into these fascist ran dictatorships. And so that's it in a nutshell. Is there the old money families above that round table? My personal opinion is yes.

1:48:51 And again, I go back to the Wallenbergs and the Merdises and some of the very, very old moneyed families being. But none of the ones that we think of, like the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds and all of those, if you know their name, they're not it. There is an entity above that that has controlled for the last, you know, two or three hundred years through their.

1:49:20 hierarchies in their families, which my husband read a meme today about them being mentally retarded because they were so inbred. I don't remember exactly what it said, but it was hilarious. And literally we're being ruled over by insane retarded people when it comes right down to it. And that just has to stop. Stellar, go ahead.

1:49:48 It's true. We are being everything is under their control. Well, they're losing control with this money that they're finding or that, you know, disappears or whatever. Do you think that that seized assets or do you think that or what do you think? Because, I mean, I know that there's been a lot of stuff, but it seems like it's a lot more prevalent now. And I know it's because of the systems that they're on.

1:50:11 you know, with the hacks that came out with the elections and all that, you know, stuff you can, you know, foreign interference and all that fun stuff. But do you think that some of these things like the Pentagon stuff, you know, because that's been going on for a while. And then with the central bank one, I mean, they have to go through their audits. Now, Donald Trump is or Trump media is in talks to buy a crypto platform, you know, so it just makes you wonder. So.

1:50:38 I think you probably have a mixed bag. Do I think the holes in the Pentagon budget has much more to do with the skimming off of weapons, like we were talking about at the beginning of the show? What happens is that, and I'm just going to use a very generic number and example. If I give a contract to Lockheed,

1:51:06 to build me 10 C-130s. And I take delivery of nine of them and one of them gets black marketed. I go to a wing and I say, where's the 10? On the contract, it says I got 10. And at some point, I only end up with nine on the ramp. And the audit, the quote unquote audit says, oh,

1:51:36 Well, I only have nine five years later. I don't have 10. So that becomes a deficit. And the same thing at scale with everything in the Department of Defense. You know, part of the missing material is what we left in Afghanistan. Part of the missing material is the things that are skimmed off and shipments to all of these, quote unquote, places of war. All of the shit is coming out of the Defense Department that's going to Israel.

1:52:05 That's all getting skimmed off. And so at the end of the day, you will have these supposedly, you know, the bill of laden and the receipts and all this other stuff. And some of this stuff goes missing in transit. Well, when you're dealing with multi-billion dollar weapon systems, that money adds up fast. And at the end of the day, we know that large, I mean, we just talked about billions of dollars worth of it just today.

1:52:33 And that was just in one skirmish in Vietnam. And it never goes away. So the fact that we're, unless you retire that equipment, that deficit never goes away. If I'm supposed, we still have B-52s from like the 1960s. And so not that we've, you know, skimmed off B-52s, but as an example, C-130s, we've had them and they did literally, they've sold on the black market.

1:53:02 fighter aircraft. They've sold on the black market helicopters. So these things that, quote unquote, go missing or get left behind or whatever you want to call it, still show up on an asset ledger in the Department of Defense until it's written off. And those show up in an audit as missing money because it's not anywhere to be found.

1:53:30 So when was the last time this stuff has been audited? Because you would think that, okay, so I ordered 10 airplanes. I only got nine of them. At some point, that order is not going to get filled with that missing airplane. So you would think they would close it out and say, hey, give me back my money for that one airplane that I did not receive. I mean, at some point, there has to be audits. Are they not auditing? Yes, they just failed their seventh audit in a row. They audited.

1:53:55 But did they not ever write it off? That's what I'm saying. Like, I have a business and my expenses I have to write off. If I don't write off the expenses, then I have to pay more taxes. I don't want to pay more taxes on stuff that I don't, you know, that was a business expense. So, I mean, I don't understand. Take a breath. None of the rules that apply to us apply to the government. That's rule number one. Okay. None of that shit matters to the government. And second, if Lockheed produces 10, they delivered 10.

1:54:25 What the hell the Department of Defense did with them isn't their concern. There's no one to get money back from, honey. This is taxpayer dollars. Lockheed got their shit. We supposedly got the aircraft. One of them got left somewhere and it's just missing. Don't they have GPS on it? Like on my car, I can put it in my app and find it. I mean, this is ridiculous.

1:54:51 You know, OK, I got not I ordered 10. Now I have nine. And let me just give one to, well, the International Syndicate and they can cover it up somewhere. I just use that as a very simplistic example because that's not exactly how it happens. So it happens just like what happened in Afghanistan. So you have a SEAL team that deploys to Djibouti and, you know, they have all these Stinger missiles and they have all this other shit. Well, then they leave.

1:55:20 And they don't have 10 of the Stinger missiles because somehow they came up missing. And this just accumulates. We've got people in like 400 to 600 different locations with all kinds of shit all over the world. But don't they write down anywhere stating, okay, well, like Afghanistan, that's perfect because we know we left a whole bunch of equipment there. So isn't there like an itemized thing saying, okay, we left.

1:55:47 Three of these airplanes, 15 tanks or whatever, however many bullets, however many bombs, whatever it is that they left behind. Isn't there like an inventory that was left behind? That way they can write it off and just say, OK, this stuff was here. Here are the serial numbers. If they show up somewhere in the skirmishes because we're going to be using them again because we're a bunch of international syndicate people. There's no place to write it off to, honey. That's what I'm trying to explain to you. If I'm a commander and I have a unit issue.

1:56:16 of, you know, again, I'm just going to use round, easy numbers, 10 helicopters. And I come back and nine of my helicopters got left in Afghanistan. You know, I make a report. There's no writing off. I have one helicopter on there. I don't pay taxes on any of this stuff. There's nothing like that exists in the military or in government in general. I just now.

1:56:41 Well, they got to fix that. That needs to be fixed because that's ridiculous. There's a lot of shit that needs to be fixed, Stella. But now I have one airplane and I'm going to order more and you're going to pay for it. So there's no incentive for these people. It doesn't come out of their paycheck and nor should it because they're not the ones as a unit commander. If I was told to get on an airplane and get the hell out of there and leave all my shit behind, you're not going to screw my career up for leaving all my shit behind because it's your damn fault.

1:57:09 There's this catch-22 anytime that it comes to government operations. But again, at the end of the day, next year, if there's an audit and the auditor comes to my base and I've got one helicopter and my books say I have 10, then that's going to show up as nine times whatever, you know, $10 million per helicopter. It's going to show a hole or a deficit on what my...

1:57:37 total value of my unit is versus what it's supposed to be. And it looks like I've lost that money when in fact I actually lost helicopters. And it's significantly worse because those helicopters are capable of all kinds of deadly shit. The whole thing that they're saying that is just missing money is a bullshit line. We're missing shit. And that shit in many cases are lethal.

1:58:05 So the fact that they're, and it's true with everything, it's not that they're missing. A lot of this stuff was skimmed off and is floating around the world doing covert operations. Carrie, go ahead. Yeah, Colonel, I just wanted to inform you that the spiritual people on Twitter say that you should not get angry.

1:58:35 And no cursing. No cursing. Carrie, if you don't like it, and whoever the spiritual people in are, if you don't like it, leave. I don't care. I'm joking. I'm teasing you. Oh, my God. No. I curse way worse than you. No, they're actually spreading this shit that it's a low frequency to have anger. I don't care. It's really repulsive and disgusting. I don't care.

1:59:03 But I had a question for you. So do you think, would you frame out that we actually, that America actually has a military? What? Would you say, can you say to yourself, yes, America has. America, the America, has a military. We have a military. We have a military.

1:59:36 But it doesn't seem like we have a military. It seems like we don't. I mean, they're they're like making proposals like and they have things on the books and the laws already that points the military at us. So are you saying you're asking the question if we have if everyone in the military is loyal to the United States? That's a completely different question.

2:00:07 No, I'm saying do they work for us? Like, I don't know. I don't know how else to explain it. The United States military works for the government chain of command. Yes, that's unequivocally. Does that mean that the military made up of humans, that every single one of them is loyal to their oath? Absolutely not.

2:00:33 You are asking if we have a military that is loyal to the United States, whether you know it or not. That is the question you're asking. They don't work for anybody else. They work for the United States of America. They swore an oath to the United States of America's Constitution. There are flawed felons that are on active duty that should be court-martialed for

2:01:02 their treasonous activities, and there are people that have retired out of the United States military that are a disgrace to the United States military and our country in general, and they should all be held accountable as well. Now, if you ask me that question about the CIA, I would unequivocally say they have never since their inception worked for the United States government. They have 100% always worked for an international syndicate that has

2:01:33 Absolutely nothing to do with the best interest of America. Stellar, go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. And I just see that how everything's happening right now with all of this, you know, disclosure with all of these facts coming out, you know, seeing how all these things all work together and it's all being dismantled, you know, and it has been Operation Gladio, the international syndicate, like you've said numerous times, you know, whether it's the financial.

2:02:03 the banking, currency, you know, governments, monarchies. And the one family you guys can look at that's a monarchy that's really, that I will say 100% total retards and psychopaths. Look at the Habsburgs families. They have the most weird looking family and, you know, things didn't work on them. So yes, it's true. But, you know.

2:02:30 Thank you, Colonel Towner. I mean, just totally blown away because there has to be accountability. So like the Department of Defense and how they have like pretty much carte blanche. It's the same thing with the Board of Education, carte blanche. You know, all these different things that are not for the people because there has to be some sort of accounting for it because it shouldn't be an open checkbook to everybody except for within America, in my opinion. Sorry, Bridget. Go ahead, Bridget. Oh, no.

2:03:00 um and actually i want to add on to what you were saying a standing our country did not have a standing military once it had a standing military we created wars to justify the military but the military pledges allegiance not to a corrupt puppet-controlled government

2:03:32 It pledges allegiance to the Constitution, which our country was founded on. Yes? Correct. We did not have anything military until after World War II. Right. And adding to what Stella had said, and it was just kind of a big aha moment for me, you know, we trace a lot of these families back, and this was a new one on me, that Barbara Bush goes back.

2:04:02 to, I just had a brain fart, LeVay, Anton LeVay. Yeah. Just to show you how evil this bloodline type thing is. Anyone, if anybody doesn't know. And let me just caveat so that you guys understand this. I posted this earlier. The first Congress instituted

2:04:33 three departments by law for the executive branch, the Department of War, the Department of Foreign Affairs, and the Department of Treasury. Those were the three things that were, via the Constitution, the responsibility of the federal government. Not another single thing should be paid for by the federal government.

2:05:03 The Department of War was staffed with a four-star general, no civilians, that reported directly to the President of the United States. This whole concept of civilians over the military, as far as the Constitution was concerned, had to do with the four-star working directly for the President, not all of these political appointees and all this other bullshit.

2:05:32 The staff was a very small staff at the Department of War. And during wartime, we relied exclusively or initially on guard units throughout the states because, again, the federal government's only job was to represent the states. And the states had to agree that our

2:06:01 Republic was under attack before they released any of their guardsmen to defend the national sovereignty. So there were so many checks and balances worked into our framework and the mobilization of the guard and then the augmentation of that via a draft that affected everybody.

2:06:30 Equally, not where you are buying rich people and college graduates and all this other bullshit out of a draft to defend our country was the way it was originally designed to operate. But it got so twisted around that in the Vietnam War, not only obviously did we have a standing military that was being improperly used, but they.

2:06:57 went around, they did not even mobilize guard or reserve units because they did not want that war to generate anti-war resistance, which it would, as we saw after 9-11, when entire police, you know, if you've got a large guard unit in a small town, every firefighter is going to be part of the guard unit. Every cop is going to be part of the guard unit.

2:07:23 And large portions of people's police force and when they mobilized a local guard unit to go to Desert Storm or whatever, large swaths of the entire town was taken with the guard unit. And that immediately generated a hypersensitivity. And that's exactly what they avoided during Vietnam. They went around the guard and the reserve.

2:07:52 And they went directly to drafting people because they did not want to generate an anti-war effort because they were on thin ice as it was. And there was an organic, well-organized, not hippie anti-war effort that came about almost right away after their attempts to get us involved in Vietnam. And so they made the choice to go to a draft where it's onesies and twosies out of every town in America that was not.

2:08:22 felt collectively in order to generate more outrage towards that war. And when people came back in body bags, it was an entire unit. And that is how they basically played us during the Vietnam War as well. Tim, go ahead. I'm sitting here just going, wow, that's an aspect I'd never thought about. If, and you corrected me about use of words, so I'm not going to use.

2:08:53 The word. But what's your what's your gut reaction about Trump? Do you what's some tell signs we can watch as soon as he's after he gets in office that he's doing something about this? Well, I mean, in you're going to see it. I think you don't even have to wait till he's in office. Right. I mean, look at who he's picking to be in his cabinet.

2:09:25 And it's not Trump that is going to carry out Trump's agenda. It's the people that he is hiring right now that's going to carry out his agenda. And you can already see it scared the shit out of everybody. And so I don't think we even have to wait till Trump takes office to understand exactly what's going to happen. Matt Gaetz has made it very clear, very clear that he understands exactly what the threat is. So has Tulsi Gabbard.

2:09:54 If you go back and you look at any of the comments that these guys have made over the last couple of years, they are very well read in on what the real threat is here to our country. And they will hit the ground running because you can imagine.

2:10:16 especially Gates having all of the different committee testimonies that we have seen him engaged in. He knows exactly where the dead bodies are. And let me just say from a Gladio perspective, his questioning of General Langley on the use of the Fort Benning School that used to be the School of Americas to produce.

2:10:43 Military personnel in countries in Africa that the CIA then turned around and used to coup their governments, just like they did throughout all of Latin America, made me understand completely that Matt Gaetz gets it. And he told that general, I want a list. I want a list of every one of the graduates of that school at Fort Benning that has went on to coup a government.

2:11:11 basically correlating, which we already did with Operation Condor in the School of Americas, that they were training them and they grew up to be dictators installed when the CIA activated them to overthrow their government. So Matt Gaetz definitely gets it. Bridget? Just adding a little flavor to exactly what you were saying and exactly what he was asking. You know, when Donald Trump first...

2:11:43 started running for president. I did a little bit of my own research on him. And when he was working up in New York, he went to go build their ice skating rink. The ice skating rink had stalled for many years. I don't remember the exact number. And it had already gone over budget. He came in, he bid the job and said he could do it in six months.

2:12:13 or an exorbitantly short time, and for half the budget. And he did. He actually, when they interviewed him afterwards, they asked him how he knew that he could do it. He said, I knew I couldn't do it. I just hired the best man for the job, the guy that knows everything, everything about ice skating rinks, and I trust that he will do what he knows the best.

2:12:43 And so I think what you're seeing play out right in front of us with Matt Kess, with Tulsi Gabbard, with each of these picks, these are not people who he chose in a matter of weeks or months even. These are people that now, looking at it in a 20,000-foot view, these were people who were very carefully chosen some time ago.

2:13:10 And the way that they've been attacked by the deep state, my opinion, shows that they knew he was going to pick them. But again, if you look at someone's history, you can learn a lot. And since he was not a government official at the time, it was good to go back to his business history. And that's where you learn what he's doing right now is exactly what he's always done.

2:13:40 He put the best people in the best positions, the positions they were made for, the positions God shaped them into. Very well said. Brian, I see you snuck in here. Do you have anything you want to add to that? Oh, hey, everybody. Sorry, I'm delving into some early Thanksgiving pumpkin pie. Man, you caught me red-handed. But, no, just a lot of things are going on, no doubt about it.

2:14:14 It's quite an undertaking to put people in positions. And as you can imagine, everybody has an idea. Everybody has the best thing, you know, the right people. So, you know, to me, it never fails to amaze me just how much of an undertaking it is to technically form a whole entire executive branch, you know, between Election Day and January 20th.

2:14:43 Normally, I'm on the very outskirts of it, but now being a little bit more close to the action, it still is quite an amazing feat for anybody to pull off. President Trump obviously has to have a lot of trust in his advisors and his chief of staff and people like that. So far, I'm pretty happy with the outcome. I'm curious to see what's going to happen with Matt Gaetz.

2:15:12 My people that work in and out of D.C. all the time saying there's absolutely no way they're going to confirm Matt Gaetz. So I'm interested to see how that one plays out. And this is typically typically politics, right? The politician will make it soft announcement. There's no way they're going to back Matt Gaetz.

2:15:33 And then they have their friends that they want to have appointed to state attorney positions and these positions and that positions. And all of a sudden, that senator starts bending to confirmations. It's just you've all heard me say it before. You know, a majority of the stuff is just kabuki theater today. One story tomorrow, they may have another story. But I just say the best thing to do is just kind of wait and see and, you know, wait.

2:16:00 Wait for the government to be put together under President Trump. And then, you know, actually just start holding people accountable in their roles, honestly. And I think the team that he's got around him, a lot of the people, you know, like Elon and Vive, like these are non-government people. These are people that are hyper successful in the private sector. So these are people that are not used to just having un...

2:16:29 Checked power, unchecked budget. So I really like the fact that they are bringing some outsiders in to build these rules, the climate. You know, these are outsiders that need. And that's what I always say is you've got to bring in the outsiders. You cannot have career politicians, career government stooges, you know, making these calls because, again, they only ever see it. Imagine being Joe Biden your whole life, you know, government government service. It's like.

2:16:55 It's like they don't even have a reality check. They have no way to gauge reality because their whole life is that. As my husband says, they've never made payroll. They never, ever made payroll. And the decisions that these. So, I mean, when I used to be in a position of hiring, when I see people like, oh, I was this, the government, they thought it was something great. And I was just like bottom of the pile because, I mean, I have had.

2:17:23 A lot of experience, even when in the military, I was surrounded by a lot of civilian employees and contractors and stuff. And they just always seem to be the less capable, I'll say it nicely, of all the staff. But yeah, I think the more we can bring outsiders into the government to fix the government, which is what used to be, right? The representatives of America, the farmers, the doctors, the, you know, all these, it wasn't just made up of lawyers.

2:17:51 So I'm pretty hopeful. I'm pretty optimistic. And, you know, we're going to have General Flynn's nonprofit organization, America's Future, is going to have an event at Mar-a-Lago on December 10th. And I'm kind of laughing because I said it's going to be part fundraiser, part boardroom meeting. But, you know, a lot of great conversations are happening. Tom Homan, I can't explain to you how excited that I am to have Tom Homan.

2:18:20 back in his role as protecting our border, securing our border. But we have to ensure that Noam, the money comes from DHS, so we have to make sure everybody's doing their job to enable Tom Homan to be successful. And knowing Tom, if somebody's not being helpful to make him successful, he's going to let it known really quick. But I would say so far, Tom Homan is my absolute favorite appointment.

2:18:49 I think the rumors of Kash Patel will certainly be my number two and Matt Gaetz number three. So I'm looking at these appointments and potential appointments. I'm super excited. People keep asking me about Flynn, about Flynn, about Flynn. I said, listen, some people are just not going to go through a Senate confirmation hearing. You just have to understand that. For example, Elon Musk is not going to sit in front of a Senate confirmation hearing. So there are people that are going to work in certain ways for President Trump, and that's just reality.

2:19:17 Again, I'm super excited, super excited again for Tom Holman, I think, securing our border, getting people out of our country with a priority list of the most violent out first and working our way down, locating these missing children, these hundreds of thousands of missing children in the United States. And I just think there's a lot of great minds around the table this time around to address this stuff efficiently and effectively.

2:19:45 I'm excited. But anyways, I mean, it goes so long, but I appreciate it. No, I'm glad to have you here. You definitely have insight that we do not. And I appreciate you checking in with us every once in a while to add to the conversation. I really appreciate it, Brian. Thank you. DeLuca. Hi. Thank you for bringing me up. The United States was falling into this social political construct.

2:20:14 with economic overlays. And what Trump is doing is he's creating an economic construct with social overlays, which is, and he flipped it. It's based on a business model. It's a business construct based on best practices, zero-based budgeting. Before, maybe a division of the Pentagon, whatever, would say, well,

2:20:41 We spent $2 billion last year. Okay, tacking on another 10% without justifying where the $2 billion went. And this has really gotten people off the, they're crazy. If you heard Hakeem Jeffries, he is out of his mind. He said, these people are not qualified. They don't know what they're doing. Yeah, politically, if you're a politician, you're in.

2:21:06 It's been an old boys club, and Trump has come in and said it's not going to operate this way any longer. Because basically, if people have food and housing and a good job, a lot of these social issues go away. And the other side knows this, and that's what history has done. He's against war because war creates money, and we know all of that.

2:21:30 He just announced that he immediately wants to talk to Putin. He wants to get Putin and Zelensky together for a meeting. I don't know when that's going to happen, but he's called for that. So it's very refreshing. I trust that many of these people will honor that. And you only have to look to Tom Holman and people like that and Gates to understand where they want to head the country. They want to right the ship.

2:22:01 They want to right the ship and say, look, we have to get back to this economic business model because that's where we should be. It pulls all of the other social issues. It pushes them away. LGBTQ, all of this DEI wokeness goes away because people are less, well, they're more confident of themselves. They have a job. They know where they're going. And with that comes responsibility, of course.

2:22:30 I find it rather refreshing. I don't know if anybody saw Tom Holman a couple of weeks ago was in Congress and he was with one of the squad in front of the squad and he was explaining something and then she interrupted him and he interrupted her back and she banged her gavel and she said, Mr. Holman, you have to stop. I am talking to you. And he said, no, you answer to me because you work for me.

2:22:59 They work for us. Trump is flipping that. He's saying, this is your country. We work for you. We will honor you. And I think that's what is getting these people crazy because they have treated it like a kingdom, like a fiefdom. And it's no longer that. And hopefully we can get back to best practices. Hope that makes sense, Colonel. No, that makes perfect sense. And thank you for adding that. So we're...

2:23:28 Past our 6 o'clock time, and I need to get off here so I can get dinner and be ready for the pond, which, Stellar, Trumpfrog, that's going to be 8.15? Yep. Okay. Yes, ma'am. All right. So we will see you back here at 8.15. We're going to continue to have a conversation about Operation Gladio. If you guys can rejoin us, we'd appreciate you guys.

2:23:57 being there, and then we'll be back here tomorrow at 4 p.m. Thanks, everybody, for being here. Appreciate it. Thanks, Colonel.

Entities here

Donald Trump18 Vietnam11 CIA11 Ukraine10 Operation Gladio10 E. Howard Hunt9 Department of Defense9 Afghanistan8 Richard M. Bissell Jr.8 Soviet Union7 U.S. Army7 Matt Gaetz7 Chile6 NATO6 1973 Chilean coup d'état5 Tom Homan5 Afghanistan War5 Fall of Saigon5 World War II5 Vietnam War4 Iran4 Salvador Allende4 U.S. State Department4 Taliban4 Mika Brzezinski4 China4 Augusto Pinochet3 National Guard (El Salvador)3 Strategy of tension3 School of the Americas3 Edwin Wilson3 Lockheed2 Cuba2 Rockefeller2 Wallenberg family2 Vladimir Putin2 Rothschild family2 William Colby2 Tulsi Gabbard2 Michael Flynn2

Claims made here

Richard M. Bissell Jr. member_of Operation Mongoose book_quoted ▶ 34:17

“and his first name is spelled E-R-I-C-H. With Von Marbad's endorsement, Shackley, fresh from Vietnam, was assigned to pick up the pieces of the coup plotting in the Directorate of Plans. Shackley work…”

E. Howard Hunt appointed CIA book_quoted ▶ 34:17

Richard Nixon ordered_assassination_of Salvador Allende book_quoted ▶ 34:17

Richard M. Bissell Jr. recruited Cuba book_quoted ▶ 34:45

“that he had recruited for Operation Mongoose. Shackley's team was being ready for a new effort to overthrow the Chilean government. On September 12, 1973, half a year after Helms left, although, let's…”

CIA targeted_for_regime_change Chile book_quoted ▶ 34:45

U.S. State Department targeted_for_regime_change Chile book_quoted ▶ 35:46

“That is absolutely not true. And that's why it's so important that you read multiple books on this, because if you just read this book, again, these are CIA people telling their own story. The State D…”

Richard M. Bissell Jr. carried_out_attack 1973 Chilean coup d'état book_quoted ▶ 36:16

“and overthrow the government. The State Department, the Department of Commerce, all of them went to war with Chile. They just never told the American people. Shackley's Western Division orchestrated w…”

Augusto Pinochet overthrew Salvador Allende book_quoted ▶ 36:47

“And of course, we know him as Pinochet, who ends up in charge of Chile after they overthrow the government. Allende was so badly fooled that on the morning of the coup, he told supporters that Pinoche…”

Augusto Pinochet assassinated Salvador Allende book_quoted ▶ 37:14

“the author says, shot himself, but he did not. He was murdered. What came next in a military dictatorship that engaged in every form of torture, the CIA helped train Pinochet's secret police, the drea…”

CIA trained DINA book_quoted ▶ 37:14

E. Howard Hunt appointed CIA book_quoted ▶ 37:45

“In 1973, Shackley was made head of the CIA's East Asia Division, where, working with the Pentagon, he oversaw America's defeat in Vietnam. Eric Van Marbog, by that time, was Deputy Assistant Secretary…”

William Colby appointed E. Howard Hunt book_quoted ▶ 39:11

“who had returned to the Pentagon as well from being the CIA director, he was replaced at the CIA by William Colby, who was fresh out of Vietnam. He sent Von Marburg back to Saigon as his top logistics…”

James Schlesinger succeeded William Colby book_quoted ▶ 39:11

E. Howard Hunt carried_out_attack Fall of Saigon book_quoted ▶ 39:36

“Von Marbog was in charge of getting as much military hardware out of the country as possible. And you know what? They only give them a couple of days because their real intent is to leave that shit th…”

Thomas Polgar member_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 39:36

Ellsworth Bunker member_of U.S. State Department book_quoted ▶ 39:36

Edwin Wilson front_for Task Force 157 book_quoted ▶ 42:04

“in the next chapter, which we will do tomorrow, we get back into with a, again, an inside look of Edwin Wilson, who, as we all know, he was the guy who was supposedly shipping arms to Gaddafi. And he …”

Edwin Wilson trafficked Muammar Gaddafi book_quoted ▶ 42:04

CIA laundered_money_for Taliban host_asserted ▶ 49:58

“The CIA is now hurting for money because many of their avenues for getting money has been shut down. And so is the U.S. press telling us that this money is going to the Taliban and when it's really ac…”

CIA laundered_money_for Ukraine host_asserted ▶ 49:58

BCCI laundered_money_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 55:09

“If you go back and you look at the money that went through Nugent Hand and BCCI, the combination of the two, you're probably close to, if not well in excess of trillions of dollars. And the use of tha…”

Nugan Hand Bank laundered_money_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 55:09

National Endowment for Democracy front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 56:35

“Obviously, in the time frame when they created the National Endowment for Democracy and the International Republican Institute and all of those things that they did was a transitioning of some of the …”

International Republican Institute front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 56:35

NATO targeted_for_regime_change Ukraine guest_asserted ▶ 1:01:21

“to have Ukraine under its spell because it is evil, and they will do anything to include dropping these quote-unquote anonymous sources and all this other stuff to push us to the brink because what th…”

NATO carried_out_attack MH17 shootdown guest_asserted ▶ 1:05:35

“All of those things are plausible. We've seen all of them happen in our research as far as Operation Gladio goes. Just going to have to keep our eyes and ears open for the potential of this kind of st…”

NATO carried_out_attack MH370 disappearance guest_asserted ▶ 1:05:35

U.S. State Department carried_out_attack Oklahoma City bombing guest_asserted ▶ 1:07:10

“Yes, I remember. One of the most epic moments, by the way, of this election cycle. Unbelievable how smooth he was about it. Because we've seen other hosts, no names being mentioned, that have done tha…”

Zbigniew Brzezinski member_of Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:11:00

“Well, Mika's dad, he didn't go and negotiate with anybody. He directed terror stuff. No, I know. I mean, I know you know, but people that don't know who her dad is, he was totally, you know, a Gladio …”

Rockefeller secretly_owned General Electric host_asserted ▶ 1:21:35

“something of that nature, gold mines, mining companies, you know, or shipping. They all had some type of industrial might that was their kind of cover, if you will, as to their operational. And then t…”

Rothschild family secretly_owned JPMorgan Chase host_asserted ▶ 1:21:35

Strategy of tension founded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:37:07

“That kind of gives birth to Operation Gladio. The strategy of tension has everything to do with compartmentalizing society and get them warring against each other so that the people that are in charge…”

British Roundtable founded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:44:42

“And I have no way of identifying who the actual head of the snake is. Now, what I can tell you is this, since we have several new people here. It was in the late 1800s decided amongst the British Roun…”

Fabian Society founded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:44:42

Operation Gladio carried_out_attack World War II host_asserted ▶ 1:45:38

“that they were going to have three world wars to do it. And it is viewed by scholars in that area that the third world war started immediately in the aftermath of the second world war. And it was goin…”

NATO founded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:47:06

“around the fringe, basically pushing us towards this third way of one world government. And NATO, with their Operation Gladio units, stay-behind units that were created in the immediate aftermath of W…”

Lockheed supplied_arms_to Department of Defense guest_asserted ▶ 1:50:38

“I think you probably have a mixed bag. Do I think the holes in the Pentagon budget has much more to do with the skimming off of weapons, like we were talking about at the beginning of the show? What h…”

Department of Defense trafficked Lockheed guest_asserted ▶ 1:51:36

“Well, I only have nine five years later. I don't have 10. So that becomes a deficit. And the same thing at scale with everything in the Department of Defense. You know, part of the missing material is…”

Barbara Bush member_of Anton LeVay caller_asserted ▶ 2:03:32

“It pledges allegiance to the Constitution, which our country was founded on. Yes? Correct. We did not have anything military until after World War II. Right. And adding to what Stella had said, and it…”

U.S. Army member_of National Guard (El Salvador) guest_asserted ▶ 2:05:32

“The staff was a very small staff at the Department of War. And during wartime, we relied exclusively or initially on guard units throughout the states because, again, the federal government's only job…”

Donald Trump appointed Tulsi Gabbard guest_asserted ▶ 2:08:53

“The word. But what's your what's your gut reaction about Trump? Do you what's some tell signs we can watch as soon as he's after he gets in office that he's doing something about this? Well, I mean, i…”

Donald Trump appointed Matt Gaetz guest_asserted ▶ 2:09:25

“And it's not Trump that is going to carry out Trump's agenda. It's the people that he is hiring right now that's going to carry out his agenda. And you can already see it scared the shit out of everyb…”

Matt Gaetz ordered_assassination_of School of the Americas host_asserted ▶ 2:10:43

“Military personnel in countries in Africa that the CIA then turned around and used to coup their governments, just like they did throughout all of Latin America, made me understand completely that Mat…”

Donald Trump appointed Matt Gaetz guest_asserted ▶ 2:12:43

“And so I think what you're seeing play out right in front of us with Matt Kess, with Tulsi Gabbard, with each of these picks, these are not people who he chose in a matter of weeks or months even. The…”

Donald Trump appointed Tulsi Gabbard guest_asserted ▶ 2:12:43

Donald Trump appointed Vivek Ramaswamy guest_asserted ▶ 2:16:00

“Wait for the government to be put together under President Trump. And then, you know, actually just start holding people accountable in their roles, honestly. And I think the team that he's got around…”

Donald Trump appointed Elon Musk guest_asserted ▶ 2:16:00

Michael Flynn founded America's Future Foundation guest_asserted ▶ 2:17:51

“So I'm pretty hopeful. I'm pretty optimistic. And, you know, we're going to have General Flynn's nonprofit organization, America's Future, is going to have an event at Mar-a-Lago on December 10th. And…”

Donald Trump appointed Tom Homan guest_asserted ▶ 2:18:20

“back in his role as protecting our border, securing our border. But we have to ensure that Noam, the money comes from DHS, so we have to make sure everybody's doing their job to enable Tom Homan to be…”

Donald Trump appointed Kash Patel guest_asserted ▶ 2:18:49

“I think the rumors of Kash Patel will certainly be my number two and Matt Gaetz number three. So I'm looking at these appointments and potential appointments. I'm super excited. People keep asking me …”

Donald Trump targeted_for_regime_change Vladimir Putin guest_asserted ▶ 2:21:30

“He just announced that he immediately wants to talk to Putin. He wants to get Putin and Zelensky together for a meeting. I don't know when that's going to happen, but he's called for that. So it's ver…”