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OPERATION GLADIO Exposed with COLONEL TOWNER in The Skorzeny Papers Chapter 5

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0:05 Make sure the settings are good. Yep. Everything's good to go. Okay. Give me a sound check and we're going to jump right into the book. So we left off where they had through the Nuremberg trials, which was a joke, basically found Skorzeny.
1:00 not guilty. The author uses the word declared innocent. He was actually found not guilty, which as I said yesterday, completely ridiculous. But anyway, what was interesting is that he was not immediately released. Okay. So the puppy's name is Maverick after Top Gun. And just so that you know,
1:28 He did make an appearance the first night that I did, which was Tuesday night. And last night I was delayed like a couple of minutes because as soon as I got out here and got all set up, my husband comes running out here, throws the door open and says, I've lost the puppy. And so.
1:51 unbeknownst to him the puppy was still in the living room behind the couch but the living room door to the outside was slightly ajar so we could peek on him going in and out his doggy door and my husband thought he got out so we're running around frantically trying to get him um and um so in my family all of my girls have three girls they're all named uh they're all of their names start with the letter m
2:20 So it was a joke when I didn't name our previous Schnauzers. They were for the kids and they named them all after Disney characters. So we were not going to continue that. And so there was a joke when I first told the girls that I was going to get a new puppy. They immediately said, well, then his name has to start with an M. And, you know, we kind of all joked about it. But yes, he is definitely a maverick.
2:51 So as soon as I saw him, it was just to me, his name was going to be Maverick. And it didn't even click initially in the first like five minutes that it was an M name. And so when I looked at my husband, I said, we have to name a Maverick. And my husband goes, another M. And I'm like, oh my gosh. So yeah, it's another M. But anyone who knows me knows that I'm a Top Gun fanatic.
3:20 I went to field training for college, ROTC, which is how I got my commission, in the summer of 86 in Tacoma, Washington at McCourt Air Force Base. And that was the summer the Top Gun was released. So all 1,000 of us, future lieutenants, was bussed down to the Tacoma movie theater.
3:48 and they closed the movie theater except for to the cadets. We went in and watched the movie, and the rest is history. It's been my favorite movie. I don't watch any movie a second time ever. It's like a cardinal rule for me. I watched Top Gun like 50 times, probably borderline on 100 times. I like it so much, my middle daughter, who takes the most after me, started a collection when she was like,
4:16 10 because we watched Top Gun so many times. She now has every single Tom Cruise movie ever made, even the B movies. And I won't tell you, but she's the biggest. I bought her one year, an autographed picture of Tom Cruise. She's the biggest Tom Cruise fan. She knows all of his limiting factors, but she's just a big Tom Cruise fan.
4:42 So, of course, Maverick. So when the second Maverick, which we were on pins and needles waiting for for years, came out, I bought all of us to include my daughter in Austin. The T-shirts that says talk to me, Goose, with the sunglasses on them. We all wore them to the theater the first night it was released. We bought the VIP ticket, sat down with the recliner chairs that rumble when the.
5:09 aircraft is going over. So yeah, it's just fitting for my family that this dog's named Maverick. So anyway, enough about the dog. I will bring them to our next one Sunday evening for a few minutes because this is an amazing dog. I was telling Liza, she sent me a picture of her dog having eaten the bill of a baseball hat. And she's like, welcome to puppy life or whatever. And I'm like,
5:39 Actually, this dog is amazing. Within the first day, we had put in a new doggy door out to a new little pen area because our bigger, we live on an acre. Yard is not, we removed the gates to make it easier to get in and out. So while there's a fence around two thirds of it, it is not secured. Plus we have hawks and owls. So you couldn't let this tiny little puppy out. He'd be gone in a minute. We have.
6:07 Every animal, raccoons, armadillos, everything. So you just couldn't let him out by himself. So we kind of gave him his own little secured area to go to the bathroom. And within 12 hours, this dog was going in and out the door. All I did was put, because we have concrete block walls, I put a treat in the middle section and I put a treat on the outside. Then when we went out and went to the bathroom, I put a treat in the middle section and in the house. And within 12 hours, this dog is in and out, even at night.
6:35 All I have to do is take him out and put him in the living room. He goes right out the dog door, comes right back in. So amazing dog. Very, very God blessed when it comes to the dog that we got. So anyway, thank you, Lord. All right, back to the story. Chapter five, Camp King. So Skorzeny, unlike anybody else that was, and thank you very much for asking, guys. I feel like y'all are all part of my family.
7:06 Skorzeny, unlike most other prisoners that went to trial at Nuremberg, was not released when he was found not guilty, nor was his sidekick, Carl Radd, spelled R-A-D-L. So why would they keep him? Well, you're going to find out why. And it's very interesting because it so.
7:40 Everybody would think it's odd, given what we just read about in the trials, where supposedly the enemy were witnesses to get this guy found not guilty, right? But particular witnesses that were his equivalent special forces, almost like, and I know this is a conspiracy, and eventually maybe you could prove that.
8:09 But we have all collectively discovered there was a lot of communication between Britain and Hitler. The whole concept of the stay-behind units was Churchill's, but then somehow implemented by Hitler. There's a whole other aspect that we've not talked about in any of our book reviews, which is a separate book that I've read about the...
8:36 prime minister before having abdicated supposedly to marry an American that was a divorcee, which may have had a completely different reason because he ended up spending a lot of time with the Axis primarily in Germany. So why was he really there? Why did he really abdicate? Was he a spy? There's just so many pieces that we don't know, but
9:06 What we do know is an MI6 agent, along with Dulles and several other CIA, which will become CIA, collude to get Skorzeny found not guilty with the deal having already been made that he is going to be part of their network. So he bought his freedom, as did Galen.
9:38 as the new West Germany chief of intel, and this guy worked for Galen, they bought their freedom by getting in bed with the British and the American spies. So I want to set that groundwork so that you understand what we're about to talk about.
10:02 Soon word would arrive that they were going to be extradited to Denmark or to Czechoslovakia to face charges. However, nothing ever came of those rumors. And it was likely that was just a ploy as to give a reason why they were keeping him. Somebody that should have been released. They had to have a reason. So that was most likely the reason that was floated, that they were pending other charges, which technically they were not.
10:32 American officials wanted Skorzeny and Rad to write a history of German special forces. Skorzeny recorded the event in his memoirs, which this author has. Quote, we had often heard about the activities of the American Historical Division.
11:01 which was conducting research on the history of the war with the assistance of German officers. Unquote. Skorzeny and Ratt accepted the offer, but were surprised when they were not taken to the location where these activities were being recorded. They had set up like a camp that was recording the history of World War II and interviewing people in Germany that had participated.
11:36 They were instead sent to a Camp King, K-I-N-G, and that was located in the northwest area of Frankfurt. In hindsight, we now know that that request was a complete ruse and merely a cover to bring both men to Camp King for a secret vetting process to prepare them for their secret integration into an ongoing anti-communist.
12:09 Operation, i.e. Gladio, and creation of stay-behind networks under Compass Rose. Camp King was a special internment base with a number of intelligence and operational staff. The camp had formerly been used by the Germans as an interrogation facility, which the Americans took over at the end of the war. Located at the camp was the 7707th
12:38 European Command Intel Center. The acronym is ECIC. The mission of ECIC was the exploitation of persons and documents for intelligence purposes. It was one of the most highly classified areas in the operation of basically the debriefing after World War II.
13:01 So they interrogated German scientists, intel officers, and other prisoners of war valued to be high-value targets at Camp King. The commanding officer at Camp King was Colonel Roy Thurowman, literally spelled Thurowman. His executive officer was Lieutenant Colonel John Taylor. Colonel Thurowman was a veteran army officer.
13:30 from World War I. He oversaw the functioning of the camp, but he was not involved in any of the actual interrogation activities. He was just like the administrative officer. Camp King Intelligence Unit had nine sections or desks that focused on important, high-value targets. They wanted economic, industrial, political, scientific.
13:57 technical, counterintelligence, military, and special intelligence, like espionage. That's basically the deaths that were set up. The intel chief there was a Captain Henry Scard, like S-C-H-A-R-D-T, who carried out the intelligence mission under the cover of the 7734th History Detachment. That office was commanded by Colonel Harold Potter.
14:31 So as to not draw attention to the real reason they were sent to Camp King, it was Potter's unit that Skorzeny and Rad were assigned to upon their arrival at Camp King. So they're assigned to the history unit, not the interrogation intel unit. Captain Theodore Moraxis was assigned as their control officer at the historical detachment.
15:01 Keep in mind the names Captain Scard and Captain Metaxas because they come back again and again. The interrogation of Skorzeny at Camp King were personally conducted by Arnold Silver, a senior U.S. Army NCO and a chief counterintelligence section chief.
15:30 had been thoroughly interrogated before his trial by various high-level US intel officers, but the interrogations at Camp King by Arnold Silver were of a different nature. He was not a captured enemy combatant like he was at Nuremberg. He was now a US intel asset. So I would go so far as to say what follows here has nothing to do with history or...
16:03 interrogations. He is now being briefed or read into what we refer to as Operation Gladio. What he refers to is Compass Rose in the hierarchy of the stay-behind units. That's what's actually going on here under the guise of interrogation.
16:30 On arriving at his, here's from his papers, on a, let's see, no, wait, hold on. Silver's recollection of his first encounter with Skorzeny is found in an article that he wrote called Questions, Questions, Questions, Memories of Arborusul, which is the actual city in the area of where this camp king is.
17:13 Quote, Like, he's the tough guy. Obviously, the two men hit it off from the start, and Silver must have been very impressed with Skorzeny, stating that he,
17:28 was rightly acquitted in his opinion, but it was Silver's comment on Skorzeny's motivation and character that was the most illuminating. Quote, he was not a Nazi, and in fact, any ideology was alien to him. He was purely and simply a man of action and a patriotic German. Unquote. This positive comment brings to light Silver's actual relationship with Skorzeny was not to interrogate him, but to
17:58 for further prosecution, but to evaluate Skorzeny and determine if he could be useful to Western intel. I would argue they had already made that determination and that's why he was at King to begin with. And this is likely this Colonel Silver kind of whitewashing his role in working
18:29 on behalf of the cia to integrate this guy into compass rose or gladio so um that's kind of the nuts and bolts of it and of course you can't say yeah we actively recruited nazis and we don't have a problem with that the cia for every one of the paperclip people that came in
18:54 They worked with the State Department and Customs to sanitize every one of their records. They literally changed their immigration records from no Nazi office, SS officer, blah, blah, blah. They like white outed all of it and put that there was no known associations. So this was a concerted effort.
19:23 To use Nazis via whitewashing. And that's all this colonel is doing is whitewashing. The fact that he absolutely was a Nazi. He bought into the whole Nazi persona. But we're not allowed to say that after the fact. Because then it would question their use of a known Nazi conspirator. So one of the initial indications that.
19:54 Skorzeny and Rad was brought to Camp King for special processing by intel was in the manner that they were first received. For example, immediately after they arrived, Colonel Porter arranged for the two of them to be set up in the Alaska House, a posh multi-tiered Tudor-styled building reserved for VIP prisoners. It was regarded as top secret the most
20:25 secured prisoners and the prisoners were assigned code names so that they wouldn't know who was there. According to Skorzeny's notes that this author has, quote, according to special security regulations, we were assigned code names. Rad's name became Baker, mine Abel, unquote.
20:56 Skorzeny also mentioned two other individuals that were at the Alaska house at the same time. These men had names of X-Ray and Zebra. Both, according to Skorzeny, were acquaintances of his from Italy. And of course, for us, our antenna goes up immediately when they're bringing radical people into this location.
21:25 to in brief them into operation gladio or compass rose from italy where italy was the cutting of the teeth of operation gladio with the very first country wide operation being launched in italy in their first election which happened around 1948 so the fact that they're in briefing in
21:57 The Alaska House, with Skorzeny, people from Italy, seals the deal that this is all the same operation. Camp King was the home of numerous highly classified projects, some of which are still shrouded in secrecy today, still classified. According to Arnold Silver, the Camp King intelligence section concentrated on questioning Germans.
22:28 who, by virtue of their wartime function, had considerable knowledge of Soviet industries. Camp King served as the main location for screening and processing of German scientists. And I think that's a big foot stomper as well. In particular, those with rocket and ballistic backgrounds. This project widely became known as Project Paperclip, originally dubbed Overcast, Project Overcast.
23:00 which brought some notable scientists like Warner Von Braun to the States. So that was all being done at Camp King. So basically Camp King is an in-processing center for those of us who's been in the military. It's an in-processing center of Nazis into the Western Alliance. That's what it is. As senior army counterintelligence officers at...
23:32 Camp King, Arnold Silver was aware of most, if not all, of the classified programs at the camp. In that interview, questions, questions, questions, he maintained close alliance with the Strategic Services Unit in Frankfurt, which at the time of Skorzeny's arrival at Camp King had morphed into the CIA.
24:02 Hence, Arnold was, during his tenure at Camp King, the conduit of the CIA carrying out evaluations and communications with Skorzeny, which is what we just talked about. It was a CIA and processing center. That's the nuts and bolts. So they had a document disposal unit as well in 1948, at least by 1948.
24:38 There was a unit called Documents Disposal Unit. The documentary evidence is confusing, but it appears that the Document Disposal Unit, DDU, was a subordinate unit of the War Department Detachment, i.e. the CIA, set up by Allen Dulles. Regardless, the DDU was a focal point of managing the disposition and control of networks involved.
25:11 by former SS, SD, and Gestapo agents. The DDU apparently emerged from or had a relationship with the documents research unit. So in other words, they're going to go through all of the documents and they're going to decide which are incriminating and needs to be destroyed and which ones they're going to save to lie to all of us. The DRU was activated in London.
25:40 in June of 1945. It was initially headed by First Lieutenant Walter Rothschild. Despite the rank and title, it was not a military entity. Many of the OSS and SOE, which is the UK's version, staff were afforded notional military ranks as cover for intel.
26:11 And that happened in the OSS and in the British, where throughout our history, they had CIA and OSS officers posing as military when in fact they were just using that rank as a way to infiltrate and give them some type of a status other than being civilians on the battlefield. They were literally doing what we now accuse.
26:40 non-state actors as doing, we were doing in World War II. So the DDU worked directly with the 7808th War Crimes Group and associated military legal teams of the Army Judge Advocate Corps. This would have included all of those that had been involved in Skorzeny's trial, including Judge Gordon Simpson,
27:17 Judge J.C. Duvall, Colonel Telford Taylor, as well as Major Robert Bishop, who were personally responsible for assembling the documents for the Skorzeny trial. So you see how that works? Anything that they didn't want presented at Nuremberg was disposed of by this document disposal unit. Anything that they wanted to use, they used.
27:48 Nuremberg, the entire thing was bullshit. The entire thing. It was a setup. They produced documentation to use at the trial that they wanted to hang a few people so they could say that they had justice. And then they destroyed anything on the people that they wanted to end process through Camp King. It's quite mind-blowing, actually, for those of us who've...
28:19 always believed that Nuremberg was actually a thing. It was a joke. Since much of the documentation of interest to the DDU was also of interest to the allied attorneys in the war crimes group, the review and handling of these papers was extremely classified. It will be reiterated here that the Directorate of Documentation Division and Executive Trial Counsel at Nuremberg was Dallas native Colonel Robert Story.
28:49 that name's going to keep coming up. Tattoo that in your brain. So he's orchestrating who goes to trial and for what, and whether or not they will be found guilty based on the documents that they're going to allow to be shown. Not unlike what we're seeing right now in the United States, almost like history's repeating itself.
29:16 In the field, the DDU worked very closely with Army counterintelligence. Many years after his tour of duty at Camp King, Arnold Silver stated that he was responsible for recommending Skorzeny's disposition, i.e. him coming into the CIA. He also mentions that his higher headquarters was located in Frankfurt. Frankfurt was the headquarters for the Document Disposal Unit.
29:45 Interestingly, Silver had the same responsibilities for the infamous Gestapo chief, Captain Kloss Barbie, who is better known as the Butcher of Lyon, who arrived nearly simultaneously at Camp King as Skorzeny, but under an entirely different set of circumstances. The word disposition used by Arnold in his article.
30:13 was thus a veiled reference to the control of Skorzeny by the DDU, a fate also shared by Kloss Barbie. At the time of Skorzeny's stay at Camp King, the DDU was involved with a project to provide safe houses and operational aid facilities for all CIA activities in Germany. This project was called Harvard. That's hilarious.
30:42 A declassified draft working paper of the history of the CIA reveals that the disposal unit, the DDU, had two sections. One under a Lieutenant Colonel Lewis Kubler and another at Frankfurt under the OSS. And that one was Captain Lucien Koning. C-O-N-E-I-N. And we all know that name because that name comes up.
31:11 repeatedly in Operation Gladio in every theater. He's one of the drug runner guys. He's in Vietnam. He's in South America. He's in Europe. He's everywhere. And the fact that this guy is involved in Camp King is crazy. Kubler's office handled documents.
31:38 and ID cards, while the Frankfurt office under Koning handled housing resettlement and evacuations. His nickname there was called Black Luigi, L-U-I-G-I, due to his lethal reputation gained while fighting as an OSS operative with the French resistance during World War II. In other words, he's an assassin too. Koning
32:09 would later be a focus of many of the JFK researchers as a potential assassin or operative in the Dallas assassination. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Koning was based in Paris, France, but sent to the U.S. when he was five years old. He was raised in Kansas City by a French aunt. He ran away at the outbreak of World War II and enlisted in the French Army.
32:40 He made his way back to the U.S. and was assigned to the OSS due to his language proficiency and experience in fighting Germans. Koning was eventually transferred to the Pacific, where he conducted commando raids against the Japanese. He will also come up in Operation Golden Lily, which is our next book. Small world patterns. He stayed on for the traditional.
33:10 transitional period when the OSS was dissolved and reformed into the CIA. Koenig would be dispatched by the agency to Vietnam as part of the military advisor team. He shows up everywhere, people. According to Kubler, Koenig was used, he used two means to evacuate individuals from Germany deemed to be of value to the CIA. One was to get them to South America.
33:39 like using the rat lines, or to the U.S. using International Relief Organization, IRO, not unlike they use the Red Cross. Since the asset could pose as either a refugee or a displaced person, they also could use like black channels, like they did Galen. I mean, they dressed him up as a four-star.
34:10 military officer and flew them right into an international airport in the U.S. for debriefing by the CIA. So they have ways to get them in there. And I just find it very interesting that this cooperates again, not that we need to because we already did it, that we're talking about the same network here unequivocally.
34:41 The next area, on December 6th, Skorzeny received a surprise visit from his former wife, Gretel. Their marriage had not lasted long, but during the war, she worked for the Reich Main Security Office and had oversaw Skorzeny's unit. Nothing else is known about her background, but her visit to Skorzeny was a precursor to an even greater intrigue at Camp King. Shortly after her visit, both Skorzeny and Rad
35:11 received a very unusual 14-day Christmas path to leave Camp King on their own and return on their honor in a timely fashion. The bizarre pass would allow Skorzeny to have the freedom of movement. It's likely that he took the opportunity to make contact with his former officers and soldiers. Some of these men had already began working with the U.S., British, and French intel.
35:41 again like we saw before where he's able to communicate even while he's being held in captivity this is not unlike that exact same thing so she obviously either summoned by the cia to come and talk with him or um on her own approach them and had been working because she's intel too and so will the next wife be um so
36:10 It's most likely that she had already contacted his network, set everything up, came to let him know they were ready. And then he comes up for leave for two weeks and is basically given the key and walks out the door. During the holiday pass, he made trips to Wiesbaden, which is in central Germany, and Berchtesgaden.
36:40 a small German town in the Bavarian Alps on the Austrian border. Berchtesgaden is an amazing place. Hitler's wartime home, the Eagle's Nest Retreat, was located just outside of Berchtesgaden. At Berchtesgaden, army counterintelligence agents were alerted to Skorzeny and Rad's arrival.
37:08 The field agents reported to headquarters asking for clarification of the status. Specifically, they wanted to know if it was an authorized visit and if any action should be taken. Another interesting detail is that Skorzeny and Rad had been visiting with a woman named Gerda Christian, who was the former secretary of Hitler. In fact, Gerda...
37:37 Christian was one of Hitler's closest secretaries, having escaped from the bunker in Berlin on May 1, 1945, with a breakout group led by Wilhelm Monke. Immediately after the war, Christian was wanted for testimony in the Nuremberg trials, but despite being held at the time by the U.S. intelligence, she mysteriously vanished because they didn't want her talking.
38:07 Going underground, she surfaced several years later in Dusseldorf, Germany, working at the Hotel Eden. Skorzeny's meeting with her remains a mystery to this day. But think about this. She obviously knows a lot. She's in U.S. custody, and it is the U.S. custodial powers that allow her to go underground.
38:39 They hide her so that she cannot provide any damning information at the Nuremberg trials, right? Because had...
38:49 She'd been available for questioning at the Nuremberg trials. Skorzeny would not have walked. Skorzeny met, as we talked about, repeatedly, directly with Hitler to arrange his missions, to include the rescue of Mussolini. He met face to face with Hitler. Nobody got to Hitler's face without this woman knowing about it. So they can't have her talking to anyone because everything that they did at Nuremberg would be exposed. So she just disappears.
39:20 She's lucky they didn't kill her. So obviously there was probably some use for her or they probably would have. That's the kind of people we're dealing with. So they also, it's also written in Skorzeny's notes that this guy has, quote, everywhere I received a pleasant welcome from old friends and new acquaintances. It was the first opportunity since my captivity to experience life without barbed wire fences.
39:57 It was a winter of starvation, for the needs of the outside were greater than we had ever imagined. Our first visit was to Hannah Reich, who lived in Oberstrussel. Hannah was a famous German test pilot and favorite of Adolf Hitler. She had made an incredibly daring flight during the battle-torn Berlin.
40:28 with Luftwaffe General Ritter von Grimm. And I don't know if y'all have ever read about that. This woman is incredible. During the final days of the Third Reich, in an effort to rescue Hitler, who refused to fly out of the capital, there's a lot of rumors, and I don't know that they're true, that she is the one that got Hitler out of there. So if he survived, this would be the woman that made that happen.
40:56 While at her home, another seemingly routine event occurred. That again had unrecorded deeper implications. Skorzeny writes in his memoirs, quote, I met a Roman Catholic priest. We had a long conversation imparted with mutual respect and understanding for each other, unquote.
41:17 There was an inference here to an agreement of some sort that may have dealt with the Vatican intel operatives facilitating the movement of former Nazis throughout Europe at the behest of U.S. intelligence. That's the rat line. Hi, Tara. Thank you for joining us, even if you're late. So this is Skorzeny while he's out on vacation.
41:45 from supposedly being held and interrogated, talking to a Catholic priest, presumably about the Rat Line operation to facilitate the exit of Nazis out of Germany and into other safe havens, which we know from reading other books, included Egypt and many countries in South America.
42:18 Their lead was up. They walk right back into Camp King with a full court press on contingency war planning being undertaken by Western intelligence. So in February of 1948, Skorzeny and Rad work at the historical detachment came to an end. This is likely related to orders emanating from General Clay that
42:53 All counterintelligence asset at Camp King had to be closed within 90 days. Arnold Silver recorded, quote, in early February 1948, we received the first signal that Oberst Rüssel's days as a center for detailed interrogation were numbered. General Clay issued a decree that Americans working for the army or military government who had been citizens less than 10 years would have to leave the zone.
43:24 within 90 days. The Grapevine had it that this degree was issued on the urging of the American Bishop Munich, then the religious affairs advisor on Clay's staff. Silver went on to describe Bishop Munich's personal aversion to the counterintel personnel, focusing on those who had fled Nazi Germany and became U.S. citizens.
43:54 This decision greatly impacted the counterintelligence in a negative way. The Colonel Silver also commented in that article that we referenced before, quote, when the decree was issued, we had another 20 first-rate experienced integrators leave, more than half of whom were affected by the decree. Attempts by G2 in Frankfurt to obtain exceptions for those
44:24 of these professionals were promptly rejected by Clay's headquarters in Berlin. General Clay, having usurped a function of the Supreme Court, there is no allowance for appeals. So just for y'all to understand, in some of the books that we've read previously, the Army counterintel had an ongoing feud with what became the CIA, i.e. the OSS, of jurisdiction. And it is likely
44:58 that someone pulling strings back in Washington, D.C., now that the CIA is up and running and we've got Skorzeny into our fold, that this specifically is pulling the army out of their mission, not the CIA. They can't have too many eyes on what's going on as we convert over from a military operation to a CIA operation, i.e. Operation Gladio.
45:27 So that's more than likely what is happening at that phase. So the orders for the closure of Camp King seem to have affected plans for Skorzeny. Just at this moment, a curious incident erupted centered on a claim that Skorzeny had rescued Hitler at the end of the war. Skorzeny referred to the individual who made the accusation as a deranged former Luftwaffe soldier.
46:02 This unsubstantiated story had been circulating in Europe for some time. Skorzeny was transferred from Camp King to Nuremberg to await the findings of this latest accusation. His stay in Nuremberg was short and the accusation against him was quickly dismissed. In fact, it was likely a fabrication, a cover story to justify bringing Skorzeny to Nuremberg to be briefed by the senior leader officials and intelligence officers on his future.
46:32 Skorzeny himself admitted that he was told to expect such contact and that he would receive instructions to assemble men for covert operations. Skorzeny also mentioned in his memoirs that among those that he had contact with during his short visit at Nuremberg were former Third Reich industrialist leaders from the steel and chemical industries. And again, the steel industry has
47:03 A repeated occurrence in this entire book. A lot of what is going on seems to be centered around industrialists associated with the steel industry. And I will just say this too. Keep in mind, the steel industry is one of the biggest benefactors of war, right? Their demand during wartime.
47:35 goes up probably by a factor of a thousand. So the whole strategy of tension, stay behind unit concept, if you wanted to have a strategy of tension to promote regional and greater scope conflict, you would have people in the steel industry egging it on.
48:05 So that's, and also the chemical industry, as he says here, he also had contact with chemical industries as well. So again, and economic experts.
48:17 So if you're going to manipulate the economy and you're going to stage terrorist events, this has to be a coordinated thing. We are going to terrorize people to get them to do certain things where the industrialists are going to want to economically be prepared, number one, for the event. And number two, if it's at a railway station, they're not going to want to be holding railroad stocks when you're blowing up a railroad, right?
48:46 advance notice of what's going to be attacked. They'll sell their position. And as soon as you attack, they buy it all back pennies on the dollar. This is a highly coordinated operation and everybody needs to understand it. The chemical industry obviously makes a boondoggle ton of money on war, strategy of tension, terror.
49:10 It is highly significant because these men will be intimately connected to Skorzeny's post-war business network within a few years of this contact. In the hours of conversation, this is a quote from Skorzeny, in the hours of conversation with these men, I learned much which helped in my later life, i.e. his fake businesses he sets up. Indeed, he did.
49:38 So that was the end of the quote. Indeed, he did. In one particular case, Heimler Slatt, who happened to be, we've talked about him a million times, he's the guy that's responsible for setting up the Bank of International Settlements. He was the right bank president and minister of economics for Hitler. He came to visit. He was universally acclaimed as a financial wizard with a brilliant mind.
50:10 He resigned his position as the right bank president in 1939 over supposed disagreements with Hitler. A lot of people think that's garbage, that he was basically just moved to a more international role in the manipulating of money. His father also was a banker who had, as a young man, lived briefly in the United States in the late 1800s. Young Heimler.
50:43 followed in his father's profession, becoming a prominent banker. He is also an economist, a politician, and founder of the German Democratic Party. During the years of the Weimar Republic, he served as the currency commissioner and president of the Reich Bank. And I don't know if y'all remember, but I'm just going to throw this in so that you do. As the currency commissioner, he's the one that came up with the creation of
51:13 What's the best way to describe it? He sold like commodity type investment, which actually had already fixed the Weimar runaway inflation problem prior to the beginning of World War II. And people who use that as an excuse for why World War II happened are liars because he had already resolved that by manipulating.
51:43 by selling basically like options in commodities to be produced by the German economy. He had already fixed all of that. The whole interim period of World War I and II as a continuation of destroying the world into this international fascist state was a couple of things. He personally is the one
52:11 behind the establishment of the Bank of International Settlements, which is where they collected all the gold and then Germany stole it from all of the countries they invaded. So it was just another money laundering. And the World Bank followed after the Bank of International Settlements was created. It was a toe in the door. And he, through his genius in economics, had solved a lot of the economic issues. So that's another lie we were told.
52:43 Okay. He never joined the Nazi party, but he was a supporter of Adolf Hitler. He served in Hitler's government of president of the Reich Bank for six years in the 30s. He was at the same time for most of those years, minister of the economics. His economic policies were credited with bringing Hitler to power. He personally rejected much of the Nazi, like the racist aspects of Nazi.
53:13 ideology supposedly he also came into direct conflict with several nazi leaders like hermann goring he secretly supported the german resistance movement that's according to him there's no actual evidence that i've seen that says that but he did write a book and he does claim that um and he also was arrested um after the attempt on hitler's
53:45 life in 1944. There are people who believe that was kind of a scheme to divorce him from the Nazi party. So he played a critical role in the aftermath of World War II. So that was kind of to whitewash him from the Nazi stink as well. He was put on trial at Nuremberg. He was found not guilty. So all of that. So being able at your trial to say, oh,
54:15 Yeah, I was charged by them attempting to be part of the plot that killed Hitler. So you see how they can use that. You just have to be very careful about all of this stuff because so much of it is now being proved as things come out. Like this guy's exposure of the Skorzeny Papers reveals much of everything that we were told about the history of World War II is a lie.
54:45 While living in Nazi Germany during the war, he used his international connections to establish clandestine contacts with Americans and specifically Alan Dulles. So a lot of this occurred because he did a tour in America in the interwar period. But he's also the one that was responsible for funding through Rights Bank the...
55:15 creation of all those industrial plants in Russia, Soviet Union, during those interim war years. So he helped facilitate the war production machine of Hitler by the munition plants, aircraft plants that were set up in the Soviet Union in those interim war periods because they were not allowed to be built on German soil.
55:43 People, you have to get your head around this. Germany used the Soviets. Both Britain and the United States funded the Soviets' creation, the Bolsheviks. Every industrialist in every country, Germany, England, the Netherlands, New York, all funded the industrialization.
56:11 of the Soviet Union while it was the Soviet Union. GE electrified the entire apparatus of the Soviet Union. All of the cities, our industrialists built all the railroads over there. They did the Red Cross mission over there with all of these people and planned all of it under the auspices of the Red Cross. They were there for months. Warburg ends up being like their international bank president.
56:41 in the soviet union so the fact that they're saying these were our enemy is ludicrous and then the soviet union goes to war with us much like um uh ho chi minh in vietnam as part of world war ii fighting the japanese for us um and then as soon as we're done we're like okay now you get to tag you're it you're going to be the enemy now that's literally what it seems like happened
57:09 Because they're all in bed together. It's just a matter of who draws the short straw. They're going to get deemed the enemy this time. So anyway, this is very important because concerning Skorzeny's links to the CIA, it was Alan Dulles who had worked behind the scenes to facilitate Slatt's not guilty verdict at Nuremberg. Slatt's also surface again.
57:37 in our story and plays a high-profile role in the post-war intrigue concerning Skorzeny, tying directly to Skorzeny's business dealings in steel, oil, and other industries. All of this is done for the industrialists and these tyrannical governments to make money. After Nuremberg, Skorzeny and Rad were reunited at Camp King and then transferred to an internment camp
58:09 another one in Germany, to go through a program known as denazification. This was an administrative process to ensure that the individual in question did not retain any Nazi ideology. It was a joke. Prior to Skorzeny's departure from Camp King, Arnold Silver received a warning from intelligence concerning a Soviet plan to kidnap Skorzeny.
58:42 Intelligence had already confirmed other plots, such as one targeting German intel officer Richard Klatter, alias Klatt. Klatter was also being held at Camp King for his protection in interrogation, quote unquote. Probably just another one of Skorzeny's associates. Under the kidnap plan, the Soviets intended to use Skorzeny's brother, Alfred, who was in Soviet captivity.
59:13 to Lorskorzeny and to Berlin, where he would be captured. Once he was taken captive, according to Silver, quote, that planned to use him as a rallying point for the youth of the Berlin zone, unquote. The Soviets tended to achieve by force in a special operations what they had been unable to do by persuasion. Silver was referencing the Russians.
59:40 Soviets, not Russians, first attempt to recruit Skorzeny during the earliest days of his imprisonment as a POW. At that time, Russian interrogators visiting Skorzeny's internment facility had offered him a lucrative job working for them, but he had flatly turned them down. Now, keep in mind, because the Soviets were allies, when people were placed in Nuremberg or Camp King,
1:00:10 The Soviets got equal access to these people, as did the Brits, the U.S., the French, and blah, blah, blah. So because supposedly we were all on the same side. But we routinely blindsided the Soviets during the Nuremberg trials, like with this kind of crap, where we introduced this fake evidence to get these people freed, having already worked with them.
1:00:39 and had their commitment to us in the bag, because otherwise they would not have been found not guilty. If at any time they thought that any of these people were going to go work for the Soviets, you can damn sure bet that they won't be found not guilty. And as a matter of fact, you could almost say that the ones who were lynched, hung at Nuremberg, probably already had deals with the Soviets. I don't know that for a fact. It would not surprise me at this point.
1:01:09 That's the kind of people we're dealing with. Mistaking Alfred for Otto, his brother. So Skorzeny's first name is Otto. His brother's name's Alfred. They yanked him from the sidewalk and pushed him into a waiting automobile. So supposedly the Soviets thought they were kidnapping Otto at the time. The Soviets realized their mistake almost immediately. They brutally interrogated.
1:01:38 and placed him into solitary confinement. He was held there for three years. When released from solitary, he was a broken man and continued to be held until 1954. He never recovered from this ordeal. And as a result, now you know that Skorzeny has this, not that he didn't already not like the Soviets, he probably like totally hates them now. So that gets us to chapter six.
1:02:05 Um, it's 11. So we're going to call it a day. Chapter six is the white rabbit sends a letter. Um, and, um, we will, um, proceed from there. It just keeps getting better people. Um, again, thank you for joining us and, um, I will see you guys Sunday night. I think is our next, um,
1:02:34 At seven is our next broadcast, but I'll default to my posted schedule that's pinned on both of my profiles on X and True Social. Again, Angie, my girlfriend, the call 2021. Love you, girl. Thanks for being here and adding to the conversation. We are going to just for all of you that are out there.
1:03:05 I'm looking for ways where we can have, um, more interaction. And that kind of is why I agreed to do this new, um, spaces on Monday, because there is a way, um, the, the girl that's going to be hosting it, um, Q Ellie, um, like jelly only with a Q, um, was talking to
1:03:33 to me about how this whole thing works and people can talk. I guess there's a way of like raising your hand on spaces. I've never done one. I've listened to a few of them, but I've never interacted with it. So I'm completely clueless on how the whole thing operates. So she's going to host the whole thing. And basically we're going to go over the overview of what Operation Gladio is.
1:04:00 What I will do is try to tie in all of these other names that we have figured out also pertain to it to give people kind of a broad strategic overview of what it is, how it's set up, and what its purpose is. And if y'all have any, and this is the perfect audience to ask, what part of Operation Gladio hit you the hardest?
1:04:29 uncovered the entire operation. What was like your aha moment that this is number one, no shit for real. And what stands out as the most vivid.
1:04:47 recollection out of the books that we have reviewed, because if it was one particular event, I want to make sure that I use that Monday night. We know about the bombing of the bank. We know about the P2, the Masonic Lodge that was embedded into all of Italy to include the Vatican hierarchy when that's against canon law.
1:05:11 the fact that it was the vatican that was money laundering um the fact that it stretches all across the world what things that that has been uncovered in our books was the most striking to you because at this point i'm like on book 13. um there's so much crammed into my head um that it just kind of just flows out of me at this point and i want to make sure that if there um
1:05:39 Is specific events that or information that we've uncovered that was kind of your, my gosh, this is true. I will share with you and then I'm going to go. We have a guy here doing our garage floor. He spent eight years in the Navy. I don't know why he got out. I didn't ask. Obviously very patriotic. And I spent about an hour.
1:06:09 after he was here giving us the quote, we'd already signed all the paperwork to do the job. I forget even how the conversation started, but I shared with him kind of my, you know, having been in the military for 30 years, discovery that we're living a lie and how difficult it is for people who have been in the military to accept that.
1:06:40 And I think we talked a little bit about the whole vaccine and the lying there and blah, blah, blah. And so when, towards the end of the hour, I went over Operation Gladio and that type of thing. I'm laughing at Liza. Banned five times. Honey, I've already talked to you. I'm just saying hello to Angie.
1:07:11 Liza's the one that had the puppy hat chomping story as well. So anyway, I'm having this conversation with him and his eyes are just like wide open. He's like, where can I find out information? And I, of course, told him about our book reviews and sent him the link for Rumble. And I told him, I said, you got to sit down and watch this with your wife. If you have kids, show it to them.
1:07:42 We have to have, and he goes, so do you have meetings? How can, I want to be part of this. And so I'm really thinking about, especially here in Central Florida, trying to get a group together that we could actually do also over Zoom, but with like a live group of people, my neighbors, my family, whatever, so that.
1:08:09 You can have that interaction and we can all learn from each other. And I think that would be very important. So direct him to the Paul Williams late night radio interview. You're right, Liza. That's a very good idea. I will definitely do that because that was very eye-opening. You're right. That's a great idea. As a matter of fact, I'm going to find that link.
1:08:36 Um, I will have it ready for our Monday night cause that definitely needs to be put in the comments, um, for, um, people to do further research on it. Um, because Paul Williams, obviously having done all of that research is much better at it than I am. Um, and that's a great idea. So, um, I'm also going to look through here. Um, um,
1:09:02 So Liza, can you find that and put it in the comments for us if you wouldn't mind? Cause Tara's asking about where that is. Yeah. Thank you Liza for doing that. That is the one. Okay. So I'm going to tell y'all this story because this is part of how we grow as people. We lost at the very beginning of our operation Gladio and this group, all of you, Bridget, Liza.
1:09:30 Tara, y'all have been with us for, um, um, Julie, um, for a long time from the beginning, actually, um, of creating the, um, hashtag international syndicate page, all of this. So we had three other people with us on this journey. We lost them. Um, and we lost them because of the Paul Williams book. They were claiming that he basically was an atheist and, um,
1:09:59 talking out of turn about the Vatican and the Catholic Church. As it turns out, and I forget which one of you, somebody found the Paul Williams clip, video, not a clip. I mean, it's a long video. And he's actually Catholic. So he wasn't atheist. He was somebody that was genuinely concerned of the corruption of the church and was exposing it.
1:10:23 These three people that had been great researchers, one I had spent a weekend with in Nashville, just a wonderful person. They could not handle the truth. That's going to happen. And I caveat every time we talk about this stuff that we all have rice bowls. We all have the thing. And mine was the military.
1:10:47 The military is honorable. The military is patriots. The military is not beyond corruption. I mean, I experienced the corruption. I know that. But as an institution, it's great to realize NATO's entire history is operating a terror network. That literally is what NATO is.
1:11:13 And no one's ever going to convince me differently now. Its purpose was to administer Operation Gladio. Everything else, its creation was Nazi-driven. The terror network it set up was done as a legacy Nazi operation. And I will never be convinced any differently. So that's a military institution.
1:11:42 So my rice bowl got filled with pee. Everything about it. Just have to throw the whole rice bowl out. And everybody on this journey. Thank you, Liza. Everybody on this journey is going to experience the exact same thing. Some part of what you think in your intimate whatever as being good.
1:12:10 It's going to get destroyed, whether it was our belief in the medical or that your doctor personally was good, maybe not the entire medical industry, because there's just so much corruption and evil, just flat out evil. So anyway, I wanted to add that. I want y'all to know that this is personal for all of us here that's been here this entire time, helping expose all of this.
1:12:41 And I care dearly about every one of you. And thank you very much for being here and going through the raw emotion of exposing this evilness. And I will stop at nothing to continue this mission. Literally every day for hours on end, I'm sending people either DMs or whatever. People probably think I'm a creep.
1:13:08 operation gladio operation gladio operation gladio i want everybody to understand that so again i'm going to cut and paste this so that um the link that liza provided in the actual comments to it once we get done well i think i can do it now um because i want um that i don't know whether the chat stays um up
1:13:32 But we definitely want that linked because that is so important. And thank you, Liza, for bringing that up. I will definitely put that in my notes. Anyway, yeah, Bridget, you're right. We have such a great team here. Bridget goes behind the scenes. So does Liza.
1:13:53 and, uh, Carby on, um, true social all the time behind the scenes, always shooting me links, um, to look at different things. And most of everything that they send ends up being incorporated, um, into, um, these presentations because they're, it's critical and it's like having, you know, five other sets of eyes on everything.
1:14:20 And together we can piece the whole thing together. I hope you're all available on Monday for the live chat because I know y'all will add immeasurably to not only the comments, but also you'll be able to have a speaking point. And I would love for you to have a speaking point. I would love for you to share your experience of having participated in these revelations from the beginning. I would absolutely love that.
1:14:50 Y'all raise your hand at that spaces thing. I forget exactly what time it is. I pinned the flyer to both of my accounts because I want y'all to be able to express that as well. Anyway, thank you. I'll ramble on forever. I appreciate you being here and I will see you Sunday night and then hopefully again on Monday. Thanks for being here.

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Otto Skorzeny found_not_guilty_in Nuremberg trials host_asserted ▶ 0:05
“Make sure the settings are good. Yep. Everything's good to go. Okay. Give me a sound check and we're going to jump right into the book. So we left off where they had through the Nuremberg trials, whic…”
Camp King located_in Frankfurt documented ▶ 11:36
“They were instead sent to a Camp King, K-I-N-G, and that was located in the northwest area of Frankfurt. In hindsight, we now know that that request was a complete ruse and merely a cover to bring bot…”
Otto Skorzeny located_in Camp King documented ▶ 11:36
“They were instead sent to a Camp King, K-I-N-G, and that was located in the northwest area of Frankfurt. In hindsight, we now know that that request was a complete ruse and merely a cover to bring bot…”
Camp King part_of Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 11:36
“They were instead sent to a Camp King, K-I-N-G, and that was located in the northwest area of Frankfurt. In hindsight, we now know that that request was a complete ruse and merely a cover to bring bot…”
Camp King part_of Compass Rose host_asserted ▶ 11:36
“They were instead sent to a Camp King, K-I-N-G, and that was located in the northwest area of Frankfurt. In hindsight, we now know that that request was a complete ruse and merely a cover to bring bot…”
Carl Radd located_in Camp King documented ▶ 11:36
“They were instead sent to a Camp King, K-I-N-G, and that was located in the northwest area of Frankfurt. In hindsight, we now know that that request was a complete ruse and merely a cover to bring bot…”
7707th European Command Intel Center located_in Camp King documented ▶ 12:38
“European Command Intel Center. The acronym is ECIC. The mission of ECIC was the exploitation of persons and documents for intelligence purposes. It was one of the most highly classified areas in the o…”
Roy Thurowman headed Camp King documented ▶ 13:01
“So they interrogated German scientists, intel officers, and other prisoners of war valued to be high-value targets at Camp King. The commanding officer at Camp King was Colonel Roy Thurowman, literall…”
Johnson Taylor member_of Camp King documented ▶ 13:01
“So they interrogated German scientists, intel officers, and other prisoners of war valued to be high-value targets at Camp King. The commanding officer at Camp King was Colonel Roy Thurowman, literall…”
Harold Pote headed 7734th History Detachment documented ▶ 13:57
“technical, counterintelligence, military, and special intelligence, like espionage. That's basically the deaths that were set up. The intel chief there was a Captain Henry Scard, like S-C-H-A-R-D-T, w…”
Henry Shard headed 7734th History Detachment documented ▶ 13:57
“technical, counterintelligence, military, and special intelligence, like espionage. That's basically the deaths that were set up. The intel chief there was a Captain Henry Scard, like S-C-H-A-R-D-T, w…”
Otto Skorzeny member_of 7734th History Detachment documented ▶ 14:31
“So as to not draw attention to the real reason they were sent to Camp King, it was Potter's unit that Skorzeny and Rad were assigned to upon their arrival at Camp King. So they're assigned to the hist…”
Theodore Moraxis member_of 7734th History Detachment documented ▶ 14:31
“So as to not draw attention to the real reason they were sent to Camp King, it was Potter's unit that Skorzeny and Rad were assigned to upon their arrival at Camp King. So they're assigned to the hist…”
Carl Radd member_of 7734th History Detachment documented ▶ 14:31
“So as to not draw attention to the real reason they were sent to Camp King, it was Potter's unit that Skorzeny and Rad were assigned to upon their arrival at Camp King. So they're assigned to the hist…”
Arnold Silver interrogated Otto Skorzeny documented ▶ 15:01
“Keep in mind the names Captain Scard and Captain Metaxas because they come back again and again. The interrogation of Skorzeny at Camp King were personally conducted by Arnold Silver, a senior U.S. Ar…”
Otto Skorzeny located_in Alaska House documented ▶ 19:54
“Skorzeny and Rad was brought to Camp King for special processing by intel was in the manner that they were first received. For example, immediately after they arrived, Colonel Porter arranged for the …”
Carl Radd located_in Alaska House documented ▶ 19:54
“Skorzeny and Rad was brought to Camp King for special processing by intel was in the manner that they were first received. For example, immediately after they arrived, Colonel Porter arranged for the …”
Camp King part_of Project Paperclip host_asserted ▶ 22:28
“who, by virtue of their wartime function, had considerable knowledge of Soviet industries. Camp King served as the main location for screening and processing of German scientists. And I think that's a…”
Wernher von Braun part_of Project Paperclip host_asserted ▶ 23:00
“which brought some notable scientists like Warner Von Braun to the States. So that was all being done at Camp King. So basically Camp King is an in-processing center for those of us who's been in the …”
Arnold Silver allied_with Strategic Services Unit book_quoted ▶ 23:32
“Camp King, Arnold Silver was aware of most, if not all, of the classified programs at the camp. In that interview, questions, questions, questions, he maintained close alliance with the Strategic Serv…”
Arnold Silver member_of Camp King documented ▶ 23:32
“Camp King, Arnold Silver was aware of most, if not all, of the classified programs at the camp. In that interview, questions, questions, questions, he maintained close alliance with the Strategic Serv…”
Allen Dulles founded Document Disposal Unit host_asserted ▶ 24:38
“There was a unit called Documents Disposal Unit. The documentary evidence is confusing, but it appears that the Document Disposal Unit, DDU, was a subordinate unit of the War Department Detachment, i.…”
Document Disposal Unit related_to Documents Research Division host_asserted ▶ 25:11
“by former SS, SD, and Gestapo agents. The DDU apparently emerged from or had a relationship with the documents research unit. So in other words, they're going to go through all of the documents and th…”
Documents Research Division activated_in London documented ▶ 25:11
“by former SS, SD, and Gestapo agents. The DDU apparently emerged from or had a relationship with the documents research unit. So in other words, they're going to go through all of the documents and th…”
Walter Rothschild headed Documents Research Division documented ▶ 25:40
“in June of 1945. It was initially headed by First Lieutenant Walter Rothschild. Despite the rank and title, it was not a military entity. Many of the OSS and SOE, which is the UK's version, staff were…”
Otto Skorzeny evaluated_by Arnold Silver book_quoted ▶ 29:16
“In the field, the DDU worked very closely with Army counterintelligence. Many years after his tour of duty at Camp King, Arnold Silver stated that he was responsible for recommending Skorzeny's dispos…”
Klaus Barbie located_in Camp King documented ▶ 29:45
“Interestingly, Silver had the same responsibilities for the infamous Gestapo chief, Captain Kloss Barbie, who is better known as the Butcher of Lyon, who arrived nearly simultaneously at Camp King as …”
Arnold Silver responsible_for_disposition_of Klaus Barbie book_quoted ▶ 29:45
“Interestingly, Silver had the same responsibilities for the infamous Gestapo chief, Captain Kloss Barbie, who is better known as the Butcher of Lyon, who arrived nearly simultaneously at Camp King as …”
Document Disposal Unit part_of Operation Harvard documented ▶ 30:13
“was thus a veiled reference to the control of Skorzeny by the DDU, a fate also shared by Kloss Barbie. At the time of Skorzeny's stay at Camp King, the DDU was involved with a project to provide safe …”
Lewis Kubler headed Document Disposal Unit documented ▶ 30:42
“A declassified draft working paper of the history of the CIA reveals that the disposal unit, the DDU, had two sections. One under a Lieutenant Colonel Lewis Kubler and another at Frankfurt under the O…”
Lucien Conein headed Document Disposal Unit documented ▶ 30:42
“A declassified draft working paper of the history of the CIA reveals that the disposal unit, the DDU, had two sections. One under a Lieutenant Colonel Lewis Kubler and another at Frankfurt under the O…”
Lucien Conein member_of Strategic Services Unit documented ▶ 32:40
“He made his way back to the U.S. and was assigned to the OSS due to his language proficiency and experience in fighting Germans. Koning was eventually transferred to the Pacific, where he conducted co…”
Lucien Conein evacuated_individuals_to United States book_quoted ▶ 33:10
“transitional period when the OSS was dissolved and reformed into the CIA. Koenig would be dispatched by the agency to Vietnam as part of the military advisor team. He shows up everywhere, people. Acco…”
Lucien Conein operated_in North Vietnam documented ▶ 33:10
“transitional period when the OSS was dissolved and reformed into the CIA. Koenig would be dispatched by the agency to Vietnam as part of the military advisor team. He shows up everywhere, people. Acco…”
Lucien Conein evacuated_individuals_to South America book_quoted ▶ 33:10
“transitional period when the OSS was dissolved and reformed into the CIA. Koenig would be dispatched by the agency to Vietnam as part of the military advisor team. He shows up everywhere, people. Acco…”
Gretel Skorzeny worked_for Reich Main Security Office documented ▶ 34:41
“The next area, on December 6th, Skorzeny received a surprise visit from his former wife, Gretel. Their marriage had not lasted long, but during the war, she worked for the Reich Main Security Office a…”
Carl Radd granted_pass_by Camp King documented ▶ 35:11
“received a very unusual 14-day Christmas path to leave Camp King on their own and return on their honor in a timely fashion. The bizarre pass would allow Skorzeny to have the freedom of movement. It's…”
Otto Skorzeny granted_pass_by Camp King documented ▶ 35:11
“received a very unusual 14-day Christmas path to leave Camp King on their own and return on their honor in a timely fashion. The bizarre pass would allow Skorzeny to have the freedom of movement. It's…”
Otto Skorzeny visited Wiesbaden book_quoted ▶ 36:10
“It's most likely that she had already contacted his network, set everything up, came to let him know they were ready. And then he comes up for leave for two weeks and is basically given the key and wa…”
Otto Skorzeny visited Berchtesgaden book_quoted ▶ 36:10
“It's most likely that she had already contacted his network, set everything up, came to let him know they were ready. And then he comes up for leave for two weeks and is basically given the key and wa…”
Eagle's Nest located_in Berchtesgaden documented ▶ 36:40
“a small German town in the Bavarian Alps on the Austrian border. Berchtesgaden is an amazing place. Hitler's wartime home, the Eagle's Nest Retreat, was located just outside of Berchtesgaden. At Berch…”
Otto Skorzeny visited Gerda Christian book_quoted ▶ 37:08
“The field agents reported to headquarters asking for clarification of the status. Specifically, they wanted to know if it was an authorized visit and if any action should be taken. Another interesting…”
Gerda Christian escaped_from West Berlin documented ▶ 37:37
“Christian was one of Hitler's closest secretaries, having escaped from the bunker in Berlin on May 1, 1945, with a breakout group led by Wilhelm Monke. Immediately after the war, Christian was wanted …”
Gerda Christian member_of Nazi Party documented ▶ 37:37
“Christian was one of Hitler's closest secretaries, having escaped from the bunker in Berlin on May 1, 1945, with a breakout group led by Wilhelm Monke. Immediately after the war, Christian was wanted …”
Wilhelm Monke led Gerda Christian documented ▶ 37:37
“Christian was one of Hitler's closest secretaries, having escaped from the bunker in Berlin on May 1, 1945, with a breakout group led by Wilhelm Monke. Immediately after the war, Christian was wanted …”
Gerda Christian held_by United States host_asserted ▶ 37:37
“Christian was one of Hitler's closest secretaries, having escaped from the bunker in Berlin on May 1, 1945, with a breakout group led by Wilhelm Monke. Immediately after the war, Christian was wanted …”
Gerda Christian worked_at Hotel Eden book_quoted ▶ 38:07
“Going underground, she surfaced several years later in Dusseldorf, Germany, working at the Hotel Eden. Skorzeny's meeting with her remains a mystery to this day. But think about this. She obviously kn…”
Otto Skorzeny met_with Adolf Hitler documented ▶ 38:49
“She'd been available for questioning at the Nuremberg trials. Skorzeny would not have walked. Skorzeny met, as we talked about, repeatedly, directly with Hitler to arrange his missions, to include the…”
Otto Skorzeny carried_out_attack Rescue of Benito Mussolini documented ▶ 38:49
“She'd been available for questioning at the Nuremberg trials. Skorzeny would not have walked. Skorzeny met, as we talked about, repeatedly, directly with Hitler to arrange his missions, to include the…”
Hanna Reitsch member_of Luftwaffe documented ▶ 39:57
“It was a winter of starvation, for the needs of the outside were greater than we had ever imagined. Our first visit was to Hannah Reich, who lived in Oberstrussel. Hannah was a famous German test pilo…”
Otto Skorzeny visited Hanna Reitsch book_quoted ▶ 39:57
“It was a winter of starvation, for the needs of the outside were greater than we had ever imagined. Our first visit was to Hannah Reich, who lived in Oberstrussel. Hannah was a famous German test pilo…”
Hanna Reitsch flew_with Ritter von Grimm documented ▶ 40:28
“with Luftwaffe General Ritter von Grimm. And I don't know if y'all have ever read about that. This woman is incredible. During the final days of the Third Reich, in an effort to rescue Hitler, who ref…”
Ratline facilitated_movement_to Egypt book_quoted ▶ 41:45
“from supposedly being held and interrogated, talking to a Catholic priest, presumably about the Rat Line operation to facilitate the exit of Nazis out of Germany and into other safe havens, which we k…”
Ratline facilitated_movement_to South America book_quoted ▶ 41:45
“from supposedly being held and interrogated, talking to a Catholic priest, presumably about the Rat Line operation to facilitate the exit of Nazis out of Germany and into other safe havens, which we k…”
Otto Skorzeny held_at Camp King book_quoted ▶ 42:18
“Their lead was up. They walk right back into Camp King with a full court press on contingency war planning being undertaken by Western intelligence. So in February of 1948, Skorzeny and Rad work at th…”
Lucius Clay ordered_closure_of Camp King book_quoted ▶ 42:53
“All counterintelligence asset at Camp King had to be closed within 90 days. Arnold Silver recorded, quote, in early February 1948, we received the first signal that Oberst Rüssel's days as a center fo…”
Bishop Munich urged Lucius Clay book_quoted ▶ 43:24
“within 90 days. The Grapevine had it that this degree was issued on the urging of the American Bishop Munich, then the religious affairs advisor on Clay's staff. Silver went on to describe Bishop Muni…”
Otto Skorzeny met_with Hjalmar Schacht book_quoted ▶ 49:38
“So that was the end of the quote. Indeed, he did. In one particular case, Heimler Slatt, who happened to be, we've talked about him a million times, he's the guy that's responsible for setting up the …”
Hjalmar Schacht member_of Democratic Party documented ▶ 50:43
“followed in his father's profession, becoming a prominent banker. He is also an economist, a politician, and founder of the German Democratic Party. During the years of the Weimar Republic, he served …”
Hjalmar Schacht founded Bank for International Settlements host_asserted ▶ 52:11
“behind the establishment of the Bank of International Settlements, which is where they collected all the gold and then Germany stole it from all of the countries they invaded. So it was just another m…”
Hjalmar Schacht supported Adolf Hitler documented ▶ 52:43
“Okay. He never joined the Nazi party, but he was a supporter of Adolf Hitler. He served in Hitler's government of president of the Reich Bank for six years in the 30s. He was at the same time for most…”
Hjalmar Schacht headed Reichsbank documented ▶ 52:43
“Okay. He never joined the Nazi party, but he was a supporter of Adolf Hitler. He served in Hitler's government of president of the Reich Bank for six years in the 30s. He was at the same time for most…”
Hjalmar Schacht tried_at Nuremberg trials documented ▶ 53:45
“life in 1944. There are people who believe that was kind of a scheme to divorce him from the Nazi party. So he played a critical role in the aftermath of World War II. So that was kind of to whitewash…”
Hjalmar Schacht established_contacts_with Allen Dulles book_quoted ▶ 54:45
“While living in Nazi Germany during the war, he used his international connections to establish clandestine contacts with Americans and specifically Alan Dulles. So a lot of this occurred because he d…”
Hjalmar Schacht funded Soviet Union host_asserted ▶ 55:15
“creation of all those industrial plants in Russia, Soviet Union, during those interim war years. So he helped facilitate the war production machine of Hitler by the munition plants, aircraft plants th…”
United States funded Soviet Union host_asserted ▶ 55:43
“People, you have to get your head around this. Germany used the Soviets. Both Britain and the United States funded the Soviets' creation, the Bolsheviks. Every industrialist in every country, Germany,…”
Allen Dulles facilitated_verdict_for Hjalmar Schacht host_asserted ▶ 57:09
“Because they're all in bed together. It's just a matter of who draws the short straw. They're going to get deemed the enemy this time. So anyway, this is very important because concerning Skorzeny's l…”
Otto Skorzeny transferred_to Camp King book_quoted ▶ 57:37
“in our story and plays a high-profile role in the post-war intrigue concerning Skorzeny, tying directly to Skorzeny's business dealings in steel, oil, and other industries. All of this is done for the…”
Soviet Union attempted_kidnapping_of Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 58:42
“Intelligence had already confirmed other plots, such as one targeting German intel officer Richard Klatter, alias Klatt. Klatter was also being held at Camp King for his protection in interrogation, q…”
Richard Klatt held_at Camp King book_quoted ▶ 58:42
“Intelligence had already confirmed other plots, such as one targeting German intel officer Richard Klatter, alias Klatt. Klatter was also being held at Camp King for his protection in interrogation, q…”
Otto Skorzeny rejected_recruitment_by Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 59:40
“Soviets, not Russians, first attempt to recruit Skorzeny during the earliest days of his imprisonment as a POW. At that time, Russian interrogators visiting Skorzeny's internment facility had offered …”
Soviet Union attempted_recruitment_of Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 59:40
“Soviets, not Russians, first attempt to recruit Skorzeny during the earliest days of his imprisonment as a POW. At that time, Russian interrogators visiting Skorzeny's internment facility had offered …”
Soviet Union held Alfred Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 1:01:09
“That's the kind of people we're dealing with. Mistaking Alfred for Otto, his brother. So Skorzeny's first name is Otto. His brother's name's Alfred. They yanked him from the sidewalk and pushed him in…”
Soviet Union interrogated Alfred Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 1:01:09
“That's the kind of people we're dealing with. Mistaking Alfred for Otto, his brother. So Skorzeny's first name is Otto. His brother's name's Alfred. They yanked him from the sidewalk and pushed him in…”
Paul L. Williams exposed Catholic Church host_asserted ▶ 1:09:59
“talking out of turn about the Vatican and the Catholic Church. As it turns out, and I forget which one of you, somebody found the Paul Williams clip, video, not a clip. I mean, it's a long video. And …”
NATO operated_in Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:11:13
“And no one's ever going to convince me differently now. Its purpose was to administer Operation Gladio. Everything else, its creation was Nazi-driven. The terror network it set up was done as a legacy…”
NATO founded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:11:13
“And no one's ever going to convince me differently now. Its purpose was to administer Operation Gladio. Everything else, its creation was Nazi-driven. The terror network it set up was done as a legacy…”
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