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Claims (74)
Walter Rothschild operated_in
Frankfurt documented
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“the Frankfort agent (Rothschild)…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.113
Le Monnier met_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Herr Rothschild [no doubt Amschel Meyer], whom I often meet at Count Buol’s as well as at Baron von Handel’s, has asked me to allow him to send his letters to his brother in my bag.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.237
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Laffitte documented
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“This government borrowed the necessary money, the loans being taken up by a French syndicate, including Rothschild and Laffitte.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.341
Walter Rothschild funded
France documented
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“This government borrowed the necessary money, the loans being taken up by a French syndicate, including Rothschild and Laffitte.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.341
Auguste de Marmont did_business_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“The duke did apply to Solomon Rothschild...…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.342
Walter Rothschild met_with
Klemens von Metternich documented
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“He therefore wrote to Metternich: “I would not have entered into any negotiations in this matter without having previously asked your Highness’s consent...…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.342
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Austrian Government documented
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“Rothschild, however, firmly adhered to the position that the Austrian government must give her full expressed consent to the arrangement, if he entered into it.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.343
Walter Rothschild member_of
Zionist Federation documented
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“In Britain, Lord Walter Rothschild played a significant political role as a leading member of the Zionist Federation and served as an intermediary between the British government and Zionist leaders such as Chaim Weizmann and was the address…”
source: url — Rothschild family · p.1
Walter Rothschild met_with
Chaim Weizmann documented
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“In Britain, Lord Walter Rothschild played a significant political role as a leading member of the Zionist Federation and served as an intermediary between the British government and Zionist leaders such as Chaim Weizmann and was the address…”
source: url — Rothschild family · p.1
Victor Rothschild family_of
Walter Rothschild documented
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“His nephew, Victor, Lord Rothschild was against granting asylum or helping Jewish refugees in 1938.…”
source: url — Rothschild family · p.1
Walter Rothschild family_of
Rothschild family documented
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“Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild (1868–1937), zoologist…”
source: url — Rothschild family · p.1
Walter Rothschild succeeded
Nathan Rothschild, 1st Baron Rothschild documented
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“...he died in March 1915 and his title was inherited by Walter.…”
source: url — Balfour Declaration · p.1
Chaim Weizmann met_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Six days later, at a meeting on 19 June, Balfour asked Lord Rothschild and Weizmann to submit a formula for a declaration.…”
source: url — Balfour Declaration · p.1
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Arthur Balfour documented
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“Following further discussion, a revised – and at just 46 words in length, much shorter – draft declaration was prepared and sent by Lord Rothschild to Balfour on 18 July.…”
source: url — Balfour Declaration · p.1
Arthur Balfour did_business_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“The agreed version of the declaration, a single sentence of just 67 words, was sent on 2 November 1917 in a short letter from Balfour to Walter Rothschild...…”
source: url — Balfour Declaration · p.1
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland documented
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“...for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.…”
source: url — Balfour Declaration · p.1
Walter Rothschild linked_to
Balfour Declaration reported
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“An accompanying Foreign Office note asserted that the primary authors of the declaration were Balfour, Sykes, Weizmann, and Sokolow, with "perhaps Lord Rothschild as a figure in the background"...…”
source: url — Balfour Declaration · p.1
Walter Rothschild sold_to
British Museum documented
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“The document was presented to the British Museum in 1924 by Walter Rothschild...…”
source: url — Balfour Declaration · p.1
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Ernst Hartert documented
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“Of these, 27 were co-authored with Ernst Hartert and 16 with Karl Jordan.…”
source: url — Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild · p.1
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Karl Jordan documented
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“Of these, 27 were co-authored with Ernst Hartert and 16 with Karl Jordan.…”
source: url — Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild · p.1
Walter Rothschild funded
London School of Economics documented
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“He succeeded and - with the most active help from Beatrice - went on to secure endowments and gifts from great financial and industrial institutions, as well as from such rich men as Rothschild and Passmore Edwards.…”
source: book — The Life and Times of Sidney and Beatrice Webb, 1858-1905 · p.305
Walter Rothschild funded
Hayes Industrial School documented
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“Her son Walter contributed £5,000 to the costs of the Hayes Industrial School set up in 1901 for Jewish young offenders, nearly a third of the total.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. EIGHT Jewish Questions
Walter Rothschild family_of
Nathaniel Rothschild documented
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“His son Walter echoed this view.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. EIGHT Jewish Questions
Cecil Rhodes did_business_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“CECIL RHODES TO LORD ROTHSCHILD, 1888.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. ELEVEN The Risks and Returns of Empire (1885-1902)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Gustav von Bleichröder documented
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“In August 1890 Natty’s son Walter wrote to Bleichröder urging him to “use your powerful influence at St. Petersburg...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. TWELVE Finances and Alliances (1885-1906)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Evelyn Baring, 1st Earl of Cromer documented
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“Still, the Rothschilds added their voice to the argument for Anglo-French compromise over Egypt when Natty’s son Walter told Cromer that “our cousins in Paris” were prepared to support his plans for redeeming part of the Egyptian debt only …”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. TWELVE Finances and Alliances (1885-1906)
Walter Rothschild member_of
N. M. Rothschild and Sons documented
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“This coincided with an “absolute” refusal “to have anything to do with a Russian loan,” as Walter informed Herbert Gladstone.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. TWELVE Finances and Alliances (1885-1906)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Herbert Gladstone documented
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“This coincided with an “absolute” refusal “to have anything to do with a Russian loan,” as Walter informed Herbert Gladstone.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. TWELVE Finances and Alliances (1885-1906)
Walter Rothschild member_of
Rothschild family documented
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“Even within the Rothschild family, there was division, with Natty’s son Walter winning Mid Bucks as a Unionist Free Trader...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. THIRTEEN The Military-Financial Complex (1906-1914)
Walter Rothschild member_of
Unionist Party documented
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“...with Natty’s son Walter winning Mid Bucks as a Unionist Free Trader...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. THIRTEEN The Military-Financial Complex (1906-1914)
Walter Rothschild worked_for
Liberal Party documented
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“...and even going so far as to vote with the Liberal government against the Chamberlainites in March 1906...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. THIRTEEN The Military-Financial Complex (1906-1914)
Nathaniel de Rothschild family_of
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Even within the Rothschild family, there was division, with Natty’s son Walter winning Mid Bucks...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. THIRTEEN The Military-Financial Complex (1906-1914)
Walter Rothschild studied_at
University of Bonn documented
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“Walter had begun collecting animals, stuffed and live, at the age of six and was already a knowledgeable zoologist when he went to study natural science at the University of Bonn and then at Cambridge.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild studied_at
University of Cambridge documented
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“Walter had begun collecting animals, stuffed and live, at the age of six and was already a knowledgeable zoologist when he went to study natural science at the University of Bonn and then at Cambridge.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Nathaniel Rothschild family_of
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Natty’s eldest son Walter had begun collecting animals...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild worked_for
Rothschild family documented
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“But the expectation persisted that he would follow in his forefathers’ footsteps and enter the bank, a notion abandoned only in 1908...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Charles Rothschild family_of
Walter Rothschild documented
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“His brother Charles was better able to accept the burdens of City life...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Lionel Rothschild family_of
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Their cousin Lionel, Leo’s eldest son, had similar inclinations...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild member_of
Tring council documented
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“Walter resigned from Tring council when, in his absence, a resolution was passed in the same spirit.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild family_of
Victor Rothschild documented
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“Walter ghoulishly warned his eight-year-old nephew (and future heir) Victor that when the war was over he would be “put up against a wall and shot.”…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Mark Sykes documented
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“Shortly before an important meeting with Sir Mark Sykes at the Foreign Office, Walter wrote to Weizmann...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild family_of
Lionel de Rothschild documented
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“It was presumably this line of argument which attracted Walter’s cousin Lionel.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild worked_for
Board of Deputies documented
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“He then secured (narrowly) a vote of censure against Montefiore and Alexander at the Board of Deputies, which led the latter to resign, and got himself elected vice-president of the Board on July 20.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild met_with
David Lloyd George documented
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“It was crucial, therefore, to secure more weighty support, and to this end Walter bent the ears of Lloyd George—now Prime Minister—and the Foreign Secretary Balfour...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Arthur Balfour documented
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“It was crucial, therefore, to secure more weighty support, and to this end Walter bent the ears of Lloyd George—now Prime Minister—and the Foreign Secretary Balfour...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild worked_for
United Kingdom documented
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“Tipped off by Balfour that Montagu was still holding matters up, Walter sent another memorandum to the Foreign Office on October 3...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Arthur Balfour met_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“This text—which had been prepared by Leo Amery, assistant secretary to the War Cabinet—was sent by Balfour to Walter on November 2.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Jimmy de Rothschild documented
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“To underline the Rothschilds’ contribution to this historic breakthrough, a huge celebration was held at the Covent Garden opera house on December 2 at which both Walter and Jimmy spoke.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Chaim Weizmann documented
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“While Walter sought to exclude Montefiore from the Jewish delegation, Weizmann countered the assimilationists’ argument…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild met_with
Feisal documented
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“Despite the hopes expressed in December 1918 when Walter gave a dinner for the Emir Feisal (attended also by Weizmann, Milner, Cecil, Crewe and T. E. Lawrence)…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild member_of
Palestine Foundation Fund documented
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“Although he had been the first signatory of the Palestine Foundation Fund (Keren Heyesod) in 1920...…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild member_of
Board of Deputies documented
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“There were disagreements within the Board of Deputies over the idea of a boycott of German goods, for example, which may have precipitated Walter’s resignation as vice-president.…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild family_of
Rothschild family documented
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“Charles and Walter had both died before the war began…”
source: book — The House of Rothschild, Volume 2: The World's Banker, 1849-1999 · ch. FOURTEEN Deluges (1915-1945)
Walter Rothschild worked_for
Elector of Hesse documented
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“Buderus in the meantime had arranged that the elector’s cash income, which it was really his duty to administer, should be collected by Rothschild and remain in his hands at four per cent interest.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.80
Francis I of Austria did_business_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“In accordance with these instructions Buderus and Rothschild were confidentially approached as mediators, and they promised that they would do their best...…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.82
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Elector of Hesse documented
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“The firm of Rothschild carried through the business matters connected with these purchases.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.99
Nikolaus Barbier met_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Barbier was entrusted with this mission, and discussed it personally with the elector, and also informed Rothschild of the matter.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.100
William I, Elector of Hesse did_business_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“In the end the elector left the whole matter to Buderus, and he accordingly put it all in Rothschild’s hands.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.113
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
William I, Elector of Hesse documented
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“Rothschild is unjustly accused of having, from motives of secret advantage, delayed the Dutch business, which is probably to the great detriment of your Highness’s interest…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.115
Nathan Mayer Rothschild worked_for
Walter Rothschild documented
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“they knew through Nathan that it received large sums from England.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.152
Mayer Amschel Rothschild worked_for
Walter Rothschild documented
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“At the beginning of 1814 Amschel Rothschild at Frankfort succeeded in obtaining the order to issue the pay of the imperial officers…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.152
Walter Rothschild met_with
Barbier documented
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“On July 28, 1814, two of the Rothschilds called on Barbier on behalf of the firm in general…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.153
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Barbier documented
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“Barbier recollected the fact that Austria was to receive this payment in Belgium, and in view of what he had just heard, he thought it would be well for the firm of Rothschild to deal with this matter and asked whether they would undertake …”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.161
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
Gontard Bank documented
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“Barbier hastened to arrange an interview with the firm of Rothschild, and with the firm of Gontard, who were collaborating with them...…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.162
Walter Rothschild did_business_with
United Kingdom documented
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“Rothschild further remarked that much greater sums were entrusted to him by the English government...…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.163
Walter Rothschild operated_in
Brussels documented
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“Rothschild immediately pledged himself to pay out any amount which he received in Brussels in francs...…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.161
Solomon Rothschild family_of
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Solomon Rothschild yesterday told me that his brother had recently again received three letters from him in one day.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.236
Handel met_with
Walter Rothschild documented
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“Herr Rothschild [no doubt Amschel Meyer], whom I often meet at Count Buol’s as well as at Baron von Handel’s, has asked me to allow him to send his letters to his brother in my bag.…”
source: book — The Rise of the House of Rothschild, 1770-1830 · p.237
Walter Rothschild headed
Documents Research Division documented
“in June of 1945. It was initially headed by First Lieutenant Walter Rothschild. Despite the rank and title, it was not a military entity. Many of the OSS and SOE, which is the UK's version, staff were afforded notional military ranks as cov…”
▶ OPERATION GLADIO Exposed with COLONEL TOWNER in The Skorzeny Papers Chapter 5 @ 25:40
Lillian Scott Troy exposed
Walter Rothschild host_asserted
“to accelerate the British annexation of America. And she said that they were in collusion with people like J.P. Morgan, Elihu Root, Woodrow Wilson, which means Colonel House. Woodrow Wilson, of course, was a Fabian. And Lord Rothschild's, o…”
▶ The Shadow State 75 The Pilgrims Society @ 59:11
Oswald Mosley relationship_with
Walter Rothschild host_asserted
“He was prosecuted by the British authorities. He pleaded guilty to high treason and was sentenced to death seven months after the war ended. He was hung, hanged, in December 1945 at the age of 33. Leo Amory's second son, Julian Amory, was t…”
▶ OPERATION GLADIO Exposed by COLONEL TOWNER in The Empire on Which the Black Sun Never Set, Chapter 10 @ 44:57
Walter Rothschild member_of
Balfour Declaration host_asserted
“the Rothschild families. And then once it was bankrupted, essentially World War I was where all of that gold was collateralized. And you needed a world war. You needed to manufacture a world war. And that was funded by many of the Zionists.…”
▶ The Colonel’s Corner Drugs, Oil and War Part 10 @ 1:46:52
Walter Rothschild member_of
Zionist Federation documented
“He spent most of his time taking expeditions all over the world to seek out unusual animals. But he's also a very active Zionist. So the reason they wrote this letter to Lord Rothschild was because they thought his name was so important, it…”
▶ The Shadow State 81 Sykes-Picot & The Balfour Declaration @ 55:41
Walter Rothschild member_of
Rothschild family documented
“He's a banker, a zoologist, a soldier. He's the eldest son of Nathan Rothschild, who was the first Baron Rothschild and also the first Jewish peer in England. Money will get that for you. But he's a zoologist and didn't really like the bank…”
▶ The Shadow State 81 Sykes-Picot & The Balfour Declaration @ 55:10
Mentions (11)
▶ 1:46:52
the Rothschild families. And then once it was bankrupted, essentially World War I was where all of that gold was collateralized. And you needed a world war. You needed to manufacture a world war. And that was funded by many of the Zionists.…
▶ 29:38
I'm going to let that sink in. The man in the State Department's family had financial interest while at the same time demonizing him in the United States. Dulles' old law firm represented American Metal Company, later called AMAX, a mining …
▶ 30:12
and his brother and successor, Walter. Oh, and by the way, Walter just happened to have served in the OSS with Dulles. Ambassador Burden was a company director, and Frank Taylor Ostrander, Jr., a former U.S. intelligence official, served th…
▶ 44:25
but he ghosted the Pilgrim Society entirely. The shattering 1902 dinner club that fused Rockefellers, Morgans, Rothschilds, Carnegies, Barclays, Roots, Churchills, and Roosevelts, and the City of London overlords with their Wall Street pupp…
▶ 47:58
And he might have been the source of some of these documents. We don't know. But Steed was always torn between his loyalty to Rhodes Vision and Lillian's tenacity. So I'll get to that in a second. Finally, in 2012, he waivers and gives her …
▶ 59:11
to accelerate the British annexation of America. And she said that they were in collusion with people like J.P. Morgan, Elihu Root, Woodrow Wilson, which means Colonel House. Woodrow Wilson, of course, was a Fabian. And Lord Rothschild's, o…
▶ 45:04
But I do want to talk about the Balfour Declaration. And there's a lot to know about this. I guess we should probably share the screen. That's not what I want. Try that again. There you are. There he goes. The Earl of Balfour. So the Balfou…
▶ 54:08
He's the guy that presided over the banquet in 1917, the Pilgrim's Banquet, that welcomed the United States into war. So that is Lord Balfour. Now his counterpart on this letter was the Right Honorable Lord Rothschild. This is Walter Rothsc…
▶ 54:40
one of the most powerful banking families in history. They are Jewish. They came from Germany. Many of them were Zionists, and a lot of their money did go towards the founding of Israel. Those are all factually true. Some of the other stuff…
▶ 55:10
He's a banker, a zoologist, a soldier. He's the eldest son of Nathan Rothschild, who was the first Baron Rothschild and also the first Jewish peer in England. Money will get that for you. But he's a zoologist and didn't really like the bank…
▶ 55:41
He spent most of his time taking expeditions all over the world to seek out unusual animals. But he's also a very active Zionist. So the reason they wrote this letter to Lord Rothschild was because they thought his name was so important, it…