COLONEL TOWNER OPERATION GLADIO DIG INTO Bank of Credit and Commerce Finale with War Hamster PART 3

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0:00 Hi everyone, Colonel Roxanne Towner Watkins and War Hamster Brady here with a continuation of our series that we're doing on BCCI and today we're going to kind of focus historically on that type of relationship and I'm going to turn the floor over to Brady early on and then I'm going to kind of play second chair in this arrangement for

0:26 this show and interject the gladio stuff as he takes us through the banking history that's relative to this conversation brady hey thanks for having me on again always a pleasure um yeah i think the way i'm going to do this just to kind of lay it out is i'm just going to go through some of the historical connections to organized crime and the banking system and

0:52 I'm going to be some very strategic pauses where I know the colonel is going to jump in because she'll draw the next connection to where that ties into all the Gladio CIA type operations throughout the years. And the piece is just perfectly fit. It's a pattern that repeats over and over again. And it's interconnected. So I'm going to skip over some of the stuff that I know the colonel's covered on this channel, like the Green Gang in China, which really it's an important part of it. I'm not going to go all the way back to Venice and the history of banking unless you want me to.

1:22 No, we're good with that. It's important, but. But just so that everybody knows, because as you just indicated, this topic is huge, but we tend to use the early history, late 1800s forward, concentrating on just prior to World War II, World War II, and then the post-World War II, which you and I've talked about a lot. And just for context and limited.

1:51 amount of time that we have to devote to this. So go ahead. Yeah, well, a lot of this whole story wraps around government regulation and deregulation. And the first real big banking reform act was in 1934. It's called the Glass-Steagall Act. And that's coming right in the middle of the Great Depression. It was one of the first things FDR's presidency did. But it's one of the better government regulation bills I've seen. Having been at SEC,

2:20 regulated for most of my adult life. The Glass-Steagall Act, which separated retail and commercial banks, was a big deal. And right after that, they created the Investment Company Act of 1934 and a few others that followed. Anytime anybody sat down for a Series 7 or a Series 6 or any of the securities licenses knows these acts by heart because you got to memorize them. And they actually made some sense. And what they found, you know, after decades of panics and then before the Federal Reserve

2:49 And then after the Federal Reserve, just a boom and bust was a bit of a problem. And what they determined was the busts were usually done by the commercial banks, which were doing international trading, investing in their own accounts. They're the ones taking the risk. And the retail saver was getting punished. So the Glass-Steagall Act separated those apart. And they made the retail banks highly regulated and the commercial banks less regulated. As you can imagine, that opens up a lot of opportunity.

3:20 offshore tax havens like Panama and Switzerland start coming back into play. Switzerland would have a major role in both World War I and World War II, where players on both sides would put their assets someplace that was supposedly a neutral country. The big thing with Switzerland was it had always been a haven for French aristocrats back from like 1789, you know, during the French Revolution.

3:48 during the industrial expansion in the 1800s a lot of the oligarchs started putting their money in switzerland but where they really took off was where they wrote uh bank secrecy into law in 1934. same year all this other regulations going and so it's called article 47 of the swiss banking code uh where it says no swiss journalist could investigate banks and it's a felony to reveal banking information do you think those two are related 100 i think this all connects what's gonna

4:16 I think what you see happen is there's always going to be some kind of a financial market where money that can't be transparent has to be, it's got to go someplace to get washed or to be stored outside of the prying eyes of regulators. And whether it's Switzerland, Panama, BCCI, all these different places, it shifts depending on the lay of the land. But I guess the big picture is that market will always exist.

4:45 So we get prohibition ends. And of course, the mafia has got to find new markets. This is when Lucky Luciano takes over the five families in New York. We know all about Operation Underworld, so I won't go into that. What's going on across the world at the time is Shanghai is exploding. You know, we're post-opium wars. The opium trade is huge in China. And a lot of that money is funneling through Shanghai. And of course, HSBC enters the picture as the big money laundering bank.

5:15 for the opium smugglers. And Shanghai is under the authority of the UK at this period. Yeah, I believe so. That's correct. It's an international settlement. And you've got the Green Gang is the biggest opium. That would be the Chinese mafia. They're the biggest opium smugglers in the world. And a guy rises to power there by the name of Du Yuxing. And he got to power by murdering a lot of his competitors. So he's a nice guy. France.

5:44 was had a area they were the protectorate of as well and they actually named this guy du shang to the council of elders um and then he would become the director of the shanghai stock exchange in the bank of china all while sitting as the president of the board of opium suppression kind of an interesting portfolio mr du shang has he's the head opium smuggler and he's also sits on the government board to suppress opium for everybody else but them exactly

6:14 Yes. Kind of like the CIA. But I digress. Go ahead. Well, so the Green Gang is, you know, branching into, quote unquote, legitimate businesses. A little curveball gets thrown at them when Japan invades Manchuria in 1931. So D.U. Shang moves his whole operation or himself personally to Hong Kong. And he operates the Green Gang and the opium up until 1949.

6:41 The OSS got involved about that time. I'll let you comment on that because you know it pretty well. Well, that's where people have heard me talk about this. As a matter of fact, we were just talking about it yesterday. When Shane Kyshak comes into the picture, he's Paul Helliwell's mentor on how to sell opium, launder the money, and pay for your war machine. And so Paul Helliwell gets the idea that

7:08 This is a great business model for the new CIA that had just been set up. And they're trying to maneuver Chiang Kai-shek back into China because he's now been pushed out. He's in Burma initially, then gets moved over temporarily. He was in charge of the northern sector of Vietnam to D.

7:34 Japanese, however you want to say that, because the Japanese had actually taken over Vietnam, the country. And so they had divided those two sectors. And if you go back in history, it's a misnomer when you read that China was giving the authority or the responsibility, should have been the better word, that in a year they were going to have an election for the entire state of Vietnam. This exact same thing happened in Korea, by the way.

8:01 They had divided the country into two because it was too large for one country to do. The UK had the southern province of Vietnam and Chiang Kai-shek actually had the northern part. But Ho Chi Minh basically kicked him out post haste because he had already began moving the opium flow into northern Vietnam. And he was like, oh, yeah, not on my watch.

8:27 And so they were looking for a place to set him up in business. And so you have him constantly moving around. But the whole thing MacArthur was insistent upon, which is why we went into Korea in the way in which we did on the northern part, is they were going to supplant Chiang Kai-shek there in order to do China death by a thousand cuts. So they just kept edging around by agitating Tibet, the Uyghurs, everybody.

8:55 And they've been at this for the last 70 years. The interesting connection, and we'll see that ties into what happened decades later, is you have the underground, underworld of the opium trade getting involved in legitimate business and banking with a connection to a U.S. government-backed strongman. Isn't that pretty much the recipe for Gladio right there? Patterns. Patterns. A decade before Gladio had ever been invented, they were already doing this.

9:27 So Mao Zedong comes to power and kicks a lot of those bad guys out. They end up in Hong Kong or Taiwan and various other places throughout what became the Golden Triangle. Skipping across the pond or across the world, we had the Bretton Woods Agreement in World War II, which basically made the U.S. dollar the world's reserve currency. That's a big, big deal. Whether you're doing legitimate international trading or smuggling opium, what have you.

9:54 At some point in time, your loot or your money is going to have to pass through the dollar system. That's an awful lot of power. And it was given to the United States as opposed to the former reserve currency, of course, was the British sterling pound. Sorry, the British pound. The United States was the only major economy in the world that was untouched by two world wars. And that gave us an awful lot of industrial power. What's interesting is, you know, we did not get out of the Great Depression until the war hit.

10:26 None of FDR's policies, government spending, worked at all. In fact, we had a double Great Depression in 1937-38. When we go to war, they nationalize the economy, and the United States' industrial might just rears its head, and we get ourselves out of the recession and generate an awfully big GDP with a very high tax rate. You get out of World War II, and the United States' decision makers had to make a decision. Do we shrink? Do we demilitarize our economy? Or do we find a way to keep this industrial base going?

10:56 This right here is the impetus for a lot of what you're seeing happen with Gladio and everything that our intelligence agencies have done. Because it was basically the only way to keep this industrial base as strong as it was during the war, and so we don't go back into recession, was to export everything we could make. And we had to have healthy economies in Europe especially, but also throughout Asia. And that's why you started seeing these things like the Marshall Plan.

11:22 giving the United States and World Bank loans to help rebuilding of Europe and other places around the world have been decimated by the war. As you can imagine, a lot of that money gets caught into the whole graft game. There's payoffs and payoffs all the way down the chain. But if it did work, it allowed the U.S. industrial base to get off military production and go into goods and services. And we basically saw an economic boom out of that in America.

11:51 As the rest of the world. I'm going to take exception to get off military because we never got off of that. Yeah, it's just it's a matter of scale. We added to it. Well, the I think the graph I saw, it says like in 1945 or 44, something like 73 percent of the U.S. GDP was in military. And obviously that was not going to be sustainable. So they retracted. Although you're right, they never stopped.

12:21 The military industrial complex has to feed too, right? Yeah. And it helps when you take over entire countries with the machine. Yeah, it certainly does. Cheap resources forever. Yes. So here's what gets fun. The next iteration of where the mafia gets involved. There's a Italian tax lawyer and banker by the name of Michael Sindona. Or it might be Mikel. I can't. It's spelled M-I-C-H-E-L-E. Should be more of a household name.

12:52 He ended up being a banker for the mafia in the Vatican, but I'll get to that. He came out of Milan, which was becoming a post-war industrial hub. And Sedona becomes a banker for the rich people who wanted to hide their income. And it worked in Milan because it sits there in the northwest corner of Italy, which is very near the border of both Switzerland and Liechtenstein, two banking havens. So as you can imagine, the opportunity there, I mean, it was too much to resist.

13:22 What you found in Italy is if you had a company, you'd have five sets of books, one for the taxman, one for the banks, one for the minority shareholders, one for the board of directors, and one that was actually the true books. And it was very common. They had all their shell companies and holding companies, and they used bearer-backed shares and every fun little money-hiding trick in the world. And Milan just became, and this guy Sindona became a master at it.

13:49 you know creating shell companies and shell under shell companies across borders moving currencies left and right and he made a pretty good fortune doing it uh he got so good that he becomes the banker for the mafia um obviously well we talked about this but yesterday so i'll bring it up again at the time the mafia we're talking 1950s here late 40s 50s the mafia is opposed to what was called the italian communists i will pass the baton to you so brady and i were talking yesterday about the

14:21 um flow the agenda today kind of an outline and um we got into the whether or not there was actually a communist presence in italy and the first book that i read paul williams operation gladio talks about the red brigade he doesn't spend a lot of time dissecting it as to whether it was legitimately a communist based entity

14:51 So, you know, at book 40 into this, and I find out that most of the things that this apparatus called Operation Gladio lazed as communist, like putting a pointer on it, and the label communist allowed the entire national security apparatus to be mobilized in an attack mode, whether it's a finding signed by the president to assassinate the communist president.

15:21 or whether it's to authorize a contra-type operation because there's communists running around the country, that label was used and misused primarily across the board. So I got to thinking, huh, I wonder if...

15:43 It was misused in Italy since we now have a pattern established, you know, by book 40 that no one they actually called communist was really communist. So I went back and I started doing research in Italy about the court cases that were tried after 1990 revelation that Operation Gladio was a thing. And what you find decades later, in some cases, people were being sent to jail.

16:11 that were not communists at all, but had infiltrated the Red Brigade and instigated the entire thing. And one of their mechanisms for doing that was this issue around labor. And because it dovetails into everything we're talking about, in America, when you had all of the trust breakups in the late 1800s, early 1900s, you had...

16:41 A it's this is just because I just keep seeing patterns in my head. So we know that they took imperialism and basically just revamped it. So all of this is imperialistic. But we've used NGOs to do what the State Department had done in the 1920s and 30s when we took in the early 18 or late 1800s when we took over Hawaii. Right. So, yeah, it's all imperialism.

17:10 It's just takes a different form. It's all the same thing. So if they find out that labeling people as communist works, then they're going to keep doing it. And if you look at the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping, you had the entire thing was an FBI operation. They just found gullible people walking on the street or talking in signal and put them in to be able to color them.

17:36 As some type of a criminal. So you can hide the FBI presence. Which drove the entire thing. And if you take that scenario. And you impose it on the country of Italy. What they did was they took. Mussolini had just been gotten rid of. The oligarchs. Because Italy was basically a fascist country. Mussolini was the figurehead government guy. And all of the business families ran the country. They ran Mussolini as well. And so.

18:06 You have everybody that was labor was getting like, you know, a dollar a day. So they began to form coalitions of labor in order to be able to craft a government that pulled the power away from the oligarchs in Italy and gave some of the power back to the people. Well, those were immediately by the same vanguard oligarchs.

18:32 labeled communist. Were they communist or did they just want workers rights? And where I struggle with this is I look at America going back to the breaking up of the trust. All America did was pretend to have labor unions and they pretend to have trade associations and they pretend not to have oligarchs, right? That's all an illusion. The trade unions are owned by the oligarchs and the union.

19:00 stewards, the union presidents are owned by the oligarchs too. All they did was take what was in the old trust and put two facades up called a labor union and trade associations. And they own the same thing. They just have 23 of them and make it pretend. And that's the same thing that they've done with the imperial.

19:25 They pretend behind the wall of the World Wildlife Fund and all of these NGOs, National Endowment for Democracy, like they're not imperialistic powers when they still are because they own these countries that they go in and basically privatize into all of these oligarch buckets.

19:46 My research and going back looking through court cases of who was found guilty of being infiltrated into the Red Brigade and like the Red Brigade was initially charged with the murder of Mattei. Do you know who he is? I don't. Mattei, I think you spell his name M-A-T-E-O. He was the guy in the Italian government that was like the state owned.

20:16 energy guy. So he's like the Department of Energy for the country of Italy. He had this philosophy that he was going to change the way they did business with Africa. He was going to give them fair deals. They were getting oil from Algeria and he was going to renegotiate the Italian contracts with them and give them a 50-50 split, which had never been done from any European country. And they blew him up. They blew up his airplane and killed him.

20:46 So initially, that investigation was found that it was just a mechanical, you know, bad luck for him. After Gladio began being revealed in Italy, somebody, a reporter, went back and went, hey, what about this guy? He got blown up. And he was doing good for the, you know, the African countries. So they went back and...

21:13 got this guy's body and they examined the inside of his gold ring. It had fragments from a bomb blast. And they confirmed that he had, in fact, been blown up. And they confirmed that people that were from Gladio-trained entities inside of Italy that had buried themselves in the Red Brigade and were pretending to be communists were the people that blew him up.

21:45 You know, you draw some interesting parallels, and I'm going to circle back to the premise of what you just said. We knew that the mafia was very happy to fight against fascists, and we also know that they've been very pleased to fight against communism. But you talk about what's quote-unquote communism. You've got an element of actual communism in the labor unions. You've got an element of actual communism in that Italian movement. But that element's at the very lowest levels, and that is because the idea of communism,

22:16 and all this equality, that is nothing but a marketing piece with the people actually calling the shots. It's always been about power. Who's going to have power? And we're determined to that. With the mafia, we're just speaking about Italy and America and the trade unions, you would not expect that the mafia organization would work well with our socialist or communist movements, but those are still at the very low levels.

22:42 It's a big part of the labor movement. So it's interesting you bring it up. I think there's more to dig on this, to dig deeply into it. What was the other thing I was going to touch on? You can go on, continue. I'll get back to it. Well, that was just my point in explaining. And again, I think you have to go back because of the image that you and I, because of the time period we grew up in, of defining what is communism. Because to me,

23:10 There's a distinct difference between workers' rights and government control of an economy, which is basically what I view communism as. That would be the Bolshevism that international communism became versus the utopian version that most people foresee, unfortunately. To me, workers' rights should not be equated to communism.

23:37 Workers' rights should be a part of the negotiation and not under a union, by the way, necessarily. Workers' rights in an economic model has to be part of an equation for a business owner in order to be a productive part of society as a whole. You know, you can't have slaves.

24:02 And say that you're a functioning economy. So you can take business and labor and you can work together. To me, allowing labor at the table is not a form of communism. It's a form of negotiation, as long as that's not infiltrated with the mafia and some of the connotations that has been taken over here in the United States. Yeah, I think you have two different forces working.

24:31 towards this on the same goal, because there's no coincidence that the rise of the labor movement in America absolutely corresponded with the rise of the Fabian socialists here. Correct. So you have two different things working towards the same means. And that's where we got today. We've got this to today. And we've seen the pattern. You know, you talk about communism. You call anyone communist. It's an excuse. You know, the Red Menace. It's an excuse for us to have military intervention or other.

24:59 It's like we've started wars or toppled governments to protect democracy. What does that even mean? We've done it for national security, our national interests. These are the buzzwords that our politicians and media use to justify all kinds of shenanigans in foreign countries. Correct. If they told the truth and said, no, we don't like this guy because he's not letting our multinational corporations exploit your labor and resources, Americans might be a little more reluctant to back the war machine. You think? Yeah.

25:29 So that's why the military industrial complex, Pentagon, CIA, State Department, they've been into marketing and brainwashing. I listened to RFK Jr. just yesterday, and he made a great speech. And every single time he talked about a threat to our democracy. And, you know, even Donald Trump talks about our democracy. Until we change that language, this country's in a lot of trouble because we are not a democracy, nor do we want to be. Correct. It'll always end in tyranny. Correct.

25:58 All right, jumping back to banks. So we've got Sindona. He goes to New York City in the 50s, builds up a bunch of networks, gets to know a bunch of right-wing politicians, New York bankers, becomes a banker for the Gambino family. It's kind of a big deal. And he was part of the big move for the mafia to move to Cuba. He got to be buddies with Batista, set up banks there. Meyer Lansky was a partner. And they were trying to set up organized crime governments.

26:27 The whole government can organize crime. And they just built this fantasy world for consenting adults. The big bank Sindona built in Cuba is called the Bandas Development Bank. And what they did is they used debt financing, so public-private financing for infrastructure projects. They put up like 28 hotels in a five-year period, five new casinos. And this is money coming from Sicily. It's money coming from the New York mafia.

26:54 money coming from the Jewish mafia in America. And they're totally, totally in cahoots with Batista in Cuba until segue. Until Batista gets overthrown by Fidel Castro. And we also went over this yesterday because this is going to be myth buster day. Again, you know, I was full on to the brainwashing in that.

27:24 you know everything that my government had ever told me about communists and who the communists were was legitimate and only to find out that whole bubble got burst so the same thing with fidel castro and shea calvera so my research in operation gladio took me to the coup that happened in now obviously the cia brought and the mafia brought batista to power um in um an initial coup

27:54 of Cuba. And most people don't understand at that time, you think of the Shangri-La kind of environment in Cuba, you know, where there's casinos down there and mafia and Frank Sinatra goes down there and sings like a little dog on a leash and life's great. What you don't realize is they had basically infiltrated Cuba and did what they do everywhere else. They had bought up

28:22 All of these large sugar plantations, they had taken over the airline. As a matter of fact, the guy that owned the airline was the guy that gave all of the aircraft and ships to Chiang Kai-shek over in Taiwan. His name's William Polly. And he also owned sugar plantations. He owned the bus line throughout the entire country of Cuba. But he's one of many millionaires that got rich off of basically.

28:50 corrupt batista land deals that stole the people's land and um this cuban exile group that came and wrecked havoc in florida and all over the country for amount as a matter of fact because they blew up a former ambassador in downtown dc and killed american so these former exiles that the cia trained as paramilitary terrorists in our own operation gladio operators

29:17 came from the elite families in Cuba that had been bought off and sold their fellow countrymen out. So the only people that initially left Cuba, and I'm not saying Fidel Castro is a good guy, don't get me wrong here. What I am saying is that the only people that initially left Cuba when he initially took over, because he had his sights beaded on them, was the people that sold out the fellow Cubans.

29:42 Those were these elite people in bed with the mafia that William that William Polly had working for him that were kind of like the middle class, upper middle class people like Felix Rodriguez. Look into that man's background. He was not a poor guy. He was in a boarding school in New York. His parents were so well off in Cuba that they sent their son to a boarding school.

30:07 All of his siblings went to boarding schools. They were very wealthy and they got wealthy off of the mafia going down there who was prostituting little kids to include little boys to perverts. They brought all of the vices that the normal mafia brings, the gambling and all of that other stuff. They were paying people jack crap to work and they had basically taken over the entire island. Plus,

30:34 To add insult to injury and what really sent Castro and his fellow countrymen over the top, it became the Sicily drug stock into the United States for the Golden Triangle opium heroin market. All of the cutting and final processing of the heroin that was coming into the United States in the 50s was going through Cuba.

30:58 And it's important to remember, I don't think we point this out enough, an awful lot of those drugs were coming through on U.S. military cargo planes. Correct. So the Pentagon at this point in time, you know, Operation Underworld had happened in the 1940s. So here we have it 15 years later and the mafia has not lost its grip on the Pentagon at all in any way, shape or form. The first time Lucky Luciano, the first people he worked with with U.S. government was military intelligence. Yeah, that's where they got their grips with their grips into.

31:28 You said something interesting, but I just dropped my mind. Well, let me go back to the Shea Cavera thing because that was a sticking point yesterday. So when you have all of this backdrop going on and Castro being an attorney and Shea Cavera was a doctor, got together and...

31:53 figured out because at this point batista is backstabbing the cia and their drug market right so he's kind of branching out on his own and kind of puffing up his chest as most of these dictators like noriega eventually does and piss off the benefactor whose hand is stuck out there so the cia in every one of these cases where they put a strong man in they've got their predecessor already picked out

32:19 So when they go off the reservation or they threaten somebody to reveal stuff that they're not supposed to, they're gone. They'll assassinate them too. And so basically Castro is, whether he's approached or approaches the CIA, he basically works out a deal with the CIA and the CIA begins giving them weapons because Batista is now on their shit list.

32:47 Castro and Che Guevara go into the mountains and they basically set up a terrorist training camp like Gladio is. And they start launching operations against the government, Batista, out of this training area. And what I have found specifically about Che Guevara is in every instance.

33:16 of Operation Condor, which was the overthrowing of all of the governments in Latin America, to include Central America, Che Guevara shows up. And he always shows up on the peasants' side of the fight, the people whose entire villages are being burned to the ground by the CIA. He always shows up in defense of the indigenous Indians in Brazil.

33:45 The Paraguayans, the Iroquoians, the Nicaraguans, every single time Che Cabrera's money, because it came from a very wealthy family, was being used to help the indigenous people throw off the CIA operations and their attempt to allow the oligarchs to come in and rape and pillage.

34:10 You can paint him any way you want as far as his tactics and everything else. But I no longer have the same opinion of Sheik Havera that I did when I started this research. And I'll go to the last step where Felix Rodriguez is in the room when Sheik Havera is murdered. The people that were on site that have now documented what happened, they started at his feet. They shot bullet holes into his.

34:41 extremities, his legs, his arms, and then finished him in the head. He died one of the most gruesome deaths at the hands of the CIA. And Felix Rodriguez admitted he was in the room. He has never admitted he pulled the trigger, but there are people that said that it was him that did it. Interesting. You got me thinking I'll rethink Che a little bit.

35:07 I'm a little curious how he ended up in all these spots if he was on the hit list. Going back to William Pauly, I read something recently that described him as the CIA's first private contractor. And I think that's accurate. First intelligence private contractor was William Pauly doing their dirty work that they didn't want to do, that they could not, the government couldn't do overtly. Well, they did it overtly many times. But yes, he definitely was.

35:37 But you can kind of question whether or not I mean, so this is another gray area. What do you call the people that set up the CIA front companies under the like the Wilson guy under the auspices of I'm going to take a percentage of the proceeds of this front company business and enrich myself. But I'm under the protection of the CIA the entire time.

36:08 So you can call that a private entity. But, you know, it comes with all of the benefits of actually being a government employee because they're never going to prosecute you. Yeah, for the most part. Right. It comes with a lot of what we just talked about. That was BCCI. And that's what we're going to get to is why anybody above a regional branch manager get prosecuted. That's the second half of the show today. Oh, yeah. OK, so what I was talking about.

36:37 The big, big theme here is there's always got to be a market for some kind of a currency or the ability to move money without the scrutiny of regulators. Whether that be the British pound, whether that be the U.S. dollar, it doesn't matter. They don't care. Today, a lot of this stuff is being done with Bitcoin. And you just have to have that kind of market. And because you're talking about illicit money comes from illicit deeds.

37:05 You have to have some kind of banking or tax haven. We talked about Liechtenstein. We talked about Switzerland. It was Shanghai for a bit. And it always seems to shift. Cuba seemed to be a haven for it. So we're in the 1960s, and this guy Sindona is now, he goes back to Palermo, Sicily, and comes out of there. He becomes the banker for the entire La Cosa Nostra. That's the big version of the mafia, headquartered, of course, out of Sicily.

37:33 What he's doing is he's investing their money in these various tax havens. Again, Lichtenstein and Switzerland. Setting up shell corporations of shell corporations of trusts. And there's all kinds of this spider web. And he's trying to make money for an awful lot of people. And he is managing a ton of money. In 1963, Sedona becomes friends with a guy by the name of Cardinal Montini. A little before 1963. Because in 1963, Montini becomes Pope Paul VI. And Sedona becomes the banker for the Holy See.

38:02 The Vatican is spending a lot of money throughout the world for various purposes through something called the IOR. Are you familiar? Yes. Yeah, it's the Instituto per le Opere di Religione. That's my Italian accent. Which is basically like their State Department. Yeah, the Institute for the Work of Religion. It was founded in 1942. We're going to bust some myths today, right? 1942? The same year Hitler started using gladiators. Yeah, go ahead.

38:29 Yeah, interesting. So let's bust a myth here. You know, you've heard this 1871 U.S. corporation theory where they say that the United States coming out of the Civil War was bankrupt and had it. We basically became the U.S. corporation as we sold the country to the city of London and the Vatican Bank. Well, that was going to be really hard to do in 1871, considering the Vatican Bank wasn't founded until 1942. Well, it would have been Hitler's Bank, Hitler's Pope, something like that.

38:56 I could go really deep into what the city of London really is or isn't, but it was basically, it's a 1.1 square mile part of London, and it is a municipal corporation, actually the oldest municipal corporation in the world. DC is also a municipal corporation. What the city of London is not is, well, it's many things. What would come out of the 60s is the city of London would be a wonderful place to have this exchange of international money.

39:25 Because right there, you're sitting there with the dollar being a world exchange currency. And you trade it in London, U.S. regulators have no oversight because it's outside U.S. borders. And because it's in a U.S. currency and not a British currency, the British regulators couldn't do anything. So the city of London in the 60s and 70s becomes this huge center of global commerce. And it actually rivaled New York as the biggest banking center in the world. It's been going back and forth for four decades. And it's because of a very peculiar set of regulations.

39:54 Regulations that are mostly made by British lawmakers and American lawmakers. Makes you wonder how those things kind of happen. And the Vatican Bank shared some very similar hands-off qualities, as did the banks inside the City of London. Yes. You have foreign investors borrowing dollars from British banks. London's creating a financial no-man's land. They can shift money with almost zero scrutiny.

40:27 It's really a new empire. Half the world's banking is going through that. And then, of course, they outsource it to places like the Channel Islands. All sorts of different islands pop up, the Cayman Islands. And they're fully aware that they're breaking UK banking regulations. But they don't have any authority. Yeah. Well, Sedona is depositing a lot of the Vatican money in London at this point through dummy corporations. And he really just became the...

40:53 So the way I heard it described in one article is now you've had the servant of the underworld becomes the financier of God. And so are we going to talk about Marcinkus? Go ahead. All right. Marcinkus is the archbishop of Chicago. You know, no corruption there. And he does his banking at a mafia ran bank in Chicago. So Marcinkus.

41:21 is basically in bed with the mafia in the United States. It was called the Illinois Continental Bank or something like that. And so a lot of money laundering going on there. And you have Marcinkus get selected to be in charge of the IOR. He comes into the Vatican right about the time that the...

41:51 Vatican becomes the money laundering destination for the Paul Helliwell apparatus that has been set up in the Golden Triangle with Chiang Kai-shek. And so basically in the original structure, the Vatican was getting all of the money to launder. But this empire grew so big so quickly and with the

42:17 war on drugs of the nixon administration in the early 1970s they took out the um french mafia the uh corsican mafia that had the monopoly on the number four heroin refinement um there and they shifted that so nixon's war on drug was actually a war on competition just like we were alluded to earlier so they knocked out the course they literally killed

42:47 all of the top three echelons of the corsican mafia in drive-by shootings assassination in restaurants it was bloody murder along the marseille course uh or coast um part right there um and so they move all of the refinement of or processing of the number four heroin down to sicily and that brought all of the um

43:16 world market that was going to be eventually going into Europe and into the U.S. under the control of the CIA using Sicily and the Vatican Bank. I'm just curious if there's any coincidence or because the overlap between the Korshkin Mafia, the war against Korshkin Mafia, and of course the CIA having multiple assassination attempts on De Gaulle in France at the time. What?

43:39 Actually, the assassination attempts on de Gaulle were prior to this because the guy that Nixon is working with was a different guy, a different president. So the Corsican mafia was taken out what year? Around the early 70s. Okay. So I was thinking about mid 60s and that's where I went with that. Yeah. But France was definitely a fun player there. Okay. So now we get to the Bahamas. So after Cuba shut down in the 1960s.

44:09 These players want to find a new Caribbean home. And they decide on the Bahamas. And Meyer Lansky goes over there with some others. Who else is involved in that? Sedona is, of course, involved. It becomes an offshore banking center. It had been back in Prohibition. And the mob moves to the Bahamas after Castro. There's a group of white-collar criminals that were kind of running the Bahamas called the Bay Street Boys.

44:38 The main one is a guy by the name of Stafford Sands. They tried to set up a whole new, I guess, Cuba on Grand Bahama, which wasn't much of an island before they started pumping money into it. They tried to create a whole new casino complex. The Bay Street Boys, the white-collar criminals, they got gambling legalized in Bahamas. U.S. regulators kept trying to get information, so Sands installed some bunch of bank secrecy laws. There was no taxes in the Bahamas until 1990.

45:06 It became a huge mecca for all of this international trade, whether it be drug trafficking or money laundering. The Colombian cartels get involved there. And this is the environment that exists on the international banking system when BCCI is about to get founded. Big thing happened in 71. Nixon takes us off the gold standard. Bretton Woods Agreement pretty much died. Sedona is trying to purchase Franklin National Bank in the U.S., which isn't going to happen.

45:37 And of course, we know what's going on in Italy. Big street violence in the 70s, which is the newspapers are going to say is mafia versus communist. There was a lot of political violence going on in the 70s. Oh, yeah. And I'm going to say there's probably four or five different factions. The way the media reported it is probably less than honest. This is all part of the story. What you end up having, especially there was a war on. So you have the Gladio things obviously set up in the late 40s.

46:08 You have all of the 1950s where they have infiltrated and set up networks all over. There were like 600 units and like 400 weapon caches just in Italy alone. Now, they have manipulated everything. They've manipulated the government. They've manipulated media. They've manipulated local governments. And people are getting sick of it.

46:35 A couple of journalists begin in the mid-1960s investigating this because they're seeing patterns. If a prosecutor brings a case against anybody affiliated with GLaDOS, because you haven't mentioned the P2 Lodge yet either. The P2 Lodge was the backbone. There were over 900 government officials that belonged to this Masonic Lodge that was with the Knights of Malta.

47:03 and the Vatican. They're all aligned. And any time a deal went through that a reporter reported on accurately, that reporter was murdered. If the investigator, the prosecutor, a judge began investigating the murder of the journalist or the incident that required the journalist to be murdered, they were assassinated.

47:29 I lived there. I got there in 1990. And that was when Gladio got broke open. Second of August 1990 is the announcement that Gladio is a thing. It's been here since the late 40s. Oh, my God, we're so sorry. In just the initial exposure, there were five between judges and prosecutors walking into a courthouse in Sicily to try one of the very first people.

47:57 all assassinated on the steps of the courthouse they were not going to let any of this get exposed yeah it took a lot of uh cross-atlantic cooperation to finally get there to finally get it exposed we talked a little bit about some of these italian investigators risking their life actually exposed more of this than their american counterparts falcone literally yeah um going back to nixon taking us off the dollar

48:24 So off the gold standard. So now the dollar is free floating against gold. It has lost its value is to be the de facto currency for all these transactions. Any guesses as to what replaced it? Because there has to be a nature of boards of action, a vacuum. Something is going to step into that gap and say this is going to be the commodity or thing that can be traded. For thousands of years, that was gold. Gold is very impractical. Then we had the British pound.

48:52 Then we had the U.S. dollar. So what became next starting in 1971? Do you know? Oil? Oil is part of it, but more importantly, because oil is hard to transport. Oil contracts were not quite there yet. It was the U.S. Treasury note, Treasury bonds. So what you had to happen, every single country started having to keep reserves of U.S. Treasuries to be able to facilitate cross-border trade.

49:16 Well, at the same time, this created huge demand for the U.S. Treasury and allowed the United States to borrow money in print, quote-unquote print money, at an unprecedented scale. It is no coincidence that our M2 money supply goes skyrocketing and inflation of the 70s and 80s hits, basically because of that. But that, taking the dollar off the gold standard, allowed the U.S. Treasury to be the most traded, most freely traded commodity in the world. And it's all squeaky clean.

49:45 Because it's got to come from bank to bank, you know, your brokerage to brokerage. You don't know, you no longer trade your bonds and certificates or very, very rarely do you do. So that had a lot of impacts we're feeling today that opened the door for this excessive borrowing, the unnatural demand for the U.S. Treasury bond. And if that ever unwinds, America is going to find itself its purchasing power down by 25 to 30 percent minimum. And don't you think BRICS is going to unwind that?

50:16 To some degree, BRICS is a long ways away from having that kind of financial power. They also have a bit of a trust issue, not meaning the United States has been a trustworthy custodian. The problem is the different countries in the BRICS don't necessarily trust each other. Can you trust Chinese accounting? Can you trust that sort of thing? It's really hard to have a monetary union without a political union. And there's certainly not, there's no talk about creating a political union. Right. Okay.

50:45 I don't think that's a threat. I think it's important to have competition for the Treasury. And that allows the market to slowly have it dwindle down as opposed to a complete rip the Band-Aid off. So let me go back and finish Marcinkus. He moves over to be the Secretary of State in charge of the Vatican Bank. And he is there when Sedona is there. He is there when Calvi gets murdered. And they finally...

51:13 the country of Italy has had enough of the whole money laundering and the murder. And they decide that they're going to, they give the Vatican one last chance to clean their crap up. So Marcinkus gets sent on his way. Do you know where he went? Sun City, Phoenix, or Sun City, Arizona. He comes back to the United States, basically with a warrant out for his arrest from the country of Italy for the murder of Calvi.

51:42 the embezzlement of billions of dollars through these shell companies the Vatican set up, all done under his watch. He lives the rest of his life, dies in Sun City with a warrant out for his arrest and an extradition request pending at the State Department that the U.S. never honors. It's funny how a lot of these people did not end their lives very well. I was just going to close up on this banking. You know, Sedona ends up arrested in the U.S.

52:13 In 79 on 68 counts of fraud. Yeah. It's because the Franklin National Bank went insolvent because they were making bad loans, apparently. And everyone dropped Sedona. He lost a ton of money for the mafia, a ton of money for the Vatican. And, you know, he ends up and dies in jail. Myers Lansky, who's involved. He was poisoned in jail. He didn't just die. Sedona. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that was better than Calvi, who is the other banker that allowed the National Bank.

52:42 um in italy to go insolvent because he got hung off the friar's bridge in london he was the bank of ambrosia or something like that however you say that abrogiani um bank in italy and they he was trying to escape being arrested they they they find him in london and they hang him off the um friar's bridge in a black

53:12 with uh like masonic stones in his pockets so that they know that it's a hit job you know it's funny that's a really good segue into the second part of what i want to talk about today because you point out that these uh players yeah they've got a heck of a good life as long as they're useful and the second they lose their usefulness it's it's bye-bye nice knowing you yeah exactly we see the same thing on the government side um people

53:42 who are willing to look the other way and say they're part of the game they get to fail upstream and get promoted and then they get to take their mini vacations to the private sector or the ngo sector where they get to accumulate a lot more wealth than they do in the government and they go in and out of government that's the revolving door as long as they're useful and as long as they play the game and it does not this is consistent in america throughout the republican party and the democrat party through administrations of both this goes back decades if you're willing to play the game

54:10 They will find a place for you. And the whole government isn't corrupt. It's the people in the bottleneck positions, the political appointments. And you don't get the political appointment unless you're part of the game. But I will say there's instances of people like Ed Wilson being one of them that played the game. And he was willing to continue to play the game.

54:35 He had way too many secrets that he knew. And a new administration comes in and sorry, you're in jail. And that happens to weapons dealers who did deals for the last administration that the new administration doesn't trust. So you're taking a huge risk when you do business with the United States, because like in the case of the president of Pakistan that was involved in the whole.

55:05 shady dealings with the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, which isn't what happened at all, and funneling billions of dollars into Afghanistan, but not really because about 60% of that is shaved off and sent other places. When you're the president in Pakistan that's allowing all that to happen and you get a new administration in and your airplane blows up,

55:33 taking with you several Americans that happened to be the ambassador and the general in charge that knew what was going on. They didn't have a change of heart. They just outlived their usefulness. Well, it's exactly correct. We started this series of BCCI. And the thing we both probably noticed right away is, well, it's great that they caught these 10 mid-level managers in Tampa, Florida, but the investigation never went further. You know, it would seem to be hard capped.

56:04 It seemed that the U.S. Treasury and the DOJ were slow walking it. Like Epstein? Go figure. So I decided to do a little bit of digging and figure, you know, we already talked about the connection between Bob Mueller and John Kerry. For those who didn't see that, it turns out that Robert Mueller, who was running the DOJ connection with the BCCI investigation, and John Kerry, who's running the Senate.

56:30 Senate investigation. Yeah, exactly. Well, it turns out that they grew up not even an hour from where I'm sitting right here in Concord, New Hampshire, and were high school lacrosse teammates, which is a little bit too coincidental. Tells me they might have had more than a professional relationship. But I wanted to look into who were the decision makers at the time. Well, who were in the positions? Who were the attorney generals during the BCCI scandal in the late 80s, early 90s?

56:59 And who were the secretaries of the treasury? And I'm going to start going through the list of people and some of the connections they have. And you're going to have a field day connecting some dots here. If I may. Go. All right. So the attorney general, who's basically in charge of the Department of Justice, who would have been, should have been investigating BCCI. And there's going to be three of them that overlap this five or six year time period. We're basically looking at 1985 to 1991 or two. Fair enough.

57:29 Yeah. Well, the big name, who's the U.S. Attorney General in 1985 through August 1988, was a guy by the name of Edwin Meese. Meese came out of, he worked under, some interesting background things on Meese. Came out of Alameda County, worked under a DA named Delwin Lowell Jensen. Jensen would receive what's called an LEAA grant to develop something called DALITE, D-A-L-I-T-E.

57:58 That stands for the District Attorney's Automatic Legal Information System. I bring it up because it's the same software base as Promise. And Colonel, what is Promise? It's supposedly a software that was stolen by the Department of Defense, or excuse me, Department of Justice, and given to both Mossad and the CIA that was supposedly created to prevent money laundering, which would have rendered everything that we just talked about,

58:30 nil and void, but they didn't use it for that because they set up a back door to it so that they could track everybody else's money laundering and do their own undetected. So Mises is involved in the legal systems version of the same software. So I thought you'd love that one. So he would join Ronald Reagan's gubernatorial staff in 67.

58:52 Here's a fun part of him. He was probably the most instrumental person in the decision to crack down on the student protesters in Berkeley in 1969. So my question for you is, if Mies is already a deep state operative and we know a certain three letter agency was promoting the campus action in the 1960s, what gives with that coincidence? Yeah, I'm going to say it's not a coincidence. Yeah, it was just it's an interesting connection.

59:23 That Mises is the guy who called that shot. And I get to shut, to crack down on it. Well, it actually makes sense. The CIA wanted the protesters to create a certain impression of certain narrative and cracking down on them increases that narrative. So perhaps. And what was the narrative? Dissent on the streets. The fact that, you know, you know, yeah, it's, it's, that's a complex answer. So I'll give you the uncomplexed answer.

59:52 So because I have looked into this under the guise of where were our Operation Gladio elements here. The entire Weather Underground was our Operation Gladio. The actual disruption on college campuses back during this time frame was legitimate. They had nice iron slacks. They were middle class men and women who didn't want to die in a war.

1:00:21 in Vietnam over drugs. And they all knew, by the way, exactly why we were there. So the CIA had to implant hippies. And by the way, I

1:00:35 documentation, Doug McGowan documented all of this in the Laurel Canyon episodes, that they actually had fashion designers to create this. The same with makeup artists, hair designers. They crafted the entire thing. It was all an illusion. Who invented LSD, by the way? Oh, the CIA. So the whole thing was orchestrated to make the legitimate anti-war protesters

1:01:05 So now every time you look back at the 1960s and somebody says anti-war protesters, the figment that comes to your imagination are hippies. That's not true at all. That was a science. So Ed walks in, Ed Meese walks in and he cracks down on the things that they created and the illusion goes on. Well, the interesting part about it, you described the organic part of the anti-war movement.

1:01:35 A lot of that came out of the University of California system. There was a guy by the name of Marcuse, one of the original nine professors that came over from Frankfurt University to Columbia in 1934. It was that magic year again. And Marcuse is sitting there teaching at UCSD, a little over 10 minutes from where I pretty much grew up. And a lot of this movement, the organic side of it came out of him. This is one of the original cultural Marxists, the people that gave us critical theory and critical race theory. That's where that comes from.

1:02:03 So there are definitely different players on the field in the 60s in California. Yeah. Where are we talking about? Oh, okay. So Meese joins the Reagan White House as a chief counsel right from almost day one. He also sits on the National Security Council, which means he's got bona fides with the CIA, of course, right? Yeah. Meese was very much implicated in Iran-Contra. Are you familiar with the 1985 Hawk missile transaction? That was Meese.

1:02:34 Yeah, Mies is involved in that. All Operation Gladio. It gets appointed to the U.S. Attorney General in 1985. And interesting, the guy who opposed it vehemently was a guy by the name of Archibald Cox. And if you guys remember Archibald Cox, he was the special prosecutor during Watergate. And his reason for opposition to Edwin Mies was called it due to a lack of ethical sensitivity. That's a direct quote.

1:03:04 which means he thought he was scum. So here's where Meese gets in a lot, really gets in trouble. This is the number one law enforcement agent in America. He got involved with a company called Bechtel. And I'm sure you thought you might like that. So she's laughing because Bechtel's had long-term CIA links. 1978, Mother Jones wrote an article that discussed how they shared Middle East information with the CIA. It's a private company, people.

1:03:36 You know, what did Bechtel do? They were building, you know, things like projects over in Middle East, whether it be, you know, water reclamation. They are one of the largest defense contractors that doesn't produce weapon systems, if not the largest every year. Yeah. So here's an example. They wanted to build a chemical plant in Iraq. Who helped negotiate that? Edwin Meese. You know, when he got, when the Bechtel investigation happened, special prosecutor James McKay cleared him of wrongdoing, but he criticized him for, and this is a quote.

1:04:07 Ethical lapses. And again, this is... Okay, so let me just point out that he currently sits on the Board of Trustees at the Heritage Foundation with his lack of ethics. And he also was a fellow at the Hoover Institute at Stanford. That was my last bullet point for you. Okay. And when you hear Hoover Institution people, think CIA. Everybody that watches...

1:04:33 My shows knows every one of these stories has a Stanford angle. So thank you for letting me share it. No, that was going to be the closing bullet point on this one. You nailed it. Yeah, he is. And this is 40 years after the fact. He is still sitting on these boards. The Bechtel, you know, he was involved. Bechtel was involved in the big dig scandal in Boston, a big Bolivian water privatization act. Sound familiar?

1:05:00 Tried to build a highway in Kosovo with all kinds of kickbacks. There's an Egyptian kickback scheme with state power contracts. That's what these people do. That's what Bechtel was, and Mies was knee-deep with them. He ends up resigning to another company called the Wedtech scandal. Wedtech is another government contractor. They want a ton of no competitive bids. Funny story about this one. They originally manufactured baby carriages. Pretty darn...

1:05:32 Scary stuff. A guy by the name of John Mariota founds it. Somebody by the name of Fred Neuberger comes in and they started focusing on these DOD contracts. Well, there's a lot of law firms that were involved in this web tech. When they went public, they gave shares of stock to law firms as payment of services. Mariota was still the primary owner and he won the competitive bids, even though Neuberger was a foreigner. So they're doing this illicitly, getting the government contracts.

1:06:02 You had two House members, Mario Biagi, Robert Garcia, both got resigned seats and went to jail on this scandal. A couple of U.S. senators, Clarence Mitchell, Howard Mitchell, they helped WebTech win the federal work and they got punished for that. One of the main people at WebTech was a guy by the name of Major General Vito Castellano. And, you know, he had key positions in Albany, the New York mafia, or not New York political mafia, I should say. He was a commander of the New York National Guard. He was Mario Cuomo's chief of staff.

1:06:32 And Castellano was also the cousin of the Gambino crime boss, Paul Castellano. I worked with a Castellano at MacDill, and I was always, he was an intel officer. I was always harassing him about being in the mafia. Yeah, it's real. So that's Mies. And of course, he closed out with, now he's retired. He had to resign when the independent counsel was delivered. That's this guy. So he's one of the decision makers.

1:07:01 trying to decide whether we should prosecute BCCI. So do you think with those connections, he might have some incentive with some multinational corporations and other organizations maybe to not pursue further investigation? Just a little bit. Just a little bit. And that's the chief law enforcement action in America. All right. So he's succeeded by a guy by the name of Dick Thornburg. Not quite as exciting. He was a governor of Pennsylvania, was known as the hero of Three Mile Island.

1:07:31 because he was the governor when that happened. He apparently did a good job. He was real big on going after white-collar crime and got a whole lot of convictions during the S&L crisis. Well, that's what the media will tell you, but what do you think about the convictions in the S&L crisis? Did we see some people not get investigated? All of the real people that served on the boards that got all of the uncollateralized loans, none of them went to jail. Nah, so we've got a pattern here with Dick Thornburg. Oh, what? A pattern? Nah, never.

1:08:01 So he resigns. So he was the attorney general from 88 to 91. He resigned to become the governor of Pennsylvania. I'm sorry, to run for Senate in Pennsylvania. And there was like a side deal cut with a Pennsylvania congressman who was under a campaign finance investigation, agreed not to run. Well, Gray ends up not winning. He lost to a Democrat. And interesting thing part about his campaign is two years later, his campaign was sued.

1:08:31 successfully sued for $180,000 by a guy by the name of Karl Rove. So let's find out what kind of guy was Thornburg after he was Attorney General. Well, in 2002, he's appointed the examiner in the World Bank bankruptcy proceedings, and he's the guy who slams Arthur Anderson and Citigroup for aiding them fraud. Hold on. Can I just stop for a second? Please. Wasn't Mies Yale and this guy's Yale too?

1:09:03 What's the question? They're all Yale graduates. Yeah, I don't, I didn't, there's a lot of that and I didn't write down the college connection. Yeah, they're all Yale graduates. Just go ahead. Yeah, keep that in mind because we're going to, we got to shift to skull and bone soon. That's why I wanted to bring it up. No, no, it's good. I was going through all the bios of these guys. Yeah, an awful lot of Yale connections. Yeah, okay, go ahead. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. No, not a problem.

1:09:30 So it's interesting about this guy, Gray, who basically stepped aside to let him run for the Senate seat. Gray ends up being the CEO of the United Negro College Fund, which is an interesting place to land. A little bit of graft has gone through there. So what's Thornburg doing in the year 2000? He would later serve after he left the attorney general as the United Nations undersecretary general in 1992 and 93.

1:10:01 What's going on in the world in 92, 93, maybe in Iraq. And that's also the time of time period where the cold war is ending and the U S foreign policy is shifting from one of alleged defense to shifting to offense. If Mike Benz is to believe, and that's when they started to roll with a censorship or that's when the internet comes out. And some of the, what's been known as color revolution started happening. That was the shift after the cold war.

1:10:31 And this is the guy sitting on the UN as a major player at the time. So a couple other fun things about this guy. He was actually hired by Joe Paterno's family to challenge the free report on Jerry Sandusky. Side note. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah. He's a consultant to the United Nations World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank on efforts to battle fraud and corruption. So he's the insider on there to make sure they don't ever find anything.

1:10:59 To some degree. I don't think he's all that dirty. I just think he's in a lot of really high positions where he could have done a heck of a lot more if he hadn't turned the other cheek. Which basically there's those two kinds of people that I've seen. There are ones that are non-controversial that are there as a spy in a business suit. And then there are the ones that are there to like the Ed Wilsons to actually get shit done.

1:11:28 The last interesting thing, one last observation about Thornburg and these other gentlemen is, you know, it's amazing. These guys are lawyers and they end up with positions like with the United Nations or some. And it shows you that the white collar version of international intrigue and espionage really is a legal process. It's lawyer after lawyer. You know, there's a big difference between an attorney general and being a diplomat. And yet somehow these guys are able to leave from one position to another.

1:11:57 Even more so is the CIA agent like William Pauly that becomes an ambassador. What kind of background check did he get through? All of them. Apparently. They do their own. Well, the attorney general who succeeds Thornburg is a gentleman who does not need much introduction. His name is William Barr.

1:12:22 Also known as Trump's attorney general. He was the AG from 91 to 93. When again, PCCI is not investigated. And as a friendly reminder, William Barr worked for the CIA from 1971 to 1977. Correct. He also, Barr is the guy who justified the US invasion of Panama to arrest Noriega. So he was a hawk on that one. Oh, yeah. So let me see. I want to.

1:12:51 I did not look him up in this book, but I want to look real quick while you're on him and see what they say, because they did make an entry on him. Because he shows up in some really interesting times. Not necessarily always bad either. So he shows up here in relationship to, let's see.

1:13:21 a guy by the name of Jonathan Slopes. And he basically was involved in Bush in some really shady deals with he, let's see, as a government lawyer with the CIA's U.S. Information Agency, the Department of Labor and NASA. Any place that Bush cronies wanted to do business, the Slope guy shows up.

1:13:50 And it says that a law firm by the name of Shaw, Pittman, Potts and Trowbridge served as a haven for two key partners that were associated with the private intelligence network that CIA agent Tom Clines worked for a CIA front company by the name of International Research and Trade. And that was the company that this Ed Wilson guy who's.

1:14:19 you know, part of the weapons deals for BCCI, says that that company Ed Wilson funded and Ted Shackley, who's obviously CIA, organized, which became known as EATSCO, E-A-T-S-C-O. A woman by the name of Barbara Sakati was working in this place.

1:14:48 is a Harvard Law School graduate. And it says Sloat and Roscotti, let's see, also working with them was a young man by the name of William Barr. Barr was a New Yorker that had graduated from Columbia University, completed his doctorate degree at George Washington University. And back in 1977, had worked at the office of the general counsel to the CIA. In 82, Barr was appointed.

1:15:15 Deputy Assistant Director in the Office of Policy Development in the White House. As the sins of the private network were threatening to spill out in public during Bush's own administration, Bush, and they're talking about senior, obviously, turned to Barr.

1:15:33 to serve first as an assistant attorney general in the Office of Legal Counsel in 1988 to 90, and then as his attorney general. Barr nearly succeeded in covering up the Bush administration's Iraq gate. So it's interesting that this is the same Bill Barr that, as you just mentioned, covers up Iraq gate, did not prosecute BCCI, despite the fact that there was a ton of evidence that was later exposed.

1:16:01 And apparently when he became attorney general under Donald Trump was unable to actually do any kind of investigation into Spygate. Or election fraud or anything else. Or anything above. So this guy, Bill Barr, if he's not the biggest cover-up artist, or maybe that's his entire job. Well, let me also say there's a separate possibility.

1:16:30 And not that I believe this, but it is possible. There are some of these people that were in this system that they are so exposed for things that they have done that they could have been approached saying, because maybe they weren't ready to expose all of the election fraud at the time because they're trying to map a circuit, the network.

1:17:01 There is a slim possibility, because I'm the eternal optimist, that he was brought in as one of them, but wasn't one of them for the legacy of his family. It's interesting. It's a long conversation with a lot of speculation. All speculation. Yeah. Do we have time for me to jump into the Treasury Secretaries? Probably about 15 minutes. I've got another.

1:17:33 I can probably go for another 45 minutes if we need to. OK, go. OK. So those are your secretaries of state. Sorry, attorney generals, the people involved in the cover. But another most financial crimes investigation starts with the Department of Treasury. That is their expertise, mostly because they've got access to pretty much every all kinds of information of money that's coming and going, ones and zeros. And every single banking brokerage entity reports to them.

1:18:02 So they've got a lot of data, a lot of investigations start there, but apparently BCCI did not. And let's figure out why. Usually you start at the top, you know, who makes those decisions. So the U.S. Treasury Secretary in 1985 to August of 1988, this guy by the name of James Baker. Well known. So what's he all about? Well, he was the undersecretary of commerce under Ford. He also ran Ford's unsuccessful 1976 election.

1:18:31 He would fail upwards and became Reagan's chief of staff in 1984 and 1985. Then in 85, he becomes the treasury secretary. So what's he do there? He was the architect of what's called the Plaza Accord. And this is something that devalued the dollar. It was government intervention into currency markets, and it probably led to the crash of the Japanese asset bubble in the 1980s. This was James Baker, government intervention in private markets.

1:19:00 in my opinion is a free market type of guy that that's a bit problematic and we're still seeing the downstream effects of that decision in japan most certainly is so baker also comes up with a baker plan in 85 um it's a big imf world bank meeting and uh they're talking about how to combat the international debt crisis remember i've told you that u.s treasury is everybody has to own treasuries so everyone's borrowing in dollars from the world bank and the imf

1:19:26 They're unable to pay those back. They're having to hoard treasuries as their only stable currency, and it's a problem. So Baker comes up with a plan to use China's trade surplus to relieve some of this third world debt. That's what the headlines will tell you. What's really going on is they're further enslaving these poorer countries to the dollar debt system, which is the predicate for the Gladio-style multinational corporations moving into the NGOs, everything like that.

1:19:55 if the government and these indebted nations do not play ball well that's when we bring in the you know the ngos and the cia so that's what's really going on with this with the imf banking stuff so let me tie him in a little further baker well baker's from houston all of the players of bcci that um m-a-h-h-o-u-d guy that's the the banker for the saudi family that was

1:20:25 one of the primary funders of BCCI. He has an operation in Houston, Texas, weirdly enough. And they use a guy by the name of, let me find his name. I just lost it. His last name's Bath. I'm trying to find his first name. It's B-A-T-H, James Bath. James Bath is a very interesting guy because

1:20:54 he becomes the conduit between the Bush oil and the Saudi oil. And he's involved in a thing with all of them, to include Baker, by the way, called the Safari Club. And all of this has everything to do with the tie-in of...

1:21:19 It says in 1979, James Bath was much more than a well-connected oil dealmaker. He also invested money in George W. Bush's fledgling oil company, Arbrusco Energy. And A.D. Bath, who had been known as the younger Bush since the two of them had served together in the Texas Air National Guard in the early 70s, went into business together with the Arbrusco. At the time, Bath was a U.S.

1:21:48 Representative of Salam bin Laden, Osama's eldest brother at the head of the Saudi business empire. Ba'ath had a similar arrangement with Sheikh Khalid bin Masud, which is the banker to the Saudi royal family behind the BCCI funding. Bin Masud was the key figure in BCCI.

1:22:17 Young George Bush had already ran for Congress and lost before he established himself as an awful businessman with no success in oil fields. By the time James Bath made his investment, two things about the younger Bush had become clear. He had a serious substance abuse and he had trouble remembering who had invested in his deals. He also had an acknowledged drinking problem. And it goes on to say this Bath guy, it says there's.

1:22:48 Bath had no money. He was not inherently rich. So he basically took aircraft and retrofitted them for the Saudi family and others in the Middle East. So he was flipping airplanes like we flip houses. He was flipping airplanes and to the left. I mean, like with millions of dollars of upgrades. Right. So he's.

1:23:10 conduiting into many different companies to include one that BCCI underwrites to get nuclear switches in a company in Texas sent over to Pakistan's nuclear program. This guy is the dealer that's doing all of this shit, this back guy. And he's doing it with BCCI money from the Saudis into the Bush family. Yeah, and it's funny how that ties all the way back.

1:23:41 because Mies has equal from the opposite direction has connections to the Bush family. And James Baker from Houston goes into business. What, what, what's the name of that company that him and George senior forms in Washington, DC, the private equity company. I was looking at it and I was going to go with Enron next, but Carlisle. Oh, that one. Okay. And what does Carlisle do right off the bat buys a.

1:24:12 a large equity share in all of the military industrial complex right before what happens the iraq war interesting business model a little inside information going on there at all yeah so so now you we're making a connection to bcci through the bushes james baker so does he have any incentive to not prosecute uh bcci because maybe it might find its way back to some names that don't need to be uncovered

1:24:43 I just showed you the names that doesn't need to be covered, which is why I wanted to say that. So, you know, he so he ends up, you know, we talked about the Baker plan. He would end up managing Bush's campaign in 88. And he won and immediately becomes the secretary of state. Now, we know quite well that if you talk about secretary of state, you're talking about the official arm that the CIA is the unofficial arm of. They are the same CIA.

1:25:12 So if you're the secretary of state, you know where the bodies are buried. Interesting that he was there from 89 to 92 because that's when the Soviet Union is breaking up and James Baker is running point. While we're orchestrating the giveaway of all the Russian government assets to a bunch of oligarchs and Baker's out there publicly saying the whole quote, not one inch closer will NATO encroach upon Russia. So that's Baker for you. Well, a couple more things on Baker. He was a UN envoy to Western Sahara.

1:25:45 Interesting, because we've seen a little bit of shenanigans there, have we not? Quite a few, actually. He was also a big consultant to Enron prior to that Enron bankruptcy. And, of course, he managed Bush's team in the younger Bush in the Florida recount. What he's doing now, he sits on something called a board of the World Justice Project and, of course, the Climate Leadership Council. Which is another money laundering operation. Well, of course.

1:26:16 You know, but OK, so there's your secretary of the Treasury with connections. He's got all kinds of incentives to not investigate BCCI. Would you agree? Yes. So who takes over from him for a brief period? It's worth mentioning because he's only there for a month with the government of M. Peter McPherson. And this is 1988, August to September. And what's going on with the BCCI case in that period? Remind me when this the big arrest sting happened. What year was that? Oops, are you muted?

1:26:54 Oh, the colonel disappeared on me. All right, well, I will hold off on going too much deeper. I'm sure she'll be right back, unless there's something going on with my feed. All right, I'll try to keep you all entertained for a little bit while we're waiting on her. I won't get into McPherson yet. I blew my train of thought. Where could I film you going on some fun stuff while we're waiting on her? Sorry, going through my notes right now, people.

1:27:36 I don't want to go further down this tangent without her listening in because I do want her insights and to hear the thoughts. Well, I'm looking at the Rumble Chat. If anybody's got any questions or has anything to say while we're waiting. Any questions in the Rumble Chat or should I check on the YouTube as well? We're probably editing this dead air out and I do apologize for not being prepared. I'm looking for the...

1:28:26 Okay, I got the YouTube live. Where's the chat here? Anybody have any questions while I'm trying to kill dead air? I'd be able if I muted it. Well, let's see. I'm going to hold off on the rest. If she doesn't come back in the next few minutes, we'll just make it a second video later and we'll stop. How's that sound for a plan? Because I do not want to do this in her absence. It's more fun to have a conversation than to just give a monologue. So let's say we give her about five more minutes.

1:29:05 Aqualux asks, will this eventually lead to the billion-dollar fine to TD Bank? Perhaps. It was a $1.8 billion fine. What's interesting is they made more money than that with the money laundering. So that's another slap on the wrist. So TD Bank is problematic, that investigation. What I always find very interesting about these bank fines is it goes back to the deal that seems an Obama cut with the...

1:29:33 Wall Street banks during the campaign in 2008, where they cut a deal with any time the Department of Justice gets these major fines, they can reduce the fines by diverting a bunch of the money to politically favored NGOs. And these are the same people running around the country doing things like financing voter outreach, et cetera, all for one party, as you can imagine. So when you see these bank fines, people ought to be asking, a really good investigative reporter would say, where's the money going to go? And quite often it is not.

1:30:02 into the u.s treasury coffers it is towards politically favored uh politically favored ngos and other type activities so basically the banks are just paying for the groups that are running around influencing you know all kinds of things money money the government couldn't spend for itself they use private entities to do just like we do internationally that's the gladio being applied domestically uh question

1:30:29 Does any of this lead to USB? I'm guessing you meant UBS. Yeah, UBS has involved some of that. By the way, another one of my former employers was UBS. Anyone who's involved in international banking is somehow connected. Next question. Did you see the ex-post of Barr in the cargo plane with the open ramp? How long ago was that? I didn't know Bill Barr had an ex-post, but what you're saying sounds somewhat familiar.

1:31:02 You have to show me a link, and then I'll take a look. What you're saying is familiar. It's just on top of the head. Aqualus asks, how can we ever stop all this? We've got to start with having honest people, honest regulators, and an honest government. If the regulators have the revolving door going in and out between private industry to public service, the incentive is too great to place your...

1:31:27 There's so much money in the international corporate world. They've got every incentive in the world to place their people in charge. So you've got to get away from that. And I think one of the things we could see, and I'm hoping we do, is after November 5th, if Donald Trump puts RFK Jr. in charge of agencies like the FDA or Elon Musk in charge of streamlining government, you're going to see an awful lot of heads roll, I would hope. One of the big ones for me with RFK Jr. is if he takes over the FDA, you're going to see not just big pharma, but also big ag.

1:31:58 big food makers, all the processed food, they're going to be seriously curtailed in their activities, which means you are probably going to see a serious decrease in their ability to advertise on the mainstream media. Without those advertising dollars, CNN, MSNBC, and some of the others go bye-bye because 80% of the advertisement we see come from big pharma or big food. And so that's one of the big first steps, whether they can pull that off or not, but we shall see.

1:32:26 You've taken on a pretty big hydra. Other questions. It was in a non-post. Don't remember who. That sounds about right. And I see most of the non-posts and most of the key posts. I don't always talk about them too much, but I do pay attention. SR711966 says, you said it will take bricks a while to trust each other, though I am. That ledger accounting would do that I am wrong. I think I understood well.

1:32:59 I thought I think you're trying to say I thought that ledger accounting would do that. Yeah. Having an open source blockchain based accounting ledger does develop some kind of trust. There's still ways of doing shenanigans. We talk about Bitcoin. Great idea. Decentralized currency. How do we know that the CIA didn't create it? We do know that a lot of money laundering is being done through that because it is unregulated.

1:33:29 We found out that the governments and the feds really can break through wallets and see stuff. So it's not as secure as it's supposed to be. From a conceptual standpoint, there's some things to like, but I just think there's too many loopholes. There's too many holes in it right now. We do not have a good solution that's currently been developed for a good, clean global currency. It's just not there yet. I believe the future is it'll be blockchain-based because I think it's a great idea. Decentralization is something I'm a huge fan of.

1:33:58 It should be backed by a basket of currencies, probably real estate, gold, silver, and some other highly fungible commodities that are in need. Oil, for sure, would be one of those. You do a basket of commodities, it decreases the volatility. If it free floats, the marketplace will take care of it, take care of fluctuations to some degree. The question is who administers it and who does the supervision. And that's the problem because we can't trust our government. I don't think anybody else should either.

1:34:28 There's an old expression is, you know, he controls the supply of currency rules. And that was an old Rothschild's expression. Who would control the supply of that kind of a blockchain? And could it be universally adapted? And we've got a lot of hurdles and trust is a big part of it. Will other countries trust each other? Will they trust the United States? Will we trust a private entity? And it's hard. It's a big challenge and it's an important one. And I'm looking at the X post.

1:35:02 Okay, check this one out. Attorney General Bill Barr sitting in a jumper seat in the back of an open military plane in flight. What are they suggesting there? He says, Bill was done a long time ago. Interesting. Hey, you're back. You know, when I first started this crap, I never had computer problems. That's why it tends everything to Apple.

1:35:31 i've been doing operation gladio i have the freakiest things happening to my computer my whole computer just went black i have no idea why it's not like it's um out of battery i don't know i went and grabbed my husband's computer and i logged on to this because i had the link that i had sent to you and it wouldn't recognize me as the host i logged into my as myself it's like you're backstage waiting for the host and i'm like no i am the host

1:36:01 I was looking at the stage. I couldn't see. Well, welcome back. I was able to entertain everybody, answer some questions and rumble for about 10 minutes. Awesome. Sorry about that. No, I was giving you a couple more minutes. Welcome back. I have the pleasure. I'll be able to edit that portion out when I put this video up tomorrow. Well, my audience is used to it. This happens to me all the time. Technology is your friend. Embrace it.

1:36:29 So I think I left off. I was just let me find where I was in my notes. I was just finishing up with Baker. Yeah, Baker. So let me get back to that. I only have 16 pages of notes on this topic, so it's kind of hard to find my way around. All right. The next later person who is the secretary of treasury for that one month in August of 88. And you cut off when I was asking you what else was going on in August, September of 1988.

1:37:01 Regarding the BCCI investigation. Because what was the date of the raid where they took the wedding raid on BCCI? I don't have those notes in front of me. Let's see. What did I do with my notes? I believe it was 88. I think you're right. But it's interesting that M. Peter McPherson, not a household name. I'm guessing most people have never even heard of this guy. Go ahead and I'll look it up while you're talking.

1:37:33 Well, he was an IRS specialist in international taxation. So it sounds like he has a perfect portfolio to understand what was going on with BCCI. He previously was a Ford administrator, deputy director for the presidential personnel office, where he worked side by side with Dick Cheney. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What? Yes. In the Ford administration, McPherson worked side by side with Dick Cheney, the Prince of Darkness himself.

1:38:07 And in the office that for those of you who don't know what he just said, that does all the background screening on everybody. So they would know who everybody is because they have access to the top level of every kind of computer system to check everybody out. Go ahead. Bingo. And he's working side by side with Dick Cheney. Also would have had that same access. Yes. So the next job he has is he's the administrator for a U.S. agency from 1981 to 1987.

1:38:36 The name of that agency is USAID. Oh, CIA. Well, yes. How does the State Department fund everything, all these quasi-covert operations in the NGOs? It's all through the USAID. This is McPherson for seven years in the 80s. What's going on in the 80s? Iran-Contra. 1988, you were right. Yep, thought so. So the timing of all this is they're shifting people in and out of Treasury and the U.S. Attorney's Office all during that period.

1:39:07 Almost like they want no continuity. Well, yeah, you also want plausible deniability. Mies didn't want anything to do. Yeah, go figure. So he then goes to oversee something called the OPIC, O-P-I-C. Are you familiar with that one? I came across that. Tell me what it is. It wasn't around for long. It's called the Overseas Private Investment Corporation, and its mandate was to help U.S. businesses, listen to this, gain footholds in emerging markets.

1:39:39 So it's another CIA front. Well, you ready for this? It was self-funded and quote unquote self-funded and it would end up being merged into USAID. Oh yeah. That's where I heard it from. Yeah. So that was the precursor that the self-funding come from the oligarchs to go in and buy up everything after they cued the government that their stooge was going to privatize. That's what that was for. And McPherson is running this.

1:40:07 He would then go on to become the chairman of the Dow Jones. Yeah, the Dow Jones company. A little more fun here. From 2006 to 2022, this guy sat and people, this is something we need to dig into. He sat as the chair of the Association of Public Land Grant Universities. And his big goal is to increase, quote, college access and eliminate achievement gap.

1:40:35 That's part of the DEI stuff for the government was putting down. He sat on that. Also, that would have made him the conduit of the CIA into those universities, both on the staff and for recruiting purposes. When you start getting into public land grant universities association, there is a deep rabbit hole. I've only scratched the surface. We could probably spend weeks on that if we ever had the time. That controls an awful lot of quasi-government funding.

1:41:04 They determine, oh, I don't know who sits, who's the president of every department. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. They put CIA agents. I mean, that's how they did the whole Phoenix program was they hired the entire staff of the University of, was it, or Michigan State University. Yeah, exactly. The CIA's embedded in all of them. It's basically what Fauci did, you know, in terms of, with his department, the U.S., whatever. Yeah.

1:41:33 So that's Mr. McPherson. And I would suggest that his connections are deep enough to think that he might have had an incentive to cover up the BCCI scandal. Probably. I got one more for you. Okay. Secretary of the Treasury from 1988 through 1993. So which means he ended with that Clinton inauguration. This guy by the name of Nicholas Brady. And I really wish he had a different last name because he pops up in my life way too often.

1:42:01 He was once upon a time, he was the long term chairman of Dylan Reed and Company, which is a storied Wall Street bank. Yeah, that comes up all the time. Go ahead. Jump into it. That's more. Well, I mean, just from the perspective of like the they're like a modern day Sullivan and Cromwell. They come up in a lot of the international deals where representing these entities that are not good entities.

1:42:31 Yeah, they would have been quasi on the same level as Lehman Brothers or those type of banks. They spent a lot of time in international. Kuhn Loeb would have been a competitor. A lot of these old Wall Street banks, these are the banks that were funneling money. I was thinking that was the law firm. Sorry. No, this is an investment bank. It has a similar name that's one of the law firms that keeps coming up. Go ahead and find it and I will jump in when you want.

1:42:58 So what else is Nicholas Brady? Well, he's a Reagan appointee for the quote-unquote Commission on Salaries. When he becomes the Treasury Secretary, he is the one who launched the Brady Plan. That's why I can't stand the guy hearing my name and not talking about me. And he's the one who created what's called the Brady Bonds. These are international U.S. Treasury-backed bonds that they issued to...

1:43:23 Third world countries, borrowers from the US, from the United States, IMF, World Bank. And they were a way for third world countries to finance themselves with the auspices of US backing. This replaced the Baker plan with middling success. Since 94, he's been the chairman of Franklin Templeton, which is a big investment management firm. Used to be bigger than BlackRock. He's the director, ah, you're going to love this one, of Hess Corporation. Where do we know Hess Corporation from?

1:43:55 I don't know. Remind me. Oil and gas exploration and production. Okay. They were a contractor out of Iraq. Yeah. Got it. S oil. Yeah. Yeah. He also was a director of a company called Weatherford international, which is another oil field services since 2004. They were doing, doing a ton of money work in Iraq. And what he's been doing the last 15, 20 years, he's been a trustee at Rockefeller university.

1:44:23 And for those who don't recall, Rockefeller University is the oldest biomedical research institute in the United States, and I would say the world. And he sits on their board. So that is Mr. Nicholas Brady, who was the Secretary of the Treasury, who also declined any real prosecutions of BCCI in the early 90s. He's also Yale. Yeah, of course. It was going to be over and over again. It's an old boys club.

1:44:49 He was also on the MITRE Corporation, which, by the way, CIA. And he was a director at the Heinz Corporation. Like Teresa Hines, like Kelly Teresa Hines. Who married who John Kerry married. And, of course, John Kerry was leading the Senate investigation in the BCCI. It's such a small family. Well, you know, it's funny. You know, I was looking at John Kerry. And, of course, when I was doing the skull and bones research. And I was wondering if there were any.

1:45:19 More connections to John Kerry. There's someone else by the last name of Hines who is an older Skull and Bones alumni. So I have not unpeeled that one yet, but I think there's something there. Teresa Hines' husband? Yes, it's John Kerry, of course. No, no, she was married to Hines. That's how she got the inheritance. Okay, so it would have been her father or grandfather would have been, or uncle, had some kind of Skull and Bones connection.

1:45:47 I need to verify that. And that's been a while since I went and looked for that, but there is a Heinz listed on the skull and bones roster. Yeah. So Heinz is what is her married name. That's not her maiden name. So she married into the Heinz fortune. Yes. And then inherited herself. Yes. And her first husband was in the Senate and mysteriously died. I am.

1:46:24 Hold on. I got to pick this up because this is crazy. Okay. John Hines. Yeah. John Hines. Oh, my God. He died in 1991. No shit. Okay. So, yeah. John Hines. Yeah. He's from Yale as well.

1:46:58 John Hines III, heir to the H.J. Hines Company. Hines moved to San Francisco with his mother and stepfather, U.S. Navy Captain Clayton Monte McCauley, blah, blah, blah. Oh, and so, you know, another childhood tragedy of not having the family together. They all have this, like,

1:47:28 typical background. So he becomes Senator and he faced Arlen Specter in his successful Senate run. And he came under fire for illegal donations to Gulf oil, which he got donations from Gulf oil. He returned them. Hines would defeat Specter in the primary.

1:47:58 blah blah blah he goes on he sits on oh my gosh he sat on the committee for banking housing and urban affairs on the committee on finance and also the national commission on social security reform so um yeah he was a big deal and then it says heinz and six other people including two children were killed in a bell helicopter

1:48:26 and a Piper Airstar midair collision. And there was a lot of speculation that that was not a coincidence. And it says, following the funeral in Pittsburgh, a Washington, D.C. memorial was held in which President George H.W. Bush attended. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, big deal. And then Teresa Hines, his widow, goes on to marry John Kerry.

1:48:58 And Teresa Hines was five and a half years older than John Kerry at the time. So here we have John Kerry, you know, very successful, prominent person, somehow single and decides to marry for pure love someone five years older than him. You would think it would be the other way, other direction. That's not the typical behavior. So obviously he married for money and power. But yeah, we're going to have to have more fun with that.

1:49:26 particular corner when we get into skull and bones yeah because she has some very interesting um background um her parents um were from portuguese colony mozambique mozambique um and there's all kinds of international intrigue with her theresa hines and so it's almost like she's a handler just gonna throw that out there when you

1:49:58 Yeah, there's been enough whispers of that and connections that's worth looking into. I had mentioned earlier that Baker was the UN envoy to Western Sahara. And I don't have the exact year of that. I'm trying to find that because Western Sahara has got some interesting gladiotype conversations about it. Have you ran into that one yet? Oh, yeah. We went over all of the, well, pretty much the entire continent of Africa.

1:50:29 Um, in general, um, let me, let me pull this up. Well, then you, I, and, uh, Gordon goes to base. Patrick Henry talked about the more recent Gladio efforts going on in Africa, like especially the Congo, uh, correct. What's going on there. But, um, so go ahead. I was going to say Western Sahara is something that's, you know, pops up on the radar about once a decade. And I.

1:50:59 want to double check the dates but if baker was there at a certain period of time i think there's more there than meets the eye that i have not looked into yet yet um there was lots of shenanigans going on um in western sahara especially in some of their border um areas when we um talked about um them i don't know how you say the the country that's right next to it maurya tanya

1:51:32 mauritania uh interestingly mauritania has been in the news the last three days yeah because the mauritanian illegal immigrant who uh actually murdered yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of really interesting stuff that has went on in that area very very very poor part of the world maybe as poor as it gets is that area we're talking about yeah which is weird although um a lot of the um corporations like

1:52:03 Goodyear for rubber. That's a great place for the rubber industry. That's what we found in Angola and various other parts of the eastern seaboard of Africa. Goodyear, Goodrich, they all had rubber plantations over there that they were exploiting the workers.

1:52:26 So you mean that a country that had cheap resources and cheap labor might get exploited by a multinational corporation and that's the reason people are still poor? I can't even imagine that. Is that like modern day colonialism? It might be. Just mercantilism, different flavor. Use the CIA and NGOs as opposed to the State Department and the corporations or the countries actually owning them in the past.

1:52:54 Hey, I'm coming up on my time limit and I don't have anything else prepared for today. Do you want to wrap up or bring home the big picture we talked about today? And are we going to do skull and bones next week? No, not yet. Unless you want to do it at a different time. Because I do have at least one or two more that I want to do on the criminality of BCCI. The actual weapons deals, the actual.

1:53:23 banking locations, people that they had on their boards and kind of delve into that. I'll get you an outline in the next couple of days that'll just kind of give an overview of that segment because

1:53:40 Literally everything that went on, all of the dictators had accounts there, all of the Iraq illegal weapons. And as I mentioned, the triggers that the entire Pakistani government's defense department was supplied through money coming out of BCCI. The nuclear triggers to put on their tactical nuclear weapons was financed by BCCI. Of course.

1:54:07 Yeah, that'll be fun. That's definitely next week. That all depends on what happens with the election on Tuesday. Yeah. Depending on what happens, we may divert attention to more immediate matters and looking into the history. So we pencil in next Thursday? Yeah. Very good. Well, let's wrap up what we talked about today. If you want to give a summary. I think you're the best one to give the summaries and you're the one that come up with it. I mean, I just, in my opinion.

1:54:38 That's the reason why you and I sat down to do this. Your extensive banking background is like the picture mirror of my military dig into Gladio. And because nothing that the Gladio operation could have been done without the banking element. You cannot have one without the other. Correct.

1:55:04 And so that's why when you and I first talked about doing this together, it was like the match made in heaven because I can talk to, and I think we've laid all of the groundwork out in the actual banking elements of it. And then we're going to transition to the military, the militant, the paramilitary aspect of this bank, because it wasn't a bank. It was actually a bank posing as a weapons dealer, a human trafficker.

1:55:32 and a drug trafficker and we're going to lay that out in the next two shows yeah the takeaway i would give everybody is don't think about a bank as a bank don't think about the banking system what it is it is a network of all different kinds of banks some of them pristine doing things correctly some of them doing completely underworld stuff caught in the middle of that is all of our regulators which basically are

1:56:00 What they decide to regulate and what they decide to turn a blind eye to are determined for political purposes. Now you recognize why it is that our politicians are not really organic grassroots people that the people love, but they are selected by the power brokers, the multinational corporations that have the money. They have to put their people in power so that they can have the bottlenecks of all of these regulatory positions. And they have to have the regulators.

1:56:30 to give the appearance of authenticity. But I think we've done a good job today of exposing that some of the most decorated law enforcement and treasury officials in history have connections that are definitely worth questioning. And they tie all the way back to some of the shadiest parts of America's foreign policy and the entire international criminal syndicate. So all along just reminded me

1:56:57 that senator tower's plane crash happened right around the same time as senator heinz plane crash and he believes that they were in the same type of aircraft um obviously two separate instances but that um because the tower commission is the one that was investigating the iran contra affair you know it's funny i was in college when that stuff happened so i caught

1:57:28 paid attention to part of but i really started paying attention in 1990 and i haven't told this story on the air before do you remember the gentleman by the name of ian spiro yes ian spiro was a you know multinational businessman who had some interesting combinations he apparently murdered and killed his entire family in rancher state of santa fe california in 1990 i believe it was

1:57:54 His wife, who I will tell you right now, he did not murder, was my mom's tennis partner. I know this Bureau family. Those kids I've had over, we've had over at our house. We've had holidays with these people. That was a Middle East hit team in the middle of San Diego. And that's when I started digging into the Middle East connections all the way back in 1990.

1:58:13 And I'm in college at the time, so the resources, you had to go into the newspaper and read through all the different newspapers because the local is not covering it. But yeah, that was absolute. If you ever want to look up a real live hit, happened in Rancho Santa Fe, California. And I'm telling you right now, I knew Ian Spiro. It did not murder his family. These are good people. He just got ticked off the wrong Middle East business partners. And I got kind of cut off in my research back at the time. The Internet wasn't really around.

1:58:41 But I'm going back and taking a look at that one again. And it does tie into some of the things we're talking about. So this one's this one is actually personal to me. Yeah. And you have the guy that was down in North Carolina that was part of the Fort Bragg crew that was charged. He was a doctor. He was charged with murdering his family and two little girls. This happens. And we just said had the Menendez brothers. Right. That they supposedly was convicted of killing their parents only to find out the parents really was. They were.

1:59:11 into the child molestation. And they're now that's coming out. So I say this almost daily now, our entire history is a lie. An awful lot of it is. And it all comes down to who writes the history. The winners do. The ones not put in jail. The start of the program.

1:59:44 OK, so we're going to call it a day for today. That was quite a lot of information. Probably going to have to play this a couple of different times to get all the names. And we are planning on doing one next Thursday, but it may be preempted.

2:00:02 And so just hang with this. If we don't do it next Thursday, and maybe we could record one to play next Thursday. We'll check our schedules and figure that part out. But also, worst case scenario, we'll do it the following Thursday. And we're going to really dig into the criminality piece of BCCI and the last two that we do. Yeah, I just hope the Internet survives the post-election riots. They're coming to a street near you. No, I really hope that doesn't happen.

2:00:30 is not going to shut the internet down i'll tell you everybody if you are not prepped by next tuesday you've probably missed your window i mean i've got months of food supply water supply pew pew i am concerned about what happens after this election so um i think there's reason to be concerned but i also believe that that has been anticipated so well i hope you are correct

2:01:03 We shall see. Until the next time. Thanks for having me, Colonel. Thank you, Brady, very much for being here. Thanks everybody for tuning in. See you next time. Cheers.

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BCCI operated_in Panama host_asserted ▶ 4:16

“I think what you see happen is there's always going to be some kind of a financial market where money that can't be transparent has to be, it's got to go someplace to get washed or to be stored outsid…”

BCCI operated_in Switzerland host_asserted ▶ 4:16

HSBC laundered_money_for Green Gang host_asserted ▶ 4:45

“So we get prohibition ends. And of course, the mafia has got to find new markets. This is when Lucky Luciano takes over the five families in New York. We know all about Operation Underworld, so I won'…”

Lucky Luciano headed Green Gang host_asserted ▶ 4:45

Du Yusheng headed Green Gang host_asserted ▶ 5:15

“for the opium smugglers. And Shanghai is under the authority of the UK at this period. Yeah, I believe so. That's correct. It's an international settlement. And you've got the Green Gang is the bigges…”

Du Yusheng operated_in Shanghai host_asserted ▶ 5:15

Du Yusheng moved_to Hong Kong host_asserted ▶ 6:14

“Yes. Kind of like the CIA. But I digress. Go ahead. Well, so the Green Gang is, you know, branching into, quote unquote, legitimate businesses. A little curveball gets thrown at them when Japan invade…”

Paul Helliwell trained Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 6:41

“The OSS got involved about that time. I'll let you comment on that because you know it pretty well. Well, that's where people have heard me talk about this. As a matter of fact, we were just talking a…”

Chiang Kai-shek operated_in Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 7:08

“This is a great business model for the new CIA that had just been set up. And they're trying to maneuver Chiang Kai-shek back into China because he's now been pushed out. He's in Burma initially, then…”

Chiang Kai-shek operated_in Burma host_asserted ▶ 7:08

Ho Chi Minh overthrew Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 8:01

“They had divided the country into two because it was too large for one country to do. The UK had the southern province of Vietnam and Chiang Kai-shek actually had the northern part. But Ho Chi Minh ba…”

Douglas MacArthur targeted_for_regime_change Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 8:27

“And so they were looking for a place to set him up in business. And so you have him constantly moving around. But the whole thing MacArthur was insistent upon, which is why we went into Korea in the w…”

Mao Zedong overthrew Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 9:27

“So Mao Zedong comes to power and kicks a lot of those bad guys out. They end up in Hong Kong or Taiwan and various other places throughout what became the Golden Triangle. Skipping across the pond or …”

Michele Sindona laundered_money_for Gambino crime family host_asserted ▶ 12:52

“He ended up being a banker for the mafia in the Vatican, but I'll get to that. He came out of Milan, which was becoming a post-war industrial hub. And Sedona becomes a banker for the rich people who w…”

Michele Sindona operated_in Milan host_asserted ▶ 12:52

Paul L. Williams wrote Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 14:21

“um flow the agenda today kind of an outline and um we got into the whether or not there was actually a communist presence in italy and the first book that i read paul williams operation gladio talks a…”

Enrico Mattei headed Italy host_asserted ▶ 20:16

“energy guy. So he's like the Department of Energy for the country of Italy. He had this philosophy that he was going to change the way they did business with Africa. He was going to give them fair dea…”

Enrico Mattei did_business_with Algeria host_asserted ▶ 20:16

Red Brigades assassinated Enrico Mattei host_asserted ▶ 21:13

“got this guy's body and they examined the inside of his gold ring. It had fragments from a bomb blast. And they confirmed that he had, in fact, been blown up. And they confirmed that people that were …”

Operation Gladio trained Red Brigades host_asserted ▶ 21:13

Michele Sindona operated_in Cuba host_asserted ▶ 25:58

“All right, jumping back to banks. So we've got Sindona. He goes to New York City in the 50s, builds up a bunch of networks, gets to know a bunch of right-wing politicians, New York bankers, becomes a …”

Meyer Lansky did_business_with Michele Sindona host_asserted ▶ 25:58

Fulgencio Batista did_business_with Michele Sindona host_asserted ▶ 25:58

Michele Sindona founded Asian Development Bank host_asserted ▶ 26:27

“The whole government can organize crime. And they just built this fantasy world for consenting adults. The big bank Sindona built in Cuba is called the Bandas Development Bank. And what they did is th…”

Fidel Castro overthrew Fulgencio Batista host_asserted ▶ 26:54

“money coming from the Jewish mafia in America. And they're totally, totally in cahoots with Batista in Cuba until segue. Until Batista gets overthrown by Fidel Castro. And we also went over this yeste…”

William Black supplied_arms_to Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 28:22

“All of these large sugar plantations, they had taken over the airline. As a matter of fact, the guy that owned the airline was the guy that gave all of the aircraft and ships to Chiang Kai-shek over i…”

Fidel Castro relationship_with Che Guevara host_asserted ▶ 31:28

“You said something interesting, but I just dropped my mind. Well, let me go back to the Shea Cavera thing because that was a sticking point yesterday. So when you have all of this backdrop going on an…”

Che Guevara carried_out_attack Fulgencio Batista host_asserted ▶ 32:47

“Castro and Che Guevara go into the mountains and they basically set up a terrorist training camp like Gladio is. And they start launching operations against the government, Batista, out of this traini…”

Che Guevara member_of Operation Condor host_asserted ▶ 33:16

“of Operation Condor, which was the overthrowing of all of the governments in Latin America, to include Central America, Che Guevara shows up. And he always shows up on the peasants' side of the fight,…”

Felix Rodriguez assassinated Che Guevara host_asserted ▶ 34:41

“extremities, his legs, his arms, and then finished him in the head. He died one of the most gruesome deaths at the hands of the CIA. And Felix Rodriguez admitted he was in the room. He has never admit…”

Michele Sindona funded Cosa Nostra host_asserted ▶ 37:05

“You have to have some kind of banking or tax haven. We talked about Liechtenstein. We talked about Switzerland. It was Shanghai for a bit. And it always seems to shift. Cuba seemed to be a haven for i…”

Michele Sindona funded Institute for the Works of Religion host_asserted ▶ 37:33

“What he's doing is he's investing their money in these various tax havens. Again, Lichtenstein and Switzerland. Setting up shell corporations of shell corporations of trusts. And there's all kinds of …”

Marcinkus headed Institute for the Works of Religion host_asserted ▶ 41:21

“is basically in bed with the mafia in the United States. It was called the Illinois Continental Bank or something like that. And so a lot of money laundering going on there. And you have Marcinkus get…”

Marcinkus did_business_with Cosa Nostra host_asserted ▶ 41:21

Richard Nixon targeted_for_regime_change Corsican Mafia host_asserted ▶ 42:17

“war on drugs of the nixon administration in the early 1970s they took out the um french mafia the uh corsican mafia that had the monopoly on the number four heroin refinement um there and they shifted…”

Stafford Sands member_of Bay Street Boys host_asserted ▶ 44:38

“The main one is a guy by the name of Stafford Sands. They tried to set up a whole new, I guess, Cuba on Grand Bahama, which wasn't much of an island before they started pumping money into it. They tri…”

P2 Masonic Lodge member_of Knights of Malta host_asserted ▶ 46:35

“A couple of journalists begin in the mid-1960s investigating this because they're seeing patterns. If a prosecutor brings a case against anybody affiliated with GLaDOS, because you haven't mentioned t…”

Robert Mueller did_business_with John Kerry host_asserted ▶ 56:30

“Senate investigation. Yeah, exactly. Well, it turns out that they grew up not even an hour from where I'm sitting right here in Concord, New Hampshire, and were high school lacrosse teammates, which i…”

Edwin Meese worked_under Delwyn Lowell Jensen host_asserted ▶ 57:29

“Yeah. Well, the big name, who's the U.S. Attorney General in 1985 through August 1988, was a guy by the name of Edwin Meese. Meese came out of, he worked under, some interesting background things on M…”

Drug Enforcement Administration funded DALITE host_asserted ▶ 57:29

Delwyn Lowell Jensen funded DALITE host_asserted ▶ 57:29

U.S. Department of Justice supplied_arms_to Promise Technology host_asserted ▶ 57:58

“That stands for the District Attorney's Automatic Legal Information System. I bring it up because it's the same software base as Promise. And Colonel, what is Promise? It's supposedly a software that …”

U.S. Department of Justice supplied_arms_to Mossad host_asserted ▶ 57:58

Edwin Meese member_of Ronald Reagan host_asserted ▶ 58:30

“nil and void, but they didn't use it for that because they set up a back door to it so that they could track everybody else's money laundering and do their own undetected. So Mises is involved in the …”

Edwin Meese carried_out_attack University of California, Berkeley host_asserted ▶ 58:52

“Here's a fun part of him. He was probably the most instrumental person in the decision to crack down on the student protesters in Berkeley in 1969. So my question for you is, if Mies is already a deep…”

Herbert Marcuse taught_at Columbia University host_asserted ▶ 1:01:35

“A lot of that came out of the University of California system. There was a guy by the name of Marcuse, one of the original nine professors that came over from Frankfurt University to Columbia in 1934.…”

Herbert Marcuse taught_at University of California, San Diego host_asserted ▶ 1:01:35

Edwin Meese member_of National Security Council host_asserted ▶ 1:02:03

“So there are definitely different players on the field in the 60s in California. Yeah. Where are we talking about? Oh, okay. So Meese joins the Reagan White House as a chief counsel right from almost …”

Edwin Meese member_of Ronald Reagan host_asserted ▶ 1:02:03

Edwin Meese involved_in Iran-Contra host_asserted ▶ 1:02:03

Archibald Cox member_of Watergate scandal host_asserted ▶ 1:02:34

“Yeah, Mies is involved in that. All Operation Gladio. It gets appointed to the U.S. Attorney General in 1985. And interesting, the guy who opposed it vehemently was a guy by the name of Archibald Cox.…”

Archibald Cox opposed Edwin Meese host_asserted ▶ 1:02:34

Edwin Meese did_business_with Bechtel host_asserted ▶ 1:03:04

“which means he thought he was scum. So here's where Meese gets in a lot, really gets in trouble. This is the number one law enforcement agent in America. He got involved with a company called Bechtel.…”

James McKay cleared Edwin Meese host_asserted ▶ 1:03:36

“You know, what did Bechtel do? They were building, you know, things like projects over in Middle East, whether it be, you know, water reclamation. They are one of the largest defense contractors that …”

Edwin Meese member_of Heritage Foundation host_asserted ▶ 1:04:07

“Ethical lapses. And again, this is... Okay, so let me just point out that he currently sits on the Board of Trustees at the Heritage Foundation with his lack of ethics. And he also was a fellow at the…”

Edwin Meese member_of Hoover Institution host_asserted ▶ 1:04:07

Fred Neuberger member_of Wedtech host_asserted ▶ 1:05:32

“Scary stuff. A guy by the name of John Mariota founds it. Somebody by the name of Fred Neuberger comes in and they started focusing on these DOD contracts. Well, there's a lot of law firms that were i…”

John Mariota founded Wedtech host_asserted ▶ 1:05:32

Vito Castellano member_of New York National Guard host_asserted ▶ 1:06:02

“You had two House members, Mario Biagi, Robert Garcia, both got resigned seats and went to jail on this scandal. A couple of U.S. senators, Clarence Mitchell, Howard Mitchell, they helped WebTech win …”

Vito Castellano worked_under Mario Cuomo host_asserted ▶ 1:06:02

Robert Garcia involved_in Wedtech host_asserted ▶ 1:06:02

Vito Castellano member_of Wedtech host_asserted ▶ 1:06:02

Mario Biaggi involved_in Wedtech host_asserted ▶ 1:06:02

Clarence Mitchell involved_in Wedtech host_asserted ▶ 1:06:02

Howard Mitchell involved_in Wedtech host_asserted ▶ 1:06:02

Paul Castellano member_of Gambino crime family host_asserted ▶ 1:06:32

“And Castellano was also the cousin of the Gambino crime boss, Paul Castellano. I worked with a Castellano at MacDill, and I was always, he was an intel officer. I was always harassing him about being …”

Vito Castellano relationship_with Paul Castellano host_asserted ▶ 1:06:32

Dick Thornburgh member_of Pocono Mountains host_asserted ▶ 1:07:01

“trying to decide whether we should prosecute BCCI. So do you think with those connections, he might have some incentive with some multinational corporations and other organizations maybe to not pursue…”

Dick Thornburgh succeeded Edwin Meese host_asserted ▶ 1:07:01

Dick Thornburgh appointed World Bank host_asserted ▶ 1:08:31

“successfully sued for $180,000 by a guy by the name of Karl Rove. So let's find out what kind of guy was Thornburg after he was Attorney General. Well, in 2002, he's appointed the examiner in the Worl…”

Karl Rove sued Dick Thornburgh host_asserted ▶ 1:08:31

Dick Thornburgh member_of United Nations host_asserted ▶ 1:09:30

“So it's interesting about this guy, Gray, who basically stepped aside to let him run for the Senate seat. Gray ends up being the CEO of the United Negro College Fund, which is an interesting place to …”

Dick Thornburgh worked_for Joe Paterno host_asserted ▶ 1:10:31

“And this is the guy sitting on the UN as a major player at the time. So a couple other fun things about this guy. He was actually hired by Joe Paterno's family to challenge the free report on Jerry Sa…”

William Barr succeeded Dick Thornburgh host_asserted ▶ 1:11:57

“Even more so is the CIA agent like William Pauly that becomes an ambassador. What kind of background check did he get through? All of them. Apparently. They do their own. Well, the attorney general wh…”

William Barr justified Invasion of Panama host_asserted ▶ 1:12:22

“Also known as Trump's attorney general. He was the AG from 91 to 93. When again, PCCI is not investigated. And as a friendly reminder, William Barr worked for the CIA from 1971 to 1977. Correct. He al…”

Jonathan W. Sloat did_business_with George H.W. Bush host_asserted ▶ 1:13:21

“a guy by the name of Jonathan Slopes. And he basically was involved in Bush in some really shady deals with he, let's see, as a government lawyer with the CIA's U.S. Information Agency, the Department…”

Shaw, Pittman, Potts, and Trowbridge front_for International Research and Trade host_asserted ▶ 1:13:50

“And it says that a law firm by the name of Shaw, Pittman, Potts and Trowbridge served as a haven for two key partners that were associated with the private intelligence network that CIA agent Tom Clin…”

James Baker did_business_with George H.W. Bush host_asserted ▶ 1:23:41

“because Mies has equal from the opposite direction has connections to the Bush family. And James Baker from Houston goes into business. What, what, what's the name of that company that him and George …”

Carlisle Companies founded James Baker host_asserted ▶ 1:23:41

James Baker managed George H.W. Bush documented ▶ 1:24:43

“I just showed you the names that doesn't need to be covered, which is why I wanted to say that. So, you know, he so he ends up, you know, we talked about the Baker plan. He would end up managing Bush'…”

James Baker operated_in Western Sahara documented ▶ 1:25:12

“So if you're the secretary of state, you know where the bodies are buried. Interesting that he was there from 89 to 92 because that's when the Soviet Union is breaking up and James Baker is running po…”

James Baker did_business_with Enron documented ▶ 1:25:45

“Interesting, because we've seen a little bit of shenanigans there, have we not? Quite a few, actually. He was also a big consultant to Enron prior to that Enron bankruptcy. And, of course, he managed …”

N. Peter McPherson worked_with Dick Cheney documented ▶ 1:37:33

“Well, he was an IRS specialist in international taxation. So it sounds like he has a perfect portfolio to understand what was going on with BCCI. He previously was a Ford administrator, deputy directo…”

N. Peter McPherson headed USAID documented ▶ 1:38:07

“And in the office that for those of you who don't know what he just said, that does all the background screening on everybody. So they would know who everybody is because they have access to the top l…”

N. Peter McPherson headed Overseas Private Investment Corporation documented ▶ 1:39:07

“Almost like they want no continuity. Well, yeah, you also want plausible deniability. Mies didn't want anything to do. Yeah, go figure. So he then goes to oversee something called the OPIC, O-P-I-C. A…”

Overseas Private Investment Corporation merged_with USAID documented ▶ 1:39:39

“So it's another CIA front. Well, you ready for this? It was self-funded and quote unquote self-funded and it would end up being merged into USAID. Oh yeah. That's where I heard it from. Yeah. So that …”

N. Peter McPherson headed Dow Jones documented ▶ 1:40:07

“He would then go on to become the chairman of the Dow Jones. Yeah, the Dow Jones company. A little more fun here. From 2006 to 2022, this guy sat and people, this is something we need to dig into. He …”

N. Peter McPherson headed Association of Public and Land-Grant Universities documented ▶ 1:40:07

Nicholas Brady headed Dillon, Read & Co. documented ▶ 1:42:01

“He was once upon a time, he was the long term chairman of Dylan Reed and Company, which is a storied Wall Street bank. Yeah, that comes up all the time. Go ahead. Jump into it. That's more. Well, I me…”

Nicholas Brady proposed Brady Plan documented ▶ 1:42:58

“So what else is Nicholas Brady? Well, he's a Reagan appointee for the quote-unquote Commission on Salaries. When he becomes the Treasury Secretary, he is the one who launched the Brady Plan. That's wh…”

Nicholas Brady member_of Hess Corporation documented ▶ 1:43:23

“Third world countries, borrowers from the US, from the United States, IMF, World Bank. And they were a way for third world countries to finance themselves with the auspices of US backing. This replace…”

Nicholas Brady headed Franklin Templeton documented ▶ 1:43:23

Nicholas Brady member_of Rockefeller University documented ▶ 1:43:55

“I don't know. Remind me. Oil and gas exploration and production. Okay. They were a contractor out of Iraq. Yeah. Got it. S oil. Yeah. Yeah. He also was a director of a company called Weatherford inter…”

Nicholas Brady member_of Weatherford International documented ▶ 1:43:55

Nicholas Brady covered_up BCCI scandal host_asserted ▶ 1:44:23

“And for those who don't recall, Rockefeller University is the oldest biomedical research institute in the United States, and I would say the world. And he sits on their board. So that is Mr. Nicholas …”

John Kerry member_of Skull and Bones documented ▶ 1:44:49

“He was also on the MITRE Corporation, which, by the way, CIA. And he was a director at the Heinz Corporation. Like Teresa Hines, like Kelly Teresa Hines. Who married who John Kerry married. And, of co…”

Nicholas Brady member_of MBNA Corporation documented ▶ 1:44:49

Nicholas Brady member_of H.J. Heinz Company documented ▶ 1:44:49

John Heinz member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 1:45:19

“More connections to John Kerry. There's someone else by the last name of Hines who is an older Skull and Bones alumni. So I have not unpeeled that one yet, but I think there's something there. Teresa …”

John Heinz did_business_with Gulf Oil documented ▶ 1:47:28

“typical background. So he becomes Senator and he faced Arlen Specter in his successful Senate run. And he came under fire for illegal donations to Gulf oil, which he got donations from Gulf oil. He re…”

John Heinz died_in John Heinz III Death documented ▶ 1:47:58

“blah blah blah he goes on he sits on oh my gosh he sat on the committee for banking housing and urban affairs on the committee on finance and also the national commission on social security reform so …”

John Kerry married Teresa Heinz documented ▶ 1:48:26

“and a Piper Airstar midair collision. And there was a lot of speculation that that was not a coincidence. And it says, following the funeral in Pittsburgh, a Washington, D.C. memorial was held in whic…”

BF Goodrich operated_in Angola host_asserted ▶ 1:52:03

“Goodyear for rubber. That's a great place for the rubber industry. That's what we found in Angola and various other parts of the eastern seaboard of Africa. Goodyear, Goodrich, they all had rubber pla…”

Goodyear operated_in Angola host_asserted ▶ 1:52:03

BCCI financed_via Pakistan host_asserted ▶ 1:53:40

“Literally everything that went on, all of the dictators had accounts there, all of the Iraq illegal weapons. And as I mentioned, the triggers that the entire Pakistani government's defense department …”

Operation Gladio did_business_with BCCI host_asserted ▶ 1:54:38

“That's the reason why you and I sat down to do this. Your extensive banking background is like the picture mirror of my military dig into Gladio. And because nothing that the Gladio operation could ha…”

John Tower exposed Iran-Contra affair documented ▶ 1:56:57

“that senator tower's plane crash happened right around the same time as senator heinz plane crash and he believes that they were in the same type of aircraft um obviously two separate instances but th…”

Ian Spiro assassinated Spiro family speculative ▶ 1:57:28

“paid attention to part of but i really started paying attention in 1990 and i haven't told this story on the air before do you remember the gentleman by the name of ian spiro yes ian spiro was a you k…”

Ian Spiro did_business_with Spiro family guest_asserted ▶ 1:58:13

“And I'm in college at the time, so the resources, you had to go into the newspaper and read through all the different newspapers because the local is not covering it. But yeah, that was absolute. If y…”