The Shadow State 22 Secret Societies 6; The Bundy Family

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0:16 Hey, buddy. Colonel Roxanne Towner-Watkins and War Hamster Brady here today to continue our Secret Society series. Brady, what are we going to cover today? We are going to go deeper into skull and bones. We're starting around the beginning of the 20th century. And we're going to do a little fast forward because we're going to spend most of the time focusing on this particular family that's got a couple of generations of bones. And those are the Bundys. Awesome.

0:46 So go ahead and get us started. Well, as usual, for people who haven't watched us from the beginning, I'll throw out our thesis to start with and just see if we've connected enough dots for people to draw similar conclusions. And the thesis really is this whole series about secret societies. And probably one I think is the most prominent secret society is Skull and Bones, which is a Yale University.

1:12 type of fraternity they select 15 people juniors every year and somehow these alumni of the secret societies have a tendency to network and find themselves in some of the most amazing and influential positions in every aspect of our society from being a president to supreme court to attorneys general to state judges senators congressmen secretaries of state cia

1:35 uh you name it these guys are involved some of the biggest uh businesses multinational corporations in the world they've sat on the boards and they all have that one thing in common skull and bones um so you know of course that could just be honest networking you know just people that you know have a lot in common or there could be more to it and uh i'm going with this statistics on this one though

2:00 At what point does it become mathematically impossible? Yeah. And that's really what we're doing is we're just highlighting all of these connections. These people are so incestuous. They marry each other's cousins and inner families that keep their mother's maiden names because it's all about the blue blood family pride. That's how you, you know, that shows who you are in society. It basically illustrates the American class system, which we're not supposed to have. And the real takeaway conclusion is, yeah, we have a ruling class in America. They just don't.

2:28 brag about it they do it openly in our faces but they just can't say that they're royalty but we have it and that's pretty much uh what we're trying to do is illustrate that there's so many of these connections it can't be a coincidence and it can't just be pure networking cool let's get started okay um we've been trying to do this chronologically going back from when the skull and bones was founded in the 1830s we do a little bit of flipping back and forth we ended in 1910 last week i gotta i have to go back to um

2:57 I'm sorry, last week we ended in 1908. And we got to go back to 1904 real quick because one of our friends on Twitter slash X, Dr. D Program, who has a wonderful set of documentaries on her channel on Rumble, it's called America Rebooted. And she does really parallel research to what you and I are doing. And I think we both think that she's a pretty darn good researcher. She's amazing. Yeah.

3:23 But she dropped a couple crumbs after watching some of our shows, and I did miss a name last week, and it really needs to be brought up. That name is a guy by the name of Thomas Day Thatcher, T-H-A-C-H-E-R. He's Skull and Bones, class of 1904. He's famous for, you know, he was a U.S. District Judge for the Southern District of New York, one of the most important district judges you can have. He was a New York Court of Appeals, judge on the Court of Appeals.

3:52 Interestingly, he was the U.S. Solicitor General from 1930 to 1933. Solicitor General is the person who argues cases for the government in front of the Supreme Court. It's a very important position, and you don't get there by accident. Some of the biggest cases he argued had to do with, it's interesting, he argued a couple of cases regarding naturalized citizens and their obligations to bear arms.

4:22 We could go deeper into that another time, but those cases, I want to do a deeper dive into that myself. Yeah, because obviously it's very relevant today. Yeah. And the reason, you know, Dr. DeProgram would bring up Thatcher is through marriage to some families like the Browns and the Auchincloss family, which we mentioned last week, which is big and scroll and key. But he's also married into the family we're going to talk about later, the Bundys.

4:51 So this guy's pretty well connected. It's all the intermarriage of the Blue Blood families. Check, check, check. So it's interesting. He worked for his father's law firm, which is called Simpson, Thatcher, and Bartlett. And those people in my world know the name. And I just wanted to give you a real big rundown of all the things they've been involved in lately. In 1988, they were basically the lawyers for the biggest...

5:19 M&A deal in history when KKR bought Nabisco for $25 billion. You can read about that in the book Barbarians at the Gate. They would represent Google when they acquired YouTube. They represented JPMorgan Chase in a debt for General Motors in 2008 when they were trying to bail them out and they screwed it up and cost JPMorgan $1.5 billion because they did an unsecured loan instead of a secured. They represented Tesla in its IPO.

5:50 They were the underwriters for Facebook's launch. They were the lead counsel. Go ahead. No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I want to come back to the JP Morgan thing. Okay, I will. I got like four more of these. They were the lead counsel when Alibaba, the big Chinese company, did its IPO in America. They represented Microsoft in purchase of LinkedIn. They represented Microsoft when they bought GitHub. Interestingly enough, they were one of the law firms last year that,

6:22 sent out letters to the law school deans telling them if you don't curb the anti-Semitism on campus, it's going to impact hiring. You remember that? That was these guys. And they got like four or five final alumni that are recent. One of them is Karenna Gore, who's the daughter of Alan Tipper Gore. Another one is Deborah Archer, who is the current president of the ACLU. There's another former one named Anna Marie Slaughter, who is a director of policy planning for the U.S. State Department.

6:52 And they have a former Goldman Sachs VP. And of course, their star alumni was a woman by the name of Lynn Forrester Rothschild. So go back to JP Morgan. So let me just say, based on everything that you just said, there's no effing way they made a mistake. So let me tell you another pattern in Operation Gladio where it comes to financing.

7:24 unsecured loans is their favorite way using big banks to money launder. Yeah, I get where you're going with that. Especially in international finance and that gets us into the World Bank and that sort of stuff, but yeah. Yes, so there's no way based on the track record you just outlined, they made a mistake. They don't make mistakes like that in law firms of this caliber because these things are

7:57 gone over by like 15 different layers of people. So if it was changed from a secure loan to an unsecure loan, that was a money laundering payment. Yeah, it's a pretty good observation. You're probably definitely on to something there. So go ahead. That's a great catch. So more about this guy. And here's where it gets really fun.

8:25 Well, first of all, he would become a fellow of the Yale Corporation from 1931 to 49. Yale Corporation is basically Yale's management. So obviously he's pretty high up on the Yale totem pole. My favorite part about this guy, he was a major for the American Red Cross Commission to Russia in 1917 and 1918. Are you kidding me? Nope. That's where I recognize the name. So he's in Antony Sutton's book.

8:58 about the group that went over there that was basically casing the joint to be able to go over and exploit all of their resources after their Bolshevik revolution took effect. Yeah, for those who don't know, this is in the middle of World War I, and the British and Russians are technically allies. The Americans had not entered the war yet, but they were about to.

9:24 The Wall Street and London interests financed the Bolshevik Revolution. So they were basically overthrowing their own ally or their own country's ally. So the British, because they're allied, the Russian could send people over because Americans weren't there. Our agents, our operatives went over there under the cover of the Red Cross. Red Cross has been a covert intelligence and other operative for its entire history, as far as I know. It was.

9:52 I mean, is there a single conflict of the 20th century where the Red Cross doesn't have it? Well, this guy was involved in that early on. Yeah, that's mind-blowing. So he was worth bringing up, I would say. Yes. All right, next guy we've got to talk about is Skull and Bones, Yale class of 1908, a guy by the name of Harold Stanley. You should know him because he's the co-founder of Morgan Stanley, one of the biggest players on Wall Street, who I almost went to go work for.

10:24 Once upon a time, we were recruiting me to come work for them and the 2009 financial crisis hit. And among a series of changes of direction, that's when I left Wall Street once and for all because I couldn't stand the stench. So he's a son of William Stanley Jr. This is not a blue blood family as far as I can tell. They kind of were maybe second tier, but he's an inventor to work for GE. But you've heard of the Stanley Works building in Pittsfield, Mass? That's a huge...

10:54 Big industrial Hall of Fame type of building. That's named after his father, Henry Stanley's father. Stanley would become Stanley Black & Decker, which is a huge World War II contractor. Harold Stanley would work for J.P. Morgan at Guarantee & Company, worked with J.P. Morgan Jr., the son of the robber baron. And when Dwight Morrow became the U.S. ambassador to Mexico, he left J.P. Morgan, and Harold Stanley got brought in as a partner. 1934, Congress passes the Glass-Steagall Act, which separates banking...

11:25 So in 1935, to restart the securities business, Harold Stanley and Henry Sturgis Morgan, the grandson of J.P. Morgan, founded Morgan Stanley. So pretty well connected, but not quite blue blood. His dad did graduate from Yale as well. I did not have that. Yeah, 1881. I missed that. He was not a bonesman, though. I know that. No. Yeah. So semi. He has a lot of patents. His dad did.

11:59 Yeah, his dad was a great inventor. Yeah. I mean, General Electric. Someone told me once that he's on their Hall of Fame. Like if you go into the GE building, they've got all these great people in GE history. And this guy's got a, obviously he's got a portrait there. I don't know. And GE was one of the people on the Red Cross trip. Of course they were. Yes, they were. So here's a fun one for you, for the conspiracy theorists out there. There's a lot of them to watch this.

12:32 So Stanley's got no children of his own. However, he was a huge fundraiser in 1940 for a commission called the U.S. Commission for the Care of European Children. That's where they were bringing children out of war-torn Europe over to the United States. Oh, my gosh. I don't know if there's dots to connect there, but what do we always say? It rhymes. Wow. Yeah.

13:05 It says that he raised the equivalent of $32 million. It was 1.5 back in the day for that organization. Yeah. So he was child trafficking. Whether it's legitimate or not. Yes. I mean, okay. Holy crap. The connection gets a little interesting because the founder of that was Eleanor Roosevelt. Makes all the sense in the world.

13:35 Yeah, well, people don't know Eleanor Roosevelt, married to FDR forever. Eleanor Roosevelt caught FDR cheating like back in the 1910s or 20s, a long time ago. But they stayed married as basically partners. Like in the White House, they slept in separate rooms. Out of her biography, I love this. She disliked having sex with her husband. She once told her daughter there was an ordeal to be born, even though she had six kids, five of which lived.

14:04 She considers herself ill-suited to motherhood, later writing, it did not come naturally to me to understand little children or to enjoy them. That's our famous First Lady. What a lovely woman. I bring it up because she grew up in a lot of the eugenicist circles. Yes. And it comes to mind, we just watched the hearings on Capitol Hill where they're going after Pete Hegseth for his improprieties. An FDR who sits on the Democrat Mount Rushmore.

14:36 If only they knew history and they could say that. Because that's what I was screaming when I was watching the clip. I didn't watch it live where he was talking about to Durbin was talking about the world being ran by pedophiles as he blocked the list of pedophiles from being released that

15:07 Pam Bondi, I'm screaming at her going, he's the one blocking the Epstein list. Why did you not say that? So anyway, go ahead. It seems to me that Bondi is not all that well read in on what we would call the truth movement. No, I think she is. But I think saying what she said, she had to say it the way she said it.

15:32 Yeah, which is too bad, actually. You can't say certain things in polite society. You can hint at them. When I'm out in what we call polite company, I wear a lot less tinfoil than I do when I'm doing a show with you. But we all do that. And that's the same thing with doing my show. We had some ground rules. And Bridget and Cousin It and I...

15:58 agreed to the ground rules of what we were going to talk about so that the message that was important which is operation gladio it's not that i hold all of that information back it's this is exactly the propaganda campaign that the cia works so well is wrapping up your truth with tinfoil and as long as they can wrap your truth up with tinfoil it all gets thrown out in the trash with the tinfoil

16:28 Yeah, I'm not letting other people, I won't let them do it in my spaces and I'm not going to let them do it on threads or my X. I am only on X to discuss Operation Gladio. I throw a few other things in there, but that's why I'm there. And I'm not going to allow the controversial stuff to.

16:53 um detract from it it's not that i don't believe some of this other stuff i'm just not going to focus on it right now it's just like we just talked about child trafficking and we don't have to tie it we know it's a thing that's not our thing but it doesn't mean we can't mention it or hint at it let others run with it because right

17:13 Same thing with the MKUltra. Not my area of expertise. And people try to get you involved in that all the time. I'm not talking about it. It's not my area of expertise. There's a hundred accounts on X that will talk to you all day long about it. This is true. All right. So let's jump into the Bundy family. Okay. Oh, shoot. What year is Harvey Hollister Bundy Bonesman? I should have that right here. Hang on.

17:44 I always like to have the year, and I didn't write that one down. He was class of 1909. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Harvey Hollister Bundy, Bonesman, 1909. He was an assistant U.S. Secretary of State from 1931 to 1933. That would have been under FDR. We'd come in and he'd resign. The Bundys were generally Republicans.

18:17 He was a special assistant to the Secretary of War, Bonesman Stinson, Henry Stimson in World War II. And his role there was the liaison between Stimson and who we've talked about before, Vannevar Bush, who basically headed up our entire science department, including the bomb and everything. Harvey Bundy would also help implement the Marshall Plan.

18:44 which was a post-World War II plan to keep Europe from going broke so they could still buy our goods from our multinational corporations after they retooled from the wartime economy. I think it's interesting, like a lot of these guys, Yale undergrad, Harvard Law. Okay, that's Harvey Hollister Bundy. I mean, we've seen that path how many times as we go into these names? Yeah, at least. So it gets out of law school.

19:14 And he clerks for Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes. And I love Oliver Wendell Holmes, and I hate him at the same time. I brought an Oliver Wendell Holmes quote, and I think it's important, something we ought to remember today. The best test of truth is the power of thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market. That, at any rate, is a theory of the Constitution. It is an experiment, as all life is an experiment.

19:44 He said we should be eternally vigilant against attempts to check the expression of opinions that we loathe and believe to be fraught with death. He's talking about censorship back in 1908 when he wrote that. Compare that to today's, you know, what's going on today with censorship. They knew about this at the time what a threat it was. Anyways, that's Oliver Winderholmes. He's also had some opinions that I vehemently disagree with, but that's fine. He's still got to respect the mind.

20:18 More about Bundy before we go on. He's the grandson of a guy named Sullivan Bundy, who was a New York congressman from 1877 to 79. His great-great-grandfather was, I'm sorry, he's the great-great-great-grandfather of Jake Auchincloss, there's that name again, who is a current Democrat congressman from Massachusetts. Or he wasn't, is he still? I think he was until recently, at least. His son, his father was the first McGeorge Bundy, who's just a lawyer, nothing too special about him.

20:51 He was a lawyer at a group fund called Putnam, Putnam & Bell, which is important because he would marry Catherine Lawrence Putnam, the daughter of one of the founders of Putnam, Putnam & Bell. He's the niece of a guy of the Harvard president named Abbott Lawrence Lowell. And he's interesting because he's the guy who tried to limit Jewish enrollment to 15% at Harvard.

21:19 And he tried to ban African-Americans from living in freshman halls at a time where Harvard's freshmen had to live in the halls. So it was a backdoor ban on African-Americans at Harvard. That's the family he married into. Interesting. Last piece on him was in 1952. He became the chairman of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Another one of those fancy sounding NGOs. But the person he succeeded in 1952 as the chairman of that Carnegie Endowment.

21:52 Oh, that would be John Foster Dulles. So a couple of things on him, his involvement. So first of all, he was intimately involved, as you said, in the Manhattan Project. Right. So if you guys go back and listen to the show I just did with Alpha last night about the Battelle company in Columbus, that is like one of the number one government contractors, not solely in the defense, as a matter of fact.

22:23 primarily in the Department of Energy, which has to do with nuclear. Battelle was created in the early 20s and went full scale 1929 into the Manhattan Project. And so this guy is going to be part of that initiative to work on the Manhattan Project with the Battelle crowd. And we've already established that the Battelle

22:52 crowd has their long ties to DARPA, CIA, and all of the precursor arrangements to include State Department with these people. So he fits right into that mold. His involvement in the Marshall Plan is very important from a Gladio perspective because

23:16 Most people view the Marshall Plan as an economic plan, but it was also the seed money given to all of these countries to set up their initial Gladio program while they were setting up the drug running that they were going to use for long term. Because keep in mind, after World War II, we don't have complete control over the opium production. We're working on that by setting up and sponsoring Chiang Kai-shek.

23:43 In the meantime, they needed an immediate flow of money to set up all of the Gladio units that they were doing throughout all of Western Europe. But they were actually trying to see them into the Soviet Union at the same time. They needed a lot of money fast. The Marshall Plan and all of the people involved in it was involved in Operation Gladio initially. Go ahead, finish your thought. I was just going to say the Carnegie.

24:11 was one of the organizations that hid intelligence assets prior to the World War II phenomenon of Operation Gladio and all that other stuff after where we actually housed them in the CIA. Yeah. I'd just like to hammer home a point about the Marshall Plan.

24:33 You know, we entered in the Great Depression in 1929. We did not get out of it till World War II. And what we did is we took our entire production, we went into wartime production and that boosted GDP as we rammed up our tax rates to fight the war. Well, coming out of World War II, we've got, you know, six million servicemen coming back home. There weren't going to be, we didn't need to build more war machines. And they had to figure out, you know, had you just backed off and gone back to normal peacetime activities?

25:01 our industries would have, you know, they would have shuttered. Jobs would have been lost. Unemployment would have been off the charts and we would have been back into a Great Depression. Most of the world was completely bombed out, you know, from World War II. We were the only people, only major economy that didn't see any action on, you know, our soil outside of Honolulu. So the Marshall Plan was basically a way to lend money to our European allies and also people in Asia. So they'd have enough money to keep buying our stuff as we converted our industries to consumer goods.

25:31 Sounds like a big money laundering scheme to me, but go ahead. That's exactly what it was. And the people who owned the multinational corporations that sat on all these boards just happened to be the same people that set up these Intel operations. Yes, 100%. And implemented the Marshall Plan as their buddies from Skull and Bones sat on the boards of the companies that made the money. Yes. That's the point that needs to be hammered home over and over again. Why did we do it? Yes. Follow the money, my friend. Yes.

26:01 OK, next one. All right. So what he's really famous for, Mr. Harvey Hollister Bundy, is he was the father of two bones men. And we're going to jump forward to 1939 with a gentleman by the name of William P. Bundy, bonesman class of 1939. I like the fact that we talk about all these connections, right? They run, you know, basically set our policy. William P. Bundy married a woman named by the name of Mary Atchison.

26:31 Who is she? Oh, just the daughter of Truman's Secretary of State, Dean Acheson. Yeah. So keep it in the family. This guy's the Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs during LBJ and Nixon until 1969. What's going on in East Asia at that point in time? The Vietnam War and the setting up of our Golden Triangle.

27:01 Exactly. And why was he qualified to do that? Well, let's see. 1943, he joins the Army Signal Corps. And what is that? Those are the codebreakers. They've been movies about this. What do they call it? The 6813th Army Signals Corps that worked with the British in Bletchley Park. These were the codebreakers. That's William P. Bundy. He'd get recruited by the CIA in the 1950s.

27:33 And he worked as an analyst. Which is Operation Gladio. Go ahead. I worked for something called the Office of National Estimates. I did some work for Eisenhower. So let me just say, the national estimates at that time are the people responsible for creating the boogeyman of communism. He's the guy that would have saw communists everywhere in the Congo, in Chile.

28:04 in Nicaragua, all of those places, Guatemala back in the 50s. This is the guy that created all of the estimates that saw communists everywhere in Korea for us to go in and murder hundreds of thousands of people because of this fake boogeyman called communism. That's this guy right here. Go ahead. Yeah, and he's in his late 20s, early 30s, and he's getting boosted into these positions because of his family and his skull and bones ties.

28:34 This is a young guy. He's just a lawyer. Obviously, he's a smart guy, but it's all about the connections, how he got there. Go ahead. You got some more? I got a couple quotes. We'll get there in a second. He spent some time in the private sector working for a law firm that we all should know and love called Covington and Burling. Burlington, yeah.

29:01 Yeah, well, that's Eric Holder's law firm, among many others. We could do an entire show of Covington and Burling alumni, and that is basically, that is swamp central. I would say that's the swampiest of the D.C. law firms. Sullivan and Cromwell? Sullivan and Cromwell is a Wall Street law firm. That's true, that's true. Okay, so they're the equivalent in D.C. Yeah, I think there used to be a bigger difference than there is today. Yeah.

29:29 When I got into the investment business, you know, right around late 90s, early 2000s, there was actually a bit of a Chinese wall between Wall Street and D.C. D.C. was not one of the wealthiest places to live. Companies that did business with the government as opposed to the private sector were frowned upon. And of course, that changed over the last two decades. And now D.C. has got the wealthiest neighborhoods in the world. That's how swampy we've gotten. Yeah, my house that I bought.

29:55 um when i was stationed there in um when did we get there 93 um sold recently for like 750 000 i paid 160 for it in 93. yeah i mean i used to i should find these old graphics because i had them showing the difference in how the real estate from dc they're the best neighborhood around dc who's like ranked number 12 in the country and now they got three of the top five

30:27 And that really didn't live anywhere near a top one. I was 15 miles out in Northern Virginia. But yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it just it just changed. The government got, you know, that's it really is the last two decades. There used to be a difference between the two. So we talk about D.C. law firms versus Wall Street law firms. They were different animals. I'm sure there's a whole lot more overlap in there today than it used to be. Oh, yeah.

30:55 Yeah, because lobbying became the best expenditure of capital expenditures for a corporation. Yeah. But as the government got bigger and bigger and the politicians got more and more corrupt, it made a ton of sense. You needed to spend money lobbying, which means you needed people on the ground in D.C. And that's really how it all happened. Follow the money. All right. What did William P. Bundy also do? Well, he becomes the editor for Foreign Affairs from 1972 to 1984.

31:29 What's Foreign Affairs? That's the Journal of the Council for Relations. So he's their spokesman. And he would decline an offer from David Rockefeller, who's the chairman of the CFR, to have Bundy become the president. So no small inconsequential gentleman, Mr. William P. Bundy. He said you have some quotes on him. So he, first of all, we're going to bring up this book right here, The Old Boys.

32:00 War Hamster wants to do book reviews as well. So we decided that to start him off on his new career of doing book reviews as well, so we can do double the work here. Him and I are going to do this book together on a space like we do. We will commit to a period of a couple of weeks every day. We will do this book together.

32:29 because he's the one that originally recommended this book to me. And then he can launch on his own. If we like it, we can continue. But it's not like I'm sending him off on his own, because I love doing shows with him. But in this book, it mentions William Bundy and Dick Bissell together. And William Bundy is quoted as saying that Bissell,

32:59 was the real mental center behind the engine room of the Marshall plant, which we were just talking about. And it says basically for Frank Wisner, and who's that? That's the guy that was running the covert operations, Operation Gladio cell out of the CIA, says as fast as he was starting to expand.

33:23 The counterpart funds seem to be a godsend. So as Wisner is setting up Gladio, he's using the Marshall Plan funds to do it. So I just wanted to bring that connection out. One other one is who we just talked about says there.

33:48 This one is set in the conversation around McCarthy and his all-out hunt for communists. It says, Alan Dulles despised McCarthy. Liberals took note approvingly of Dulles' willingness to refuse to cooperate with McCarthy when he demanded that the CIA dump Dean Atkinson's son-in-law, William Bundy. So there's a story behind that.

34:19 Alger Hiss was one of the major targets of McCarthy. Hiss and Bundy both taught at Harvard at the same time. That's an affiliate there. Hiss had previously served as the Carnegie president before one of the Bundys. So that's kind of where the connection was there. So McCarthy targets Bundy and not just Alan Dulles, but Richard Nixon also defended Bundy and then the matter got dropped. Yeah.

34:49 Tight little circle there. Another fun historical side note is everyone knows that the McCarthy quote-unquote witch hunt got stopped. He's going after communists. The person who sabotaged that and basically blackballed McCarthy, Alan Dulles. He actually stopped the McCarthy trials was Dulles. You wouldn't think that would be the case because Dulles was on the side of these anti-commies apparently. McCarthy's supposed to be going after commies. There was a lot more in play. We ought to really spend some time

35:19 Well, but let me just hold up here. If you actually started searching out the actual communist, you couldn't have fake ones. Alan Dulles marketed in fake ones, not real ones. If McCarthy would have kept going, he would have discovered that the national estimates were based on fake ones. He couldn't allow him to finish. Interesting.

35:53 I've never taken that thought all the way down that trail. Here, wait a minute. This is my Gladio glasses. All right. Well, that's all I've got on Bill Bundy. All right. Let's move on. He's got a brother who just seems to pop up everywhere we look. Everywhere. Got by the name of McGeorge Bundy, Golan Bonesman, 1940. So one year younger. I'm going to give it just a high level view because the colonel is just going to go. I mean,

36:30 she's got bundy you know she can just from memory she'd go for hours on mcgeorge bundy so he would be the national security advisor for both jfk and lbj from 1961 to 66 and what's his brother doing at the time yeah um after he leaves that becomes the president of the ford foundation from 1966 to 79 what do we know about that you know ford foundation yeah um

37:01 Basically, I go to the past. He selected this Council of Foreign Relations in 1949 at the age of 29 years old. He would then work on implementing the Marshall Plan. This guy's involved in Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile Crisis. One of the big architects of Vietnam as he works for LBJ. I'm going to turn it over to you. He worked in World War II as an intel officer. He's sitting on the boat.

37:30 of the USS Augusta when witnessing Operation Overlord. This guy's one of the Forrest Gumps of Skull and Bones. Oh I love that. That's actually a great way of characterizing this guy. So first of all, little review, the National Security Advisor, you know the thing that Flynn was such a threat at because they basically have

37:58 the coordination oversight of the CIA, and he wasn't allowed to see anything that they do. So this is the guy. This is the guy that was overviewing everything. Now, national security advisors during this time and after all ran the covert operations under plausible deniability for the president. McGeorge Bundy was the covert operation.

38:27 operation gladio overlord for both jfk administration and then follow on lbj everything that happened the committee that we just reviewed guys the 5412 in this book here the president's secret wars that we're reviewing right now that book illustrates to you exactly how that whole setup works 5412-2 gave the cia covert

38:55 um for anything that was deemed communist originally and then communist and terrorism after that when it was amended so that's where that's where the 303 committee came out of right yes but it wasn't originally called that it's been called like 10 12 different names every president um says they're doing away with that and then they set it right back up with a different name the pcg in 1955 lasted all of a year and i remember nelson rockefeller was running that and he folded it

39:23 Because this is a quote from Nelson Rockefeller, the CIA was not being forthcoming with details. Yeah. And then it comes right back up. And it was called the group of 45. It's had several different names. But what they are, are layers for plausible deniability. There will be an action officer level group. Then there's a principal only group. And then there's like for Eisenhower, there were like four.

39:52 And that for he had his representative and that representative couldn't write anything down. He could only come talk to Eisenhower about it because they didn't want anything in writing that he knew, like when he ordered the killing of Lumumba and all those other things, which he did. You just aren't allowed to know he did it. So this is the guy that served that role for JFK. And and by the way, just so that you know.

40:21 They didn't bring everything to the president. There were operations that the president really didn't know about. And that's the problem with plausible deniability. Because it's plausible that the president never really did know. So you have an entire organization authorized to do covert operations, and there is zero accountability ever since it started. Zero.

40:47 Well, I'll give you a great example of how zero accountability came out of there. One of the two things that came out of that Committee of 303 was, of course, that they had the submarines outside of the United Arab Republic, the UAR, and this directly ties into the USS Liberty. And that's the group that was absolutely involved and ordered the Liberty. So, correct. Under LBJ. Who was this guy?

41:18 This is the guy that would have known all about the USS Liberty. Okay. Probably gave the order. Hold on. He left in 66. Liberty 67. Yeah. Although the plan could have been done well in advance. You would think so. So they do plan these things well in advance, but I'm going to give him a break on that one. He was not in that job, his successor.

41:48 All right. And his successor was Walt Rostow, R-O-S-T-O-W. He was the national security advisor when the liberty went down. And I remember reading about him. All right. So very important, the Ford Foundation. The Ford Foundation and many of the people that have served as the CEO and on the board of directors, all.

42:13 have ties to intelligence. The Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, all of these philanthropic, the Rockefeller Fund, they have like seven funds, the Rockefellers do. And one of those funds is going to fund every single overthrow of every government. And Ford was right in the middle of all of that. Yeah, and you also find there's all kinds of intermarrying between people who sit on the board of these foundations and would also sit on the board of the

42:43 uh council on foreign relations and later the atlanta council this is the same yes absolutely so so when we talk about our major theory of why we do all these gladio type operations all over the world why do we do it's because our multinational corporations want to exploit the resources that's why they have their people on the boards of the foundations on the on the uh ngos etc they're the ones who give the orders these are the puppet masters

43:11 And go back and trace the corporation's contributions to these very things like the Ford Foundation. So Ford Motor Company will look like they're benevolent in donating to the Rockefeller Fund and the Ford Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation. And then GM will look like they're benevolent because they're donating to X, Y, and Z. And then PepsiCo donates to X, Y, and Z. They're just buying paramilitary capability because those funds are then,

43:40 funding the paramilitary activity to overthrow countries that go against these oligarchs. You're talking about the same Ford company that helped finance both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks? That same one. The same Ford company who was basically providing engines to Russia that were being used by the North Vietnamese against our own troops? That Ford? Yes, that Ford. I'm starting to see a pattern here.

44:11 What did you say? It rhymes? Funding on both sides of every war. All right. It is starting to rhyme. Yes. So also, I wanted to mention that you talked about Bundy's, like his connections to Oliver Winter Holmes. His mother, the Putnam lady that you mentioned, had, she...

44:39 She was listed in this registry that had all of the other social families called the Lowell's, the Cabot's, the Lawrence's. And she was the niece to Harvard President Abbott Lawrence Lowell. Is that how you say his last name? Close enough. So they were also, through her, related to the Brahmins family in Boston.

45:08 Very, very, very connected. You mentioned his connection to the Bush family. And I love the fact, how many times, here's another connection. How many times does that Groton school come up in the childhoods of these people being prepped to go into Yale, then to Harvard?

45:35 I would say in my research, I would put that percentage in the 60 to 70 range of the people that were in the OSS and the initial cadre of the CIA having started as a child in Groton. And I just want to make the tinfoil hat observation that you had people like Epstein's dad teaching at these schools. Just saying. Okay.

46:05 You mean the Epstein who, let's see, whose partner in crime, Ghislaine Maxwell's father, actually had control over 50% of the textbook publishing in the United States? Yeah, that same guy. Yeah. We should do a show. Oh, didn't we do a show on him? Yeah. We have so many shows and so little time. So many more to go because this story, we're just halfway through cracking this egg. Yeah. Okay. So, he,

46:36 as you mentioned, was an intelligence officer in World War II. And the Operation Overlord, if you guys don't know what that is, go look that up. He also was a ghostwriter for Henry Stimson.

47:00 on Henry Stimson's book called On Active Service in War and Peace, which is basically about the same crap. However, it was the same crap prior to the CIA because this was the way we did takeovers before. So in doing so, and the reason why I think that's really, really important is because in sharing all of the history with Stimson, who was intimately involved in

47:28 coups prior to the CIA, he would have been sharing with his ghostwriter all of his tricks of the trade. So that can't go without a huge emphasis with an exclamation point that he is being, not groomed is not the right word, but he's being tutored on how we do this and is going to play a...

47:58 He's not just a member of the CIA. He's the national security advisor orchestrating them. I just can't make that a point enough. Yeah, I think the thing to hammer home with that is he wasn't just a CIA officer. This guy is the chief architect of U.S. escalation in Vietnam. I mean, he's the guy that convinces LBJ, how are you going to sell the Vietnam War to the people? And he goes, tell them it's an extension of the Great Society.

48:27 program and they developed something called the southeast asia development corporation and was it bridges or roads or a dam or something like that and vietnam is supposed to bring all kinds of trade and to basically democratize vietnam and to keep that from this is the guy this is george bunny who came up with all these ideas he sold them to lbj he had lbj's ear as much as anybody did yeah he is also the one that approved the coup of den the president

48:58 That was, was that 60, I'm trying to remember what year that is. 63. Okay, so that's, was that right after JFK? Right before. Right before, okay. He approved it right before. And that's when JFK was starting to push back against escalation, right? He was trying to withdraw from Vietnam. Which is one of the many, probably three or four main theories of why he got assassinated, is he did not want an escalation. Correct.

49:28 And so McGeorge Bundy's there for that. McGeorge Bundy is making sure it gets escalated by planning the coup of the current Vietnam stooges that they had already installed. And McGeorge Bundy was there at the Bay of Pigs, which is how Alan Dulles, which is what got Alan Dulles fired as the director of the CIA. Yes. Yes, he was. So if we were going to make a list, short list of people who could have been involved in the plot to kill JFK, would McGeorge Bundy be on your short list?

49:59 Okay. So I understand that people are wedded to the, you know, Mossad did it or, you know, the Cubans did it or the this did it or the that did it. There is only one organization that goes around the world cooing heads of state. One, the CIA took the lead on all of those. They did it as a disciple of NATO.

50:29 The NATO Coordination Center is the ones that basically through the ACC and the PC, the CPC, coordinated all of this. Because obviously they used assassins from other people's foreign services for plausible deniability. So they interchanged each other's assassins. Well, you have to have a coordination board to do that. And that's what NATO did.

50:56 So you have the guy. So if NATO wants an operation and he wants the CIA's help, the very first call that's going to come from NATO is to the National Security Advisor. Now you know why you can't have the National Security Advisor as Mike Flynn? Because it's not just the CIA that cooperates in this. You've got to have the FBI. You've got to have everybody. And all of those people goes to those 4512 meetings.

51:27 So the National Security Advisor is pivotal to Operation Gladio inside America. And so if you go back to Vietnam, you go back to Cuba, this guy is front and center in all of that.

51:52 in 1964, advised Johnson to dismiss the one general, General Paul Harkins, that wasn't on board with securing poppy fields and gets him replaced. He advised Johnson to replace him with General Wes Moreland, who was a soulless bastard who was responsible.

52:19 for the military side of all of the killing in Vietnam. But Bundy is the one that set that entire thing up. It's funny, right? At that same time, during the Kennedy administration, there's another Harvard professor who was trying to get a job with the Kennedys by the name of Henry Kissinger. And Bundy tells JFK not to trust him because he's a schemer.

52:45 So he's the one that kept Kissinger from working for the Democrat, to work for the Kennedy administration. Well, he definitely had a huge, and here's one of my favorite ones. Harold Wilson, who I would argue is the Donald Trump, right? He was maligned the entire time that he was prime minister in the UK.

53:14 He was set up with the IRA attacks, which was internal Operation Gladio for them as well. And so he doesn't win reelection. And a lot of people thought that there was cheating that went on. Imagine that. So there's an interim president or prime minister, and then he wins reelection, just like Donald Trump just did. And it was he.

53:42 absolutely disagreed with everything about Johnson's Vietnam policy. So he was kind of almost, I don't want to make this because I know the instant gut reaction people have, but he had more of a mindset of a Jimmy Carter. He wanted foreign policy based on non-human rights violations. He didn't want to give money to dictators, which basically the UK and the US had been doing for decades and continue to do so today.

54:12 So Harold Wilson, one of the funniest, not funny in a good way, funny in an evil way, story that I've discovered to date is that during his second term, he's like almost done with his second term, but three years, something like that. He gets a visit from somebody from the United States and he immediately resigns. And do you know who that visit was from?

54:43 The CIA director, George Bush. I didn't know that. I did not know that story. Yes. So, again, McBundy or McBundy, they called him Mac Bundy because of his name being George Bundy. Obviously involved. He testified in the church committee and just, yeah, all around bad guy.

55:13 Wait, I got a quote from his church committee testimony. He says, and listen to the words because this is precise. As far as I ever knew or know now, no one in the White House or at the cabinet level ever gave any approval of any kind to any CIA effort to assassinate anyone. Which means he did. Yeah, that language is very precise. The follow-up question would be, okay, so who did give those orders? Is how you should follow that up.

55:46 He didn't deny that there had been assassination attempts. Or that they were involved. They just didn't get it in order. Just to read it again. No one in the White House or at the cabinet level ever gave any approval of any kind. Yes. They never do because that's the reason why I'm very careful to explain plausible deniability. None of these actions are ever approved. No. There's plausible deniability.

56:15 And he was very specific in saying that the White House or cabinet level, that's never the people that goes to the 4512-2 meetings. It is not at the cabinet level. And the only White House official on that team is that group of four, that last level that's never, ever documented. So you're very safe in saying that nothing ever happened at that level.

56:45 Because there's no documentation that anything ever happened at that level because you're not allowed to record anything. So his precise wording doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just didn't happen at that level because it never happens at that level. That's why I brought the quote to the show. It fully illustrates exactly how the whole mechanism works.

57:14 We're getting close to an hour. You know, I always like to end on a mic drop moment. Do you have anything else you want to talk about, McGeorge? So I'll end you with my mic. I'll give you my mic drop. Okay. So after all this, he actually tried to get a position as the president of the Ford Foundation. The guy said who's the chairman of the Ford Foundation at the time? John J. McCloy. Oh, my gosh. Okay, that's funny.

57:46 We got a couple of Forrest Gumps going on. So we really need to do the full John Jay McCloy when we get done with the Bones. That will be our next show after the Bones show. Yeah, he just pops up every week. Every single week. Talk about a Forrest Gump. I mean, this guy is everywhere, McCloy. Yes. I figured you'd enjoy the ending on that note. That's a perfect way to end this. So just to let everybody know.

58:15 i am traveling today up to support my husband at an electrical conference um of contractors and i am going to try to do the four o'clock show i don't know whether i'll get it done or not um but uh if we don't we will regroup tomorrow um hopefully because there's a lot of events they're having um the uh

58:39 swearing in of the new president of the electrical council for the state of Florida, which my husband's part of. So I do have to do, he does so much to support me. I do have to support him as well. So we may miss a couple of shows, but I am not missing the Paul Williams show and it will be at 1130 tomorrow. So please tune in. It will be session number two. And I am very, very excited about having him back on the show. War hamster.

59:08 What did I say again? What do you have coming up? That's not what I have coming up. I just got done. I had a couple of friends of mine from my old San Diego activist days from a couple of years ago that got a name of Matt Baker. You've probably seen viral videos when he drives out to Maricopa County and gives them what for. Him and Luke Slywaker went up to L.A. and did some citizen journalists to the fires and had them on yesterday.

59:32 So if you want to go to my channel, check that out. Some original footage. And these guys are on the ground. And just absolute patriots and American heroes. I love those guys. So we had that. Most of what I have coming up is getting prepped for more shows with the Colonel and the usual Constitution stuff I do with Douglas V. Gibbs. Awesome.

59:50 Okay, and if you guys are not following Warhamster Brady, please go follow him. Subscribe to his Rumble channel. His constitutional stuff beats anybody hands down. Probably the only person that I would put on that level is Chris Ann Hall. You guys' shows are amazing. So keep up the good work, and we will be back with this series next Thursday at noon. Thanks, everybody. Have a great trip. Yeah, thank you.

Entities here

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Claims made here

Thomas Thatcher member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 3:23

“But she dropped a couple crumbs after watching some of our shows, and I did miss a name last week, and it really needs to be brought up. That name is a guy by the name of Thomas Day Thatcher, T-H-A-C-…”

Thomas Thatcher member_of Simpson, Thatcher, and Bartlett host_asserted ▶ 4:51

“So this guy's pretty well connected. It's all the intermarriage of the Blue Blood families. Check, check, check. So it's interesting. He worked for his father's law firm, which is called Simpson, That…”

Thomas Thatcher member_of American Red Cross host_asserted ▶ 8:25

“Well, first of all, he would become a fellow of the Yale Corporation from 1931 to 49. Yale Corporation is basically Yale's management. So obviously he's pretty high up on the Yale totem pole. My favor…”

Stanley Harris member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 9:52

“I mean, is there a single conflict of the 20th century where the Red Cross doesn't have it? Well, this guy was involved in that early on. Yeah, that's mind-blowing. So he was worth bringing up, I woul…”

Stanley Harris founded Morgan Stanley host_asserted ▶ 11:25

“So in 1935, to restart the securities business, Harold Stanley and Henry Sturgis Morgan, the grandson of J.P. Morgan, founded Morgan Stanley. So pretty well connected, but not quite blue blood. His da…”

Henry Sturgis Morgan founded Morgan Stanley host_asserted ▶ 11:25

Stanley Harris funded U.S. Commission for the Care of European Children host_asserted ▶ 12:32

“So Stanley's got no children of his own. However, he was a huge fundraiser in 1940 for a commission called the U.S. Commission for the Care of European Children. That's where they were bringing childr…”

Eleanor Roosevelt founded U.S. Commission for the Care of European Children host_asserted ▶ 13:05

“It says that he raised the equivalent of $32 million. It was 1.5 back in the day for that organization. Yeah. So he was child trafficking. Whether it's legitimate or not. Yes. I mean, okay. Holy crap.…”

Harvey Hollister Bundy member_of Bush family host_asserted ▶ 17:13

“Same thing with the MKUltra. Not my area of expertise. And people try to get you involved in that all the time. I'm not talking about it. It's not my area of expertise. There's a hundred accounts on X…”

Harvey Hollister Bundy member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 17:44

“I always like to have the year, and I didn't write that one down. He was class of 1909. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Harvey Hollister Bundy, Bonesman, 1909. He was an assistant U.S. Secretary …”

Harvey Hollister Bundy member_of Marshall Plan host_asserted ▶ 18:17

“He was a special assistant to the Secretary of War, Bonesman Stinson, Henry Stimson in World War II. And his role there was the liaison between Stimson and who we've talked about before, Vannevar Bush…”

Harvey Hollister Bundy succeeded John Foster Dulles host_asserted ▶ 21:19

“And he tried to ban African-Americans from living in freshman halls at a time where Harvard's freshmen had to live in the halls. So it was a backdoor ban on African-Americans at Harvard. That's the fa…”

Harvey Hollister Bundy member_of Battelle host_asserted ▶ 22:23

“primarily in the Department of Energy, which has to do with nuclear. Battelle was created in the early 20s and went full scale 1929 into the Manhattan Project. And so this guy is going to be part of t…”

Marshall Plan funded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 23:16

“Most people view the Marshall Plan as an economic plan, but it was also the seed money given to all of these countries to set up their initial Gladio program while they were setting up the drug runnin…”

William P. Bundy member_of Bush family host_asserted ▶ 26:01

“OK, next one. All right. So what he's really famous for, Mr. Harvey Hollister Bundy, is he was the father of two bones men. And we're going to jump forward to 1939 with a gentleman by the name of Will…”

William P. Bundy member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 26:01

William P. Bundy member_of Office of National Estimates host_asserted ▶ 27:33

“And he worked as an analyst. Which is Operation Gladio. Go ahead. I worked for something called the Office of National Estimates. I did some work for Eisenhower. So let me just say, the national estim…”

William P. Bundy member_of Covington & Burling host_asserted ▶ 28:34

“This is a young guy. He's just a lawyer. Obviously, he's a smart guy, but it's all about the connections, how he got there. Go ahead. You got some more? I got a couple quotes. We'll get there in a sec…”

William P. Bundy headed Foreign Affairs host_asserted ▶ 30:55

“Yeah, because lobbying became the best expenditure of capital expenditures for a corporation. Yeah. But as the government got bigger and bigger and the politicians got more and more corrupt, it made a…”

William P. Bundy member_of CFR host_asserted ▶ 31:29

“What's Foreign Affairs? That's the Journal of the Council for Relations. So he's their spokesman. And he would decline an offer from David Rockefeller, who's the chairman of the CFR, to have Bundy bec…”

David Rockefeller appointed William P. Bundy book_quoted ▶ 31:29

Frank Wisner headed Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 32:59

“was the real mental center behind the engine room of the Marshall plant, which we were just talking about. And it says basically for Frank Wisner, and who's that? That's the guy that was running the c…”

Frank Wisner financed_via Marshall Plan book_quoted ▶ 33:23

“The counterpart funds seem to be a godsend. So as Wisner is setting up Gladio, he's using the Marshall Plan funds to do it. So I just wanted to bring that connection out. One other one is who we just …”

William P. Bundy member_of Harvard University host_asserted ▶ 34:19

“Alger Hiss was one of the major targets of McCarthy. Hiss and Bundy both taught at Harvard at the same time. That's an affiliate there. Hiss had previously served as the Carnegie president before one …”

Richard Nixon covered_up William P. Bundy host_asserted ▶ 34:19

Alger Hiss member_of Harvard University host_asserted ▶ 34:19

Alger Hiss headed Carnegie Endowment for International Peace host_asserted ▶ 34:19

Allen Dulles covered_up Joseph McCarthy host_asserted ▶ 34:49

“Tight little circle there. Another fun historical side note is everyone knows that the McCarthy quote-unquote witch hunt got stopped. He's going after communists. The person who sabotaged that and bas…”

Allen Dulles spied_on United States host_asserted ▶ 35:19

“Well, but let me just hold up here. If you actually started searching out the actual communist, you couldn't have fake ones. Alan Dulles marketed in fake ones, not real ones. If McCarthy would have ke…”

McGeorge Bundy member_of Bush family host_asserted ▶ 35:53

“I've never taken that thought all the way down that trail. Here, wait a minute. This is my Gladio glasses. All right. Well, that's all I've got on Bill Bundy. All right. Let's move on. He's got a brot…”

William P. Bundy headed Ford Foundation host_asserted ▶ 36:30

“she's got bundy you know she can just from memory she'd go for hours on mcgeorge bundy so he would be the national security advisor for both jfk and lbj from 1961 to 66 and what's his brother doing at…”

McGeorge Bundy appointed John F. Kennedy host_asserted ▶ 36:30

McGeorge Bundy appointed Lyndon B. Johnson host_asserted ▶ 36:30

McGeorge Bundy member_of CFR host_asserted ▶ 37:01

“Basically, I go to the past. He selected this Council of Foreign Relations in 1949 at the age of 29 years old. He would then work on implementing the Marshall Plan. This guy's involved in Bay of Pigs,…”

McGeorge Bundy member_of Marshall Plan host_asserted ▶ 37:01

McGeorge Bundy member_of Bay of Pigs host_asserted ▶ 37:01

McGeorge Bundy member_of Operation Overlord host_asserted ▶ 37:01

McGeorge Bundy headed Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 38:27

“operation gladio overlord for both jfk administration and then follow on lbj everything that happened the committee that we just reviewed guys the 5412 in this book here the president's secret wars th…”

Nelson Rockefeller headed Committee of 40 host_asserted ▶ 38:55

“um for anything that was deemed communist originally and then communist and terrorism after that when it was amended so that's where that's where the 303 committee came out of right yes but it wasn't …”

Committee of 40 ordered_assassination_of USS Liberty incident host_asserted ▶ 40:47

“Well, I'll give you a great example of how zero accountability came out of there. One of the two things that came out of that Committee of 303 was, of course, that they had the submarines outside of t…”

Walt Rostow succeeded McGeorge Bundy host_asserted ▶ 41:48

“All right. And his successor was Walt Rostow, R-O-S-T-O-W. He was the national security advisor when the liberty went down. And I remember reading about him. All right. So very important, the Ford Fou…”

Ford Foundation funded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 42:13

“have ties to intelligence. The Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Foundation, all of these philanthropic, the Rockefeller Fund, they have like seven funds, the Rockefellers do. And one of those funds is go…”

Ford Motor Company funded Ford Foundation host_asserted ▶ 43:11

“And go back and trace the corporation's contributions to these very things like the Ford Foundation. So Ford Motor Company will look like they're benevolent in donating to the Rockefeller Fund and the…”

Ford Motor Company supplied_arms_to Soviet Union host_asserted ▶ 43:40

“funding the paramilitary activity to overthrow countries that go against these oligarchs. You're talking about the same Ford company that helped finance both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks? That same on…”

Ford Motor Company funded West Germany host_asserted ▶ 43:40

William P. Bundy member_of Putnam family host_asserted ▶ 44:11

“What did you say? It rhymes? Funding on both sides of every war. All right. It is starting to rhyme. Yes. So also, I wanted to mention that you talked about Bundy's, like his connections to Oliver Win…”

William P. Bundy member_of Lowell family host_asserted ▶ 44:39

“She was listed in this registry that had all of the other social families called the Lowell's, the Cabot's, the Lawrence's. And she was the niece to Harvard President Abbott Lawrence Lowell. Is that h…”

McGeorge Bundy member_of Groton School host_asserted ▶ 45:08

“Very, very, very connected. You mentioned his connection to the Bush family. And I love the fact, how many times, here's another connection. How many times does that Groton school come up in the child…”

McGeorge Bundy member_of Yale University host_asserted ▶ 45:08

McGeorge Bundy member_of Harvard University host_asserted ▶ 45:08

McGeorge Bundy member_of Henry Stimson host_asserted ▶ 47:00

“on Henry Stimson's book called On Active Service in War and Peace, which is basically about the same crap. However, it was the same crap prior to the CIA because this was the way we did takeovers befo…”

McGeorge Bundy headed Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 47:58

“He's not just a member of the CIA. He's the national security advisor orchestrating them. I just can't make that a point enough. Yeah, I think the thing to hammer home with that is he wasn't just a CI…”

McGeorge Bundy ordered_assassination_of Coup against Ngo Dinh Diem host_asserted ▶ 48:27

“program and they developed something called the southeast asia development corporation and was it bridges or roads or a dam or something like that and vietnam is supposed to bring all kinds of trade a…”

McGeorge Bundy member_of Bay of Pigs host_asserted ▶ 49:28

“And so McGeorge Bundy's there for that. McGeorge Bundy is making sure it gets escalated by planning the coup of the current Vietnam stooges that they had already installed. And McGeorge Bundy was ther…”

Central Intelligence Agency carried_out_attack John F. Kennedy host_asserted ▶ 49:59

“Okay. So I understand that people are wedded to the, you know, Mossad did it or, you know, the Cubans did it or the this did it or the that did it. There is only one organization that goes around the …”

NATO headed Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 50:29

“The NATO Coordination Center is the ones that basically through the ACC and the PC, the CPC, coordinated all of this. Because obviously they used assassins from other people's foreign services for pla…”

McGeorge Bundy removed_from_power Paul Harkins host_asserted ▶ 51:52

“in 1964, advised Johnson to dismiss the one general, General Paul Harkins, that wasn't on board with securing poppy fields and gets him replaced. He advised Johnson to replace him with General Wes Mor…”

McGeorge Bundy appointed William Westmoreland host_asserted ▶ 51:52

McGeorge Bundy covered_up Henry Kissinger host_asserted ▶ 52:19

“for the military side of all of the killing in Vietnam. But Bundy is the one that set that entire thing up. It's funny, right? At that same time, during the Kennedy administration, there's another Har…”

Operation Gladio carried_out_attack Harold Wilson host_asserted ▶ 53:14

“He was set up with the IRA attacks, which was internal Operation Gladio for them as well. And so he doesn't win reelection. And a lot of people thought that there was cheating that went on. Imagine th…”

George H.W. Bush covered_up Harold Wilson host_asserted ▶ 54:12

“So Harold Wilson, one of the funniest, not funny in a good way, funny in an evil way, story that I've discovered to date is that during his second term, he's like almost done with his second term, but…”

McGeorge Bundy covered_up Central Intelligence Agency documented ▶ 55:13

“Wait, I got a quote from his church committee testimony. He says, and listen to the words because this is precise. As far as I ever knew or know now, no one in the White House or at the cabinet level …”

McGeorge Bundy appointed Ford Foundation host_asserted ▶ 57:14

“We're getting close to an hour. You know, I always like to end on a mic drop moment. Do you have anything else you want to talk about, McGeorge? So I'll end you with my mic. I'll give you my mic drop.…”

John J. McCloy headed Ford Foundation host_asserted ▶ 57:14