The Colonel’s Corner The Medusa Files Part 13

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0:00 I have to laugh every time I turn this computer on. I didn't bring my normal computer. I brought my backup by accident. It says that I'm live, but instead of having a normal time, it has two days and 20 hours and counting down instead of the normal time. I have no idea what's going on with it. You're live on Rumble. I am.

0:30 Okay. Well, I couldn't even get that to work yesterday. I had to go in through some backdoor weird way to try to get it to work. So what the heck? All right. We're going to go ahead and get started. Always something. All right. So we are up to talking about the

1:14 Well, where we left off was kind of the tell end of the Iran, all of that stuff that was going on. But I did want to bring one last thing before we move on to part six up because it goes along with some of the other stuff that's being talked about. And it had to do with,

1:44 a kind of a little known story. You'll remember it, but it doesn't get talked about too often. And it's obviously after the overthrow of the Shah. And it said that there were a lot of things, obviously chaos going on in Iran. It says then in, they're talking around 1983 timeframe.

2:17 We're already doing the missile cells and all that stuff that we've talked about. It says, then in March of the following year, which would make it about 1984, CIA Station Chief William Buckley was kidnapped outside of his Bayry apartment, i.e. in Lebanon, and was held with several other hostages by the Iranian-backed terrorist group.

2:47 the Islamic holy war called Islamic Jihad. And again, what's interesting to me is there's always the accusation that it's Iranian backed when we know that the Ayatollah had been given safe haven in France. So who was really backing them? We don't know.

3:20 Because that's an assertion and I've never seen any actual evidence. And these are the types of things now that I know that you have to question. Because these assertions just take on a life of their own. The U.S. government, in a complete turnaround from the token way the Vietnam POW MIA situation was handled, went into all types of...

3:51 discussions about how to free Buckley and a handful of international hostages, which again is very weird because as the author points out, it's the exact opposite of what we had been doing in the past. We just walked away. But of course, this is a CIA guy. And again, Lebanon had been under the control.

4:23 of Western influences throughout this entire time. So you have to question, they still are today, as I've pointed out with that company called Torchlight. They basically own the entire Lebanese government. He goes on to say, despite Reagan's public stance on refusing to deal with terrorists, secret moves began immediately to bargain with the terrorists.

4:53 At least that's what we're told. Because, see, the justification for the sale of those missiles to the general public was that it was the only way to free the hostages. So was that just a cover story? I don't know. The price of freedom would be arms and military equipment needed to keep Saddam Hussein of neighboring Iraq from invading Iran during the country's post-revolution reorganization.

5:25 But there was an official U.S. embargo on military equipment sales to Iran. We know that they didn't care about that. So a means had to be found by the secret planners to skirt the embargo, remain anonymous from all of those that were dealing with this, and still recover the hostages. This means was found in Israel, who agreed to serve as a middleman.

5:55 was willing to provide the arms for hostages that were delivered to Iran in 1985 in exchange for sales of some of the latest American weapon systems. For the next several months, Israel managed to ship some weapon systems into Iran. How did they do that? I thought they were the mortal enemies. But by mid-1986, the National Security Council had established its own clandestine smuggling routes.

6:28 and cut Israel out. The architects of this was Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North and Richard Secord. By this time, Buckley had succumbed to the stress of incarceration and torture and had died. Still, there were no other hostages to be rescued, and beyond that, the CIA was concerned that Buckley may have given his captors intelligence information, i.e., who were agents in the Middle East.

6:58 Three direct armed shipments were sent to Iran from the U.S. to serve as payments towards the release of hostages. The first shipment went out in February of 1986. This is under the new arrangement because we'd already been doing it. Followed by another one in May, there was an additional shipment by North and Robert McFarlane, who was the National Security Advisor at the time.

7:32 who held a bargaining session with Iranian leaders for several days. The last known shipment that we know of happened in October of 1986, after which hostage David Jacobson was released. It becomes obvious at this point that the U.S. received very little in return for a massive amount of effort.

8:07 and skimmed the profits off of the Iranian illegal arms deals to pay for some of the cost of the Contra operation. The remaining hostages were not to see freedom until 1991 at the end of George Bush's term. That's crazy. Okay, we move on to part six, which...

8:43 is chapter 26, and there's one statement that I want to read. He puts these little statements at the beginning of each chapter. It says, quote, I told them, the FBI, that it was definitely a flare-type rocket heading towards the aircraft, and then it exploded. It was then suggested that we did not see anything at all.

9:17 And that we were going along with what other people said they saw. Just for the excitement of it. I told them, no way. I know what I saw. Other men in suits arrived later. And they gave us some money and told us never to mention anything to anyone about being witnesses to the crash again. Unquote. That was an anonymous letter sent to a California newspaper about TWA 8.

9:46 The book goes on, starting in chapter 26, to talk about September 1st, 1983, a Boeing 747 carrying 269 passengers flew over the Western Pacific. Its destination was Seoul, the capital of South Korea. It never arrived. Unknown to the crew, the airliner had strayed off course for some reason.

10:21 The sophisticated primary and secondary navigation systems failed to alert the crew that they had altered the course line and were far to the west of where they should have been and at that very moment had put themselves dangerously close to the Kamchatka Peninsula over the Soviet Union. Had they received an accurate plot?

10:49 they would have been alarmed to know that they were well within the Soviet air defense zone. And the Russians took the presence of intruders seriously. Only five years before, another jetliner belonging to the same company, Korean Airlines, had strayed into Soviet airspace and had been intercepted. On that occasion, the Soviet interceptor pilot had twice told Soviet ground controllers,

11:19 that he had identified the intruder and that it was a civilian airliner, even identifying the company and type of Boeing 707 KAL markings. Both times, he was told to proceed to shoot it down. And both times, he refused to do so. However, after the third order and probably realizing the dire personal consequences of disobeying a direct command, he fired a missile.

11:46 which killed two passengers and disabled the aircraft. The Korean crew fought desperately to save their ship and miraculously managed to land the crippled aircraft on a frozen Soviet lake. The passengers were released two days later, but the Soviets kept the 707. KAL flight 007 was not to be that lucky. Besides the air and navigation, something else was occurring.

12:19 For like the fated 707, they too were being tracked by Soviet air defense radar and was soon joined by Russian interceptors. The Soviet radar operators had already spent the night tracking the American and American Air Force Boeing KC-135C, four-engine 707 derivative, especially equipped with sophisticated radar and electronics for recon and spy work.

12:49 and were completely alert when the new blip of the KAL civilian aircraft 007 appeared on their screen. Only this time, instead of resuming the routine race track oval flight pattern just outside their air defense zone, as the KC-135 had done, the new target continued southwest at an angle that would place it right over the Soviet Union.

13:18 The air defense officer at the radar site made a quick decision. He scrambled their alert fighters. Within minutes, the Soviet interceptor pilots manned their aircraft, rolled onto the runway, and took off. Each pilot came up on the radar in turn and was given coordinates. But for some reason, the radar vectors were faulty.

13:44 For no matter how hard the frustrated controllers tried, they could not seem to vector their flight to a point of visual contact with the intruder. In the end, after searching until they were too low on fuel to continue, the MiG flight returned to base. Incredibly, the supersonic fighters even had the aid of sophisticated ground defense radar network, which was at the time suffering problems similar to the 007 navigation system.

14:14 and had not come within 50 miles of the civilian airliner. KAL 007, still not realizing how close they were getting to the Siberian coastline, continued on. Then, as another radar site began to pick it up, another flight was ordered into the air. This time, it came from an air defense station much further south.

14:41 who scrambled four aging Su-15 interceptors, which were not equipped with sensitive electronic systems like those of the MiGs. In the cockpit was, I'm not even going to try to say his name, a Lieutenant Colonel Soviet pilot. The Korean airliner flying straight and level at an airspeed somewhat below 500 miles per hour had managed to fly completely across.

15:11 the Soviet peninsula, the 500-mile expanse of the Sea of Oktaks, north of the Karel Islands, and was approaching Sakhalin Island, just north of Japan, and had managed to do so completely unmolested, which infuriated the Soviet commanders. The southern radar operators

15:39 were more successful than their northern counterparts in tracking the aircraft and vectoring their interceptors. As they were doing so, for some reason, Soviet commanders was changing the radar blip identification from non-Soviet aircraft to American RC-135. As the flight of four Su-15s converged on the 747, General Ivan Teryak,

16:10 commander of the Soviet Far East Military District, and his superior, who was the commander of the Far East Theater of Operations, decided that they should maneuver his flight closer to the target for visual identification. Fearful that pilots might defect, as had Lieutenant Victor Balenko, who had flown to Japan in a shiny new MiG-25 eight years before.

16:41 The interceptor flight tanks were only filled with enough fuel for local operations. They would not have much time to loiter once contact was made. And a decision concerning what course of action would come next would have to be instant. At 6.15 a.m., they had received orders to close with the intruder and identify it. But before he could do so, he was ordered to kill the intruder.

17:11 405 crew members aboard the American KC-135 who had been monitoring the Soviet activities heard this order repeated no less than five times. KAL-007, which had unknowingly managed to evade the latest and most capable MiG fighters, was now about to leave Soviet airspace after flying completely across the island.

17:39 Within a few minutes, the jumbo jet would reenter international airspace and escape. Unfortunately, that wasn't going to be allowed to happen. Now, what's interesting about what I just read is the fact that, because when we've come across this story before, I have not read that the KC-135 guys are still in the local area. And let me explain something. In the other books, they did a better job of explaining.

18:08 Over a period of a very long time, repeatedly, KC-135s, well, RC-135s, excuse me, not KC. KC-135s are the tankers. RC-135s are the reconnaissance guys. They're the spy ones. They have all kinds of electronic equipment on them. And what they would do is they would fly along the coast as closely as they could to get the Soviet air defense to light up so they could

18:39 document where all of the air defense locations were. They were basically playing cat and mouse daily. And there's flights going out there doing this repeatedly over and over and over again, like teasing them, getting up. And sometimes they actually flew into the Soviet just to see if they would scramble aircraft. This was a cat and mouse game that went on daily in that area for years.

19:11 We knew what we were doing. We knew that we were making the Soviet Union very sensitive to any aircraft that got near their boundaries. They didn't care. They just kept doing it. And for some reason, unless you're actually going to invade the Soviet Union, which we were never going to do, why would you do that? Why would you taunt the Soviet Union daily?

19:40 for years but they did and what they're saying now is there was an RC-135 up during this incident and that they're listening to the Soviets talk about and at no time do they call anyone at NORAD or anywhere else and says hey there's an American civilian airline that's

20:13 drastically off course and putting themselves in jeopardy. None, no communication at all to warn these pilots. In the other books, they had also said that the navigational equipment can be messed with because what was happening is consistently as they began to veer off.

20:42 the approved course it was such a consistent manner that it would lend itself to it being messed with it wasn't a noticeable um vectoring off course like something broke and it just stopped functioning properly for whatever that's worth all right at 6 23

21:14 The four Su-15s fell into trail behind the unsuspecting 747. One minute later, the pilot reacting to the command to destroy the aircraft lit his afterburners and activated his missile system, which consisted of two air-to-air missiles. Almost immediately, his missile seekers locked on to the heat source of the 747 engines and his armament panel began to flash.

21:45 He reported back to the ground station that he had locked on and was prepared to launch his missiles. The target was now only five kilometers distance, well within range of his aircraft. In his own words later, he stated, suddenly in my earphone, I hear this, abort destruction, match altitude with the target and force it to land. I was already approaching the intruder from below.

22:15 I matched speed and started to flash him, but he did not respond. Give him some warning burst. I heard from the ground. I fired four bursts, firing off more than 200 rounds. But what was the sense of that? I had armor-piercing rounds, not incendiary tracers, and it was hardly like that anyone would see them.

22:47 For those of you who don't know, the tracers light up so you can actually see it. He had actual bullets. You can't see bullets flying in the air at 500 miles an hour. There's no way the crew would have seen that. The Soviet pilot was behind and below. In that statement, the pilot then, according to the author, says something that he doesn't believe is true.

23:21 First, he states that his interceptor could not reduce speed below 400 miles an hour and that he would be forced to overshoot or stall out. That's not true. To keep from overshooting, he had two choices. First, he could pull back on the throttles, drop a few degrees of flap, even drop his landing gear and go into a slow flight configuration. Obviously, the SU-15

23:48 could slow to a much lower speed considering that it lands at 100 knots. The second choice would be to reduce his forward progress by maneuvering. Simply put, he could have just like flown S circles or did a circle or whatever. He didn't have to keep going straight is the bottom line. The second issue concerns his use of gunfire.

24:21 The SU-15 does not have an external gun. Instead, it's armed. If armed in advance, it is capable of mounting two gun pods. Each pod carries two cannons, not like strafing. Because of maneuverability restrictions concerning external loads, the two gun pods are mounted in the belly, pylons in the center of the fuselage.

24:54 External gun pods are seldom carried. Instead, the interceptors rely on two surface air-to-air missiles they can employ from a greater range. By Soviet doctrine, the gun pods were only carried in the off chance that a fighter might get into a close air dogfight. Even at that, they were designed for straight line speed to head off intruding bombers and not for maneuverability.

25:23 It therefore had to rely on a standoff distance and missile capability to be a lethal aircraft. The pilot chose to maneuver his aircraft to a vertical climb turn behind the KAL 007 to preclude overshooting the slowing target. This is a quote. I managed to make a sharp turn and now above and running on to him. But then I had a thought. I dropped 2,000 feet.

25:55 He doesn't say feet or meters. The Soviet aircraft altimeters are marked in meters, which would have dropped him below 6,500 feet. I armed my missiles and brought the nose down sharply. It worked. I saw that I had locked on. The first missile was fired when the distance between us was about five kilometers. Only now I could really see the intruder. It was a larger aircraft.

26:27 The trouble for all Soviet pilots is that we do not study civilian aircraft belonging to foreign countries. I knew all of the military aircraft, all the reconnaissance aircrafts, but this was not one of them. This last statement is also technically not true. The Soviet military encyclopedia contained both civilian and commercial aircraft, and they were responsible for knowing all of them.

26:58 The 747 is represented and its distinctive well type shape is quite unique. As a matter of fact, what's even more bullshit is C5s are basically 747s. So there's no way he didn't know it. I mean, he could have said, hey, I thought it was a C5. But there's no way that he could have not known what.

27:27 A 747 was. None. He definitely knew it was not a KC-135 or an RC-135. They're much smaller. But the biggest problem with this story is that his timeline of events. For he was supposedly performing these time-consuming maneuvers. The RC-135 radio operators were monitoring the Soviet radio conversations. And Japanese air traffic controllers.

27:59 And radar operators were observing the progress of the KAL 007. They had just given the KAL pilots permission to climb to 35,000 feet, which might explain why he thought the aircraft was slowing down in an attempt to evade him. It was actually climbing to a higher flight level, which caused it to slow in speed relative to the pursuers.

28:28 Why did the Japanese controllers at this point not tell them they were off course? Why didn't they, if they can see them on a radar, why didn't they tell them there were over Soviet airspace? Everything about this story is bizarre. The time span between the general's order at 615 for him to maneuver for a closer check.

29:02 And the receipt of the final command, kill the intruder, at 6.25 was 10 minutes. At 6.26, he said he fired two missiles simultaneously. And according to him, they struck the 747, one near the tail, and the other one took off the left wing. This would not be true either.

29:35 70 right, position-wise, of the plane as he reported to ground controllers. The heat-seeking missiles would have honed in on the engine, not the aircraft. And the closest to him would have been the number four engine. But contrary to later reports, the missile did not cause the 747 to explode in flight, even though the fighter pilot

30:07 transmitted at 626 that the target is destroyed. The Tokyo air traffic controllers reported that one minute later, he picked up a broken radio transmission from the KAL 007. Tokyo, Korea Air 007, 15,000 holding with rapid decompression, descending to 1,000, 1,000, sorry, 10,000.

30:36 Tokyo Radio acknowledged the KAL-007 but did not advise them that they were off course because they were probably not in range of the Tokyo radar. This is exactly what the emergency protocol calls for in such an incident. To the 747 pilots, the explosion of a missile must have sounded like a rupture in the pressure hull of the aircraft and probably shrapnel from the explosion warhead.

31:07 of the missile, which honed in on the tailpipe of one of the engines, had indeed pierced the cabin of the airliner. If this occurred, yellow oxygen mass would have automatically deployed overhead above the passenger seats, and the sudden decompression in the cabin would have been felt throughout the aircraft. The pilots, realizing that there is only sufficient oxygen,

31:31 to sustain life below 12,500 feet would immediately begin an emergency descent. Had the 747 exploded, as the official version later recounted, it would have struck the surface of the ocean in less than three minutes. This didn't happen. The Japanese controllers knew that the Korean crew continued to maintain control of the Boeing aircraft for at least...

32:01 12 minutes. At 6.32, KAL 007 descended to flight level 35,000 feet to 16,400 feet. This was confirmed on Japanese radar. Then after a couple of minutes, the big jet did another descent. It appears that the crew could not maintain altitude and was fighting valiantly to save the ship.

32:29 It's not known if there was insufficient power in the remaining engines to maintain altitude or if another engine had failed due to the fuel lines being severed. Or possibly there were further complications from being hit. 27 minutes after he fired his missiles, another Russian pilot reported that he was making reference point circles over the wreckage and that rescue operations were underway.

32:59 If KAL 007 had exploded, as the official reports stated the next day, then why would a Soviet search plane bother to make circles over the wreckage and rescue operations initiated? What was there to rescue? It blew up in the middle of the air at 35,000 feet.

33:29 The later Soviet press releases explained that Russian fighter pilots actually reported, I don't see it. No, I don't see it. He doesn't see anything in the area. I just looked. None of the pilot that shot the missiles, comrades, could find the wreckage of his quote-unquote kill where it was supposed to be. These statements must be compared to the burning wreckage.

33:58 of TWA 800, which crashed into the Atlantic near New York on 17 July 1996. The fuel from this incident burned for hours, marking the location of the main wreckage site. Within two hours of the shootdown, Soviet defense stations in Sakhalin were in communication with Moscow.

34:27 The information they relayed was not good. They had mistakenly downed a civilian airliner and some of the passengers were American. How could anyone know that any of the passengers were American? That's weird. Within hours, they knew that there were Americans on it. Had they discovered floating bodies that still had... Oh, oh, I know. It's the passports. Holy crap. It's the passports. They're indestructible. They must have...

35:00 picked up all the passports. According to both Soviet and Western press releases, no bodies were ever recovered. They have passports though. I'm just joking about passports. They also said that no wreckage was ever found. That's improbable. As in every example of an air disaster over water, and in most instances of ship sinking, bodies surface and are recovered.

35:34 One case in point is the tragic shoot down of Iranian Airbus over the Persian Gulf by an American missile shot from the USS Vincennes. Dozens of bodies floated to the surface from the ruptured cabin and were photographed by the world floating in clusters on the sea. Though the colder water in the Sea of Japan would delay such an occurrence due to

36:06 the temperature preservation of flesh, eventually the bodies would bloat and rise to the surface. With the exception of a few body parts that allegedly drifted ashore in Japan, 250 miles away, which could not be identified as having originated aboard the fated flight, no bodies ever surfaced. Four hours after the shoot down, Marshal Agarkov could see

36:37 a negative international incident rapidly deteriorating into world relations disaster. The only way to make that might be savaged would be a world-class deception created by the layers of lies. Even as a vast armada of Soviet vessels converged in the area, the pilot began formulating a story of intrigue and espionage.

37:06 According to the rapidly fabricated version of events, the Korean airliner had joined up with an RC-135, which had already probed the Soviet airspace on several occasions that night, and then had flown on to cross over the Soviet airspace. It was obviously on a spy mission, they said, probably had secret cameras and eavesdropping devices.

37:36 The Russians were left with no choice but to shoot it down. The Americans, of course, were to blame. It was then who placed the 269 innocent passengers at risk for their own reasons. The Americans, by their deceitful actions, the Soviets said, had murdered those people and tried to blame it on the Russians. Moscow had a choice. The government could do one of two things. Buy the tail and reinforce it.

38:05 supporting the Far East Defense Command in the process or place the blame on an overzealous officer and punish them accordingly. This latter choice would have been the easiest. There could be an investigation, a finding, a tragic mistake having been made, blame fixed on the lowest ranking officer who would be pegged as responsible, an apology issued, and life would go on. But instead,

38:33 they went for the disinformation campaign. The end result is that the world press swallowed the Soviet version and even came up with other reinforcing stories that the Korean 747 had indeed been a CIA spy mission. The Washington Post headlined a six-column article titled Article in British Link 3 Faded KAL Flight to

39:03 intelligence mission and let me just say if everything else wasn't already weird about this the fact that the mainstream press carried this obviously bogus story should make everybody question what really happened as normally these people love to throw spin on the soviet union

39:33 But for some reason, they were told to go with the story because they don't do this on their own. The piece referred to originally appeared in the British Defense Attaché magazine. But when the author of the article who claimed the KAL 007 was engaged in espionage was finally tracked down, it was discovered that he was a London advertising agent with no technical expertise.

40:05 and no remarkable or inside knowledge of the event. In other words, it was handed to him to put his name on, and he did so. Then in 1984, a Yale graduate student by the name of David Pearson wrote an article for The Nation that stated the U.S. government must also be held accountable for the deaths of the passengers aboard KAL 007 because it seemed probable the Soviet radar system were jammed at least

40:36 on the original peninsula that the aircraft flew over, and perhaps over the island where the aircraft was shot down. If this were true, the Russians would have jumped on it to reinforce their disinformation. And beyond this, if the radar was indeed jammed, then that pilot's flight would have never found KAL 007. Now, again.

41:05 They're talking apples and oranges here. The original encounter from the northern sector had different radar systems. It is possible we were jamming them, which is why they weren't working properly and they never made contact with the airline. That is quite possible because the RC-135 can certainly do that. That is very possible. Then the KAL aircraft continues to fly.

41:36 And the Southern group that was cleared to intercept them had much older radar systems that perhaps was not jammable, at least with the technology that the RC-135 had, if that in fact is what happened. And I'm not saying it is, but that's a very distinct possibility.

42:05 In the end, even President Reagan denounced the Soviets as murderers and called for an international investigation. The issue faded into history and was all but forgotten. One of the generals were promoted to head of all Soviet air defense. One of the other generals involved was promoted to deputy minister of defense. And one of those involved.

42:34 in the actual shoot down, became the personal military advisor to Mikhail Gorbachev, which is really suspect. The actual pilot that shot the missile was not so lucky. It seems that in the Russian military, as in other forces, the proverbial shit rolls downhill after being told by his commander that he had shot down a foreigner.

43:04 to make another hole in your shoulder boards for a new star, he was instead ostracized. After the arrival of the investigating committee, he was, in his own words, suddenly a son of a bitch. Those are his words. During the investigation, which ironically was reported after the fall of the Soviet Union by the official government newspaper, he made a startling statement.

43:35 In the grand reckoning, he said, I have no doubt that we were right. A foreign aircraft was in our airspace for two and a half hours. And during that time, it covered a distance of more than 2,000 kilometers. All the air traffic control services of foreign states said not a word, remained silent. What order can you give in such a situation? Sit on your hands? Again, to his point.

44:05 These things are tracked all over the world. There were more than one country that knew all of this was going on because they all have radars. Then came out a 17 part expose of the Soviet coverup surrounding the KAL 007, which ran between December 21st, 1990 and February 6th, 1991. The series reported on efforts to discover the actual truth regarding the shoot down and surprisingly was considered.

44:39 the most accurate and in-depth version of the incident ever published. According to this report, which was done by the Soviets post, I guess we should say by the Russians, because it's post fall of the Soviet Union. The wreckage of KAL 007 was found almost immediately and divers were sent down to examine it. Three flight recorders were found and recovered and were quickly rushed off to Moscow, but not one body was found.

45:10 According to a Soviet diver who had examined the wreck, the main thing was not what we had seen, but what we had not seen. The divers found practically no human bodies or remains. What had became of the 269 passengers and nine crew members. If the bodies did not surface and they were not found in the wreckage, then they have.

45:39 They had to have been rescued or recovered immediately after the crash. If this is so, then the survivors or their bodies were transported either to the island or somewhere else. There were several small towns around that area. Where did the bodies go? From any of these places, it would be reasonable to assume that there would have been quickly transshipped to a bigger area.

46:12 Because they were very small villages. And certainly somebody in those villages would have noticed all of the traffic around that area if there's a massive effort to recover bodies. It should be remembered that it was in that area that the Soviets held the war tribunals for the Japanese captured after World War II.

46:38 And served as a primary destination for American POWs taken in Korea. And some of those received from Vietnam. That's the same city is what he's talking about. That was near where that aircraft was shot down. But why would the Soviets care about incarcerating or eliminating innocent civilians? Was it because they were witnesses to the truth?

47:03 That they could testify that they had been ambushed and that there was no warning, no gunshots across the nose, no blinking lights, nothing? Hardly. It was more likely that they were victims of a far greater, darker plot. Only one small mention was ever made in the American press of the importance of one of the passengers who perished on 007. Buried in the accounts is the fact that U.S. Congressman Larry McDonald of Georgia was aboard.

47:33 that aircraft. What is not pointed out is that Congressman McDonald was involved in a major investigation of the World Banking Cartel, the Council of Foreign Relations, the Federal Reserve Board, and other significant entities that were interrelated. McDonald was the most dedicated anti-communist on Capitol Hill, and the press had noted that from the time he took his oath of office,

48:02 In 1975, until the moment of the shoot down, Congressman McDonald had systematically carried out a campaign against the Soviet communists of a sort which no other US elected official had ever done. In the book, The Day of the Cobra, author Jeffrey St. John writes, Congressman Lawrence McDonald.

48:25 had spent his entire career warning against the use of terrorism as an instrument of Soviet policy, particularly the use of threat of nuclear war by the Kremlin as a weapon to paralyze the U.S. But McDonald had gone beyond fighting simple Soviet communism. He had discovered a spider web of hidden corridors that linked power brokers in Moscow with those in New York and Washington.

48:54 This in turn made him a threat to the establishment international banking cabal. This put him at crossroads with the Council on Foreign Relations and its international brethren of the New World Order and one world government proponents. In the Rockefeller Files author Gary Allen, McDonald wrote the foreword.

49:17 and riled against the drive of the Rockefellers and their allies to create one world government, combining super capitalism and communism in the same tent. Oh my gosh, isn't that the stuff we talk about every day? They're in collusion with each other. McDonald went on to establish his Western Goals Foundation, whose purpose was to rebuild and strengthen the political, economic, and social structure of the United States and Western civilization.

49:46 so as to make any merger with totalitarian governments impossible. It is probable that with his discovery of the shadow world of international finance and power brokers and their goal of globalism and control of international relationships that he had gone too far. It is unlikely that the whole truth will ever be known, but one question will remain. Was KAL007 misdirected over the island so that an ambush of

50:15 Dr. Lawrence McDonald could be accomplished. Great question. Great question. This chapter goes on for quite a bit, so we're going to break there. We'll continue with this story tomorrow. I'm reminded of the Fabian Society. Yeah. Go ahead, Bridget. I agree with Major Sarge from over on Rumble that it's just poking the bear. Poking the bear.

50:52 You know? I'm surprised, though, about, like you were saying in the article, that it was written. Were they, in the article, were they actually telling the truth? About what? About the attack and what happened to the helicopter. The CIA was involved, or not helicopter, plane, etc. I don't know what you're asking. Did a news reporter actually tell the truth?

51:29 About what? About the scandal with the airplane. The article that came out from the Soviet Union or Russia, post-Soviet Union, was the most complete one. The other article, that's what I'm saying. We've talked about like four different articles in this thing. I didn't know which one you were talking about. Sorry. Yeah, that's the one. I guess that's what I was saying. The latest one was the most accurate one. Okay. Yes.

52:02 Okay, I gotcha. Yeah, and that didn't come out of the Western press. That came out of Russia post-Soviet Union collapse. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, and I find it interesting since this is... We've talked about this because we found this same material in several different books that we've...

52:37 covered. But I've never heard, no one's mentioned what this guy found, this Russian article. This is the first that I've ever seen of this Russian article. And it is interesting to note that in most of the press, when we were doing the research before on this,

53:05 And I was looking for different articles that were written at the time. Almost no one talked about the fact that the congressman was on that flight. And what's even more important, if you remember the one book we did, there was a whole gaggle of them going. McDonald, they met in Alaska. That's where the aircraft took off from.

53:30 The others, instead of leaving D.C. and going to Alaska and then going to Korea, they unexpectedly had to go to California. And then they made their flight arrangements from California to Alaska to Korea, which put them on an aircraft that was either just behind or just ahead of Larry McDonald's aircraft.

53:59 Larry McDonald of the congressional gaggle that went was the only one on this particular aircraft. The rest of them flew separately because they unexpectedly inserted a stop in California, which then put their connecting flight on a just earlier or just later, I don't remember exactly, flight, which makes it even more weird.

54:27 More suspicious that he was the only one of a gaggle that was on that particular aircraft. You know, and I guess in my head, there's so many things that trigger, like everything from USS Liberty to the thing that happened with Jim Jones and the one senator that went over and got killed. I mean, it's just... Leo Ryan. Yeah.

55:00 It's just so many. It's a tangled web, you know? There's so many similarities. Yeah, and there's so many congressional members that get killed in plane crashes. Weird. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. Okay. That's it for today. We will be doing the Alpha Warrior show tonight.

55:36 And we are going to talk about the Jasons finally, since we had to miss last week. His alpha didn't have signal at his hotel while he was at Gart. So you definitely want to tune in for that. It's a very interesting topic. Okay, yeah, similar playbooks. I agree with you. I recall the name McDonald. Yep, Sarah. I, yeah.

56:06 Very interesting guy. I would love to go through his paperwork. We need to find out where his paperwork is stored. I would love to go through his paperwork. They probably burn his house down or something. But anyway, all right, you guys, thanks for being here. We'll be back tomorrow. Take care.

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Iran funded Islamic Jihad book_quoted ▶ 2:17

“We're already doing the missile cells and all that stuff that we've talked about. It says, then in March of the following year, which would make it about 1984, CIA Station Chief William Buckley was ki…”

Islamic Jihad carried_out_attack William F. Buckley book_quoted ▶ 2:17

Israel supplied_arms_to Iran book_quoted ▶ 5:55

“was willing to provide the arms for hostages that were delivered to Iran in 1985 in exchange for sales of some of the latest American weapon systems. For the next several months, Israel managed to shi…”

National Security Council supplied_arms_to Iran book_quoted ▶ 5:55

Oliver North headed National Security Council book_quoted ▶ 6:28

“and cut Israel out. The architects of this was Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North and Richard Secord. By this time, Buckley had succumbed to the stress of incarceration and torture and had died. Still, t…”

Robert McFarlane supplied_arms_to Iran book_quoted ▶ 6:58

“Three direct armed shipments were sent to Iran from the U.S. to serve as payments towards the release of hostages. The first shipment went out in February of 1986. This is under the new arrangement be…”

Soviet Union carried_out_attack Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown book_quoted ▶ 11:19

“that he had identified the intruder and that it was a civilian airliner, even identifying the company and type of Boeing 707 KAL markings. Both times, he was told to proceed to shoot it down. And both…”

General Ivan Teryak ordered_assassination_of Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown book_quoted ▶ 16:41

“The interceptor flight tanks were only filled with enough fuel for local operations. They would not have much time to loiter once contact was made. And a decision concerning what course of action woul…”

Soviet Union carried_out_attack Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown book_quoted ▶ 29:02

“And the receipt of the final command, kill the intruder, at 6.25 was 10 minutes. At 6.26, he said he fired two missiles simultaneously. And according to him, they struck the 747, one near the tail, an…”

Marshal Nikolai Agarkov ordered_assassination_of Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown host_asserted ▶ 36:37

“a negative international incident rapidly deteriorating into world relations disaster. The only way to make that might be savaged would be a world-class deception created by the layers of lies. Even a…”

Soviet Union covered_up Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown host_asserted ▶ 36:37

Soviet Union framed United States government host_asserted ▶ 37:36

“The Russians were left with no choice but to shoot it down. The Americans, of course, were to blame. It was then who placed the 269 innocent passengers at risk for their own reasons. The Americans, by…”

The Washington Post covered_up Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown host_asserted ▶ 38:33

“they went for the disinformation campaign. The end result is that the world press swallowed the Soviet version and even came up with other reinforcing stories that the Korean 747 had indeed been a CIA…”

David Pearson exposed Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown book_quoted ▶ 40:05

“and no remarkable or inside knowledge of the event. In other words, it was handed to him to put his name on, and he did so. Then in 1984, a Yale graduate student by the name of David Pearson wrote an …”

Soviet Union promoted Marshal Nikolai Agarkov host_asserted ▶ 42:05

“In the end, even President Reagan denounced the Soviets as murderers and called for an international investigation. The issue faded into history and was all but forgotten. One of the generals were pro…”

Ronald Reagan exposed Soviet Union documented ▶ 42:05

Soviet Union appointed Mikhail Gorbachev host_asserted ▶ 42:34

“in the actual shoot down, became the personal military advisor to Mikhail Gorbachev, which is really suspect. The actual pilot that shot the missile was not so lucky. It seems that in the Russian mili…”

Soviet Union covered_up Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown book_quoted ▶ 44:05

“These things are tracked all over the world. There were more than one country that knew all of this was going on because they all have radars. Then came out a 17 part expose of the Soviet coverup surr…”

Soviet Union covered_up Korean Air Lines Flight 007 shootdown book_quoted ▶ 45:10

“According to a Soviet diver who had examined the wreck, the main thing was not what we had seen, but what we had not seen. The divers found practically no human bodies or remains. What had became of t…”

Larry McDonald member_of United States government documented ▶ 47:03

“That they could testify that they had been ambushed and that there was no warning, no gunshots across the nose, no blinking lights, nothing? Hardly. It was more likely that they were victims of a far …”

Larry McDonald exposed Federal Reserve book_quoted ▶ 47:33

“that aircraft. What is not pointed out is that Congressman McDonald was involved in a major investigation of the World Banking Cartel, the Council of Foreign Relations, the Federal Reserve Board, and …”

Larry McDonald exposed CFR book_quoted ▶ 47:33

Larry McDonald carried_out_attack Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 48:02

“In 1975, until the moment of the shoot down, Congressman McDonald had systematically carried out a campaign against the Soviet communists of a sort which no other US elected official had ever done. In…”

Jeffrey St. John exposed Larry McDonald book_quoted ▶ 48:02

Larry McDonald exposed Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 48:25

“had spent his entire career warning against the use of terrorism as an instrument of Soviet policy, particularly the use of threat of nuclear war by the Kremlin as a weapon to paralyze the U.S. But Mc…”

Gary Allen exposed CFR book_quoted ▶ 48:54

“This in turn made him a threat to the establishment international banking cabal. This put him at crossroads with the Council on Foreign Relations and its international brethren of the New World Order …”

Larry McDonald founded Western Goals book_quoted ▶ 49:17

“and riled against the drive of the Rockefellers and their allies to create one world government, combining super capitalism and communism in the same tent. Oh my gosh, isn't that the stuff we talk abo…”

Soviet Union targeted_for_regime_change Larry McDonald speculative ▶ 49:46

“so as to make any merger with totalitarian governments impossible. It is probable that with his discovery of the shadow world of international finance and power brokers and their goal of globalism and…”