The Colonel’s Corner The Great Pretense Part 1

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0:03 Hello, hello, hello, everybody. Okay. Good afternoon, Colonel. How are you? I've been better. I look like my... I just ran home from the doctor. I haven't... I don't know. I had to get taken out. So, if I start screaming, it's because the whatever has worn off. Whatever the crap is that they give you. Novocaine, whatever. Lidocaine, yeah. Whatever. So.

0:35 I didn't get to eat lunch. But we're here. We're on time. Are you live, everyone, Rumble? I am. Okay. Yep. Maker Sarge is there. I know I'm live. All right. You're still showing the old intro. That's weird. Yeah. Hopefully it's just delay. I'll give it a minute or two. Let me see.

1:17 There it is. Do you see it? Probably got the 15 second delay. Hang on. Okay. I see you. Thank you. You're good, girl. Okay. So, like I said before, this book is not going to be a long book, but I did want to cover some of the stuff. This book is called The Great Pretense by Bill Conroy, a tour through the boneyard of the CIA's war on drugs.

1:54 And interestingly enough, he has like the old aircraft they used, the skull and bone dominoes dipped in cocaine as the front page of the book. I don't know if you guys can see it from the sun coming in the windows.

2:24 broken up into parts. The chapters are real short. It's called Silencing the Messenger, Threads of the Clandestine World, Turf War, The Bogota Connection, Cocaine Flames, and Drone Code. And then he does kind of a special dedication at the end about Gary Webb.

2:54 And his book, Dark Alliance, and how basically, you know, he paid the price of being one of the first people to break all of this information. And just for reference, this book, because we always like to know when the books get published, this book came out in 2025, 2026. So it is a very recent book.

3:27 In the prologue, he talks about the CIA assets and spies being adept at carrying out illegal deeds overseas and then covering their tracks. He talks about the CIA breaking laws and the ability to do that in any foreign nation while conducting espionage and basically getting bailed out by.

3:53 the US slash ambassador slash whatever. He also says that he recognizes the CIA has immense power outside the United States, even over other US agencies, which we basically illustrated that reportedly.

4:13 He also talks about how they use the compartmentalization and siloing of information in order to make sure even people inside of the CIA that's not been read in on a particular operation has no visibility into it. He has written articles in Narco News. I went and read several of them. It says that, this is a quote,

4:45 published original investigative journalism and analysis for 19 years on the war on drugs from Latin America and on social movements, community organizing, nonviolence resistance, and election campaigns throughout the world. In 2001, Narco News won the landmark New York Supreme Court case.

5:11 Banco Nacional de Mexico versus Al Goregano, Mano Menendez, and Narco News. This case extended First Amendment rights to the internet and journalists who publish on it. The independent online newspaper did not accept advertising, but did hard-hitting reporting that broke a...

5:41 string of scoops that were on the mark and well-documented. He's quoting other newspapers like Washington Post, The Guardian, and stuff like that. The new independent journalist of the internet, as personified by Al Gorodano, who actually make things happen, invented the platinum standard of authentic journalism.

6:06 Here, free to the public, you will find two decades of reports, seven languages, including major drug war scoops by Bill Conroy, the censored San Jose Mercury News Dark Alliance series by Gary Webb, early viral videos from Narco News TV, translations to English of Latin American and other international news stories otherwise unreported in the United States. And I've used a lot of...

6:36 that site quite extensively. Again, because it is one when you use it on Yandex that you can convert the language and they do a lot of great reporting on the CIA and the narco trafficking. So I just wanted to highlight that as part of the intro to this book. So part one, silencing the messenger.

7:04 In closed-door testimony in 1991 before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, the CIA asset and pilot William Robert Tush Plumlee blew the whistle on alleged CIA narco-trafficking corruption in Latin America. Closed door. We're not allowed to know about it. Plumlee told the author his testimony was immediately classified because, again,

7:34 you're not allowed to know that your government is bringing drugs into the country to kill you. That meant that if he went public with the allegations, they would send him to jail for leaking classified information. You see how that works? You go whistleblow or get called into Congress and you tell them all of this nefarious shit and they're going to sit on it and do nothing after classifying it. And then if you say another word about it, they'll arrest you.

8:06 Not the criminal that you implicated, you. Because you're talking about your own personal experience that you're not allowed to talk about in public because they classified it to keep it away from everybody else. You really can't hate these people enough. He likened it to a gag order being censored by the national security apparatus to include Congress.

8:37 There was a summary of his congressional testimony leaked out about 10 years, if I recall right, after he did it. And I'm going to read you a part of it because it's very interesting. Sensitive documentation provided by law enforcement to this committee states, Plumlee was a former deep cover military.

9:09 military, and CIA asset from 1956 to 1987. Do the math, folks. Three decades. With a long history of CIA activities in Central America, Cuba, and Mexico, Plumlee had worked for various CIA proprietories or front companies, including Riddle Airlines.

9:42 The Dodge Corporation, Intermountain Aviation, Evergreen Helicopters, Ace Technology, and Air America. There were other companies whose name he couldn't remember. As a standard CIA procedure, Plumlee stated to this committee that the agency gave him different aliases when working different undercover operations.

10:10 Some of his aliases included Buck Pearson, James Plumlee, James Rawlings, William Pearson, Juan Carbello, and others he, again, could not remember. Plumlee, having served in the U.S. Army, told the committees that he tried to leave covert operations after his tour in Vietnam, but his handlers kept calling him for other black.

10:40 projects. Mr. Plumlee confirmed to the committee the existence of alleged drug smuggling operations involving the CIA and the U.S. military with the full knowledge of the White House and the National Security Council. He mentioned drug flights from Central America to the U.S. for the CIA with stops at places he marked on maps that he provided to Senator Gary Hart.

11:10 Gary Hart, isn't that the one that they set up with the honeypot? Yeah, that Gary Hart. Mr. Plumlee testified under oath that there was close cooperation between Mexican and U.S. government officials in drug smuggling. There is other evidence in later testimony from name redacted, which confirms most of Plumlee's testimony.

11:41 Mr. Plumlee described one of the drug corridors used by the CIA that ran the length of the Baja California with a refueling stop at an airstrip north of Cabo San Lucas. He described another common drug route that he flew starting in Panama with a stop in Santa Elena, Costa Rica. He stated that he had delivered

12:10 drugs to airfields throughout the United States Southwest, including Borigo Springs, California, and another one near Humboldt Mountain in Arizona. He provided the committee with detailed maps of the airstrips near Buckskin Mountain, close to the Colorado River, and abandoned mine sites between Parker and Havasu City in Arizona.

12:38 Mr. Plumlee mentioned in passing the infamous Mexican narco-trafficker Carlos Quintero in a major drug deal in 1984 involving Quintero, then involved in U.S.-backed right-wing Contras. Plumlee's information corroborated what other several sources had provided, both with the locations and the name of the people.

13:09 And Congress did not see fit to tell anybody in the United States that they were funding the CIA. And the CIA was using our taxpayer dollars to do this bullshit. And it isn't that they didn't know it. They knew it. They classified it to keep it away from the American people. Again, you can't hate them enough. Okay, the ghost of Gary Webb.

13:46 The author says that he never met Gary Webb, but he had just finished up a major expose about a former FBI agent called Locke Lau in October of 2003. The story exposed the Bureau had used Lau to spy on China in late 1980s and early 1990s. Oh, didn't we just find a Chinese spy here?

14:14 And everybody's acting all bent out of shape? Yeah, yeah. Because we don't ever hear about the spies that get caught in China from us. Lau was a CIA operative. He would have been sanctioned to spy internationally as an FBI agent with CIA authorization. Per executive order, one, two, three, three.

14:48 Three, three. That had been issued in the 80s by President Reagan. Lau, who went undercover posing as a businessman in a successful effort to infiltrate Chinese crime syndicates or business, whatever. In this case, they gave the FBI spy access to China's intelligence apparatus, allowing him to gather intel and cultivate human assets.

15:21 for the CIA. It was extremely dangerous. Deep cover assignment for FBI agent Locke Lau. So basically what he's saying here without saying it is he's CIA pretending to be an FBI agent. He was required to survive inside a criminal underworld for years, often cut off from FBI resources or even recognition that he existed.

15:53 Lau had completed his mission, however, the U.S. government ignored his resulting PTSD and difficulty in reentering normal society because he lived among a bunch of crooks forever. The FBI eventually fired Lau for performance, prompting him to file a lawsuit in federal court charging wrongful termination and discrimination.

16:21 From a declaration filed by Lau in 2003, I'm going to quote, the assignment was extraordinarily dangerous and stressful. I was cut off from my family and friends and the FBI handlers did not remain constant. I later learned I was not treated as other undercover agents were treated and should have been provided support, financial support, human support to ease my stress and anxieties.

16:54 From an amicus brief filed with the court in 2003, the League of United Latin American Citizens said this, Lau was involved in espionage activities, kidnappings, trading in human slavery, illegal immigration, murder, torture, kidnapping, extortion, hostage taking, and any number of other criminal activities that involve crimes against humanity. Then and now, his undercover work, Lau...

17:23 penetrated the Chinese triads, the Tang and other Chinese organized crime organizations that trade in all of these things. There is no way that Lao could have performed his undercover so well if he had not engaged in that activity.

17:46 Lau claims that in the wake of the spying mission, the FBI was willing to discard him, eventually firing him in 2000. There was a story in a business weekly in Texas that was part of a national newspaper chain that said Lau's career was based in part on...

18:12 public court documents filed with the federal court in Sacramento, California, and that is near where Gary Webb was and where Lau lived. The author later recalled reading over a paper that he got a call from a source who told me that the U.S. Attorney's Office in Sacramento had filed a motion with the court seeking to declare the public court records I had based on the story

18:43 for national security reasons that they wanted them back. I had called the U.S. Attorney's Office for comment on the story, which I suspect triggered the court mention. In the court pleadings, they asked that the government be allowed to seize and clean any computers that the FBI suspected might have stored copies of the documents exposing Lau's covert Chinese spying mission.

19:13 That meant the journalist computer and potentially the computers of the entire newspaper where he worked. What was mind-blowing to the author about this is when we went to press on Wednesday, the court document pleadings in Lau's employment discrimination case had been on file with the federal court for three weeks. They were clearly public documents because that's how he got them.

19:46 Two days later, after the newspaper had printed the stories and the readers read the story, the government was trying to put the documents as classified under national security reasons. That's weird. That's where Gary Webb came into the story. The author had communicated with Webb previously by email, and he wanted to know if he had any insight.

20:15 to offer him about this particular story. And basically was seeking encouragement to stay the course. After learning my computer was being targeted by the FBI, I gave Webb a call. He then was working as an investigator for the California legislature. And he asked him, what the hell do I do now?

20:45 And he says he gave him a rundown on the story. And he suggested because the judge had not yet ruled on the court motion, I should get the still public court documents being targeted out into the sunlight before they could be buried. Webb gave him the contact for a California First Amendment coalition, which the author then reached out to. He wrote a story about the whole affair for the coalition and then posted the story and the court documents.

21:18 on a website like Gary Webb had done. He also sent a copy of the documents to Narco News, to Al Garadano. He too put all of that on the web. The next week, the story went worldwide and the Associated Press and various groups picked it up. All of this focused mainly on the FBI's quest, enabled by U.S. prosecutors of the DOJ,

21:52 to seize the journalist's computer. This created enough blowback that the federal judge overseeing the case apparently took notice of what was going on. He decided to back away from the DOJ's strong-arm threat to seize computers and rejected that part of the motion because it had already gotten too many legs under it.

22:16 In October of 2003, the judge determined that he did not have the power to seize all copies of the Locke-Low pleadings existing outside the court's possession because it was literally all over the web. The judge knew, to paraphrase the old nursery rhyme, that Humpty Dumpty had had a great fall. From the Washington Post, published on October 23, 2003.

22:45 The Justice Department says it may renew an extraordinary request to let the FBI search and destroy mission on computers harboring classified information about a 1980s case that temporarily became public in a lawsuit. The federal judge previously rejected the idea. The initial request from federal prosecutors in Sacramento was considered highly unusual by...

23:12 legal experts because it did not specify which computers the government believes might contain classified information or how agents would retrieve and destroy the information already made public. Number one, they did not take classified information. The information was public until it was embarrassing and then they classified it, right? And it...

23:41 temporarily became public. No, no, it was always public for at least three weeks. It temporarily got classified because someone noticed it was public. That's propaganda. The judge ruled that the public court documents should be redacted and sealed, even though they're all public.

24:16 The business weekly that this author worked for at the time wanted him to cease and desist his, he was basically doing part-time narco news articles while he had a full-time journalist job. And now that he came into the spotlight, the full-time journalist job was like, yeah, I don't know. You're a little getting into a little hazy area.

24:47 doing journalism that we don't really want that journalism coming over on this journalism because this isn't real journalism. We're just doing puff shit to sell stuff. So in December, 2003, a few weeks after publishing what turned out to be the final investigative story in the San Antonio business journal, because that's where he was working on the Locke Lau case.

25:19 my corporate office came calling and they shut him down. So if he wanted to keep a paycheck, he was going to have to go back to writing blase business, you know, like so-and-so opened a taco stand on the corner because that's the hard-hitting news that the business journal wanted to publish and not the fact that our federal government is using front companies as businesses.

25:49 in order to sell narcotics. So Webb then responds in an email once the guy told Gary Webb, he's like, fuck, I'm sorry. I wish I could say that this is unheard of, but it was done to me. That's par for the course if you're gonna actually do real journalism. And so he...

26:15 recounts a few other things that Gary Webb said to him about that. And he replied and he says, welcome to the club. You can wear the shutdown badge with pride. So as it turns out, the author said he found a loophole. He still had the option of pursuing stories as freelance, not under his official newspaper.

26:45 and began writing at Narco News more and just publishing them there and not in the real news. So that just tells you everything you need to know about the real news. You can't publish real news in real news outlets. That's literally crazy. Okay, then he says that on November 7th, 2003, several weeks after I published my initial story,

27:18 um there was a long expose on the case through English language Asia times and he had advanced the story even further and provided me more shelter from the storm talking about another author um having added some flavor from the actual theater Asia about what was going on so he says that um

27:48 the author had stayed in touch over time, kind of bantering back, because obviously he's talking about stuff that Gary Webb was intimately involved in. And he goes on to say that one of the, let me find his name, Charles Bowden, Webb had once told him to trust Charles Bowden with his life.

28:20 Obviously, Bowden is the author of books called Down by the River, Drugs, Money, Murder, and Family. He had done several different investigative research things, focusing too on the Contra piece of it. Bowden was one of the few journalists in Webb's corner after he fell victim to the lynching.

28:50 proverbial lynching, that is. And Bowden wrote in Esquire magazine the following. Two years ago, Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that had some things about the CIA and drug traffickers. The CIA denied the charges and every major newspaper in the country took the agency's word for it. Gary Webb was ruined, which is a shame because he was right. So the author gets on.

29:21 the phone with Bowden in December of 2004. And this is around the time when Gary Webb was murdered and they were talking and Bowden then 59 said he believed that he tells the author here that, yeah, he thinks Gary Webb killed himself.

29:51 And the author just immediately says, yeah, the whole two bullet thing, what? And he says, I'm at an age now where I have people dying all around me, Baldwin said. And he really didn't wanna face reality that they could be murdered for telling the truth. So he has several conversations back and forth because now obviously his,

30:24 touch into that world having done a lot of research with Gary Webb's gone. So he stays in touch with Bowden and it talks a little bit about that. So we get to the point where he says they're talking about his story. And when Bowden heard that Gary had recently begun writing for the weekly Sacramento News and Review, he thought that maybe it was a sign that things were turning around for him.

30:56 In the daily news sense, Gary was the best investigative reporter in the country, according to Bowden. The next chapter, the ghost of Charles Bowden. So the author says, when I heard that he had passed, I had tears in my eyes. The news came in in 2014 that Charles Bowden had died.

31:29 He died peacefully in his bed at his home in New Mexico, Las Cruz, New Mexico, after having persistent flu-like symptoms in 2014. In August, his companion, Molly Molai, a Latin American researcher, writer, and librarian at New Mexico State University,

32:00 said that there had been an irregular heartbeat at a recent EKG. He went to bed and didn't wake up. In the author's mind, it was like he can't die. He was so helpful in being a sounding board once he lost Gary Webb. This is what Bowden had to say on the CIA.

32:30 The DEA, for example, has a need to demonize opponents. Also, they loathe the CIA because intelligence work means having useful relationships with criminals. I do know the DEA agents have talked to me about the CIA's penetration and control of their agency. Yes, we've talked about it too.

32:54 Basically, the drug industry is too connected to American foreign policy needs and for it to be left to the cowboys of the DEA. So not only are they overruled, but they're infiltrated. The DEA agents seem to have stories of busts that were erased because they were connected directly to the CIA. Then he goes on to say,

33:22 I remember when this case, the murder of DEA agent Kiki Camarena in 1985 began because it prompted then DEA supervisor agent Phil Jordan to explain to me that the DEA had been penetrated by the CIA and such agents watched people like Kiki.

33:52 For example, he told me that DEA agents in Texas who had a habit of disappearing cases and so was avoided by other agents. He said everybody knew the guy was really a CIA agent that disappeared cases. Jordan previously had served at the head of the DEA Dallas field office and as head of the agency at El Paso Intelligence Center.

34:21 He passed away in 2023. Now, what did we learn about the El Paso Intelligence Center? That's the place where that colonel that was whole family was narco traffickers that was in the National Guard. That's where he got a job. And that intelligence center is where all drug.

34:46 information from everywhere comes into a central location and it is where you can put codes on people that either say they're informants or whatever under indictment or investigation or whatever if they want to protect someone they have these codes they put on them so you can find their name but you can't do anything with them and plus

35:17 that corrupt colonel had given the codes to get in the system to the cartel so they could check on themselves. Crazy. The author goes on and says, of course, I am the convinced reader since I neither think the CIA can be reformed nor that it has ever been functional. Yeah, I'm right there with him.

35:49 Tim Weiner's Legacy of Ashes gives, for me, the opposite conclusion than the one he reaches. He thinks the agency must be reformed and saved from politics. I think the agency has always been tailored to produce intelligence for the executive branch and always will. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah, Legacy of Ashes is trash as far as I'm concerned.

36:19 One factor I think never seems to make the press, the fear many former players have of the CIA. They will talk, but only up to a point, and often then they will refuse to go public. I have had this experience ever since I did the piece on Gary Webb.

36:45 And with some of them, this game has been going on for over 10 years with him. They'll talk to him, but they will not ever allow anything that they say to go public, nor will they go public. So you get frustrated. And frankly, if you're a freelancer, such as myself, you eventually get starved off the story. Also, there is the fact that your reputation is attacked.

37:11 I will always remember the put down by the agenda setting media of then U.S. Senator John Kerry and his committee. That's the committee that was supposedly looking into all of this shit. The committee in part explored the CIA's connection to drug trafficking and resulted in the 1989 Senate Subcommittee Report on Drugs, Law Enforcement, and Foreign Policy, known as the Kerry Committee Report.

37:37 If you have ever been around these guys, you see on cable news giving opinions, and I have, you realize that they are part of the government. And sometimes I have felt in a dark way, they are. Bowden's words would prove very important given the number of Fox News personalities and pundits now holding high office in government.

38:12 Actually, his advice would be simply close the CIA since I find their intelligence track record abysmal and vastly overrated. They have been politicized since the beginning. 100% agree with that assessment. Chapter three, El Salvador. Salerino.

38:48 David Castillo's fate after exposing the CIA-supported Iran-Contra air arms for drugs smuggling operation in Central America certainly was not enhanced by powerful forces within the standing U.S. bureaucracy. This is the guy that we learned about in Gary Webb's book that was the DEA agent hero that exposed everything and then basically got put in a broom closet.

39:17 Castillo was a Vietnam Army veteran earning a bronze star and a former detective sergeant in Edenburg Police Department in Texas. He later served with the USDA, participating in dangerous undercover investigations. He found himself thrust into life-threatening deep cover in Latin America.

39:46 His future with the DEA, however, was cut short after he exposed what he saw as corrupt operations in Central America being undertaken through the sponsorship of another federal agency and the White House. That's at Il Pango in El Salvador. While a DEA agent in Central America in the 80s during the Reagan administration, Castillo

40:16 uncovered damning evidence of wrongdoing being carried out by the CIA and the White House National Security Council. Through San Antonio, Texas, Native and National Counterterrorism Coordinator, Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North and other CIA assets. What his investigation skills had ferreted out was on its face an illegal operation underway at two hangars at Ilopango Airport in...

40:46 El Salvador. Those airport hangars, Castillo discovered, were serving as weapons in narcotic trans-shipment sites for funding and arming the U.S.-backed Contras. That was prohibited by the Boeing Amendment. From that moment forward, Castillo's became a target in the dirty war. He became a household name inside the DEA, said Saldalio.

41:18 Gonzalez, who retired after a long career in the DEA, his last post as the head of the agency's El Paso, Texas field office. Gonzalez told the author, quote, they ruined his reputation over the stuff that happened in El Salvador and he became a target. He took on the establishment and it didn't come out so good for him, unquote. Castillo's investigation into

41:49 Ilopango airport operations eventually drew CIA interference. Castillo said with the CIA taking over control of his key informant. Castillo continued his investigation. So the guy that's helping him get around, showing him all the ins and outs, the CIA comes in and says, yeah, you're not allowed to talk to the DEA guy anymore. You're over here.

42:19 That seems weird. Like they should all work for the same government, except for that we know they don't. So Castillo continued his, thank you, investigation. And the DEA, he was sending his information up the DEA chain. And what was coming back down the chain is retaliatory investigations of the agent.

42:55 Quote, I even testified before a grand jury about all this stuff in the middle of the 1990s, Castillo said. They did not want to hear it. They sealed my testimony for national security, unquote. Think about that. Let that sink in. You tell the government via a grand jury that the government is trafficking narcotics and weapons.

43:27 and it gets sealed and buried. Wow. Castillo subsequently, after a 12-year career, retired from the DEA, but he has remained outspoken advocate against the DEA and even authored a book about his life and experiences called Powder Burns. Yeah, he definitely got burnt. Many years later, Castillo was surveilled and then arrested.

44:01 He was ultimately convicted and given a 37-month sentence for violating federal firearm regulations. He was a self-proclaimed gun enthusiast who frequented gun shows, concedes that he did sell some legally purchased guns absent the proper federal paperwork. However, he says that none of these weapons were sold to prohibited purchasers.

44:32 And he vehemently denies that any of those guns ever got to Mexico, nor is there any convincing evidence to the contrary. So the government can do that in Fast and Furious, but the guy they're targeting sells a gun he's not supposed to sell, your ass is going to jail. You wonder how much of that was not a setup, right? In 2009,

45:06 The author wrote about Castillo's gun case for Narco News, and this is a quote from the article. Among the latest revelations in the case is the fact that Castillo was being represented by a lawyer who was in the process of having his bar license suspended for allegedly bilking clients out of money.

45:30 On top of that, this same lawyer's son was facing serious gun charges in another federal court in Texas at the same time he was representing Castillo. Those facts on their own is a huge conflict of interest for that attorney in handling Castillo's case, given that both situations would have made it extremely difficult for that lawyer to provide vigorous defense for his client.

46:00 In the back of his mind, the lawyer had to be worrying about his own future and that of his son. Should he run afoul of the prosecutor in Castillo's case, according to the attorneys and law enforcement who spoke with Narco News, they had it in for his son. So was he supposed to be throwing the case for Castillo so that he could get his son off?

46:25 Everything in the case was tainted by the lawyer trying to get out from under things, particularly in relationship to his son. A civil rights defense attorney, Reber Bolt, who serves as a co-legal director for the ACLU in New Mexico, said he couldn't do anything that the prosecutor didn't like, meaning basically he had no representation.

46:56 Even if we assume the government, the prosecutor, did everything by the book, his Castillo's lawyer still seems to have opened himself up to allegations of ineffective assistant counsel. Weird how those things just mysteriously happen around things when you're dealing with the CIA. In Panama, Noriega, former military leader of Panama, played for both the CIA and the DEA.

47:29 Prior to falling out of grace and being arrested in the wake of the U.S. military invasion by George H.W. Bush, Mr. Drug Man CIA himself, while president in Panama in 1989, there was, in 1987, then DEA Administrator Jack Lawn penned a letter to Noriega that said, quote, the DEA has long welcomed our close association and we stand ready to proceed jointly.

47:58 against international drug traffickers whenever the opportunity arises, unquote. Now, the two aforementioned heads of state, Bush and Noriega, both have accounts at BCCI, the drug money laundering bank that's being ran out of the UK. So we're looking forward to doing those anti-drug, meaning drug, operations. In early 1988,

48:29 After Noriega was indicted by the US, Congress and Justice Department officials accused DEA of giving the pandemonium dictator a free pass on his narco-trafficking activities during the period they were using him to help make cases against other narco-traffickers, according to the New York Times. Actually, they were just using him to get rid of the competition.

48:54 In July 1999, appeals court ruling in the Noriega criminal case also reveals that the CIA had an intimate relationship with Noriega. However, the appeals court ruling let stand the trial court decision to conceal that relationship. What? Here's what it said, quote, the government objected to any disclosure.

49:26 of the purpose for which the United States had paid Noriega. In pretrial proceedings, the government offered to stipulate that Noriega had received approximately a third of a million dollars from the U.S. Army and the CIA. Noriega insisted that the actual figure was 10 million dollars.

49:57 And that he should be allowed to disclose it. And what he did for the $10 million. Yeah, they said no. No. We're not interested in what you did for the $10 million or the fact that it was $10 million. Yeah. The district court held that the information about the context and content of the operations for which Noriega had been engaged.

50:31 was not relevant to his defense. Huh? Maybe he was just doing what he was told to do. And that would seem like it's relevant, but no, we don't want to know. Okay. So we're going to go ahead and stop there for today. And we will get into the rest of this book.

51:06 Like I said, this book's gonna go fast. We're already on chapter three because there's a lot of fill-in stuff here that we've already went over and I'm not gonna bore you with it. But I do like reading you the quotes out of these newspaper things that kind of reiterate and provide us more basis for sourcing, which Illini always gets on to me to do more of.

51:36 No, he doesn't. I'm just teasing. Anyway, SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. And thank everyone for being here on Rumble In On Spaces. This book is, I mean, it's, in a way, it's hilarious. Because this is a who's who, a who you don't want to speak. Yeah. And it just blows my mind. Now, earlier you mentioned something about Fox News.

52:07 I took it that Fox News was actually inside the CIA, working in CIA assets. No, he's just saying. You get CIA, you get Fox News going or CIA going to Fox News. No, no, no. What he's saying is that there's a lot of Fox News people that go in and out of government.

52:35 not necessarily the CIA itself, because he thinks all media is an arm of the CIA. So what he's saying is that, and it's not just obviously Fox News, this guy you're going to see has kind of a bent. He picks out Fox News for the obvious reasons. But the same is true with CNN, MSNBC, NBC, all of those people.

53:04 That are the PR arm. Of the CIA. Go into administrations. So he just obviously. Picks out Fox. Because he's obviously not a fan. Of the right side of the aisle. Does that. Yeah. And then of course you have Sean Hannity. Who wore his CIA pin. Actually on the set. So he's not without reason. In saying that. All along.

53:42 You're going to have to speak up. Sorry, can you hear me? Barely. All right, here. Can you hear me now? Barely. Okay, yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. So the part about, you know, the bureaucratic continuity or the ambiguous, you know. They're fading out again. The CIA contacts within China.

54:09 That part that you mentioned earlier. Yeah. From the book. Yeah. It reminded me, you know, that our good friend H.W. Bush, you know, was there during the Nixon administration, you know, working for the CIA without maybe telling every picky dick about what he was doing for trickier dick, you know, in 70 and 71. Right. Before, you know, in some ways preparing the Kissinger, you know, China initiative.

54:37 But, you know, how would we know what other things that he wasn't doing? You know, it's H.W. Bush, right? In 70 and 71. And then, of course, you know, it might be completely unconnected, but, you know, you have the whole Clinton-Chinagate scandal involving the entire friggin' Commerce Department circa 1996.

55:05 It's just like. And didn't didn't that guy die in a plane crash? Yes. With a bullet in his head. Why? I think you might be on to something there, Colonel. And, you know, if there is a point here, it's just like, you know, how much of this bureaucratic continuity of CIA within China do we not know about? I mean, we know about that. It's all put under the rubric of.

55:36 Nixon goes to China. But we also know that that was, you know, kind of like a temporary thing. And then, you know, when certain folks maybe wanted, you know, certain folks within the CIA disagreed with perhaps disagreed with other people who wanted to end detente or to keep the detente going with Russia and China at the same time, when it feels to me like.

56:06 The detente with Russia, with Soviet Union was just, you know, kind of expedient in order to get into a new relationship with China, you know. And so it's like very hard for us to see what the heck has really been going on in China all this time. I agree. Yeah. Deani, go ahead. Hello. Good evening from Berlin. Can you hear me?

56:32 I don't want to do any spoiler alerts, and I just jumped in, so I don't want to spoil your reading there. I just happened to be in Miami at the time at the Noriega trial, and because straits and canals are of essence right now, I just remember, if I can just share this with you, that this was my take at the time. Yeah, he was a useful asset.

57:03 Right. And they wanted to remove him under that war on drugs thing. But the Panama Canal treaties from 1977 established that the United States would cede control of that canal to Panama by the end of 1999. Maybe you've mentioned this before. Yes, we have. Oh, I'm sorry. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Make your point.

57:34 It's just because it's like it's a repeat right now in terms of all these strategic, like the Suez Canal on all the straits in terms of strategic controls. And he was a very uncomfortable mercurial asset there and was becoming increasingly nationalist, you know. And so they needed to take control of that critical choke point there. And we've seen this in Nicaragua as well.

58:02 But yeah, I'm sorry. I don't want to jump in there. No, no, that's fine. So I think it's worthy of looking into. I don't know if you're ever going to find any concrete connection between the canal and Noriega. What you will find, though, is Noriega obviously had been on the CIA payroll for a very long time.

58:29 And I mean, this is documented in the BCCI investigations. He had an account there as did George H.W. Bush. They had been allies for a very long time in narco trafficking. But what you find in around the same timeframe is people like Pablo Escobar was trying to

58:57 Break out of the CIA controlled network of narco trafficking. So in Pablo Escobar's perspective, instead of using just only the U.S. approved couriers inside of the U.S., he dispatched a whole bunch of his narco traffickers up here and was basically like.

59:22 killing the Cuban exiles that had been relied upon for decades at that point to do the interior distribution and the mafia and all that. So Pablo Escobar also didn't like laundering all of his money through the U.S., which was basically a requirement if you're going to have CIA protection to run these networks. He had began using Noriega.

59:52 and the pandemonium banks to do money laundering. And all of the above totally pissed off Mr. CIA President George H.W. Bush.

1:00:07 because none of that was allowed. And of course, we know that they assassinated Pablo Escobar as a result of him not coloring inside the lines as well. This is just what they do. And then if they actually do bring you to trial, they will seal and not allow you to talk about anything that will implicate anything they did. Those are the rules. We've seen this over and over in our research as well.

1:00:33 Um, so it's a closed loop system that if they target you, you are going down. It's just a matter of time. It's, it's, it's awful. So just, uh, there was no research there to, that we know of that the, the ending of the Panama canal deal.

1:00:56 was maybe a factor in this. So I've not, and believe me, when it comes to this stuff, I've read a whole bunch. I've never seen that connection ran to ground. I have heard people say that it possibly could have had some connection, but you also have to keep in mind that

1:01:17 During this same timeframe, things like the School of Americas that had been in Panama was shutting down and being moved to Fort Benning. So there was a lot of things in flux at the time. I just have never seen anybody say, you know, hey, Noriega was going to do this with the Panama Canal. We don't like that. And therefore we snatched them.

1:01:45 I have seen lots of evidence on the banking accounts, the narco thing, him being on the CIA's payroll that directly relate and the evidence of him helping Pablo Escobar get outside of the CIA approved system in several different books. So that's what we know.

1:02:09 Could it also be that? Yes. I just don't have any evidence. And so I'm very clear when we do these things of what we speculate and what we have evidence of. Thank you, Colonel. It was just an honest question. Thank you. Yeah. No, absolutely. I love it. Because it would make perfect sense.

1:02:28 If, like you said, he's turning more inside, wanting to separate from the CIA, and they think he's getting outside their grasp, and then you have the Panama thing coming up, is that going to be? But it didn't happen for quite a while. So could it have been a factor? Maybe. But what we know is a factor is the drugs. All along, go ahead.

1:03:04 All along? Yeah, Colonel, on the comparison of the canal politics, you know, I'm kind of reminded of the 1956 so-called Suez Crisis, whereby, you know, it's kind of like a flea flicker, so to speak, whereby, you know, Eisenhower, he rejects the Israel and British.

1:03:34 you know, invasion of, you know, of the Suez Canal and makes the U.S. seem like, oh, look, we're not taking the side of the British and the French and their Israeli proxy, you know, which is kind of that early, you know, before the JFK assassination. That was a legitimate concern within the State Department that, you know, and JFK, you know, actually expressed it.

1:04:04 Two, in the sense of we don't want to seem too much like England and France because it's too early to do that yet. You haven't fully baked in your whole domino theory propaganda targeting the U.S. population to justify intervening everywhere against anti-colonial struggles in the name of anti-communism when it was really about imperialism.

1:04:32 Sometimes a kind of flea flicker action, as it were, where you don't want to seem directly like you're intervening imperialistically, but then later the policy changes. I'm not sure if we see that with Panama or not. I'm going to have to review it. The other thing that I'm reminded of is...

1:04:58 I don't know how long. Let me just say, I think it's pretty imperialistic that you go in there and hope the government's been on your payroll. But go ahead. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm not denying that. I'm just wondering if there was, you know, similar, you know.

1:05:15 I have no doubt. Yeah. Yeah. I have no doubt. There's probably a number of reasons for that action because it's not like they don't love military dictators. They dropped them off everywhere. The only evidence that I've ever seen that made any sense to me at all is that he started coloring outside the lines. But go ahead. Right. Yeah. I just wanted to also mention, you know, our.

1:05:43 um good friend douglas valentine you know in when you mention the dea connections to cia i think it's in his second book i don't i can't whether it's strength of the will for strength of the pack where he talks about those 12 you know so-called dirty dozen uh cia guys are directly transferred from vietnam to the border of mexico to to run the new dea this is right when

1:06:13 The Bureau of Narcotics is closing and being replaced by the new Virginal DEA, which is re-virginated right from the start with the Dirty Dozen from the Phoenix program. So that tells you how Chase, the new DEA, which is supposed to purify the Bureau of Narcotics, is going to be from the beginning. And so, yeah, there's that whole continuity that we kind of – it's hard to connect those breadcrumbs because there's so little journalism about it. Yep.

1:06:43 Yep. Good point. And, you know, that's just like the, we talked about in someone else's book that was talked about as well, that special CIA cell inside of the DEA. That was one of our very early books. Trying to remember which one that was. Was that by the guy named Levine? Oh, I think that is. Yeah. Yeah. He used to have a radio show on WVAA.

1:07:13 Before all of the critics of the CIA got removed from our local leftist station. We can't have any leftists be skeptical of the CIA in the United States. Yeah, that's not allowed. It has to be Captain Tucker where. Yeah. And so also there's been several books that we've done that talked about.

1:07:38 the historical corruption in the BND overseas and how they basically were just another extension of the same apparatus. And so we found out that there was a cell inside of the FBI.

1:07:57 that was basically CIA. And I'm really not sure. We also found out that there's a lot of military people walking around in a uniform that's CIA over the course of the last 75 years. So I'm not sure that there's any organization that does anything in the United States that has not been infiltrated by the CIA. Religions.

1:08:26 all have been infiltrated and used, some willingly. And it's just quite a phenomenon that once you get into this, you realize that there's nothing that, no organization that does anything significant that isn't worthy of their presence in some way. All along, go ahead. Yeah, Colonel, on that note,

1:08:56 You know, this is something I've recently decided, you know, because ironically, one of one of these researchers who, you know, I had a little personal tip with hard to imagine on Twitter. He's done a lot of good work and, you know, in some areas, but whatever. He's just like kind of made fun of me. I know. Tough work. I get it. But about, you know, emphasizing, say, CIA.

1:09:25 all you know all the time and he made some little joke about that and i'm like you know wait a minute guys um you have a situation in which you know algorithms blaming you know this alone or that alone are given massive coverage there's zero meanwhile there's zero coverage of cia in zero media and and also and and almost basically the alternative left media

1:09:52 Except if it's in 1953 in Iran, they're allowed to do that. But it's not like zero coverage of CIA and media. And if you have zero coverage of CIA and media, you're essentially ceding the schools to the same old legacy media that you pretend to despise, pretend to despise, but actually protect. And so it's one of the things I've been trying to remember to do is.

1:10:20 I've been creating this phrase, kind of historical-CIA. And it sounds kind of pretentious, perhaps. Hard to imagine, I know. But what I'm trying to say is that, you know, you have these long history of CIA ties to all kinds of media, all kinds of academia. As Professor Simpson shows in his, you know, kind of just essential book, The Science of Coercion, the very, you know, new...

1:10:49 Academic discipline of communications research is coming right out of the CIA and Pentagon. And so all the way back to 1947, you know, and actually before that, when you look at the OSS during World War II. Correct. I mean, an entire discipline of journalism studies, what we call communications majors in college, is born of the effing CIA. And yet you have people saying you're overemphasizing the CIA.

1:11:19 Well, it's like you can kind of see, I guess, see their point in a very one dimensional point. It's like somebody, you know, mentioned CIA only because no one else on the planet is. But on the other hand, it's like if we mention, you know, historic hype and CIA, it kind of gets into this idea that we're dealing with a kind of, you know, dare I say it, matrix. And I hesitate to use that cliche term because it puts you in cartoonville already.

1:11:49 You know, the idea is that once, you know, CBS and the CIA or or CIA and NBC or The New York Times or whatever, or Noam Chomsky, the New York Times fake dissident that's actually protecting the New York Times better than anyone could. You know, once that relationship starts way back when those ties.

1:12:13 You know, they might not be 100 percent on all the time, but they're always there. They're generational, too. Right. And so, you know, that's why I've been trying to remember to type historical slip hyphen CIA. It's, you know, because it's like we need to remember that these relationships are just clogging the fuck out of everything now. And they're not just coming from a building in North Virginia. They're coming from long term relationships between the CIA and other bureaucracies.

1:12:43 Throughout American society. Well, I would like to look into a single significant foreign policy issue that we've had in the last 75 years and not find the CIA. Unfortunately, what you find is the CIA is at the tip of the spear in formulating our foreign policy because it is their intelligence that generate the foreign policy.

1:13:13 And so if you can't separate the CIA from foreign policy, knowing that they generate intelligence of their own without any verifiable evidence at all, they just create it out of whole cloth, that wipes out the entire foreign policy. Once you've established that the CIA has infiltrated

1:13:40 the former Department of Defense, you also can't filter out that. And we already have well established their involvement in generating economic warfare. So you've literally taken the three elements of power that any sovereign country has.

1:14:04 and intertwine them with the CIA. So what exactly are you going to talk about that doesn't have some aspect of the intelligence apparatus in it? Because they embedded themselves everywhere, both domestic and foreign. So you can be the one that is the lone wolf out there howling at the moon that...

1:14:32 this organization has infiltrated every aspect of our institutions in the United States. And when you have the very institutions themselves, like USAID saying, yeah, we just took over overtly what the CIA has been doing covertly. Hello, all I'm doing is highlighting what their own words are.

1:14:55 We're using source documents. So you prove to me where I've accused the CIA of doing something that they didn't in fact do, and then your criticism may have some basis to it. But if you can't, and you can't, because we've sourced all of it, then shut up. That's my response. Sean, go ahead. Hi, thanks, Colonel.

1:15:24 Yeah, I think the way things are going with the war in Iran at the moment and Trump, it's not going great for him, you know. It's going very badly, in fact, and it could cause a global recession that it will take about 10 years to recover from. And millions of people will die of starvation in the third world, etc. And I think as a distraction from all of that, Trump has released the UFO files.

1:15:52 you know, just to take the media's attention away from his failures. And the UFO files, of course, are ridiculous. I mean, this is the only planet in the universe that we know of where there is life. There's probably no life elsewhere in the universe. And there are no aliens. So I don't know what kind of material. I have seen some of the videos, and they're all very grainy, out of focus, you know, and all this sort of stuff.

1:16:22 But yeah, I just wanted to say that this UFO files thing is just a distraction from his failures. So, Sean, I know you say that every show and you're entitled to your opinion. There's a lot of people that do not share that opinion. So, Deani, go ahead. Yeah, sorry. Back to the influence, how far reaching it was.

1:16:49 I just found something because I had been researching this a while back, and I'm a painter myself, that it was interestingly enough that the Guggenheim and Bilbao, and if you'll allow me here, discussing the CIA and abstract expressionism. And so during the early wars, the Cold War, the threat of the world conflict and so forth, and the spread of communism. I'll run down here.

1:17:17 However, for a broad sector of the country's intellectual elite, abstract expressionism represented a triumph of free culture over totalitarianism because it was based on the absolute freedom of the artist. And I quote, this is why the Central Intelligence Agency deftly turned three artists into propagandist weapons that American culture could wield against the Soviets.

1:17:47 even subsidizing their work behind their backs in the New York City Museum of Modern Art, presided by Nelson Rockefeller, and so forth. I mean, that's a huge story, and we have to go down that rabbit hole, but it's amazing that even the Guggenheim is now just coming out full force and saying, the CIA definitely won that war.

1:18:07 They don't even hide it anymore. It's so amazing. Yeah. So we've talked about that. They had an actual CIA front called the Congress of Cultural Freedom that they set up.

1:18:19 They operated primarily in Europe, but they also operated in the United States. And they understand that politics is downstream of culture. And their entire operation with creating the Congress of Cultural Freedom, which again is the exact opposite because they name everything the exact opposite of what it does, was basically for them to co-opt.

1:18:48 all artists, authors, filmmakers, actual artists. The venues, like the Biennale in Venice and so forth. And the, Nelson Rockefeller and his mother was the proprietaries of that, or proprietors of that museum in New York. And they did exactly the same thing. They were,

1:19:18 co-opting. And a lot of this is funded in addition to CIA covert funding, but a lot of it is funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and many of the other Ford Foundation. And this was all exposed back in the 1950s of how they were using the money from these foundations to co-opt all of that. So yeah, absolutely. Why are you so mad? Go ahead.

1:19:48 Okay, I wanted to address the person who was talking about Donald Trump and it not going so well in Iran and the world going into the recession. I don't know who said that. That was Sean. But it doesn't matter. Okay, Sean, there's pain before gain. And when it comes down to it, this whole system has been set up on the backs of everybody in every country.

1:20:17 Till those countries, and I'm talking particularly Europe, actually understands that and still goes along with the globalist, deep-veined monster that it is, there is going to be pain. But as far as it being a long, drawn-out recession, depression, no, I don't think so. Once we get into being actually sovereign countries, things are going to look a heck of a lot different.

1:20:46 But until Europe actually comes around, and as far as what's going on in Iran, it's going on perfectly as planned. Things are moving along there that we probably don't even have a clue about or even a look at. And him releasing the UFO files to distract from his failures. What failures are you talking about? So, guys, look.

1:21:15 Everybody can have their own opinion. Our show is not about opinions. Our shows is about stuff that we can prove. Facts that we discover. We don't know what is going on, what the strategy is in Iran. We don't have a full picture of what it is. Everybody is guessing. We don't do that on the show. We have no idea what the end state is.

1:21:45 We don't know what the repercussions of that is. And the fact that anything, whether it was COVID that killed millions of people around the world, you're dealing with an evil enemy. The CIA and the regime change operation, over 90 of them.

1:22:07 By anybody's estimates, if you just add up the casualties that have died as a result of these regime change, it's over 10 million people. This evil monster and this globalist agenda has to be stopped. Is it going to result in turbulence as you destroy this apparatus? Yes, it is.

1:22:36 And that's the end of the story. We're not going to speculate on this show about things we don't know about. We talk about things that we have evidence of. So that's the end of that. And if you just want to come up and express opinions, that's not what this show is about. We're here uncovering history that has never been talked about publicly.

1:23:03 And most of that generates around, obviously, Operation Gladio. That's kind of our specialty. And the drug trafficking network that enabled it by the generation of covert funding through the use of drugs or the control of drugs, not the use of drugs. So that's basically what we do here. We're not speculating on current events.

1:23:31 because we don't have the intelligence to do that. And I don't mean intelligence brain-wise, I mean actual intelligence, because it's classified. So, all right. Anyway, it's Wednesday, so I've got to run. And we will be on the Alpha Warrior Show tonight at nine o'clock.

1:23:55 I'm still working on what we're going to be discussing. So hopefully I'll get that all pulled together so we can have a coherent show. And I don't lose my notes page like I did last week where it just disappears off my computer. So anyway, hope you guys join us tonight at nine o'clock East Coast time for the Alpha Warrior Show. Otherwise, I'll be back at four o'clock tomorrow. You guys take care. See ya.

Entities here

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Claims made here

Bill Conroy founded Narco News book_quoted ▶ 4:13

“He also talks about how they use the compartmentalization and siloing of information in order to make sure even people inside of the CIA that's not been read in on a particular operation has no visibi…”

Narco News exposed CIA host_asserted ▶ 6:36

“that site quite extensively. Again, because it is one when you use it on Yandex that you can convert the language and they do a lot of great reporting on the CIA and the narco trafficking. So I just w…”

William Robert Tush Plumlee member_of Riddle Airlines documented ▶ 9:09

“military, and CIA asset from 1956 to 1987. Do the math, folks. Three decades. With a long history of CIA activities in Central America, Cuba, and Mexico, Plumlee had worked for various CIA proprietori…”

William Robert Tush Plumlee member_of Phelps Dodge Corporation documented ▶ 9:09

William Robert Tush Plumlee member_of Intermountain Aviation documented ▶ 9:09

William Robert Tush Plumlee member_of Aerospace Technology documented ▶ 9:09

William Robert Tush Plumlee member_of Air America documented ▶ 9:09

William Robert Tush Plumlee member_of Evergreen Helicopters documented ▶ 9:09

William Robert Tush Plumlee member_of CIA documented ▶ 9:09

CIA trafficked United States documented ▶ 10:40

“projects. Mr. Plumlee confirmed to the committee the existence of alleged drug smuggling operations involving the CIA and the U.S. military with the full knowledge of the White House and the National …”

CIA trafficked Mexico documented ▶ 11:10

“Gary Hart, isn't that the one that they set up with the honeypot? Yeah, that Gary Hart. Mr. Plumlee testified under oath that there was close cooperation between Mexican and U.S. government officials …”

CIA funded Contras host_asserted ▶ 13:09

“And Congress did not see fit to tell anybody in the United States that they were funding the CIA. And the CIA was using our taxpayer dollars to do this bullshit. And it isn't that they didn't know it.…”

Locke Lau spied_on China book_quoted ▶ 13:46

“The author says that he never met Gary Webb, but he had just finished up a major expose about a former FBI agent called Locke Lau in October of 2003. The story exposed the Bureau had used Lau to spy o…”

Locke Lau member_of FBI book_quoted ▶ 14:14

“And everybody's acting all bent out of shape? Yeah, yeah. Because we don't ever hear about the spies that get caught in China from us. Lau was a CIA operative. He would have been sanctioned to spy int…”

Locke Lau member_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 14:14

FBI removed_from_power Locke Lau book_quoted ▶ 15:53

“Lau had completed his mission, however, the U.S. government ignored his resulting PTSD and difficulty in reentering normal society because he lived among a bunch of crooks forever. The FBI eventually …”

U.S. Department of Justice covered_up Locke Lau book_quoted ▶ 22:45

“The Justice Department says it may renew an extraordinary request to let the FBI search and destroy mission on computers harboring classified information about a 1980s case that temporarily became pub…”

Gary Webb exposed CIA book_quoted ▶ 28:50

“proverbial lynching, that is. And Bowden wrote in Esquire magazine the following. Two years ago, Gary Webb wrote a series of articles that had some things about the CIA and drug traffickers. The CIA d…”

CIA covered_up Enrique Kiki Camarena book_quoted ▶ 33:22

“I remember when this case, the murder of DEA agent Kiki Camarena in 1985 began because it prompted then DEA supervisor agent Phil Jordan to explain to me that the DEA had been penetrated by the CIA an…”

Phil Jordan headed El Paso Intelligence Center book_quoted ▶ 33:52

“For example, he told me that DEA agents in Texas who had a habit of disappearing cases and so was avoided by other agents. He said everybody knew the guy was really a CIA agent that disappeared cases.…”

John Kerry headed Church Committee Report documented ▶ 37:11

“I will always remember the put down by the agenda setting media of then U.S. Senator John Kerry and his committee. That's the committee that was supposedly looking into all of this shit. The committee…”

David Castillo exposed CIA book_quoted ▶ 38:48

“David Castillo's fate after exposing the CIA-supported Iran-Contra air arms for drugs smuggling operation in Central America certainly was not enhanced by powerful forces within the standing U.S. bure…”

CIA trafficked Contras book_quoted ▶ 40:46

“El Salvador. Those airport hangars, Castillo discovered, were serving as weapons in narcotic trans-shipment sites for funding and arming the U.S.-backed Contras. That was prohibited by the Boeing Amen…”

CIA covered_up David Castillo book_quoted ▶ 41:49

“Ilopango airport operations eventually drew CIA interference. Castillo said with the CIA taking over control of his key informant. Castillo continued his investigation. So the guy that's helping him g…”

CIA paid Manuel Noriega documented ▶ 49:26

“of the purpose for which the United States had paid Noriega. In pretrial proceedings, the government offered to stipulate that Noriega had received approximately a third of a million dollars from the …”

Manuel Noriega laundered_money_for Pablo Escobar host_asserted ▶ 59:22

“killing the Cuban exiles that had been relied upon for decades at that point to do the interior distribution and the mafia and all that. So Pablo Escobar also didn't like laundering all of his money t…”

CIA assassinated Pablo Escobar host_asserted ▶ 1:00:07

“because none of that was allowed. And of course, we know that they assassinated Pablo Escobar as a result of him not coloring inside the lines as well. This is just what they do. And then if they actu…”

CIA recruited Drug Enforcement Administration book_quoted ▶ 1:05:43

“um good friend douglas valentine you know in when you mention the dea connections to cia i think it's in his second book i don't i can't whether it's strength of the will for strength of the pack wher…”

CIA founded Pentagon book_quoted ▶ 1:10:20

“I've been creating this phrase, kind of historical-CIA. And it sounds kind of pretentious, perhaps. Hard to imagine, I know. But what I'm trying to say is that, you know, you have these long history o…”

USAID front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:14:32

“this organization has infiltrated every aspect of our institutions in the United States. And when you have the very institutions themselves, like USAID saying, yeah, we just took over overtly what the…”

Nelson Rockefeller headed Museum of Modern Art host_asserted ▶ 1:17:47

“even subsidizing their work behind their backs in the New York City Museum of Modern Art, presided by Nelson Rockefeller, and so forth. I mean, that's a huge story, and we have to go down that rabbit …”

CIA funded Museum of Modern Art host_asserted ▶ 1:17:47

Congress for Cultural Freedom front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:18:07

“They don't even hide it anymore. It's so amazing. Yeah. So we've talked about that. They had an actual CIA front called the Congress of Cultural Freedom that they set up.…”

CIA funded Congress for Cultural Freedom host_asserted ▶ 1:18:07

“They don't even hide it anymore. It's so amazing. Yeah. So we've talked about that. They had an actual CIA front called the Congress of Cultural Freedom that they set up.…”

CIA funded Biennale in Venice host_asserted ▶ 1:18:48

“all artists, authors, filmmakers, actual artists. The venues, like the Biennale in Venice and so forth. And the, Nelson Rockefeller and his mother was the proprietaries of that, or proprietors of that…”

Ford Foundation funded Congress for Cultural Freedom host_asserted ▶ 1:19:18

“co-opting. And a lot of this is funded in addition to CIA covert funding, but a lot of it is funded by the Rockefeller Foundation and many of the other Ford Foundation. And this was all exposed back i…”

Rockefeller Foundation funded Congress for Cultural Freedom host_asserted ▶ 1:19:18

CIA trafficked Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:23:03

“And most of that generates around, obviously, Operation Gladio. That's kind of our specialty. And the drug trafficking network that enabled it by the generation of covert funding through the use of dr…”

CIA funded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:23:03