The Colonel’s Corner The Devil’s Chessboard Part 8

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0:00 Oh, my gosh. Good afternoon, Colonel. Good afternoon. I was having too much fun watching those ice videos of them dragging the people out. And when they carried her hog tied over to the vehicle, that was pretty great. Oh, my gosh. Okay, so enough of that fun. All right. Let me get live over here on Rumble. So, well, Bridget, you were right.

0:41 about um x suppressing my account holy crap i'm not saying i'm always right but i knew this holy crap it was really bad but lb sent me a message and it's something that you know i know we used to do in the beginning and i haven't done in a very long time uh i don't know if you have to do it or i have to do it or whatever but you remember those lists

1:09 we used to go through in the very beginning and make sure that we weren't on he said you need to go through your list and block anybody who's putting you on a list and bots will do it and they swarm on you and then your account gets majorly suppressed well I agree with that and we can work on that tonight or tomorrow but it actually listed things that they

1:46 you just muted or something they assume that the international syndicate was anti-semitic and what cracks me up about that is that just shows they're the the people that are um pulling the strings no they're the ones that they're they're making people be anti-semitic by cap capturing

2:17 the control of words right that does not endear anybody to a cause or support your narrative if every time somebody says something that you can vaguely twist around um and just make an assumption that it's anti-semitic it actually goes against the thought that you have open thoughts free speech right so

2:47 Free speech unless it rocks the boat. Again, it goes back to the old echo chamber. It's crazy. And Bridget knows better than anybody behind the scenes when we talk. Understanding how critical it is to tell truth without being labeled.

3:12 That I have been, and I'm not saying that I withhold any information because you guys know I don't, but I am very careful about the information and how I present it. So that exact thing doesn't happen. And for them to then take a phrase, which I have defined repeatedly for exactly what it is and make that assumption, I cannot tell you how that pisses me off.

3:45 But anyway. Yeah. And even making sure that everything is verifiable, documented. Every claim that we make is a hundred times documented on multiple different, from multiple different authors, multiple different sources. We're very, in fact, a lot of people, you know, bailed because of that, you know, because we wouldn't go down the rabbit trail. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

4:14 If I may add to that, Colonel? Sure. Go ahead. I went round and round with Brock trying to figure out what it was that X thought made you, X actually throttled you for. And all I was getting back from Brock were replies concerning your complaints about getting throttled. Finally, I trapped Brock and said,

4:49 I don't care about her complaints. I want to know what you did or what X did to throttle her and why. And it comes back and I get this, well, she's basically calling you a conspiracy theorist and this, that, and the other to fall into certain buckets. And I said,

5:21 Finally, I asked Grok whether or not, and this is funny, is X throttling people for being conspiracy theorists, this, that, and the other. And Grok came back and said, yes. So in my message that I posted, I said, I told the law, you didn't clean this stuff up concerning January.

5:51 j6 or or the election 2020 or uh any of the things that we were being covid you name it that algorithm is still there so i don't i'm not even talking about and and i appreciate um your comments but i'm not even talking about conspiracy theories when i um ask

6:24 if any of the content that I post is provifiable wrong. He said, no, every single thing is sourced. So them labeling me a conspiracy theory for writing facts, just facts. And they gave a litany of things. And one of the things was I'm anti-government for calling for the

6:56 unfunding of the National Endowment for Democracy. It's a draft law right now. It has already been submitted. That anti-government. So they are looking for anything that you post to label you anti-something. And I can call for the abolishment of the CIA.

7:22 I can call for the abolishment of the National Endowment for Democracy. It's my fucking taxpayer dollars that's funding it. I can say I don't want to fund it. That doesn't make me anti-government. That doesn't make me a radical. That makes me a steward of my money. What's even funnier is it really harkens back to where we started this journey and the anti-communism. Which is another label. Right. Even Elon.

7:56 has advocated for dismantling certain government agencies. So I don't see why that's happened when he's not being throttled. Well, I'm sure his account is not throttled. But anyway, we're going to move on because it pisses me off. All right, we're going to get to our book, The Devil's Chessboard. We're on chapter eight. This chapter is called The Scoundrel Time.

8:30 As if all of the other stuff that we've learned about Alan Dulles wasn't bad enough. We're going to learn some more. In August 1947, Richard Nixon, freshman congressman from Southern California, arrived in New York City to board the luxurious Queen Mary for a fact-finding tour of war-ravaged Europe. He would later call one of the greatest thrills of his life.

9:02 Nixon parents came to see him off before the ocean liner embarked. The family took in a performance of Oklahoma. The young congressman was part of a 19-member delegation chaired by Representative Christian Harder, a patriarch of the Republican Party from Massachusetts, tasked with investigating the devastation of the war.

9:28 President Truman hoped the bipartisan delegation well-publicized trip would help him win congressional approval of the Marshall Plan. You know, that thing that jump-funded the Operation Gladio? His ambitious multi-billion dollar aid package to reconstruct Europe. Truman's sweeping proposal was generating stiff opposition from GOP conservatives.

9:58 At home in Whittier, California, one of the conservative businessmen who had helped pave Richard Nixon's successful entry into politics the previous year warned the young congressman not to be taken in by the slick State Department types during his European junket. The country could only rid itself of hangover philosophies.

10:23 of the New Deal if Republican congressmen like Nixon were wise enough to refuse to be drawn into support of a dangerous, unworkable, and profoundly inflationary foreign policy. Harder, a Boston Brahmin who had married an heir to the Standard Oil fortune, was part of the bipartisan internationalist political elite who rejected this type of thinking as narrow-minded and isolationist.

10:52 Harder's circle saw the Marshall Plan not only as an essential antidote for the growing appeal of communism in poverty-stricken Western Europe, but as a financial boom to American export industries and international banks, which would profit enormously from the revival of European markets. Harder asked one of his oldest friends to accompany the delegation, none other than Alan Dulles.

11:20 a man who shared his views and was well known for the power of persuasion. Dulles had another motive for backing the Marshall Plan. He and Frank Wisner would later use funds skimmed from the program to finance their anti-Soviet operations in Europe, meaning Gladio. As young diplomats in Bern during World War I, Dulles and Harder had shared the joy of bachelor life.

11:48 Now that Harder's committees round-trip transatlantic journey and lengthy tour of Europe, a political expedition that would stretch for longer than two months would give Dollison Harder an ample opportunity to win over skeptics like Richard Nixon. The opulent accommodations on board Queen Mary was a far cry from the drab veterans halls and school auditoriums where Nixon had been spending his days.

12:17 Just a few months earlier on the campaign trail, Nixon was quoted as saying, quote, this will be no junket. It will be no cross-Atlantic cocktail party, unquote. But in between delegation meetings, the luxurious liner offered the wealth of diversions from its grand three-story dining room to its elegant tiled swimming pool to its art deco style observation bar with dazzling ocean views.

12:48 The storied cruise ship had hosted the likes of Clark Gable, Greta Garbo, Fred Astaire, Winston Churchill, and General Eisenhower. It was all heady stuff for the 34-year-old Nixon. Nixon's all-consuming ambition was fueled by resentment and envy by the sense that he would always be excluded from the top decks where men like Alan Dulles and Christian Harder belonged.

13:17 When Nixon was finishing law school at Duke University in 1937, he spent a frigid Christmas week in New York searching for a starting position at a prestigious Wall Street firm. He managed to get an appointment at Sullivan and Cromwell, the firm of his dreams. As he waited in the lobby, he marveled at the luxuriousness of it.

13:40 but he did not meet the Dulles brothers during the job interview and Sullivan and Cromwell, which like all top New York firms of the day, drew their young talent almost exclusively from the Ivy League. They showed no interest in Nixon at all. Nixon, who could only afford a room at the Sloan House YMCA on 34th Street during his week-long job hunt, felt a bitter sense of rejection by the time he returned to school.

14:09 He was not at all charmed by New York. Ten years later, being wined and dined on the Queen Mary in the same privileged company as Alan Dulles was amazing to him. The spymaster and harder took the young congressman under the wing during the ocean crossing. They schooled him about the importance of foreign aid as a facilitator to U.S. economic and political interest.

14:35 By the time the delegation returned to the U.S. in early October, Nixon was fully on board as a supporter of the Marshall Plan. The congressman's new enthusiasm for Truman's ambitious proposal did not go down well with his conservative supporters at home. But Nixon was shrewd enough to figure out that senior members of the GOP East Coast elite, like Dulles and Harder, could be of more benefit to him than his constituents.

15:03 The political relationship forged between the rising politician from California and Dulles' East Coast Circle would become one of the most significant partnerships of the post-war era. Nixon grew into a potent political weapon for the Dulles Group, a cunning operator who managed to accrue solidly conservative credentials with the Republican Party's popular base.

15:30 dependably serving the interest of the GOP privileged leadership class. Together, the Dulles Circle and Richard Nixon would bring about a sharp rightward shift in the nation's politics, driving out the surviving element of the New Deal regime in Washington and establishing a new ruling order that was much more in tune with the Dulles Circle's financial interest.

15:56 The Dulles-Nixon alliance proved masterful at exploiting the Cold War panic that gripped the nation, using it to root out Rooseveltian true believers from government, along with a few genuine communist infiltrators who posed a marginal threat to national security. When Washington's anti-communist witch hunt raged out of control and threatened to consume even those who had lit the flame, Nixon once again

16:25 proved to be of great use to Dulles, working with him to keep the Inferno within safe boundaries. Nixon won the patronage of the Kingmakers in the Dulles Circle, ensuring his political steady rise in the Washington elite. Years later, after Nixon's climb to power was stalled by his loss to JFK in the 1960 presidential election,

16:52 Dulles sent Nixon a warm letter reminiscing about their relationship and noting, we have worked together since the days of the mission on the Marshall Plan. The Dulles-Nixon alliance actually preceded their voyage on the Queen Mary, but the spymaster was understandably loath to officially record its true origins. According to John Loftus, the former DOJ Nazi hunter, the two men first came in contact in late 1945 when...

17:22 Richard Nixon was a young naval officer scuttling up and down the East Coast, wrapping up war-related business for the Navy. While sifting through military paperwork, Nixon came across an eye-opening Nazi document that had been shipped to an old torpedo factory on the Virginia side of the Potomac. Some of these documents revealed that the Dulles brothers had helped launder Nazi funds during the war. Loftus.

17:51 who cites confidential intelligence sources, which means there's no verification of it, alleged that Dulles and Nixon proceeded to cut a deal. John Loftus said, Allen Dulles told him to keep quiet about what he had seen, and in return, Dulles arranged to finance the young man's first congressional campaign against Jerry Voorhis, V-O-O-R-H-I-S.

18:22 Dulles and his clients in the banking and oil industry had ample reason to target Voris. He was a five-term Democratic congressman and ardent new dealer from Nixon's home district in Southern California. The crusading congressman was particularly troublesome thorn in the sides of Wall Street and big oil. Voris shook the banking industry by pushing for the federal government to take over the nation's privately owned.

18:51 Regional Federal Reserve Banks, a radical proposal that briefly won President Roosevelt's support, but ultimately failed to overcome the banking lobby. Boris was more successful in his efforts to curb the power of the major oil companies. In 1943, after learning that the Navy was about to grant Standard Oil exclusive drilling rights in the Elk

19:19 Hills Naval Reserve in Central California, Voris exposed the sweetheart deal and succeeded in blocking it. The congressman earned yet more of the oil industry raft by taking aim at one of the industry's most cherished tax breaks, the oil depletion allowance, and by stopping offshore drilling plans along the California coast. Voris also posed a direct legal threat.

19:48 to the Dulles brothers through his efforts to shine a light on the wartime collusion between Sullivan and Cromwell, clients like Standard Oil, DuPont Chemical, and the Nazi cartels of IG Farben. Voris further unnerved the Dulles circle by demanding a congressional investigation into the controversial Bank of International Settlements, charging that the bank president, Thomas McKittrick,

20:16 A close associate of the Dulles brothers was a Nazi collaborator, which he was. Corporate America viewed Washington politicians like Voris as personification of their New Deal nightmare. In his mid-40s, Voris had the granite jaw good looks of a movie star. He also combined the same upper class breeding and populist instincts that made Roosevelt such a formidable threat.

20:46 The son of an automobile executive, Boers was educated at Hotchkiss School in Yale. But as a young man, he rejected the privileged background, marrying a social worker, going to work on the Ford assembly line, and basically becoming a socialist. He changed his registration to the Democrat Party in 1934 when he entered California politics, but his congressional voting record demonstrated he was definitely

21:15 A Democrat. In 1944, Boris published a book titled Beyond Victory, making clear that as a leader of the Progressive Caucus in Congress, he was determined to keep pushing for ambitious reforms in post-war America. Boris set alarms through the ranks of his corporate foes by calling for the nationalization of the transportation, energy, and utility industries, as well as a sweeping banking reform.

21:44 He wanted to create a national credit union to compete with private banks and to expand the social security system as a way to establish a nationwide minimum income. In other words, universal income. Voris' business opponents began searching for a candidate to unseat him. While still in uniform, Nixon was recruited to run against the popular progressive by Herman Perry.

22:14 a family friend who managed the Bank of America's Whittier branch. Nixon later insisted that no powerful interest was behind his political debut, just typical representation of the Southern California middle class, an auto dealer, a bank manager, blah, blah, blah. But Voris knew the truth. He later wrote an unpublished memoir that he had been targeted by the East Coast bankers and oilmen.

22:42 who saw him as one of the most dangerous men in Washington. In the fall of 1945, according to Voris, one major New York banker flew to Southern California where he sat down and met local bankers. Nixon knew that it would take a large campaign war chest to beat the five-time Voris. He also made clear that he was interested in running for office if it meant he was not interested if it meant taking a pay cut. Republican business

23:12 circles in New York and Los Angeles quickly rallied to make the campaign against Forrest worth the effort. An executive for Gladding McBean, a major ceramics manufacturer whose chairman sat on the Standard Oil board, later recalled how the corporate message on behalf of Nixon was delivered. At a meeting of 75 executives at the exclusive, oh hey,

23:41 California resort. The president of Gladding, McBean, touted the young man's fresh out of the Navy who had been lined up for the congressional race. Smart as all get out, he said. Just what we need to get rid of Jerry Boris. He says he can't live on a congressman's salary. Needs a lot more than that to match what he knows he can make in the private law practice. The boy needs cash.

24:10 to make up the difference. We're going to help. Gladding McBean became a key generator of cash for Nixon, shaking down its own executives for campaign donations and spreading the word to other corporate donors. The company president demanded that his fellow executives deliver the money in cash. We just got to get rid of that pinko vorus, he said. The strong arm appeal worked. Gladding McBean alone raised at least $5,000.

24:40 keep in mind this is a long time ago, from its executive ranks in the equivalent of over 65,000 today. Together, Nixon's corporate backers amassed a campaign big enough to engulf the world, as Gladding McBean's financial officer said. Gladding McBean had a modest enough corporate profile to escape the scrutiny of election officials, but his board of directors boasted a variety of high-profile connections.

25:09 in the political and financial world. One director, Los Angeles corporate attorney Herman Flagler, had worked with Alan Dulles in post-war Germany and would later serve on his brother's State Department legal advisor team. The Nixon-Vores contest took place on the opposite side of the country from the East Coast power centers to a remote California district.

25:37 where Orange Grove still dominated the landscape. As the congressional race heated up, it became clear to Nixon's wealthy supporters that they had backed the right man to unseat Boris. The Republican challenger ran a ruthless campaign, cutting up the incumbent as an ineffective left-wing dreamer, a Communist Party sympathizer, and a tool of the red-dominated labor unions, none of which was true.

26:06 In fact, Boris had long battled against the Communist Party encroachment in liberal organizations and had even spearheaded a 1940 bill requiring the registration of political groups that affiliated with foreign powers, a law aimed at much of the Moscow-dominated CPUSA as it was against the pro-Hitler German-American Bund. But in Nixon's skilled hands,

26:35 Boris' support for the New Deal programs like school lunches became evidence of his obedience to the Communist Party. Now imagine today where basically school lunches are free. Back then, it was a sign of being a communist country. Shows you how far we've come. In the final stretch of the campaign, Nixon released one last cloud of poison. Voters throughout the district began receiving anonymous phone calls.

27:05 which turned out to emanate from Nixon's campaign. This is a friend of yours. This is what the phone call said. This is a friend of yours, but I can't tell you who I am. Did you know that Jerry Boris is a communist? The uniform conservative Southern California press, including the LA Times, echoed Nixon's baseless charges against Boris and enthusiastically endorsed the Republican candidate.

27:34 On election day, Nixon rolled to an impressive victory with a 56% of the vote. Boris was so dismayed by the experience that he abandoned political life for the rest of his life. An outraged Boris aide later confronted Nixon. Quote, of course I knew Jerry Boris wasn't a communist, Nixon told him. I had to win.

28:01 That's the thing you don't understand. The important thing is to win. You're naive. As promised, Nixon was well compensated for his efforts. When he and his family embarked for Washington, they took with them $10,000, which is the equivalent of $130,000 today, a new Ford, a generous life insurance policy. Nixon also arrived in the nation's capital with a game plan for Republican success.

28:30 That would embolden the likes of Senator Joseph McCarthy and change American history. Nixon's bare-knuckle race against Boris was a political overture of a new era. On August 11, 1948, a warm, sticky evening in New York, Representative Richard Nixon walked into the lobby of the Roosevelt Hotel, the grand midtown palace named after Teddy.

29:00 not FDR, and took the elevator up to the 15th floor where Governor Tom Dewey, the Republican candidate for president, kept a sweep. The freshman congressman was once again about to demonstrate his value to the Dulles brothers. Nixon carried a briefcase of congressional testimony of two men, Alger Hess and Whitaker Chambers.

29:27 whose epic duel would become one of the defining public spectacles of the Cold War. Chambers, a senior writer and editor at Time magazine owned by Henry Luce, Mr. CIA adjacent, right-leaning publishing empire had ignited a firestorm by alleging that he had worked as a courier for a Soviet spy ring in Washington.

29:57 during the 1930s, a ring that included Alger Hiss. The resounding denial by Hiss, a former senior ranking Roosevelt State Department official, was so persuasively delivered that the notorious House Un-American Activities Committee on which Nixon served seemed on the verge of terminating the investigation. When the committee later reconvened in executive session after Hiss's performance,

30:27 Nixon recalled his fellow congressmen were in a virtual state of shock. Furious committee members turned on the staff, berating them for not thoroughly bedding chambers before putting them on the stand. We've been had, we're ruined, moaned one Republican, but Nixon stood firm. If the committee shut down its probe of alleged communists in the federal government, he argued, far from rescuing the committee's

30:58 reputation, it would probably destroy it for good. It would be a public confession that we were incompetent and reckless. His impassioned plea succeeded in steadying the committee's nerves and they agreed to carry on. But Nixon knew that before the committee resumed for public hearings, he needed to get outside help if the committee was to prevail in the arena of popular opinion. His case, Nixon later wrote in his

31:27 memoir, Six Crises, was one of the defining moments of his career. Nixon was often wracked by self-doubt, and this was one of those contests that brought his deepest anxieties out. Nixon's antagonist boasted all of the credentials that had eluded him in life. Hiss had been one of the most brilliant law students at Harvard.

31:56 After graduating, he was picked to serve as a law clerk for Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, a living legend. Hiss quickly became one of the rising stars in the Roosevelt administration, capping his Washington career by accompanying FDR on his final summit to Yalta and playing a role in the formation of the United Nations. When he appeared before the committee, Hiss

32:26 A striking impression, thin, handsome, smartly dressed, and self-assured. Even Nixon had to admit that his performance was a striking contrast to his accuser's lackluster appearance before the committee. Chambers was short and pudgy. His clothes were unpressed. His shirt collar was curled up over his jacket. He spoke monotonely. Hiss insisted that he had never met

32:53 anyone named Whitaker Chambers. And he and the rumpled Chambers seemed to come from some different world that wouldn't have made it easy to believe anyway. But it was Chambers whom Nixon found convincing. He simply knew too many details about his personal life. And that was something that this sad sack, a troubled but intelligent man who seemed to exude a strange mix.

33:22 of admiration, envy, and resentment towards Hiss that strongly resonated with Nixon. Nixon quickly emerged as Hiss's most dangerous inquisitor, but Hiss held his ground under the young congressman's relentless questioning, slightly taking aim at the most vulnerable part of his psyche. I am a graduate of Harvard Law School, he said. He let that sink in for a second, and then he fired.

33:50 Nixon, a gaze, and continued, and I believe yours was wittier. It was an expertly aimed harpoon, certain to deeply wound the man who was so obviously afflicted with this class envy. It absolutely ripped Nixon apart, recalled Robert Stripling, the chief investigator. I realized from that moment on he could not stand his.

34:20 Nixon knew that he was facing a formidable foe. Hiss clearly had the Washington press on his side, as well as the White House. While the committee was interrogating him, President Truman told a press conference that the committee spy scare was nothing more than a red herring to divert Washington from its important business. Hiss's testimony was full of references to leading political personalities, which whom

34:48 He was on a familiar basis, and they weren't all Democrats. The biggest name he dropped was John Foster Dulles. It produced a mighty echo in the caucus room. His reminded the committee that it was the Republicans' wise man who had offered him the current position as president of the prestigious Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, where Foster Dulles served as chairman of the board.

35:18 Nixon was well aware that Hiss, who accepted Foster Dulles' offer and took over Carnegie Endowment in January of 1947, belonged to the Washington aristocracy that ascended party lines. But accusing Alger Hiss of being a traitor to his country, Nixon was not only threatening the career of well-connected and widely respected public citizen, he was jeopardizing the reputation of Hiss' prominent.

35:48 patrons, powerful men like the Dulles brothers, whom Nixon was counting on to advance his own career. When he phoned Foster Dulles at his Wall Street office on the morning of August 11th, the same office where he had been snubbed as a law student, Nixon understood that it was another make or break moment for him. Foster agreed to meet that evening in Dewey's suite to discuss the Hiss Chambers case.

36:15 The Wall Street attorney appreciated the delicacy of the situation. As Dewey's top foreign advisor, Foster was poised to become the next Secretary of State. The last thing he needed was a Washington tempest that tied him to a Soviet spy. For Nixon, the anxiety hovered around the meeting was heightened by the fact that he had harbored his own doubts about the case against his.

36:41 But men of action learn to conquer those disquieting voices. One of the most trying experiences an individual could go through is the period of doubt, Nixon would later say. A soul searching to determine whether to fight the battle or fly from it. It is in such a period that almost unbearable tensions build up. Tensions that can be relieved only by taking action one way or the other.

37:10 And significantly, it is this period of crisis conduct that separates the leaders from the followers. The failures are those who are so overcome by doubt that they either crack under the pressure or flee. Published in 1962, Six Crises was Nixon's strangely belated answer to the Profiles in Courage, the 1957 Pulitzer Prize winning book by a man.

37:40 who had just beat him for president. Nixon intended his book to be a leadership manual, but it only highlighted his neurosis. Many observers thought Nixon's desperate attempts bordered on hysteria. Writing in his journal after the book's publication, author Schlesinger Jr. called it an orgy in unconscious self-revelation. President Kennedy told Schlesinger

38:11 But as usual, Nixon's opponents underestimated him. Nixon may have suffered a tortured psyche, but it made him acutely sensitive to the nuances of power. He had a Machiavellian brilliance for reading the chessboard and calculating the next move. Nixon walked into the suite at the Roosevelt Hotel that summer night in 1948. He faced a formidable array of power with John Foster Dulles.

38:40 his brother Alan Dulles, Christian Harder, and Wall Street banker C. Douglas Dillon, who later served President Eisenhower in the State Department and Presidents Kennedy and Johnson as Treasury Secretary. These men made up a significant section of the Republican Party ruling elite. If Nixon failed to convince them that he had a solid case,

39:06 Committee would have to close its noisy show and his political career would be wrecked. John Foster felt that Nixon approached the group with a proper sense of humility and no doubt intrepidation. It was clear he did not want to proceed until people like myself had agreed that he really had a case. Nixon knew that he was facing a skeptical audience. Carter, a mentor ever since the Marshall Plan junket, had already told Nixon he didn't think he had a case.

39:38 Harder had checked with his friends at the State Department who assured him Hiss was not a communist. But Nixon was also aware that he came into the room with his own unique leverage. As the leading inquisitor of the Hiss case, an affair whose tentacles laced as far as John Foster Dulles himself, Nixon had the power to upend the Republican presidential campaign. Nixon sat quietly in the suite while the Dulles brothers carefully read,

40:08 through the Hiss and Chambers transcripts. When they were done, Foster got to his feet and began pacing the room with his hands clasped behind him. The brothers realized Nixon was right and they had a problem. There's no question about it, Foster frowned. It's almost impossible to believe, but Chambers knows Hiss. The Republican wise men took Nixon into their confidence and once again, the ambitious young politician came to mutual.

40:37 convenient arrangements with a dullest circle. It was another significant step for Nixon through the portals of power. With the Republican brain trust full support, Nixon would continue his aggressive pursuit of his while keeping the spotlight carefully away from John Foster and other GOP illuminaries who were tied to the accused man.

40:58 Meanwhile, Foster quickly moved to distance himself from Hiss, pressuring him from behind the scenes to resign from the Carnegie endowment post, while Allen fed incriminating intelligence to Nixon to bolster the case. Some of the confidential information about Hiss likely came from the Verona Project, an Army intelligence program that had been set up in 1943 to decrypt Soviet spy agency messages.

41:25 The Verona project was so top secret that it was kept hidden from President Truman, but the deeply wired Dulles might have enjoyed access to it. Nixon was impressed by the Dulles brothers' bold decision to politically exploit the Hiss affair rather than run from it. The committee investigation could have been acutely embarrassing for John Foster. Nixon later noted,

41:54 could have suggested that I delay the proceedings until after the election. But instead, with Nixon's help, they turned the Hiss case to their advantage, with Dewey being against the Roosevelt and Truman administration that had allowed communists to penetrate the government. The meeting at the Roosevelt Hotel proved a turning point. For the next decade, Republicans would use the Cold War hysteria, not just to indict Communist Party members.

42:23 and sympathizers as traders, but to brand the entire New Deal legacy as un-American. Even former high-ranking New Dealers with impeccable credentials like Alger Hiss would be fair game. The age of paranoia brought out Nixon's brilliance as a political performer. He had a deep instinct for playing on the public's darkest fears. Robert Stripling, his right-hand man on the committee,

42:53 came to believe that there was no genuine ideological passion in Nixon's pursuit of the traitor, Hiss, just the same cold-blooded calculation he had brought to his campaign with Jerry Boris. He was no more concerned about whether Hiss was a communist than a billy goat, he would later say. The young politician clearly had developed deeply felt convictions about the brutality of the communist system.

43:20 When his Marshall Plan tour took him to Greece, Nixon was horrified to meet a young woman whose left breast had been hacked off by the quote-unquote communist guerrillas, which we now know was Operation Gladio in Greece. He returned from the trip with a firm belief that the communist regimes and the conviction that they also understood force, a view that he would modify when he became president and enjoyed both the Soviet Union and China.

43:51 diplomacy. But at home, Nixon's anti-communists reeked of political cynicism, earning him the nickname Tricky Dick. He smeared his opponents with reckless abandon, labeling them as reds or dupes. In the case of his 1950 senatorial opponent, Helen Hagen Douglas, a woman who was pink down to her underwear, Nixon said.

44:19 Nixon never proved that Hiss was a card-carrying communist or Soviet agent, but with typical hyperbole, he treated him like he was a mortal threat to the American way of life. The highlight of Nixon's obsession was the pursuit of Hiss came when Chambers dramatically led the committee investigators to a pumpkin patch at his Maryland farm, where he procured a hollowed-out pumpkin containing 65 pages of retyped

44:48 State Department documents, four pages of copied government documents in Hiss's handwriting, and five rolls of classified film, all of which Chambers claimed had been slipped to him by Hiss in 1938. Nixon staged a dramatic return to Washington from the Caribbean vacation cruise with the help of the Coast Guard rescue plane in order to publicize the so-called pumpkin papers.

45:16 The documents, which seemed to prove that Hiss did have an espionage connection to Chambers, sealed the diplomat's fate. He was indicted in December 1948 by a federal grand jury for lying to Congress. No mention of that guy having classified information in a pumpkin patch. Hiss continued to vigorously deny his guilt, insisting that the pumpkin papers had been forged by Chambers.

45:42 Neither he nor his wife, Priscilla, could have retyped the State Department documents, said Hiss, because they had given away the Woodstock model typewriter that they allegedly used to copy the classified memos before 1938. Four jury members at his first deadlock trial believed Hiss, agreeing that someone other than Hiss or his wife had retyped the State Department documents. Hiss's suspicion

46:11 That he was framed was given further credence years later by John Dean, the former White House attorney who became a key witness in the Watergate scandal that ended the Nixon presidency. Writing in his memoirs, Blind Ambition, Dean alleged that Nixon told fellow White House aide Charles Coulson, we built the typewriter in his case, implying

46:35 With the help of FBI technicians, Nixon had used a replica of the Woodstock machine to trap his prey. Hiss's second trial did not go in his favor. Among the witnesses who testified against him was none other than John Foster Dulles, who disputed Hiss's recollection of the events leading to his resignation from the Carnegie. That was the final nail in Hiss's coffin from his former patron.

47:04 In January of 1950, Hiss was convicted of perjury and sentenced to federal prison where he would serve three and a half years. Meanwhile, Chambers, a man who had launched his writing career by working for the Communist Party press, continued to enjoy a new life for the conservative media, first in Henry Luce's plush Time Life magazine, which again is connected to the CIA. So this guy was actually rewarded for his role in framing Hiss.

47:35 And then moving on to none other than CIA adjacent William Buckley at the National Review. For Nixon, the Washington spy spectacle demonstrated not only the moral turpitude of Alger Hiss, but the intellectual bankruptcy of the liberal elite. His successful pursuit of Hiss brought him national fame. Nixon later observed, but it also attracted an unparalleled venom.

48:07 and irrational fury of the liberal intelligentsia, which saw Hiss as a New Deal icon. He was convinced that he would never be forgiven by a substantial segment of the press and intellectual community for exposing how the New Deal was compromised by communist underground. Nixon brooded that it was a hatred and hostility that might have cost him the 1960 presidential election. You think?

48:37 Chambers, too, saw his decision to incriminate Hiss as part of a broader assault on the New Deal-style government and its drift towards socialism. In his 1952 memoirs, witness Chambers conflated the Roosevelt presidency with the evils of communist rule. The New Deal, he wrote, was not a revolution by violence. It was a revolution by bookkeeping and lawmaking.

49:05 Both sides of revolution, he argued, led you to the same place. The Cold War furies that Nixon and the Dulles brothers helped unleash scoured all nuance and charity from the American politics. They were indeed a few committed communist agents embedded here or there in the Roosevelt bureaucracy, such as Nathan Silvermaster, a Russian-born economist in the War Department.

49:35 board, or excuse me, the war production board during World War II, who was dedicated to the dream of a Soviet America. But by far the more common traders were men like Hiss, well-educated progressive idealist. They were the type who had come of age after the stock market crash of 1929 and had grown sick of hands-off government that allowed encampments of hungry and homeless people to spring up all over the country.

50:05 My how times changed. When Roosevelt was elected in 1932 and Hiss received a telegram from Felix Frankfurter, the former Harvard law professor and advisor to FDR, urging him to come back to work for the new administration on an emergency basis. Hiss knew that he had to sign up. It was a call to arms, being told that the nation was in danger. I think many of us who went down to Washington in those first few weeks.

50:35 thought ourselves as civilian militia going down for a real emergency. Roosevelt, in his first inauguration address, used the sacrifice of war as an analogy. In despair over the enormous human suffering of the Depression with some 15 million jobless people, which was a quarter of the U.S. workforce, some of the New Dealers found themselves drawn, at least for a time, to fixing that problem.

51:03 Some were intrigued by the Soviet economy experience, which appeared at least comparatively functional and thought their own ailing capitalist system might learn a thing or two. During World War II, when the Roosevelt administration urged Americans to regard the Russians as comrades in arms, some of these federal officials looked for ways to strengthen these bonds by sharing information with our allies.

51:29 But while some of these men and women crossed the line, most saw themselves as patriots whose dreams for a future was deeply rooted in American tradition. And what I find most interesting about this is they were our allies. And they were, after the war, painted as communist sympathizers for literally working with our allies. So if we decided after World War II that we hated the British,

51:58 and then tried people for working with the British as part of some conspiracy, it would be ludicrous. To this day, Alger Hiss, who was convicted of perjury, not treason, remains a conundrum. His guilt or innocence still hotly debated among ideological lines. When the Verona decrypts were declassified in the 1990s, some saw smoking gun proof of his guilt.

52:28 while others argued that the case was only entered an even murkier stage. To the end, Hiss will likely be seen as a perplexing mixed bag, a fundamentally loyal American who had associated with left-wing circles in Washington and was not entirely forthcoming with Congress, but was never a serious threat to national security. The least credible aspect

52:55 of Hiss's testimony was his insistence that he had never known an individual by the name of Whitaker Chambers. When Nixon later staged a face-to-face meeting between the two, Hiss finally acknowledged that he had known Chambers under a different name, and then only briefly in 1935. But the evidence pointed to a more intricate relationship. The political

53:24 The complexities of the Hiss case was further entangled by an interpersonal complication. Although a married man with children, Chambers confessed to the FBI that he had led a secret homosexual life. I'm sensing a theme in this book. He was clearly enamored with Hiss and his family. In Witness, he wrote that he came to regard Alger and Priscilla Hiss as friends, as close as a man ever makes in life.

53:54 Under questioning from Nixon, Chambers warmly described Hiss, the man whose life he was in the process of ruining, as a man of great simplicity and a great, gentle, sweet character. It was a far cry for how Nixon viewed Hiss. Chambers recounted the final meeting he allegedly had with Hiss when he went to Hiss's Washington home in 1938 to beg.

54:23 the diplomat to leave the Communist Party with a wounded clarity of a man remembering a lover's breakup. Quote, we looked at each other steadily for a moment, believing that we were seeing each other for the last time and knowing that between us lay a torrent. When we turn to walk in a different direction from that torrent, it would be as men whom history left no choice but to be enemies.

54:50 As we hesitated, tears came into Alger Hiss' eyes, the only time I ever saw him so moved. He has denied this publicly and derisively. He should not regret those few tears. As long as men are human and remember our story, they will plead for his humanity, unquote. I'm about to gag. Hiss came to believe that Chambers' accusations against him were those of a rejected suitor.

55:18 Chambers had never made sexual advances towards him, said Hiss, but his attitude towards me and his relations were strange. He had a hostility to the point of jealousy about my wife. My guess is that he had some obscure love attachment. Hiss's reluctance to acknowledge his relationship with his accuser might have been due to his uneasiness about the nature of his involvement. Nixon concluded that Hiss had reciprocated Chambers' passion.

55:48 and that a homosexual drama laid at the heart of it. The true story of the Hiss case Nixon revealed to a congressional confidant on board of his presidential yacht a quarter of essentially later is that Hiss and Chambers were both queers. That's his word, not mine. But whatever human subtleties might have explained the Hiss affair,

56:12 They were drowned to dust by the blunt instrument of Cold War discourse. The investigative apparatus that Nixon and his patrons built in Washington had no way to measure political nuances. Alger Hiss had moved in political circles, viewed as benign in Roosevelt's Washington, but would take on a sinister cast in the Cold War era. Even Alan Dulles had worked with communists during the war.

56:41 After the war, you could remain a communist or socialist in Western Europe and still be granted a place in the democratic arena, but not in Washington. On August 13th, 1948, two days after Nixon met with the Dulles group at the Roosevelt Hotel, the committee show trial, as the hearings were being called, resumed in the old house office building. Once again, the caucus room, with its Greek revival,

57:12 decor was the scene of the media extravaganza. The day's leading witness was a man who many considered the committee's top target, since he had held a considerable more important post in the Roosevelt administration than his. Harry Dexter White was a 55-year-old former government economist whose name meant little to the general public. But as the big thinker,

57:41 In Harry Morgenthau's Treasury Department, White had played a major role in shaping the New Deal policies. Among his top accomplishments were the creation of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, two linchpins of the global financial order that White had widely credited with spearheading.

58:02 White joined forces with the esteemed British economist John Maynard Keynes to hammer out the plans for the world's new financial system. But while Keynes provided substantial intellectual input, it was the political savvy White who was the key to bringing the plans to fruition. White would later be held as arguably the most important U.S. government economist of the 20th century.

58:27 There is little doubt that Harry Dexter White was one of the main topics for conversation along with Alger Hiss at the Roosevelt Hotel. In fact, the Dulles group saw White as a bigger threat to their post-war plans than Hiss. The formidable White was intent on building a new financial order that would be a new deal for the new world.

58:50 With a new global institutions channeling investments to needy countries in ways that produce the broadest public good rather than the private gain. When the Roosevelt administration unveiled the plans for the World Bank and IMF, Secretary Morgenthau declared that the goal was to drive the usury money lenders from the temple of international finance. Not surprisingly, Wall Street banks saw the new institutions.

59:19 which were to be instrumentalities of sovereign governments and not of private financial interests as a danger to new competitors in the global market, which obviously they compromised them too. For the Dulles Group, there was a number of disquieting developments at the Bretton Woods Conference held in New Hampshire in the summer of 1944, where 730 delegates from around the world thrashed out the final plans.

59:49 of the new financial system. Morgenthau and White led a movement at the conference to abolish the Bank of International Settlements, an institution they saw as an instrument of financial collaboration between New York, London, and Nazi Germany. It took a major behind-the-scenes campaign at Bretton Woods, an effort mounted by representatives of Wall Street, the State Department, and the Bank of England to head off Morgenthau-White's assault on the Bank of International Settlements.

1:00:19 which the New Dealers wanted to replace the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. White further unnerved Wall Street and the Republican circle by pushing for the Soviet Union to be integrated into the new international framework. Oh my God! The Treasury Department's financial wizards saw this post-war partnership with the Soviet Union, a nation of vast markets and resources, as a potential enormous boon for the U.S. economy.

1:00:46 which he feared could slip back into depression after the war. White also saw this east-west financial partnership as a way to continue the wartime alliance with Moscow and ensure world peace. There will be none of that. In 1948, the visionary internationalism of Roosevelt's years were being rapidly replaced by the hardening nationalism of the Truman presidency.

1:01:12 Men like Harry White had been driven from Washington, but he still served as a consultant to the IMF, and he was still widely respected. And White still had detailed inside knowledge from his years as Morgenthau's top aide. If the political winds had been blowing in a different direction in 1948, it might well have been men like Foster and Allen Dulles, Thomas McKittrick of the Bank of International Settlements, Walter Teagle.

1:01:40 and William Stamps Farish of Standard Oil instead of the New Dealers like Hiss and White, who were put under investigation to spotlight their treason. But by turning the tables on the New Deal officials such as White, who had long wanted to prosecute these high-level Nazi collaborators, the Dulles Group ensured their own legal protection by seizing the investigative momentum, which is exactly what the Democrats do.

1:02:10 Republicans like Richard Nixon, whom Loftus called Alan Dulles' mouthpiece in Congress, made sure that the Dulles Circle would never have to answer for their wartime actions. By the time Harry Dexter White walked into the packed hearing room on the morning of August 13th, he had been under FBI investigation for seven months. J. Edgar Hoover's agents had tapped his phones.

1:02:34 conducted scores of interviews in a determined effort to find evidence that he was a Russian spy. White's two principal accusers were Chambers and an emotionally unstable alcoholic named Elizabeth Bentley, who had taken Chambers' place as a Soviet spy courier during the wartime. The committee made Bentley, who appeared in front of the committee two weeks before White, one of the star witnesses.

1:03:04 was not a card-carrying communist, but she had stepped in front of the dazzling newsreel lights. Her story grew more dramatic. White was no longer simply a misguided idealist, but a central player in the Nathan Silvermaster spy ring, feeding confidential information to the group. Bentley, however, proved highly problematic witness in the committee.

1:03:29 The former spy admitted she had never met White, and over time, as her alcoholism grew worse, she became an increasingly erratic expert. As the committee billed her a Communist Party machination, as her life spun out of control, Bentley blackmailed the FBI into putting her on his payroll. She would remain a deeply troubled ward of the Bureau for the rest of her life. You and I paid her. An alcoholic.

1:03:59 and liar. She was a witness for hire whom the government investigators would drag into the spotlight between blackouts, car wrecks, and lover quarrels instead of the glamorous red spy queen of the tabloid's media dreams. She was a weak-chinned person and she grew to become a pathetic symbol of the Cold War exhibitionism.

1:04:27 When Chambers testified about White before the committee, he was more circumspect than Bentley. He claimed that he had met White from time to time as a Soviet courier, but he conceded that the Treasury economist was always cautious and never gave him government documents. I cannot say he's a communist, he said. In fact, Chambers seemed to not know what to make of White. His motives always baffled me, he said. Nixon and his fellow committee members

1:04:55 knew that their case against White was weak. Earlier in the year, the former Treasury official had already made a successful appearance before a grand jury in New York that was investigating government subversion. The jury, which would later bring charges against Hiss, found insufficient evidence to indict White. And despite FBI obsessive surveillance of White, even Hoover's intimate colleague, Clyde Tolson,

1:05:21 acknowledged that there was simply not enough proof to label him a Soviet spy and warned the FBI officials that they were making a grave mistake in using that phraseology. In his appearance before the committee, White conducted himself with dignity. The committee's badgering style often brought the worst in witnesses, which many resorted to tactics of outrage in his story.

1:05:46 and hysterics, and others cowered cravenly and surrendered all that was asked of them, including self-respect. But White responded to the committee's questions head-on, and when he felt compelled to enlighten his inquisitors on constitutional principles and the fundamentals of the American legal system, he did so with respect and professional calm. White began his testimony by firmly denying that he had ever been a communist.

1:06:16 This is what he said. I believe in freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of thought, freedom of press, freedom of criticism, and freedom of movement. I believe in the goal of equal opportunity and the right of each individual to follow the calling of his or her own choice and the right of every individual to have an opportunity to develop his capacity to the fullest. I believe in the right and duty of every citizen to work.

1:06:40 4. To expect and to obtain an increasing measure of political, economic, and emotional security for all. I am opposed to discrimination of any form, whether on the grounds of race, color, religion, political belief, or economic status. I believe that freedom of choice of one's representatives in government, untrampled by machine guns, secret police, or a police state. I am opposed to arbitrary and unwarranted use of power or authority from whatever source.

1:07:08 or against an individual or group. I believe the government of law, not of men. I consider these principles sacred. I regard them as a basic fabric of American way of life and I believe in them as living realities and not as words on a document. This is my creed. Those are my principles and I have worked for. Those are the principles that I have prepared in the past to fight for, concluded White.

1:07:36 who had enlisted in the Army during World War I, and I'm prepared to defend at any time in my life if need be. White's statement, a ringing invocation of the embattled New Deal philosophy, was in full retreat in Washington. It evoked a large sustained round of applause from the audience. The former FDR official performance was so self-assured that committee members lunged at ways to rattle him. The committee chairman, J.

1:08:05 Parnell Thomas, a New Jersey Republican who sought to ride the investigation to political glory, but instead ended his career in prison for corruption, was particularly mean to White. For a number of years, the Economist had been grappling with a serious heart condition. The FBI had forced to delay its interrogation of White the previous year after he suffered a heart attack.

1:08:31 Before his committee appearance, he informed the committee of his medical history in a confidential letter. But when White began speaking about his connection to Nathan Silvermaster, explaining that it was a harmless relationship that consisted of recreational activities like playing ping pong, Thomas shocked the room by interjecting a comment about White's illness. For a person who had a severe heart condition,

1:09:00 You certainly can play a lot of sports. He sneered. It was a typical ugly moment for the committee chairman. And when White replied with restraint, pointing out that his athletic days are far behind him, the audience burst in applause. Nixon also got into a losing sparring match with White, clashing with the witness over whether or not the committee hearings were star chamber proceedings. The congressman insisted.

1:09:28 that they did not meet the definition because they were open to the public. But White pointed out that by not denying alleged subversives the right to confront and cross-examine their accusers, the committee veered dangerously close to operating as a tribunal. Congressman White patiently said, I am sure you appreciate that you need to balance the need for conducting a hearing of this kind against the dangers of doing irreparable harm to innocent people.

1:09:58 That is a patient heritage which Americans have, that a man is presumed innocent until proven guilty. And certainly you would be the first to recognize that. In order for a man to have a fair trial, it requires all the rules and regulations of court hearings. Nixon, who had acknowledged that he was locking horns with a rather noted scholar, a man who held degrees from Columbia, Stanford, and Harvard, could only bow in agreement. You are absolutely correct, he told White.

1:10:27 The only committee member who found a weakness in White's story that morning was John McDowell, a Pennsylvania Republican, who suggested that the former Treasury official had kept some suspicious company when he served the Roosevelt administration. Several of the men whom he called good friends, including Silvermaster, were accused spies. McDowell pointed out, in case we proved that these men are all part of an espionage ring, you're placed.

1:10:56 in history is going to be changed considerably, would you not think? It proved to be a prophetic remark since after his death, White would indeed be widely condemned as a spy, a conclusion that was based largely on guilt by association. White was certainly not entirely blameless. As the smartest man in the Secretary Morgenthau's inner council, he had sometimes operated in the Washington arena with reckless arrogance.

1:11:26 He was dismissive of bureaucratic protocols and saw nothing wrong with pursuing his own diplomatic initiatives. As White's biographer, R. Bruce Craig, would conclude, he probably was guilty of a species of espionage, but a fairly benign one. There is no evidence that White handed over classified documents or subverted U.S. policy to correspond with Soviets.

1:11:54 but he was guilty of frequent indiscretions in discussing policy issues with Soviet officials or with the left-wing friends and colleagues. To White, this boldness, and again, Soviets were our allies during this entire time. To White, this boldness was all in service of a higher good. He wanted a harmonious global financial order that included the Soviet Union.

1:12:27 White felt that his communications were in line with those interests, especially his bosses, FDR and Morgenthau. By pursuing this dialogue, he believed he could help rope the Soviets into Roosevelt's New World Order. But White knew that he was taking a risk, especially after FDR's death. White claimed not to know the political affiliations of men he helped bring into the federal government. He didn't ask.

1:12:58 To White, what mattered was whether they were talented economists or not. The fact that most of them were, like him, products of Eastern European and even some Jewish families who had worked hard to climb the academic and professional ladders while maintaining a strong sense of public service only reinforced his bonds with them. Despite the committee's insistence that he disown former colleagues such as Silvermaster, White refused to do so.

1:13:26 You cannot erase seven or eight years of friendship with a man that way unless I see evidence, unless a court declares him guilty. And until he's proven guilty, he's innocent. It is one final heartfelt declaration of principle from White, and it brought forth another eruption from the crowd. White, at pains to avoid coming across as a grandstander, apologized to Thomas. I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. This applause is not my fault.

1:13:55 After concluding his testimony, White left the Capitol for Union Station, where he boarded a train to New Hampshire. He and his wife had recently bought a farm called Blueberry Hill, and he looked forward to some much-needed relaxation after the stress of the FBI investigation, the grand jury investigation, and the committee hearings. On board the train, White felt chest pains, but when he arrived at the local station, he insisted on going to his farm, which lay at the end of a three-mile dirt road.

1:14:24 The following day, he suffered a massive heart attack. Two physicians were summoned, but they declared the patient beyond medical help. He died at his home. For many, White seemed to be the victim of the committee's special sort of tyranny, in the words of one partisan reporter. An unusually passionate editorial in the New York Times condemned the committee for its coarse handling of White.

1:14:49 The committee could not be blamed for his heart attack, stated the editorial, but it could certainly be charged with having aggravated his condition by putting him through the investigative ordeal without due protection of laws. This procedure is not the American way of doing things. It is un-American. But Nixon appeared unfazed by the press fervor. Moving quickly forward with his inquisition of his, who after White's passing would serve as the next best emblem,

1:15:20 of the Rooseveltian treachery. Harry Dexter White's death signified the final collapse of Washington's New Deal order and the unique brand of utopian internationalism that he had championed. It was men like Nixon and Dulles who now moved into the vacuum. All right, we're gonna stop there. That was long and I'm not even done with the chapter, but we'll do it in the next one in our next session.

1:15:54 What happened to Bridget? Oh, there she is. She fell down there. You need to bring her back up. She fell down and can't get back up. All right. Stellar, go ahead. I had no idea how ambitious Nixon was and how corrupt he was. So I'm just really, you know, these MFers, and we'll leave it at that, parasites. Holy cow.

1:16:29 It's fascinating to get, you know, and the one thing about this book, I don't necessarily agree with a lot of the characterization of the kind of simping for FDR because he definitely wanted one world government. But the beauty of this in checking out the quote is,

1:16:58 So much of it is footnoted and in their own words, you know, through later memoirs or whatever. And that's what I found really amazing about the whole book. Let's see, Illini, go ahead. Colonel, yeah, the cross-references here are pretty interesting. And then also with some of the Dulles and IG Farben cross-references.

1:17:25 You know, we spoke earlier, this chapter discusses, I think it's either the Harder or the Hurtner committee that was behind the Marshall Plan, where Richard Nixon discusses this committee as memoirs, RN. I think it's relatively early in the book, probably around like page 50 or 60 or so of the hardcover.

1:17:51 But his telling of it, the first thing is he completely leaves out the fact that this is on the Queen Mary. He says that they're in relatively comfortable accoutrements from the United States, but he says that Europe is in terrible shape as he's explaining a need for the Marshall Plan. He doesn't mention the Dulles brothers are on this thing at all. There's no mention of Rockefeller or any of these kind of connections. You can kind of see the Rockefeller tentacles playing into this.

1:18:20 you know, but, but both with the marriage of, of, um, you know, one of the family members, the chairman of the committee, as well as to the Dulles brothers involvement with it. Yes. Um, that, that, that he's on board, you know, the queen Mary. And then now you factor in finally, of course, you know, these, these, uh, these two spy masters are on board this, what Nixon says in his memoirs.

1:18:49 which isn't in this book. It was in his, like, 77 or 79 memoirs. He said that he did two things. Number one, he was in Trieste in 48, where he was at a hotel. He watched communist protesters march by, raise their fists, and as they were doing it, there was this big explosion, like a bomb went off. Hey, communists.

1:19:18 So that's thing number one. Thing number two, he actually goes on... You're breaking up, Illini. He goes on a plane to the mountains in Greece. Do you hear that? Yes. Plane to the mountains in Greece, visits counter-communist fighters there. Which are CIA. OSS, yes. Dulles must have been on that plane. Yes. So you can see...

1:19:52 Nixon is involved in the early stages of Operation Gladio. They are putting on a show for Nixon, both with the bomb and where they took him in Greece because they were already in Greece of the leftover OSS guys forming the stay-behind units. You're absolutely right. They were putting on a show. Go ahead. The other point is the mention of IG Farben and the Dulles brothers.

1:20:22 And Nixon's kind of general connection with that, if you fast forward 24 years, it's part of IT&T Corporation, International Telephone and Telegraph. It was kind of the international AT&T of the 40s through the 70s. So what Nixon should have been impeached over was the IT&T scandal where he got paid these huge cash payments.

1:20:51 by IT&T Corporation to basically get the DOJ to let go of their monopoly charges against them, number one. And number two, to get involved with the Chilean coup. They're trying to lobby the CIA to overthrow Allende. Through Nixon. You know, the Nixon administration's fingers are totally dirty in all of this. And you actually have him on the phone.

1:21:17 talking about his instructions to Ambassador Corey to basically say, yeah, you get rid of Allende. Yes. So now we know the missing piece of the puzzle. Yes. It's the Dulles brothers are involved with IG Farben and a money laundering during World War II. That's the missing piece of this puzzle for why Nixon's so cozy with these guys and what's going on with this.

1:21:46 with this coup attempt from 70 to 73. Yes. Perfectly said. Let's see. Jeff, go ahead. Hey, Colonel. Good afternoon. I did not want to change the subject because that's one of my favorites, speaking about the old intelligence operation with the Dulles brothers. Yeah, we're not going to change the subject. I don't have a lot of time, so I don't want to change the subject.

1:22:17 Yeah, I just want to tell you they're doing a new history of the jet engine museum for the military flight history here in town. It's going to discuss the jet engines history and all the way through the military. Yeah, we're not going to do that. Okay, but what I wanted to ask you was.

1:22:35 When are we going to allow the A&P mechanic test to be taken by all the military branches so we could fill the positions out here in the commercial industry? I don't know. Aircraft mechanics. I don't know. We need mechanics, and the military provides the best aircraft mechanics for the commercial. I agree. I just wanted to see if there was something you could do to help us. Thank you, Kirby. Thank you. Zen, go ahead.

1:23:06 Hi. Yeah, great space. I got in here like halfway through, so I shared it out so I can go back and listen to it. This time period you're talking about, there's a great book out there called Stalin's War. It's on Audible, and I listened to it, and there was like 35 freaking Soviet spies in FDR's administration.

1:23:37 It talks about, like, for Lindley's, for, like, Stalin was playing everybody like fiddles. And for, like, even two or three years after World War II was over, we were still sending Lindley's shit over to the Soviet Union. But a lot of these names pop up in the book that I was listening that you were talking about. And Stalin was even integral in getting the Japanese to attack the United States at Pearl Harbor.

1:24:08 You remember the Russians and the Japanese fought in 1904, and they were enemies, and they even fought a little bit in 1939. It's just amazing to me. I've listened to this book, but Devil's Chessboard, I haven't. I need to go back and re-listen to it again because I listen to it at night, and I'll fall asleep and then try to go back.

1:24:35 Yeah. I know that feeling. Great space. Thank you. Retribution? I'll yield to Stellar Chick. She's a real tool, and I got something to say, but I'll let Stellar Chick go first. Stellar, I'll refer Donna Saro, that's my wife, to you. And anyway, I'll go after Stellar if it's okay, unless you want me to go now. No, I'd prefer you go now, and then we'll close up with Stellar and SR.

1:25:04 Okay, all I was going to say is Nixon stepping down probably might have saved my life. When Ford took office, and I remember this well, it was in 1973. A lot of people think that Nixon stepped down and then Ford pardoned him for stepping down and Ford became president. But Ford stopped the war in Nam. And I fell in a two-year period where I didn't have to get a draft card.

1:25:30 I was going to join. I was going to join the Air Force because Marines already told me I was going to be theirs. I was going to get drafted. You know, that was the end of the story. But Ford probably, and I hate to say this, but Ford probably, I know he saved me from going to NAMM, but I was going to go in the Air Force. I don't know. But anyway, I was just going to throw that out there. I remember when all that happened. And I'll yield with that. Thank you. Sure. Stellar, go ahead. And then SR is going to close us out because I got to run.

1:26:00 Thank you so much. It was an amazing space. So it almost sounds like Nixon had a whole lot of dirt on the other people. And even though he got impeached, you know, they went after him. He resigned. Yeah. Resigned. Well, weren't they trying to start the impeachment? Yes.

1:26:22 And then he ended up stepping down and it almost sounds like he had a kill switch. And if there was anything else done to him, it would be done. That's why they, to my, because what it sounds like is like he had all the dirt on them and they went after the innocent part. Well, not the innocent part, but not the one, not so bad one, but all the dirt from the OSS, the election. I mean, every, I mean, changing, I mean, every.

1:26:50 The fiat to, you know, going into the fiat, I mean, the war like a hole. Boom. Thank you. Sure. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Carolyn. Thank everyone for attending here on Spaces and on Rumble. You make this one of the best sessions or the best session on the Internet. So anyway, what I was thinking about here is Alger Hiss.

1:27:22 and Whitaker Chambers. And Alger Hiss, who's tried for lying because he didn't know the person, says, well, gee, I knew him under a different name. Yeah. My mind starts clicking here at a moment because Chambers himself, Whitaker Chambers himself, would more than likely use an alias to do all kinds of stuff. Yes. And I'm wondering what those aliases were.

1:27:52 Yep. Yep. Good point. Illini, go ahead. And I got it right, guys. Stellar just reminded me of something, which is Nixon has another sort of quiet conversation. It's not reported on quite as much with Haldeman, like May 8th in the old executive office building where stuff gets real with him.

1:28:18 Nixon always speaks in circles, and he kind of circles around his ideas. And he doesn't really get to the real point sometimes. But he says that there's this whole other set of things that are unfolding besides Watergate that we can't let out of the bag. And he says it to Haldeman. And he talks more in general about the entire system, not just about him. It's going to basically bring the whole system down.

1:28:48 Maybe he's referring to the Houston plan. Maybe he's referring to the IT&T scandal. Maybe he's referring to Yeoman Radford or the Columbia Plaza thing. But he might just be referring back to Dulles. It's kind of funny how all these different story arcs, you know, you kind of get to this midpoint, halfway climax, deep in the halls of the Nixon administration.

1:29:16 And, you know, 71, 72, 73, from what was happening, you know, in the immediate post-war period, you know, 20, 25 years earlier, how all these different characters keep interacting and influencing what's going on in Washington, D.C. And the sad part of it is, is that it appears that some of them were actually collaborating with the Nazis during World War II. The institutional betrayal started back then. Yep, I agree.

1:29:46 Retribution, if you've got something real quick, I got to run. Okay. I was just going to point out, Hillary was one of the attorneys at all this mess, okay, at Watergate. Yeah, until she got fired. Yeah, I'll just make it short and sweet. She introduced Soros at that time, and that's when Soros started coming into the picture, was through Hillary and all this Watergate mess. And I'll end it there, and thanks for having me. Sure. Okay.

1:30:15 I've got to run. It's Wednesday. So got to go have dinner with my family. Anyway, thanks, you guys, for being here. I appreciate it. And we will be back same time tomorrow. I will see you then. Take care. Thank you, Colonel. Thank you, Esa. On a different note, Whitaker Chambers did operate under many alias names. So I wonder what's going on with that. Well, he was a spy.

1:30:44 They all have aliases. Yeah. Okay. Take care, everybody.

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Allen Dulles38 United States32 Richard Nixon25 Harry Dexter White25 Whittaker Chambers25 Alger Hiss25 House Un-American Activities Committee25 Soviet Union20 Jerry Voorhis19 U.S. State Department12 1946 California's 12th congressional district special election10 Los Angeles10 Christian Herter10 Dulles family10 Franklin D. Roosevelt10 Alger Hiss Trial9 Henry Morgenthau Jr.7 Republican Party7 FBI7 Queen Mary6 Bank for International Settlements6 Harry S. Truman6 France5 Roosevelt Hotel5 Elizabeth Bentley5 Marshall Plan5 Alger Hiss case5 Nathan Silvermaster5 New Deal5 World War II4 Standard Oil4 Gladding McBean4 Operation Gladio4 Carnegie Endowment for International Peace4 IG Farben4 J. Parnell Thomas4 J. Edgar Hoover3 Thomas Dewey3 United Kingdom3 U.S. Navy3

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Richard Nixon member_of Republican Party documented ▶ 8:30

“As if all of the other stuff that we've learned about Alan Dulles wasn't bad enough. We're going to learn some more. In August 1947, Richard Nixon, freshman congressman from Southern California, arriv…”

Christian Herter headed Marshall Plan documented ▶ 9:02

“Nixon parents came to see him off before the ocean liner embarked. The family took in a performance of Oklahoma. The young congressman was part of a 19-member delegation chaired by Representative Chri…”

Frank Wisner financed_via Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 11:20

“a man who shared his views and was well known for the power of persuasion. Dulles had another motive for backing the Marshall Plan. He and Frank Wisner would later use funds skimmed from the program t…”

Allen Dulles financed_via Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 11:20

Allen Dulles recruited Richard Nixon book_quoted ▶ 14:09

“He was not at all charmed by New York. Ten years later, being wined and dined on the Queen Mary in the same privileged company as Alan Dulles was amazing to him. The spymaster and harder took the youn…”

Richard Nixon supported Marshall Plan documented ▶ 14:35

“By the time the delegation returned to the U.S. in early October, Nixon was fully on board as a supporter of the Marshall Plan. The congressman's new enthusiasm for Truman's ambitious proposal did not…”

Richard Nixon member_of Dulles family book_quoted ▶ 15:30

“dependably serving the interest of the GOP privileged leadership class. Together, the Dulles Circle and Richard Nixon would bring about a sharp rightward shift in the nation's politics, driving out th…”

Allen Dulles laundered_money_for IG Farben guest_asserted ▶ 17:22

“Richard Nixon was a young naval officer scuttling up and down the East Coast, wrapping up war-related business for the Navy. While sifting through military paperwork, Nixon came across an eye-opening …”

Allen Dulles financed_via Richard Nixon guest_asserted ▶ 17:51

“who cites confidential intelligence sources, which means there's no verification of it, alleged that Dulles and Nixon proceeded to cut a deal. John Loftus said, Allen Dulles told him to keep quiet abo…”

Jerry Voorhis exposed Standard Oil documented ▶ 19:19

“Hills Naval Reserve in Central California, Voris exposed the sweetheart deal and succeeded in blocking it. The congressman earned yet more of the oil industry raft by taking aim at one of the industry…”

Jerry Voorhis exposed Sullivan & Cromwell documented ▶ 19:48

“to the Dulles brothers through his efforts to shine a light on the wartime collusion between Sullivan and Cromwell, clients like Standard Oil, DuPont Chemical, and the Nazi cartels of IG Farben. Voris…”

Jerry Voorhis exposed Bank for International Settlements documented ▶ 19:48

Herman Pell recruited Richard Nixon documented ▶ 21:44

“He wanted to create a national credit union to compete with private banks and to expand the social security system as a way to establish a nationwide minimum income. In other words, universal income. …”

Gladding McBean financed_via Richard Nixon documented ▶ 24:10

“to make up the difference. We're going to help. Gladding McBean became a key generator of cash for Nixon, shaking down its own executives for campaign donations and spreading the word to other corpora…”

Herman Flagler worked_with Allen Dulles documented ▶ 25:09

“in the political and financial world. One director, Los Angeles corporate attorney Herman Flagler, had worked with Alan Dulles in post-war Germany and would later serve on his brother's State Departme…”

Richard Nixon framed Jerry Voorhis documented ▶ 25:37

“where Orange Grove still dominated the landscape. As the congressional race heated up, it became clear to Nixon's wealthy supporters that they had backed the right man to unseat Boris. The Republican …”

Richard Nixon defeated Jerry Voorhis documented ▶ 27:34

“On election day, Nixon rolled to an impressive victory with a 56% of the vote. Boris was so dismayed by the experience that he abandoned political life for the rest of his life. An outraged Boris aide…”

Whittaker Chambers spied_on Alger Hiss documented ▶ 29:27

“whose epic duel would become one of the defining public spectacles of the Cold War. Chambers, a senior writer and editor at Time magazine owned by Henry Luce, Mr. CIA adjacent, right-leaning publishin…”

Richard Nixon member_of House Un-American Activities Committee documented ▶ 29:57

“during the 1930s, a ring that included Alger Hiss. The resounding denial by Hiss, a former senior ranking Roosevelt State Department official, was so persuasively delivered that the notorious House Un…”

Alger Hiss member_of U.S. State Department documented ▶ 29:57

Alger Hiss worked_for Oliver Wendell Holmes documented ▶ 31:56

“After graduating, he was picked to serve as a law clerk for Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, a living legend. Hiss quickly became one of the rising stars in the Roosevelt administration, c…”

Alger Hiss member_of United Nations documented ▶ 31:56

Whittaker Chambers exposed Alger Hiss documented ▶ 32:53

“anyone named Whitaker Chambers. And he and the rumpled Chambers seemed to come from some different world that wouldn't have made it easy to believe anyway. But it was Chambers whom Nixon found convinc…”

Richard Nixon exposed Alger Hiss documented ▶ 33:22

“of admiration, envy, and resentment towards Hiss that strongly resonated with Nixon. Nixon quickly emerged as Hiss's most dangerous inquisitor, but Hiss held his ground under the young congressman's r…”

Allen Dulles headed Carnegie Endowment for International Peace documented ▶ 34:48

“He was on a familiar basis, and they weren't all Democrats. The biggest name he dropped was John Foster Dulles. It produced a mighty echo in the caucus room. His reminded the committee that it was the…”

Alger Hiss member_of Carnegie Endowment for International Peace documented ▶ 35:18

“Nixon was well aware that Hiss, who accepted Foster Dulles' offer and took over Carnegie Endowment in January of 1947, belonged to the Washington aristocracy that ascended party lines. But accusing Al…”

Richard Nixon recruited Allen Dulles host_asserted ▶ 40:08

“through the Hiss and Chambers transcripts. When they were done, Foster got to his feet and began pacing the room with his hands clasped behind him. The brothers realized Nixon was right and they had a…”

Verona Project spied_on Alger Hiss host_asserted ▶ 40:58

“Meanwhile, Foster quickly moved to distance himself from Hiss, pressuring him from behind the scenes to resign from the Carnegie endowment post, while Allen fed incriminating intelligence to Nixon to …”

Allen Dulles supplied_arms_to Richard Nixon host_asserted ▶ 40:58

Operation Gladio carried_out_attack Greece host_asserted ▶ 43:20

“When his Marshall Plan tour took him to Greece, Nixon was horrified to meet a young woman whose left breast had been hacked off by the quote-unquote communist guerrillas, which we now know was Operati…”

Richard Nixon covered_up Alger Hiss book_quoted ▶ 46:11

“That he was framed was given further credence years later by John Dean, the former White House attorney who became a key witness in the Watergate scandal that ended the Nixon presidency. Writing in hi…”

Whittaker Chambers member_of Time Inc. documented ▶ 47:04

“In January of 1950, Hiss was convicted of perjury and sentenced to federal prison where he would serve three and a half years. Meanwhile, Chambers, a man who had launched his writing career by working…”

Whittaker Chambers member_of Australian National Review documented ▶ 47:35

“And then moving on to none other than CIA adjacent William Buckley at the National Review. For Nixon, the Washington spy spectacle demonstrated not only the moral turpitude of Alger Hiss, but the inte…”

Harry Dexter White founded Bank for International Settlements documented ▶ 57:41

“In Harry Morgenthau's Treasury Department, White had played a major role in shaping the New Deal policies. Among his top accomplishments were the creation of the World Bank and the International Monet…”

Henry Morgenthau Jr. headed U.S. State Department documented ▶ 57:41

Harry Dexter White member_of U.S. State Department documented ▶ 57:41

Harry Dexter White founded IMF documented ▶ 57:41

Harry Dexter White targeted_for_regime_change Bank for International Settlements documented ▶ 59:49

“of the new financial system. Morgenthau and White led a movement at the conference to abolish the Bank of International Settlements, an institution they saw as an instrument of financial collaboration…”

Harry Dexter White member_of Henry Morgenthau Jr. documented ▶ 1:01:12

“Men like Harry White had been driven from Washington, but he still served as a consultant to the IMF, and he was still widely respected. And White still had detailed inside knowledge from his years as…”

Richard Nixon member_of House Un-American Activities Committee documented ▶ 1:02:10

“Republicans like Richard Nixon, whom Loftus called Alan Dulles' mouthpiece in Congress, made sure that the Dulles Circle would never have to answer for their wartime actions. By the time Harry Dexter …”

FBI spied_on Harry Dexter White documented ▶ 1:02:10

Elizabeth Bentley spied_on Harry Dexter White guest_asserted ▶ 1:03:04

“was not a card-carrying communist, but she had stepped in front of the dazzling newsreel lights. Her story grew more dramatic. White was no longer simply a misguided idealist, but a central player in …”

FBI paid Elizabeth Bentley documented ▶ 1:03:29

“The former spy admitted she had never met White, and over time, as her alcoholism grew worse, she became an increasingly erratic expert. As the committee billed her a Communist Party machination, as h…”

Whittaker Chambers spied_on Harry Dexter White guest_asserted ▶ 1:04:27

“When Chambers testified about White before the committee, he was more circumspect than Bentley. He claimed that he had met White from time to time as a Soviet courier, but he conceded that the Treasur…”

Clyde Tolson member_of FBI documented ▶ 1:05:21

“acknowledged that there was simply not enough proof to label him a Soviet spy and warned the FBI officials that they were making a grave mistake in using that phraseology. In his appearance before the…”

J. Parnell Thomas headed House Un-American Activities Committee documented ▶ 1:07:36

“who had enlisted in the Army during World War I, and I'm prepared to defend at any time in my life if need be. White's statement, a ringing invocation of the embattled New Deal philosophy, was in full…”

Harry Dexter White member_of Nathan Silvermaster guest_asserted ▶ 1:08:31

“Before his committee appearance, he informed the committee of his medical history in a confidential letter. But when White began speaking about his connection to Nathan Silvermaster, explaining that i…”

Richard Nixon member_of Operation Gladio guest_asserted ▶ 1:19:52

“Nixon is involved in the early stages of Operation Gladio. They are putting on a show for Nixon, both with the bomb and where they took him in Greece because they were already in Greece of the leftove…”

Allen Dulles funded Operation Gladio guest_asserted ▶ 1:19:52

International Telephone and Telegraph paid Richard Nixon guest_asserted ▶ 1:20:22

“And Nixon's kind of general connection with that, if you fast forward 24 years, it's part of IT&T Corporation, International Telephone and Telegraph. It was kind of the international AT&T of the 40s t…”

Richard Nixon targeted_for_regime_change Salvador Allende documented ▶ 1:21:17

“talking about his instructions to Ambassador Corey to basically say, yeah, you get rid of Allende. Yes. So now we know the missing piece of the puzzle. Yes. It's the Dulles brothers are involved with …”

Allen Dulles laundered_money_for IG Farben guest_asserted ▶ 1:21:17

Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon documented ▶ 1:25:04

“Okay, all I was going to say is Nixon stepping down probably might have saved my life. When Ford took office, and I remember this well, it was in 1973. A lot of people think that Nixon stepped down an…”