The Colonel’s Corner The Devil’s Chessboard Part 3

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0:00 Good afternoon, Colonel. How are you? I'm great, Bridget. How are you? Boy, really good. Boy, it's been a crazy busy news cycle, hasn't it? Like, since the beginning of the year. Right? I mean, what a way to start the year. Yeah. It just seems to get more crazy every day. Absolutely. So, this chapter is...

0:28 kind of a background chapter on Alan Dulles as far as his childhood. So we're going to be skimming through this chapter, just pointing out the highlights. For example, there were five kids in the family, Alan, Foster, and three sisters.

0:55 And of course, the one that spoke about the most is Eleanor because she was also working at the State Department when John Foster was the Secretary of State. Their father was a preacher, Reverend Alan Macy Dulles. And he was the minister of a Presbyterian church in Watertown, New York, which...

1:23 was described as a sleepy retreat favored by New York millionaires near Lake Ontario. So they hung out there a lot, going fishing and stuff like that. Reverend Dulles basically was poor. He didn't have a lot of money. He had a modest churchman's salary, but he married well. His father-in-law was John,

1:56 Watson Foster, who had briefly served as Secretary of State under Benjamin Harris. And then he established himself as one of Washington's first power attorneys. He had lots of money. And of course, Reverend Dulles didn't like the fact that he was beholding

2:29 kids. So they had a lake house where they went and hung out. And of course, all of that was provided by the grandfather. And the book spends a little bit of time talking about Eleanor, how bright and curious she was. And she liked to hang out. She was a tomboy. She liked to go fishing and hang out when dignitaries came to the house.

3:00 to visit her grandfather. Alan was much closer to her than John Foster was. Eleanor described Alan when he was little as someone who had charm, but would fly into a rage at a drop of the hat. She says he had dark clouds hanging over him.

3:42 She described him as darker and more complex than her older brother. And his behavior mystified Eleanor often. Eleanor was two years younger and was often given the chore of babysitting the other two girls. She described an event where the youngest girl

4:14 Natalie had fallen off the dock while she was throwing a rock. And Alan Dulles, who was a very good swimmer, Eleanor was not, stood there and watched the little girl float away. And Eleanor screaming for her mom, who was in bed with a migraine, and the mom had to run down to the river and save the little kid. Alan was satisfied with just...

4:43 allowing the little girl to float down the river and die, which is crazy. She also describes him basically as unfeeling. He didn't have compassion towards others, especially children, to include his own later on. Even his son and namesake, Alan Jr., made little impact on him when he excelled at prep school and at Oxford.

5:16 and then later on in the Korean War. Clover Dulles, who is the wife, described her husband as the shark. It goes on to say that the reflective pastor, meaning the dad, was less of an influence on his son than the mother and the grandfather. The Dulles boys were drawn to men of action who called on grandfather Foster.

5:53 men who talked about war and high-stake diplomacy, men who got things done. Like Allen, Foster felt little empathy for those around him, especially ones that were weak or vulnerable. He understood that there was misfortune in the world, but he expected people to take care of themselves. Foster's callousness came into stark relief during the Nazi crisis in Germany.

6:20 In 1932, as Hitler began his takeover of the German government, Foster visited three Jewish friends, all prominent bankers in the Berlin office of his company, Cromwell and Sullivan, Sullivan and Cromwell. The men were extremely anxious and afraid of what their future held. Foster's reaction to his friend's terrible dilemma unnerved Eleanor.

6:48 There's nothing that a person like me can do in dealing with these men except probably to keep away from them. That's what John Foster said to Eleanor. They're safer if I keep away from them, John Foster told her. Actually, there was plenty he could do as a Wall Street power broker. He just chose not to. The same year that Foster sidestepped the urgent concerns of his Jewish

7:23 Friends in Berlin, Eleanor informed him that she intended to marry David Blondheim, who of course was a Jewish guy. Her dad had given the blessing for the marriage, but had passed away. And John Foster was the head of the family and didn't like it at all. Foster wrote Eleanor a letter asking her if she realized this is a quote.

7:54 the complications of marrying a Jew, unquote, and helpfully pointing out a dozen such problems. Her brother's letter stunned Eleanor, who by then in her mid-30s didn't need her brother's approval. She sent a letter to his wife, Janet, and in her letter, she made it clear that he didn't need to trouble with any complications in her life. He was...

8:25 She made quick note, Eleanor did, that he was not motivated by anti-Semitism. He was just a product of his social and professional crowd. In his circles, people would say, you can't have too many Jews in this club or you can't have too many Jews at this firm. It was just the climate. In 1934, the Blondheim, distressed by the growing

8:54 events in Europe and his own private demons, sunk into depression and committed suicide. Reasserting himself as the family head, Foster came in and hushed the whole thing up and told Eleanor she must immediately change her name back. Eleanor did so.

9:26 And they basically erased that episode from their family. In early June 1939, the German transatlantic ocean liner, St. Louis, cruised along the coastline of Florida. Now, this is a ship that has hundreds of Jewish people that were leaving Germany. And they were looking for a place to dock.

10:00 A few got out in Cuba, but the rest were not allowed to go. It was referred to as a ghost ship. So as it's cruising along the United States, Harry Morgenthau Jr., who is FDR's Treasury Secretary and Jewish himself, was pleading with the government to allow the boat to dock and the people to get off because

10:26 Rumors were already circulating at the time of what was happening to Jewish people in Germany. Morgenthau lost that fight and the boat was ordered to leave. It was not going to be allowed to dock. And Morgenthau basically contacted everybody in the administration to include FDR. But FDR was in...

10:55 a battle himself and wasn't interested in the confrontation. So he basically ignored it. So the president had a longtime supporter called Rabbi Stephen Weiss of New York. They had spent time together throughout his career. And even Rabbi Stephen Weiss, although he got involved with the St. Louis, was not allowed

11:30 to do anything to help these people. So there's a guy that I want to point out here. His name is Breckenridge Long. He was at the time the Assistant Secretary of State in charge of immigration. He was the primary opponent to taking care of these people and allowing them to get off the ship.

12:04 In 1940, he circulated a memo among his department officials proposing that they delay for an indefinite period of time the number of immigrants allowed into the United States. We can do this by simply advising our consuls to put every obstacle in the way and require additional evidence and to resort to various administrative devices, which would postpone and postpone and postpone the granting of visas, unquote.

12:33 That's actually in a memo. He was not interested in helping anybody leave Germany. As a result of Breckenridge Long's delaying tactic, 90% of the quotas placed for refugees from Hitler and Mussolini's reigns, which would amount to 190,000 people, had to stay in Europe. One Morgenthau aide later,

13:08 called Long's cabal within the State Department, quote, an underground movement to let as many Jews be killed as possible. At one point, Morgenthau himself, who always tried to restrain in these debates so that he was not seen as overly representing the Jewish population, felt compelled to confront Long directly. Quote,

13:37 We might be a little frank, began the gentlemanly Treasury Secretary. The impression is all around that you are particularly anti-Semitic, unquote. Long was convinced that he was being persecuted by communist and extreme radicals and agitators and refugee enthusiasts. He was part of the State Department's entrenched aristocracy.

14:07 that regarded immigrants, any non-Christian newcomers from Central or Eastern Asia, as socially offensive and subversive. Perhaps not surprisingly then, when young Alan Dulles was serving at the U.S. Embassy in Turkey, his first overseas assignment after World War I, he fell for...

14:33 He was given a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion by a British reporter who had fished it out of a bookstore in Istanbul. Of course, the Protocols suggest that there's a secret plan for Jewish world domination. Most of us are all familiar with it.

15:04 passages where Christian children was being sacrificed as part of that religion. By the time Dulles got his hands on the book, which was the creation, which many people say it was a book created by the Russian czars, secret police. But Dulles took it serious enough to send a coded report of it.

15:35 back to Washington. So Captain Schroeder, who was the guy that was in charge of the St. Louis, was forced to return because they were running out of food and they wouldn't even take food out to the ship. And dock at Antwerp, Belgium. All of the people disembarked and less than three months later, Hitler invaded Poland and Europe went to war. At least

16:13 Due to research, 250 of the passengers would later die. As the war began, the struggle to save Europe's Jewish population was far from over. President Roosevelt continued to be pushed and pulled by different sides in the refugee debate. Initial reports of mass evacuations of Jewish to camps in Germany and Poland were vague.

16:43 The State Department bureaucracy bottled up much of the information and didn't even allow it to get out, including messages from overseas that had been directed to Rabbi Weiss. This was the desperate situation as Dulles began monitoring European developments, first from his OSS office at Rockefeller Center and later in Bern.

17:08 Among Dulles' confidential sources was a German industrialist who was a prominent figure inside the Nazi arena who provided credible information of the early stages of the labor camps. The story that the industrialist brought across the Swiss border was almost too monstrous to believe. The information that began flowing into Switzerland

17:37 the listening post for Europe, should have forced action, but it didn't. On July 17th, 1942, Heinrich Himmler had a luxurious private train equipped with a dining room shower pull into Auschwitz. They, let's see, the chief executive of a mining company met the train, Edward Schultz.

18:08 This was one that was set up for IG Farben. There were also, in addition to Farben, labor camps set up for Volkswagen, Siemens, and Krupp. Himmler's SS empire moved aggressively to cut in on, basically they were taxing these, making them pay for the people to be delivered to these camps. Schultz himself was not a Nazi.

18:43 but he had good contacts in those circles. His deputy at the mining firm belonged to the Nazi party, and in fact, he knew Himmler. To ingratiate themselves into the party, the firm's board of directors had loaned the local Nazi chief a company-owned villa that was located nearby. It was here that Himmler and his entourage was going to be entertaining for the evening. When Himmler arrived for the party at the company villa,

19:14 Schultz was still unaware of why he was visiting Auschwitz. Himmler was there to witness what was referred to as Bunker 2. That afternoon, Himmler had watched a group of prisoners being transported from Holland and marched into Bunker 2 and gassed. The execution process took a full 20 minutes.

19:43 One of the triumphs of the German engineering was to devise a convenient incinerator nearby so they didn't have to worry about burying the people. That was an invention by Fritz Sander. Himmler observed the procedure unfold that afternoon and never said a word. The commandant at the camp was Rudolf Haas. Later on at the villa,

20:14 He was seen drinking wine, hanging around, smoking a cigar as if nothing happened. Edward Schultz was finding out throughout this party why they were there. And of course, he was shocked. So he began, he had a penance for hunting and hanging out with other people.

20:44 And he began contacting, so he's traveled to Switzerland a lot for his mining company. And he had people, both Jewish and non-Jewish in Switzerland that he met routinely with. And so he begins meeting with them to share information about what was going on. One day in early 1942,

21:15 An IG Farben official by the name of Ernst Struss was returning home on a train after inspecting the company's factory near Auschwitz. A German worker was also riding on that train talking loudly about the nightmare at the camp because basically you could smell the furnace and whatever that smells like.

21:43 And he was basically yelled at and told to shut up. Edward Schultz was not one of the men that could hide or deny the truth. So on July 29, 1942, he was on a trip to Zurich. He was determined to put information in the hands of the Allies. The trip across the border carried a high degree of risk. He was a prominent 51-year-old businessman.

22:17 with wife and family back in Germany. But the revelations of what was going on gave him a sense of urgency. So Schultz kept to his normal routine when doing business in Switzerland, checking in at the same hotel where he had been an honored guest. He then telephoned Isidore Koppelman, an investment advisor who he had used in the past. He wanted to get information.

22:46 into the international Jewish organizations of what was going on and thought that was his best shot. If the allies failed to act, there would be few, if any, Jews left in Europe by the end of the year, he said, and that Koppelman should be able to get the word out. The circuitous and troubled route that Schultz's critical message took over the next several weeks through diplomatic and political channels

23:20 reveals a lot. Though Kuppelman's efforts, through his efforts, Schultz's message was delivered to Gerhardt Rigner, a young Genevan representative of the World Jewish Congress. Rigner, in return, was intent on relaying the information to the president of the World Jewish Congress in New York, none other than Rabbi Stephen Weiss, the FDR confidant. The problem for Rigner

23:50 was that he was compelled to use the services of the American litigation in Bern to dispatch a confidential cable to Weiss. The U.S. diplomats in Switzerland thought that he seemed to be in great agitation as he relayed the story. The U.S. minister in Switzerland, Leland Harrison, was a colleague of Dulles' and he decided

24:19 that he was very skeptical of what he was being told. Harrison dismissed it as nothing more than war rumors, although he did concede to maltreatment, malnourishment, and disease. The State Department later sent the OSS a summary of the report that had originated with Schultz. Allen Dulles was still working out of the OSS office in New York at the time.

24:49 was one of those that received the message. The State Department flatly refused to believe Schultz's account, calling it wild rumors. Even Harrison's concession that some of the Jews were dying in the labor camps was stripped out of the State Department message. The State Department decided not to notify Rabbi Wise of it at all, who they viewed as a thorn in the side.

25:20 It took a full month for Rabbi Wise to receive Rigner's report. When the telegram finally arrived in New York in August of that year, it came not through U.S. diplomatic channels, but the British. The State Department also did not see fit to pass along Schultz's revelations to President Roosevelt. In frustration with the information bottleneck, Rabbi Wise finally held a press conference.

25:48 two days before Thanksgiving, announcing that Hitler had already killed at least 2 million European Jews and had planned to exterminate the rest. The New York Times story on page 10. The Washington Post wrote about it on page 6. The press was reluctant to highlight the explosive story. Dulles, who was soon headed to Switzerland,

26:17 could have been one of the sources for the U.S. press. While still stationed in New York, he began sending out veteran reports under diplomatic cover to gather intelligence in various forward posts in Europe. One of the reporters, a 37-year-old Berlin-born multilingual NBC correspondent by the name of Gerald Mayer,

26:44 was sent to burn in April of 42, soon after Schultz's report began circulating. Mayer also began filing stories about the same thing with the New York OSS office. But Dulles did nothing to publicize Mayer's reports. They too remained buried in government bureaucracy. Along with the Schultz bombshells, these alarms would have made a loud noise, particularly in New York.

27:16 History would give Dulles one more chance to alert the world of the ongoing genocide. In Switzerland, he would hear directly from the men like Schultz and others who had risked their lives to save people in Germany. In Bern, the evil was not so remote. It was all around. After arriving in Switzerland, Dulles took his time setting up a meeting with Edward Schultz.

27:42 When the two men finally did come together in the spring of 43 at a meeting in Zurich, it was amicable enough. They had met 15 years earlier, they realized, in the New York office of Sullivan and Cromwell, which represented Anaconda Copper, a partner of Schultz Mining Firm. And yes, that's the same Anaconda Copper that would later on be behind.

28:11 the regime change in Chile of Salvador Allende. And I found it interesting to know that Sullivan and Cromwell was representing them too, just like they were representing United Fruit in Guatemala. The fate of the Jewish people was still of great urgency to Schultz. He had fallen in love with a younger Jewish woman who lived in Zurich.

28:39 But Dulles expressed little interest in Schultz's information, more intrigued by the politics and psychological mood of the German people and how they could be won over by the Allies. Dulles asked Schultz to write up a memo on the state of the German nation. It was Hitler's people, not his victims, that most intrigued Allen Dulles. This was characteristic of Dulles's meetings with German informants while he was stationed in Bern.

29:09 Fritz Kolbe, an efficient Foreign Service official who kept rising to higher posts in the German government despite his stubborn refusal to join the Nazi party, was another mole who risked his life to give the U.S. insights into German operations. One night, with documents stuffed down his pants, Kolbe crossed into Switzerland and made his way to Dulles' house. Like Schultz, Kolbe was well aware of the risk he was taking.

29:38 After the first meeting with the American spy, Colby drew up his will. He also left Dulles a letter for his young son in case he was caught and killed. Dulles was untouched by the request. The OSS agent sized him up as somewhat naive and romantic, which was not good because Dulles regarded them as expendable. But Colby had important information to impart, and he kept risking his life to smuggle Nazi documents across the border.

30:10 During another meeting with Dulles in April of 44, Colby handed over a thick file of Nazi cables revealing the Hungarian Jews who had remained were about to be rounded up and deported to the labor camp, death camps in Germany. Dulles' report on this meeting was one of the few from Bern that ended up on the president's desk.

30:39 But there was nothing in the communique about the imminent fate of the Hungarian Jews. And there was nothing about the possibility of bombing the rail lines to prevent the trains from leaving. Even the camps themselves, or even the camps themselves, as Schultz and others were urging the Allies to do. Instead, Dulles chose to focus the President's attention on another topic.

31:10 that he had discussed with Colby. Underground communist organizing seemed to be gaining strength in Germany as the Nazi war effort faltered. Colby had informed the U.S. agent. This was the emergency that Dulles thought FDR needed to hear about. Dulles continued to receive Nazi documents about the fate of Hungarian Jews from Colby over the next seven months.

31:40 One German cable reported that 120 Jews in Budapest, including children considered unfit for work, would soon be taken to a quote-unquote labor service. The Nazis were always very careful to use labor service in their communication, meaning that they were going to their death.

32:05 Communication from Bern to Washington were declassified decades later by the government. Scholars were able to decipher his wartime obsessions. Dulles' interest was absorbed by psychological warfare tricks, such as distributing counterfeit stamps behind enemy lines depicting Hitler's profile as a death skull and other cloak-and-dagger antics.

32:30 He was also deeply engaged in mapping out grand post-war strategies for Europe. But few of his more than 300 communiques ever mentioned the Jewish fate. The glaring blank spot in Dulles' wartime record continues to confound academic researchers decades later, though they remain reluctant to pass judgment.

32:58 why did Dulles choose not to emphasize or even report on what was going on to Washington? Whatever his reason, one historian said, his reluctance on this subject is among the most controversial and least understood aspect of his time in Bern. April of 1944, Rudolf Verba, a 19-year-old

33:28 Jew from a village in Czechoslovakia who had survived for nearly two years in Auschwitz had escaped with Alfred Wetzler, a childhood friend, by piling up wood planks for three days and nights without food or water. They tied rags around their mouth to muffle the coughs that would betray them to the SS patrols. On the third night, when they finally felt it was safe enough to escape,

33:56 Rudy and Fred emerged from the pyramid of wood and began crawling under the moonless sky across a muddy field. The two friends were determined to return home and save as many people as they could. At one point, they were chased up a mountainside by German patrols with dogs and bullets being shot at them. They were helped by Polish peasants who fed them. Two weeks after crawling out of the wood pile in Auschwitz, they were home.

34:26 After being put in touch with Oscar Newman, the chairman of the local Jewish council, they began telling the horrific tale of Auschwitz. While the fundamental facts about the death camps were widely known by then, Rudy and Fred's report, which ended up being 40 pages long, was the most thorough and specific to emerge about Auschwitz up to that point. It described the management and daily routine of the camp.

34:55 the unfortunate victims, and described what was going on there. In mid-June, nearly two months after the escapees wrote down their account, the report was finally smuggled into Switzerland. A British correspondent named Walter Garrick got his hands on a copy, which he took to Alan Dulles on June 22nd. While the journalist sat in Dulles' house, the spy read the entire report.

35:26 He would later say that he was shocked. Dulles' concern clearly convinced the British reporter that something would be done. But in fact, Dulles had begun receiving reports about this type of thing two years earlier, before he had even left for Switzerland. One should indeed have finally taken drastic action at that point. Many of the Hungarian Jews may have been saved.

36:01 Instead, Dulles sent off a routine cable on the report to Secretary of State Cordell Hall, a man Dulles knew would not lift a finger to help them, even though he was married to a Jewish woman. It was Hall who had advised FDR to reject the St. Louis, and it was Hall who had blocked Schultz's report from getting to Rabbi Wise through State Department channels. Through the efforts of the exiled Jewish businessmen,

36:31 in Geneva and a group of students he recruited to make 50 copies of the report. The eyewitness account of life and death inside Auschwitz finally broke into the Swiss press and was then picked up by the New York Times and the BBC. In the uproar, President Roosevelt and other world leaders successfully pressured the Hungarian government to stop the deportations, but it didn't last long.

36:59 In October 1944, Hitler ordered a Nazi takeover of the government in Budapest and they began again. In the final months of the war, the U.S. and British finally opened a second front in the war and Hitler's forces were caught in a vice between the Red Army and the American British Army. Roosevelt and close advisors like Morgenthau began contemplating the Nazi regime post-war fate.

37:29 The glory that was European civilization had gone up in human smoke. But FDR was determined to keep his vow that he had made repeatedly throughout the war, that he would bring to justice the perpetrators of this travesty. The Third Reich would be put on trial and its reign ground to dust. But once again, Alan Dulles had other plans. Then the book briefly describes Nuremberg.

38:01 and the preparation for the Nuremberg trials, saying that Nuremberg had hosted a big Hitler parade, extravaganza, whatever. In 1934, there had been a Nuremberg festival called the Triumph of Will that choreographed the militarism of...

38:29 Hitler, and so it wasn't a coincidence that they used Nuremberg for the trial. By 1945, it had been reduced to rubble. The Royal Air Force and U.S. Army Air Force bombers had swarmed overhead and destroyed just about everything there. When Rebecca West arrived in Nuremberg that fall to cover the war crimes for the New Yorker,

38:58 she found only ruined landscape and scavengers. That November, 21 prominent representatives of the Nazi regime that had brought Europe to this ruin faced their own moment of retribution as they sat in defendant's gallery at the Nuremberg Palace of Justice. One of the few official buildings left standing, Hitler and Heimler were already gone.

39:26 as was the Reich's master propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, escaping the executioner by his own hands. So we're told. But the Nuremberg prosecutors had managed to assemble a representative spectrum of Hitler's glory days, like Hermann Goring, at one time the second highest ranking member in the Nazi party and Hitler's designated successor. Goring was joined in the dock.

39:56 by dignitary Rudolf Hess, Hitler's half-mad deputy who had flown to Scotland in 1941 to cut a peace deal with Britain. Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Hitler's scar-faced executioner and highest-ranking SS leader, to be tried at Nuremberg. Heimel Schlotz, the brilliant international banker who financed Hitler's military rise.

40:25 Albert Speer, the architect of Hitler's imperial dream and master of his weapons assembly line, Julius Strecher, the unhinged politician and publisher that grew a media empire based in Nuremberg. Nuremberg was going to have the trials. And when Hitler's foreign minister,

41:01 I don't know, Van Ribbentrop was asked by the interrogator whether he was aware that millions had been murdered in Nazi death camps. He said, quote, that is an astonishing thing to me. I can't imagine that, unquote. It was as if he suddenly was waking from a bad dream. The defendants had long before abdicated all of their will to.

41:29 Hitler, defendant Wilhelm Frick, the Reich's Minister of Interior, declared in 1935, I have no conscience. Adolf Hitler is my conscience. The most egotistical defendants, like Goring and Slatt, struck defiant poses. At times, Goring mugged for the courtroom, laughing at the prosecutors mispronouncing German names, like I just did.

41:59 He had not even bothered to run from the advancing American troops in the final days of the war, convinced that he would be treated as a representative of a government and nobly. His first hours of captivity surely encouraged his optimism. The U.S. 36th Infantry Division soldiers who came for him at his quarters in southern Bavaria chatted with him.

42:26 and treated the well-fed Nazi to one of their chicken and rice dinners. Goring had no idea that he was going to be tried as a war criminal. He told an American commander, should I wear a pistol or my ceremonial dagger when I appear before General Eisenhower? Nine days into the trial, the dead would make a dramatic appearance in the courtroom, conjured up in a 22-minute documentary called Death Mills.

42:56 The documentary was made by a Hollywood director, Billy Wilder, who was an Austrian born Jew who had fled Hitler, who compiled it from scraps of film from the U.S. Army Signal Corps. In his opening statement, Robert Jackson, the chief U.S. prosecutor at Nuremberg, warned the courtroom that the film will be disgusting. It showed piles of shriveled up corpses and skeletons of the people that were...

43:29 Skeletons meaning skinny people that were still alive when they rescued them. Not unlike the Bataan death mark survivors. As the film went on, there was no place to hide. The hilarity in the court suddenly stopped. One criminal mopped his brow. Another one swallowed hard. Now another one buried his face in his hands. They weren't crying for themselves.

44:04 or for the dead, they were crying for themselves. One of the most arrogant remained impervious was Hitler's banker with his back turned to the screen and Goring trying to brazen it out. Goring complained that the film had ruined the show he was putting on for the courtroom. Quote, it was such a good afternoon until they showed that film.

44:32 They were reading my telephone conversations on the Austrian annexation and everybody was laughing with me. And then they showed that awful film. It spoiled everything, unquote. The Nuremberg trial was a moral milestone. The first time that top government officials were held accountable for crimes against humanity that in earlier days would have likely been dismissed as just acts of war. During the war, allied leaders,

45:02 had issued full warning that Nazi war criminals would be pursued to the utmost ends of the earth, which we know that didn't happen, except for a few of them. The tribunal was finally established in Nuremberg, and even after it was up and running, the process was fraught with political maneuvering. President Roosevelt and Churchill were so intent on metering out a

45:30 fitting punishment that they originally favored taking the law into their own hands and just shooting people. Churchill estimated the number would be somewhere between 50 and 100 men. The prime minister thought that once the proper identifications were made, the killings could be completed in six hours. In one of history's deeper ironies, it was Joseph Stalin who insisted that the Nazi leaders be put on trial.

45:58 lecturing his Western allies on the merits of due process. Uncle Joe took an unexpected, ultra-respectable line, Churchill wrote Roosevelt after the meeting with Stalin in Moscow in October of 1944. The Soviet premier told Churchill that there must be no executions without trial, otherwise the world would say we were afraid to have them.

46:25 Roosevelt finally came around to the idea of an international war crimes tribunal, but once again, he had to face stiff opposition in his own State Department. Foreign service legend George Kennan, who was a junior diplomat in the U.S. Embassy in Berlin when the war broke out, was one of those that took a hard stand against punishing Nazi war criminals. Purging these leaders from German society would not be...

46:56 greatly understood by the German people, Kennan said, it would be disruptive. We would not find any other class of people competent enough to lead post-war Germany. Whether we like it or not, nine-tenths of what is strong and able and respectable in Germany is tainted with Nazism.

47:21 It was not until late 1943 that a small, underfunded international commission began the urgent work of trying to define these new war criminals. And I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this one because this is about Herman Pell, who we covered quite a bit in his obstacles in trying to even classify these crimes as war crimes.

47:47 Because they didn't want to do anything that had to do with crimes against humanity. They felt it was perfectly fine for a head of state to kill his own people. You could only hold them accountable if they killed other people. It's fine. They were arguing. The State Department in the United States was arguing that it's perfectly fine to kill your own people. And that an international body cannot hold you responsible for killing your own people.

48:18 We certainly have moved past that. So they spend quite a bit of time here about talking about Pell and his relationship with FDR and how the State Department tried to keep him from even going over there. They kept delaying it and he had to ask FDR to intervene to finally get his. And the guy that was at the State Department, the chief lawyer that didn't want this new precedent set in was Green.

48:50 Hackworth. We talked about him a lot as well. So I'm not going to rehash that part of the book. But Pell definitely had his work cut out for him. And if you remember, his son was soon-to-be future U.S. Senator Claiborne Pell. And they were just beside themselves. They couldn't believe that

49:21 the State Department was in the middle of not doing the right thing, which of course, we've learned the State Department's always in the middle of not doing the right thing. Okay, so that's pretty much for that part of it. I did want to mention this one part just because it names names of companies. When they were talking about some of the criminal organizations,

49:48 Pell mentioned that you can't forget about one of the big war factories in Germany being the Opel Company, which was owned and financed by General Motors Corporation, a company in which Secretary Stenonis had a great interest. And he had just taken over Edward Stenonis Jr. as the new Secretary of State. And so he had financial interest in...

50:17 Germany as the Secretary of State in deciding how they were going to conduct Nuremberg. The biggest electric company in Germany was owned and financed by General Electric Company of New York. There you have potent reasons why a large and important group in the United States didn't want to do anything about the Nazis, not to mention that they had funded them to begin with.

50:50 So, let's see. I think that's probably a good place to stop for now. And we'll pick up there. We did get into, we did chapter two today, but we did get in a good part of chapter three as well. So, we will start there tomorrow. It really lays out in a beautiful way.

51:20 The Nazi connections, I think. Yes. Yes. And how the communication works and what we need to be cognizant of in America is there's a lot of stuff that goes on overseas. Now, not now because we have the internet and X, but in the past.

51:50 It does perfectly explain how things like Operation Gladio was kept from us because these communications between the citizens in these foreign countries and our representatives there are all filtered by people that work for the U.S. government.

52:15 they will filter it based on what their motivation is. And obviously, Alan Dulles' motivation was the corporate entities that he basically was still representing in an intelligence organization called the OSS. He was basically there for his Sullivan and Cromwell employer and not actually working for the U.S. government. And so his concern about

52:41 His customer relations and the aftermath of what they were going to look like in Germany was of more importance to him than saving people in a war. And he conducted himself accordingly. And then you also have the infighting within, in this case, the State Department of what's going on. And none of this is known to the American people. That's kind of the bottom line.

53:11 SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel, and thank everyone for attending here on Spaces and Rumble. All of this stuff, I look at Alan Dulles, and I swear that man would have nailed his entire family to the cross just to get what he wanted. But given all of that, what really gets me is I take a look. He wanted for nothing in his childhood, if you understand what's really going on here.

53:42 And along with that, I see all these people he surrounded himself with during this period of history. And it's like, where did he find them? How did he come across them? What in the world brought all these people together? Years and years and decades, decades of working in these foreign places. Because keep in mind.

54:12 This is during the time when Alan Dulles, when he was working for Sullivan and Cromwell, you know, he's the guy that was going over to Baku, Azerbaijan and buying oil fields for the Rockefellers. This man was all over the world all the time. His Rolodex would have...

54:41 filled up this room I'm sitting in right now. He was so well known between him and his brother. And literally, Warhamster and I have talked about this repeatedly, that from before World War I on, the two of these guys are at every single meeting internationally of any importance.

55:10 In the aftermath of World War II, literally at every meeting, the Versailles Treaty, everywhere, the meeting in San Francisco that, you know, John Foster Dulles was intimately involved in writing that document that basically said that no American that had been held POW by the Japanese in the Pacific could sue Japan because, you know, they were broke.

55:38 Even though they had billions, if not trillions of dollars that they had stolen in gold through Golden Lily, they prevented any reparations for their treatment. If you guys have ever read Ghost Soldiers, that book that talks about the survivors and how they were rescued of the Bataan Death March and what they went through as far as torture.

56:08 It is a very hard book to get through. And to know that these son of a bitches drafted a document with knowing that the Japanese emperor was sitting on billions, if not trillions of dollars worth of wealth and claiming to the American people that they were broke and couldn't be sued. It's enough to literally make you sick. It's crazy.

56:46 Anybody have anything else? I threw a mic to Warhamster. He might be doing it. He may be busy. He may just be listening. But a great book. I'm so glad you chose this one to go through. Yeah. It's so hard. Go ahead. Sorry. Hearing all of this at this point, I can only imagine what the rest of the book is going to be like. It's good. It's definitely good.

57:21 It talks a lot about the stuff, the behind the scenes stuff in more detail than what we've covered in some of our high level look. It's very good. More hamster, did you have something you wanted to add? Well, you call my name three times. I've kind of got to respond. It's sort of like Beetlejuice.

57:47 No, you know, I'm enjoying the heck out of this. When I first started doing presentations and videos about three or four years ago, I was telling us the same story and not anywhere near as much detail. I'd read most of these books, but I love the way you go through it just chapter by chapter because I was trying to do a 60-minute presentation, which would take hours to do. So the depth of the understanding, it really just hammers home things that we've done in soundbites over and over again.

58:15 You know, at the end of the day, when you pay attention to real history, the names just started popping up over and over again, you know, between Sullivan and Cromwell, Dulles brothers, and you see them in every single place. And you got to start to ask the question. And like I said, I like what you do. I love what you do here because it really goes down to a much more granular level. This is not just the same faces popping up, but who were they talking to and what were they saying?

58:41 Well, and to your point, I think all of the work that you and I do together collectively obviously works well together. The series that we did on Skull and Bones, because a lot of these people emanate from that. Like we're going to be talking about Prescott Bush in a future chapter.

59:02 Understanding the grip that they have on the State Department and many of the mechanisms, you know, they find themselves in the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Treasury roles. The interrelation, the interlocking hold that this Praetorian Guard have for the people that they represent, both legally, financially, and politically governmental-wise,

59:32 forms a safety barrier between us and them that's almost impermeable to ever touching them. And I think the collective work that we've done over the last couple of years paints that picture perfectly.

59:49 And I really do think since we all were gypped in school, both in college and in high school of our real history, that us going back and looking at it as adults who've lived this, the results of it is critically important for us to be informed as citizens and hold our government accountable going forward.

1:00:14 Yeah, that's really the really exciting part about the series we're doing is when we get to things like the Fabians and the foundations, you know, we're going to really be setting the table for what's happened in our lifetimes. Yes. You know, we don't really call it what happened. You don't call it what happened when you lived real history. But everything, the table is being set for exactly where we are today. And it should show people a roadmap of what the heck to do about it. Yes, I agree.

1:00:43 hey before you kick me off i want to i got to give a promo here okay so because the colonel is busy with very important uh babysitting duties tomorrow uh we're not going to restart our series tomorrow so i'm going to use that time slot to have a guy on my channel who i've had a couple times before he's a j6er by the name of brian mock and he's got a fascinating story new chapter of the story what he's done since being pardoned just in the last year

1:01:09 And Brian just has the, I guess, I don't know what the right word for it is. He was personally called up into the congressional record by no one other than Diana Presley today in the stuff about the Minneapolis corruption hearings. She's personally singled him out because of what he's doing behind the scenes to hold people accountable on J6. So we're going to be talking about that tomorrow. Awesome.

1:01:34 How cool is that to have his picture and his name in a little caption brought to, you know, a little placard brought by Ayanna Pressley, you know, the bald chick. He is now in the congressional record for the rest of his life. So that's pretty cool. We're going to be doing that tomorrow. Awesome. And that would be at noon because I do have babysitting duties. And we're not going to tell anybody why I can't do a later show. Yes, we won't. That'll be our secret.

1:02:02 All along, go ahead. Bridget, remind me at the end of the show, I need to update you guys on some personal stuff. All along, go ahead. Colonel, I'm about to say something that may inspire the knitting of some inspirational new hunting blinds. Okay. So I just want to point out that I'm only saying this for provocative purposes. Okay. In order to like...

1:02:31 just get us thinking about what the heck is going on. You are the best leftist in the United States right now. I'm going to say it again so people can reload here. You are the best leftist in the United States right now. What do I mean by that? If we think about everything that we have read in these past couple days, I mean,

1:03:00 Do not leftists purport to be against gigantic corporate government? Yes. Do they not? Yes. So do they not pretend or purport to be for the working class? Yes. Dominated by these gigantic corporations and syndicates, you know, to actually prevent competition when they pretend to be for competition, et cetera, et cetera.

1:03:31 So, you know, what is going on with the, quote, U.S. left, unquote, which is really what I'm trying to get at here. Yes. No, I know what you're getting at. What the hell is going on? Because there's nothing more, you know, central than CIA history for actual leftists if you actually took them seriously. Yes.

1:04:00 for the working class not being brainwashed by spectrum Comcast elections in every single classroom from New York to California, if you're for revealing, you know, the assassination of left liberals who actually, those revelations would prevent the entire working class from getting a menu of Dick Cheney-endorsed Kamala Harris against Donald Trump, right? Yes, yes. Can you be a, quote, leftist? Yes.

1:04:29 basically leave all of this stuff to, you know, to Tucker Carlson. Yes. And then you go around and say that, oh, well, that's Tucker. Again, I ask you, this cannot be an accident. No. It has to be programming of a cross-spectrum kind. Yes. The spectrum is role-playing on the same team. Yes. You do not put a catcher at shortstop, and Whitey Herzog did not.

1:04:58 There it's like the entire media spectrum is role playing on one team. Yes. The domestic population. Yes. As a high school teacher, especially I see it because, you know, when you, when you stand in front of a classroom and you see 17, 16 year olds, you're like, whether you're in Kansas or in New York city, you're basically dealing with, you know, a blank slate and it's, and it's kind of amazing in some ways, terrifying.

1:05:27 that this is given to Spectrum and Comcast and the purported left just, you know, does not care. And, you know, it's funny that you say that because it didn't take me a couple of months into three years ago researching this to realize there is no real in the United States. There is no such thing as a left and right. They don't exist.

1:05:55 it is a psychological operation because they are both on the same team. Now, were there some true people that were for workers? Yes. And to your point, most of them were assassinated. And the same is true for people that we would categorize as being on the right side of the aisle.

1:06:21 they were all sabotaged as well. And that's why I, early on in this research, came to the conclusion that it's a facade. It is literally a continuum of people that operate collectively together in basically a role-playing model. So I agree with that completely. Renee, go ahead.

1:06:49 Hey, sorry, I'm a little crazy busy, but I'll try and get it out as quickly as possible. I put a couple of things in the purple pill about connections. I don't know if any of you have heard about Alan Dulles or the Dulles is being connected to the Swiss Malay Prevost family. Cynthia Chung talks about it and some other people as well. I haven't ever checked all the sources, but Cynthia Chung is pretty up to par in my opinion.

1:07:16 I also wanted to talk about the Astors. I didn't get a chance to chime in yesterday, but you brought up in Chapter 1 about the Waldorf Astoria. Yes. The Astor family is the one who first built the Waldorf Astoria in New York City.

1:07:33 And it's a coinkydink, but guess who owns it now? The Hiltons. And then also the Astors, I don't know if you all know, are very much connected to the opium trade. Warhamster has shared all that.

1:07:48 But it's just kind of, again, full circle with the whole drug trafficking and everything. And it's funny, in Chapter 1, he's hobnobbing with the Astors. And I wonder, you know, in those dark, smoky rooms, what they were talking about, you know? But anyway, just wanted to share all that. They were definitely talking about the drug trade. You can be guaranteed of that. Exactly. Cool. But I'm enjoying this. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Renee. SR, go ahead.

1:08:16 Thank you, Colonel. There's one thing that struck me that you said about companies with GE having done all the electrification for Germany at that point in time. And I'm sitting here thinking about that and saying, now, why is it they weren't using a 110 plug?

1:08:37 Well, they also did the electrification after the Bolshevik Revolution. GE did that. And all of the U.S. railroad barons were over there building railroads, you know, in that supposedly communist hellhole. Again, the whole left and right thing is garbage. They're in it to make money.

1:08:59 They have a Praetorian guard that pretends to be on opposite sides that fight above us, and we're just the peasants in a perpetual prison that has been built around us. So, yeah. Colonel, can I weigh in on this right-left thing? Sure. You know it's one of my favorite topics. Yeah. And I love the fact that both you and all along gave verbal air quotes when you said left and right. Yeah. That's entirely appropriate.

1:09:28 At a basic level, we've been taught to think politically in terms of right-left. It appeals to humanity's tribalism, but it's also Hegelian. It's how they divide us to keep us from looking up. Right-left is a distraction. But if you look at the original definition of right versus left, far-left was always 100% government. Far-right was always 0% government, which is anarchy. Neither one of them works.

1:09:56 What the founding fathers, the Republican Revolution, said is that individual liberty is far more important than collectivist good. And they decide, okay, you can't have anarchy and still maintain order. So you want to have just enough government to maintain order and no more at all. They said the French Revolution was founded on the exact same principles as the American founding fathers.

1:10:25 The powers that be in Europe, the ruling class, the superclass, the elites sent in their Masonic Jacob Jacobists to turn the French Revolution into a collectivist bloodbath. Yeah, that's what the right versus left has been ever since. So today's Republican Party is far left of the Constitution. Yes, we are like this. They're just not as far left as the modern day iteration of the Democrat Party. Correct. We start talking about the corporations. Well, you got to go back to Hamilton.

1:10:54 And it's federally funded internal improvements, which is basically crony capitalism or mercantilism. Once again, where you under the auspices of having a free market, you've got cartels who've got their, you know, basically their people in power in Washington, D.C. And they are able to get benefits and freeze out their competition. And that's fascism. And it's just right next door to communism. They're both far left ideology. Yes. They're about government control.

1:11:22 The focus has to go back to individual liberty, which is the right, is what the right should be. So when it comes to the air quotes, trying to describe human geopolitical behavior on a two-dimensional scale is ridiculous in the first place. So it has to be intentional, and it is. Yes, because that goes back to the third way of creating the polar opposites of the Bolshevikism and the Nazism and then labeling them.

1:11:51 around the world and then using them as boogeymans in order to orchestrate terror and control the people. And they've been doing that since, you know, the late 1800s, early 1900s that we've covered. Not saying that it doesn't go back much further than that, but yeah. I think you probably said British East India Company, Dutch East India Company, and probably Venice did the same.

1:12:18 Real quick, I went back and listened to some of our very first videos we did together, and you had already independently came to the same conclusion about the strategy of tension. Yeah. And we just sat there over the last three years, just pounded home example after example after example of this. Yes. So all along this question is great, but as a teacher, how the heck do you describe something as complex as we just covered to children or to students?

1:12:46 Well, and I don't know if you know that, but all along was a history teacher. That's what he did in high school. Yeah, that's what I mean. He's a teacher. I got a good childhood buddy who's a history teacher up in Washington State, so take that with a big grain of salt. He tries to have an open mind, but he can't do it. He can't get past the biases that the system has drilled into him.

1:13:10 He's a good guy, and he wants to be honest, and he asks me the questions, and he even wants to hear the answer, and then just rejects them every single time. Yeah. Megan, go ahead, and then we'll go back to all along. Colonel, I'm going to go a little off topic here, but it was badass to see you on with CanCon and Ash. Oh, thank you. You did an awesome job, and you're reaching a bigger audience.

1:13:38 And your space today was awesome as well. Thank you. Have a fantastic week. You too. Go ahead all along. Sorry. So I just wanted to say related to, you know, the whole way that left and further left is manipulated by the U.S. controlled left. Like a really frequent.

1:14:11 I hope I'm saying that word correctly. Example would be like in Venezuela right now. So the two CIA guys who, as you know, were training the Venezuelan, quote, security forces in the dictator Perez's administration, which was loved by U.S. imperialists like Nelson Rockefeller.

1:14:39 were Hank Hernandez and Manny Pena, right? And then they went back into sunny Los Angeles, California, and they ran the RFK assassination investigation, and they had some pretty good hints. Yeah. Right? And it's like, here's my question. Where on the U.S., quote, left, unquote, I mean, just think about the potential.

1:15:09 If you really wanted to change this government, if you really wanted to, you know, put a hiccup in cartel media like you claim to want to do, what on earth could you possibly, you know, choose better as a better, you know, weaponized thing than the RFK assassination run by the CIA agents in Venice fucking Waylon?

1:15:37 who are, you know, right now you're talking about everything except that regarding U.S. and Venezuelan history. And yet, you know, it's like special unit center was a pretty damn special unit. Yeah. And how do the fake leftists justify this? They're like, oh, well, RFK, we're further to the left of RFK. No, you're not. No, you're not. Because what you call further left is people who are DSA.

1:16:06 who are, you know, they're down with the New York City real estate brokers. They just put in Mamdani. And if you take a look at what RFK had under that hood with MLK, the sanitation workers, the United Farm Workers, the UAW, you know, the most racially integrated national union in U.S. history, and then it ends in three assassinations? Yeah. Well, now you're going to tell me.

1:16:33 that you are further to the left of me by ignoring the RFK assassination. The fake left protects the Democrats on their most vulnerable point. And you know, you reminded me, I do have an article that was almost done. I need to go find that about that connection that I started about two weeks ago when we started.

1:17:00 Venezuela started rising up. I need to go find that. I just made myself a note. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. All along and his point of thought here just struck me is that further left just means you align with strategy of tension. And the same goes with further right. You align with it.

1:17:29 It doesn't matter just so long as you get what you want. Yeah. And we'll do it on either end. Thank you. Sure. So I'm going to have to run here real quick. I did want to give you guys some personal fantastic news. It won't sound fantastic at first. My daughter and son-in-law.

1:17:55 who you guys know were moving to Atlanta and was trying to sell their house has now decided to stay here. And so they're not moving. And as a result of that, my daughter recently applied to go back to being a school teacher. And she went for her first interview today. And within two hours of interviewing, she was called and offered the job.

1:18:25 an ecstatic grandma again, not in mourning that I'm going to lose my grandson to Atlanta. So just thank you guys for all of your prayers. And I'm just, I'm over the moon right now because literally got the phone call just before the show started.

1:18:48 that she had gotten hired back into our county school system. So- Yay, more Jimmy time. More Jimmy time. Yeah, we're very, very excited about it. So, and that's, they're going down to my sister's house on the Kissimmee River for the next couple of days. So we're gonna be babysitting baby Jimmy.

1:19:12 So, yeah, I'm just ecstatic about it. And we can continue the playground plans for our backyard, most importantly. Yay! Man, that's going to be awesome. Yeah. So, very happy about that. Okay. That is awesome, Colonel. The heartstrings never break. No, no. He is definitely the apple of my eye. All right.

1:19:37 So thanks everybody for being here. I am going to go have dinner with my other sister that's not away and Brian and Dwayne Cates. And I will be joining Alpha tonight at 9.30 as far as I know. I haven't heard from him in a couple of days.

1:19:55 Anyway, yeah, and thank you, Megha, for the comments about the show. If you guys missed it yesterday at six o'clock on Book Club on Badlands Media, I joined CanCon and Ash. We're going over this ridiculously stupid book called Stolen Elections and just basically pointing out all of the errors in it and all of the bullshit that's in it. And there's a lot.

1:20:25 I would have never, ever, I'm glad they're doing it. I would have never done this book other than to say, throw it in the trash, everything in it's a lie. But it does play out in going through a book like this that's supposedly written by a man based on a CIA agent's information.

1:20:47 to be able to explain to people when you're reading things, even though it happens to be a published book, does not mean it's true. And as I pointed out yesterday, and CanCon understood the significance of it being a Marine, that they couldn't even figure out that General Franks was the CENTCOM commander and put him in this book as if he was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, trying to elevate his importance. And when they do that,

1:21:17 It lessens the credibility, even if anything else in the book is true. If they're willing to go to that extent to try to hoodwink you about the importance of some of the players in this book, you have to look at the whole book with a jaundiced eye, which, of course, I did. SR, go ahead. Just a quick note, Colonel. On the show with CanCon and Ash.

1:21:43 What I really want to say about this is that Colonel is delivering an excellent educational whole deal about how you should be reading and what you should be doing. Yes. It is unbelievable. Yeah, and it really is how I go through these books for presentation to you guys.

1:22:11 Probably half of the books that I have, I would never bring to you because again, there's a whole lot of reading with maybe one or two nuggets, which I'll do a post on so that we all stay collectively up to speed on it. But it does allow you the ability to see how bad some of these books really are.

1:22:36 I don't know how well this book is selling, but it's bamboozled a lot of people. I mean, Laura Logan had these guys on her show. She talks about their information, which is basically bullshit. And even Rasmussen has highlighted this book repeatedly on X and promoting it as if it's facts.

1:22:59 Quite frankly, just in the first couple of chapters that we've talked about, I've now read the whole book, but the first couple of chapters, what they present as facts is either not facts or they're assumptions with no basis at all. There's literally no evidence in this book. So it's been very interesting, to say the least.

1:23:25 Anyway, okay, so we will continue that series next Tuesday at six o'clock. And I am going to be starting on Sunday on the road, but we're still going to be doing the shows for next week as well. So anyway, you guys have a nice evening and I will see you back here tomorrow. Take care.

Entities here

Allen Dulles37 United States26 Adolf Hitler17 Edward Schultz17 Germany15 Franklin D. Roosevelt14 Switzerland13 Nazi Party11 Eleanor Dulles10 Nuremberg trials8 Auschwitz7 Meeting between Dulles and Schultz7 U.S. State Department7 Bern7 Schultz report7 Nuremberg7 Vrba and Wetzler's escape6 Sullivan & Cromwell6 Vrba-Wetzler report6 Stolen Elections6 St. Louis refugee crisis6 Stephen S. Wise6 Fritz Kolbe5 Herman Pell5 Heinrich Himmler5 Hungary5 Henry Morgenthau Jr.5 Breckinridge Long5 Hermann Goring5 Rudolf Vrba4 West Germany4 Alfred Wetzler4 World War II4 John Watson Foster4 Washington, D.C.4 West Berlin4 Reverend Alan Macy Dulles4 Zurich3 Isidore Koppelman3 Leland Harrison3

Claims made here

Allen Dulles sent Cordell Hull book_quoted ▶ 36:01

“Instead, Dulles sent off a routine cable on the report to Secretary of State Cordell Hall, a man Dulles knew would not lift a finger to help them, even though he was married to a Jewish woman. It was …”

Cordell Hull advised Franklin D. Roosevelt book_quoted ▶ 36:01

Franklin D. Roosevelt pressured Hungary book_quoted ▶ 36:31

“in Geneva and a group of students he recruited to make 50 copies of the report. The eyewitness account of life and death inside Auschwitz finally broke into the Swiss press and was then picked up by t…”

Adolf Hitler ordered_assassination_of Hungary book_quoted ▶ 36:59

“In October 1944, Hitler ordered a Nazi takeover of the government in Budapest and they began again. In the final months of the war, the U.S. and British finally opened a second front in the war and Hi…”

Franklin D. Roosevelt vowed Nuremberg trials book_quoted ▶ 37:29

“The glory that was European civilization had gone up in human smoke. But FDR was determined to keep his vow that he had made repeatedly throughout the war, that he would bring to justice the perpetrat…”

Allen Dulles had_other_plans Nuremberg trials book_quoted ▶ 37:29

Rebecca West covered Nuremberg trials book_quoted ▶ 38:29

“Hitler, and so it wasn't a coincidence that they used Nuremberg for the trial. By 1945, it had been reduced to rubble. The Royal Air Force and U.S. Army Air Force bombers had swarmed overhead and dest…”

Adolf Hitler designated_successor Hermann Goring book_quoted ▶ 39:26

“as was the Reich's master propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, escaping the executioner by his own hands. So we're told. But the Nuremberg prosecutors had managed to assemble a representative spectrum of Hi…”

Rudolf Höss fled_to Scotland book_quoted ▶ 39:56

“by dignitary Rudolf Hess, Hitler's half-mad deputy who had flown to Scotland in 1941 to cut a peace deal with Britain. Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Hitler's scar-faced executioner and highest-ranking SS leade…”

Hjalmar Schacht financed Adolf Hitler book_quoted ▶ 39:56

Julius Streicher publisher_in Nuremberg book_quoted ▶ 40:25

“Albert Speer, the architect of Hitler's imperial dream and master of his weapons assembly line, Julius Strecher, the unhinged politician and publisher that grew a media empire based in Nuremberg. Nure…”

Albert Speer architect_for Adolf Hitler book_quoted ▶ 40:25

Wilhelm Frick declared Adolf Hitler book_quoted ▶ 41:29

“Hitler, defendant Wilhelm Frick, the Reich's Minister of Interior, declared in 1935, I have no conscience. Adolf Hitler is my conscience. The most egotistical defendants, like Goring and Slatt, struck…”

Robert Jackson warned Nuremberg trials book_quoted ▶ 42:56

“The documentary was made by a Hollywood director, Billy Wilder, who was an Austrian born Jew who had fled Hitler, who compiled it from scraps of film from the U.S. Army Signal Corps. In his opening st…”

Joseph Stalin insisted_on Nuremberg trials book_quoted ▶ 45:30

“fitting punishment that they originally favored taking the law into their own hands and just shooting people. Churchill estimated the number would be somewhere between 50 and 100 men. The prime minist…”

Joseph Stalin stated Winston Churchill book_quoted ▶ 45:58

“lecturing his Western allies on the merits of due process. Uncle Joe took an unexpected, ultra-respectable line, Churchill wrote Roosevelt after the meeting with Stalin in Moscow in October of 1944. T…”

Joseph Stalin lectured Winston Churchill book_quoted ▶ 45:58

Franklin D. Roosevelt came_around_to Nuremberg trials book_quoted ▶ 46:25

“Roosevelt finally came around to the idea of an international war crimes tribunal, but once again, he had to face stiff opposition in his own State Department. Foreign service legend George Kennan, wh…”

Herman Pell asked Franklin D. Roosevelt book_quoted ▶ 48:18

“We certainly have moved past that. So they spend quite a bit of time here about talking about Pell and his relationship with FDR and how the State Department tried to keep him from even going over the…”

General Motors owned Opel book_quoted ▶ 49:48

“Pell mentioned that you can't forget about one of the big war factories in Germany being the Opel Company, which was owned and financed by General Motors Corporation, a company in which Secretary Sten…”

Edward Stettinius Jr. had_interest_in General Motors book_quoted ▶ 49:48

Allen Dulles worked_for Sullivan & Cromwell book_quoted ▶ 52:15

“they will filter it based on what their motivation is. And obviously, Alan Dulles' motivation was the corporate entities that he basically was still representing in an intelligence organization called…”

Allen Dulles involved_in Versailles Treaty book_quoted ▶ 55:10

“In the aftermath of World War II, literally at every meeting, the Versailles Treaty, everywhere, the meeting in San Francisco that, you know, John Foster Dulles was intimately involved in writing that…”

Allen Dulles connected_to Prevost family caller_asserted ▶ 1:06:49

“Hey, sorry, I'm a little crazy busy, but I'll try and get it out as quickly as possible. I put a couple of things in the purple pill about connections. I don't know if any of you have heard about Alan…”

Astor family built Waldorf Astoria caller_asserted ▶ 1:07:16

“I also wanted to talk about the Astors. I didn't get a chance to chime in yesterday, but you brought up in Chapter 1 about the Waldorf Astoria. Yes. The Astor family is the one who first built the Wal…”

Nelson Rockefeller funded Carlos Andrés Pérez host_asserted ▶ 1:14:11

“I hope I'm saying that word correctly. Example would be like in Venezuela right now. So the two CIA guys who, as you know, were training the Venezuelan, quote, security forces in the dictator Perez's …”

Hank Hernandez trained Venezuela host_asserted ▶ 1:14:11

Manny Pena trained Venezuela host_asserted ▶ 1:14:11

Manny Pena covered_up Robert Kennedy assassination host_asserted ▶ 1:14:39

“were Hank Hernandez and Manny Pena, right? And then they went back into sunny Los Angeles, California, and they ran the RFK assassination investigation, and they had some pretty good hints. Yeah. Righ…”

Hank Hernandez covered_up Robert Kennedy assassination host_asserted ▶ 1:14:39

Tommy Franks headed United States Central Command documented ▶ 1:20:47

“to be able to explain to people when you're reading things, even though it happens to be a published book, does not mean it's true. And as I pointed out yesterday, and CanCon understood the significan…”