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The Colonel’s Corner-Strange Tales of the Parapolitical Part 6

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0:00 Good afternoon, Colonel Tanner. I'm just sending out invites for everybody. I just did a post and said, come out, come hop in and learn how corrupt the CIA is. Colonel Tanner's on. That's it. That's what we do every day. I see Miss Bridget. Okay. Let's put her up here. It's already kicked me out once. I'm going to go over here and fire up.
0:35 Rumble. And if people don't mind reposting the space, let's let everyone know because we do know that Colonel Towner, Bridget and everyone gets censored and not shown as much. So let's let's quote post it out and let's break the algorithms because there's so much happening. Holy cow. Yeah. And today will be our because it's Wednesday. So it's going to be a short day. I will be on Alpha Warrior this evening.
1:14 And at 930 Eastern Time. And we are going to talk about a very interesting follow on to USAID. Y'all aren't going to want to miss it because we're going to talk about a whole bunch of corrupt companies inside the United States. So there'll be a very interesting segment. Okay.
1:44 We're going to go ahead. I know we're a couple of minutes early, but I want to go ahead and get started only because we're going to have to finish earlier today. Over on Rumble, you are still showing the intro. Okay. Well, I don't understand why because I'm looking at myself and it says that I'm live. Okay. I got nothing.
2:16 I can't help. I wish I could. OK, there you are. There you are. There you are. Sorry. It was a delay. Thank you. Yeah, sure. OK, we're going to go ahead and get started. Now, keep in mind where we're at. We are talking about the circle and some of the.
2:48 hangers-on of Operation Gladio, their enabler parts, their appendages, whatever you want to call it. So that's where we're at. And basically, we're at the part in talking about, ironically enough, terrorism. And probably a good way to start this thing off is I want everybody, because
3:15 We're doing all of this history so that we can better understand what's going on in the country today. Now, we know, and I want you guys as active as you've ever been. We know that the National Security Council in the past has executive orders, action memorandums, all of that stuff that says.
3:44 Here's what you're authorized to do based on these designations. And you guys remember that originally the designation to assassinate people was basically only communist. But right around the time the wall fell, we had to add terrorist. And then everybody became a terrorist because communist was no longer the proper or we didn't have enough of them. They weren't the appropriate boogeyman. We're going to transition into another boogeyman.
4:15 And that became terrorist. And so all the subsequent presidents had to do was claim that someone was a terrorist. The only problem with that was the CIA, just like back in the day when they created the Bolshevik Revolution and quote unquote communism. Now everybody looks, you know, the whole hammer nail thing. Everybody looks like a terrorist now if they want to kill you. And the problem underlying all of it is.
4:44 Who are we getting the intelligence from on who's who? Right. That matters. So the intelligence in the past had been based on the CIA and the CIA. Every time they wanted to kill someone for the international syndicate, they magically became a communist until they magically became a terrorist. And that was a justification. And just like in the case with Assad.
5:13 You know, we're going to try to assassinate him. The same thing with Omar Gaddafi. They all became terrorists. They staged plane crashes to then claim somebody was a terrorist, just like they staged plane crashes to claim that Castro was a communist so that they could go after him. This is a very dangerous slope. And I don't want anyone to.
5:41 not be able to speak up coherently about the risk associated with where they get their intelligence from. So it just obviously said that Marco Rubio designated all of these different groups as terrorists. Well, that's fine. Okay, they're terrorists. Who created the terrorists? Who trained the terrorists? Who equipped the terrorists?
6:11 funded them, and I'm going back to the CIA. All of the terrorist networks were created initially by the CIA to include all the drug networks. So we're basically using CIA intelligence to determine who the good guys and bad guys are, which is the same people that created the bad guys.
6:43 And how do we know that we're not back in 1972 when we're doing the quote unquote war on drugs and all we're doing is eliminating the competition? That's the risk you run, number one, when you can't trust your government and when you rely on the CIA for anything, because they're a corrupt bunch of criminals. So just be apprised that.
7:14 we still need to be very cautious about what's going on and vocal about what the slippery slope is because there is definitely a slippery slope. Okay, so back to our book. All right, so we talked about the two, well, basically the circle people and
7:50 that VDB, which was, let me go back and find his name, because they started using his initials, and since we're starting a new segment, I wanted to go back and get his actual name. So hold on just a second while I find that. It's something D, crazy last name.
8:23 Hold on. All right. Of course, I won't be able to find it right away. Basically, you have members of the circle and they have been intimately involved in vice rings involving children. And they were linked to that. One of the. The.
8:54 B-O-N-B-O-I-S-I-N, Bonvoisin, was linked to them by Latimus, who was basically one of them. He was recruited into it. So Latimus said that the children provided a quote-unquote insurance policy.
9:24 Where have I heard that term before? Huh. That's weird. And that they use that to keep people quiet. The wife of a guy by the name of Dr. Pinnon, P-I-N-N-O-N, ran a child vice ring as well with people from the circle. And it involved members of the Belgian political parties.
9:56 Latimer's knowledge of these dealings did not seem to do him much good since he quote unquote committed suicide in 1984. We would refer to it based on the circumstances of the suicide as being suicided. So these people in the circle would later feature prominently in the Mark Dutro scandal.
10:25 Mark Dutro, of course, we know, was the Belgian pedophile and serial killer that was finally arrested in 1996. He was accused of having kidnapped, tortured, and sexually abused children between the age of 8 and 19, four of whom they confirmed died because they found their dead bodies in his house. A close associate of Dutro had been Michael Niehal.
10:54 N-I-H-O-U-L. He was a businessman with a long history of criminal activity. The Dutroux investigation began to unfold and allegations emerged that Dutroux had kidnapped several girls for Nihal, who had in turn set up a pedophile ring catering to people coming into Brussels and NATO headquarters.
11:23 This spurred several witnesses who had been involved in the network to come forward. They named the people in La Circle and these allegations are especially disturbing in light of the accusations that was going on at the Dignity Colony in Chile, where many of their victims at the colony had been picked up and kidnapped in Germany.
11:54 and shipped to Chile. There is at least one direct link between the academy and the colony. Joseph, excuse me, Franz Joseph Strauss, who provided the academy with all of its initial money. Beyond that, von Voisin would become a circle regular, and in 1980s, he began to encounter Strauss.
12:26 and became one of his agents. An indirect connection comes from the form of the above-mentioned Count Hans Graf Huynh. And I'm going to spell his last name. His first name is Hans, and then Graf, G-R-A-F, and Huynh, H-U-I-N. You will recall that he was a member of the IFD, which was a circle auxiliary.
12:57 along with Dr. Lothar Bossel, B-O-S-S-L-E, and another guy by the name of Dieter Blumenwitz, who became crucial colony backers in the 1980s, who had been very active in the academy since 1972. Then there was also an Opus Dei connection. During the years of 1985 and 86,
13:27 Jacques Thoma, T-H-O-M-A, who was involved with the youth wing of the party social cretin, P-S-C, alleges that he attended several mass orgies. The details of Thoma provided from at least one of these orgies was incredible. And this is what he had to say. They involved Satanism.
13:57 drinking blood, also children in the 13 or 14 year old range, one of whom reportedly died on an altar as a sacrifice. When Toma asked what the purpose of this spectacle was, he was told that it was an Opus Dei initiation ritual. The guy that wrote this book said he felt compelled to emphasize that these are allegations.
14:28 And what's more, cases of sexual abuse committed by these figures directly linked to Opus Dei are relatively rare, but not non-existent. The allegations are interesting in light of the epidemic of child abuse committed at the Colony Dignity. The strong presence of Opus Dei in Chile and the reputed
14:57 Opus Dei member Franz Joseph Strauss patronage funding of the colony. But certainly there is a certain degree of speculation involved in all of it because obviously no one has been convicted of the connection between Opus Dei and all of this. It's just saying.
15:26 that there is an overlap of all of these people and the academy, the colony, as far as people and the people funding and creating these things. They're basically, the author is trying to paint patterns of behavior where you can speculate as to what they all mean.
15:53 Regardless, there can be little question that the Circle Complex had extensive links to the Gladio networks. On one hand, both the Circle Complex and Gladio were linked with Catholic orders like Opus Dei and the Knights of Malta. The hierarchy of both the Circle and various Gladio networks appear to be common with many Opus Dei participants.
16:23 and the Knights of Malta. On the other hand, the circle also maintained extensive contacts with Gladio networks through numerous groups, one of which, of course, was the propaganda duo and all of its branch that we now have learned about. The academy was also another one that coordinated activity between the two. It linked a genter press, the propaganda
16:52 lodge offices, and various Belgium people to the strategy of tension, and a genter press and P2 in particular are linked to terrorism, not just in Europe and not just in Italy, but all over the world. As such, it should be little surprise that there are links between Gladio and Condor. And equally unsurprising, the Circle Complex
17:25 ties to Condor as well. A crucial figure who links the sprawling network together was the legendary Italian fascist Stefano Dellece. And I'm going to spell his last name. It's two names, D-E-L-L-E-C-H-I-A-I-E. Dellece appears to have been, he came to the attention of the Circle Complex.
17:54 As early as 1959, Italian industrialist, read that as oligarch, Carlos Pesenti, P-E-S-E-N-T-I, would begin funding De La Chez and his fascist militia that was referred to as Avanguardia Nazionale, A-N. Pesenti provided the A-N network.
18:24 with a monthly stipend to do their work. Pacente would go on to become a key patron of both the Academy and the Circle. He became an especially influential member of the Circle, and in his autobiography, David Rockefeller mentions the Circle as the Pacente group. That's how much money
18:51 He spent on the circle activities. In 1965, Delachey would play a key role in formulating the strategy of tension. We already know it was established well before that. He's just crafting parts of it. He became a founding member of a genter press with the Siroc in 1966.
19:22 1969, the strategy of tension was hitting its stride in Italy when the Piazza Fontana was bombed. Both Delaschet and his AN gang, along with the Genter Press, were implicated in the bombing. Delaschet also was linked to one of the final and most devastating incidences.
19:49 In the strategy of tension in Italy, it obviously wasn't the final one, and that was the Bologna massacre that left 85 dead. Dallasche was also a P2 member. In 1970, Dallasche and the AN organization would participate in Operation Tora Tora, T-O-R-A, Tora Tora, which was an attempted coup of Italy.
20:21 that had the CIA backing. The leader of this coup was the Black Prince, Prince Borghese. During World War II, Borghese had led the murderous partisan campaign in Mussolini's Republic that resulted in the death of hundreds of Italians that they had deemed communistic in nature. And basically, they were just rebelling against Mussolini, not necessarily communist.
20:51 At the end of the war, Borghese was set to be hanged by the Italians that were in control of the government at the time. But CIA, then OSS, James Jesus Angleton saved his life because they intended to use him as part of Operation Gladio. This may help explain why the Borghese coup
21:20 as Operation Tora Tora was called off at the last minute because some of the members had seized the interior ministry from orders, quote unquote, from above, which was basically the CIA. Undeterred, the Black Prince and Dallashay made for Madrid in the aftermath of the aborted coup. And it was the CIA that called it off, by the way, because they felt like it had been compromised.
21:49 And of course, Spain is where Otto Skorzeny, a fascist internationalist, has its home. So no big surprise there. And of course, Otto Skorzeny took in Delachey and the Black Prince and provided them with a place to stay. Their close relationship with Otto Skorzeny basically revealed that he
22:19 viewed Delachey as a protege and someone that he could pass off some of his specialty skilled training to. It would also seem that Delachey worked closely with the Paladin group, P-A-L-A-D-I-N, during this time. The Paladin outfit had been founded by Gerhard Hartmut von Schubert.
22:48 Sometime around 1968, von Schubert was a veteran of Goebbels' propaganda ministry. Prior to the founding of Paladin Group, he had helped train Peron's secret police and disseminate propaganda on behalf of Nasser in Egypt. Skorzeny also had dealings in Egypt, having been hired to train and assist
23:18 their security forces in the 1950s. Paladin had also been described as an international directorship of strategic assault personnel straddled the watershed between paramilitary carried out by troops in uniforms and the political warfare which was conducted by civilian agents. In essence, it was a private intelligence group and mercenary firm.
23:45 what would now be known as a private military company. In a sense, Paladin blazed the trail and became the first one. It was also thought that companies like DynCorp and Blackwater followed in its footsteps. By all accounts, it was the head and shoulders above the rest. One former OAS, which remember is France's paramilitary gladio operators,
24:16 involved in Paladin described it as undoubtedly the most serious of all private intelligence and action services that was around. Paladin's clients included the service intelligence of Spain and Greece and South Vietnamese government. Now, I want to point out something. Spain is a dictatorship that's in bed with the CIA. Greece was under the, we had cooed that government.
24:45 And that was the coup of the five colonels, one of which was Papadopoulos, if you remember. So it's under the control of the CIA. And, of course, South Vietnam at this time is under the control of either France or the CIA and or both. So basically what this author is saying is Paladin was a company that the CIA hired.
25:11 to basically monitor or occupy countries that had already been overthrown by the CIA to make sure they didn't get out of line. Their corporate clients included Cadbury Chocolates and Rhine Metal. In many English languages sources, Skorzeny is typically described as the actual founder of the Paladin Group. However,
25:42 This author did not find any evidence of that. But if you go to Major Gannis' book in the Skorzeny's papers, he basically gives you the trail. It is beyond question that Skorzeny had some involvement in Paladin. Initially, the Paladin organization largely drew from the ranks of other Nazis and French.
26:11 OAS, which were the fascist element in France, that was kind of the ones that cooperated with Hitler during the war. They are also the ones that wanted to keep all of the French colonies as slaves. It is likely that many of the OAS men were involved in Ciroc's agenture press network in Portugal, which is true.
26:40 Also, Skorzeny had helped Siroc establish a gentrish press paramilitary organization around the same time, which is also true because Skorzeny trained not only a gentrish press people, but also the OAS. Because if you guys recall, they had set up paramilitary training bases all along the border of Spain and France. Paladin's British affiliate.
27:10 was Watchguard International, another early military intelligence corporation. Watchguard had been founded by SAS co-founder David Sterling, who was a colonel. Sterling was a close associate of the Circle and all of its British partners. As such, Paladin already had an interesting cast of characters at its disposal.
27:40 when Dallaché arrived. Now that Paladin group's ranks were growing, it included many Italian fascists. This unleashed a wave of terror in Spain in the early to mid-1970s, which resulted in over a thousand attacks that left 50 dead and hundreds wounded. As such, Paladin appears to have played a similar role in Spain as it did in Portugal.
28:11 increasing the strategy of tension. Delachais also appears to have forged ties with Baron Benoit de Van Voisin around this same time. In 1975, Delachais attended a gathering of European fascists at Van Voisin's castle, Orden Nouveau, which is the New Order, and MSI.
28:48 as well as UK's National Front and Spain's fascist elements. Naturally, Belgium was represented by Front de la Journée. However, by the mid-1970s, Delachey was increasingly drawn to Latin America. Naturally, Penichet's Chile would call out to Delachey, and in 1974, he and Prince Borghese
29:19 The black prince from Italy paid them a visit. He was received by Pinochet himself. Delachey would go to work for Dina, which was the secret police that tortured and assassinated and kidnapped everybody in Chile. By the middle of the day, Delachey had reportedly been provided with his own office in Santiago by Dina. Delachey would go on to work closely with none other than Michael Vernon Townley.
29:49 who was the CIA guy working on Operation Condor in the area. The most notable was the assassination of Bernardo Leighton, a former Chilean interior minister in Rome. By the late 1970s, he had also established a presence in Bolivia.
30:20 and he worked closely with the Fiance of Death, which was a private army supported by the military dictatorship that had been installed in Bolivia by the CIA. The Fiance of Death were comprised of the inevitable collection of former Nazis and OAS men. They also had additional fascist
30:50 from all over Europe. The group was headed by an individual that we all know, former Gestapo and SS man, Kloss Barbie. It will be recalled that Barbie was a key South American business partner in the arms company ran by Otto Skorzeny called Murex and his business partner, Gerhard Martens. Barbie also was a key business associate.
31:22 of P2 Grand Master Geli in South America. It's interesting to note that Barbie and Delachais had also participated in many of the same Gladio operations in Europe and in many of the same ones in South America under Condor. Barbie had been recruited by the Army Counterintelligence Corps in 1947 to assist in setting up
31:51 additional German stay-behind networks, and this network crystallized into a thing called the BDJ, which was then exposed in the 1950s. It necessitated Barbie's flight to South America when it got discovered. Barbie would later represent the Bolivian Intelligence Agency.
32:18 in at least one meeting dealing with Operation Condor. Delachey would also follow in Barbie's footsteps into the Bolivian cocaine industry. Because again, all of this is tied to each other. It's one network. So the author says that if you look at, he basically is calling this thing a black orchestra.
32:48 We call it the International Syndicate. And he described it as a confederate of organizations linked to terrorism, assassination, arms and drug trafficking. And of course, he's describing the Operation Gladio aspect of it. And he mentions all of the different components and that Otto Scorsese seemed to have been at the head of it for the training.
33:20 both not only in Europe, but also of the people that were forward deployed into Latin America. Some of these units were incorporated into Operation Bloodstone, which became a gladio-type project targeting the Soviet satellites. Skorzeny went to work in the old Safendis network, then under the control of the World Commerce Corporation, a private intelligence company of SOE, the Brits.
33:50 OSS veterans, and by the late 1960s, Skorzeny had become a key factor in this Operation Gladio slash Condor network. His paladin group, along with the Ginger Press and Delachey's Avant-Guardia Nationali, were among the pillars of the network. Many of these groups would participate in acts of terrorism linked to Gladio. At the same time, the Circle
34:19 brought aboard some interesting partners. In the early years, the circle was largely dominated by reactionary Catholic orders like the Knights of Malta and Opus Dei. Beginning in the mid to late 1960s, they began to forge crucial alliances along with the Brits and the Americans' intelligence agencies. On the British side, Brian Cozier brought his SOE
34:48 veterans to the Circle Complex. Among the American partners were several former OSS men and current CIA people like William Casey. Casey, it will be recalled, worked for William Donovan's law firm back in Buffalo and the same law firm that did legal work for the World Commerce Corporation. Both Donovan and Casey would also be Knights of Malta.
35:17 They also had connections to the Circle. By the early 70s, the Circle complex appeared to have forged close ties with the Black Orchestra or Operation Gladio, which Otto Skorzeny was a key figure of. The same Otto Skorzeny had forged all of the alliances with the World Commerce Corporation at the beginning of the 1950s and joined the Circle and Gladio.
35:47 In any case, the alliance created what this author calls a special operations mafia. I don't know why you make up names. It's called Operation Gladio, but whatever. This nexus brought together veterans of the British, American, and Nazi special forces to engage in covert operations in a private capacity. In some cases, there was no doubt working on behalf of the Brits and American intelligence.
36:17 services, but he also thinks that they had their own agenda. What he doesn't realize is, again, and this is a common fallacy. People look at this, and I did too originally, so it's not like a knock or anything. You are under the impression that the British intelligence service actually works for the British, and you're under the impression that the CIA actually works for the United States government. They don't.
36:46 And the reason why it looks like they have their own agenda is because they don't have their actual own agenda. They all work for the International Syndicate. And they take their orders from this International Syndicate because the International Syndicate wants access to the resources in the countries they're going to go overthrow. And the more research you do on this topic, the more evident that becomes. So what about the colony? Clearly, it was a part of this network.
37:16 On one hand, the colony was in contact with the Circle via Strasse. The Circle auxiliaries in Europe were mobilized to protect the colony and did so against amnesty international attempts to document what was going on there. On the other hand, the colony enjoyed contact with many parts of this to include
37:39 The paramilitary, because they were a storage of weapons, they were manufacturing weapons there, and they were a terrorist training camp. Much like Jim Jones in Jonestown. A key colony backer was Gerhard Martens, who was Skorzeny's partner. Then there's Stefano Dallasche himself, who was also a guest at the colony.
38:05 While the colony's connection to Condor is very well known, its ties to Delachais raise the possibility that it was also linked to Gladio. It also indicates the connection between Otto Skorzeny and Martins and the colony further documents that it was an extension of Operation Gladio. And it was Martins who was approached to supply arms to General Spinola.
38:34 to participate in the Portuguese strategy of tension with the Jinter Press. Spinola's efforts also appear to have received the support from the same organization, The Circle. The colony seemingly enjoyed impeccable contacts throughout the entire network of both Condor and Gladio, both from street-level terrorists who were trained there and armed there.
39:00 but also from people like Dallashay, who was fairly high up in the network. And of course, they received funding from Strauss, who basically ran one aspect of it. While many of these contacts emerged after the Pinochet coup, it is important to remember that when the Chilean DINA first made contact with the German BND, which is Reinhard Galen, Otto Skorzeny's boss, the Germany's, let's see, it was the colony that made the introduction.
39:31 So again, you have the special secret police, DINA, who were trained by the CIA, and they're meeting the BND, and you have the colony in the middle of those introductions. The colony clearly had intelligence ties. This also validates claims that the colony was a crucial node, not just in Operation Condor.
40:00 but in Operation Gladio as well, acting as a coordinating center in Latin America for international operations and a critical portion of the strategy of tension. The shock, let's see, in 2007, journalist Naomi Klein published her now classic, The Shock Doctrine, and I've quoted her before in threads. The rise of disaster capitalism.
40:29 As the title implies, this work was cheap among concerns with the effects of a sudden privatization of the nation's economy and the aftershocks that it creates. Now, let me back up just a second. So we know that this is all about resources. So I'm going to use two different examples.
40:59 In the case of Chile, that had been a democracy for 100 years, there were basically no government owned entities. They were all private because they were a democracy. And that is a usually when the CIA installs a dictator, they will collectively.
41:33 nationalize temporarily anything that's in the hands of patriots. So it looks like they're going to be a communist, even though they overthrew it because they wanted to get rid of a designated communist. It's crazy. But then what happens is it's a reappropriation of whatever those assets are. So let's just take for...
42:02 an example and pretend that ITT didn't own the phone company. And let's just say that was another owner that was a patriot that didn't like the fact that Allende had been murdered and Pinochet had been installed. What Pinochet would do is appropriate that company and say, we're going to nationalize it. But then as soon as that guy basically got disappeared, he would resell it.
42:32 to an oligarch that the CIA had approved of. In the case of Russia, after the fall of the Soviet Union, where everything had been owned by the government, there is a period of privatization. And when that happened, the venture capitalists in the United States, like Broward,
43:01 And Safra, the guy that funded his hermitage capital fund, would go in and basically, like scum sucking sharks, scoop up all the privatization. And that was one of the reasons why they would overthrow countries is so that they can monopolize the resources and the businesses after the fact. So I just want everyone to understand that there are different.
43:30 um faces to how this whole thing but the whole bottom line the goal of everything is to get as much of the money producing thing um like squeezing blood out of a turnip they want as anything in that country that could possibly make a profit they want in the hands of the international syndicate however they do it and there are different ways of doing it so naomi klein talks about this
44:01 in what she calls the shock doctrine, the rise of disaster capitalism. So you create a disaster, i.e. Operation Gladio Coups, in order to effect capitalism or what is billed as capitalism when in fact it's actually fascism because you are going to install a dictator to ensure the oligarchs have the resources and a monopoly on those resources so there's no...
44:30 competition and therefore no capitalism. It normally happens, the point she makes, is when there is a sudden privatization of a nation's economy and there are aftershocks, which is why she refers to it as the shock doctrine. The shock doctrine, which frequently is employed in a different
45:05 scenario of traumas to fundamentally alter a nation, you know, like a coup. While Klein tends to focus on the shots brought about by the Chicago School of Economics, she compellingly argues that other aspects of this trauma were based on techniques developed by the MKUltra program and other CIA Pentagon behavior modification experiments.
45:35 Klein in particular singled out Chile, describing the Pinochet-led coup and the years that followed as a laboratory in which the shock doctrine was first deployed. She noted three stages that have been repeated over and over again by U.S.-backed regime changes ever since. First, there's an initial shock of a coup or some man-made disaster. Then, followed by...
46:03 the shock of the Chicago school-styled privatization and the shock of rampant torture to disenfranchise anyone from standing up. In Chile, these techniques were employed with pinpoint precision. In particular, Pinochet and his supporters appeared to have keenly been aware that propaganda was necessary.
46:33 as well as torture. One of the most shocking aspects of Pinochet's coup and subsequent military dictatorship was just how bloodless it was. Like they didn't do like Taiwan and they were like spearing people in the streets with bayonets. In total, about 3,200 individuals were killed and disappeared. But generally,
47:01 they were disappeared and killed out of sight. Like the guy, Dan Meteoroni, that went down there and was torturing people in the basement, and then they disposed of the bodies. It was largely done outside of sight, but it was still traumatic shock, the fact that it was happening and people were talking about it.
47:30 So after 17 years of a military dictatorship, if you take Penashe and contrast it with Argentina in their military dictatorship, they were markedly different, almost like they're experimenting on which one's going to give them the best bang for the buck. So in Argentina, about 9000 people are between. Sorry.
48:00 Up to 30,000 people were murdered, depending on whose numbers you use. Of course, the official government numbers was as low as 9,000, but most human rights organizations says it was more like around 30,000. Because, of course, remember, Argentina is the country where they were taking up so many dead bodies. They were taking them up in aircraft and dumping them out in the ocean so they didn't have to worry about burying them.
48:26 The intelligence battalion 601, which took the lead in Argentina's military, was commonly referred to this entire thing as a dirty war. They themselves estimated that there was 22,000 people murdered between the years of 75 and 78 alone. That's just three years. And that military coup, I think, lasted.
48:55 Over 10 years. After nearly two decades of power, Penashe had killed fewer of his own citizens than the Argentine military had in a single year. In 1976 alone, it was estimated that Argentine military had killed over 10,000 in just that one year. And yet Penashe still struck fear in the hearts of everybody.
49:26 A lot of this had to do with perception. The Argentine generals went to great lengths to depict themselves as moderates. Their coup was framed as a legitimate overthrow of a corrupt government. They received support from practically all major political parties and approval from major media outlets because they owned them. And by they, I mean the CIA. Even the demeanor of the generals was in stark contrast to Pinochet. No one donned a cape.
49:54 or dark glasses during the coup, and yet the brutality far exceeded anything seen under Pinochet. Despite this, Argentina's military rule did not so thoroughly traumatize the public to the extent that Pinochet did in Chile. Indeed, the great lengths appear to have been taken to keep the killings and general terror out of the public's eye. Pinochet embraced the propaganda of the deed.
50:23 In the immediate aftermath of the coup, the political opponents were rounded up and interned in Chile's National Stadium, where they were publicly subjected to MK-Ultra-like techniques. Panache then dispatched one of his most trusted generals on a tour of various prisons in the northern provinces. The subversives selected from these prisons were summarily executed as a public spectacle, and it was referred to as the Caravan of Death.
50:52 In the weeks following the coup, it became common for dead bodies to start showing up, not just in highways, but also in canals just floating down the water. The colony itself acquired a kind of a mystical status as a final resting place for anyone that opposed Penashe. Thus, while the Argentina military dictatorship comes off as
51:21 violent, Pinochet's was downright surgical. Pinochet recognized that limited violence used highly public fashion was devastating to a nation and thus murdering tens of thousands of people was not necessarily necessary. The same could be said for Operation Condor. Despite a fearsome reputation, it was responsible for a relatively
51:48 small number of deaths among the collective military dictatorships because it basically encompassed the entire area of South America and up into Central America. The real value of Condor came down to the assassinations and disappearance of anyone that they designated as a dissident. There was a clear message sent, don't mess.
52:18 with the regime. Again, the propaganda of the dead was a great value. Klein would continuously link these techniques back to the CIA, and she basically said that the author doesn't think that she was aware that Pinochet's methods were basically linked to the European Operation Gladio.
52:50 and the strategy of tension. Because when you read her writings, it is apparent that she did not make that connection. So the framework for the strategy of tension has been gradually laid at the end of World War II, and its birth is generally credited with a conference that was held in Rome. The conference was sponsored.
53:21 by an organization called Roberto, or excuse me, Alberto Palio Institute of Military Studies. It was a think tank with the purpose of developing a strategy and tactics for combating quote unquote communism. It had been set up in 1964 by Colonel Renzo Roca, R-O-C-C-A. And on behalf,
53:51 of the Italian intelligence service SIFAR, S-I-F-A-R. Roca was the head of SIFAR's Office of Economic and Industrial Research. While nominally concerned about industrial counter-espionage, Roca's unit also oversaw a large part of the Gladio network that had been set up in Italy. Because, again, that just makes sense if you understand this.
54:20 Gladio was set up to protect the industrial companies. Rocha received assistance for the latter endeavor from William King Harvey. And you guys will remember William Harvey because he's a CIA guy. At the time, Harvey was the CIA station chief in Italy. It also is interesting to note that Rocha's ultimate boss,
54:52 at the time, was none other than Julio Andriotti, the, at the time, Italian defense minister, who goes on to become the prime minister and is forced into admitting in 1990 that Gladio exists and they've been behind it the entire time. So it is very interesting that as the defense minister,
55:22 He was basically tied to setting up the entire thing. Andriotti enjoyed very close ties to the CIA and the secret services inside of Italy, first as defense minister and then later as prime minister. Andriotti was deeply involved in the Gladio planning over the years, and he also was a co-founder of the Circle.
55:50 He was also inducted into the Knights of Malta and a high up person in the P2 Lodge. So one of their conferences featured a topic called revolutionary warfare, the instrument of world expansion. The conference endorsed the view that the third world war.
56:20 had already began, and that it was being fought at a low level of military intensity, which, guys, this is exactly what the Fabian Society said, that after World War II, you would begin the Third World War, and it would go on until you have one world government via the strategy of tension. There you have it.
56:49 Communists were accused of the general disintegration of society through quote-unquote subversion, while in fact these assholes are the one doing it. So, unsurprisingly, there was a universal call to put in a revolutionary war in order to combat an enemy that didn't exist.
57:17 But of course, they call it a counter-revolutionary as if the communists was actually a threat. All right. And part of the agenda was the creation of clandestine, quote unquote, defense groups that would be used to battle the fictitious communists. So it just so happens that, of course, the Italian military had funded this.
57:49 conference and was already in the process of setting up the Gladio networks. And I would argue by the time this conference happened, they were already set up in large part. The conference attracted an interesting cast of characters. There was one guy by the name of Pio Filippani Ronconi, R-O-N.
58:20 C-O-N-I, who was a former SS Nazi, a journalist by the name of Renato Mili, M-I-E-L-I, who also was part of the Allied Psychological War Bureau as part of the OSS, and another guy, Guido Giannattini,
58:52 who also was a quote-unquote journalist, none of these guys are actually journalists, by the way, who was a Secret Service informant who in 1962 delivered a three-day lecture to U.S. military officers at the Naval Academy at Annapolis called Techniques and Possibilities of a Coup in Europe. Like, he basically gave a lecture on
59:22 his job description. And Giannattini was also Dallasche's principal contact inside the Italian Secret Services. One big happy family. Another interesting participant was a journalist by the name of Pino Rauti, R-A-U-T-I, who was the founder of Ordine Nuovo, which is O-N.
59:53 which is basically New Order. The New Order had been set up in 1956 initially to serve as a study center for all of the fascists, both Italian and German, that happened to be living in Italy. The group had began training its people in paramilitary training, and these are the guys that initially set up the training camps at Sardinia, which...
1:00:20 were largely used during the years of lead as part of Operation Gladio and the strategy of tension inside of Italy. He was good friends with Dallasche, who was also a member of the New Order in the 1950s, until he set up the more extreme AN later on. By all accounts, the Italian military was highly impressed with the presentations that happened.
1:00:50 at that conference. So it hired both of the presenters to prepare a pamphlet on basically asserting that there was an ongoing communist infiltration and subversion inside the Italian military, even though there was not, and that it was going to lead to
1:01:14 some type of communist overthrow of the Italian government. So, in other words, they arranged a propaganda campaign to scare the hell out of everybody in Italy at this conference. It also said that there was going to be included in the pamphlet a call for creating politicized elite units to defend the nation from communist subversion. They just so happen to look like Gladio cells.
1:01:48 That's totally unexpected, said no one ever. A year after the conference, Giannattini would publish something called The Techniques of Revolutionary Warfare, which would prove to be highly influential in the fascist networks all throughout Operation Gladio. He basically based the written product on the presentation made.
1:02:18 at the original conference. And it became required reading for anyone working in any of the fascist elements of Operation Gladio inside of Italy. In general, Giannattini and Rauti are both considered key architects of the strategy of tension, especially as it relates to Italy. So, it's little surprise that at this point, the unambiguous
1:02:49 Dalashe was also a participant at that same conference. And a year after the conference, Dalashe would become the co-founder of Agenda Press and set that same program up in Portugal. Agenda would become a key instrument of gladiator throughout Europe and into Africa in all of the Portuguese colonies.
1:03:15 In 1969, the Piazza Fontana bombing occurred, and it was basically orchestrated by all of the people that had been at that conference. So it obviously becomes very apparent, we're almost done with this section, that all of this was part and parcel of Operation Gladio. So a guy by the name of Ivan Mateo Lombardo,
1:03:47 was also in attendance at that conference. And you recall that Lombardo was one of the key principal members of the Academy and also a member of the P7 Belgium Operation Gladio elements as well. The Academy appears to have been a key coordinating body for the Strategy of Tension, Operation Gladio, and the elite networks of the Circle.
1:04:16 and the Bilderberg Group. The Academy was founded in 1969 and was in communication with Seurat and a genter press during that same year, which also was part of the Piazza Fontana bombing in Italy. Lombardo joined the Academy in 1970 and apparently became involved in the P7, the part in Belgium, not long afterwards.
1:04:44 Then there was the Belgian partners who also was all linked to the strategy of tension. That same conference that happened in 1965 began a massive push among the Europeans to set up a more formal structure overseeing all of their strategy of tension terrorist activities. And that's when you saw.
1:05:13 the creation of a lot of the splinter groups all under the same auspices though because they want plausible deniability so they they can't just have gladio they have to have these other like sub labels like the new order and the one that was called the um and vanguardia nationali um they set up all of these other ones so that if any one of them gets caught doing gladio shit it'll just look like it's that one thing
1:05:39 They're all Gladio. They just subdivide themselves into other organizations with a quote unquote leader so that it's plausible deniability for Gladio at all. Just so that you guys understand that. By 1968, the Paladin Group had also been launched. And in 1969, the Academy is created, which links all of them together and provides covert funding avenues for all of them.
1:06:10 At the core of this was the notion that terrorism was going to be able to destabilize a democracy and establish a military dictatorship if necessary. But in many cases, destabilizing the country drove people to seek bigger governments, which in and of itself was their overall goal.
1:06:39 all the better if they could pretend it was still a democracy, but destabilize the country enough for you to seek bare government like they did on 9-11. They would prefer that as opposed to actually having to overthrow the entire government and install a military dictatorship, because then, of course, you get all of the human rights and everybody else involved, and it's not as clean. But rest assured, all of this has everything to do with the strategy of tension.
1:07:08 And the creation of terror cells in order to create domestic terrorism. So that brings us to our next stopping point. And we can open it up for anyone that wants to talk about this. Initially, we're going to stick to this.
1:07:42 And then if we have enough time, we'll open it up for other comments. SR-71, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel, and thank everybody here for attending. I want to say this here, just listening to what was just said today and what you just read, I want everybody to understand World War II is completely over with.
1:08:12 And yet we have all of these Nazis floating around doing all of this stuff that for all intentional purposes, the American public understood we got rid of this shit. No, we didn't. And it just blows up. Yeah. And that really is kind of the key takeaway. And I want you guys just to pause for just a second.
1:08:42 SR-71 obviously said something very, very insightful. I have oftentimes referred to the fact that we live in a hologram. Now, I want you guys to all just take a deep breath and realize that your government was at creating a hologram, that they actually convinced you we want war.
1:09:16 That's the biggest fucking lie of our entire lifetime. We didn't defeat Nazism. And if your government is capable of creating that big of a hologram and then build upon it and create intelligence apparatuses to destroy what was left of our republic, because there really wasn't a whole lot left at that point anyway.
1:09:49 But they used that hologram of the biggest fucking lie ever that we actually won World War II and defeated Nazism because we did not. They killed a bunch of people, our best and brightest generation of patriots, to create a mirage that we had defeated Nazism only to disperse.
1:10:18 Behind our backs. Those same fucking Nazis. All over the world. To spawn. And rise up. Under Operation Gladio. If that's not the most evil. Bastards in the whole world. I don't know what is. It's crazy. Stellar go ahead. It really is crazy. Because when you think about it. My brother was a punk rocker. Back in the late 80's. Early.
1:10:54 late 70s, early 80s, and it was about anarchy against the government.
1:10:59 and all this other stuff. But in actuality, I'm thinking that the whole, that whole scene also was another PSYOP. Because if you look at all of, well, his friends, my brother too, they're all a bunch of Democrats that are like a bunch of, you know, want government to take care of everything. And they're absolutely the opposite of what they originally stood for. And it's just been one PSYOP after another, you know, after World War II, like what they were doing with the youth, with the brown shirts or whatever I think is what they called them, you know, and it's just continued on.
1:11:28 And I honestly, like you said, don't think that I think the Nazis won the war and their manipulation of propaganda. You know, when I used to live overseas, it was completely different what they were saying over there of what was going on in the United States. And I just believe that, you know, they've censored us or put up, you know, like if you want to say put a dome over us so that, you know.
1:11:52 true information didn't come through and thank goodness for these people that have written these books and and did discuss these different things and thank you and all of you guys for exposing and helping us to connect the dots because it's just been one sick um manip or whatever matrix or whatever it is you want to call whatever this reality is it's a hologram um
1:12:19 So Tin Man says over on Rumble that imagine how many of these ops are being directly funded by clandestine payments being uncovered by Doge. So let me address that for just a second, because I have a couple of points I want to make. We know that the drug networks were set up initially to pay for all of these operations.
1:12:48 The opium trade was created in the Golden Triangle. It was already existing. But the CIA, the OSS going into the CIA kind of harnessed an already existing opium trade. It's probably the best way to say that. In order to fund the off-the-books operations of setting up the Gladio networks to include
1:13:17 generating false flags to create military operations like Korea and Vietnam in order to generate weapons flows and other skirmishes involving other countries to generate a military-industrial complex.
1:13:54 A large portion of the money for the covert operations came from drug sales. And obviously, when they figured out that they also had their wealth for oligarchs, with the appropriation of taxpayer money by setting up USAID and the National Economic Democracy, they did that as well.
1:14:25 But I don't think that all of this is being funded. A lot of it is funded. But you cannot track is the assassination stuff. And because that's done through off the book operations funded by the the drug sales. So anyway. OK, so all along. Go ahead.
1:15:00 Um, yeah, Colonel, you're a great big breath. Go ahead. Um, okay. Artificial respiration is my name and it's worn proudly. Sorry. Um, let me be clear for a change. Your use of the word hologram is interesting. I find it's not a word that I have used a lot. So I had to, you know, look it up and it's to, to me, it seems really relevant.
1:15:30 OK, and in terms of a mixture, a combination of different light sources are used to create a 3D image. And I think that the key term in as far as I'm picking up, because I want to get your own thoughts about why you use that term. But for me, like what resonates in that term is the use of the fake left.
1:15:56 And what I mean by fake leftist, you know, the literal history of the compatible left, CIA's phrase that de-emphasized, you know, basically most of CIA history. I mean, basically, if you're an actual leftist and you claim to be for the working class, you have to talk about CIA history because every president since then has, you know, been for the rich. That's a short version. People don't have to agree. Fine.
1:16:25 Don't mistake me for a squirrel or a deer in 1978, please. But I'm like, so critical to me as far as the ingredient of that term is the use of the fake left to talk about anything except the CIA. So why do you use that term in particular? For all of those reasons. The way you actually set up a hologram with all of the different.
1:16:57 light rays to create the hologram. That's basically what they have done. They have used every element of their capabilities, whether it's the media or politics or unions or the chamber or political party, every element of our world, the Hollywood.
1:17:24 Every facet of your life, books, everything, schools, everything that you touch throughout your lifetime is fake. It is like it's being broadcast from some control booth for them to present a fake world around you.
1:17:51 And you live in a fake world. You cannot reach your hand out and touch something that's real. Nothing is real. Your bank account is not real because tomorrow they can take it all. Your house isn't real because tomorrow they can take it all. You don't actually have freedom of speech. That's a lie.
1:18:16 And who gives a shit if you have a Second Amendment right if you're too fucking scared to use it? Every aspect of our world has been carefully crafted to make us feel comfortable when the entire world is being brought down around us. The Republic was disassembled over 100 years ago. Do you know that? Do you live like you know that?
1:18:46 No, because it was carefully crafted to take it down while still giving you the appearance that it exists. That, to me, was like mind shattering. And that is one of the reasons that keeps me so passionately involved.
1:19:12 in educating people for them to wake the hell up and realize that everything, the movies aren't real. They're not even fake. Most of them are actually telling you what they're going to do to you. So the fake world is real and the real world is fake. To me, if that's not a hologram, I don't know what is. Real fake. So, yeah. Truth. Go ahead.
1:19:43 Hello. Thank you. Sorry, I just had a firetruck go by me. You know, you're speaking of Germany and I've kind of been doing a lot of reading and digging into history. And, you know, I know it's kind of a touchy subject when you talk about the Nazis and Hitler. And, you know, when you look at a lot of the old newspapers and information about that time frame, you know, it seems like Germany was dealing with a lot of the same stuff that we're dealing with now.
1:20:14 The transgenderism and the smut and all of this stuff that is, you know, kind of brought to us from the Rothschild, Kazarian, Bolsheviks, whatever you want to call them, clan. And that Nazi Germany was similar to Gaddafi was setting up his own central bank and trying to maybe wasn't as.
1:20:44 bad of a guy is what there's I'm not saying he was a good guy, but not like this. The story that we've been given about World War Two is mostly a lie. So I'm going to tell you that the story you've been given is a lie. But Hitler is not a good guy. If you go back in the part that those people who try to say, yeah, you read the newspapers from then. Well, if you read the newspapers from Reagan's administration, you'd think he was a great guy.
1:21:14 If you read the newspapers from Donald Trump's first term, you'd think he was a really bad guy. You cannot rely on any newspaper. Newspapers have been corrupt for as long as they've been able to print newspapers. So you cannot rely on any newspaper. And I know those people who try to make Hitler a good guy. And I'm not saying that's you. That's all bullshit. You just have to throw the newspaper shit right out the door. So you have to go back and you have to follow the money.
1:21:44 And when you go back and you follow the money, you learn very quickly that the same people that created the Bolshevik Revolution and communism created Hitler to a T. Every one of them. They all resided at the same office building in New York City, 120 Broadway. They all resided at the same banks and businesses in the city of London. And I'll give you just a couple of examples because they did it in both former Russia.
1:22:13 and in Germany. As a matter of fact, many of the companies that supported and funded Hitler in the United States and in Germany continued to, in the United States, fund him throughout World War II. So if these companies, which I refer to as the International Syndicate, that funded the communists to come to power in the former
1:22:43 created Russia and created communism, and those exact same people funded Hitler's rise to power, and they did, then you can't make the argument that Hitler's good if you're not going to make the argument that communism was good too. Because they actually brought Trotsky to the United States, put him up in an apartment and gave him a driver and money in a...
1:23:09 house with a refrigerator when no one at the time had a refrigerator in the United States except for the very, very wealthy. And they kept him here until they had already won the Bolshevik Revolution. And then they put him on a boat through Canada into the Soviet Union. And they did the exact same thing with Lenin, who had been hanging out in the city of London. So they put him on a train through Germany.
1:23:37 So wait a minute. I thought Germany didn't like the communist. Well, evidently, they didn't have a problem with the communist because the asshole drove, rode in a train right through Germany into Russia to create the Bolshevik Revolution. So what we have to come to grips with is literally there's an international syndicate that have twisted and paid for every,
1:24:07 crazy-ass thing in our history. These are the same people that owned all of the press way back then. They all owned the same banks. And by the way, if you go and you look at the use of these companies like GE, Ford, Carnegie Steel, all of the railroads, when the Bolshevik Revolution happened,
1:24:37 and they implemented quote-unquote communism in the Soviet Union that everybody supposedly hated, it was all of these companies that went over and built all of their entire railroad system. GE electrified communist Soviet Union. So if they really didn't like communists, they sure as hell got rich off of them, and they were all paid in the czar's gold.
1:25:03 As a matter of fact, Sweden was used as the quote unquote neutral country where they shipped gold bars into Sweden. They remelted them and stamped them with the Swedish bank and then brought them into the United States. So that's exactly what I'm saying. And in all wars are bankers wars. So they're making money off all sides. And I guess my point was certainly that that the H guy was not a good guy, but that the.
1:25:37 People on the other side of that were not good people either. None of them were good. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, thank you. Sure. Miles, go ahead. Hi, Colonel. We're on the front porch. We had a really great conversation. Carolina that is listening in the audience, we were talking about the control mechanism.
1:26:06 how to control the herd inside the hologram. And they had, you know, key phrases and words that would control you because if the indoctrination wasn't working or the mind control or, you know, brainwashing wasn't working, they'd always bring up these key words like, well, you're a racist. And they would, you know,
1:26:35 control us that way because then we felt, oh my God, no, I'm not that. I'm not a racist because there was always a group of rebels that weren't complying inside the herd. So we brought up another one, a key one that they've been using a lot for a while is anti-Semitic. I'm sure you're familiar with that. So we just had a really good conversation because
1:27:05 That was one of their control mechanisms for the herd to keep us in line. Now, something interesting came out today that we've talked about in the past is that when you take a group and then you say that they are terrorists, then certain things can happen to them. And so I'm glad that the cartels were labeled terrorists. We'll see how that works out for them. Thanks, Colonel.
1:27:34 Well, but Miles, I don't know if you missed the beginning of this. The labeling of someone as a terrorist and specifically the cartels relies on the CIA and foreign intelligence sources to tell you that this or that person is part of.
1:28:04 this or that quote unquote terrorist organization. And as long as you're relying on them, it's the same old thing that we got caught in before where it was only communists got labeled and then everybody became a communist. And as long as they're relying on faulty intelligence.
1:28:28 In order to delineate who the good guys and bad guys are, we're still in the same stupid position that we've always been. So we have no idea how many quote-unquote terrorists Obama killed that were designated as a terrorist based on intelligence that the CIA provided that may have just been competition. So we're still on that slippery slope, and I don't like that at all. Well, can we have a D.C. cartel?
1:29:00 Well, you're never going to get them labeled as a terrorist organization. But Carrie, go ahead. Yeah, I just want to talk about Naomi Klein a little bit. So I posted something in the pill, a video, a really good video where she explains a lot of stuff. It's really amazing. But I actually know her.
1:29:31 And I worked with her at Occupy Wall Street. So I'm not talking out of my bum. She turned, basically, during COVID. And I think she had a little bit of Trump derangement syndrome. And she's also one of those hypergreen people. She's actually an economist.
1:30:02 She's from Canada. And some people I know that also worked with her, we kind of question where she is now. She also worked at The Intercept with, and you just posted recently about some of that stuff. So we have a few questions. I just want to throw that out there because I don't want people to, you know, ride on the horse that.
1:30:33 she's necessarily a good person. Yeah, I don't quote people because I'm endorsing the people. I'm obviously just talking about, as it related to this book, her observations about these things. So if you guys, especially when I'm doing a book review, just because I'm saying what's in the book doesn't mean I'm endorsing people.
1:31:03 Thanks for that. SR-71, go ahead and go. Thank you, Colonel. Just two items here. For those that are new here, you made the valid point, Colonel, that the press has already been bought and paid for. It was bought and paid for a long time ago. If people don't believe Operation Mockingbird is still going on or when Operation Mockingbird started, go back and listen to some of the Colonel's talks here, and you'll really find out what's going on.
1:31:33 The other thing I want to say about keywords that get thrown around, democracy is another one. So keep that in mind. When somebody says democracy, I just hit the roof. Thank you, Colonel. Yeah. It's almost as big a trigger word now as anti-communist, right? When you start reading all of these different books or the websites or whatever, like,
1:32:02 Anytime I see the word anti-communist now, the hair on the back of my neck stands up. And we are at that point with the promotion of quote unquote democracy. I agree with you 100 percent. OK, so it's 530. I'm going to bring Stellar back up just in case she had something that she wanted to add. But then I'm going to sign off and get ready for dinner. Go ahead, Stellar.
1:32:32 Yeah, I was going to totally agree with what SR-71 was saying. As soon as you hear the word democracy, it's like it makes you cringe because we're a republic. And, you know, they're all about, you know, anything that says they say anti-communism, that's what they're about. It's actually the opposite. And yeah, so it's just insane. Yeah. But think about that, Stellar.
1:33:00 and SR-71. That's kind of profound, right? How much just going through Operation Gladio, how much more aware we are of the CIA's propaganda war and our surroundings and the language that is used. This has changed all of us.
1:33:24 in a very good way to make us better citizens, a much more aware citizenry. Miles? You said something really interesting a little while ago that the realities are different. So you were talking like the movies are more real than our reality because of how they set things up for us that we're in.
1:33:55 like a matrix or a hologram. So it's interesting. I think the people that are trying to wake us up and help us, that I've talked about this in spaces a lot, that there's been a lot of like movie magic or staged events to try to help us navigate through this war zone or minefield. Would you agree that maybe some things have been manipulated to help us that way?
1:34:26 I don't know. I don't go along those lines. I just deal with what is put in front of me. I don't like manipulation, even if it's for good. So I don't think along those lines at all. And I know a lot of people do. I just don't. Well, the only reason I do is because we're in a war of lies. And how are we going to win the war if we're not lying?
1:34:54 No. You know, like a psyops, too. I don't like it, but. No, no, you don't become your enemy to win. I just vehemently disagree with that. So anyway, I understand that people will not necessarily agree with that. And I'm fine with that. I just I'm not going there personally. Stellar, go ahead. I agree with you, too. I don't believe that there's.
1:35:29 As heartbreaking, as shocking as it's going to be, there should be no manipulation when it comes to the truth and disclosure should be brought forth completely because of all of the manipulations. Our entire life was a lie. Everything that we've been taught was a lie. Everything that we believed we were doing, which was good to help people throughout the world, was a lie. You know, it's like...
1:35:57 You know, you hear that 80-20 rule, and it's like, unfortunately, our entire world, 80% of it was a lie, and there was only maybe 20% that was truth. Whether it was words that they used in, like, what was it you were saying, you know, those coups, the different names that they used, coups, they used different names for different things to throw you off. But in actuality, it still comes down to Operation Gladio, their playbook, the frickin' international syndicate, the evil sickos that they were.
1:36:27 They had their hands in both sides of everything and controlled and manipulated. And if you didn't play their way, they were going to crush, kill, and destroy you and take all of your assets, too, from your country. And everything was about enslavement. So, no, that's how we've lived.
1:36:46 And we didn't know that that's what it was. And the censorship that they've had on different countries because they only want their citizens to know so much or not know everything or even a part of it. Everything has to be disclosed. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Richard, I'm sorry. I've got to go. Tonight is my family dinner night with my family. So if you come back tomorrow, I'll put you up first. But I do have to run, you guys. Thank you for being here.
1:37:17 And I will be on Alpha Warrior Show tonight at 930 on his channel, the Alpha Warrior Show. We're going to finish up USAID by talking about the Office of Transition Initiatives. I've been posting a lot about that. I want to kind of just do a roll-up summary to get it on record as part of that series.
1:37:43 So if you've been following the threads that I've been putting out, we're basically going to dive into a couple of the companies in there and a couple of the people that were involved in that. And that way we get it on the record as part of his series. Because what I really want to do with that series is use that kind of as our bookmarker for Operation Gladio as we have kind of exposed all of the different elements of it to include.
1:38:11 obviously the non-governmental governmental organizations, what Operation Gladio actually is and a lot of the characters involved in it. And obviously we covered a lot of the stuff that has happened here in the United States that no one is even tracking as part of Operation Gladio because they don't even know what Operation Gladio is. So anyway, I just want to get it on the record and look forward to seeing you guys there tonight. So take care.
1:38:41 Oh, and are you having Warhamster tomorrow morning? Warhamster at noon tomorrow. Tomorrow. Okay. Noon tomorrow, nine o'clock Pacific time. Thank you. Sorry. Just want to make sure I got them both. No, thank you for reminding me, Stellar. Take care, everybody.

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Paul Latinus recruited_into Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 8:54
“B-O-N-B-O-I-S-I-N, Bonvoisin, was linked to them by Latimus, who was basically one of them. He was recruited into it. So Latimus said that the children provided a quote-unquote insurance policy.…”
Baron Benoît de Van Voisin agent_of Franz Joseph Strauss host_asserted ▶ 11:54
“and shipped to Chile. There is at least one direct link between the academy and the colony. Joseph, excuse me, Franz Joseph Strauss, who provided the academy with all of its initial money. Beyond that…”
Franz Joseph Strauss funded Blackwater host_asserted ▶ 11:54
“and shipped to Chile. There is at least one direct link between the academy and the colony. Joseph, excuse me, Franz Joseph Strauss, who provided the academy with all of its initial money. Beyond that…”
Baron Benoît de Van Voisin member_of Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 11:54
“and shipped to Chile. There is at least one direct link between the academy and the colony. Joseph, excuse me, Franz Joseph Strauss, who provided the academy with all of its initial money. Beyond that…”
Dieter Blumenwitz active_in Blackwater host_asserted ▶ 12:57
“along with Dr. Lothar Bossel, B-O-S-S-L-E, and another guy by the name of Dieter Blumenwitz, who became crucial colony backers in the 1980s, who had been very active in the academy since 1972. Then th…”
Dieter Blumenwitz backer_of Colonia Dignidad host_asserted ▶ 12:57
“along with Dr. Lothar Bossel, B-O-S-S-L-E, and another guy by the name of Dieter Blumenwitz, who became crucial colony backers in the 1980s, who had been very active in the academy since 1972. Then th…”
Lothar Bossle backer_of Colonia Dignidad host_asserted ▶ 12:57
“along with Dr. Lothar Bossel, B-O-S-S-L-E, and another guy by the name of Dieter Blumenwitz, who became crucial colony backers in the 1980s, who had been very active in the academy since 1972. Then th…”
Lothar Bossle active_in Blackwater host_asserted ▶ 12:57
“along with Dr. Lothar Bossel, B-O-S-S-L-E, and another guy by the name of Dieter Blumenwitz, who became crucial colony backers in the 1980s, who had been very active in the academy since 1972. Then th…”
Jacques Thoma involved_with Parti Social Chrétien host_asserted ▶ 13:27
“Jacques Thoma, T-H-O-M-A, who was involved with the youth wing of the party social cretin, P-S-C, alleges that he attended several mass orgies. The details of Thoma provided from at least one of these…”
Franz Joseph Strauss patron_of Colonia Dignidad host_asserted ▶ 14:57
“Opus Dei member Franz Joseph Strauss patronage funding of the colony. But certainly there is a certain degree of speculation involved in all of it because obviously no one has been convicted of the co…”
Operation Gladio linked_to Knights of Malta host_asserted ▶ 15:53
“Regardless, there can be little question that the Circle Complex had extensive links to the Gladio networks. On one hand, both the Circle Complex and Gladio were linked with Catholic orders like Opus …”
Operation Gladio linked_to Opus Dei host_asserted ▶ 15:53
“Regardless, there can be little question that the Circle Complex had extensive links to the Gladio networks. On one hand, both the Circle Complex and Gladio were linked with Catholic orders like Opus …”
Le Cercle linked_to Knights of Malta host_asserted ▶ 15:53
“Regardless, there can be little question that the Circle Complex had extensive links to the Gladio networks. On one hand, both the Circle Complex and Gladio were linked with Catholic orders like Opus …”
Le Cercle linked_to Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 15:53
“Regardless, there can be little question that the Circle Complex had extensive links to the Gladio networks. On one hand, both the Circle Complex and Gladio were linked with Catholic orders like Opus …”
Le Cercle linked_to Opus Dei host_asserted ▶ 15:53
“Regardless, there can be little question that the Circle Complex had extensive links to the Gladio networks. On one hand, both the Circle Complex and Gladio were linked with Catholic orders like Opus …”
Le Cercle contact_with Aginter Press host_asserted ▶ 16:23
“and the Knights of Malta. On the other hand, the circle also maintained extensive contacts with Gladio networks through numerous groups, one of which, of course, was the propaganda duo and all of its …”
Le Cercle contact_with Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 16:23
“and the Knights of Malta. On the other hand, the circle also maintained extensive contacts with Gladio networks through numerous groups, one of which, of course, was the propaganda duo and all of its …”
Le Cercle ties_to Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 16:52
“lodge offices, and various Belgium people to the strategy of tension, and a genter press and P2 in particular are linked to terrorism, not just in Europe and not just in Italy, but all over the world.…”
Carlos Pesenti funded Stefano Delle Chiaie host_asserted ▶ 17:54
“As early as 1959, Italian industrialist, read that as oligarch, Carlos Pesenti, P-E-S-E-N-T-I, would begin funding De La Chez and his fascist militia that was referred to as Avanguardia Nazionale, A-N…”
Carlos Pesenti patron_of Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 18:24
“with a monthly stipend to do their work. Pacente would go on to become a key patron of both the Academy and the Circle. He became an especially influential member of the Circle, and in his autobiograp…”
Carlos Pesenti patron_of Blackwater host_asserted ▶ 18:24
“with a monthly stipend to do their work. Pacente would go on to become a key patron of both the Academy and the Circle. He became an especially influential member of the Circle, and in his autobiograp…”
David Rockefeller mentioned Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 18:24
“with a monthly stipend to do their work. Pacente would go on to become a key patron of both the Academy and the Circle. He became an especially influential member of the Circle, and in his autobiograp…”
Carlos Pesenti funded Avanguardia Nazionale host_asserted ▶ 18:24
“with a monthly stipend to do their work. Pacente would go on to become a key patron of both the Academy and the Circle. He became an especially influential member of the Circle, and in his autobiograp…”
Stefano Delle Chiaie founding_member_of Aginter Press host_asserted ▶ 18:51
“He spent on the circle activities. In 1965, Delachey would play a key role in formulating the strategy of tension. We already know it was established well before that. He's just crafting parts of it. …”
Yves Guérin-Sérac founding_member_of Aginter Press host_asserted ▶ 18:51
“He spent on the circle activities. In 1965, Delachey would play a key role in formulating the strategy of tension. We already know it was established well before that. He's just crafting parts of it. …”
Stefano Delle Chiaie involved_in Piazza Fontana bombing host_asserted ▶ 19:22
“1969, the strategy of tension was hitting its stride in Italy when the Piazza Fontana was bombed. Both Delaschet and his AN gang, along with the Genter Press, were implicated in the bombing. Delaschet…”
Avanguardia Nazionale involved_in Piazza Fontana bombing host_asserted ▶ 19:22
“1969, the strategy of tension was hitting its stride in Italy when the Piazza Fontana was bombed. Both Delaschet and his AN gang, along with the Genter Press, were implicated in the bombing. Delaschet…”
Aginter Press involved_in Piazza Fontana bombing host_asserted ▶ 19:22
“1969, the strategy of tension was hitting its stride in Italy when the Piazza Fontana was bombed. Both Delaschet and his AN gang, along with the Genter Press, were implicated in the bombing. Delaschet…”
Stefano Delle Chiaie linked_to Bologna massacre host_asserted ▶ 19:22
“1969, the strategy of tension was hitting its stride in Italy when the Piazza Fontana was bombed. Both Delaschet and his AN gang, along with the Genter Press, were implicated in the bombing. Delaschet…”
Avanguardia Nazionale participated_in Operation Tora Tora host_asserted ▶ 19:49
“In the strategy of tension in Italy, it obviously wasn't the final one, and that was the Bologna massacre that left 85 dead. Dallasche was also a P2 member. In 1970, Dallasche and the AN organization …”
Stefano Delle Chiaie participated_in Operation Tora Tora host_asserted ▶ 19:49
“In the strategy of tension in Italy, it obviously wasn't the final one, and that was the Bologna massacre that left 85 dead. Dallasche was also a P2 member. In 1970, Dallasche and the AN organization …”
James Jesus Angleton saved Julio Valerio Borghese host_asserted ▶ 20:51
“At the end of the war, Borghese was set to be hanged by the Italians that were in control of the government at the time. But CIA, then OSS, James Jesus Angleton saved his life because they intended to…”
Otto Skorzeny provided_shelter_to Stefano Delle Chiaie host_asserted ▶ 21:49
“And of course, Spain is where Otto Skorzeny, a fascist internationalist, has its home. So no big surprise there. And of course, Otto Skorzeny took in Delachey and the Black Prince and provided them wi…”
Otto Skorzeny provided_shelter_to Julio Valerio Borghese host_asserted ▶ 21:49
“And of course, Spain is where Otto Skorzeny, a fascist internationalist, has its home. So no big surprise there. And of course, Otto Skorzeny took in Delachey and the Black Prince and provided them wi…”
Otto Skorzeny trained Stefano Delle Chiaie host_asserted ▶ 22:19
“viewed Delachey as a protege and someone that he could pass off some of his specialty skilled training to. It would also seem that Delachey worked closely with the Paladin group, P-A-L-A-D-I-N, during…”
Gerhard Hartmut von Schubert founded Paladin Group host_asserted ▶ 22:19
“viewed Delachey as a protege and someone that he could pass off some of his specialty skilled training to. It would also seem that Delachey worked closely with the Paladin group, P-A-L-A-D-I-N, during…”
Otto Skorzeny trained Aginter Press host_asserted ▶ 26:40
“Also, Skorzeny had helped Siroc establish a gentrish press paramilitary organization around the same time, which is also true because Skorzeny trained not only a gentrish press people, but also the OA…”
David Stirling member_of Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 27:10
“was Watchguard International, another early military intelligence corporation. Watchguard had been founded by SAS co-founder David Sterling, who was a colonel. Sterling was a close associate of the Ci…”
David Stirling founded Watchguard International host_asserted ▶ 27:10
“was Watchguard International, another early military intelligence corporation. Watchguard had been founded by SAS co-founder David Sterling, who was a colonel. Sterling was a close associate of the Ci…”
Stefano Delle Chiaie associated_with Baron Benoît de Van Voisin host_asserted ▶ 28:11
“increasing the strategy of tension. Delachais also appears to have forged ties with Baron Benoit de Van Voisin around this same time. In 1975, Delachais attended a gathering of European fascists at Va…”
Stefano Delle Chiaie worked_with Michael Townley host_asserted ▶ 29:19
“The black prince from Italy paid them a visit. He was received by Pinochet himself. Delachey would go to work for Dina, which was the secret police that tortured and assassinated and kidnapped everybo…”
Stefano Delle Chiaie visited Augusto Pinochet host_asserted ▶ 29:19
“The black prince from Italy paid them a visit. He was received by Pinochet himself. Delachey would go to work for Dina, which was the secret police that tortured and assassinated and kidnapped everybo…”
Julio Valerio Borghese visited Augusto Pinochet host_asserted ▶ 29:19
“The black prince from Italy paid them a visit. He was received by Pinochet himself. Delachey would go to work for Dina, which was the secret police that tortured and assassinated and kidnapped everybo…”
Stefano Delle Chiaie worked_for DINA host_asserted ▶ 29:19
“The black prince from Italy paid them a visit. He was received by Pinochet himself. Delachey would go to work for Dina, which was the secret police that tortured and assassinated and kidnapped everybo…”
Michael Townley assassinated Bernardo Leighton host_asserted ▶ 29:49
“who was the CIA guy working on Operation Condor in the area. The most notable was the assassination of Bernardo Leighton, a former Chilean interior minister in Rome. By the late 1970s, he had also est…”
Stefano Delle Chiaie worked_with Death Squads host_asserted ▶ 30:20
“and he worked closely with the Fiance of Death, which was a private army supported by the military dictatorship that had been installed in Bolivia by the CIA. The Fiance of Death were comprised of the…”
Klaus Barbie business_partner_of Otto Skorzeny host_asserted ▶ 30:50
“from all over Europe. The group was headed by an individual that we all know, former Gestapo and SS man, Kloss Barbie. It will be recalled that Barbie was a key South American business partner in the …”
Klaus Barbie headed Death Squads host_asserted ▶ 30:50
“from all over Europe. The group was headed by an individual that we all know, former Gestapo and SS man, Kloss Barbie. It will be recalled that Barbie was a key South American business partner in the …”
Klaus Barbie business_partner_of Gerhard Martens host_asserted ▶ 30:50
“from all over Europe. The group was headed by an individual that we all know, former Gestapo and SS man, Kloss Barbie. It will be recalled that Barbie was a key South American business partner in the …”
Klaus Barbie business_associate_of Licio Gelli host_asserted ▶ 31:22
“of P2 Grand Master Geli in South America. It's interesting to note that Barbie and Delachais had also participated in many of the same Gladio operations in Europe and in many of the same ones in South…”
Klaus Barbie represented Bolivian Intelligence Agency host_asserted ▶ 32:18
“in at least one meeting dealing with Operation Condor. Delachey would also follow in Barbie's footsteps into the Bolivian cocaine industry. Because again, all of this is tied to each other. It's one n…”
Brian Cozier brought_veterans_to Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 34:19
“brought aboard some interesting partners. In the early years, the circle was largely dominated by reactionary Catholic orders like the Knights of Malta and Opus Dei. Beginning in the mid to late 1960s…”
William Casey worked_for William J. Donovan host_asserted ▶ 34:48
“veterans to the Circle Complex. Among the American partners were several former OSS men and current CIA people like William Casey. Casey, it will be recalled, worked for William Donovan's law firm bac…”
William Casey member_of Knights of Malta host_asserted ▶ 34:48
“veterans to the Circle Complex. Among the American partners were several former OSS men and current CIA people like William Casey. Casey, it will be recalled, worked for William Donovan's law firm bac…”
Stefano Dallaglio member_of Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 37:39
“The paramilitary, because they were a storage of weapons, they were manufacturing weapons there, and they were a terrorist training camp. Much like Jim Jones in Jonestown. A key colony backer was Gerh…”
Gerhard Martens member_of Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 37:39
“The paramilitary, because they were a storage of weapons, they were manufacturing weapons there, and they were a terrorist training camp. Much like Jim Jones in Jonestown. A key colony backer was Gerh…”
Gerhard Martens supplied_arms_to António de Spínola host_asserted ▶ 38:05
“While the colony's connection to Condor is very well known, its ties to Delachais raise the possibility that it was also linked to Gladio. It also indicates the connection between Otto Skorzeny and Ma…”
Reinhard Gehlen headed BND host_asserted ▶ 39:00
“but also from people like Dallashay, who was fairly high up in the network. And of course, they received funding from Strauss, who basically ran one aspect of it. While many of these contacts emerged …”
Otto Skorzeny member_of BND host_asserted ▶ 39:00
“but also from people like Dallashay, who was fairly high up in the network. And of course, they received funding from Strauss, who basically ran one aspect of it. While many of these contacts emerged …”
Augusto Pinochet overthrew Chile book_quoted ▶ 45:35
“Klein in particular singled out Chile, describing the Pinochet-led coup and the years that followed as a laboratory in which the shock doctrine was first deployed. She noted three stages that have bee…”
Intelligence Battalion 601 carried_out_attack Argentina host_asserted ▶ 48:26
“The intelligence battalion 601, which took the lead in Argentina's military, was commonly referred to this entire thing as a dirty war. They themselves estimated that there was 22,000 people murdered …”
Renzo Rocca founded Alberto Palla Institute of Military Studies host_asserted ▶ 53:21
“by an organization called Roberto, or excuse me, Alberto Palio Institute of Military Studies. It was a think tank with the purpose of developing a strategy and tactics for combating quote unquote comm…”
Renzo Rocca member_of SIFAR host_asserted ▶ 53:51
“of the Italian intelligence service SIFAR, S-I-F-A-R. Roca was the head of SIFAR's Office of Economic and Industrial Research. While nominally concerned about industrial counter-espionage, Roca's unit…”
Renzo Rocca headed Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 53:51
“of the Italian intelligence service SIFAR, S-I-F-A-R. Roca was the head of SIFAR's Office of Economic and Industrial Research. While nominally concerned about industrial counter-espionage, Roca's unit…”
William Harvey recruited Renzo Rocca host_asserted ▶ 54:20
“Gladio was set up to protect the industrial companies. Rocha received assistance for the latter endeavor from William King Harvey. And you guys will remember William Harvey because he's a CIA guy. At …”
Giulio Andreotti member_of Le Cercle host_asserted ▶ 55:22
“He was basically tied to setting up the entire thing. Andriotti enjoyed very close ties to the CIA and the secret services inside of Italy, first as defense minister and then later as prime minister. …”
Giulio Andreotti headed Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 55:22
“He was basically tied to setting up the entire thing. Andriotti enjoyed very close ties to the CIA and the secret services inside of Italy, first as defense minister and then later as prime minister. …”
Giulio Andreotti member_of P2 Masonic Lodge host_asserted ▶ 55:50
“He was also inducted into the Knights of Malta and a high up person in the P2 Lodge. So one of their conferences featured a topic called revolutionary warfare, the instrument of world expansion. The c…”
Giulio Andreotti member_of Knights of Malta host_asserted ▶ 55:50
“He was also inducted into the Knights of Malta and a high up person in the P2 Lodge. So one of their conferences featured a topic called revolutionary warfare, the instrument of world expansion. The c…”
Pino Rauti founded Ordine Nuovo host_asserted ▶ 59:22
“his job description. And Giannattini was also Dallasche's principal contact inside the Italian Secret Services. One big happy family. Another interesting participant was a journalist by the name of Pi…”
Stefano Dallaglio member_of Ordine Nuovo host_asserted ▶ 1:00:20
“were largely used during the years of lead as part of Operation Gladio and the strategy of tension inside of Italy. He was good friends with Dallasche, who was also a member of the New Order in the 19…”
Aginter Press front_for Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:02:49
“Dalashe was also a participant at that same conference. And a year after the conference, Dalashe would become the co-founder of Agenda Press and set that same program up in Portugal. Agenda would beco…”
Stefano Dallaglio founded Aginter Press host_asserted ▶ 1:02:49
“Dalashe was also a participant at that same conference. And a year after the conference, Dalashe would become the co-founder of Agenda Press and set that same program up in Portugal. Agenda would beco…”
Blackwater front_for Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:03:47
“was also in attendance at that conference. And you recall that Lombardo was one of the key principal members of the Academy and also a member of the P7 Belgium Operation Gladio elements as well. The A…”
Ivan Matteo Lombardo member_of P7 host_asserted ▶ 1:04:16
“and the Bilderberg Group. The Academy was founded in 1969 and was in communication with Seurat and a genter press during that same year, which also was part of the Piazza Fontana bombing in Italy. Lom…”
Ivan Matteo Lombardo member_of Blackwater host_asserted ▶ 1:04:16
“and the Bilderberg Group. The Academy was founded in 1969 and was in communication with Seurat and a genter press during that same year, which also was part of the Piazza Fontana bombing in Italy. Lom…”
Blackwater funded Ordine Nuovo host_asserted ▶ 1:05:39
“They're all Gladio. They just subdivide themselves into other organizations with a quote unquote leader so that it's plausible deniability for Gladio at all. Just so that you guys understand that. By …”
USAID funded Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:13:54
“A large portion of the money for the covert operations came from drug sales. And obviously, when they figured out that they also had their wealth for oligarchs, with the appropriation of taxpayer mone…”
Mafia funded Bolsheviks caller_asserted ▶ 1:21:44
“And when you go back and you follow the money, you learn very quickly that the same people that created the Bolshevik Revolution and communism created Hitler to a T. Every one of them. They all reside…”
Mafia funded Adolf Hitler caller_asserted ▶ 1:22:43
“created Russia and created communism, and those exact same people funded Hitler's rise to power, and they did, then you can't make the argument that Hitler's good if you're not going to make the argum…”
Mafia funded Leon Trotsky caller_asserted ▶ 1:22:43
“created Russia and created communism, and those exact same people funded Hitler's rise to power, and they did, then you can't make the argument that Hitler's good if you're not going to make the argum…”
Mafia funded Vladimir Lenin caller_asserted ▶ 1:23:09
“house with a refrigerator when no one at the time had a refrigerator in the United States except for the very, very wealthy. And they kept him here until they had already won the Bolshevik Revolution.…”
Sweden laundered_money_for Soviet Union caller_asserted ▶ 1:25:03
“As a matter of fact, Sweden was used as the quote unquote neutral country where they shipped gold bars into Sweden. They remelted them and stamped them with the Swedish bank and then brought them into…”
Naomi Klein member_of Wall Street caller_asserted ▶ 1:29:31
“And I worked with her at Occupy Wall Street. So I'm not talking out of my bum. She turned, basically, during COVID. And I think she had a little bit of Trump derangement syndrome. And she's also one o…”
Naomi Klein member_of The Intercept caller_asserted ▶ 1:30:02
“She's from Canada. And some people I know that also worked with her, we kind of question where she is now. She also worked at The Intercept with, and you just posted recently about some of that stuff.…”