The Colonel’s Corner Prelude to Terror Chap 24

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0:00 Hello, everybody. If you guys could repost the space so we can get as many people in here. Now, I do expect that everybody's going to want to jump over to Rumble. We're live over there just to check out the new hairstyle. It looks just like the old hairstyle. Just all of my gray roots are gone. Oh, my gosh. That was such a hot topic today. I didn't realize that there were so many of us that were in the same boat.

0:31 We need to have a new nationwide string of salons. We can get the lady that got arrested out in Dallas, I forget her name, that got elected here recently to give us some tips. And we can have patriot hairstyle salons that we can go in and play Badlands Media on the televisions.

0:58 Instead of the crazy crap like housewives, whatever. We could have a red, white, and blue theme going on. I might actually have to ask somebody about that. I think that would be an awesome adventure. Anyway, I'm free if anybody wants to find some investors. Anyway, Bridget.

1:27 I threw you the co-host. Did you get it? Let me do it again. Okay. There we go. Do you know who we're looking for today, Bridget? Is it going to be SR71? Do you know? No, I don't know. Okay. Are you there, Bridget? Bridget. Let's see. I can't get my mic to work.

2:12 All right. So let me take her down and then I'm going to bring her back in and see if we can get that to work. All right. We'll try it one more time, Bridget. All right. It says that you're a co-host now. Can you get it to work now? Yes. That's crazy. They're already messing with me. Okay. So the first thing I'm going to do is ask you to post pictures.

2:56 of the amazing bookcase that officially got shipped today that is going to be the star piece of a cottage that I'm turning into a studio. It's amazing. I'm so excited. What you have to do, because I already did it, is you have to save it as a picture and then you have to blow it up.

3:23 Because I want you guys to look at the top of each of the three boxes as it comes around the corner and it does a waterfall edge down the sides of the bookcase and the grain is perfectly matched. And so because it's perfectly matched on like continuous wood, if you then look to the inside of the bookcase,

3:51 In the pictures, you'll see where the top of the box on the inside of each of the boxes comes down on the inside of the vertical ends. And the grain is perfectly matched. I told my husband, I looked at him and I'm going, I put books on it. It's beautiful. So anyway, I'm tickled to death.

4:23 Okay, I'm posting a couple pictures for you. Bridget needs to be a furniture designer. It is amazing. Okay, so I'm going to start with a couple of things. I want to read my buddy Brian Cates, who I will be having dinner with tonight. So we will stop exactly at 6 o'clock, guys, no matter how many hands. We'll continue it tomorrow if we need to. But Wednesday night, I got dinner with my family.

4:52 to include Brian and Dwayne, who's been added to the family. And then we have to do that as quickly as possible and get back so I can prepare for Alpha's show tonight. So I want to read a post that Brian just posted. I embrace the timing. Chris Ray resigns the day after the DOJ Inspector General, remember him, released a report.

5:19 about how Andy McCabe and others used fake allegations to get warrants to spy on congressional staff members like Kath Patel, who were investigating, check card, how the FBI ended up using fake hoaxes that came straight from the Hillary Clinton campaign political operatives to launch counterintelligence investigations of Trump campaign, quote unquote, Russia collusion.

5:46 Both the Steele dossier and Alpha Bank hoaxes were frauds invented by the Clinton campaign's political operatives at Fusion GPS and Perkins Coie. But certain DOJ FBI officials knowingly made use of those known frauds to launch an attack on Donald Trump and his incoming administration. The Durham Special Counsel revealed the nuts and bolts.

6:13 details of how the two main Clinton anti-Trump hoaxes were constructed, follow the money trail, and fully and exhaustively detailed how the well-developed scheme between the Clinton campaign, Fusion DPS, and Perkins Coie operated. All of this evidence was already entered into the federal court record. All that's needed at this point is a president, an attorney general, and an FBI director willing to prosecute it all.

6:43 Anybody see any potential candidates on the horizon for taking down this house of cards? And then he includes the picture of President Trump, Han Bondi, and Patel. So I want to go back and kind of, well, let me ask Bridget. Was there any part of that, Bridget, that stuck out to you based on what we've uncovered in the Operation Gladio? All of it.

7:14 So let me share with you what sticks out the most to me. What is Fusion VPS? Did anybody do any research on that and know what that company actually was? I know we came across it several times. Doesn't it link also back to the Biden? Well, it's a PR firm. Right. But didn't they handle, I could have swore they handled Burishmas.

7:50 Well, they've done a lot of things, but from our perspective, they're a PR firm. They went out and did public relations on behalf of anyone that they wanted to make look good and destroy anybody they didn't want to look good. They are a Gil and Knowlton company, if you get my drift. Oh, yeah. So CIA.

8:20 What's his face's wife that worked there? The DOJ guy. Nellie Orr. Nellie Orr worked there. And what was Nellie Orr? She had ties to intelligence. She was a Russian. She was a Russian speaker. She's the one that had Russian ties, if anybody did.

8:47 So you see the analogy here and then you have Perkins Coie. And what were they? They were a company that were that was posing as a law firm exactly like Sullivan and Cromwell used to do, but was actually operating as a international syndicate element of this grand illusion that you have a government because they were not doing legal work for these people.

9:16 They were actually doing operations posing as a legal company so that when they were subpoenaed, they could say, oh, I'm just their lawyer. So you can't have any of our communication. It was attorney client privilege. Yeah, it was all bullshit. And they are the ones behind the field dossier. That's what I was trying to remember. Correct. Yeah. So you have the.

9:43 I'm going to use their own words against them. You have the hallmark of a CIA operation. You have the corrupted law firm, you have the PR, and you have the product of digging up dirt on an opponent that you want to take down. Those are exactly how the coups in foreign countries work. That's what they did during the run-up to elections in Philae.

10:12 and Nicaragua and all over the world, actually. They do it in South Korea. If someone comes along that's a nationalist and they don't want them in, this is the exact type of operation that they use in order to discredit anyone that's not the selected candidate. So just want everybody to see the similarities of what we're learning is there.

10:42 mode of operation and how it actually looks in real life. Donny Vision, are you giving me a compliment with your woo? So just a funny holdover for those of you who just joined us. We were joking about my hair salon appointment earlier. I didn't really know that that was going to strike quite the chord that it did.

11:16 Now I'm going to tell my husband we need to find someone to go out and start a red, white, and blue hair salon chain across the country so that they can play things like Badlands Media during the day inside the salon. Wouldn't that be awesome? Oh, my God. It would. It's funny, again, because it struck such a chord with people.

11:44 And of course, you have, you know, a few of the comments like, you know, hey, well, you could try to red pill them. It's kind of hard to do in the middle of a blow dry. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I could. I already worked on my hairdresser. She's good to go. Hey, I've red pilled the guy who is shipping out your bookcase today. Yeah. So, yeah. Anyway. All right. We're going to get into chapter.

12:16 24, and that is called, let's see, The Winners. And let me just say, thanks to Magar Sargent, the analogy that I made yesterday, or the correlation on the two individuals, the name of the brown, and now I'm not going to be able to find it.

12:45 I thought I had stuck a piece of paper in here. We were talking during the chapter about one of the government officials whose last name was Brown. And in the comments afterwards, when we were just having open discussion, someone mentioned Brown. And my mind went to Ron Brown. And I don't believe the guy's name. Well, I know it isn't. I went back and looked.

13:14 That was not Ron Brown. That's a different Brown. And because we're in here for truth, I just wanted to correct the record that the Brown that I mentioned during the story, and I can't find his first name because my marker got moved, and he's not actually in the index, weirdly enough. Maybe just because he was mentioned that one time. So anyway.

13:43 For whatever it's worth, I just wanted to correct the record. And thank Magar Sarge for helping me out there and keeping me straight. You guys are good at that. Okay, Chapter 24, The Winners. The Reagan-Bush victory resulted in the immediate appointment of a transition team to cover almost every area of government, including the Intelligence and Defense Department.

14:10 The transition teams, these two areas included a variety of old boy Intel network operatives, like former CIA Deputy Director General Richard Stilwell. And that's actually very interesting that he would have been a transition person. If one of you guys could throw his wiki page up there, because he has, he would not have been my choice. I'm just going to say that.

14:40 and a veteran CIA executive by the name of John Bross, B-R-O-S-S. Thanks to Bush, and this is Bush Sr., of course, these teams also turned to a confidential outsider group of advisors that had among them Ted Shackley, who was obviously close to Bush, having worked for him at the CIA.

15:11 According to Stilwell himself, he began to reorganize military intelligence working hand in hand with Shackley, with whom he had worked very closely at the CIA. But the fact that Admiral Bobby Ray Inman had an open war with Shackley, all but guaranteed that Shackley would never be appointed the chief of the CIA. Inman, who had been the Senate Intel Committee chairman.

15:40 Barry Goldwater's choice. So Inman was Barry Goldwater's choice for the director of CIA. And he didn't get the job either. But Inman had his own power base as head of the NSA, where he supervised 40,000 employees and had the largest budget of any intel organization.

16:09 The authors say including the CIA, but that's bullshit because the CIA has a covert budget as well. So I can guarantee you the NSA didn't have a bigger budget for the real CIA budget. But they're talking appropriated funds here, taxpayer money. The fact that Shackley would never become director of the CIA was less a shock to him than the hundreds of loyalists who had supported the Reagan-Bush ticket.

16:37 Shackley understood that his feud with Inman was so popular with Congress, it would make it almost impossible for him to get through a confirmation hearing. Meanwhile, it was imperative that prosecutor Larry Barcella, B-A-R-C-E-L-L-A, continue his efforts against Edwin Wilson. Because remember, Edwin Wilson created the off-books company that Shackley...

17:07 And Klein had basically at this point stolen from him. Shackley, or taken it over. Shackley had to protect his interest in the International Research and Trade, which was called, so that's IRT. That was one of the companies. And then the other one was called EATSCO, E-A-T-S-C-O. Those two companies were basically the off-books CIA operations that Wilson had been.

17:37 running under the tutelage of Shackley and Klein thinking that he was actually working for the CIA because Shackley and Klein never told him that they were actually fired. So while demonstrating to the new administration that he was not in the league with his old operatives, so Shackley's going to run the gauntlet of basically taking over Edwin Wilson's empire, but not appearing to be in bed with Edwin Wilson. Despite

18:08 The performance, exactly after decades of being a CIA bureaucrat, finally had to play his major role in the new regime offstage. While protesting that he was just a retired spy staying away from anything that boomed or was spooky, he effectively became Bush's number one secret operative. He faced none of the restraints of the CIA in his former role.

18:34 Ironically, this was his only real successful undercover work, said William Corson, who was one of the CIA officers that contributed to this book. By the end of 1981, Stilwell was running one of the most secret operations in the government. His intelligence operation at the Pentagon was so secret that its work was done literally out of a large vault instead of a normal office.

19:03 Despite the security, Shackley still had access to all of Stilwell's secrets. The private intelligence network had placed its loyalists everywhere in the new administration. Frank Carlucci, Danfield Turner's deputy, was rewarded for his lack of loyalty to Turner and Jimmy Carter by being made Casper Weinberger's deputy secretary of defense. So be a traitor and you get promoted.

19:33 Erich von Marbog was quickly given even more power as the number two at the Defense Security Assistance Agency, along with his deputy, Major General Secord. Now, keep in mind, that's the organization that divvies up military aid. That's what they refer to as, quote unquote, security assistance.

20:01 William Casey longed to be the Secretary of State, and according to his biographer, was terribly disappointed not to get it. But when Reagan selected Casey, who had worked for the OSS in London during World War II as the director of the CIA, that gave him cabinet-level rank as well. Far more important, Casey insisted on playing a policy role in the administration.

20:30 This request of Casey's was in direct contradiction to the entire purpose of the CIA, which was to provide the president with unbiased information, you know, intelligence. A CIA director overtly pushing policy had not been in place since Alan Dulles. I'm not going to say I believe that, but whatever.

20:57 Which, of course, Alan Dulles was the CIA director when his brother was the secretary of state and their sister ran the office that was the intermediary between the two, the research and intelligence branch within the State Department. As Reagan's forces began taking control of the government, his running mate had already effectively established.

21:22 Shackley's entree into the new administration. While the spotlight focused on Reagan as he assembled his cabinet, Vice President Bush was busy coordinating the shadow intelligence community. During the campaign, Bush learned that Reagan had little interest in the nuts and bolts of covert operation. For Bush, this presented an unprecedented opportunity. Bush also knew that while he had the loyalty of the traditional intelligence community, congressional oversight

21:52 would make conducting aggressive covert operations almost impossible. Bush turned to the new administration and began using a private intelligence network, which of course we know was set up a few years before called the Enterprise. This private network would get away with much more and much less oversight. Bush would be made aware that the network, through a series of

22:20 intensely loyal supporters. One of the loyalists was Donald Gregg, who we've talked about many times. Donald Gregg was in Vietnam and was an intricate person in the administration of the Phoenix program. The man Jimmy Carter is convinced played the biggest role in subverting the National Security Council, and he did. Gregg was rewarded for his treasonous role.

22:50 Because he became President Bush's national security advisor, and he immediately turned around and hired Felix Rodriguez, who was front and center in the Iran-Contra scandal. He is also a Cuban exile that was used as an assassin on many, many different operations. Greg's role as Shackley's subordinate at the CIA made him the best candidate to broker this privatized intel apparatus.

23:20 The key to Bush's manipulation of Congress and his colleagues in the new administration was the continued presence of Bobby Ray Inman at the top of the intelligence community. Because Inman was a favorite of the Congressional Oversights Committee, it made it look like they were legitimate. Bush needed to exploit him to cover up all of his rogue activities. And Inman knew that Washington game would require him.

23:50 in order to stay in that job to appear close to Bush. This allowed Bush to keep abreast of what was happening in the intelligence community while he was running a private one. Bush was valuable to Shackley and his friends because he was the head of this organization. Bush was the last man in the new administration who would be suspected of dealing off the books covert operations because he had once been a member of Congress.

24:19 And he would have never no one would have ever thought that he would be capable of that, which is ridiculous because he was the CIA director and did exactly that. The institutional memory of Congress being what it was in Congress in the 1980s, they few understood the real role of Senator Prescott Bush had played in the Eisenhower administration. George Bush.

24:47 who had spent a lifetime trying to outshine his father, would try it once again. For Bush and his rogue element, getting Inman out of the NSA was a real priority because the NSA had constant access to all of Ed Wilson's communications and all of the business communications of the assets that he was going to be using, including financial transactions. He was useful to them.

25:19 but they didn't want him having the access to be able to see it himself. The NSA handled all encrypted messaging for the government. More important, the NSA had access to all overseas communication and financial transactions. This meant that millions being handled by Eatsco, Wilson's former company, was subject to NSA.

25:47 Eavesdropping. Wilson, who had been indicted in April 1980, was on the run and was openly threatening in phone conversations to expose the entire operation. Inman also had access to information that could prove that Wilson was still under the impression he was buying on behalf of the CIA. Shackley threw Shackley.

26:12 Inman had already demonstrated his willingness to blow the whistle on illegal operations as he had on Billy Carter. Inman would be a serious problem if he ever got wind of this operation. The solution was to bless the move of Inman to the number one, the number two job at the CIA. Senate Intelligence Committee Barry Goldwater told Casey that he had to pick a deputy who Congress trusted.

26:40 Goldwater told Casey that that basically meant Inman. Goldwater and Bush both pressed the president to urge Inman to take the job. Inman agreed on the condition that his term would be only 18 months and that he would receive his fourth admiral star upon his government retirement. The four star was a remarkable achievement considering that he had never even commanded a single Navy vessel. Inman was replaced at the NSA.

27:09 by Lieutenant General Lincoln Furrer. F-A-U-R-E-R. Oh, God. I forgot about this part. Furrer, however you say his name, was the former deputy chairman of Sando. Gosh, I'm sure he's a great guy. This is my sock face. Said no one ever. Bush was walking a tightrope.

27:39 Inman considered himself a friend of Bush's and was reporting back to Bush on Casey's activity. At the same time, Inman's rival, Ted Shackley, was also reporting to Bush. Bush urged Inman, as deputy director of CIA, to become personally involved in luring Ed Wilson back to the U.S. Only under U.S. custody could Wilson be eliminated as a threat. But to Inman, the key reason to lure Wilson back was quite different.

28:10 Rather than keeping him silent, Inman wanted to have him in open court to indict Shackley. The administration quickly began to split into two intelligence factions, Bush and his crew versus Casey, Secretary of State Haig, and Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger. In the middle was Bobby Ray Inman.

28:39 Casey did not trust Inman because Inman had a close relationship with Bush. Inman did not approve or trust Shackley and was never officially told anything about Shackley's off the book operations with Bush. But Inman felt caught in the middle because Casey was running questionable operations that could go out of control. Shackley and his private intelligence network had to stay out of the suspicion.

29:10 of Inman while still making Bush happy. Bush placed Jack Lee and Inman off of each other to get what he wanted. Bush ran Inman like his own intelligent agent at the CIA, and Inman, increasingly at odds with Casey, became even more loyal to Bush. From the start, Bush had realized that Haig, who had his own national security background, would be a threat.

29:38 At a meeting at Reagan's oceanfront home in Pacific Palisade during the transition, Bush had spoken to Reagan about Haig. Quote, do you do what you want to, but if you pick Al Haig, I predict you'll have serious problems, unquote, because he'll just make sure it happens. Haig, feeling alienated by Reagan's insiders, began to lunch every Tuesday with Casey.

30:04 The two men became great friends. Casey learned much about Haig during these sessions, including the fact that Haig had independently began talking to the Soviets about abandoning Castro. Haig wanted the U.S. to move directly against Cuba instead of just treating the symptoms of Castro's exporting communism to Central America, which he absolutely was not doing.

30:36 Casey learned that Haig had played a key role in the early 1960s in the Kennedy administration's effort to remove Castro. While many in the Reagan administration were sympathetic with Haig's view on Castro, the idea of an invasion was off the table. Casey did see an opportunity to exploit conservative Cuban Americans to provide help to the anti-communist group throughout Central America.

31:05 You know, lead them on, play them. It was in this area that Casey turned to Bush's off-the-books intelligence apparatus. After all, Shackley had run all of the anti-Castro programs for the Kennedys, and he still maintained a close relationship with all of the Cuban exile communities. In March of 1981, Pegg ceased to be serious.

31:34 competition to Bush when in a bizarre attempt to calm American public after the attempted assassination on Reagan, Haig went on television to say that he was in control. You know, I'm sorry, but now I look at that whole thing completely different. Holy crap. As of now, let's see, Casey had watched the performance of the White House sit room. His political instinct told him, um,

32:05 that he would end up having to resign. And he does so within the next year. For Bush, Haig's fall meant that his potential competitor in the 1988 presidential nomination had destroyed himself. So now I find that statement probably one of the most revealing of this entire chapter.

32:33 Because these people actually saw Haig as a competitor to Reagan. It almost, and this is complete speculation, so I'm going to asterisk it and put big stars. But just like they did with the Pope when they shot him and they didn't really shoot him to kill him, they shot him for a completely different reason. And it had to do with what they were doing.

33:02 under the table with the Soviet Union through Poland, John Paul II. So you could see a scenario where they're going to shoot Reagan and had preliminarily, again, all speculation, told Haig that he needed to go calm everybody down and he's...

33:25 He says this ridiculous thing, and then they later use that against him, and now what they saw as a potential threat is off the table. I mean, that's literally the kind of things that they do. Complete speculation, but it does change the way you look at things when you see things from the inside. As Casey watched the performance of the White House, let's see.

33:57 Meanwhile, Bush filled a vacuum in the new administration by presiding over all foreign policy and national security decisions while Reagan recovered from his illness, from the wounds. Reagan's convalescence allowed a private intelligence network to move operational. So again, there's a couple of benefits from Reagan being quote unquote wounded, right? Bush gets to...

34:26 put the icing on the cake of his private intelligence network. They get rid of an opponent that they viewed as a threat. They've already put Inman over as the deputy. And I don't know if you guys know anything about how the whole deputy process worked inside of government. Being the deputy, basically, you are given control over the administrative functions of an agency, like the hiring and firing of people.

34:57 you don't have any real role in the operational piece of that. And it's like being a glorified office manager. And so he could be completely isolated as a deputy. So they've moved him over there to insulate the rest of the world from him and to keep him isolated because they already know he's a whistleblower, but he was so well-loved in Congress that they couldn't just ditch him. Okay.

35:27 So after Casey was appointed DCI, a devastating story broke tying Casey to an organized crime figure in New Orleans. The Senate Intelligence Committee quickly pulled together an investigation headed by Watergate Minority Counsel Fred Thompson. Thompson called in the reporter and asked him to identify his sources. When the reporter refused, the investigation was dropped.

35:52 But by then, Senator Goldwater had discovered that Casey had a long and shady association with U.S. intelligence. Well, no shit. Holy crap, like that's a newsflash? The guy's been in the CIA the entire time. I was never comfortable with what he was up to. You never knew if it was in the best interest of the U.S. or personal. Or how about for the international syndicate? Casey's first week as CIA director went smoothly.

36:22 But John Bross, B-R-O-S-S, who symbolized the CIA establishment, was worried about a campaign member, which he was, who had come with Casey to the CIA and who seemed to have great influence on him. Max Hugel, H-U-G-E-L, who was a Brooklyn, I'm just reading what it said.

36:51 He was a foul-mouthed, Brooklyn-born Jew, definitely a fish out of water in the basically anti-Semitic Ivy League CIA that was more comfortable with recruiting Nazis than Eastern European Jews. He had a major role in the presidential campaign. Google, who dressed like a racetrack,

37:21 Like he was going to the racetrack because he actually owned a racetrack. And one of the things that we found early on is because that's a gambling kind of casino type thing. Most of those people are dirty. And who's ill-fitting to pay. Again, I'm just reading the book. Topped his stocking body was in sharp contrast to the conservatively tailored button down people at the CIA and their old.

37:50 Northeast Boys Club. Brose, who had come out of retirement to advise Casey, recalled one of the first times he ever laid eyes on Hoogle. And here comes Max sweeping under my arm, dressed like a dandy, smelling like aftershave lotion, plopping himself down next to Bill Casey. Robert Crowley said Hoogle, quote, look like an alien world of the CIA.

38:20 He just didn't fit in, unquote. Corson says when you don't fit in, it means the clandestine services people don't think you fit in. Casey's OSS history made him acceptable to the CIA, but Hoogle was another matter. Casey, like Stanford Turner before him, had wandered into a minefield. Hoogle was no ordinary American businessman. The CIA had a long file on him.

38:50 His business career had roots in post-war Japan, where as a young Army intel man, he had interrogated Japanese soldiers who had been interned in the Soviet Union during the war. Hugo went on to a business career that peaked when he became the CEO of Brothers Industry Limited and later headed what was then the world's largest internet computer printer company called Stentronics. Stentronics.

39:22 Unknown to Hugel, the CIA's counterintelligence staff was very interested in his Japanese business associations, and some of which had served in Soviet POW camps. According to James Angleton, the longtime head of counterintelligence, a number of these men had been recruited by the Soviets while they were POWs.

39:47 After they returned home and rose to the top of Japanese corporations, they transferred important technology to the Soviet Union. In the 70s, one of the executives transferred U.S. submarine technology that did real damage, according to Angleton. That caused us to recommend that the FBI keep an eye on Hugel and his associates. Clearly potentially unflattering material on Hugel.

40:16 was already in the hands of the CIA and FBI. Like many other Americans, Hogle was a devoted friend of Israel. To the Israelis, the good fortune of having someone who could influence the chief of the CIA was vitally important. For the covert intelligence group under Bush, Hogle was competition. They wanted to remain the key source of intelligence, both for the Saudis and the Israelis.

40:46 And again, they're on the outside of the CIA. For Bush, Google could complicate his dealings with people like Kamal Adom, the chief of Saudi Arabia intelligence. Well, I think at this point he had already moved on, but he's still involved. George Bush was trying to create an economic and military parity between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

41:16 Bush's goal was to ensure that we not lose our strategic oil supply by too much of a tilt towards Israel. He was already orchestrating the first opening in a tilt to Iraq in its war with Iran. Hugel was a threat. Inman reported back to Bush on how Hugel's presence upset everyone at the agency. Inman left out of his informal reports to Bush.

41:45 that in many ways, Hugo was very effective. The CIA was now, at Hugo's insistence, getting interest for the first time on tens of millions of dollars that were in covert black banks. Hugo had cajoled the State Department by providing better cover for CIA employees in overseas departments. You know, those fake State Department people that are in all the embassies like Obama's mom. For years,

42:17 State had insisted that CIA officers be listed on embassy rosters as reserve foreign services officers. Yeah, like that would be a dead giveaway. And Google's point was, well, if you're doing it, then the enemy knows you're doing it. Why would you keep doing it? Google thought it was an outrage that Israel had lost favor and influence under the Carter administration.

42:47 By the late spring of 1981, Hugel and Casey were regularly meeting directly with Israeli intelligence. During this period, Hugel was also involved in a covert operation that had not been cleared with either the Directorate of Operations or the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. The Israelis told Hugel in no uncertain terms that the French-built nuclear reactor

43:17 that was located in Iraq was proof that the Iraqis were planning to match Israel's nuclear weapon capability, something had to be done. The Israelis had the information because back in 1977, when Shackley was still inside the CIA, he had placed George Weiss, W-E-I-S-Z, near the heart of the world's nuclear energy regulatory body. At that time,

43:46 Hoogle had came to the CIA. Weiss was head of security and safeguards at the Department of Energy, and he's basically a CIA agent posing as a civilian in DOE. One of the most critical positions in DOE. Hoogle had already impressed Casey with the Israelis' willingness to share intelligence from the Middle East. It was Hoogle's efforts with the Israelis that led

44:17 to a special relationship between Casey and Major General Haka Hoppe, H-O-F-F-I. His nickname was Haka, H-A-K-A. During a visit by Casey to Tel Aviv that Hoogle arranged, Hoppe requested that the U.S. help in planning a raid to destroy the nuclear reactor.

44:43 Hoffie, thanks to Weiss, knew more about what was going on in the CIA files, knew more about what was going on than the CIA files provided. Google had warned Hoffie that Casey would drive a tough bargain for covert support on attacking Iraq.

45:15 billion dollar airborne early warning aircraft that the reagan administration planned to sell saudi so that's awac by the way for those of you it's the 707 aircraft that flies around with the dish on the top and it basically is in the air anytime that like the president is flying it's um it detects it's in the they have them in the air all the time um but it's the detection for

45:44 missiles being launched and that type of thing. So the U.S. was proposing to sell $8.5 billion worth of an AWACS package to Saudi Arabia. And Casey told Israel that he wants them to pretend like they're uncomfortable with it when they really weren't. Second, Casey asked that Israel

46:13 re-establish its intelligence sharing arrangement with the CIA. Hoffie agreed, but only on the condition that Israel once again be given regular access to spy satellite information. The deal was struck. Now, keep in mind, this is after Pine Gap in Australia. So what Casey's doing is giving Israel information that no one else has.

46:43 When Casey arrived in Tel Aviv in April of 1981 to meet with General Hoffey, he brought with him a wealth of SR-71 spy satellite photography, as well as information on the air defenses of Iraq. On June 8th, the Israeli Air Force bombed the Iraq nuclear facility. The CIA, as promised, diverted the Keyhole 11 orbiting satellite platform.

47:11 to fly over Baghdad to assess the attack damage. The KH-11 sensors for that satellite captured significant destruction. However, there were no signs of radioactivity in the wreckage. If this had been a functioning reactor, there would be tons of signs. Had Saddam Hussein been warned about the attack? Did he know to protect his nuclear material?

47:43 It doesn't seem possible. While Casey was helping the Israelis, the man around George Bush had already begun to do business with Saddam Hussein, though. So there's a huge question mark there. Because of Weiss, the Israelis began to realize that Reagan administration was pursuing a two-track policy in the Iran-Iraq war. Casey knew that the Israelis were illegally supplying spare parts.

48:13 and that were under U.S. license and also classified information to Iran. That, after all, had been part of the October surprise deal. What Casey didn't know was that Bush, who was a member of the Safari Club, and his private intelligence associates were secretly supporting Saddam Hussein through a Miami-based arms dealer, Sakaris.

48:44 That guy just keeps coming up. He's a very busy guy. For Bush and his off-books covert intelligence operation, the news that Casey and Hogle had succeeded in cementing a new relationship between Israel and the CIA was not a welcomed aspect. Bush's loyalties lied totally with Saudi Arabia and Kamal Adom.

49:14 the Safari Club, and all of the big oil people. Because, of course, he was in bed with them from at least the 50s on. Because Bush was considered untrustworthy by Israeli intelligence because of his close relationship with Israel, all encounters with the vice president was videotaped and audiotaped. That order

49:43 would haunt Bush years later when he was up for re-election as president and he crossed the Israelis on a $10 billion loan guarantee. Casey was not kept informed on all of these secret operations that Bush was running. The highest value of any intelligence officer is to be the single best source of information. Togol was quickly making Shackley a secondary source with the Israelis.

50:11 Hogle had to go, and he had to go soon if Shackley was not going to be shown up as basically worthless. If Hogle had ever felt welcome at the CIA, he had no idea how unfriendly it was about to get. Bill Casey wanted to shake up the Directorate of Operations, and Casey confided to friends that he believed the Directorate of Operations was getting too bureaucratic.

50:39 When Casey surprised nearly everyone by naming Hogle to the CIA's most sensitive job, which was the director of operations on May 1981, the old boy clandestine services turned to Shackley to help get rid of Hogle. General William Odom, O-D-O-M, who had succeeded Furrer at the NSA in 1985,

51:09 came upon evidence documenting Hogle's unauthorized discussions with the Israelis about the nuclear reactor in Iraq. That information was leaked to members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and you guys are not going to even believe this, Senator Joe Biden confronted Casey in open session and was not happy about the answers he got.

51:37 Still, this first effort to sidetrack Hoogle's appointment failed, and the Republican-controlled Senate, so the Director of Operations Veterans, turned to the Counterintelligence Division for help. Here they found information showing that Hoogle was not only hot-tempered, but very indiscreet. The continued surveillance revealed that he was engaged in a business dispute with two mysterious brothers,

52:07 Before coming to the CIA, Robert, or excuse me, Thomas R. and Samuel F. McNeil contacted Bob Woodard and provided him a Washington Post colleague, Patrick Tyler, with 16 audio tapes featuring an angry Max Hogle threatening the brothers using profanity and giving them inside information.

52:35 The McNeil story destroyed Hogle's government career, and he resigned from the CIA in 1981. Then the McNeils suddenly disappeared, too, compounding questions about them and the fact that a third brother, Dennis McNeil, had died under very mysterious circumstances at the same time. So, in other words, they were hired to take Hogle out.

53:07 John McMahon, who had preceded Hoogle as the head of the DO, said with irony, I don't know how those tapes got to the Washington Post. And he's a big fat liar. It might have been one of the agency's covert operative. Hoogle was replaced by a guy by the name of John Stein, who had, let's see, and Hoogle.

53:43 Google, after he was fired or resigned, whatever, set up, he sued the government for libel and won because the McNeils were nowhere to be found to say anything about where they got the information or anything else.

54:12 He went on to get involved in other deals with the Israelis, and then Shackley was free to be the sole conduit of Israeli information back into the United States intelligence community once again. So I just think, and obviously you guys can see how deep this rot is, which is the reason why I wanted to do this book at this juncture, because if this book is written,

54:41 by intelligence operators. Well, from material, from three CIA guys who died. They kept trunks and trunks. They were fired. They took trunks of information out of the CIA and sat on it. They eventually give it to Trento, the guy that wrote this book, who promises that he will not write the book with the information until all three of them are dead, which he waited until all three of them had died.

55:12 Now, as I pointed out, there are some pieces of this that have somewhat of a spin on it. But to me, it was one of the most, and again, you guys know I've read lots of books on this. This was one of the most eye-opening books about the bowels of the CIA and the utter rot that exists there.

55:42 To the extent I don't think most of us who live normal lives and, you know, I've been involved in political intrigue in the military. I know what that looks like. If you would have told me three years ago that anything like this existed in our government, I would not have believed you. But the research tells you a different story. So anyway.

56:11 Anybody have anything that they want to talk about? We're right at five. So we got about, I don't know, probably about 45 minutes of time. If anybody wants to come up and chat, I have to go over to Rumble as well. Well, Colonel, of course, another one of these deep rabbit holes, but it seems to me that.

56:44 You've got a lot of infighting going on in the CIA, along with the CIA playing puppeteer. We're all marionette. So what else is there out of all of this? I'm sorry. I was reading Donnie Vision. Say that again. I said you have a lot of infighting going on in the CIA. We can see that it does happen.

57:13 But in the end, it's the CIA playing the puppeteer. We are all the marionette. As far as the government goes, as far as our armed forces goes, as far as anything else goes within the government, it seems they have control over everything. Well, they are controllers, but they are also controlled.

57:41 The piece that's missing in all of this, as far as I'm concerned, is there's a higher level above this. There was somebody that selected Reagan and there was somebody that selected Bush. And those somebodies, which we refer to as the international syndicate, are the ones that are in control. And there will be factions.

58:13 That develop and there will be people like evidently Inman, which we came across him in the USS Liberty story as well as being one of the good guys that they will use as a front. So that's the reason why you can't like paint everybody with the same brush. So as this book articulates, Inman.

58:44 was put, and I 100% believe this is exactly what happened with Flynn. As a matter of fact, now that I'm thinking about it, I'm 1000% sure. So there are some people that are good guys. And the good guys are put in positions in order to legitimize all of the bad guys.

59:13 And so you can put Inman at NSA, which gives the illusion that Congress has a safety valve, if they even give a shit, and most of them don't, but if they did, that they can trust that the intelligence community is going to be just fine because they've got Inman over there and they trust him. But Inman obviously is not the collector.

59:41 He's not the guy seeing all of the intelligence. And so they can plant people at lower levels while using Inman as a route. The problem in people like Flynn is they get so far down the road like when he was at DIA and he starts asking uncomfortable questions and refusing to lie on congressional testimony. And just like Inman, then he has to go.

1:00:12 And then, of course, Trump basically, according to the syndicate, makes the mistake of putting him at NSA. And their attack on Flynn not only was to keep Flynn out of the National Security Council, because you guys can clearly see the National Security Council, which is where the CIA reports to.

1:00:45 is critical to them being able to run these operations without being caught. And the one thing that could never happen was Flynn stay at the NSC. It just couldn't happen. And they would have literally done anything to make sure that he didn't stay in that position because he would have had access to everything. So you see that they're able to hide behind.

1:01:17 Some people in some positions, but not everybody that happens to be in critical positions. And so if you're in a position and you're doing something and, you know, Casey obviously was one of them, but he may have wanted his own insurance policy, which is where Google came in and he wanted Google.

1:01:43 in charge of operations in order to do his operations and not the syndicate operations. And then they quickly said, yeah, that's not going to work. And they make up information. They leak it to the press and Google's gone. It's not an environment that you and I would be ever able to work in because we just don't do that kind of shit. But these are people that are very comfortable with leaving dead bodies in an alley.

1:02:16 That's another reason why we're never going to be in that job. So from Casey's standpoint, Hugo was a Paul guy. Well, Hugo was his guy. Hugo was his guy. So when you go into, if you went into an alligator pit.

1:02:39 You're going to take your own pet alligator to protect you from the other vicious alligators that's going to come bite your ass. Hoogle was his alligator. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. It makes sense. Yeah. Hoogle was not a good guy. Casey's not a good guy. But they know because they've been in the business long enough that you have to have your alligator. You have to have.

1:03:14 your guys in certain jobs in order to protect your six. And they just hope that their alligator that they're bringing into the swamp with them is more vicious and able to survive better than the alligators that are already in the swamp. So, anyway, let me go over here. Mager Sarge said, Sam Bateman Freed of

1:03:49 evidently worked with Fusion VPS as well and had, because he said, I'm going to just read it because I don't understand it. Sam Bateman Freed of Fusion had a crypto company that was a very heavy donor to ActBlue and leftist groups that was suspected of money laundering Ukrainian aid. Yeah, I know all of that. I just don't get the Fusion link.

1:04:18 Because I did a research paper on Sam Bateman Freed when that story first dropped about him doing all of those donations, like 20 to one on the Democrat side and then appeased a few Republicans. But yeah, that's crazy. And then SR 71, you said over here, Fusion GPS was the operations research firm. Yeah, they did PR work too. If you came.

1:04:49 Because he worked originally at the Washington Post. If you wanted smear stories, if you wanted good stories, he was your guy. He made you look really good or he made you look really bad. Carrie, go ahead. Hi, Colonel. Just a quick question. Do you think the U.S. government...

1:05:21 is legitimate? And also, do you think it's possible to have a real legitimate government anywhere? Well, I don't know what you mean by legitimate. I believe we have a U.S. government. Do I believe that most presidents are actually elected in what we think is a free and fair election? No. And yes, it's possible.

1:05:52 Because you get people like El Salvador's president and Argentina's president when you do, like in Argentina's case, paper ballots. And then all kinds of great things happen. Like they announced today for the first time in 125 years, they don't have a deficit. That's crazy. That's literally crazy. And it's also anti.

1:06:22 international syndicate. Because if you don't have a deficit, they can't F with you. The whole thing is keeping you in perpetual debt slavery. And that indicates to me that he has broken the chain. So yes, I think it's possible. Anybody else? And that really is an amazing, I mean, just amazing deal. Isn't it? It's crazy. Yeah.

1:07:00 It is one of the most phenomenal turnarounds of any country ever. In one year. It's crazy. Yeah, it makes me want to go down there and just walk around and talk to people because they have to literally just be, you know, stunned that this has happened to them after. And you guys, that's the part.

1:07:33 of this that breaks my heart that after world war ii basically argentina was um invaded literally invaded by rat line nazis and they took over the country and um made it a hellhole for all of the indigenous people they they literally co-opted that government and it has been

1:08:01 a death spiral to literally include aircraft dumping bodies out in the ocean death spiral for the Argentine people. And to think that they could change their election system, go to paper ballots, and a year later being debt-free from these sort of maniac international syndicate people. I just, I...

1:08:30 I mean, as much as I love what El Salvador has done as well, I think the Argentina story is just one of the most amazing stories ever. Field trip. Right? I'd love it. Could you imagine a whole plane full of us? Oh, my God. Tyler would not be able to fly with all the talking going on. We'd have to do some in-flight videos. All along, did you have something you wanted to add?

1:09:11 No, sorry. I may have accidentally raised my head, but actually I have nothing to say if you can believe it. You're funny. Okay. Does the Pope still have his warrant out for his arrest? Anybody know? I have not ever seen it. I would assume, and it's not a good thing to do, I realize that, that if they rescinded...

1:09:39 the arrest warrant that that would have been news. I have not ever seen. And as a matter of fact, probably about two months ago, I was doing a story where I actually went out and looked for any article on Yandex that would have said that, and I didn't see any. I haven't found it either, but I had heard a rumor of it.

1:10:08 So I think the rumor is crap because I think the Russians would be like the first to report it, to be honest with you. Maybe. Yeah. But you would think that I guess reporting it makes it a thing and they prefer the thing to go away. Because what I was going to say is you would think if it did go away, that they would tout the fact that it was bogus and it wasn't anything, but probably the better.

1:10:38 decision would be to not publicize the fact that it ever even existed. Who knows? They are such a corrupt place. It is astounding to me. Even what's going on in Ukraine now, where they're closing these churches that are thousands of years old. You know the Vatican has representatives, and I've been following them now for a couple of years. The Vatican has fucking representatives there. They're like the accountants.

1:11:09 And they're essentially looting all the archives of these old churches, the icons, the registries, thousands of years of history out of these churches. And taking all the icons, and Zelensky puts his damn face instead of the icons. They're holding meetings. They're turning it into supper clubs and fag bars, these beautiful old churches. And the Vatican's like right there with the books.

1:11:38 Buying all the stuff. Pennies on the dollar. Act now, guys. So what's that sound like? Sounds like a corrupt piece of shit. But it sounds like all of that going in like the WWF after they break a country that they're going to go and buy up all the resources, pennies on the dollar. Oh, I see where you're going. Yeah.

1:12:05 Whether it's religious or otherwise, I mean, that's exactly what they're doing. And what did the Japanese fascists do? They went around all of the Asian countries and confiscated all of the antiquities. Yeah, the jade. The jade and china. Diamonds, gold, all of the old ancient literature. And they never gave it back. I mean, everybody in Asia is still pissed off at Japan for not having given that stuff back.

1:12:34 Well, we never gave Iraq back their shit. We've been holding it for, quote, safekeeping for how long? Well, I've already saw reports of what was going on in Syria, the same thing, where they're going in and, yeah, and going to churches. Yep. Heritage sites. Yep. Heritage sites. They go in and they declare a war and they declare an area as a heritage site. So they go in and they loot it, literally.

1:13:04 To protect it from the war. And then the war is no longer on. But they don't give those things back. Right. They're actually going in. And burning crypts. Is what they're doing now. And by the way. In case there's any. Mockingbird media out there. Telling you otherwise. They are murdering Catholics people. Christians rather. And let me tell you something. Thank God. That a lot of these foreign channels. At least give you the heads up.

1:13:34 Last week, I just couldn't take it anymore. It was the most horrible, horrific thing. They're lining them up. They're shooting them. They're dragging them behind cars. They're beheading them, right? All the while, the U.S. is clapping like a bunch of trained SEALs. Yay, right? And Israel's going in and taking the Golan Heights, right? So, bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

1:14:00 It is absolutely against Christians. This is between good and evil. And let me tell you something, people. You better find God. Pray hard. Because this is horrible. Horrible. And you're not even getting a tenth of the story. And I can't even post it because it's so appalling. Thank you. Sorry. That's fine. All along. Oh, I thought you had your hand up. That was just a little icon thing. Does anybody else have anything?

1:14:32 Well, there's the latest thing going on with these drones, Colonel. I think last I heard on the news was they were saying this is from memes that are going around saying, well, this is Iran, this is this, that, and the other. And I'm sitting there saying, yeah, where'd they launch them from? Because they ain't got a ship close to our shores, and the longest range drone could get here, but it certainly ain't going back. Wow.

1:15:03 Isn't it interesting how they don't know what it is, but yet nobody's shooting them down? What the actual fuck, right? But the Pentagon is saying, oh, they're not ours. Yeah, they are. Okay, of course they are. Yes, of course they are. Because if they weren't ours, they'd be blowing them out of the sky. Well, let me add something here. You don't have to blow them out of the sky. You can jam them.

1:15:32 They can't fly if you can jam them. And there's nothing that flies over the United States that they don't want to fly. Well, isn't it interesting? I mean, who was it? Was it, oh gosh, William Cooper that was saying that as soon as you get blue beamed, know that they're really at their wits end. And whatever's happened is the best that they've got.

1:16:04 The end of the road for them is blue beam, you know, throwing throwing, you know, the UFOs at us. So, I mean, have we gotten there yet? I have a meme all set. I've been waiting for it for two years. Yeah. So, you know, and Donnie Vision points out the same thing with the Chinese balloons. Those could have been destroyed and would have been destroyed if they were not government.

1:16:38 I can't say it enough. There's nothing that happens in U.S. airspace that is not condoned by the United States government. Nothing. Right. They started tracking those over Alaska. And then do you remember after they shot it down?

1:16:54 off the coast of North Carolina so nobody can actually find it or get any retrievable information out of it. They started shooting down kids' science projects over the Great Lakes. Do you remember that? Using million-dollar missiles, right, to shoot down the kids' science project over the Great Lakes so they can look like badasses. Yeah. So, anything else? You should have your book taped by Saturday. I know. I know.

1:17:29 Did you mail it? Yes, today. The pictures are in the blue pill. Oh, no. I've been getting a play-by-play. They're amazing. I'm making bread. I'm making bread, but I didn't put too much salt in it this time. Oh, my God. It's so tragic. Yeah, every time I post about my...

1:17:59 wheat company um i get new people buying um wheat montana's uh wheat i need to call that lady or find her again on true social um and get her to sponsor us yeah that'd be nice sponsor the the rumble channel or something like that because you i have so many pictures of the bread that i've made um because it's the most amazing bread now i make mine in a bread maker um

1:18:29 But the bread is the most amazing bread ever. And maybe at Christmas when Brian and Duane comes over and we're eating the bread, because I make it every time they come over. And I used her oats in order to make my oatmeal snack. We can kind of get an on-camera recommendation for Wheat Montana.

1:18:57 Because it is amazing. It would be awesome. Yep, I wouldn't be doing the bread if it wasn't for Cousin It. He'd been talking me off the ledge to get me to cook better. Cool. That's cool. We're just peasants, though. We use King Arthur flour. Yeah, there's probably several out there that's really good.

1:19:24 I'm kind of one of those loyalists, and when this lady reached out to me on True Social and said, you know, hey, I own a ranch, and we make our own wheat, and we make our own oats, and they're not GMO or anything else, I was sold. Yeah, I can't wait to try some. I missed that one. Yeah, so as long as she's in business, I'll be a loyal customer. Sounds like Bridget's working for food, Colonel.

1:19:53 Yeah, we're all trying to eat more healthy, that's for sure. Well, maybe that's what I should do. That's a great idea, SR71. I'm going to send Bridget a sample box of Wheat Montana for my bookcase. Now, I did pay for the shipping for the bookcase.

1:20:21 But I do think that's an excellent idea. I don't know why I didn't even think of that. Thank you, SR71. Yay! What a great idea. Don't get excited, Bridget. I'm still waiting for my bourbon. I don't know anything about bourbon. I'm sorry. If it comes to hard liquor, I don't do it. You're going to have to pick something I know something about. Yep, same here. I think we should bottle Cousin It's voice. There you go.

1:20:56 Well, I got her on speed dial every time I need her. Incredible voice. Where did it come from? The Northeast. Can you not tell? Yes, but I meant specifically. But also spiritually. Yeah. There you go. Okay, I am totally lost. She wants to know where you're from originally, where you grew up. Cape Cod. I lived there. I lived in Provincetown.

1:21:34 Can't tell. You lost it. Carrie, you lost it when you moved to the Midwest. Now your wars are closed, aren't they? No, no. I'm from here. I've just lived like a billion places. One of them was Provincetown. Well, I can tell you're not from there because it's P-Town. Well, and Carrie, the more you talk about all of the places you've lived, you're looking more and more like a CIA asset. I'm just saying.

1:22:07 I'm a weirdo. I know people are like, I tell them things and they're like, you're not real. You're not a real person. You didn't do that. You're lying. I'm not saying you didn't do it. I'm just saying you're looking awful suspicious. I'm just a weirdo artist. I just don't line up. No, I'm not CAA. Oh my God. You're going to make me cry. I'm crying now. All right.

1:22:41 and get over it yeah well and probably now's a good time because i think this um often when i get on x um i think it's it needs to be said probably once a week i actually need to have like a talking point thing of here's the reminder i don't really give a crap about your feelings and when someone um mentions something

1:23:11 Along those lines, I actually have to sit for like two minutes and not respond because my first inclination is who cares? We're not in this spiritual information kinetic war because of your feelings. And everyone knows now, at least they should.

1:23:43 That there's probably nothing. You could be as nasty as you wanted to be, but there's probably nothing that would get you blocked faster than to think that I'm concerned about hurting your feelings when I'm revealing truth. Because I just literally don't care. My feeling has been destroyed because of the information that I discovered. So I really don't care about your feelings.

1:24:13 Everybody's rice bowl. That's not exactly. That's not to say I don't care about you. And that's not to say I don't care about your life. But if it's something that we're revealing as true and it hurts your feelings, I really don't care about that part. So I do have like three or four different pet peeves. That happens to be one of them. And everybody's rice bowl gets peed in. Everybody's rice bowl gets peed in.

1:24:43 At least once. Yeah, at least once. At least once. There's one thing I did want to bring up, Colonel. Hopefully everybody in the chat's listening, and thank you for being here. The Colonel put out two outstanding threads about unions. And if you haven't had the chance to read them yet, you should. Thank you, Colonel. So, you know, SR-71, thank you for bringing that up.

1:25:16 I found those coming across the AFL and at a later point, the AFL-CIO complicity in Operation Gladio was kind of a watershed moment for me. My dad, one of the biggest, I mean, you guys know I'm a daddy's girl. I love my dad to death. But one of the biggest,

1:25:46 points of contention with me and my dad was unions. Now, dad had two different experiences with it. He was a Teamsters truck driver the entire time that trucking was regulated because it was the only way that you're going to be a truck driver. He did not stay in the union when they deregulated it and he could be an owner-operator and, you know, he bought his own truck.

1:26:16 and went on merrily about his life. But he was a union guy at heart because he, like many people, believed the story that they not only represented and had the best intentions as it related to union members in the United States, but

1:26:45 They also touted, and I went and looked at the last one that I just did. I went and looked at several of those references in that article. And in many of the online pieces of it, what they did in, they referenced other like that are still live links.

1:27:09 that you can go out and look at the advertisements and the pamphlets and the handouts that they were giving to union members soliciting donations for their international brethren. And just to put that into context, these assholes were going around the world.

1:27:38 helping the CIA overthrow governments and calling anybody that wanted to unionize a communist. And they were soliciting donations from American union workers to fund the United States going into a foreign country and calling anybody that had the audacity to want to be in a union like them a communist. And of course, we know.

1:28:08 Tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of union members around the world were murdered. They were tortured. They were the target, along with the Catholic Church priests that believed in the liberation of the poor, which the CIA coined liberation theology, kind of like they coined us as being domestic terrorists.

1:28:39 The more I dug into that and was going down all of these different rabbit holes and looking at the literal propaganda and brainwashing of American union members, it, it really makes you want to throw up all along. Go ahead. Yeah. Colonel, obviously, I mean, unions are like Janice face number one in politics. I mean,

1:29:12 What you just described, using U.S. unions to raise funds from rank and file that are being abused by their corrupt union leaders to raise funds for CIA's AFIELD program that is, as you just said, used against unions in foreign countries. I mean, WTF to the nth degree over here.

1:29:44 I think it's kind of like it is a complex question, not the complex as in like we cannot understand this type complex, which is what usually people say when they'd want you to fuck off, as it were, but more like complexes. And you got to kind of like go into the details and and look for when things were changing. Right. Because what as you and I seem to agree, possibly.

1:30:15 You get these 50 year periods for when it's just, yeah, the union leaders will abuse the rank and file down the river. But sooner or later, you know, things begin to change. Like in 1931, in 1967, in 1968, things begin to change. The rank and file starts saying to hell with this. They pressured their union leaders to no longer get.

1:30:41 go along with the corrupt and utterly rotten DNC scum who, you know, are working with the GOP to follow CIA's policies, whether it be Vietnam or wherever. Right. And then somebody gets assassinated, you know. And so it's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't over here, because I mean, without any unions at all, I mean.

1:31:08 I'm open to, you know, suggestions here, but I mean, that was, you know, the gilded age, the greatest era of wealth inequality in U.S. history until right now. And so it's like you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I just think what it's the solution has to be the way I put it. I'm for unions, but not corrupt unions.

1:31:38 Unions, yes. Union leaders, hell no. And I think that the solution is to get, you know, a lot more people circulating about what happened to Walter Reuters in 1968. To me, that is not about then. That's about right now. Because the duopoly works together to censor the best stuff. And there's nothing on earth in...

1:32:06 in all U.S. history, in my opinion, that they cooperate better, both the Republicans, the Democrats, and the Democrats, aluminum siding the fake left. There's nothing that they censor more than the 1968 RFK campaign, precisely because you had a union leader who was actually doing what the rank and file wanted, because reality was intervening in these coffins coming back into the living rooms of the working class.

1:32:34 And they were no longer right in front of their noses. They could see that the Democrats were lying to them. So unions actually began to function as unions were. And then RFK, I'm sorry, Walter Reuther, who's joining again with MLK, who was doing the trash collectors, that's CIO, that's lower paid unions. All of these unions were uniting and there ended in three assassinations, the last and second.

1:33:04 In his second plane crash, perhaps that goes well with the youngest one in curls to the end of the Brady Bunch theme song over here. But it's like, how the hell can you cover up that kind of historically unique campaign that ends in three assassinations, the last in two plane crashes, only with a fake left that's helping the Democrats move what I would describe as corporate right.

1:33:32 Not culturally right, but corporate CIA right. Right. That's why I don't use the right and left because of what you just described. You're right from the perspective that this is one of the, and that's why once I came across it and I would, oh, so the book.

1:34:03 I got another book, which was called Transnational Anti-Communism and the Cold War. And there's a whole bunch of authors that wrote it. And it's about essays. It's not like a cohesive book. It's broken down into essays of a bunch of different people writing about that topic. And of course...

1:34:31 the international element of the labor unions was transnational. And there was a reference, a footnote, again, they kill me every time, that I looked up. And when I looked that up, it gave me some terms that I could search on. And I only search on the index for the real information because

1:34:59 When I put those terms in, and I'm not going to remember because I already closed that window, on Brave, which everybody goes, oh, Brave's great. When I searched them on Brave, I got like three articles that had all, I had four different terms based on the article in that book. And it gave me three different things. And that was it. I went on Yandex. And I mean, I think there was like seven pages worth of shit that.

1:35:28 contained all of them and the article the second article well all of the articles came up in the yandex search um just blew me out of the water um to know if you guys actually click on that link of the last thread that i did today i would just suggest you obviously don't have to read it unless you absolutely want to because i took out all of the good information um and

1:35:59 But you're obviously I love that you guys do do that. But halfway down, most of the footnotes for these articles are like, you know how you have the little cursor on the right edge of your computers. Usually you have to go down to like one tenth or nine tenths of the article before you get to the footnotes. Those footnotes in that article are half of the article. It is so well researched.

1:36:27 that I was blown away. And I didn't even scratch the surface. What I did was I went through like the first third of the footnotes and clicked on several of them, looked them up. I went about halfway down and I picked up another four or five of them and I looked them up and then I went to the end because there were so many.

1:36:54 Usually, I can pretty much go through all of them and give a cursory overview of what they're using as reference to be able to verify whether the article's worth bringing to you guys or not. I'm telling you, I was overwhelmed. There's been so much written on this. It is so well known and never, ever talked about. And the problem, as they said in that article, was...

1:37:23 So initially, it was people like William Bloom's book that we, when we were doing the around the world stuff, William Bloom's book was the book I used the most that had all of the coups broken down by country. In his book, he does mention the use of the unions. So I was familiar with the concept, but I kind of just let that kind of roll off because there's so much.

1:37:51 The way the article in the transnational book was written, it seemed to put it in a much bigger light. And I'm like, well, you know what I read about in William Bloom's book about the fact that they use unions. But again, not that big of a deal. Colonel, sorry for interrupting, but is there any way you could just repeat the title of that book? And also I have a question. Is that published by Verso, V-E-R-S-O Press? Because I have a bone to pick with that one.

1:38:21 Just, yeah, can you, could you just say the title? It says, is the publisher. Paul Grave McMillan is who the series is from. But yeah, let me just take a picture of it so that everybody can have it. I'll put it, I'll do it in the purple pill so that you can see it. It's actually a really good book.

1:38:51 It's kind of dry. It's not like one of my favorites, but some of those you just have to use. All right. I just posted it. Okay. And what I found the most fascinating is, you know, we caught on fairly early that the use of the word anti-communist was a joke, a real cruel, evil joke, but a joke nonetheless.

1:39:29 article, the one that I cited in my last thread, was the first article in almost two years that actually said it out loud in an academically written article that it was all horseshit. Because most people won't go that far. Most of these books, you know, almost 80 of them now, all say that it started out legitimately and then went off the rails.

1:40:00 Almost without exceptions. That's the way that it's presented. They had good intentions at the world anti-communist league, but then all of a sudden it became fascist, which is horseshit. And you can tell that when you dissected it like we have. But when I got down to the article, that part of it, I'm like, I'm like having, you know, I wanted to pop champagne bottles or something. I'm like.

1:40:28 Finally, somebody else said it out loud. So anyway, I get those small perks every once in a while. If there was ever a camera that followed me around, it would be so embarrassing. But anyway, all right, guys. I'm going to go ahead and jump off of here and go to dinner and get ready for my Alpha Warrior show, which should be at 930.

1:40:58 And we're going to be continuing the World Anti-Communist League, speaking of which, big joke that it is. But anyway, great podcast. Thanks, everybody, for being here. I appreciate it. And we will be back, obviously, tomorrow at four o'clock. And we should cross your fingers.

1:41:27 have a new show tomorrow, which will only be on, I mean, it'll come over to X like we normally do, but it's actually going to be a live Rumble show with Warhamster and start the Secret Society shows that he wanted to do. And so just so that you guys know that, that should be at noon tomorrow and four o'clock here. And that's it. We will see you tomorrow.

1:41:59 or tonight at 9.30 if you can stay up late. Bye.

Entities here

George H.W. Bush25 CIA25 William Casey25 Max Hugel25 Israel17 Ted Shackley14 Bobby Ray Inman14 United States12 Ronald Reagan12 Iran11 Alexander Haig10 Edwin Wilson7 William Colby6 U.S. Congress6 NSA5 Saudi Arabia5 Fusion GPS5 Soviet Union5 The Secret Team5 Richard Helms4 Michael Flynn4 Hakim Hoffman4 Jimmy Carter4 George Weiland4 Barry Goldwater4 The Enterprise4 Argentina4 Samuel F. McNeil3 Richard M. Bissell Jr.3 The Washington Post3 Thomas R. McNeil3 Fidel Castro3 Japan3 Directorate of Operations3 Operation Tora Tora3 Reagan Assassination Attempt3 Perkins Coie3 Richard Stilwell3 El Salvador2 James Jesus Angleton2

Claims made here

Ted Shackley worked_for George H.W. Bush book_quoted ▶ 14:40

“and a veteran CIA executive by the name of John Bross, B-R-O-S-S. Thanks to Bush, and this is Bush Sr., of course, these teams also turned to a confidential outsider group of advisors that had among t…”

Richard Stilwell worked_with Ted Shackley book_quoted ▶ 15:11

“According to Stilwell himself, he began to reorganize military intelligence working hand in hand with Shackley, with whom he had worked very closely at the CIA. But the fact that Admiral Bobby Ray Inm…”

Bobby Ray Inman had_conflict_with Ted Shackley book_quoted ▶ 15:11

Bobby Ray Inman headed NSA book_quoted ▶ 15:40

“Barry Goldwater's choice. So Inman was Barry Goldwater's choice for the director of CIA. And he didn't get the job either. But Inman had his own power base as head of the NSA, where he supervised 40,0…”

Edwin Wilson created EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 17:07

“And Klein had basically at this point stolen from him. Shackley, or taken it over. Shackley had to protect his interest in the International Research and Trade, which was called, so that's IRT. That w…”

Ted Shackley took_over International Research and Trade book_quoted ▶ 17:07

Edwin Wilson created International Research and Trade book_quoted ▶ 17:07

Edwin Wilson worked_under_tutelage_of Ted Shackley book_quoted ▶ 17:07

Ted Shackley took_over EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 17:07

Ted Shackley became_secret_operative_for George H.W. Bush book_quoted ▶ 18:08

“The performance, exactly after decades of being a CIA bureaucrat, finally had to play his major role in the new regime offstage. While protesting that he was just a retired spy staying away from anyth…”

Richard Stilwell ran_secret_operation_at United States book_quoted ▶ 18:34

“Ironically, this was his only real successful undercover work, said William Corson, who was one of the CIA officers that contributed to this book. By the end of 1981, Stilwell was running one of the m…”

Frank Carlucci appointed_as_deputy_to Caspar Weinberger book_quoted ▶ 19:03

“Despite the security, Shackley still had access to all of Stilwell's secrets. The private intelligence network had placed its loyalists everywhere in the new administration. Frank Carlucci, Danfield T…”

Ted Shackley had_access_to Richard Stilwell book_quoted ▶ 19:03

William Casey appointed_as_director_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 20:01

“William Casey longed to be the Secretary of State, and according to his biographer, was terribly disappointed not to get it. But when Reagan selected Casey, who had worked for the OSS in London during…”

Allen Dulles was_director_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 20:57

“Which, of course, Alan Dulles was the CIA director when his brother was the secretary of state and their sister ran the office that was the intermediary between the two, the research and intelligence …”

George H.W. Bush coordinated The Enterprise book_quoted ▶ 21:52

“would make conducting aggressive covert operations almost impossible. Bush turned to the new administration and began using a private intelligence network, which of course we know was set up a few yea…”

Donald Gregg involved_in Phoenix Program book_quoted ▶ 22:20

“intensely loyal supporters. One of the loyalists was Donald Gregg, who we've talked about many times. Donald Gregg was in Vietnam and was an intricate person in the administration of the Phoenix progr…”

Donald Gregg hired Felix Rodriguez book_quoted ▶ 22:50

“Because he became President Bush's national security advisor, and he immediately turned around and hired Felix Rodriguez, who was front and center in the Iran-Contra scandal. He is also a Cuban exile …”

Donald Gregg subordinate_to Ted Shackley book_quoted ▶ 22:50

Felix Rodriguez involved_in Iran-Contra book_quoted ▶ 22:50

George H.W. Bush used_to_cover_up Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 23:20

“The key to Bush's manipulation of Congress and his colleagues in the new administration was the continued presence of Bobby Ray Inman at the top of the intelligence community. Because Inman was a favo…”

NSA had_access_to_communications_of Edwin Wilson book_quoted ▶ 24:47

“who had spent a lifetime trying to outshine his father, would try it once again. For Bush and his rogue element, getting Inman out of the NSA was a real priority because the NSA had constant access to…”

NSA had_access_to_financial_transactions_of EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 25:19

“but they didn't want him having the access to be able to see it himself. The NSA handled all encrypted messaging for the government. More important, the NSA had access to all overseas communication an…”

Bobby Ray Inman had_access_to_info_proving Edwin Wilson book_quoted ▶ 25:47

“Eavesdropping. Wilson, who had been indicted in April 1980, was on the run and was openly threatening in phone conversations to expose the entire operation. Inman also had access to information that c…”

Edwin Wilson threatened_to_expose The Enterprise book_quoted ▶ 25:47

Barry Goldwater told William Casey book_quoted ▶ 26:12

“Inman had already demonstrated his willingness to blow the whistle on illegal operations as he had on Billy Carter. Inman would be a serious problem if he ever got wind of this operation. The solution…”

Bobby Ray Inman demonstrated_willingness_to_blow_whistle_on Jimmy Carter book_quoted ▶ 26:12

Barry Goldwater pressed_president_to_urge Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 26:40

“Goldwater told Casey that that basically meant Inman. Goldwater and Bush both pressed the president to urge Inman to take the job. Inman agreed on the condition that his term would be only 18 months a…”

Bobby Ray Inman agreed_to_term_condition CIA book_quoted ▶ 26:40

George H.W. Bush pressed_president_to_urge Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 26:40

Lincoln Furrer replaced Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 27:09

“by Lieutenant General Lincoln Furrer. F-A-U-R-E-R. Oh, God. I forgot about this part. Furrer, however you say his name, was the former deputy chairman of Sando. Gosh, I'm sure he's a great guy. This i…”

George H.W. Bush urged Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 27:39

“Inman considered himself a friend of Bush's and was reporting back to Bush on Casey's activity. At the same time, Inman's rival, Ted Shackley, was also reporting to Bush. Bush urged Inman, as deputy d…”

Bobby Ray Inman wanted_to_indict Ted Shackley book_quoted ▶ 28:10

“Rather than keeping him silent, Inman wanted to have him in open court to indict Shackley. The administration quickly began to split into two intelligence factions, Bush and his crew versus Casey, Sec…”

William Casey did_not_trust Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 28:39

“Casey did not trust Inman because Inman had a close relationship with Bush. Inman did not approve or trust Shackley and was never officially told anything about Shackley's off the book operations with…”

Bobby Ray Inman did_not_trust Ted Shackley book_quoted ▶ 28:39

George H.W. Bush placed_against_each_other Jack Lee book_quoted ▶ 29:10

“of Inman while still making Bush happy. Bush placed Jack Lee and Inman off of each other to get what he wanted. Bush ran Inman like his own intelligent agent at the CIA, and Inman, increasingly at odd…”

George H.W. Bush ran_as_agent Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 29:10

Bobby Ray Inman became_more_loyal_to George H.W. Bush book_quoted ▶ 29:10

George H.W. Bush placed_against_each_other Bobby Ray Inman book_quoted ▶ 29:10

George H.W. Bush viewed_as_threat_by Alexander Haig book_quoted ▶ 29:10

Alexander Haig lunched_with William Casey book_quoted ▶ 29:38

“At a meeting at Reagan's oceanfront home in Pacific Palisade during the transition, Bush had spoken to Reagan about Haig. Quote, do you do what you want to, but if you pick Al Haig, I predict you'll h…”

George H.W. Bush warned_against Alexander Haig book_quoted ▶ 29:38

Alexander Haig talked_to Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 30:04

“The two men became great friends. Casey learned much about Haig during these sessions, including the fact that Haig had independently began talking to the Soviets about abandoning Castro. Haig wanted …”

William Casey learned_from Alexander Haig book_quoted ▶ 30:04

Alexander Haig involved_in_effort_to_remove Fidel Castro book_quoted ▶ 30:36

“Casey learned that Haig had played a key role in the early 1960s in the Kennedy administration's effort to remove Castro. While many in the Reagan administration were sympathetic with Haig's view on C…”

Ted Shackley ran_programs_against Fidel Castro book_quoted ▶ 31:05

“You know, lead them on, play them. It was in this area that Casey turned to Bush's off-the-books intelligence apparatus. After all, Shackley had run all of the anti-Castro programs for the Kennedys, a…”

William Casey turned_to The Enterprise book_quoted ▶ 31:05

Alexander Haig claimed_control_during Reagan Assassination Attempt book_quoted ▶ 31:34

“competition to Bush when in a bizarre attempt to calm American public after the attempted assassination on Reagan, Haig went on television to say that he was in control. You know, I'm sorry, but now I…”

Alexander Haig viewed_as_competitor_by George H.W. Bush book_quoted ▶ 32:05

“that he would end up having to resign. And he does so within the next year. For Bush, Haig's fall meant that his potential competitor in the 1988 presidential nomination had destroyed himself. So now …”

George H.W. Bush headed CIA book_quoted ▶ 33:57

“Meanwhile, Bush filled a vacuum in the new administration by presiding over all foreign policy and national security decisions while Reagan recovered from his illness, from the wounds. Reagan's conval…”

Fred Thompson headed U.S. Congress book_quoted ▶ 35:27

“So after Casey was appointed DCI, a devastating story broke tying Casey to an organized crime figure in New Orleans. The Senate Intelligence Committee quickly pulled together an investigation headed b…”

William Casey appointed CIA book_quoted ▶ 35:27

Max Hugel headed Stentronics book_quoted ▶ 38:50

“His business career had roots in post-war Japan, where as a young Army intel man, he had interrogated Japanese soldiers who had been interned in the Soviet Union during the war. Hugo went on to a busi…”

Max Hugel headed Brothers Industry Limited book_quoted ▶ 38:50

James Jesus Angleton headed Counterintelligence Corps book_quoted ▶ 39:22

“Unknown to Hugel, the CIA's counterintelligence staff was very interested in his Japanese business associations, and some of which had served in Soviet POW camps. According to James Angleton, the long…”

George Weiland spied_on Iran book_quoted ▶ 43:17

“that was located in Iraq was proof that the Iraqis were planning to match Israel's nuclear weapon capability, something had to be done. The Israelis had the information because back in 1977, when Shac…”

George Weiland member_of U.S. Department of Energy book_quoted ▶ 43:46

“Hoogle had came to the CIA. Weiss was head of security and safeguards at the Department of Energy, and he's basically a CIA agent posing as a civilian in DOE. One of the most critical positions in DOE…”

William Casey supplied_arms_to Israel book_quoted ▶ 45:44

“missiles being launched and that type of thing. So the U.S. was proposing to sell $8.5 billion worth of an AWACS package to Saudi Arabia. And Casey told Israel that he wants them to pretend like they'…”

Israel carried_out_attack Operation Tora Tora documented ▶ 46:43

“When Casey arrived in Tel Aviv in April of 1981 to meet with General Hoffey, he brought with him a wealth of SR-71 spy satellite photography, as well as information on the air defenses of Iraq. On Jun…”

CIA spied_on Operation Tora Tora book_quoted ▶ 46:43

George H.W. Bush supplied_arms_to Saddam Hussein book_quoted ▶ 48:13

“and that were under U.S. license and also classified information to Iran. That, after all, had been part of the October surprise deal. What Casey didn't know was that Bush, who was a member of the Saf…”

George H.W. Bush member_of Safari Club book_quoted ▶ 48:13

William Casey appointed Max Hugel book_quoted ▶ 50:39

“When Casey surprised nearly everyone by naming Hogle to the CIA's most sensitive job, which was the director of operations on May 1981, the old boy clandestine services turned to Shackley to help get …”

Max Hugel removed_from_power CIA book_quoted ▶ 52:35

“The McNeil story destroyed Hogle's government career, and he resigned from the CIA in 1981. Then the McNeils suddenly disappeared, too, compounding questions about them and the fact that a third broth…”

Samuel F. McNeil exposed Max Hugel book_quoted ▶ 52:35

Thomas R. McNeil exposed Max Hugel book_quoted ▶ 52:35

John Stein succeeded Max Hugel book_quoted ▶ 53:07

“John McMahon, who had preceded Hoogle as the head of the DO, said with irony, I don't know how those tapes got to the Washington Post. And he's a big fat liar. It might have been one of the agency's c…”

Michael Flynn member_of National Security Council host_asserted ▶ 1:00:12

“And then, of course, Trump basically, according to the syndicate, makes the mistake of putting him at NSA. And their attack on Flynn not only was to keep Flynn out of the National Security Council, be…”

AFL-CIO complicity_in Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:25:16

“I found those coming across the AFL and at a later point, the AFL-CIO complicity in Operation Gladio was kind of a watershed moment for me. My dad, one of the biggest, I mean, you guys know I'm a dadd…”

Walter Reuther member_of AFL-CIO host_asserted ▶ 1:32:34

“And they were no longer right in front of their noses. They could see that the Democrats were lying to them. So unions actually began to function as unions were. And then RFK, I'm sorry, Walter Reuthe…”