The Colonel's Corner The Medusa Files Part 17

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0:00 Hello, hello, hello. Welcome to another edition of the Colonel's Corner. We are going to continue with our book, The Medusa Files. And we're in the last section of the book. There's three or four more chapters. A couple of them are long. That'll take us a couple of days to get through.

0:32 We're on chapter 30, page 305. It starts off talking about terrorism, foreign and domestic. And basically, he gives us the dictionary definition of terrorism. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence to intimidate or coerce societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. Basic definition.

1:05 He goes through and I'm not going to read all of it. He talks about terrorism in a classical definition has happened quite often. He gives a couple of examples like the original Ku Klux Klan of terrorizing people. And he talks about it being not really anything new.

1:36 You could even say that the British citizens, when they came to the United States, in some cases terrorized the Indians and the Indians terrorized them. So he just talks about that in general. He moves on to talk about there are five land-based target categories, which I find interesting. Of course, we know about the...

2:05 blowing up of ships and stuff like that. That's in a different category, according to the author. Still terrorism. But he wants to focus the rest of the book on these land-based terrorist targets. He lists five of them. The private building or structure, like bridges, dams, or buildings. A public or government building. Mass.

2:41 transit on the ground. He includes mass transit in the air and large gatherings of people. And we've noticed a pattern of some of those large gatherings of people being music venues in our research. So he talks about them. And he goes on to say that, interestingly enough,

3:14 from 1993 to 1996-ish, basically all five of them happened. There was the bombing of the World Trade Center in New York, private building, the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma, the derailment of the Sunset Limited in Arizona.

3:47 The TWA 800, which we just went through. And some people may include the Olympics in Atlanta as being another one, even though it didn't have the mass casualty effect that I think they were after. It certainly would fit the description of.

4:14 the last large gathering of people, regardless of its success or not. So he starts off in chapter 31 about the World Trade Center bombing, hiding the truth. On February 26, 1993, when downtown New York City was shaken by an explosion, pedestrians who were able to see the origination point through the jungle of high-rise buildings

4:44 could see the black smoke pouring out of the 110-story World Trade Center bombing. No one realized at the moment what they were actually seeing. Though damage to the building was heavy, it was not as devastating as had been planned by the instigators. Had the bomb, which had been placed in a rental truck, accomplished the damage intended, and had the target tower

5:15 collapsed. It was estimated that the death toll could be in the realm of 20,000. New York City bomb squad, police, emergency personnel, and federal agents of the ATF and FBI swarmed the scene. Photographs were taken inside the building of a huge hole blasted through the floor of the underground parking garage. Shattered columns, bent rebar.

5:46 Fire damage, automobiles, blah, blah, blah. Witnesses and victims interviewed and statements taken by bystanders. All standard police procedures. But little hope was exhibited at the time that the case would be solved because all who deal with bombings know that most of the evidence destroyed in the blast and that perpetrators are normally long gone.

6:15 But in this case, the public would be amazed at the speed in which the FBI solved the case. In less than 30 days, the FBI managed to round up five suspects, all members of a notorious Islamic terrorist cell located at a quote unquote mosque in Brooklyn. This so-called mosque, actually a floor of rented rooms over a storefront.

6:46 was headed by an Egyptian radical Muslim fundamentalist called Abdel Rahman. Rahman, who delivered his anti-American great Satan sermons in two different locations, the Brooklyn headquarters and in a mosque in New Jersey City, New Jersey. He had been exiled by the Egyptian government for subversive activities. Now, I'm gonna stop there.

7:18 Because this is clue number one. Egypt exiles him and somehow the State Department and everybody involved and who gets into and out of the United States allows this guy to come into the United States. Clue number one. So we know what kind of guy he is. We have all of the intercepts.

7:58 Of the Egyptian government that we know. Thanks to Crypto AG. So we know exactly who this guy is. And he's just allowed to live among us. So supposedly he's a follower of Iranian fundamentalism. Again, another red flag. What was our relationship in the 1990s with Iran? Oh, that's right.

8:30 We still didn't like them, but we've got one of their clerics here? Okay. Rahman was connected to more than just a few local radical followers. And everybody acts like they don't know any of this. His international contacts included members of the Hamas and Hezbollah and former Afghan war vets who had served as volunteers for the Mujahideen. That's weird.

9:03 So he fits all the profiles that they're supposedly tracking, and he's just allowed to hang out. Other connections ran directly to Iran, who supposedly provided $100,000 to Raman and anti-American domestic terror activities. He also had ties to Pakistan. You know, Pakistan, where we've got a slew of CIA people running all over the country.

9:37 There were 20 former Mujahideen training camps, of course, that your tax dollars paid for, that was set up in Pakistan by their ISI with the CIA assistance during the Afghan war. So the CIA knows exactly who this guy is. So does the FBI. These camps set up in Pakistan by 1992.

10:07 were training up to 3,700 terrorists at a time under the tutelage of the CIA. Do you think they weren't keeping track of who they were? You'd be wrong. The Pakistani-trained zealots were being trained and armed for one thing, to export terrorists all over the world to include the United States, thanks to the CIA.

10:33 Two months after the initial arrest, eight other Islamic terrorists was arrested by the FBI in connection with the bombing. Five actually caught in the act of mixing explosives. With these arrests, information was released that a nefarious plot that ranged far greater than the World Trade Center bombing existed and that other targets included the New York Federal Building, tunnels to include the Holland and Lincoln Tunnel,

11:05 the UN building. Besides the bombings, the terrorists also planned to assassinate several key figures to include the UN Secretary General, who at the time was Boutis Ghali, and New York Senator D'Amato. According to the first official story, the FBI and ATF recovered a small piece of the truck used in the bombing and traced it to a rental agency.

11:37 a small piece of a rental truck. As luck would have it, one of the bombers returned to the rental agency shortly after the bombing to explain that the truck had been stolen to get his deposit back. Of course, he was arrested because they just happened to be there waiting for him to show up because they're evidently retarded.

12:09 But according to the second official story, it seems that the FBI had managed to plant an informant within the terror cell. Oh, so the FBI knew about all of it? Huh. And that informant secretly recorded the conversations between Sheikh Ahmed and those arrested in the planned terror wave of bombings that were to begin on July 4th.

12:42 According to the indictment, which was filed in federal court, Rahman had blessed the bombers to continue with their jihad. According to court documents, all 21 were eventually arrested or indicted. This second story, however, does not explain how the FBI lost their handle on the case and allowed the event to happen. Even though 21 were arrested or indicted,

13:11 According to the court documents, one of the main players had escaped the FBI. That was Abdul Basit Mahmad Abdul Kareem, now known internationally as Ramzi Youssef. One of the elusive ghosts of the Islamic Terror Underground Network is Iraqi-trained Ramzi Youssef.

13:42 Yusuf prided himself on being a world-class bomb maker. Huh, who teaches people how to make bombs? He was capable of constructing explosives from easily obtainable chemicals and compounds that were not controlled by government authorities. I wonder who else has that unique skill and who teaches large groups of people how to do that?

14:14 He was also a skilled actor traveling around under numerous assumed names, identity cards, passports, and capable of convincing immigration and passport officials that he was little more than a harmless refugee seeking political asylum. Supposedly from Saddam Hussein. That's crazy. I know an entire network of people that fit that description.

14:45 being able to get fake IDs and passports and go in and out of customs because there's intelligence operatives sheep dipped into customs. That's weird. Yusuf was a quote unquote soldier who traveled freely within the framework of international terrorist organizations and supposedly was one of the most dangerous people on earth.

15:18 On September 1st, 1992, Yusuf arrived in New York JFK Airport and presented himself to an immigration control officer as a quote-unquote displaced Iraqi. He said that if he returned to Iraq, he'd be executed. He requested political asylum and was granted entry until an INS interview date could be established.

15:50 This is 1992. We had just been in Iraq in 1991, was still there in 1992, and basically was monitoring all of this. Okay? Just want to put this in context. He was photographed, fingerprinted, and run through a computer. Because Ramzi Youssef was one of many names that he used.

16:24 supposedly his fingerprints, which doesn't really matter what name he's using, didn't create any suspicion of him at all. Who gives a shit what name he's using? That's why we do fingerprints. Exactly how much Yusuf had to do with the world trade bombing and follow on plans may never be known. What is known is that on December 8th,

16:56 Yusuf requested postponement of his INS hearing because according to him, he had yet to hire an attorney. September, October, November, December, three months. Then on the second date in January of 26th, a lawyer appeared for Yusuf and explained that he had been involved in an automobile accident.

17:28 couldn't make it. Another date was scheduled, but before it was reached, the bombing occurred. By this time, Yusuf had fled the country and was lurking in the shadow underworld of Islamic terrorism. And interestingly enough, we know enough to know that not only was he in Pakistan, but he also, weirdly enough, was in the Philippines.

17:58 Well, how do we know he was in the Philippines if we're not tracking him? How do we know that he was in Pakistan if we're not tracking him? The Philippines, again. You know, where the CIA infamously has terrorist training camps. That Philippines. Yusuf then surfaced in 1996 when he was finally arrested in Pakistan and extradited to the U.S.

18:30 At the time of his arrest by the Philippine police, he had been busy working on a plan to blow up an aircraft over the Pacific. What must be told at this point is the third story of the FBI's quote-unquote investigation. During the court hearing in New York, information surfaced that there was more to the so-called investigation than had originally been reported.

19:08 No kidding, there always is. It seems that the FBI actually had more than a simple informant inside Rahman's terrorist cell. What they actually had was an Egyptian intelligence officer by the name of Emad Salem Salam, who reported directly to the FBI.

19:38 control agent, Special Agent John Antisev. Salem, it turns out, was hired to infiltrate the Rahman group long before the bombing took place and consistently reported on its activities, including their plans to bomb the World Trade Center. So known to the government officials with a big explanation point. What the FBI did not know, supposedly,

20:12 was that Salam recorded his conversations with his control agents. The tapes tell a far different story than the official version of the investigation. According to the New York Times, which managed to obtain secret transcripts of some of the conversations, the FBI knew in advance when the bomb was going to be planted, who was going to do it, the names of everyone on the terror cell, and where the truck was going to be rented from. Worse,

20:43 One tape went even further. It seems the FBI not only knew about the planning, they actually assisted the bombers in obtaining and constructing the bomb. Huh. The U.S. government teaching people how to build bombs. Boy, does that sound familiar. The original FBI plan was for the informant to provide a non-explosive substance that would be labeled ammonium nitrate.

21:16 then use it to construct a quote unquote bomb that would not go off. All the FBI needed to show in court was the elements of a conspiracy. It would be a classic sting operation and the FBI would come out in the media as a hero. A much needed polishing of their tarnished image since their debacle at Ruby Ridge. Huh. And of course, we can't forget about Waco.

21:52 which happened two days after the World Trade Center bombing. Huh, that's weird. That's a lot of terrorism going on in the United States by the FBI all at one time. That's really weird. Instead of arresting the conspirators when they received inside information that the bombing was being planned,

22:23 The FBI instead kept their source in place and continued to monitor the progress. According to the transcripts, the plan was changed and the informant was directed to provide the terrorist with real explosives. The reasoning behind this was instead of just simply showing intent, that may not be enough. So if real explosives were discovered, then the case,

22:56 would make itself. Weird. According to reports and transcripts, Salem was instructed to not only provide the materials, but to give instructions and help in building the bomb. It makes you wonder where Ramzi Yousef was during this time, as Yousef was also a master bomb maker, which would preclude the need for Salem.

23:29 to provide any instructions. Part of the story regarding Salem's participation surfaced when a transcript of a secret recording he made with his handlers surfaced. According to it, he was questioned about his expenditures on his expense report. Oh, good God. Now we're going to nickel and dime the FBI informant that's giving real explosives to terrorists.

23:56 He explained that his expenses rose during the month the bomb was built because the cost of building the Trade Center bomb was much bigger. In the transcript, he admitted that he used government funds to procure the material and build the bomb. And he emphasized that's what he was told to do by the FBI. So the FBI bombed the World Trade Center? That's weird. Using an Egyptian intelligence officer?

24:35 According to this, he was paid a million dollars for his testimony against terrorist cells. The terrorist cells that wouldn't exist except for we let them in our country. The Egyptians followers of Rahman swore allegiance and further violence. Well, if you've got the violence being funded by the United States government, why not?

25:05 In an AP article that appeared shortly after Rahman was convicted, a militant Muslim group has threatened to attack American targets to avenge the life sentence imposed on him for plotting to blow up the New York Trade Center. All American interests will be legitimate targets, they said, for our struggle for Rahman and our brothers.

25:36 We created the terror event and then they glom onto it and say they're going to have more terrorist events because the guy that this FBI was funding and setting up that was allowed into our country to begin with for some unknown reason is going to affect more radical Islamic terrorism on the American people instead of the FBI just getting rid of them all.

26:07 Huh, that's crazy. Then we move on to chapter 32. We will not get done with this chapter. It's a long one. And it deals with Oklahoma. So we've already established, which we've done for years, that government's involvement in all of this to include teaching people how to build bombs. Weird.

26:40 The author says that my pager went off at exactly 5.15 p.m. on April 21st, 1995. The number that flashed was that of my office at the air support unit of Tulsa Police Department. Since his workday ended at five, my first thought, according to the author, came that the

27:11 dispatcher had issued a call out for the police helicopter and I was being summoned to fly the mission. I could not have been more wrong, he said. I picked up the microphone and called into the office. Where are you, my supervisor said. I'm on my way home, at least until now, what's up? The FBI is looking for you, he said. They called the chief's office asking where you were at. That's funny, the SAC.

27:41 has my pager number and my office number. Why didn't they just page me? I don't know, he said, unless it's a different agent. Okay, I'll give them a call. This was highly unusual, according to the author, who is on the Tulsa Police Department. He says that most of his experience in dealing with the feds occurred during duty hours.

28:16 A hundred thoughts went through his mind as he looked up the pager number for the FBI SAC. He returned my page. Hey, Marty, Craig Roberts said, the author of the book. What's going on? I don't know. Why? I just got a page that someone in your office was looking for me. No, not me. I'll check it out, though. A few minutes later, he called back.

28:49 It's in regard to the Oklahoma City bombing, he said. We could use some help. And again, this is totally weird. So if the Oklahoma bombing is not being routed through the normal FBI station chief to reach out to the local police department for the people that they work with directly, what's going on? He says, we don't have a clue what we're dealing with yet.

29:23 The FBI guy does. And now we have this guy, McVeigh. We don't know anything about him other than he's supposed to be an army deserter from Fort Riley. We know you have contacts that we don't have. And we thought you might help us. I thought about this for a second, the author says, wondering why they wanted to bring in an outsider, a local cop.

29:55 into the investigation. This was highly unusual, according to him. So he says, Marty, just exactly what do you want me to do? You know, just put your head to it and see what you can find out through the network. Keep us advised. Who knows? Maybe you could write another book. So that was it. Marty had read two of my books, Kill Zone, A Sniper Looks at Daly Plaza, and

30:26 Hellhound, a techno thriller, a Middle Eastern terrorist striking a target inside the U.S. Evidently, some of his other agents had also read them. Marty, if you'll make it an official request through the chief's office and he approves it, I'll dig in and see what I can find.

30:47 I had just gone through a political altercation with the chief as I had just returned from Washington, D.C., where I testified before Congress about the so-called assault weapons ban in the omnibus crime act. Though I took vacation days to go there and was off duty, I testified in uniform. There had been no regulations or rule against that activity at the time in Tulsa.

31:16 They didn't like that. The chief said it was political. It resulted in a week-long media tennis match that ended up with him having to be called onto the carpet in front of the chief. So he had just been reprimanded for not involving his chief and he wasn't going to do it again. One of those items

31:42 On the agenda at the meeting, I agreed to was to keep the chief advised on any outside activities that involve police work, whether I was wearing my uniform or not. The FBI request was definitely going to involve things that were outside his police duty. By 6 p.m. that evening, he received another phone call from the chief's office granting permission.

32:12 to officially assist the FBI. He began his investigation the next day. Little did I realize I would work with the FBI until April of 1996, when I retired from the police department after 26 years, then continued my work into writing the book that we are currently doing. What began as a simple call for assistance developed into another investigation on a scale that

32:42 probably had not happened for a very long time, maybe JFK, inside the United States. What follows is my official report to the FBI that I turned in just prior to his retirement. It will serve to give the reader an explanation of many things that did not appear in the media and an idea of the scope and scale of the event as it actually happened and was subsequently covered up.

33:13 by the U.S. government. His report was written, ironically, you guys aren't going to believe it, on April 19th, 1995, that infamous date again, titled the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building. On Wednesday morning at approximately 9 a.m. Central Time,

33:49 I'm sorry. He's dating it the day of the event. This isn't the date he turned his report in. That's my mistake. The world came to realize that the worst terrorist attack against a civilian target in history had occurred in almost the geometrical center of the United States. What followed became one of the greatest investigations.

34:15 and by far the greatest manhunt in American history. Only in the investigation following the assassination of JFK and the manhunt for John Wilke Booth after the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln came close. No resources were spared. And even though the prime suspect, former Army veteran Timothy McVeigh, was captured within 80 minutes of the blast seemingly escaping from the area through rural Oklahoma.

34:44 law enforcement agencies pulled out all stops in an attempt to identify, locate other possible suspects, except for John Doe number two. We don't know where he went. We don't even know that he exists now. At first, the original reports from witnesses described two Middle Eastern males, two Middle Eastern males wearing blue jumpsuits and jogging suits.

35:17 as being spotted in the immediate area of the building. The media picked up on this lead and the FBI and international law enforcement agencies rapidly becoming involved, working feverishly to track any such suspects. A single Middle Eastern male was apprehended in London at Heathrow Airport, allegedly with bomb-making materials in his luggage.

35:47 He had left the US earlier that day and came under immediate scrutiny due to the description, age, timing, and profile. Does Timothy McVeigh look like a Middle Eastern man? But within 24 hours, he was discarded as a subject and the media attention immediately shifted directions and focused on right-wing extremists. Oh, so they're not Middle Eastern at all.

36:19 They're going to be white males that are right-wing domestic terrorists. We've got our new boogeyman. Oddly, the media was evidently notified of an impending raid on a rural Michigan farmhouse to be conducted by federal agents. I wonder how that happened. You know, like CNN showing up at Roger Stone's house. I don't know how that happens. The resident of the farm was the brother of an acquaintance.

36:51 of Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols. McVeigh had been identified as John Doe 1 as he was about to make bond from the county jail in Perry, Oklahoma. He had been apprehended by an Oklahoma State trooper named Charlie Hanger as he sped north on Interstate Highway just over an hour after the bombing. Strangely, his car had no license tag.

37:20 And when he was stopped, even though armed, offered no resistance, which again is weird because if I'm going to bomb a building, I'm definitely going to use a getaway car that doesn't have a tag that would get me stopped by the police. Subsequent investigation led to Terry Nichols, then Nichols' brother, James Nichols Farm in Michigan.

37:51 At this point, a raid to serve a search warrant, which should have been low key to media exposures, became a major media event. Network cameras arrived with the raiding force and set up nearby using telescopic lenses to record the entry and perimeter teams as they moved into position and proceeded with their search. So if you're looking for a staged event,

38:21 Just like what happened with Roger Stone, you're looking at it. Because everybody that's doing a serious raid calls the media for them to come film it. That's what you call propaganda, not police work. During this quote-unquote event, the various news commentators made numerous references to McVeigh's alleged ties with the Michigan militia.

38:52 described as an extreme right-wing fringe radical group. This is called creating a narrative. When they're doing a psychological operation on us, this is how it unfolds. You got to weave in all of those little stories along the lines. We're going to place them exactly where we want them.

39:20 We're going to do and notify the media so that we can broadcast this and hypnotize the entire American population into our psyops. You're watching it unfold. From that point on, both the investigation and the media centered their inquiries on right-wing organizations, ranging from the Ku Klux Klan, of course, you know, the people in bed with the SPLC.

39:49 and other right-wing supremacist groups. And since Waco, they have to be the ones that are affiliated with the Christian too, because we wrote that into the narrative. Ruby Ridge, white supremacist, Waco, Christian, Oklahoma, domestic terrorist, right-wing. The building of a psyops.

40:23 it rapidly became obvious that the media was being directed and were not reporting impartially. In other words, they're participating in the psyops. When independent investigators began to trace the origins of the media and henceforth the government's focus on right-wing and especially constitutional paramilitary groups and so-called militia organizations,

40:52 What was discovered was self-explanatory. The so-called experts in these fields of tracking hate groups that were feeding the media centered on two organizations, the Anti-Defamation League, the ADL, described by other Jewish organizations as extreme left, and the very liberal

41:21 Southern Poverty Law Center. What? The Southern Poverty Law Center was involved in creating the psyops around the Oklahoma bombing? Huh. Color me shocked. They were reportedly connected to the ADL. It began to become apparent that these two organizations were using the event in Oklahoma City.

41:52 for their own ends and their own agenda, which of course is tied to the federal government because that's where they get their funding. Evidence of this became apparent as certain liberal politicians, including anti-gun Congressman Chuck Schumer of New York, began a massive onslaught through the media against various paramilitary groups, so-called militia hate groups.

42:22 conservative, religious, and constitutional groups, because you got to make that sweep really wide. You got to get them all. They included the NRA in the sweep. And one reporter even attempted to link it directly to the bombing, alleging that it provided financial support to Timothy McVeigh. PsyOps turned up a degree.

42:52 Meanwhile, the investigation increased its intensity as witnesses were interviewed in various states. From the truck rental in Kansas, where McVeigh was reported to have rented the Ryder truck, a composite drawing was made of another individual, John Doe No. 2. A nationwide manhunt ensued, eventually running down suspects from California to North Carolina, the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico. Still.

43:23 Backed by a $2 million reward and hundreds of telephone calls, law enforcement officers failed to develop but a few significant leads, one leading to Kingman, Arizona, and a third co-conspirator, Michael Fortier, an old army buddy of McVeigh's and Nichols.

43:44 But Fortier was not John Doe number two. And this portion of the investigation ended when a soldier on leave from Fort Riley, who with a sketch of the vaguely resembled John Doe number two sketch, was located, identified, and released as a mistaken identity on the part of witnesses at the Ryder rental.

44:10 As the investigation continued, utilizing massive resources from local, state, and federal law enforcement, plus independent investigators and investigative journalists, many discrepancies began to appear. According to the official version of the events, McVeigh, a radical right-wing loose cannon, planned to attack the U.S. government in revenge for the Waco debacle.

44:40 from his target list to other federal buildings in other cities, then proceeded to recruit Fortier and Timothy Nichols to assist in the preparations, allegedly using funds obtained by selling guns in Arkansas from an alleged ATF informant who later said that the story was completely fed to him and fabricated because he had alleged that the guns that Timothy McVeigh was selling were stolen and then said he made it up.

45:12 McVeigh bought plastic barrels, blue color, tons of ammonium nitrate fertilizer, detonation cord primers, fused gallons of some type of fuel oil and diesel fuel and rented the truck. He and Nichols then took all of this material to a remote location and by themselves mixed two and a half tons of ammonium nitrate and fuel oil in the barrels inside the truck.

45:43 wrapped them with a detonation cord and time fuse. Then McVeigh by himself drove the truck to Oklahoma. Well, they didn't because we have the witness statement saying John Doe number two was with them. Supposedly then lit the fuse and ran away. The yellow Mercury marquee with no license plates or a brown GM pickup truck, take your pick, with smoke glass.

46:18 supposedly had been driven to the location by a dark-complected person. All of this was recorded by an ATM video camera or a Southwestern Bell security camera or an apartment building camera, depending on which version of the story you read. And the taps were seized by FBI and not released to the media, nor excerpts or still frames shown to the public to prove.

46:47 any of those allegations. So we know all of this stuff, but trust us, we're not going to show it to you. Discrepancies began to develop in the official version of the scenario. And within weeks, the matter became extremely controversial in non-stream, non-mainstream media, such as the internet, newsletters, independent radio shows, blah, blah, blah.

47:12 It was at this point that this investigator, meaning the author, began attempting to assemble the pieces of a puzzle into a logical pattern. Only by taking all of the information available, filtering out what definitely does not belong, then piecing the mosaic together can one draw a picture, albeit incomplete, of what may have happened. The remainder of this document is written utilizing

47:38 The sources, some of unknown reliability, but many extremely reliable and contacts within and without the government. Assuming that there was a conspiracy involved and that McVeigh and Nichols could not physically by themselves do all of that.

47:57 that had to be done in the time constraints of their activities from the time of the truck rental to the time of the explosion, there would have to be others involved. It would appear from the information presented on the following pages that McVeigh and Nichols may be only two members of a field team compartmentalized and organized in structured levels. If this is the case,

48:22 The following information is even partially correct. The investigation is far from over. And it goes much higher than McVeigh and Nichols, which is likely the case. His next section is labeled Investigatory Techniques. What follows is an investigative report utilizing standard follow the money, follow the power, follow the players, look for linkage, consistency, patterns.

48:55 and coincidences and discrepancies that obviously create problems for the synopsis. Look for an attempt to establish a motive. Determine who had the means to plan, conduct, and execute the crime. Then have the power and possibly the influence to cover up the investigation.

49:22 He describes the scene as follows. Shortly after the explosion, several events occurred almost simultaneously. As emergency services responded, two other bombs were discovered by investigators and the bomb technicians responded. The first bomb was discovered within minutes after the explosion as emergency workers began searching the interior of the building for victims and survivors. And the second within 20 minutes of the first.

49:50 One was deactivated on site. The status of the second device was not broadcast over television. Both were described as military canisters or devices. Later explanation would be that these were quote-unquote training devices left by the ATF.

50:11 This explanation did not satisfactorily explain why they were in different spots in the building far from the ATF offices located on the top floor. Eventually, government media releases would claim that there was no additional devices found despite numerous eyewitnesses. And anytime they change the story, you know that that's part of the cover-up.

50:41 Within a very short period of time, it was announced that there had been a car bomb, possibly filled with an ammonium nitrate fuel oil explosive mixture, but damage to the building coupled with the size of the crater and secondary damage to surrounding structures increased the explosive to truck bomb size. Throughout the morning and into the afternoon, the truck grew in size.

51:13 Isn't that weird? It doesn't even exist now, but it's growing. It went from a 14-foot truck to a 28-foot truck. The explosives grew from 1,200 pounds to 2,400 pounds, then to 3,200 and eventually to 4,600. What? What is disturbing about this is that in 1985, the IRA in London exploded a large lorry.

51:44 filled with 5,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate, fuel oil explosives in front of a much older, non-reinforced structure, stacked block, bank building, and the reluctant and the resultant damage was simply front windows being blown out and a very small crater in the streets. So what? You have a...

52:14 Much smaller bomb and it did a much bigger bunch of damage? Yeah. Within three hours, a fireman on the third floor of the building noted two military box ambulances unmarked back up near the building. Two military ambulances.

52:53 not people. So they were excavating documents and one had what would be described as some type of shoulder fired missiles. SAM missiles in the Murrah building? Hell, you mean the ones that are missing? What? They had a weapons cache in the Murrah building?

53:27 Many witnesses stated that they had heard two or three distinct explosions. The second more powerful than the first. To back this up, two seismograms which recorded the event showed three, not two, as reported by the media. Distinct markings of equal intensity and duration approximately 10 seconds apart from two separate locations.

53:54 A later explanation for this would be that the first event actually circled was the second event and that the second was the building collapsing because a building collapse would be on a seismic meter. Later charts recorded when the building was demolished refuted this. The remainder of the building, much larger than the part that was destroyed,

54:26 never registered on a seismic craft. So you can bring the whole building down and it's not gonna show it, but the bomb registers. Another register, supposedly the building falling. But a few weeks later or whenever the months later, the entire building coming down doesn't register at all.

54:51 A videotape was reportedly discovered that showed the front of the building before the explosion, then the truck driving up, then the explosion. The truck was identified as a Yellow Rider truck. The first press release explained that the tape came from a nearby ATM machine, even though no ATM machine is in the area. Okay. A separate press release was that it was from a Southwestern.

55:21 bell security camera a later report is that it was from a security camera atop a nearby apartment complex to the west the tape wherever it came from was seized and has not been shown to the media or general public which initiated many people to speculate that it either didn't exist at all or that it did not portray what the media was reporting

55:48 This investigator, meaning the author, also found it incredible that this same tape was not shown to the grand jury that was formed to indict McVeigh, even after they requested it. I thought you had to share that material. Evidently not.

56:12 Witnesses described two Middle Eastern males wearing blue jogging suits hanging around the front of the building just before the explosion. These descriptions initiated the terrorist hunt that culminated in the apprehension of the guy in London. Some witnesses described seeing a dark colored unmarked helicopter leaving the rooftop of the building a few minutes before the explosions. That's weird. Didn't we have...

56:38 blacked out helicopters at Waco? Yes, yes, we did. Oklahoma City Police Department has two McDonnell Douglas helicopters, black and silver in color, were on the ground at their base at the time. They did not respond until after the explosion. The origins of this helicopter is unknown, nor are there indications that this lead was followed up on. Yeah.

57:08 Just ignore it. The only identifiable part of the Ryder truck discovered was the rear axle, which instead of being blown down into the crater, was thrown two blocks away. Okay, this axle originally identified as a GM part with a VIN number was traced through Ryder in Florida to a truck rental body shop in Kansas.

57:39 However, when GM stated that there was no ID numbers on their truck axles, the truck was changed to a Ford. Oh God, this up. Okay, yeah, well, that's nice that you got a VIN number off of that, but we don't put them on there. Okay, well, it's not your truck. I'm sorry. This has gone from stupid to ridiculous. Other conflicts arose by the hour as other discrepancies occurred.

58:15 As federal authorities switched tracks from Islamic to right-wing radicals. Whole nother group of people we're going to blame. Eeny, meeny, miny, moe. That began the trace to McVeigh's movements and associates. Outside organizations entered the picture and began to point fingers at political rivals and enemies.

58:42 The ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center immediately began feeding New York City-based media organizations, including major news networks, information, identifying various right-wing groups as hate groups capable of inflaming such activities, and indeed linked them to the event. So the SPLC is doing the FBI's job for them.

59:14 Both organizations historically take every opportunity to lump conservative organizations into the same group. They lump the Aryan resistance to Christian coalitions, to the KKK, to the NRA. It's all those white people. As each news program and news

59:37 interview transpired. The public began to notice more and more of the dialogue appeared to be orchestrated and that the political agenda were being used, but only on the left wing. This made many people suspect that the government was somehow involved and basically creating a propaganda campaign. The problem at this point is that the definition of government

1:00:06 Anyone who suspects involvement by any government agent or agency, whether directly involved or involved by omission or failure, to properly perform an investigation becomes debunked or a conspiracy theory. The problem with this, like lumping all right-wing groups together, is that a conspiracy in this case does exist with only the extent unknown. The extent to which the government is involved is unknown.

1:00:36 Therefore, it isn't a theory at all. It's a conspiracy. The issue then becomes exactly who was involved and why. To answer this and other questions, the search must follow the previously listed tenets of a proper investigation. Follow the money, the power, the players requires a great deal of research into past political events where the same name seemed to appear linking events. Kind of like what we've been doing for the last four years.

1:01:05 Though some of the followers does not appear at first to relate to the Oklahoma bombing, the reader must keep the information in mind as this report progresses to gain a full understanding of the ramifications and the possibilities of the event. For this, the author has discovered the relevant events leading up to the Oklahoma City bombing.

1:01:28 actually appear to have begun in the 1980s. And that's where we're going to stop today. We will pick up here tomorrow. You guys are going to love it. I know. I always love it when we touch on Waco. Yep. You know, I got a question. Because in every scenario, when we did Waco, when we saw the Ruby Ridge thing, when we saw...

1:01:59 Not so much Ruby Ridge, but Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing and 9-11 and so many others. When you look past the news narrative and actually get down to the eyewitness reports, it becomes so glaringly obvious of what actually happened compared to what the news reported. Correct.

1:02:33 Did they really think, is it that they think we are just so stupid that we will never find out, or they will never be held accountable, or is it a matter of they, you know, I mean, because in, like, well, like this, the Timothy McVeigh thing, I mean, it's just over and over and over, so glaringly obvious when...

1:03:01 It's like, oh, it was a Middle Eastern man in the truck. No, no, wait, it was a van. It was two guys. No, wait, there was just one guy. Yeah, that's right. And it's like, what? I mean, so plan a better deal in in my backyard. No drunk with a couple of dozen Hoosiers. You know what I'm saying? But you missed the whole purpose of this. The whole purpose is it's if you.

1:03:30 look at whatever the event is going to be. And then the immediate follow-up, you have to look at it as a figurative bomb of misinformation. So they not only created, in this case, an actual bombing, but the immediate aftermath is an information bomb.

1:03:57 It is to send everybody off in 30 different directions like an actual bomb explosion of disinformation. And while everybody is scurrying to find all of those pieces of the information bomb and they're all busy doing all of that legwork, the actual accomplices that orchestrated the whole thing walk away.

1:04:26 So you are going to then be subject to the corralling of those various pieces into a consolidated misinformation pipeline. And you're then going to be pushed down that pipeline by a force that is unlike anything you've ever seen.

1:04:54 stuffing a bunch of shit into a PVC pipe and then putting the air on it. And then it all blows in that direction. And so that's the whole misinformation bomb that goes off in the immediate aftermath, all of the various lies. And then they cram that all into a pipeline to drive the pressure regulator of the pushing of that information through that pipe to their final destination.

1:05:23 There's no way to get out of the pipe. And anybody that gets out of the pipe gets killed. If you actually stumble onto the actual real information, you're going to die because they can't afford for the mainstream media push and pressure to their already designated destination final.

1:05:50 to include the court system, the prosecutors, everything's lined up. This is a done deal before the bomb ever went off. So you don't have a choice. And in the very few instances where somebody does come forward with uncompromised integrity about the real story,

1:06:18 they conveniently die. And we've seen this over and over again. No, I either have this proof or whatever, then you just conveniently are not around anymore. Or you get your family, just like the guy shows up at the hotel with a wad of money and basically says, hey, forget seeing that missile, because if you don't, you're probably going to be missing a kid or two.

1:06:49 Right. So, right. Yeah. The whole thing is so orchestrated from the get go. It's it's crazy. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. And thank everybody for attending here on YouTube Rumbling Spaces. I'm sitting here thinking about this and what's going on.

1:07:16 And you're absolutely right about the amount of crap that's pushed down for people to believe in the way that you want them to believe. That I can understand. We didn't get this kind of information that really happened during that time because we didn't have the Internet at full force. Now that we have the Internet at full force, things are much different.

1:07:47 I think that you'll see, or at least those people who are awake will see what's really going on. And it just blows my mind that somebody can say one thing and then you come to find out that, gee, that blast could have never created the crater it did. I didn't pay attention to it. I wasn't paying attention to it.

1:08:18 when it happened simply because, okay, it happened. I'm getting on with my life. Now it's a different story. Now we don't believe anything they say. And that's the blowback of having had so many. And that's the other point to Bridget's comment. So it is normally give or take 20 to 30 years.

1:08:45 either before things are declassified or enough people of them have died, not us, that people feel safe to make a comment or two. And so putting the pieces together takes an inordinate amount of time because there's so few of us and there's so many of them and you're attacked.

1:09:14 So most people don't want to stand up and do, obviously, what this author has done. And so if you get far enough away from the event, you've now went past the statute of limitations in some cases based on the event. And the people will, you know, the notorious, oh, that's been debunked or whatever.

1:09:43 comments or that's so far in the past, why are you even paying attention to it or whatever? I mean, we've heard all of that when we do these history lessons. But the key to all of that is putting your head down and moving forward because it is, in my opinion, it is only through looking back at all of these events with new information that we are able to head off.

1:10:10 the ones that are happening around us every day that we can debunk within 24 hours. And I think you're living through that. I mean, the Charlie Kirk assassination, the shooting of Trump, where everybody immediately, nobody believes the government at all on anything. And so you are now seeing

1:10:31 the blowback of decades and decades of the government lying to us and us finding out in the aftermath way too late that now everybody is from Missouri. You got to show me. And as you see, they can't show you anything. They never do show you anything. They were just talking on X Today about the fact that they have

1:10:56 no independent verification of any of the videos that they were showing because they were taking off of the little chip thing, the SD card, and then put into other forums that all can be altered. So I think gone are the days of them being able to hide this shit. And glory to God for that. But we've also turned a corner after COVID that

1:11:25 Literally, anybody that has two brain cells active in their brain that's actually working together, we just don't believe the government on anything. So sex to be them now. They've broken the paradigm of us all blindly believing our government and not understanding the depth of depravity of...

1:11:58 what some of the people, not the entire government, what a lot of people in our government are capable of doing to their fellow citizens and fellow humans around the world. So yeah, the internet's gonna break them because we're now in control and not them. Okay, that's it for today. I love Donnie Vision.

1:12:29 When I said we were done for the day, she says, oh my God, a cliffhanger. Yeah, sorry about that. We could be on this for like two hours. There's quite a bit to this chapter as a matter of fact, only because he was personally involved in it. And I don't wanna do it a disservice. There's no way to summarize it. So we're gonna cover it pretty by the book because...

1:12:52 everything that he says he personally experienced. And it's very, very important. And it's probably one of the best sources of the Oklahoma events that I've come across. So we're going to do it. We're going to give it its own justice in covering every bit of it. It may take the next two shows, but I don't want to cut anything out because it's all very important. Okay, so.

1:13:21 We will be back tomorrow. Now, let me look at my schedule. We are going to be traveling. Yeah, we're definitely back tomorrow. I may or may not be doing a show on Thursday because we are traveling to Savannah. And then we will be traveling on Friday as well.

1:13:51 I'm going to have to figure out the rest of the schedule as far as that goes. So just hang with me. We'll be back on our regular schedule next week. I will be back home. So I appreciate you guys hanging in there as I travel around. But anyway, we will see you tomorrow at four. Take care, everybody.

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Anti-Defamation League funded Southern Poverty Law Center host_asserted ▶ 41:21

“Southern Poverty Law Center. What? The Southern Poverty Law Center was involved in creating the psyops around the Oklahoma bombing? Huh. Color me shocked. They were reportedly connected to the ADL. It…”

Timothy McVeigh carried_out_attack Oklahoma City bombing host_asserted ▶ 44:10

“As the investigation continued, utilizing massive resources from local, state, and federal law enforcement, plus independent investigators and investigative journalists, many discrepancies began to ap…”

Timothy McVeigh recruited Michael Fortier host_asserted ▶ 44:40

“from his target list to other federal buildings in other cities, then proceeded to recruit Fortier and Timothy Nichols to assist in the preparations, allegedly using funds obtained by selling guns in …”

Timothy McVeigh recruited Terry Nichols host_asserted ▶ 44:40

Anti-Defamation League covered_up Oklahoma City bombing host_asserted ▶ 58:42

“The ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center immediately began feeding New York City-based media organizations, including major news networks, information, identifying various right-wing groups as hate…”

Southern Poverty Law Center covered_up Oklahoma City bombing host_asserted ▶ 58:42