The Colonel's Corner The Medusa Files Part 16

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0:00 Hello, everybody. We're waiting for the X Spaces people to get in. And yes, I just got back from the lake. And there's a storm coming in. So we may or may not get through the show today. But we're going to at least give it the old college try. I have been hanging out with one of the coolest guys that...

0:36 I ever met while I was on active duty and have enjoyed last night with him and his wife and a Canadian friend of theirs by the name of Bam Bam. Don't know where he got the nickname, but he's a pilot as well and they all have them. And we have had a wonderful stay here. We are just east of Knoxville, Tennessee in God's country.

1:06 This entire area is amazingly beautiful. Rolling hills, mountains, the view from their back porch is amazing. And of course, he's a fighter pilot. So he has to have a fighter bar in his house, which is amazing because he did amazing things while he was on active duty. So we've been thoroughly enjoying ourselves. He came over to the state park.

1:36 We were staying and picked us up in his boat. And we were swimming in what we've now nicknamed Emerald Bay. It was absolutely beautiful. And I learned something new. A local brewery in Knoxville, you guys aren't even going to believe this, makes a beer called PBJ beer. And yes, it stands for peanut butter and jelly.

2:07 beer. And not only does it taste like peanut butter and jelly, you can actually taste the bread in the PBJ bread or beer. It's crazy. It's probably other than Lost Coast Brewery's strawberry beer, the best beer I've ever had in my life. I don't drink beer because I don't like beer.

2:35 And I drank the entire game. I was gonna share it with my husband. It was the last one they had, but I didn't share. It was so good. I did let him taste it though. So anyway, awesome, awesome, awesome vacation. All right, we're gonna dig into chapter 29. Fire on the water, TWA 800. We're on page 283 for those of you following along.

3:07 home. It starts off with a controller working at departure control at JFK International. First saw it on the radar, something that was not supposed to be there, not an aircraft. It was a blip that was near the 747 TWA flight that had just taken off. He didn't know what it was. It was now

3:40 climbing towards the aircraft. The controller examined the scope, wondering if there was another aircraft in the area that posed a problem for the TWA jet. It was the other indicator was not squawking anything. It was not communicating nothing. It was just a blip on the radar. Then before any more analysis could take place, the FAA

4:12 Control room was aghast because something happened to the TWA Flight 800. Coastal area residents near Long Island first noticed something in the sky when there was a sound that some described as a fireworks. Looking up, many noticed there was a small glowing ball of reddish orange light.

4:46 rising up over the ocean. Clear examination showed that it was possibly an aircraft. As they watched this small glow, it became engulfed as a fireball. Curiosity began to spread rapidly and then shock among everyone. As it burst into flames,

5:20 and hit the ocean. Many couldn't believe what they saw had just happened. But there was a lake of fire that was floating on the surface of the water. Hundreds of witnesses along the shoreline and in boats later reported what they had seen. One fisherman recalled that he had looked up at what started off as a little ball, like a flare.

5:51 It came down for a few seconds and then all of a sudden burst into flames. Another unidentified man was quoted as saying, quote, saw a big fireball with pieces coming off of it. I heard two big explosions, like two big firecrackers going off, unquote. A New York National Guard colonel happened to be flying along in a C-130. He caught.

6:22 the 747 just after the second explosion. He reported what he witnessed, two large orange fireballs. They looked like comets. An unidentified woman interviewed by reporters, quote, there was a loud explosion, which was followed by a fireball. The plane literally dropped out of the sky and hit the ocean, sort of like a space shuttle Challenger did. Vic Vayner, a

6:55 Fisherman said it started off like a little ball, like a flare. It came down in a few seconds in a burst of flames. Jason Fontana, who had been standing at the Scott, John Scott's Raw Bar in West Hampton Beach, said it was a big fireball with pieces coming off of it like an explosion. Craig was surfing when the plane blew up. I looked up and I saw a trail of fire. It just.

7:27 disappeared, and then an explosion. Elaine Daly, a local resident, summed up what many saw. My first reaction is fireworks. Then, oh my God, it's a plane. Almost immediately, boats began racing towards the impact area, which was easily marked because it was a lake of fire. Residents raced to their telephone to call 911, the Coast Guard, etc., asking for help.

8:00 Among the first of hundreds of rescue craft, airplanes, ships, and helicopters that reached the site was a U.S. Coast Guard plane practicing search and rescue operations nearby, whose pilot witnessed the horrific crash and immediately circled the area to identify the wreckage. Two other aircraft quickly joined the search as the Air National Guard C-130 that had been conducting

8:27 A flare dropping exercise nearby. And ostensibly was the same C-130 whose crew later made statements. A U.S. Navy P-3 Orion sub hunter who reportedly heard the radio traffic regarding the explosion also offered assistance. Rescue craft began arriving immediately consisting mainly of boaters of local residents. Fishermen.

8:58 and Coast Guard cutters. The media report said six Coast Guard helicopters and cutters joined the search and rescue. By the next morning, July 18th, 73 bodies had been pulled out of the water. Unlike KAL 007, where no bodies was recovered, many were found floating in the area, none of which wore a life jacket. Many of the bodies had been badly

9:30 burned, some beyond recognition. One private boat had arrived early on the scene among the debris, saw a TWA life vest inflated and buckled, but no body. According to Jimmy Vaccaro, who hooked the empty jacket into his boat, it was inflated and buckled, which was odd. These things don't light and inflate themselves.

10:01 Who pulled the cord to blow the life jacket up? The reference to a light may have been a strobe light attached to the vest that had been activated. Thus, discovery lended credence to an observation of some of the passengers that had time to reach for life jacket. Some of the later propositions about the crash was that some

10:32 passengers had time to reach but not enough time to put them on individual inflated the life jacket before putting it on the coast guard said none of the bodies recovered had life preservers on suggesting that the explosion came without warning as fishermen and local residents helped recover the bodies of the victims a temporary morgue was set up as

11:03 This was being accomplished. Local officials cautioned residents to report any wreckage or bodies washing ashore, but not to touch anything that may serve as evidence. Of note regarding the wreckage that was being found along the beach was a special notification from federal officials on the 18th that if anyone came upon any boxes on the beach, not to open or tamper them because they may.

11:40 B, AIDS infected blood. Apparently, there were two boxes that were placed aboard the aircraft of AIDS infected blood. They were unaccounted for. No one in the media seemed to ask why anyone would be shipping AIDS infected blood anywhere. Nor was this event ever followed up on.

12:13 in subsequent media reports. In fact, only a short mention was made in the media when CNN aired the statement of a pool reporter who was aboard a Coast Guard 33-foot rescue boat who said that the boat crew retrieved several State Department pouches and seven packages that were labeled HIV-infected blood with the label biohazard.

12:43 on them. There was also instructions on how to use the blood to infect children on the packages that they picked up, though these alleged instructions were not displayed on camera. It should be noted that one of the victims on the flight was the son of the president of the French pharmaceutical firm M-E-R-I-C-U.

13:16 who is one of the leading researchers of AIDS at the time. It was also pertinent to note that this same firm had earlier been accused of desiring to use unwilling humans for test subjects, including military personnel, to use them as guinea pigs for a vaccine experiment.

13:51 None of this, even though reported, triggered follow-up questions of the national media. Almost immediately, a media frenzy ensued concerning the cause of the explosion. Major networks scurried about to get interviews of primarily government-funded think tanks and terrorism experts.

14:26 James Donahue, editor-in-chief of Air Transport Magazine, who said, quote, it's got the hallmarks of a bombing. That sounds so CIA-ish now, doesn't it? But he goes on to say it could be anything. Of the number of 747s that have descended in flames, the vast majority had been a result of bombs, according to him. Michael Barr, director of aviation safety at USC.

15:02 spoke about mechanical failure. Airplanes don't just blow up. I've been following the 747 since the 1970s. I've never seen anything like this, he said. Robert McGuire, president of Kroll, C-R-O-L-L Associates in New York, Kroll, the front for the CIA, who obviously has not heard the eyewitness statements regarding the small glow that preceded

15:39 The explosion said this, quote, the nature of the incident appears to be a traumatic explosion. This is the CIA laundered talking point. There were no reports of burning engines, smoke, or the normal stuff that happens when aircrafts have mechanical failures. Because if a mechanical failure happens, normally the pilots have enough.

16:08 a few seconds to radio the tower, hey, we got mechanical problems. Hey, I'm losing altitude. Hey, I lost an engine, something, none of that. He goes on to say, because there was no transmission back to the tower, there seems to have been an immediate and overwhelming trauma. Yeah, there does seem to be that, which doesn't normally happen even when you lose an engine in an explosion.

16:42 Philip Stern, the managing director of Fairfax Group, hinting he suspected terrorism, mentioned that the original departure point of Athens, so the aircraft flew from Athens to New York and had just departed New York. And Athens is notorious for all of these crazy people. So maybe it happened there.

17:14 Kupperman, senior advisor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, another CIA front, and a well-known terrorist expert, said that he noted several pieces of evidence that made him believe that this was a terrorist bombing. So the CIA is definitely telling you it's a terrorist bombing. He said the signs indicating the terrorist incident were

17:41 All of the eyewitness describing a fireball and subsequent explosion. It was a U.S. aircraft en route to Europe. Terrorists in late June attacked a U.S. military facility in Saudi Arabia and the Summer Olympic Games were starting two days later in Atlanta. So somehow that made it definitely a terrorist act. Jack Barker, a retired FAA spokesman, said that it was quite likely a bomb.

18:12 But you don't want to speculate about what has happened until the NTSB and the FBI has made their investigation. But it certainly is reminiscent of what? Yes, the Lockerbie bomb. The explosion in the air, the fire, there had to be some kind of ignition in the air. And that could be caused by only a few things. A bomb being on board would be one of them.

18:43 The other had already been ruled out by the FAAC collision with another aircraft. Aside from those two things, for anything else to have caused an explosion would be very, very rare. You know, like a missile. That would be very rare. Amazingly, two spokespeople for the TWA 800 disaster were the same experts that handled Pan Am 103.

19:16 So what? Yes, yes. Oliver Revell, FBI, and Vincent Panastrano, CIA, were the exact two same spokespeople for TWA 800 that were the spokespeople for Lockerbie. What's the chances of that?

19:49 Buck Revell told the press that such a jet had never been destroyed in air by an explosion. That was not sabotage. Mr. CIA Conestrano said that if it was a bomb, this is another notch of the ladder of terrorism. In the past year, domestic aviation security has been tightened security because he said that terrorists.

20:19 have never blown up an airliner with a bomb planted in the U.S. The government spokesmen were being much more cautious about jumping to conclusions. However, the White House spokesperson, Mike McCurry, and others, including President Clinton, refused to comment on whether they felt it was a terrorist attack. But behind the scenes, it appeared that other lines of communication between government agencies were being developed.

20:53 and a different message was being sent. There appeared to be a drastic discrepancy between many eyewitnesses and what the government, especially the FBI, was saying about the aircraft. Early on, many witnesses stated that they saw something that appeared to them to be a flare or a streak of light rising up to the jet.

21:21 Variations of these sightings matched what the FAA radar controllers saw at JFK, departure control. And also was the exact same story the three C-130 crew members said happened. But the FBI and other federal agencies, up to and including the White House, they're not ruling out the possibility.

21:54 Of a missile attack. Consistently attempted. To debunk any reference. Of a surface to air missile. As a viable cause. Of the explosion. Jim. Morrow. Mentioned about the three possibilities. A bomb. A mechanical malfunction. Or a missile. With a mechanical malfunction. The missile theory.

22:26 universe of potential causes. The special agent in charge of the New York office of the FBI was James Hallstrom. He was not quite as dismissing. He appeared to be when he told the media that, quote, widespread attention being given to the crash may make many eyewitness reports.

22:59 related to the missile theory suspect, unquote. He conceded, however, that similar accounts reported by numerous citizens of the events of Things in the Sky meant the missile theory could not be discarded. Then, a mysterious unnamed Pentagon official offered this mass consumption when the subject of shoulder-launched missiles, such as Stinger missiles, might be the culprit.

23:29 Quote, there is no way a stringer or a stinger, sorry, or other handheld shoulder fired missiles could take down a 747. And a stinger does not have the range to hit TWA 800 at the altitude that it was at. Unquote. Sounds pretty official. This same spokesman went on to state unequivocally that the plane could not have been.

23:59 a fuel explosion because it was fueled with JP-8. This means the spokesman was a Navy man because only Navy used JP-8. Carriers, they used that on carriers because of its flashpoint. Two things immediately discredit this source. First, TW-800 was well within the range of a Stinger missile.

24:30 The airplane was also fueled with Jet A fuel, which was the official commercial jet fuel of all civilian aircraft. When this information was brought to the attention of the FBI Kallstrom's office by the guy that wrote this book, no more was heard from this unnamed Pentagon source.

25:01 because he was full of shit. By day three, it became evident that there were three powers at work fighting over the TWA 800 narrative. First, it became apparent that the NTSB spokesman, Robert Francis, was trying to walk a noncommittal line between the FBI, TWA, Pratt Whitney, the engine builder, and Boeing Aircraft, who built the aircraft.

25:32 He had, by then, hunkered down to weather out the storm. He kept announcing, we are moving slowly forward. It's just too early to tell. The FBI and the Anti-Terrorism Task Force, however, reminded reporters that though they were not officially taking over the investigation, they were watching for evidence of bombing or terrorist involvement. At the time, according to Hallstrom,

26:03 They would assume responsibility of the investigation and it would take a new course if they could confirm terrorism was involved. Pence over the next week leaned towards nudging the public mind towards acceptance of a probable bomb on board. TWA, however, did not want the outcome to point to a bomb as that would open the company up for lawsuits by relatives of the victims who would blame lax.

26:33 airport security. Boeing aircraft didn't want the investigation to point fingers at a aircraft design flaw because then they would assume responsibility. In all, it appeared that everyone was choosing sides and going to their corners to await the outcome of the investigation wreckage that was in the process of being gathered by the USS

27:07 The odd man out in all of this was the missile theory. A shoot down by a terrorist at sea using a surface to air missile would have TWA Boeing and Pratt Whitney out of any subsequent lawsuit. It would not, however, let the government out. This idea that someone high in government was becoming very nervous about the possibility of a missile strike.

27:36 became increasingly evident as the investigation continued. Witnesses were discovered and interviewed. The FBI located and questioned hundreds of local residents to find out what they had witnessed, but they evidently did not like what they were hearing. For as they found witnesses who reopened aerial objects striking the aircraft or smoke plumes,

28:06 flares fireworks or strange lights in the sky the agents immediately began intimidating them by telling them that they could not have seen what they saw huh they told them that none of them knew what a missile looked like they couldn't possibly have seen a missile because you don't know what they look like they were told that they saw a falling debris

28:46 and not something coming up. So the FBI agents interrogating these people are saying something was coming down, even though you saw something going up. Okay. To many of these witnesses, it appeared the FBI had orders to make the incident a bomb, if possible, and debunk any missile story, no matter what evidence or what the witness said.

29:22 This falls in line with what the FBI and Justice Department did after the Oklahoma bombing a year earlier when they dropped the search of John Doe number two within a few weeks of the event. They then intimidated every witness who reported anything about the guy with McVeigh. These included eyewitness sightings at the truck rental agency in Kansas.

29:50 In the Ryder truck with McVeigh in Oklahoma City, when he stopped to ask for directions, which, you know, everybody does. It's going to blow up a building. You stop and ask for directions. And when people, when they were getting out of the truck with McVeigh after parking in front of the building, the FBI then told the press seeing John Doe number two was just a case of mass hysteria. You didn't see what you saw. Two witnesses.

30:29 could not be intimidated. A husband and wife who asked to remain anonymous wrote a letter to the editor of a major newspaper. This is what the letter said. Dear editor, I witnessed the crash of TWA Flight 800. I work in a county office in California. My wife and I were on vacation in New York. We were on the beach when it happened. We talked to many other witnesses who saw the same thing as we did.

30:59 a very bright, fiery light heading toward the aircraft, then an explosion. We told what we had seen to investigators. We told them that we were on vacation and about to continue to Florida. They asked us to stay a while longer and said that they would pay for our hotel until our statements were gathered. We agreed.

31:27 It turned out, however, to be more than just our statements taken. They took our social security numbers, our driver's license, and license plate numbers. They wanted to know my place of employment and the names and addresses of our children and relatives. They questioned us in separate rooms and made us feel like criminals. They said what we must have seen was a shooting star.

31:56 or fireworks. I told them it was definitely a flare-type rocket heading towards the aircraft. Then it exploded. It was then suggested that we did not see anything at all, that we were going along with other people, just part of the excitement. I told them, no way, I know what I saw. After the questioning, we were asked to go back to the hotel and stay there.

32:29 until we were cleared to leave. About three hours later, two men we had not seen before came to the hotel. They gave us money and told us never to mention anything to anyone about being witnesses to the crash. They scared the hell out of us. It was a lot of money and we accepted it out of fear. If it was a missile that brought down the jet, then I could understand.

32:57 that they would not want people to panic. But the way they were handling it was shocking and inexcusable. My wife and I are outraged and we want people to know how we were treated. This letter is not signed because of my concern for ourselves and our family. In an article published on August 25th, 1996, edition of the Austin American Statesman.

33:30 three paragraphs stood out. Quote, in addition, the notion that Stinger missiles from Afghanistan might have made their way into the U.S. was a longstanding assumption within law enforcement circles. The presence on the crash scene of officials with the National Security Agency and DIA reinforced in our minds.

33:58 that there might have been an intercepted intelligence regarding a missile attack. On the same day, the Times of London reported, U.S. officials are investigating reports that Islamic terrorists have smuggled Stinger missiles into the U.S. from Pakistan. Those are our missiles. Senior Iranian sources close to the fundamentalist regime in Tehran

34:26 claimed this weekend that TWA Flight 800 was shot down last month by one of those shoulder-fired stingers of the type used by Afghanistan that we sold them. The sources said the missile arrived in America seven months ago after being shipped from Karachi via Rotterdam, Netherlands, and onto a Canadian port in Halifax.

34:58 They claim an Egyptian fundamentalist group backed by Iran was responsible for smuggling the weapons across the Canadian border and into the U.S. The article went on to identify that group as Gamma al-Islamiyah, the same group that attempted to blow up the World Trade Center under Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman.

35:27 This same group allegedly notified the White House that they had shot down the plane and even provided a serial number for the missile used. This last information has not been confirmed. The bottom line is that the vast majority of witness statements support the missile contention. Federal agents have been attempting to silence the witnesses and the fact that a Stinger missile might have been smuggled into the country.

36:00 was also trying to be silenced. In the weeks that followed the crash, a great deal of wreckage was recovered by Navy divers. The shredded aluminum and other bits of pieces, including three engines, were transported to an empty Grauman Aircraft Company hangar in Calverton. There, the wreckage was being examined and reassembled.

36:26 Though most of the damage appeared to come from the center of the aircraft, somewhere around the center fuel tank and behind the forward baggage compartment, virtually no chemical residue of explosions were detected, according to the investigators. There was some evidence of explosive chemicals on the wreckage.

36:54 but from various locations that included the wings, wing tips and rear fuselage area. This would not be indicative of a bomb in the cabin or the baggage compartment. It would, however, be indicative of something that was the result of a missile hit, which then began the disintegration and the burning of the wings and fuselage.

37:25 especially since the chemicals that were identified also matched those used in military explosives, including warheads. For the divers aboard the grapple, it was a tough going. Though the wreckage lay on the ocean floor only 120 feet down, it was scattered almost three miles wide. The water was murky and dark, making it extremely dangerous to navigate.

37:58 On top of this, local shark population had sensed the bodies and continued to school in the areas that the divers were trying to work in. Eventually, the crash site became known as Mako City. Mako, of course, is the name of a shark. The debris fields were mainly divided into two areas of concern. The nose and forward section of the fuselage, which broke loose and fell.

38:30 First, in the main fuselage area, wings and tail section, which appeared to fly for several seconds after the aircraft had been decapitated. As the divers worked and the debris began to arrive on shore, the investigators on land busied themselves assembling the pieces like they were putting a puzzle together. The Joint Task Force, consisting of FBI Counterterrorism Task Force and the New York Police Department,

39:01 along with the NTSB, appeared in the news watchers to be working like a team. In reality, behind the scenes, it was very obvious that there was pressure coming down from Washington for federal agents to cover up what really happened. And they could not be anything that came out of any of the investigation that related to a missile.

39:31 Why would the government not want the truth to come out? Why not warn the flying public? Could it really have been a missile? To understand some of the past historical events that may have a bearing on the loss of TWA-800, you have to dig back into a series of events that occurred in the 1980s regarding the loss of several shoulder-fired Stinger missiles.

40:02 During the Afghan-Russian war, the CIA, in support of the Mujahideen guerrillas, smuggled hundreds, hundreds of Stinger missiles into Afghanistan to counter the Russian MiG and helicopter gunships. The missiles were so effective that they were credited for ending the war. At the end of the war, a few hundred Stingers were left over and were offered back to the U.S. government.

40:31 But for some reason, the U.S. government decided to leave them in the hands of the CIA-controlled Mujahideen. The missiles were eventually taken to Islamabad, Pakistan, and put on the open market. Most were bought by Israeli arms dealers and resold at a profit to Iranians for the use.

41:03 against Iraqis. The Iraqi Air Force seldom flew, however, leaving many missiles in Iranian inventory during the border war. Reportedly, these stingers eventually found their ways into the hands of various terrorist groups. Discounting this information, other stingers remain on sale by Afghanis for $100,000 each.

41:36 a small sum for a terrorist organization who routinely had $1 million contracts per aircraft from different entities. Then he goes on to talk about the Iranian A300 Airbus shoot down by the USS Vincennes. Supposedly, there was a contract issued in the aftermath of that.

42:13 This also matches the story of Pan Am 103 being the first to be destroyed, tracing the bombers back to Syria and not Libya. CIA sources say at least 30 to 40 missiles are in circulation in terrorist ranks, which seems to be a very conservative number. That these missiles were offered to be taken back to the State Department at no charge,

42:47 But the CIA and the Clinton administration refused to take them back for some unknown reason. Investigator Rodney Stitch, receiving the information from a deep cover intelligence source, wrote a letter to Arlen Specter on October 20th, 1995, that this refusal suggested a hidden agenda with possible catastrophic consequences. You think?

43:20 To prove how reliable his information was, the warning even included the serial numbers of some of the missiles, which were provided by one of Stitch's deep cover CIA whistleblowers. The offer to give back the missiles was made by Afghan Mujahideen leader General Rashid Dostram. According to Stitch, the following missiles were raised to be, were issued.

43:51 to the Afghans and found their way back into terrorist activity. And then he lists all the serial numbers that he provided to Arlen Specter. So yes, people in Congress knew this. Did you know this? The Israeli intelligence reported that they received unconfirmed information that 50 stingers entered the US in January of 1995. They attempted to warn US authorities.

44:29 but they said they were ignored. Stingers are not the only shoulder fire surface-to-air missiles available to terrorists. There are Russian-made ones that are available as well, one of which is an SA-7. It was responsible for hitting a jet near Oman at a short range of over six miles. And a British-made Hunter aircraft near Yemen

44:58 was struck at the height of 12,000 feet. During the Vietnam War, there were rocket gunners engaged and destroyed aircraft at altitudes between 11 and 12,000 feet. The Stinger, contrary to what the unnamed Pentagon spokesperson said, was more than capable of reaching the 747 if it was on a boat. Even if the aircraft was in excess of an altitude,

45:31 Of 13,000 feet. According to Athens newspaper. A Greek commercial pilot. Saw just that. Investigative journalist David Hoffman. Editor of the hate. Newsberry free press. Made contact. With the. An Athens man. Named Yanis. I'm not going to try to pronounce his last name. It sounds something like. Barrio Paulus. Who confirmed.

46:02 that the Athens newspaper on August 23, 1996, reported on the front page that a Greek pilot had witnessed the explosion and described what he saw. The pilot was flying a 747 when he observed something come up from the water that to him resembled a rocket. He watched until it struck the airplane. According to the pilot, the same person has already testified three times.

46:31 to agents of the FBI, and to the Greek government. Still, no matter what the witnesses saw or photographed, the government seems intent to call these all debunked stories. The unnamed Pentagon source advised major media, there's no way a Stinger or any other handheld shoulder missile could take down a 747.

47:02 which now apparently is a bold-faced lie. And not only is that a provable lie, the Pentagon knew damn good and well there were Stinger missiles floating around the world. Okay, so what happened to TWA 800? Apparently, it does look like that it was possible a missile strike hit an inboard missile.

47:45 such as number three, the multi-engine aircrafts are numbered from left to right. The outermost left engine is number one, blah, blah, blah. In the case of TWA 800, engine one and two and four were raised fairly early in the search. The last engine described in the first few days as engine parts was not raised until several weeks after the crash.

48:16 The reason is it was left at the bottom supposedly because it had not yet been found and that other parts of the engine had been located. This proved untrue when number three engine was actually brought to the surface by the Navy. To those who knew what they were seeing, number three engine told a dramatic story.

48:44 as it was loaded aboard a flatbed truck to be transported to the reconstruction site. An educated observer could see that there were several discrepancies. First, the fan section in the front of the engine was only about 30% intact. Most of the fan blades were absent. And those that remained, a pie-shaped section on one side of the wheel, were bent.

49:14 As if they contacted the engine intake cowling, the center section of the engine displayed bent and distorted connector rings over the burner can section. And most of the back of the engine was gone. The entire engine appeared to have been burnt. That doesn't happen under the water. The next day, the NTSB announced that all engines were up and none had any problems.

49:49 What? Half your engine's missing and it didn't have any problems? Robert Francis, the NTS spokesperson, was quoted in a London publication as saying the investigators have stripped down all four of the jet engines, but found, according to the safety board vice president, Robert Francis, nothing extraordinary. Just the engine's gone and the fan blades are...

50:21 half missing, and the ones that are still there are destroyed. Nothing special. Then came Linda Cabot. Photo. She was a resident of a local area attending a party near the beach. She took a photo during the event. When the photo was developed, it showed a cylindrical object in the air with one end brightly lit.

51:01 The problem with this photo is that according to Cabot, she used the camera facing north, away from the ocean, which meant the missile in the photo had to come from inland, which might put it out of the range of a shoulder-launched missile, unless it was fired at TWA 800 as...

51:35 TWA 800 was passing by. Whatever case, the photo and negatives were seized immediately by the FBI. The second he told, let's see, that doesn't make any sense. He's going back to the lie that the Pentagon guy said about it couldn't possibly have been a missile. It could bring down such an aircraft if it hit an onboard engine.

52:11 such as the number three, which in turn would catch fire and spew bits and pieces of the engine both into the aircraft and, of course, sever the fuel lines and blah, blah, blah. The burned carcass of number three engine notwithstanding, the investigators still continued to deny the missile scenario. There are many plausible reasons why they would take this stance, according to the author. First,

52:41 No amount of aircraft security could stop such an attack. It could possibly have a giant impact on the flying public. Then, of course, the public would want to know how the terrorists got a hold of a missile. Not only got a hold of one of our missiles that the Clinton administration left after they were offered to have it back, how did it get in the country? How did it get fired? That's a lot of questions.

53:16 If word leaked out that the missiles were offered back to the government and they refused to take them, how would that look in an election year? How would that look, period? As the bombs and mechanical malfunctions aspect of the investigation began to lose credibility due to a lack of evidence of any of that, the missile scenario began to build into an acceptable reality. At about this time,

53:46 another rumor began circulating regarding the possibility of friendly fire from a military ship or aircraft that had been accidentally loosed a missile and it struck it. And if you guys recall, this is very interesting because there was a whole narrative floated that the Navy was testing an unknown classified program and it may be that.

54:15 These statements were quickly countered by very simple and obvious questions. If this is the case, then where did the C-130, two Black Hawk helicopters, the P-3 Orion, and the Navy guided missile carrier come from? The spokesperson was never seen again. So let's float this out there. And then everybody's like, what the hell? Investigative reporter David Hendricks of Riverside, California.

54:50 Press Enterprise queried the Navy regarding the statements that there were no exercises being conducted nor military assets in the vicinity. This was done after he secured a copy of an unclassified message from Fleet Air Control and Surveillance Facilities in Virginia to the FAA in New York. It read, request stationary altitude reservation Tango Billy, which is an level 10.

55:34 for a period of time. The request would take effect about when TWA 800 was taxiing down the runway. The impact zone of the wreckage was reported by AP to be approximately in that area. Hendricks

56:02 received a reply to his August 30th, 1996 letter to the Navy from the Commander Naval Air Atlantic Public Affairs Office. In it, the Navy admitted being in the area. As previously stated, the P-3 Orion submarine patrol aircraft was operating a flight at 10,000 feet, approximately 3,000 feet below the TWA aircraft.

56:33 and some distance away when the incident occurred. The P3 crew heard radio traffic discussing the incident and offered assistance. They reversed course, were vectored to the area and remained there until the Coast Guard got there. The P3 carries no offensive or defensive weapons and would not be capable of doing anything even if they saw it.

57:07 Either this, the previous thing of them saying that there was nothing going on in the area was a lie, or the PA guy didn't know what he was talking about. After all, the Orion is an anti-submarine aircraft. This means it's capable of locating sinking submarines. So you would think they'd have it. And according to research, they have weapons on them.

57:41 Specifically, usually depth mines, not necessarily anything other than that. But according to some configurations, and again, I don't know what aircraft was being flown that night, some of them do have weapons capability. The next statement that the P-3 heard the radio traffic and had to be vectored to the scene is problematic.

58:15 The flames on the area from the crash could be seen from Long Island, and the P-3 would not have been needed to be vectored anywhere. It was visible from where they were at. The Navy also apparently was parenting the FBI and NTSB news releases about the altitude. The Navy letter went on to say, also as previously released, the guided missile cruiser SS Normandy

58:45 was conducting routine operations about 180 miles from the crash. It was not engaged in any weapons firing at the time. As a guided missile cruiser, the Normandy would carry standard radar and air defense missiles. This missile has a range of 93 nautical miles and

59:14 an unclassified altitude of 100,000 feet. The later story that circulated in the press was that on the evening of July 17th, the TWA jet took off for Paris, turned on course over the ocean, and got too close to the exercise being conducted offshore by a joint law enforcement task force of National Guard, Coast Guard, Customs, and DEA.

59:44 They were reportedly practicing how to shoot down drug smuggling aircraft with shoulder-fired missiles and were using flares dropped by the C-130 as targets. A missile was fired and got loose accidentally, locked onto this TWA aircraft and could have shot it down.

1:00:12 This, like many other government explanations regarding this incident, wasn't true. The Secret Service has Stinger missiles that they carry at all times when the protection detail is escorting the president. These missiles are carried in special boxes in the back of Secret Service suburbans. Besides this, agents are stationed on rooftops around the White House with Stingers to protect aircraft over the, to protect.

1:00:42 in case of aircraft over the buildings. One SS agent told the author, when I was flying air cover over the Clinton motorcade, that if we flew too close to the motorcade, we would be shot down by agents with a stinger. He said they always carry them in the back of one of the escort vehicles. He also always carries them in the back of their secret vehicles along with other weapons. Also, there are exercises going on that night.

1:01:11 Because we have statements made by military personnel that were involved in that. The C-130 Air National Guard was dropping flares. The New York Army National Guard Black Hawk crew who saw the explosion, the P-3 Orion crew, the Coast Guard crew were all out there.

1:01:36 It is odd that the Navy spokesman would state that the Normandy was 180 miles away. That is exactly twice the range of the standard missile. This is also almost the exact distance between the TWA crash site and the farthest corner of the exercise box requested by the Navy. In weighing the facts and witness statements, the most likely scenario to explore is that the handheld surface to air missile. This would mean that...

1:02:06 Either somebody friendly or a supposed terrorist did it. The missile scenario was not discounted by all media. According to the Press Enterprise, in an article printed on August 26, 1996, from the beginning, intrigued by eyewitness accounts of something streaking up towards the aircraft just before it exploded. Investigators considered the possibility of a missile attack.

1:02:35 perhaps from a small boat. There has been mounting concerns in intelligence and law enforcement circles that terrorists could have handheld aircraft missiles to attack civilian airliners. A State Department report cataloged 25 incidents between 1978 and 93 in which civilian aircraft were shot down by missiles, killing more than 600 people.

1:03:05 So apparently it's not that rare. Finally, another news source, the International Currency Review, published the following information regarding the tragedy of TWA 800. Quote, a KGB defector has informed us that the TWA aircraft was sabotaged by Russian intelligence. Oh, give me a break. This operation had to be implemented directly rather than via controlled forces apparently separated.

1:03:36 from the global terror apparatus because it was tightly timed to precede the Group of Seven's meeting on security and terrorism, at which it was agreed the G7 countries and Russia would now have access to FBI database information and that a comprehensive exchange of intelligence and cooperation would ensue. Further atrocities will be staged in due course to ratchet up this process.

1:04:06 In fulfillment of some secret. Soviet sub strategy. To exploit terror. Blah blah blah. So then. He goes on to say. While you can't totally discount. Something like that. It does seem far fetched. And. To. Objecting people to terror. Which. He even talks. About the Hegelian principle.

1:04:50 using the terror to gain greater control by the government. He goes on to say that different terrorist groups was at the time of the incident undergoing trial at New York City. Yusuf was trained during the Afghan war and was captured and extradited to the U.S. from Pakistan in 1995. The trial was...

1:05:26 in its eighth week when TWA 800 was shot down. And then he goes through several other organizations that may have had motive all centered around that same timeframe from a terrorist perspective. So you're having terrorist trials in New York. Could it be?

1:05:56 that one of them that bought one of those Stinger missiles shot something down that was leaving from New York City. Totally possible. So the final question becomes, was TWA 800 shot down by a missile, fired by a terrorist, or was it shot down by...

1:06:23 Something that happened within the American government. Either a faulty scenario in a training exercise. What happened? We don't know. And we'll probably never know. And the problem with that is that our government lies to us about everything. And as a result of that, we trust nothing that they say. And that's the problem with all of this. Is because they lie so often, you can't trust a damn thing they say.

1:06:56 That's it. And thankfully, that's the last airline shoot down or crash for the book. We're moving on to a new section because they're really, really depressing. And you really find out when you start digging into them, which we've done before, just how fucking much our government lies to us. It's really awful. So in your opinion, was it an accident or was it intentional? Anybody got anything?

1:07:35 Go ahead, SR. First of all, I want to thank everybody that's on YouTube and everybody on Rumble. Renee. As well as Bessel. You can't hear us, Colonel. Somebody talk. I can hear SR. Can you hear me? Maybe they are talking. Okay. All right. SR, can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Okay, roger that. Okay, I'm back. Let's try it again. Go ahead, Bridget.

1:08:40 Now I can't hear Bridget. I heard SR. Bridget, you're going to have to go back out too. Oh, no. I figured out my mic. I had my headset. That was my bad. I had my headset. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. Now, in your opinion, was it an accident or was it just intentional Hegelian garbage? I don't know. I think either one of those are feasible.

1:09:12 But the bottom line is it was shot down and that never came out. It was 100% shot down. We're supposed to believe that it was a mechanical failure. Something happened. It was 100% shot down. It is, if you look at the military piece of this,

1:09:39 they were having an exercise in that local area. It was proven by the fact that they had cordoned off that airspace to conduct those exercises. Is it possible that just coincidentally, one of the missiles, and if I remember correctly, because I've read a lot about this, they were actually testing a classified new version of a missile as well. And it is possible.

1:10:09 that that missile didn't perform as it was supposed to and locked onto the aircraft and they couldn't do anything about it. So that's all a possibility. Right, but they just lie about it. Yeah, so if that was the case, if we actually had an honest government, they would come out and announce that. They would make restitution to the people. They would apologize for it.

1:10:40 And life would go on. And the same thing with the fact that if it was one of those Stinger missiles, an honest government would come out and say, hey, we fucked up. But we don't have an honest government. Do I think the Trump administration is more honest than the rest of them? Absolutely. But the Trump administration is only like surface deep.

1:11:10 These people are all still embedded. We know that all of the people that are below that surface level, not all of them, a good portion of them were placed there for their loyalty, not to the American people, but to this international syndicate, which is how they get promoted, especially up into the SES group. So that's basically why.

1:11:38 And of course, you see it playing out today. None of us that know anything about our real history trust our government to do any investigation at all. That's why you're having the whole scenario playing out about Charlie Kirk's assassination, about Trump's attempted assassination in Butler, about the fake bombs that were planted. Because you cannot trust your government.

1:12:09 If we had a legitimate government that could do these things and had, even when it really, really sucks, said, we fucked up. As Americans, we understand that people in government are not perfect. But now, because you've got the last 70 years of nonstop lying to the American people.

1:12:38 You don't trust anything the FBI says. You don't trust anything the ATF, the DEA, nothing, none of them, State Department, any of them. You don't trust anything they say. And that's problematic to the survival of a country when you cannot trust your government. Okay, SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. As I understand it, they recovered 95% of this plane. I would imagine they would have...

1:13:14 not been able to recover 95% of it in the scenario that you're talking about. Why do you say that? If a missile hits an engine, you can find all of the pieces of the aircraft. They're just going to be pieces. Exactly. And that's my point from...

1:13:49 Them saying that it was somebody just dropping something or something falling off the plane somewhere along the line. I would have expected to see that in much more scenario. No, I think what the FBI was trying to tell that person they saw was something falling as opposed to something going up.

1:14:19 Before it even exploded. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. So it is very interesting. That. And when you put all of these. Incidents together. They really are stark. And you know. That there's lies somewhere. Like for example. This obviously was a missile. Hitting an engine. I don't think there's any question about that.

1:14:53 But then there's a ton of bodies. And then you have the one in Russia, 007, where there's no bodies. And it was the exact same thing. We know for a fact it was a missile hitting the engine of the flight 007, the KAL flight. And then there's not a single body anywhere, which is ridiculous. It can't be true. So again, it's...

1:15:22 In the case of this one, the Russian government line or the Soviet government. When you put them all together, it shows in stark contrast the repeated lies among everything and how nothing adds up to because you have all of these incidents. And in the Lockerbie, they found bodies.

1:15:50 The author did a great job of sequencing them in order to show the impossibility of some of the other things that happened. Renee, go ahead. Hey, good afternoon, everybody. I put in the purple pill a pattern I think I've recognized, and maybe you all can help me out.

1:16:18 Okay, what I put in the purple pill, you mentioned a company in the beginning of this chapter called Merriou, which is a French company. This company is connected to Luc Montagnier, who was the technician or whatever who worked in the Pasteur Institute lab in France. He first isolated the HIV, whatever you would call it.

1:16:47 And I remember hearing about him via Judy Mikovits during the whole beginning of the COVID stuff. And she laid her story down in a documentary called Plandemic. And it seems that the person you mentioned, the French man on this aircraft,

1:17:13 was connected to that family, the Mary You Laboratories. So I think I'm feeling a pattern here where some of these aircraft get shot down when there are doctors or someone's on board connected to the whole HIV thing. I mean, do you all, are you following me here? Because didn't the plane that was, and they're all blurring together now of these.

1:17:42 These planes going down and there's like doctors who discovered this or were going to a convention here to share their findings on HIV or AIDS or something. 57. Yeah. The one that was shot down over Ukraine. Yes. Okay. So. Because we did a whole show on that, Bridget and Cousin Etni. Yeah. Yes. So I'm saying, okay. And I think there was one.

1:18:12 a plane in Brazil that just kind of fell out of the sky that had a bunch of doctors on too. It wasn't necessarily the HIV. That was much more recent. But that had doctors, something, I think it wasn't connected to HIV or cancer, but maybe it was cancer. Yeah, it was cancer. Yeah, it was connected to cancer. Okay, cancer, yeah. So it seems there's perhaps a pattern here of when you have, I think, what do you all think?

1:18:42 I think that it's a pattern. There you have it. We did it. We found a pattern. Another one. Yeah, and it's not obviously isolated to...

1:18:55 doctors because of course you had the two whistleblowers the military guy and the CIA guy coming back to the states to tell that they had discovered the CIA narco on Lockerbie and you had the congressman on the one the KAL007 there's definitely a pattern of them not caring who else is on board

1:19:19 aircraft when they decide there's somebody on there that it's the perfect opportunity to take them out. And that goes in line with much of the other stuff that we've talked about. And they're just apparent, they could care less about what the collateral damage is if they have an objective. And their objective, in addition to, is terror.

1:19:49 And so you have this entire apparatus that is working behind the scenes. It's the same thing as when they took out that Cuban airliner that was leaving Venezuela and coming back to Cuba. They just have this disregard for humanity. Totally. It's crazy.

1:20:14 Yeah, I agree with you. It's kind of like a multifaceted ritualistic event where they not only get rid of people they don't want exposing stuff, whether it be a whistleblower, doctors, scientists, etc. But then they love to conjure up the ritualistic torture element to put fear and...

1:20:41 pain and suffering and sadness into humanity. It's just evil on so many levels. Yeah. Yeah. It's evil. That's the bottom line. So anyway, we're finished with that section of the book. I think the last section of the book is, I'll just give you the preview. It's Riding the Tiger, Domestic Terror.

1:21:13 And that's what chapter 30 begins with. And that's the last section of the book. So we'll go through a couple of those examples that he's dug into. And then we'll move on. So that's it for today. I appreciate you guys being here.

1:21:42 We'll be back hopefully tomorrow. But again, I'm traveling. So you guys know to be flexible. And we are going to finish up. I did, interestingly enough, find some very interesting ties to the group that Alpha Warrior and I were talking about last week called the Jasons.

1:22:11 that I think you guys are gonna find very, very interesting. So we're gonna do one more show on them on Wednesday night and find out how it relates to Tesla and his research and possibly Trump's uncle that reviewed Tesla's work. So I think you'll find the show very interesting. So that will be Wednesday at nine o'clock.

1:22:42 So you guys don't want to miss that show. All right, guys, thanks for another hour of history lessons into this hidden history that we've been exploring now for years. And I'll see you tomorrow at four o'clock, hopefully. Take care, everybody.

Entities here

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Claims made here

James Donahue member_of Air Transport Magazine book_quoted ▶ 14:26

“James Donahue, editor-in-chief of Air Transport Magazine, who said, quote, it's got the hallmarks of a bombing. That sounds so CIA-ish now, doesn't it? But he goes on to say it could be anything. Of t…”

Kroll Associates front_for CIA book_quoted ▶ 15:02

“spoke about mechanical failure. Airplanes don't just blow up. I've been following the 747 since the 1970s. I've never seen anything like this, he said. Robert McGuire, president of Kroll, C-R-O-L-L As…”

Robert McGuire member_of Kroll Associates book_quoted ▶ 15:02

Philip Stern member_of Fairfax Group book_quoted ▶ 16:42

“Philip Stern, the managing director of Fairfax Group, hinting he suspected terrorism, mentioned that the original departure point of Athens, so the aircraft flew from Athens to New York and had just d…”

Vincent Cannistraro member_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 19:16

“So what? Yes, yes. Oliver Revell, FBI, and Vincent Panastrano, CIA, were the exact two same spokespeople for TWA 800 that were the spokespeople for Lockerbie. What's the chances of that?…”

Oliver Revell member_of FBI book_quoted ▶ 19:16

“So what? Yes, yes. Oliver Revell, FBI, and Vincent Panastrano, CIA, were the exact two same spokespeople for TWA 800 that were the spokespeople for Lockerbie. What's the chances of that?…”

James Hallstrom member_of FBI book_quoted ▶ 22:26

“universe of potential causes. The special agent in charge of the New York office of the FBI was James Hallstrom. He was not quite as dismissing. He appeared to be when he told the media that, quote, w…”

Robert Francis member_of National Transportation Safety Board book_quoted ▶ 25:01

“because he was full of shit. By day three, it became evident that there were three powers at work fighting over the TWA 800 narrative. First, it became apparent that the NTSB spokesman, Robert Francis…”

FBI covered_up TWA Flight 800 crash book_quoted ▶ 28:46

“and not something coming up. So the FBI agents interrogating these people are saying something was coming down, even though you saw something going up. Okay. To many of these witnesses, it appeared th…”

FBI covered_up Oklahoma City bombing book_quoted ▶ 29:22

“This falls in line with what the FBI and Justice Department did after the Oklahoma bombing a year earlier when they dropped the search of John Doe number two within a few weeks of the event. They then…”

NSA member_of TWA Flight 800 crash book_quoted ▶ 33:30

“three paragraphs stood out. Quote, in addition, the notion that Stinger missiles from Afghanistan might have made their way into the U.S. was a longstanding assumption within law enforcement circles. …”

Iran supplied_arms_to Afghanistan book_quoted ▶ 34:26

“claimed this weekend that TWA Flight 800 was shot down last month by one of those shoulder-fired stingers of the type used by Afghanistan that we sold them. The sources said the missile arrived in Ame…”

Gamma al-Islamiyah carried_out_attack TWA Flight 800 crash book_quoted ▶ 34:58

“They claim an Egyptian fundamentalist group backed by Iran was responsible for smuggling the weapons across the Canadian border and into the U.S. The article went on to identify that group as Gamma al…”

Iran funded Gamma al-Islamiyah book_quoted ▶ 34:58

Gamma al-Islamiyah attempted_assassination_of 1993 World Trade Center bombing book_quoted ▶ 34:58

CIA supplied_arms_to Mujahideen documented ▶ 40:02

“During the Afghan-Russian war, the CIA, in support of the Mujahideen guerrillas, smuggled hundreds, hundreds of Stinger missiles into Afghanistan to counter the Russian MiG and helicopter gunships. Th…”

Israeli Intelligence trafficked Iran host_asserted ▶ 40:31

“But for some reason, the U.S. government decided to leave them in the hands of the CIA-controlled Mujahideen. The missiles were eventually taken to Islamabad, Pakistan, and put on the open market. Mos…”

Mujahideen trafficked CIA host_asserted ▶ 40:31

Rodney Stich exposed Carter Administration host_asserted ▶ 42:47

“But the CIA and the Clinton administration refused to take them back for some unknown reason. Investigator Rodney Stitch, receiving the information from a deep cover intelligence source, wrote a lette…”

Carter Administration refused CIA host_asserted ▶ 42:47

Rashid Dostum offered CIA host_asserted ▶ 43:20

“To prove how reliable his information was, the warning even included the serial numbers of some of the missiles, which were provided by one of Stitch's deep cover CIA whistleblowers. The offer to give…”

David Hoffman exposed TWA Flight 800 crash host_asserted ▶ 46:02

“that the Athens newspaper on August 23, 1996, reported on the front page that a Greek pilot had witnessed the explosion and described what he saw. The pilot was flying a 747 when he observed something…”

Yanis Barriopoulos witnessed TWA Flight 800 crash host_asserted ▶ 46:02

Linda Cabot witnessed TWA Flight 800 crash host_asserted ▶ 50:21

“half missing, and the ones that are still there are destroyed. Nothing special. Then came Linda Cabot. Photo. She was a resident of a local area attending a party near the beach. She took a photo duri…”

David Hendricks exposed U.S. Navy host_asserted ▶ 54:50

“Press Enterprise queried the Navy regarding the statements that there were no exercises being conducted nor military assets in the vicinity. This was done after he secured a copy of an unclassified me…”

U.S. Navy covered_up TWA Flight 800 crash host_asserted ▶ 58:15

“The flames on the area from the crash could be seen from Long Island, and the P-3 would not have been needed to be vectored anywhere. It was visible from where they were at. The Navy also apparently w…”

U.S. Navy carried_out_attack TWA Flight 800 crash speculative ▶ 59:44

“They were reportedly practicing how to shoot down drug smuggling aircraft with shoulder-fired missiles and were using flares dropped by the C-130 as targets. A missile was fired and got loose accident…”

KGB carried_out_attack TWA Flight 800 crash speculative ▶ 1:03:05

“So apparently it's not that rare. Finally, another news source, the International Currency Review, published the following information regarding the tragedy of TWA 800. Quote, a KGB defector has infor…”

Ramzi Yousef trained Soviet-Afghan War documented ▶ 1:04:50

“using the terror to gain greater control by the government. He goes on to say that different terrorist groups was at the time of the incident undergoing trial at New York City. Yusuf was trained durin…”

Luc Montagnier member_of Pasteur Institute host_asserted ▶ 1:16:18

“Okay, what I put in the purple pill, you mentioned a company in the beginning of this chapter called Merriou, which is a French company. This company is connected to Luc Montagnier, who was the techni…”

Luc Montagnier member_of Merieux Laboratories host_asserted ▶ 1:17:13

“was connected to that family, the Mary You Laboratories. So I think I'm feeling a pattern here where some of these aircraft get shot down when there are doctors or someone's on board connected to the …”

Donald Trump spied_on Nikola Tesla speculative ▶ 1:22:11

“that I think you guys are gonna find very, very interesting. So we're gonna do one more show on them on Wednesday night and find out how it relates to Tesla and his research and possibly Trump's uncle…”