The Colonel's Corner The Medusa File by Craig Roberts Part 8

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0:03 okay are we ready weird timing today um i did another show it'll be out in a couple of days with ben keller and we're kind of doing the history um from post-world war ii forward on all of these um cia gladio things and today

0:28 because I normally record with him on Sunday. I had to push it to today. We did Korea and just kind of going back through all of the notes that we have on the use of the stay behinds and all of that and the whole, you know, annihilation of the people that resided in the Southern area of Korea.

0:56 leading up to the Korean War, the prison island off the coast, going through all of those, kind of setting the stage, obviously, in a few shows to get to Vietnam because it's basically the opening salvo because much of the same things happened as we found out in Korea that would later happen in Vietnam. So I opened the book today.

1:26 to prepare for this show and were on Abandoned in Korea. So very fortuitous. So this starts on June 15th, 1950, when 10 divisions of North Korean troops, according to the author, swarmed into South Korea, which is not how it happened at all. We know that. There was a false flag.

1:55 through the use of stay-behind units above the Northern 38th parallel that started it. And it was not an invasion by the North by any means. As a matter of fact, leading up to it, all of the rhetoric in preparation for war had happened from South Korea in the public forum.

2:21 were all kinds of nefarious things going on as being reported in the newspaper, not to forget that the U.S. guy that had been imported to be the quote-unquote leader, because the CIA had already

2:47 uh adopted him and knew that they were going to put him in korea hopefully in charge of the entire peninsula but they weren't able to pull that off um the national assembly because he'd been in theater since post-world war ii this is 1949 1950 um the national assembly had just um voted or basically had been voted in and um were not

3:18 proponents of ri so they he knew that his tenure as the quote-unquote leader of south korea was on shaky ground so he had all of the um uh what's the word all of the reasons to want to instigate because we know as soon as leadership nefarious leadership is threatened the easiest way to eliminate the threat is to go to war

3:48 And that's exactly what happened. And also, I remembered this in my notes for the show today. The UN, being very new, had no jurisdiction in civil wars. And Korea certainly was a civil war. They had absolutely zero authority to do anything that they did. So it wasn't really a UN thing anyway, because there was a token.

4:19 few people from various other countries. It was really a U.S. led and orchestrated event. So with that in mind, we're going to go back to the story. Lots of give and take between the two forces were very familiar with the fact that there was the initial thrust into

4:47 The South, the push to the North, the incursions into China that brought the Chinese into it. And interestingly enough, there were Taiwanese called Nationalist China involved in this entire operation as well. So the author says South Korean army consisted of 95,000 ill-equipped, poorly trained peasants.

5:18 we hadn't already killed that were nationalists and didn't want us there to begin with. And they had militia. So the U.S. sends in additional Air Force and Navy assets right away. And there was a policy that allowed the South Korean military establishment to become no more than an internal security force at the time.

5:50 which made it impossible for the American staff and trainers to create an army capable of operating. And again, ignoring the fact that we had killed all of the real fighters that was standing up against Ri. Three days later, after smashing through a weak South Korean line at the 38th parallel, the North Koreans had entered Seoul.

6:22 And again, that's after they were prompted. So he paints the picture of a completely disorganized, demoralized South Korean force. And he talks about the UN taking the initiative to pass a security.

6:49 council resolution that had no basis at all because again it's a civil war then um he mentions that president truman on the 26th authorized the air and navy um on the 29th he had broadened the range of air force and naval targets um meanwhile general macarthur who by the way in that un resolution um it was never designated as a un force because

7:18 The US had already made it clear they wouldn't report to the UN. So they did something that was contrary to their own charter and they authorized it, but then allowed it to remain within the US jurisdiction. So, and we know that General MacArthur didn't spend any time. He just came and visited every once in a while. So he goes on and explains how all of this happened. And then he says, weapons and equipment.

7:48 were war-torn remnants of World War II that was being used and that the commanders of these units had no way of knowing that thousands of tons of equipment had been pre-positioned in Korea by the OSS and CIA at the end of World War II, almost like they knew what was going to happen. And then after they pre-positioned all of that in there, it mysteriously disappeared, meaning that

8:20 tons of it had been entered into the black market, not the least of which included Okinawa. The other half, coincidentally, was secretly sent to Vietnam by the CIA to help the French. Some weapons, medium tanks and artillery pieces in particular, could scarcely be found anywhere around. To compound the situation, ammunition reserves were suddenly found.

8:52 to amount to about a 45-day supply. This serious deficiency in both leadership and chain of command in the South Korean area was basically hamstrung the effort. It says Americans held on and by the 6th,

9:21 the remainder of the 24th Division had arrived and had taken to blocking positions and there were strung out. And then he says, over the next three years, the UN and communist forces would battle the length of the Korean Peninsula. And in late October of 50, China entered the war on behalf of the North Koreans, again, because we were flying missions into China to provoke that.

9:51 And it became basically a stalemate, back and forth, very bloody, lots of problems. And then we get to July 27th, almost three years to the date, a month later, where there's a series of peace talks. And there was an operation he refers to called the Big Switch.

10:21 It began on August 5th, 1953 and continued to September 6th. It was the largest and final exchange of prisoners between the UN forces and the North. In the beginning, the North Koreans and Chinese demanded all for all prisoner exchanges, but the US would not agree. Based on its World War II experience and knowing that mandatory repatriation did not work in Europe,

10:51 because they didn't want it to work. There were behind-the-scenes intervention of clandestine services, and the North and U.S. finally agreed on voluntary and non-forcible repatriation that would permit each side to release only the prisoners who risked to return. The problem with this plan, after half a century of dealing with the communists, is now obvious.

11:20 But in 1953, diplomats and soldiers alike still attempted to permit the communists a certain degree of latitude. This plan of voluntary repatriation worked to the advantage of the communists, according to the author, by simply stating that someone doesn't wish to return, that particular individual would disappear. According to official documents, approximately 12,200 communists, Chinese POW elected not to go back.

11:50 to China. While only 21 Americans are known to have actually, beyond question, said they didn't want to return. But there is still a question concerning 8,000 other U.S. missing in action, many of which were known to be held captive after the big switch and never repatriated. One article of the period in the New York Times reported that General James A. Van Fleet, retired commander of the U.S. 8th

12:20 Army in Korea estimated tonight that a large percentage of the 8,000 Americans listed as missing in Korea were alive. This was not the result of findings after Big Switch. The U.S. Military and Intelligence Services knew something about what was happening and possibly the end result five days into a month-long Big Switch operation. In a report by the UN Combined Command for Reconnaissance Activity,

12:51 In Korea, it stated that, quote, figures show that a total of the MIAs plus known captives, less those to be U.S. repatriated, left a balance of 8,000 unaccounted for, unquote. The report goes on to state that many of this number had been transported to Manchuria, China, and the Soviet Union during the span of the war. Many POWs transferred have been technicians and factory workers.

13:20 In a secret memo written by Hugh Milton II, Assistant Secretary of the Army in January 1954, four months after the conclusion of the big switch, a clandestine plan to recover lost Americans held by the communists is mentioned. And I'll read that. The unaccounted for Americans believed to be still held illegally by the communists. Classified secret.

13:49 There are approximately 954 U.S. personnel falling in that group. What the Department of Army and other interested agencies is doing about the recovery falls into two parts. First, the direct efforts of the UN Military Armistice Commission to obtain an accurate accounting. And second, efforts by the G2 of the Army, both overt and covert, to locate and identify and recover the individuals.

14:18 G2 making an intensive effort through its information collection worldwide to obtain information on these people and have a plan for clandestine action to obtain the recovery of one or more to establish a case positively that prisoners are still being held by the communists. The report goes on to say a further complicating factor in the situation is that to continue to carry these people in missing in action is costing over.

14:46 $1 million annually. It may become necessary at some future date to drop them from the records or to change their status to missing and presumed dead because they're still having to pay their families. As with the missing prisoners, the non-repatriated POWs of World War II, the men were simply written off as missing and presumed dead. In an April 1954 memo to Milton,

15:21 Written by Major General Robert Young, Assistant Chief of Staff to the G1 of the Army, he said the following. Under the provision of Public Law 490, the Department of Army, after careful review of each case and interrogation of returning POWs, has placed 619 soldiers known to have been in enemy hands and unaccounted for by the Communist forces in the following categories. Finding of death. Report of death.

15:50 dishonorable discharge under investigation or return to military control. He's just outlining the different categories. These numbers totaled 615 personnel, a significant drop from the original report of 954 Americans remaining in communist hands. This discrepancy occurred during the preceding months when a series of presumed findings of death for unaccounted

16:19 for Americans were utilized to cut the number down. Of considerable note is the first category of the report, administratively determined by the Department of Army. How does one administratively determine that a missing soldier known to have been taken into captivity and still to be alive at the end of the conflict now be presumed dead?

16:46 Such a finding of the government's behalf is simply a matter of convenience and economics. By removing someone from the MIA status and placing them in the KIA list, there's a one-time insurance payment to the survivors. This saves the government hundreds of thousands of dollars of monthly service pay, which includes promotions and pay raises over the life of the POW. What really happened to them is the question.

17:15 As with World War II prisoners, most appear to have been evacuated out of the war zone. According to several documents, the majority of missing men went to China and to the Soviet Union. One report from the OSO of the CIA said the following. At the time of the official repatriation, some of our repatriates stated that they had been informed by the communists that they, the communists,

17:40 were holding some U.S. flyers as political prisoners rather than prisoners of war and that these people would have to be negotiated for through a political or diplomatic channel. Due to the fact that we did not recognize China at the time, there was no possibility of negotiations.

17:59 Although State did have some exploratory discussions with the British in an attempt to get at the problem, the situation was relatively dormant when, in late November 1954, the Peking Radio announced that 13 of their political prisoners had been sentenced for spying. This announcement caused a public uproar and a demand from U.S. citizens, congressional leaders, and organizations to take action to release them.

18:29 but there were many more than the 13 airmen reported. Canadian Squadron Leader Andrew McKenzie, who had been captured, reported to China and held in the same camp for two years, reported after he was exchanged that he had been held with a number of American airmen and that none of the Americans in the camp were on the list of 11 whose sentencing had been announced. So that's 11 more. There were other reports.

18:59 Every time the government felt that it was succeeding in damage control and the issue could be put behind, other reports of sighting and information regarding live POWs being held in Russia and China surfaced. One shocking report that arrived by Washington's Foreign Service Dispatch cable dated March 23, 1954, sent from the U.S. diplomat posted in Hong Kong. The live sighting of hundreds of American POWs were reported.

19:28 American POWs reported en route to Siberia, it read. A recently arrived Greek refugee from Manchuria had reported seeing several hundred American POWs being transferred from Chinese trains to Russian trains near the border of Siberia and Manchuria. The POWs were last seen in 1951 and in the spring of 1952 by an informant and a Russian friend of his.

19:56 The informant was interrogated on two occasions by an assistant air liaison officer and the consulate general agrees with his evaluation of the information being true and the evaluation of the source being reliable. First report dated March 16th of 54 from an early liaison office in Hong Kong to the U.S. Air Force Washington G2. We don't have G2s.

20:26 We didn't have G's anything because that's an army thing. He's talking about the senior intelligence officer of the Air Force. This office has interviewed refugee source who states that he observed hundreds of POWs in American uniforms being sent to Siberia in late 51 and 52. Observations were made and it gives like a coordinates area.

20:55 Source observed POWs on railway station platforms loading into trains for movement into Siberia. In railway restaurants, Source closely observed three POWs who were under guard and were conversing in English. The POWs wore sleeve insignia, which indicated POWs were Air Force NCOs.

21:17 Source states that there were a number of other Negroes among the POW shipments and also states that no matter no time later were any POWs observed returning from Siberia. According to the source, POWs wore OD outer clothing described as not heavy to warrant the weather considered it was early spring. Some identified from pictures service jackets.

21:47 and identified them as being Americans. They reported that the conditions appeared good with no wounds. On the Chinese side, POWs accompanied by Chinese guards, POWs passed through gates dissecting platforms to Russian trains manned and operated by Russians. Russian train men wore dark blue and black tunics. He knows the train men were actually military wearing

22:18 not wearing uniforms. The source says the job was numbering railroad cars at different locations every time subsequent POW shipments passed. Source says these shipments were reported often and occurred when UN forces in Korea were on the offensive. Further information as to the number of POWs observed, source states that first observation filled a seven passenger car train and

22:48 Second observation said the same. The reports kept coming from returned POWs who reported comrades left behind and never brought home, to escapees and late repatriates who described the camps and the conditions and the personnel. For the politicians and peacetime military bureaucrats, the issue had to not only be addressed for this war, but all future wars.

23:16 In a report titled Recovery of Unpatriated Prisoners of War, the Defense Advisory Committee of POWs provided a list of solutions. They range from instilling in soldiers a don't get captured attitude, like you have a choice, to more flexible response by field commanders in dealing with the enemy on prisoner exchange proceedings. But one part of the report stood out from the rest and became the standard mindset for the U.S. government, not only in Korea.

23:46 but Vietnam and other conflicts. Quote, the military course of action apparently cannot be taken unilaterally. The problem becomes a philosophical one. If we are at war, cold or hot or otherwise, casualties and losses must be expected and perhaps we must learn to live with this type of thing. If we are in for 50 years of peripheral firefights, we may be forced to adopt a rather cynical attitude.

24:14 on this for political course of action. Something like General Erskine outlined, which would, one, instill in the soldier a much more effective don't get captured attitude, unquote. Yeah, yeah, let's go with that. Just don't get captured, evil bastards. As these whispered behind closed door courses of action were being presented, the public face of the government continued to present a more acceptable front.

24:46 In an attempt to resolve the problem in plain sight of the media, the U.S. Department of State sent an official U.S. diplomat note to Moscow. Quote, the embassy of the U.S. presents its compliments to the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republics and has the honor to request the ministry's assistance in the following manner. The U.S. government has recently received reports which support earlier indications that American POWs have been seen

25:18 to have been transported to the Soviet Union and that they are now in Soviet custody. The U.S. government desires to receive urgently all information available that the Soviet government has concerning these American personnel. The reply from the Soviets dated May 12, 1954, said the following. In connection with the note of the Embassy of the United States received by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,

25:47 The U.S. assertion contained in the indicated note that American POWs who participated in military action in Korea have allegedly been transferred to the Soviet Union and at the present time are being kept under Soviet guard is devoid of any foundation whatsoever and is clearly far-fetched since there are not and have not been any such persons in the Soviet Union.

26:11 As for the years went by, the issue of Korean POWs rose on occasion. Each time it was addressed with official voices of concern and sympathy. But in one memo dealing with Korean War and Vietnam POWs dated January 21st, 1980, written by Michael Oskenberg and sent to Brzezinski, the NSA under Jimmy Carter at the time said,

26:42 A letter from you is important to indicate that you take recent refugee reports of sightings of live Americans seriously. It is simply good politics. DIA and state are playing this game, and you should not be the whistleblower. The idea is to say that the president is determined to pursue any lead concerning possible live MIAs. The lives of the missing men were now simply a matter of politics.

27:13 Even though the Chinese in 1973 released two American POWs that had been captured during the Korean War, along with an American pilot shot down during Vietnam, little action was taken to ascertain if the Chinese held any more. Those two people, of course, were CIA agents. So where did the 8,000 people go? And what hampered us is because the U.S. government refused.

27:44 to recognize mainland China as an entity, refusing to have any communications basically with them because we recognize Chiang Kai-shek, the drug lord sitting in Taiwan, as the government of China. Moving on, plausible deniability. Though the Soviets denied the existence of American POWs in the Soviet Union, the White House knew better. President Eisenhower, already a veteran of Soviet POW holding,

28:16 tactics during World War II was privy to highly classified intelligence reports that not only mentioned the number of prisoners being held, but exactly where they were, specific names, ranks, units, hometowns. In several instances, gulag internees of other nationalities that were released by the Soviets came out of Russia with information describing Americans by name and physical descriptions.

28:44 Details about the person's background that only would be known by the individual. Still, the bureaucrats, the Pentagon, and American intelligence community refused to do anything. Instead, a policy of downplaying the POW issue became prevalent in 1954 and lasted through the end of and past the end of Vietnam. In 1954,

29:06 Colonel Philip Corso, an intelligence advisor to Eisenhower, was ordered to investigate the POW issue in regards to information that hundreds of Korean War soldiers were still being held inside Russia. Corso, working on the behest of Eisenhower's chief national security aide, C.D. Jackson, an old OSS-CIA guy and editor,

29:33 of Life magazine concluded that the most expedient way to approach the subject would be to interview someone who had recently been released from the gulag. He found that the CIA had just that person, a Soviet defector named Yuri Rasvorov. Corso contacted the CIA and set up an interview. By the conclusion of the meeting, Corso had his answer. He had not only seen Trump

30:05 trainloads of U.S. servicemen being transported to the Soviet Union, but described one particular train as containing over 400. Corso continued to investigate, and by the time his report was completed, it stated that, quote, the conclusion of the Korean War POWs by the hundreds, perhaps thousands, had been seen in the Soviet Union, unquote. He also reported to the president that the prisoners would possibly be used for intelligence purposes.

30:34 And when their usefulness was passed, they'd just disappear. They were, as far as the outside world would ever know, dead men walking. And it would be the government's best interest to consider them so and to hide the knowledge of their existence from the public. Eisenhower, having already been involved in much the same exercise in 1945, said, I think you're right. I accept your recommendation. Thank you, Colonel. You did a great job.

31:05 This policy became the official stance in 1955. All POWs, whether they were Korean, Chinese, or the Soviet Union, were written off. The government slate was now clean. Until the next time. By the end of the Korean War and the beginning of the war in Southeast Asia, other Americans fell victim to the government's policy regarding captured Americans. These cold warriors.

31:29 mainly consisting of airmen from various services who overflew or flew too close to communist countries, often found themselves in the same predicament. As the Cold War grew in intensity, it became a deadly game of spy versus spy. The Russians, lacking the capability to keep up with the West in modern technology, sent armies of agents abroad to obtain any information they could. The West, on the other hand, spent the majority of its time

31:56 trying to find out what was going on behind the Iron Curtain. The majority, sorry, I'm going to fly flying around here. The majority of their information was being generated by Reinhard Galen, the Nazi. In the early days, prior to the entrance of the SR-71 reconnaissance jet and the spy satellites, airborne intelligence was gathered by airmen who penetrated deep inside of communist air.

32:28 and not all of them came home. The fate of many of these men was not only downgraded by the government, but was covered up as a matter of policy. This was sensitive nature and secrecy of the mission. That was the reason given. This may have been true at the time, but it doesn't explain why their stories are still classified. The secrecy element fades.

32:56 When one reasons that the Soviets knew who they held and what they were up to. So who are you classifying it against? The American people. Because the Soviet already knew they captured them. You're not classifying it from the enemy. You're classifying it from us. The US government could not hide their activities from the Russians or Chinese. The secrecy fell by the wayside at the moment of capture.

33:25 So who was the government hiding it from? General Graves Erskine, Assistant Secretary of Defense under Eisenhower, wrote a memo to Walter Robinson at the State Department that sheds light on the official attitude. Quote, your attention is again invited to the undesirability of providing any information through any source which might lead the next of kin of these armed forces personnel discussed herein to assume or believe.

33:53 that these personnel might be alive and held unless the communists are prepared at some point to document such information, unquote. As the Cold War progressed, the U.S. government continuously denied the existence of any program of aerial spraying wherein U.S. aircraft was entering Soviet and Chinese airspace. In actuality, an entire covert high-altitude spy plane program was in full swing. It was called

34:21 Operation Overflight. It brought in reams of photographic and communication and electronics intelligence from all parts of the Soviet Union and China. Flown at first by U.S. aircrew utilizing highly modified aircraft containing sophisticated electronics and powerful cameras, the operation progressively grew more black when these aging aircraft became vulnerable to Soviet air defenses.

34:49 The result was a covert high altitude program with the U-2 and a team of pilots that were contracted to the U.S. as civilians, which we've already gone over. They were actually Air Force pilots that were then quote unquote separated from the Air Force and became contract pilots for the CIA. But when they finished with their CIA tour, they magically appeared back in the Air Force as if they never left.

35:18 to include promotions and all that other stuff. So in essence, they were Air Force pilots. This process eventually became known as sheep dipping. An individual who was sheep dipped was discharged from the military, but during the absence, everything stayed the same to include promotions and retirement years and blah, blah, blah. After serving with the CIA, the person would return to his regular branch and continue as if he'd never left.

35:50 Sheep dipping was to become a common practice later in Vietnam in the Laotian War years for almost everyone who quote-unquote left regular military. During the Cold War and later Vietnam, it was done to provide the CIA, by now referred to as the company, because of the number of contract agents being handled, with a system of plausible deniability. Simply put, any pilot captured

36:17 would, for a certain degree of plausibility, be denied as a member of the U.S. military or a representative of the U.S. government. In the case of the U-2, the cover was very simple. The pilots were contracted weather pilots, their mission of high altitude weather research. The Russians, of course, knew this was all a lie, and because of the ineffectiveness of their surface-to-air missiles, could not gather any evidence about these embarrassing overflights by U.S. airplanes.

36:46 until Francis Gary Powers was shot down, weirdly enough, while one of the U-2 CIA radar guys was sitting in Russia by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald. Previous to May of 1960, the Soviet air defenses had been unable to obtain performance characteristics or altitudes on the U-2. The U-2 pilots often reported looking down upon swarms of MiG-2s.

37:15 interceptors that could not attain the appropriate height necessary. These cluster of aircraft far below and the SAM sites at the time were ineffective as well. But on May 1st, 1960, Francis Gary Powers flying out of Pakistan, a classified location, on an overflight of the Soviet Union to Norway was hit.

37:45 The concussion of the SAM missile managed to find his range. The blast, which occurred behind him, pitched the U-2 forward so violently that the wings were ripped off. He found himself struggling to exit the inverted spinning aircraft and the Gs were incredible. Encased in a cumbersome spacesuit, barely managed to escape his capture shortly after landing in a muddy field.

38:13 A trial was held in Moscow for the world to see. Powers was accused of being a spy. His survival kit, which contained poison suicide devices, and he was sentenced to a lengthy prison sentence. But fate intervened, and almost two years later, he was exchanged for another pilot, or spy, sorry, Colonel Rudolf Abel, a more important Russian spy.

38:39 The end result of the incident was a cessation of overflies of the Soviet airspace until the advent of the SR-71. But for the majority of the crews who had been shot down and captured from 55 to 60, the Cold War would never end. The war in Southeast Asia was actually two wars. To the American public, they existed only as one war, the war in Vietnam. But the second, secret war,

39:12 was going on at the same time. The second war was the CIA's war in Laos. The only American military forces involved were a few hundred US Army Special Forces. And I'm not going to go over the war itself because, of course, we've been over it several times. We understand that there were all kinds of

39:40 nefarious shit that the mafia, Traficani, all of those people were involved in that. And Colonel Edward Lansdale, talk about another sheep dipped person only the other way. This was a CIA guy wearing a military uniform, was involved in it. He goes on to talk about the...

40:09 covert financing that was being ran out of there, the narco network, the fact that the Corsican mafia was involved, blah, blah, blah. And then you have the Gulf of Tonkin incident that generated the next phase of that. So at the end, the five days after the signing of the Paris Peace Accords, Henry Kissinger carried a letter.

40:40 to North Vietnam Prime Minister Le Duc Thao, which promised the U.S. would assist the government of Vietnam in post-war reconstruction. In the body of the letter, two paragraphs were of particular importance. The government of the U.S. will contribute to post-war reconstruction in North Vietnam without any political conditions. So that's nice.

41:09 We have to pay for the war and then we have to pay for the damage that they did. Preliminary U.S. studies indicate that the appropriate programs for the United States contribution to post-war reconstruction will fall into the range of $3 billion of grant aid over five years. Other forms of aid will be agreed upon by the two parties. This estimate is subject to revision and to detailed discussions between the governments of the U.S. and

41:38 Vietnam. The problem with this letter is that it was secret. None of the commitments it implied were revealed to anyone, either in Congress or the American public. This means that the letter was worthless. Unknown to the North Vietnamese, the constitutional process required to appropriate funds cannot be done by Henry Kissinger.

42:03 According to the Senate investigation on POW and MIA affairs, this letter and its promises would not have stood a chance of passing in Congress, even if Nixon or Kissinger had made the suggestion. Congress knew nothing of Kissinger's commitments. Had key senators and congressmen been told of the policy, they would have had the opportunity to tell the president that voting for billions of dollars of aid to North Vietnam would have been an admission of culpability.

42:36 which of course we were. The U.S. had failed in its mission to protect South Vietnam from the totalitarian regime in the North, which of course was not that at that time. The suffering, brutality, and death and dehumanization bore by the Vietnam people since the war is proof that the American goals in Vietnam was correct. Of course, leaving out, and that's my problem with this book,

43:03 the atrocities that the U.S. forces did on the Vietnamese. They were just as guilty, if not more so. Again, a civil war where we had no business of being. Perpetrated and set up by the French, recolonizing at post-World War II. All for the heroin. So, obviously it's not going to fly in Congress. Congress saw Kissinger's letter as a betrayal.

43:40 The president's emissary had pledged billions of dollars for reparations. Twelve days after the Nixon-Kissinger letter was delivered to North Vietnam, Operation Homecoming, the final repatriation of US POWs by the North, began. It lasted until March 29, 1973, barely six weeks after the $3.25 billion promise was made.

44:08 In that time, only 591 American servicemen had been repatriated out of the 3,000 missing. During the 60-day ceasefire instituted by the Paris Peace Accords, Americans were still flying combat and reconnaissance missions over Laos and being shot down. Is it secret? In one instance, a special operations electronic surveillance EC-47Q was downed in Laos with all aboard.

44:38 The EC-47Q was a modified C-47 Goonie Bird twin-engine transport that contained a cargo compartment full of highly sophisticated electronic monitoring and comm equipment. In a very suspect set of circumstances, this particular aircraft was carrying a sheep-dipped sterile Air Force crew of electronics technicians, was ordered to fly this one last mission before the war was officially ended.

45:08 It never came back. Nine days after the Paris Peace Corps and the ceasefire took effect, the ECE-47Q took to the air on its last clandestine mission over northern Laos. One crew member, Sergeant Peter Cressman, knew after reading the accords that the mission was in violation of the agreement. Therefore, should something happen to them and they get shot down, they would be war criminals.

45:34 But realizing that chance of getting shot down was only speculation, and if he didn't refuse to go, that he'd be court-martialed, he went. Somehow, over northern Laos, their aircraft entered what is known by pilots as Flak Trap. The Flak Trap is basically an aerial ambush where gun anti-aircraft guns

46:01 AAA are concentrated in one location where false targets are set up to entice unsuspecting fighters, bombers, and recon planes in. Many of these ambush sites were established in locations where certain types of aircraft were known to fly. The primary prey of the ground crew was the sophisticated reconnaissance just like they were flying because they would sell those aircraft to

46:29 the Chinese or the Russians. And that was basically their currency because they didn't have any money. So they were selling the pilots, preferably the backseaters. They didn't really want the pilots themselves. They wanted the recon guys that knew how to operate all of the equipment. And it is really weird that this mission was ordered to fly and give them

46:59 all of the reconnaissance capability, almost like you're making sure that you have a near competitor, like we found out they've done with the uranium and all of that other stuff. It's like you always want to keep your competition really close because it makes the military industrial complex a lot more money. If you are drastically over...

47:27 competent and have the capability then you can't justify keep spending more and more bucks so it's almost like they were sent on a suicide mission so these aircraft once they were shot down would have all the black boxes stole out of them so they could replicate the technology jerry mooney an analyst for nsa during the war was tasked with tracking the airmen who were shot down once they had been captured this was done through an analysis of enemy

47:58 communications. He had also intercepted Soviet shopping lists for the particular aircraft and planes that they wanted, specifically identifying WIZOs, which is the electronic warfare officers. Mooney kept a very special roster of captured specialists. The pilots, everyone knew, were taken to places like Hanoi Hilton to be used later as bargaining chips.

48:27 The specialists, dubbed back-seaters, right-seaters, or back-enders by pilots, spent only a brief time in North Vietnam. For beside each name on this roster, Mooney wrote Moscow-bound. In the camps, the pilots and other prisoners were not deemed technically valuable. Use the phrase, on the train. This meant that if someone was said to be on the train or to have been taken to the train,

48:57 They had to be shipped out to Russia or China. Such was probably the case of survivors of the Crestman. The flying Pueblo, as it was dubbed, entered the flak trap over northern Laos on February 5th, 1973. The enemy gunners, waiting in wait with massive AAA, opened up on the 30-year-old propeller-driven aircraft and delivered enough punishment to shoot it down. It didn't fall.

49:29 in a twisting, turning ball of flame. Instead, it was disabled and managed to crash land in the jungle. And a few days later, the wreckage was located by a search team, but no signs of bodies. At the same time, another U.S. recon plane intercepted enemy radio messages and discovered that at least four crew members from the EC-47 were being held captive. This information was relayed to Jerry Mooney.

49:58 On February 17th, these men were spotted and identified by a clandestine source about 18 miles away from the crash site and reported to be under guard and in good health. Mooney, in the days ahead, tracked more than just the original four crewmen. He located and tracked three others. Yet on February 22nd, this information notwithstanding, the Air Force declared them all dead. They knew that was a lie.

50:25 When questioned why he did not come forward later and announce publicly that the finding was incorrect, Mooney articulated that he had assumed that after submitting his report, either military action or covert action by the CIA would be sent in to rescue him. But that didn't happen. Instead, an issue died with all of the crew members, written off as KIA. Yet two months after the shootdown, four of the men were again spotted and identified, still in good health.

50:55 about 60 miles further away from the wreckage. It was apparent that this crew of specialists was being moved ever closer to North Vietnam for a train ride north. None were ever heard from again, and their names were never included on any POW list produced before or after Operation Homecoming. In another instance, an FB-111 was shot down north of the DMZ.

51:20 in Vietnam by a SAM missile that exploded close enough to cause the engine to flame out. The crew, Majors Robert Brown and Robert Morrissey, ejected and were captured. The aircraft crashed but was recovered in remarkably good condition. According to NSA analysts, the aircraft was located by the North Vietnamese.

51:43 and within four days was in transit to the Soviet Union. This prize, along with the crew members, would greatly benefit Soviet designers and system technicians. They were working on their own version of the F-111 that became the Su-24, swing wing fighter bombers. Other offshoot designs from the American swing wing technology had been developed from the F-111.

52:10 They appear in the MiG-23 and the MiG-27. It was also been reported that the high altitude supersonic MiG-25 owed its design to the Navy's A-5 vigilante. To serve as an example of what happened to American aviators that had been sent to the Soviet Union, the Patterson case is enlightening. According to a former...

52:35 Soviet major, one US POW believed to have been Navy Lieutenant Commander Kelly Patterson, was transported across China to the Soviet border where he was transferred to Russian control and moved to a Soviet airbase in Kazakhstan, which at the time was part of Siberia. The reason he was selected was because of his expertise in electronic jamming systems and tactics of the F-4 Phantom fighter. Like Cressman and his fellow crew members,

53:06 Patterson never returned. Instead, he was shown as killed in action by Air Force records. Through the efforts of analysts like Mooney, at least 65 American specialists was positively known to have been moved to the Soviet Union. In all probability, there were more. One source states that an additional 90 to 180 men were removed from Vietnam and Laos and taken to various locations, mainly testing and research centers inside of the Soviet Union.

53:34 According to the chief of security for the non-Soviet Laotian government during the war, the Russians wanted the technology. They were having trouble in the Middle East. MiGs were all the time getting shot down by American-built planes flown by Israel. They wanted to know why. For if the Israelis were able to shoot down the Soviet first-line fighters, so could the...

54:01 So in the end, the Soviet Chinese were trading obsolete arms and weapons systems for state-of-the-art American technology. And at the same time, testing their latest weapons in real-world environments. Intelligence-wise, it was a great trade-off. Very few Soviet lives were lost in the war. American intelligence tracked live American POWs throughout.

54:27 Vietnam, and Laos. Through reports of Americans being sighted in the Soviet Union surfaced on occasion, the majority of what little effort was expended was in Southeast Asia. According to DIA reports, Americans were being debriefed by Soviet officers as late as 1983. In one DIA memo, a Stony Beach report

54:56 Missing Air Force members Patrick Martin Fallon was reported to have been interrogated by 12 Soviet agents in an old USAID compound in Laos. Huh, USAID. Between September 17th, 1983 and October 13th, 1983, 10 years after Operation Homecoming and Nixon's statement on all American POWs had been returned.

55:26 In another intelligence report, 26 American specialists and special forces troops were transported to the Soviet Union between December 77 and January 78. According to an intercepted radio communication from a Soviet transport aircraft, carried the POWs out of an airport in Hanoi across Tibet to Russia.

55:52 On the last flight, the NSA picked up a signals emanating from inside North Vietnam that said there are no more SIGINT specialists in country, unquote. Terry Minerkensen, a CIA analyst in Vietnam, heard from one of his sources that these Americans after arrival in Russia were broken down into groups, put on airplanes and trains of the Trans-Siberian Railroad.

56:22 to Skolhal, the forward deployment base for the Soviet strategic bomber force. The U.S. government and various agencies concerned have all fallen into lockstep with the official policy. One, that there is no more prisoners in Southeast Asia. They're all dead. Two, no American POWs were transported to the Soviet Union or China. President Reagan

56:50 promised voters that the POW situation was of the highest national priority, and this was parroted by the Bush administration. President Clinton was very careful not to address the issue at all. Yet the preponderance of evidence show that the POWs were left behind and kept by Hanoi and the patent law.

57:11 After Operation Homecoming, the Pentagon finally admitted in 1992 that at least 100 men were known to have remained in North Vietnam custody long after the Nixon administration announced that all American POWs had been returned, but they never have admitted any knowledge of them being transferred to Russia. A classified CIA document said the following. It was dated June.

57:39 Let's see, the distribution date is June 71. Preliminary debriefing site for captured U.S. pilots in the Ven Phu province and presence of Soviet communists and Chinese personnel at the site. One, a preliminary debriefing point for U.S. pilots shot down over Ven Phu province. North Vietnam was located at the Lam Thao district.

58:07 Two U.S. pilots were taken to a debriefing point on one occasion in 1965, eight in 66, and an unknown number in 67. The prisoners were escorted to the site by personnel of the Armed Public Security Forces and students from a nearby school served as perimeter guards. Two, each time prisoners were brought to the site, they rode in an open car of Chinese origin resembling an American Jeep. Some of the escort

58:36 Guards rode in a lead car and other rode in two cars following the prisoners. Upon their arrival at the plant, the guards lined up forming a corridor through which the pilots entered the building. At a point, the Soviet, Chinese, and Vietnamese greeted the pilots and led them into the building. The pilots usually remained in the building for several hours. When they emerged, they had changed from uniforms to civilian clothing. And then two deleted names had told him that foreigners were...

59:04 Soviet and Chinese. Soviet personnel had been stationed at the plant since its construction in 63, but in 65, the number of Soviets had reduced to three or four and it remained at that level through June of 67. About 20 communist Chinese had arrived at the plant in 66 and there was at least 20 there in 67. Three, after shaking hands with the Soviet and Chinese, the prisoners were then led to different vehicles.

59:34 from the one which they were brought in on. They were escorted from the plant by a different set of guards who wore yellow and white uniforms and were armed with pistols and rifles. The source did not know the destination. So regarding those that were transferred to the Soviet Union, but were retained, were not transferred, but were retained in North Korea.

1:00:02 As holding cards against the Kissinger-Nixon promise of reparations, Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Harrington, who worked on the POW issue as a military intelligence and liaison officer with the North Korean, wrote in his book, Peace with Honor, an American report on Vietnam, quote, U.S. casualties under North Vietnamese control would be accounted for in prisoners returned after fulfillment of the promise, unquote, the $3 billion.

1:00:33 They were being held ransom. But on April 6, 1973, an 88-3 roll call vote in the Senate against paying any reparations to the North Vietnamese, especially after the public outcry over the reports of the torture of American prisoners that had been held by the North Vietnamese, sounded the death toll on the secret Kissinger-Nixon deal then a week later.

1:01:01 Now, of course, Congress was not told that any of these people are known to be alive. The administration knew. Congress didn't. Because the CIA and the administration is lying to everybody. The Armed Services chairman announced he would introduce a proposal to prohibit any U.S. aid for Hanoi. He also said justification for Nixon's request of $1.3 billion aid.

1:01:32 was either nebulous or non-existent. The next day, the Nixon administration in Pentagon announced that there was no more Americans alive in Southeast Vietnam and that the rumors did a disservice to the family. No, you leaving them there did a disservice to the family. Immediately, the cover-up began. The words went out to stations near and far that barring any blatant publicly exposed evidence of

1:01:59 live POWs resurfacing, the issue was buried. In a message sent from the U.S. Embassy in Saigon to the Secretary of State in Washington, attempts to cover up the fact that U.S. abandoned U.S. POWs is apparent. This is what it said. A defector was surfaced by the GVN to press 8 June Saigon.

1:02:30 In follow-on interview with AP, UPI, and NBC American Correspondents, questions elicited information that he had sent six prisoners, whom he believed to be Americans, who were not yet released. American officer present at the interview requested news services play down that detail. AP mentioned what was consistent with...

1:02:56 Embargo request while UPI and NBC after talking with the embassy press officer admitted the item entirely from its news story. Details on the account being reported through military channels by what was referred to as bright light messages today to the White House. So in other words, they're telling the White House, but you're not allowed to print it.

1:03:25 But no matter how much damage control the government attempted, annoying reports of live Americans being held continued to appear. In 1975, the CIA reported that a number of Americans were being held in Hanoi pending agreement on American reconstruction aid. The Vietnamese were not stupid and would hold the Americans until the $3 billion promise in aid was received. So we're going to stop right there. There's a, well, let me just finish this.

1:03:58 The government entities that drew the job of covering up the POW situation mainly consisted of compartmentalized elements in DIA, DOD, and the CIA. The cover-up operations to this day at the highest level. When former CBS executive Ted Landreth was preparing to broadcast We Can Keep You Forever, the BBC

1:04:26 documentary on the POW MIA situation that presented dramatic evidence that MIA and POWs were still a lot. Landreth discovered that the stations that had agreed to carry the broadcast had suddenly backed out. Landreth began to investigate and quickly learned that the reason was coercion at the highest level. One station manager reported that he had received a call directly from the White House and was threatened. If you put the British program on the air, you can forget coming to the White House.

1:04:56 during the Reagan administration. Other attempts to cover up were discovered by the authors of Soldier of Misfortune when they went to the National Archives in D.C. where they had been conducting research and discovered that an Army colonel in full uniform had visited the military reference and had demanded that the reference section stop leaking World War II documents related to prisoners of war kept by the Soviet Union.

1:05:21 They then found that someone had tampered with the very files the authors were using for research by inserting several new pages into military mission and Moscow file boxes. The pages had not been there previously and had been inserted in the middle of a bound metal document holder. The new pages contained false information that were apparent attempts to change the information that

1:05:46 20,000 Americans were never returned from the Soviet Union post-World War II. Among other recent attempts to cover up the information regarding American POWs or taken prisoner and never returned are the following events. In 1991, Brent Scowcroft, NSA National Security Advisor to the White House, blocked the release of a 36-year-old White House document requested by Mark Sautter.

1:06:13 co-author of Soldiers of Misfortune, regarding evidence provided by Rastorov about the U.S. POWs that he had seen transported. Skrokov on White House stationery ordered the National Archives not to release the report and to classify it as secret. The Bush administration on various occasions had hidden and censored many of the documents regarding POWs dating back to World War II.

1:06:41 On one occasion in 89, the DIA stated that they held no records of those missing or captured from the Korean conflict. It was later discovered, however, that just such a report existed, titled Alleged Sightings of American POWs in North Korea from 1975 to 82. The memo mentioned American POWs from the Korean War. It said, in an incredible twisting of logic, the administration refused to deal with reports of Americans from...

1:07:10 Korean War still being held in Siberia because it would be a violation of their privacy for the American people to know that they had been abandoned. You can't make that shit up. Second, they said concerning immediate attention of the POW scandal, the major networks and newspapers all know of the information presented in the recent disclosures, but as if in concert have failed to react. In the case of

1:07:37 soldiers of misfortune, according to the authors, CBS Evening News, 60 Minutes, Nightline, Time Magazine, New York Times, and the New Republic, all knew of the information presented by the authors and refused to report it.

1:07:51 CBS TV 60 Minutes, after assigning Monica Jensen Stevenson to do a segment on the POW affair, refused to air it when it was discovered that she had uncovered unrefutable evidence that Americans were still being held in Vietnam, Laos, and the Soviet Union. She chose to leave her job to pursue the story, along with her husband, William Stevenson, author of A Man Called Intrepid. The result was a best-selling Kiss the Boys Goodbye. On one occasion, Richard Harmitage,

1:08:21 who was at one time a civilian attache to the DOD in Saigon under Eric von Marbord, both identified a civil lawsuit filed by the Christich Institute as being involved in the CIA opium racket, which of course he was, appeared on 60 Minutes and stated that there was no proof that there was CIA or US POWs or MIAs alive in Southeast Vietnam.

1:08:49 Former U.S. Marine POW Bobby Garwood, who managed to escape captivity in Vietnam in 1979, instead of being welcomed home as a hero who managed to survive 14 years as a POW in Vietnam, was court-martialed as a defector. This action by the government followed the precedent set by the French when the survivors of Dien Bien Phu were finally repatriated.

1:09:13 By charging court-martialing and disgracing such a person, their credibility on statements concerning what they had witnessed was automatically refuted. And the cover-up continued as late as 1992 after reports of live Americans being held inside the Soviet Union by former Soviet intelligence and military officers and a report from retired KGB Major General Kalijin.

1:09:40 which stated KGB agents had interrogated American POWs three years after the fall of South Vietnam and five years after the withdrawal of U.S. troops, Russian and American officials continued to deny the allegations. It was reported in an interview between the former KGB interrogator and a reporter for the Australian television station.

1:10:04 Jeff McMullen, that nine US pilots after being interrogated by the KGB in North Vietnam had their throats cut by the North Vietnamese. Still no mention in the major networks or publications that these incidents even happened. Why would the US government not pursue any and all leads for live American sightings in Southeast Vietnam? And why such efforts to disavow 30,000 plus Americans that had been spirited into Russia?

1:10:34 The political embarrassment and a national interest need for the covert intelligence services, mainly the OSS and CIA, the American prisoners of war were very inconvenient. The answer to the first question is complicated. It has nothing to do with national security, nor is it the issue of the $3 billion that Nixon and Kissinger promised to North Vietnam. It goes much deeper and is directly related to two subjects that were never addressed.

1:11:02 by either the executive branch or the judicial branch of the government. Black operations in Laos during the war and drugs. And I wholeheartedly agree with that because it would be very ugly to have those people back and tell what they were actually doing. So just leave them over there to rot. The next chapter, chapter 19, goes into a little bit more.

1:11:31 But we will save that for tomorrow because it's a fairly long one. And interestingly enough, it talks about Nugent Ham Bank and some things that we've discussed extensively. I just find it interesting that it's in this book as well. So that's it for today. Bridget, SR? Go ahead, SR. Afternoon, Colonel, and afternoon to everyone here on.

1:12:08 on Rumble Spaces, and YouTube, by the way. YouTube. Yes. I'm watching all three. What can I say, Colonel? There you go. But anyway, I'm sitting here thinking, I can't for the life of me understand how people who have intimate knowledge about this stuff can sit there and tell the American public a complete lie.

1:12:38 I tell them that, no, there's nobody left. No, there's this and the other. Oh, no, they're all dead and gone now. And then you find out years later that they just flat out lied. And when you find out they flat out lied, you get other people to pop up and say, no, no, no. What this person is saying, that's we didn't see any of that. There's none of that going on. How much does it take to train a pilot?

1:13:13 So not only do you lose your aircraft, you lose the pilot as well. Well, I think it's actually more than that, although it is that. It's a complete break of faith between the U.S. government and the American people. They are doing nefarious things, and they don't want their nefarious things being exposed.

1:13:42 And they are willing to risk betraying the entire country to continue their nefarious operations. And that is a clear indication that you do not have a functioning government. And the loss of faith, now that all of this information has come out, is readily apparent in the population.

1:14:12 Because like we've talked about before, the 30-somethings that's grown up with this information available to them, they know. They know all of this. It's those of us who grew up under the figment of our imagination that we worked in a country and that we had a government that actually cared about the people that are still walking around to a large extent.

1:14:42 in the matrix that has been built for them. The younger generations aren't in that matrix. And it's really destabilizing for the country that the operations perpetuated themselves came to the forefront during the Biden administration and the whole COVID fiasco because these people literally don't trust their government.

1:15:12 with good reason. So you have the 30-something and younger generation that has no faith. They know all of this information. I'm astounded by how informed they are about the nefarious shit that the government has done. And the population that still remains in the dark are the 60 and older.

1:15:39 And that's very destabilizing for a country. 100%, Colonel, 100%. Yeah. I just, oh. I know. I'm sorry. I know. Believe me, there were so many times when I was reading this book, I wanted to throw the fucking thing in the garbage can. But I knew that this is information that we all have to have. And we have to reconcile this.

1:16:12 with the parameters that we have to insist on of our government. We have to demand. I can't tell you the number of books, like the Karen Silkwood book that I just finished reading. So during the trial, when they finally got the good judge that was willing to look at the material that was being presented, there were large chunks.

1:16:41 of the information that they did either in camera or in the judge's chambers. And one of the questions that said in open court that the judge, based on what he said, saw, could not allow the information into the court because it would destroy our country. That came from a legitimate judge.

1:17:12 Now, first of all, because it was talking about CIA involvement in it and the FBI and government officials. So you have to understand that the judiciary has been part of this silencing of information. Now, the reason why obviously I'd never be a judge is I'd put it all out there. There's nothing.

1:17:40 that the American people need to be shielded from as far as what our government's doing. That is not how a republic works. Our government should never be doing anything that would destroy our country if the American population knew it. Those two things in the same sentence are basically the acknowledgement that we don't live in a republic.

1:18:12 There's no constitution and we live in a banana republic because those people are making a determination of what information gets filtered down to the peasants. And that is a clear indication that we are considered peasants by our government. We are not adult enough. We are not responsible citizens to know.

1:18:40 what our government is doing in our name. And that just, to me, is so dumbfounding that that comes out of a judge's mouth. Go ahead, SR. Thank you, Colonel. It just goes to show the links they'll go to to keep this silent. I was thinking about the other thing that you were talking about and them paying off people. And it struck me that, you know,

1:19:13 That sort of correlates to 9-11 and what happened with all the victim survivors. We paid them off so they wouldn't go digging. I know exactly what's going on here. Yeah. It just blows my mind. So, Liz.

1:19:38 Jay Maz over on Rumble. So why did so many people take the pokes about five years ago and also repeatedly? Because again, they have been trained to trust their government. And up until four years ago with the whole COVID scam and this research project, I would have been in that boat. I would have never imagined the length that our government has went to.

1:20:08 and the nefarious shit that they've done. You kind of in your brain compartmentalize that, yes, I knew about the MKUltra, but something had to have been done. No, nothing was done. And you kind of compartmentalize those pieces of the information that that was that particular administration. No, it's all of them. And every subsequent one after that until Trump come along.

1:20:38 Again, you kind of live in a world where your brain automatically compartmentalizes the negative stuff and ignores it. And with the repeated programming that you get from watching television, it reinforces that compartmentalization.

1:21:03 Once you break out of that matrix and you start seeing things for what they really are, you can never go back into it. And that's why people, and you guys know, even from my friends, I constantly get criticized for bringing up historical proven facts. I'm not getting in another matrix. And I will criticize people, whether they're in the Trump administration or whatever.

1:21:32 when I think it's appropriate because I'm not getting back in the matrix. And I don't make assumptions that they're doing something for the good. I want to see that it's actually good. And so I don't tend to get involved in the current events as they come up because I understand there's a lot more there that we don't know. But I will not hesitate to

1:22:02 put it in historical context so people understand that just because the U.S. is saying something is good, the rest of the world does not believe the U.S. The rest of the world knows what we've done. And you cannot leave that out of the conversation. There has to be accountability for everyone. No one gets a pass anymore. Not with me, they don't. SR, go ahead.

1:22:35 Go ahead and take why are you so mad? She was there. OK, go ahead. This is kind of off the subject. I watched Tommy's podcast this morning and I really appreciate you protecting the isms. Some of us were kind of stuck on the chain for a while. I guess I'm blessed with the.

1:22:58 the innate feeling of distrust of everyone. And that has kind of worked out in my best interest. I wish people weren't so trusting and that whole idea of trusting your government is a very strange concept to me and it should be for anybody. Yeah. So I have to call out Donnie vision. The Colonel has mentally moved to Missouri. Show me.

1:23:26 I love it. Thank you, Donnie Vision, for saying that. And Mager Sarge, gladioglasses on. Yep. They are permanently affixed now. Go ahead, SR. Actually, that's what I was going to tag on to, the gladioglasses, because you're right about the 30-somethings. There's no doubt in my mind. It's all there for them to see it, okay?

1:23:54 myself i'm 70 years old so you know where i'm coming from but but anyway all of that it wasn't until and i looked at everything as a single event we're dealing with one event we're dealing with one event we're dealing with one event and when you came out with the gladio glasses and you said connect the dots we're starting here and you'll see why uh yes i'm fully awake yeah

1:24:28 And I understand what's going on now. And it really, we're doing stuff about it, which is good. That's why I think it's so important and why I constantly provide the affirmation to this entire audience. This is not an easy journey. I understand that. It's not easy for those of us that were in the system. It's not easy.

1:24:57 for the people that had all of that trust in the institutions and particularly the military to find out that there's nefarious players in all of them. And you can't blanketly trust any of them. And I can't thank you guys enough for spreading all of the information that I post on X because...

1:25:26 As you can see, when you look at that analytical chart, our account is like suppressed to no end. It's just amazing to me that there will be handfuls of people that will post some little tiny piece of what we've already discovered like three years ago. And it will get...

1:25:54 a million impressions. But for some reason, and I know people tell me you're already at the finish line, I don't care. That's ridiculous. And the more people that you guys share, not just our videos with, but the post on X, you guys know, and I know you know, that it takes a lot of time to...

1:26:24 put that information together. I have to go back through my notes and cut and paste and do all kinds of different things because I don't remember all of the names. I have a lot of them committed to memory, but not all of them. And so in order to address a particular issue, I have to go back and look up a lot of information that I have. And it does take time. And that's,

1:26:53 I accept that that's what I'm here for. But, and I just wanna thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for being here every day, taking this journey, because I do believe that we have a family of truth tellers now that are armed with information that you can spread. And you can, and I know you guys do that because I see it in the numbers.

1:27:20 especially on the YouTube side of it, but on Rumble, that you guys are sharing this information and I appreciate it a lot. So, and I get it in the DMs too. It's all notes of encouragement, you guys. I love it. And I get all kinds of information from you guys. You know that. I would have never thought.

1:27:48 to read that Karen Silkwood book. And I'm hopefully we'll have, I'm not sure I'm going to get it together for Wednesday night. I hope I am able to do that. But the information in there and how it relates to the journey that we've been on is mind blowing to me. And in addition,

1:28:10 It relates directly to that book that I just finished. And again, these are just random recommendations from you guys. I had a DM telling me to buy the book, Belly Up, which is about another bank failure. That was tied into the book that we did with Pete Bruton. That was another piece of the puzzle. And I had just finished that book.

1:28:37 and then read the Karen Silkwood book. And on the last page of the Karen Silkwood book, it tied directly to the Belly Up book. And I'm like, my mind is just completely blown here. And both of those recommendations came from you guys. Both of those came from you guys. And two different, completely different people, but they tie directly together. And I don't know what made me, I have like,

1:29:06 15 books on the stack to read. Neither one of which was those two books, but they were small enough books that I could get through in a weekend. And I just happened to read them both together. My mind was blown. So again, that's all on y'all. That's all on y'all. And we're definitely working through this together. So anyway, thank you all for being here.

1:29:34 I will see you tomorrow. And then we've got the Alpha Warrior Show. Well, you know, I'm not sure we'll be doing the Alpha Warrior Show tomorrow now that I'm thinking about it. He's at a GART. I know some people traveled. I think it's in Deadwood, South Dakota. So I don't know. I will reach out to him as soon as we get off the air and confirm whether or not we're having the show tomorrow night because that'll definitely prioritize what I'm doing. Anyway.

1:30:03 Thank you guys for being here. Appreciate it. And I will see you tomorrow at four o'clock, four o'clock regardless. Take care, everybody.

Entities here

Vietnam29 Soviet Union27 China27 United States25 CIA20 Laos14 Korean War12 Korea10 Richard Nixon8 U.S. Air Force8 POW/MIA Cover-up8 Henry Kissinger8 Siberia7 South Vietnam7 U.S. Congress5 Jerry Mooney5 U.S. State Department5 Philip J. Corso4 Big Switch4 Trump administration4 Gary Powers4 Operation Homecoming4 The Killing of Karen Silkwood3 60 Minutes3 World War II3 Paris Peace Accords3 Dwight D. Eisenhower3 Hong Kong3 CBS News3 Kelly Patterson3 Peter Cressman3 Belly Up2 U.S. Army2 France2 Operation Gladio2 Graves Erskine2 U.S. Navy2 Manchuria2 Douglas MacArthur2 National Recovery Administration2

Claims made here

CIA supplied_arms_to France book_quoted ▶ 8:20

“tons of it had been entered into the black market, not the least of which included Okinawa. The other half, coincidentally, was secretly sent to Vietnam by the CIA to help the French. Some weapons, me…”

CIA covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 10:51

“because they didn't want it to work. There were behind-the-scenes intervention of clandestine services, and the North and U.S. finally agreed on voluntary and non-forcible repatriation that would perm…”

Korea covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 11:20

“But in 1953, diplomats and soldiers alike still attempted to permit the communists a certain degree of latitude. This plan of voluntary repatriation worked to the advantage of the communists, accordin…”

Hugh Milton II covered_up Big Switch documented ▶ 13:20

“In a secret memo written by Hugh Milton II, Assistant Secretary of the Army in January 1954, four months after the conclusion of the big switch, a clandestine plan to recover lost Americans held by th…”

Robert Young Pelton covered_up Big Switch documented ▶ 15:21

“Written by Major General Robert Young, Assistant Chief of Staff to the G1 of the Army, he said the following. Under the provision of Public Law 490, the Department of Army, after careful review of eac…”

China covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 17:15

“As with World War II prisoners, most appear to have been evacuated out of the war zone. According to several documents, the majority of missing men went to China and to the Soviet Union. One report fr…”

Soviet Union covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 17:15

China covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 17:59

“Although State did have some exploratory discussions with the British in an attempt to get at the problem, the situation was relatively dormant when, in late November 1954, the Peking Radio announced …”

Andrew McKenzie covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 18:29

“but there were many more than the 13 airmen reported. Canadian Squadron Leader Andrew McKenzie, who had been captured, reported to China and held in the same camp for two years, reported after he was …”

Soviet Union covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 19:28

“American POWs reported en route to Siberia, it read. A recently arrived Greek refugee from Manchuria had reported seeing several hundred American POWs being transferred from Chinese trains to Russian …”

U.S. State Department covered_up Big Switch documented ▶ 25:18

“to have been transported to the Soviet Union and that they are now in Soviet custody. The U.S. government desires to receive urgently all information available that the Soviet government has concernin…”

Soviet Union covered_up Big Switch documented ▶ 25:47

“The U.S. assertion contained in the indicated note that American POWs who participated in military action in Korea have allegedly been transferred to the Soviet Union and at the present time are being…”

Michael Oskenberg covered_up Big Switch documented ▶ 26:11

“As for the years went by, the issue of Korean POWs rose on occasion. Each time it was addressed with official voices of concern and sympathy. But in one memo dealing with Korean War and Vietnam POWs d…”

Zbigniew Brzezinski covered_up Big Switch documented ▶ 26:11

China covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 27:13

“Even though the Chinese in 1973 released two American POWs that had been captured during the Korean War, along with an American pilot shot down during Vietnam, little action was taken to ascertain if …”

Dwight D. Eisenhower covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 28:16

“tactics during World War II was privy to highly classified intelligence reports that not only mentioned the number of prisoners being held, but exactly where they were, specific names, ranks, units, h…”

C.D. Jackson covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 29:06

“Colonel Philip Corso, an intelligence advisor to Eisenhower, was ordered to investigate the POW issue in regards to information that hundreds of Korean War soldiers were still being held inside Russia…”

Yuri Rasvorov covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 29:33

“of Life magazine concluded that the most expedient way to approach the subject would be to interview someone who had recently been released from the gulag. He found that the CIA had just that person, …”

Philip J. Corso covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 30:05

“trainloads of U.S. servicemen being transported to the Soviet Union, but described one particular train as containing over 400. Corso continued to investigate, and by the time his report was completed…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower covered_up Big Switch book_quoted ▶ 30:34

“And when their usefulness was passed, they'd just disappear. They were, as far as the outside world would ever know, dead men walking. And it would be the government's best interest to consider them s…”

Reinhard Gehlen funded Operation Overflight host_asserted ▶ 31:56

“trying to find out what was going on behind the Iron Curtain. The majority, sorry, I'm going to fly flying around here. The majority of their information was being generated by Reinhard Galen, the Naz…”

Graves Erskine covered_up Operation Overflight book_quoted ▶ 33:25

“So who was the government hiding it from? General Graves Erskine, Assistant Secretary of Defense under Eisenhower, wrote a memo to Walter Robinson at the State Department that sheds light on the offic…”

CIA recruited Gary Powers host_asserted ▶ 34:49

“The result was a covert high altitude program with the U-2 and a team of pilots that were contracted to the U.S. as civilians, which we've already gone over. They were actually Air Force pilots that w…”

Soviet Union captured Gary Powers documented ▶ 37:45

“The concussion of the SAM missile managed to find his range. The blast, which occurred behind him, pitched the U-2 forward so violently that the wings were ripped off. He found himself struggling to e…”

Soviet Union exchanged Gary Powers documented ▶ 38:13

“A trial was held in Moscow for the world to see. Powers was accused of being a spy. His survival kit, which contained poison suicide devices, and he was sentenced to a lengthy prison sentence. But fat…”

CIA recruited Edward Lansdale host_asserted ▶ 39:40

“nefarious shit that the mafia, Traficani, all of those people were involved in that. And Colonel Edward Lansdale, talk about another sheep dipped person only the other way. This was a CIA guy wearing …”

Henry Kissinger promised Vietnam documented ▶ 40:40

“to North Vietnam Prime Minister Le Duc Thao, which promised the U.S. would assist the government of Vietnam in post-war reconstruction. In the body of the letter, two paragraphs were of particular imp…”

Jerry Mooney tracked Peter Cressman book_quoted ▶ 49:58

“On February 17th, these men were spotted and identified by a clandestine source about 18 miles away from the crash site and reported to be under guard and in good health. Mooney, in the days ahead, tr…”

United States covered_up Peter Cressman book_quoted ▶ 49:58

Vietnam transferred Robert Brown book_quoted ▶ 51:43

“and within four days was in transit to the Soviet Union. This prize, along with the crew members, would greatly benefit Soviet designers and system technicians. They were working on their own version …”

Vietnam transferred Robert Morrow book_quoted ▶ 51:43

Vietnam transferred Kelly Patterson book_quoted ▶ 52:35

“Soviet major, one US POW believed to have been Navy Lieutenant Commander Kelly Patterson, was transported across China to the Soviet border where he was transferred to Russian control and moved to a S…”

Soviet Union interrogated Patrick Martin Fallon documented ▶ 54:56

“Missing Air Force members Patrick Martin Fallon was reported to have been interrogated by 12 Soviet agents in an old USAID compound in Laos. Huh, USAID. Between September 17th, 1983 and October 13th, …”

Stuart Harrington wrote Peace with Honor documented ▶ 1:00:02

“As holding cards against the Kissinger-Nixon promise of reparations, Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Harrington, who worked on the POW issue as a military intelligence and liaison officer with the North Kor…”

Ted Landreth exposed POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:03:58

“The government entities that drew the job of covering up the POW situation mainly consisted of compartmentalized elements in DIA, DOD, and the CIA. The cover-up operations to this day at the highest l…”

CIA covered_up POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:03:58

Trump administration covered_up POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:04:26

“documentary on the POW MIA situation that presented dramatic evidence that MIA and POWs were still a lot. Landreth discovered that the stations that had agreed to carry the broadcast had suddenly back…”

Mark Sautter exposed POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:05:46

“20,000 Americans were never returned from the Soviet Union post-World War II. Among other recent attempts to cover up the information regarding American POWs or taken prisoner and never returned are t…”

Brent Scowcroft covered_up POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:05:46

William Stephenson exposed POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:07:51

“CBS TV 60 Minutes, after assigning Monica Jensen Stevenson to do a segment on the POW affair, refused to air it when it was discovered that she had uncovered unrefutable evidence that Americans were s…”

Monica Jensen Stevenson exposed POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:07:51

Richard Armitage covered_up POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:08:21

“who was at one time a civilian attache to the DOD in Saigon under Eric von Marbord, both identified a civil lawsuit filed by the Christich Institute as being involved in the CIA opium racket, which of…”

United States covered_up POW/MIA Cover-up book_quoted ▶ 1:08:49

“Former U.S. Marine POW Bobby Garwood, who managed to escape captivity in Vietnam in 1979, instead of being welcomed home as a hero who managed to survive 14 years as a POW in Vietnam, was court-martia…”