The Colonel's Corner The Medusa File by Craig Roberts Part 3

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0:06 Okay. Let me get switched over here. I was just looking something up real quick. All right. I'm not going to be able to find it. Shoot. All right. So we're going to continue with chapter three. This chapter is called The Weapons of Terror.

0:39 It starts off with the missiles raining down on the city of London. And obviously this is post-World War or during World War II. And it's talking about the V2 ballistic rocket being fired against Britain. And it goes on and talks about how by late June of 1944,

1:10 empire had begun to crumble and that the U.S. forces had started their southern entrance into Europe through the country of Italy. And it talked about how the allies had came ashore at Normandy. So the pinch is happening. And of course we have the Soviet Union.

1:40 on the Eastern Front. So all of this was happening and Hitler had decided that he was interested in basically a last ditch effort, which was this B-2 rocket deployment. And the book starts talking about a Nazi SS general by the name of Walter

2:11 Dornberger. He was an experienced artillery officer, professional engineer, and was head of the rocket research project of Hitler's. His SS connections proved very useful to him during this research because it basically cut out all of the red tape. He realized that to protect the personnel in the manufacturing facilities,

2:43 the rocket production needed to be moved from where it was at. He had began moving this to a secluded location in the mountains of Central Europe, or excuse me, Central Germany. He had been using slave labor like all of the factories around there in order to do this. And it was kind of a last ditch.

3:11 So, of course, all of the people that were moving all of this heavy industry was severely abused and it turned into a spectacular human tragedy. After the construction was completed, a labor force was required on the assembly lines to mass produce these B-2 rockets. And the author goes through and talks about how he utilized 10,000.

3:39 prisoners from a local concentration camp in order to produce these rockets. In the winter of 1945, U.S. Army Colonel James Collins, who was leading an infantry unit in its advance through that particular sector, received an odd radio message from his forward units telling him, you better get up here quick.

4:11 In addition to the 20,000 people that were lost, died, being overworked, malnutrished, and all of that stuff. Collins goes to the head of his movement to the designated location. And what he finds is what turns out to be over 6,000 bodies covering the ground. He just stopped and stared. He couldn't believe it. There was...

4:43 The odor of rotting bodies, which he would later say was hard to get out of his head for several years to come. That's the end of chapter three. It goes on to chapter four, which is Operation Paperclip and grabbing the Nazi scientist. And of course, this is going to be a reenactment of what we just talked about that happened.

5:17 in Japan and one we know a lot more about. So I'm not going to go into a lot of detail here other than to say that as with the Japanese medical officers involved in the Manchuria experiments, the crimes committed by certain Germans who held expertise that might prove future value to the American governments would all be overlooked.

5:47 So you just heard described the scene that this man was directly responsible for. Not only did 20,000 people that they could figure out lose their life, lost their life under his direction and production using labor camp people, but there's 6,000 bodies laying on the ground when they arrive.

6:16 But would he ever be held accountable? Absolutely not. He goes on to say that, of course, there's this grand illusion that despite the fact that we're still in the middle of a war, the war is not over at this point. The breaching of these facilities and already the segregation out of those in charge.

6:49 being given special treatment and put in particular camps with VIP surroundings was already occurring. While the Soviet Union is still our ally, still dying on the battlefield, there is this drumming up of, they're going to be our next immediate threat. And it was circulating through the army, as we already know, thanks to several of the senior leaders,

7:20 comments without any reference to the fact that over 25 million Soviet Union people had been killed during World War II. The author then goes on to say that at first, Paperclip's mission was to locate the scientists and technology and bring them to the United States, debrief them, then turn them back and have them answer for all of the accusations.

7:51 But it didn't take long for people in the Joint Intelligence Committee and Exploitation Branch under the Army GT-2, as well as the Joint Intelligence Objective Agency and the OSS, to change those plans. Endorsed by President Truman, paperclip went into high gear just as the Nuremberg trials were entering full swing.

8:21 As some Nazi warlords were given death sentences for war crimes and atrocities that included massive deaths in concentration camps, the very people who were directly involved with thousands of those same deaths was protected, all in the name of national security. He goes on to say that the military industrial conglomerate, the capture of these Nazi scientists was a bonanza.

8:54 The Allies were astounded at the incredible advances the German scientists had made in all kinds of areas, not just weapons development, but psychological operations, communication, aircraft development, chemical and biological warfare. They commented about the advanced jet propulsion and aircraft design, which none of the Western...

9:24 People had incorporated in any, even their most fantastic things they'd like to design. They hadn't seen anything like it. To include turbojet engines, they had technology that they had never seen before. The V1 and V2 rockets were the same thing. They had developed a very capable small liquid fuel missile that could reach altitudes of 55,000 feet.

9:56 something unheard of at the time. Other weapons were equally amazing. The multi-barrel rocket launcher was capable of launching chemical weapons that participated in the invasion of Poland and terrorized the Russian army on the Eastern Front. A brigade of these launchers could fire 108 rounds in 10 seconds. That's crazy.

10:26 They also had a super long-range multi-chamber cannon that sent a projectile down a barrel that added explosive charge as it reached the successive chambers. And then, of course, we know about the death gas that they were experimenting on at IG Farben. They were using Jewish people gypsies.

10:58 Slavs, Polish people, and other people they had labeled as subhumans. Lesser known to the outside was the existence of three deadly nerve gases, tabun, T-A-B-U-N, tabun, sarin, and somin. These gases were so much more effective than mustard agents stockpiled by the Allies.

11:31 that they quickly became the new super secret chemical agents. And thanks to their documentation, they had what the results were when they were experimented on with human beings. American forces picked sarin gas as the one that they wanted to further explore.

12:07 um preferred the whatever it is tabon t-a-b-u-n as their new chemical weapon the reason for those choices were simple a joint team of american british and canadian experts headed by commander ak mills of the british ministry on aircraft production utilized intelligence gathered during the war had discovered a chemical warfare experimental station used by the lufwafa

12:37 which led them to several similar sites. In the end, the group was able to determine that Tibon, at one factory alone, was being produced at the rate of 1,000 tons a month. This particular factory was captured by the Russians intact. The experimental gas station, not like petroleum gas, chemical gas,

13:07 Mill's teams discovered evidence of massive human experimentation with chemical agents. In one instance, over 4,000 photographs were discovered depicting mustard gas experiments on the skin of what appeared to be concentration camp prisoners. Records showed that several of the prisoners had died as a result of the exposure to the chemical weapons.

13:34 Further searching produced people responsible, like SS Brigadier General Walter Schreber, who had been in charge of chemical industry under Albert Speer. He was located in a detention camp. General Walter Hearst, head of the Weimar Chemical Warfare Section and 13 cohorts, were captured within weeks of the fall of Berlin.

14:01 This led researchers to virtually every chemical weapon expert in the Third Reich. In search for the Nazi nuclear physicist responsible for Germany's efforts towards an atomic bomb, a team headed by Lieutenant Colonel Boris Pash, P-A-S-H, former security officer over the U.S.'s Manhattan Project, stumbled upon something of interest.

14:31 The team was codenamed ALSOS. They discovered major biological warfare research base located at the University of Strasbourg. They found evidence that the university head of biological warfare research, Eugene von Hagen, had deliberately infected concentration camp prisoners with spotted fever, killing several.

15:01 Other professors at the university had performed similar chemical and biological experiments on human subjects. Chief among them was SS Representative Professor August Hirt, H-I-R-T. He provided the human guinea pigs for the experiments from various concentration camps. He was known for his huge collection of human skulls, which were gleaned from bodies.

15:34 that they experimented on. Hitler's chief of biological warfare, Kurt Blom, B-L-O-M-E, who had constructed the first biological warfare laboratory at the personal request of Heinrich Himmler. Himmler, along with Blom, had decided on their own biological agents and that they would be deployed against allied troops on both fronts as soon as the bacteria

16:05 and viral agents could be identified, mass produced, and suitable vectors chosen, meaning how to deploy them. Like Unit 731, the Germans were having developmental and research problems in the biological warfare on the deployment side. German medical experimentation on concentration camp prisoners was well documented.

16:34 Bizarre cases of experiments on various races were being done to determine their susceptibility to diseases, climate, diet, and pain. They attempted to transplant organs, change eye color, and even blood type. Most resulted in the death of the patient. In secret projects that paralleled those going on at Unit 731,

17:08 The Germans experimented on cold. Basically the same thing. We don't need to go into it. They did basically the same thing. Under the guidance of Professor E. Holzlauner of Kiel University, several doctors, including Dr. Sigmund Ratscher, R-A-S-C-H-E-R, conducted those freezing experiments. As soon as scientific

17:38 Investigation teams found out about Dachau. Several units were dispatched there. Thousands of documents had been found. To the average soldier, Dachau was a house of horrors. But to a scientific discovery team, it was a goldmine. They had documentation of all of that aerospace, hyperthermia, all of that stuff there.

18:13 Most of the aerospace medicine experiments came under the auspices of Colonel Hubris Stronghold, head of the Luftwaffe Institute for Aviation Medicine in Berlin. The investigators later determined that most of the information gleaned from the Nazis regarding the freezing altitude pressure test that killed most people was gathered up and the people involved saved.

18:44 from Nuremberg. By the spring of 46, policymakers in the State Department, War Department, and a coordination committee were in a quandary. Besides having to deal with Ishii and the Unit 731 personnel, they were now faced with how to proceed with paperclip. President Truman, after giving permission to import German scientists, made it clear, at least to the American public,

19:17 that no war criminal would be brought into the country. Of course, we know that was a bold-faced lie, and they planned on doing that the entire time. They were quickly discovering that finding suitable German scientists who were not Nazis was impossible. They were all Nazis. They were all members of the Nazi party. Many held membership in multiple.

19:49 Nazi organizations. Most of the high ranking scientists and technicians were either members of the SS or SA. Almost all had either performed experiments on prisoners or had participated in the development of the weapons that they knew were going to be used on the prisoners. It was becoming pretty apparent to the various entities within the covert intelligence community that something would have to be done outside of

20:22 presidential directive to get these people into the United States. In August of 1946, Acting Secretary of State Dean Atkinson sent a copy of a memo, the memo that said you can't do it, and basically attempted to revise the paperclip policy to President Truman. According to the policy, the selected German scientists would be under military custody and control.

20:53 They would be entering the country without visas. And after the War Department screened their backgrounds, the State Department could approve them. They would be offered contracts with either the military or private employment. No member, this is a quote, no member found by the commanding general to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities.

21:20 or an active supporter of nazism or militarism shall be brought into the united states so you see what they did they said that you could be a member of the nazi party but as long as you could just be a nominal participant in name only type thing then it was fine that little revision gave them the wiggle room to be able to lie to the american

21:51 of saying there's none here while actually bringing them all in, even though they knew the majority of them had not just been involved. They were the responsible for the death of many of them. SS General Walter Dornberger, the guy we talked about, about the V2 rocket, who had used 10,000 slave laborers from concentration camps for the construction and operation of their rocket site, he was the first.

22:30 to be assigned to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, at the time called Wright Field. And guess where he ends up? He ends up at Bell, Bell Helicopter. He was the chief lobbyist for Bell Helicopter during the Johnson administration and the Vietnam War. That's also where the Paynes, Ruth and whatever her husband's name was,

23:01 He worked at Bell Helicopter. He actually knew this Dornberger guy. He worked in the same area. We had Nazis working at Bell that had a subordinate that was one of the main players in JFK's assassination. Just putting that out there. Another one, of course, a lot of people have talked about is SS Major Warner Von Braun.

23:32 who had headed the rocket program. And he was originally sent to Fort Bliss, Texas, near White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. He worked for Army Ordnance and General Electric, developing the Hermes II missile. He was later assigned to Redstone Arsenal at Huntsville, Alabama. He was directly responsible for the battlefield rocket and the Jupiter IRBM.

24:05 By July 1960, NASA acquired von Braun's team to form the nucleus of the Marshall State Flight Center at Huntsville. And there he was responsible for several other things. He left NASA to become the vice president in engineering development of Fairchild Industries in Germantown, Maryland. Kurt Debus, D-E-B-U-S, was responsible for using concentration camp prisoners.

24:39 from DORA, a slave labor camp for the B-2 factory. He later became the first deputy director of the Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral for NASA. Kurt Blum, who established the Biological Warfare Research Center for Himmler and exposed concentration camp prisoners to plague by inoculation. I wonder if that's where they got their idea for all these vaccines.

25:09 was acquitted of war crimes at Nuremberg in 1947 and brought to Camp David, Maryland. He was quickly hired by the U.S. Army Chemical Corps to work on biological warfare. Major General Walter Schreber, who assigned doctors to experiment on prisoners and funded the projects, was brought into the country and put to work at Air Force School of Medicine at Randolph Air Force Base.

25:39 Arthur Rudolph, Director of Operations at Mittelwerk, where 20,000 workers died from starvation, beatings, and executions, was a member of the Nazi Party since 1931. So I'm going to say that he wasn't the Nazi Party and not really affiliated. He was hired by NASA and assigned to work on the Saturn rocket program.

26:09 Luftwaffe Colonel Hubris Stronghold, who was the wartime head of their Institute of Aviation Medicine in Berlin that conducted all of those freezing experiments, killing people, was to head the new Air Force School of Aviation Medicine at Randolph Air Force Base. Two years later, he was placed in charge of the Department of Space Medicine. Hans Ternet.

26:40 who worked as a professor at the University of Kiel in conducting those freezing experiments as well. He was not only a member of the Nazi party, but for other Nazi organizations. So I'm going to say he was a little bit more than tangentially related to the Nazi effort. He was brought into the U.S. Army's chemical warfare arsenal at Edgewood, Maryland to work in toxicology.

27:15 how many experiments they've conducted on the military since bringing the Nazis in, in Unit 731. But theirs was not isolated just to the military. They experimented on civilians in Los Angeles as well. Frederick Hoffman, who was a chemist and had synthesized poison gases and toxins, was sent to Edgewood to work on poison gases as well. Conrad Schrafer

27:46 the German desalinization expert who had experimented with means of converting seawater into drinking water. That resulted in two experimental programs, including force-feeding treated seawater to inmates at Dachau, killing several. He was brought into the U.S. to work at Stronghold, a school of aviation medicine. There were hundreds more in all.

28:15 Over 1,800 former Nazis and at least 1,700 documented dependents of those Nazis were brought into the United States. Most of them were never seen at Nuremberg. The covert community had discovered that only three things had to be done. You had to clean their file of any incrimination, classify his case.

28:46 at a security level high enough so no one outside the intelligence community could ever see it, and put your stamp of national security on top of the folder. Conrad Schrafer, for example, had been a defendant in Nuremberg, but the Joint Intelligence Director, Colonel Daniel Ellis, recommended his immigration to the State Department and told them that the Joint Intelligence had investigated his background and found no crimes.

29:19 Wernher von Braun, originally evaluated as a dedicated Nazi in his file, noted, subject is regarded as potential security threat by the military governor. He received a new security evaluation that said, quote, no derogatory information is available on the subject. It is the opinion of the military governor that he may not constitute a security threat to the United States, unquote.

29:48 So no problem with just changing the files. Author Rudolph's file was even worse. He was described at his first evaluation as being 100% Nazi, dangerous, a security threat, and they suggested internment. But once they got done doing their new dossier, it said nothing in his records indicate that he was a war criminal, an ardent Nazi,

30:19 or otherwise objectionable, 100% Nazi to not Nazi, with the stroke of a pen. Major General Walter Schreber, whose file noted that he had assigned doctors to experiment on prisoners and had handled the funding for those projects, was presented to the State Department with a clean bill of help. No mention was made of the evidence presented against him at Nuremberg.

30:48 It would not be until 1952, 1952, when a newspaper reporter, Drew Pearson, publicized the Nuremberg evidence and the true story behind Schreber's war record came to light. He was given a visa and escorted to Argentina. Nazi Siegfried Ruff, R-U-F-F, was less fortunate.

31:17 He was an expert on high-altitude experiments who had participated in the Dachau high and low pressure chambers, resulting in the death of at least 80 prisoners. He failed to reach America, even though sponsored by Colonel Benford of the Army Air Force Aeromedical Center. He was promised a job in America by the Air Force. His chances for clandestine entry were squelched.

31:49 when his wartime atrocities was exposed by Drew Pearson. In Benford's view, the Air Force lost a great man. That's your military colonel saying that. But these cases were the exception. The majority of them had no problem getting into the United States. One of the former directors of the Joint Intelligence said,

32:22 There was no reason to beat a dead Nazi horse. For the intelligence community, it was business as usual with a new twist. The men had participated in various technical programs and they had found a new superpower. Classify it as top secret, compartmentalize it and stamp it with national security. It works every time. Okay.

32:56 Chapter five talks about the Galen organization. And because we covered this so many times, I'm not going to cover it for this book. He doesn't understand what Operation Sunrise is, nor does he know anything about Operation Gladio, which we all know about.

33:24 So I had to write lots of notes in the margins on this. And he doesn't really add anything new to our conversation about it. But he does talk about a couple of very interesting aspects. He does recognize that the OSS was sending, according to his number,

33:55 5,000 Nazis to other places around the world. And he does make note that they went to South and Central America to include Argentina, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador, among others. And he does mention Joseph Mengele and Kloss Barbie. And he attributes James Jesus Angleton.

34:23 with most of that work because they were using, if you guys remember, Italy and the Rome Station, which is where he was as part of OSS, to do the rat lines as well as Spain. So he does mention that. And that's pretty much it. So that gets us up to chapter six.

34:51 Now, chapter six gives us a little bit more in depth about what they were doing at the Edgewood Arsenal. And then it goes into MKUltra in the chapter seven. So we're gonna save that for tomorrow because those really need to be done together.

35:18 And we can probably get through chapter eight as well because it talks about Operation Monarch and the Finders case. And he does have some very interesting information about that. So we're going to save that so we can do that all in one show. So we are going to break right there. And let me get Bridget back up here. She keeps falling out on me. Okay, so go ahead, SR.

35:53 Thank you, Colonel, and thank everyone for attending here on Spaces and on Rumble. I'm reading some of this stuff that, while you were going through the book, looking at some of these camps and what was going on in them, and I just, I'm sorry, I refuse to post anything about it. But, God, I can't for the life of me understand how anyone could sanction that.

36:26 I really can't. It just blows my mind. So to me, the important part about this is, I mean, we obviously know that they've been experimenting on military people for a long time. I mean, back to the Tuskegee experiments. When you bring somebody into your country that has demonstrated the perversity,

36:58 of experimenting on humans as if they, I mean, worse than animals, these experiments. We're talking like in the case of 731 with the live autopsies. These people don't belong among the general population. They don't belong, they don't even belong in humanity. They should have been strung up.

37:27 These people cannot operate in normal society because they're not normal. No normal person would ever do anything like that. And not only was our government completely aware of the atrocities that these people committed, they brought them to live in your neighborhood. I still can't get my head.

37:56 I mean, we've seen this over and over and over again with them bringing the assassins into the United States when they have a change of leadership in a country. This is a perpetual cycle of them bringing the dregs of society that belong at the end of a rope into our country to live among us. Go ahead, Bridget.

38:25 The one that really got me, and this was during our research, when we were researching a lot of these books and backing everything up, and that was when they weren't, to put it in perspective, they weren't just importing people to work in laboratories and continue their research. They actually had one of them that we came across as an instructor.

38:56 as a celebrated instructor at an academy in our country. Yeah. So they weren't just like, okay, well, we need to figure out what they were doing, you know, so we're going to bring these people over or we're going to, you know. They were promoting what they were doing. They wanted to make it bigger and better and run with it. And that was what just sickened my heart.

39:26 That'd be the best way of putting it. Well, and in the case of the one guy, you know, if the occasion occurred, and he wasn't the only one that was discovered after the fact to be, the U.S. government just ferried them right out of the country and found them a new home. And most likely, the CIA continued to pay them. Oh, yeah, no doubt. I mean, that's...

39:58 You know, and it is something that is, if you have followed any of the news, you see is still being perpetuated. How many times are they finding Iranian military leaders' family in California? Or certain, what is the one? God, they just found recently the whole family of the biggest terrorist network.

40:28 living out in Southern California. You know, had been for 20 years. Was not a new thing. It just shows you how this is still going on. They're bringing them here. They're getting them comfortable and using them for their own nefarious purposes. I'm all pro-America. I'm all pro-America all the time. But I'm...

40:56 The CIA needs to be buried under nuclear waste. And this, you know, to that point, this isn't just the CIA. Truman knew about it. The State Department knew about it. Senior military officers knew all about this. And they condoned it. They actually are the ones that facilitated this happening.

41:25 Just let me say this about the military piece of this. This is the problem that you have. You have junior military people that were in intelligence in the counterintelligence corps in Germany. The guys that rode up and found cells and bodies, those were NCOs. Those were junior officers. And they watched as these prisoners were segregated and that these known

41:56 Nazi scientists were treated very differently and protected by senior military officers. And they were all sworn to secrecy. And you want to talk about breaking down the very fabric of the military when you are watching the senior leadership do these types of things.

42:26 talking about, bragging about von Braun, you know, being this illustrious developer of rockets and capabilities. And for the rest of their lives, they know that that man was a Nazi. They know what the experiments were that they were doing over in Germany because they saw it with their own eyes. And I can't even imagine knowing that.

42:56 You know, that's why every time we, the patterns are so recognizable as we went through the journey and as we continue to rehash the journey and we go through it and we go through it and you pick up little, it's like your brain starts really kicking in to where it's recognizing the patterns. And as soon as you see headlines like the one where 23 people were going to bomb and then shoot up the UFC event, boy, this just sounds.

43:26 Awfully familiar. I'm just saying. Right. You know. You just. And you realize. We are against an evil force. But this is not outside of our country. Well what's interesting about that. Is they obviously. Were able to intercept the communications. And find that cell. Right. Because they're seeing the same pattern we are. They're not unaware. So that it makes you wonder.

43:56 How all of those other domestic terror events were allowed to be perpetrated. Exactly. Exactly. And going through this, you also realize, even if I didn't know the whole Building 11 or Building 7 or whichever one it was, or 9-11, you know, looking at it, you realize, okay, when they're picking up a heartbeat of a guy who's playing, okay.

44:24 You put all the pieces together and you have to ask yourself in a logical perspective, aside from the fact that when a plane hits a building, the building does not fall. Right. And that there are pieces of the plane left. You have to ask yourself, this fits a pattern. Right. And to have this happen unknowingly. Is impossible. Yeah. Is impossible. Right. And even back then, I have to say one thing.

44:57 Even back then, when this whole thing happened, the one big tip-off to me that never set well was when they were able to use their phones to call. And I'm like, no, you can't. Back then, you know, it was impossible. Right. And I'm like, they must have gotten it wrong. They must have gotten it wrong. And then it just kept perpetuating. I'm like, this doesn't...

45:26 But you're not allowed to ask questions because then you become a conspiracy theorist. Right, right. I wear it with my tinfoil hat. Yep. SR, go ahead. I guess what bothers me most out of all of this is it continues today. We know it does. And we do nothing to stop it. Well, I don't know that we're doing nothing to stop it now. They did stop that terror attack on that.

45:57 fight. That was why I wanted to point that out. They are thwarting them now, which means that they are using that technology to monitor these groups. Does that mean that they're going to get all of them? No, but they have the capability to monitor these communications and find these cells.

46:24 So I wouldn't go so far as to say they're not doing anything about it. It's obviously they're doing something about it. I think what I would say is that I don't agree with a lot of the narrative that is being spun out. And I wonder why they're doing it. I made a post a few minutes ago before we started the show.

46:50 about this latest arrest in North Carolina of a guy that, according to the DOJ, is the leader, commander of two different organizations that are basically gang-like organizations, terrorist cells in Brazil. But according to Brazil sources, which I found on Yandex,

47:20 They're arch enemies. So how can he be the commander of both of them? If they're like bloodletting each other whenever they see, they're like rival, they're like the bloods in the crypts. So again, I don't know why that you would say that because for people who live in that area, Brazil and the surrounding countries, they're kind of looking at us going, what?

47:50 It makes me wonder what's going on in the background. Travis, go ahead. I was just going to say in the committee files that allegedly investigated MKUltra, it specifically mentions that Walter Reed Army Institute of Research started MKNaomi as the Army counterpart at the same time as MKUltra started.

48:22 And I don't know, I have no evidence that it ever stopped. I haven't seen any. I do know that in 1981, they conducted Project 375X, which resulted in a 100% death rate of 165 men and officers.

48:48 Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry, assigned to the 1st Infantry Division. Okay. They all died within five months. All of their bodies were marked, contents unviewable, and all of their families were told they died in a training accident. That's all. Okay. SR?

49:17 I'm with you, Colonel. And just to follow up on what you said, I'm wondering as well, because we know for a fact that what really goes on here with the drug cartels and everything else in past history is who do you want to be kingpin today and why? So you take out other pieces of it, but the rest of it, the core of it really doesn't go away.

49:46 And this is what's bothering me more than anything else looking at what's happening today. I see us in the U.S. right now being able to stem all the people coming across the border, being able to stem some of the other things that are going on. I'm just hoping and praying that what we're not going to wind up with is one huge conglomerate, if you will, that's centralized to the point.

50:19 that people fall in line and go with it. That's my concern. I don't want any of it. Right, right. I would argue that we've had that all along. The controlling mechanism was the CIA. They were embedded in local police departments, which we've demonstrated. They also...

50:50 controlled or worked in collusion with the DOJ, like during the 80s, where they had that non-prosecution agreement that whenever the CIA would identify one of their operatives, that the DOJ would not bring charges. So I think that centralized organization has operated here for decades.

51:19 What I see happening is a takedown of that capability. And we've talked about it before. Once you secure the border and you give the powers to the new commanders that are in these different, like South Com and North Com and those people,

51:48 A lot of that has changed because they're working from the ground up in busting all of these networks and the arrests of these, call it what you will, gangs or basically the narco terrorists that are here in the United States are being picked up. There's lots of evidence of that. And they're also attacking the money laundering piece of it. They can't operate without being able to.

52:16 launder that money somewhere. So I feel fairly confident that there is a plan that is being executed. It's just not if you don't understand the background of it to the extent that we do. I don't think most people see that. But you're racing against the clock in order to do this. But taking out the big chunks of it,

52:47 is definitely being done as far as I'm concerned. What happened to Bridget? Why does she keep falling out? Okay. If no one else has anything else, that will bring this to a conclusion. And like I said, tomorrow we'll have an action-packed

53:20 agenda to get through probably three of the next chapters in one session. Again, I will go quickly through several of these chapters because the information we've covered extensively before. But I think you have to go with the general flow of the book in order for us to get to the end. Obviously, his point

53:48 is that the government, through the use of classification and the labeling of things national security, when they certainly have nothing to do with the security of our country, is a mechanism that he discovered in researching this broad array. And again, the chapters are short and he's giving us just kind of the highlight view of these.

54:17 in a particular order to make his conclusive point at the end that there's a lot of nefarious players, which, of course, we've documented for the last four years. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. Turk New York does have an interesting question. He asks, how do you bring in assets from the cold? And in my opinion, right off the top, the first thing I would say is, one, you rat line them. We know that.

54:47 Two is typically a prisoner exchange or something of that sort. So any thoughts you have on that, Colonel? How do you do what? Bring in an asset from the cold. So what we've discovered, I'll just give you kind of a brief overview. For example, when you are.

55:15 conducting a regime change in a foreign country. And let's go to 1956-ish in Indonesia. There was a lot of operatives that they had co-opted in the Indonesian government. There were operatives that are indigenous to the country. And in order for the regime change that they had,

55:45 attempted in the late 1950s, it failed. They lost one of the bombers. It was discovered the pilot was American. The whole thing fell apart. And there was enough of loyal military that was able to counter the operation that was loyal to Sukarno.

56:14 One of the things that they do is they exfiltrate their operatives that are from the country of Indonesia. And they're traitors to their country if they're left there. And some of them are. They're rounded up and killed because they're traitors. And those people that are exfiltrated.

56:36 are either taken to a foreign country where other operations are going to be conducted, that they may need people that look like that other country. And that was one of the benefits of them creating all of these stay-behind assassins and terrorists in the Philippines, that you can then use them in that theater. So some of them are brought back to the United States and they tend to...

57:06 bring them to particular areas. Like the Hmong people were brought to the Midwest and settled there. And then a lot of them in the Oakland area of California. So you have these kind of camps set up where they can support each other. But they're trained to do these terrorist type operations. And a lot of them were left on retainers.

57:33 And there were networks set up. So if you needed someone that looked like they belonged in the Vietnamese area to do an operation, they'd just go to those communities and activate the people that they had already trained. So that's how they do it. They did the same thing with the Cuban exiles. They had people in the Batista government that was totally corrupt.

58:02 And they had the elite landowners that had worked alongside the mafia and the CIA during the Batista regime. And when Castro overthrew it, they just exfiltrate them to the United States and they set them up primarily in New York and Miami in that case. This is done repeatedly.

58:25 Over and over again, the same thing happened in many of the different areas. It happened in Nicaragua when they lost Nicaragua to the Sandinistas. Somoza was brought to Houston, Texas. A lot of those people were brought to LA, we found out, and San Francisco and Miami. And that's how the whole Contra network was set up, was people that they had exfiltrated from Nicaragua.

58:54 that had been working with the CIA, trained at the School of Americas, and they just bring them and plop them down in the United States. And then when you need somebody to operate in South America, that's your pot. You just keep going back to that pot of trained people that you know already what that...

59:15 Every particular asset is capable of doing what they were trained to do, whether they're an explosive expert or a sniper or whatever. You have a laundry list of people that you can activate at any time to deploy around the world. This was done with the Gladio cells throughout Europe. You had the people like Delachey, who was used in a lot of the Portuguese.

59:43 and the Spanish former colonies because he had traveled there multiple times. He was very aware of the terrain and they just continued to use them. They used the Turkish guys in the Gray Wolf units to go into Middle East and do all kinds of crap. And the same thing is true like when you had the Chesnia.

1:00:11 the instigators of the Chechnya rebellion were leftovers from the Mujahideen that had been associated with the CIA. These people are kept basically in a stockpile and they can just pluck them out and use them wherever they want. They use them in the whole Bosnia thing. A lot of what you see on the news as to operations in

1:00:40 countries is made to look like it's an organic uprising when in fact it's not organic at all. All they've done is pull from this repertoire that they have of assets and use them. And they'll use them on domestic operations as well. That's the whole purpose of writing Operation Northwood, where they propose to use Cuban exiles, dress them up as Cuban soldiers.

1:01:07 and blame Castro for blowing up buildings inside the United States. I hope that answers that question. Thank you, Colonel. Sure. Obviously, the problem that I have with that scenario is that they're plopping these explosive experts down in our neighborhoods, and we have no idea.

1:01:30 We're told by the State Department they're given a visa, and we think they're just some indigenous person that was subjected to some type of retribution, not knowing that the retribution was an uprising of primarily nationalists in a foreign country to take back their country, and the CIA is just bringing all of their assets into our country. And we found...

1:01:59 a document, I saw the document that allowed the CIA, they are given a few hundred, I don't know what the actual number that they actually bring back, but they have a covert line of visas from the State Department that they can bring anybody into our country with no vetting at all. The CIA has the authority to issue visas covertly to people.

1:02:27 and bring them into the United States. That's been documented in several of the books that I've read. And that's how they get these people in. And of course, they sanitize their background, as we just saw demonstrated here, where they just rewrite the dossier and take out all of the negative stuff. And until you get an actual investigative reporter like Drew Pearson, who comes along and goes, yeah, no, he really was a Nazi.

1:02:59 And then you do the research and you find out, yeah, the army actually documented that he was a Nazi. And then they changed the documentation. That should bother everybody. Because at the end of the day, we have no idea as we live here today, who's actually in our country and what their background. Because you can't trust the CIA or the State Department to document any of that. Or even the senior military people that were involved in it.

1:03:33 There you have it. All right. So tomorrow we're going to talk about MKUltra, Monarch, and The Finders. So I will see you guys all tomorrow. Thanks for being here.

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Claims made here

James Collins discovered Dachau book_quoted ▶ 4:11

“In addition to the 20,000 people that were lost, died, being overworked, malnutrished, and all of that stuff. Collins goes to the head of his movement to the designated location. And what he finds is …”

Harry S. Truman endorsed Operation Paperclip book_quoted ▶ 7:51

“But it didn't take long for people in the Joint Intelligence Committee and Exploitation Branch under the Army GT-2, as well as the Joint Intelligence Objective Agency and the OSS, to change those plan…”

Walter Schreiber worked_for Albert Speer book_quoted ▶ 13:34

“Further searching produced people responsible, like SS Brigadier General Walter Schreber, who had been in charge of chemical industry under Albert Speer. He was located in a detention camp. General Wa…”

Boris Pash headed ALSOS book_quoted ▶ 14:01

“This led researchers to virtually every chemical weapon expert in the Third Reich. In search for the Nazi nuclear physicist responsible for Germany's efforts towards an atomic bomb, a team headed by L…”

Eugene von Hagen worked_for University of Strasbourg book_quoted ▶ 14:31

“The team was codenamed ALSOS. They discovered major biological warfare research base located at the University of Strasbourg. They found evidence that the university head of biological warfare researc…”

August Hirt worked_for Nazi Party book_quoted ▶ 15:01

“Other professors at the university had performed similar chemical and biological experiments on human subjects. Chief among them was SS Representative Professor August Hirt, H-I-R-T. He provided the h…”

Kurt Blome worked_for Heinrich Himmler book_quoted ▶ 15:34

“that they experimented on. Hitler's chief of biological warfare, Kurt Blom, B-L-O-M-E, who had constructed the first biological warfare laboratory at the personal request of Heinrich Himmler. Himmler,…”

Sigmund Rascher worked_for Kinki University book_quoted ▶ 17:08

“The Germans experimented on cold. Basically the same thing. We don't need to go into it. They did basically the same thing. Under the guidance of Professor E. Holzlauner of Kiel University, several do…”

Hubert Strughold headed Luftwaffe book_quoted ▶ 18:13

“Most of the aerospace medicine experiments came under the auspices of Colonel Hubris Stronghold, head of the Luftwaffe Institute for Aviation Medicine in Berlin. The investigators later determined tha…”

Dean Acheson sent_memo_to Harry S. Truman book_quoted ▶ 20:22

“presidential directive to get these people into the United States. In August of 1946, Acting Secretary of State Dean Atkinson sent a copy of a memo, the memo that said you can't do it, and basically a…”

Walter Dornberger recruited Nazi Party book_quoted ▶ 21:51

“of saying there's none here while actually bringing them all in, even though they knew the majority of them had not just been involved. They were the responsible for the death of many of them. SS Gene…”

Walter Dornberger assigned Wright-Patterson Air Force Base book_quoted ▶ 22:30

“to be assigned to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, at the time called Wright Field. And guess where he ends up? He ends up at Bell, Bell Helicopter. He was the chief lobbyist for Bell Helicopter durin…”

Walter Dornberger worked_for Bell Helicopter book_quoted ▶ 22:30

Wernher von Braun headed Nazi Party book_quoted ▶ 23:01

“He worked at Bell Helicopter. He actually knew this Dornberger guy. He worked in the same area. We had Nazis working at Bell that had a subordinate that was one of the main players in JFK's assassinat…”

Wernher von Braun assigned Redstone Arsenal book_quoted ▶ 23:32

“who had headed the rocket program. And he was originally sent to Fort Bliss, Texas, near White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. He worked for Army Ordnance and General Electric, developing the Herme…”

Wernher von Braun assigned Fort Bliss book_quoted ▶ 23:32

Wernher von Braun worked_for NASA book_quoted ▶ 24:05

“By July 1960, NASA acquired von Braun's team to form the nucleus of the Marshall State Flight Center at Huntsville. And there he was responsible for several other things. He left NASA to become the vi…”

Walter Schreiber assigned Air Force School of Medicine book_quoted ▶ 25:09

“was acquitted of war crimes at Nuremberg in 1947 and brought to Camp David, Maryland. He was quickly hired by the U.S. Army Chemical Corps to work on biological warfare. Major General Walter Schreber,…”

Kurt Blome worked_for Army Chemical Corps book_quoted ▶ 25:09

Arthur Rudolph member_of Nazi Party book_quoted ▶ 25:39

“Arthur Rudolph, Director of Operations at Mittelwerk, where 20,000 workers died from starvation, beatings, and executions, was a member of the Nazi Party since 1931. So I'm going to say that he wasn't…”

Arthur Rudolph worked_for NASA book_quoted ▶ 25:39

Hubert Strughold assigned Air Force School of Medicine book_quoted ▶ 26:09

“Luftwaffe Colonel Hubris Stronghold, who was the wartime head of their Institute of Aviation Medicine in Berlin that conducted all of those freezing experiments, killing people, was to head the new Ai…”

Hans Ternet assigned Edgewood Arsenal book_quoted ▶ 26:40

“who worked as a professor at the University of Kiel in conducting those freezing experiments as well. He was not only a member of the Nazi party, but for other Nazi organizations. So I'm going to say …”

Frederick Hoffman assigned Edgewood Arsenal book_quoted ▶ 27:15

“how many experiments they've conducted on the military since bringing the Nazis in, in Unit 731. But theirs was not isolated just to the military. They experimented on civilians in Los Angeles as well…”

Conrad Schrafer assigned Air Force School of Medicine book_quoted ▶ 27:46

“the German desalinization expert who had experimented with means of converting seawater into drinking water. That resulted in two experimental programs, including force-feeding treated seawater to inm…”

Daniel Ellis recommended_immigration_for Conrad Schrafer book_quoted ▶ 28:46

“at a security level high enough so no one outside the intelligence community could ever see it, and put your stamp of national security on top of the folder. Conrad Schrafer, for example, had been a d…”

Drew Pearson exposed Walter Schreiber book_quoted ▶ 30:48

“It would not be until 1952, 1952, when a newspaper reporter, Drew Pearson, publicized the Nuremberg evidence and the true story behind Schreber's war record came to light. He was given a visa and esco…”

Siegfried Ruff sponsored_by Benford book_quoted ▶ 31:17

“He was an expert on high-altitude experiments who had participated in the Dachau high and low pressure chambers, resulting in the death of at least 80 prisoners. He failed to reach America, even thoug…”

Drew Pearson exposed Siegfried Ruff book_quoted ▶ 31:49

“when his wartime atrocities was exposed by Drew Pearson. In Benford's view, the Air Force lost a great man. That's your military colonel saying that. But these cases were the exception. The majority o…”

Walter Reed Army Institute of Research founded MKNaomi guest_asserted ▶ 47:50

“It makes me wonder what's going on in the background. Travis, go ahead. I was just going to say in the committee files that allegedly investigated MKUltra, it specifically mentions that Walter Reed Ar…”

Walter Reed Army Institute of Research carried_out_attack Project 375X guest_asserted ▶ 48:22

“And I don't know, I have no evidence that it ever stopped. I haven't seen any. I do know that in 1981, they conducted Project 375X, which resulted in a 100% death rate of 165 men and officers.…”

Fidel Castro overthrew Fulgencio Batista host_asserted ▶ 58:02

“And they had the elite landowners that had worked alongside the mafia and the CIA during the Batista regime. And when Castro overthrew it, they just exfiltrate them to the United States and they set t…”

Drew Pearson exposed Wernher von Braun host_asserted ▶ 1:02:27

“and bring them into the United States. That's been documented in several of the books that I've read. And that's how they get these people in. And of course, they sanitize their background, as we just…”