The Colonel's Corner The Great Pretense Part 6

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0:00 Okay, welcome everybody. Please share out the space. We're going to go ahead and get started. I only have about an hour today. So we're going to kind of breeze through. I'll do our lesson for about 45 minutes and then we'll have a brief question and answer session. But I did want to make a comment. I was thinking.

0:28 last night about the fact that this book used so many references to personnel issues, having a large amount of experience in personnel. I do believe from a researcher's perspective, that's an untapped treasure trove of information. Because if you understand

0:54 how these things work. And believe me, I had it done to me. So I'm very familiar with how they work. The propensity in a bureaucracy to silence people who won't go along with an agenda is to take personnel, derogatory personnel actions against them. And so it would only make sense that when that is done to someone that they file suit.

1:26 once they're fired. While you're still an employee, you have to go through the EEO process and that type of thing. And that is much more difficult to get copies of. But it does make a lot of sense that if there are lawsuits in courts where you can actually request to get the transcripts from them, that that's an untapped.

1:54 treasure trove of information, because they normally use the personnel system, again, I know, to get rabble-rousers out, so I just wanted to say that. All right, so where we stopped was dealing with the corrupt

2:19 Latin America, Miami office that was trying to do some good and the Colombian offices that kept thwarting them. The author goes on in a new section called Another Puzzle Piece and said, despite the U.S. Justice Department's basically ignoring the camp memo and the charges of corruption within the DEA and the CIA and the FBI,

2:50 That evidence continued to come out that connected some dots. He says that the most recent was a DEA Office of Professional Responsibility final investigation report that he obtained through court pleadings. The document, along with the DEA PowerPoint presentation and the Araguan memo.

3:16 All are included as exhibits in the litigation file. And it was in a court case in Miami with Sadalio Gonzalez, which was a former high-ranking supervisor in the DEA Miami office. He happened to be Tensley's supervisor. After Bogota, DEA Chief Erdogan.

3:42 Fired off his memo about the Vega extortion scheme, Gonzalez also was made a target of the ensuing criminal investigation launched by Tensley, Castillo, and Gonzalez's immediate subordinate, Special Agent in Charge Ernesto Perez. Gonzalez was an associate special agent in charge of Miami.

4:09 at the time of the Cali Man operation, but was far up the chain from Tensley, so he wasn't mentioned in this memo. Gonzalez was targeted in a criminal probe, he claims, in retaliation for raising questions about what was going on. Quote, he made me a target to retaliate against, Gonzalez said. There is no documentation anywhere that says I did anything wrong, yet there I was, the target of a criminal investigation, unquote.

4:41 The case that Gonzalez says made the DEA ticked off at him involved a large quantity of cocaine that turned up missing following a November 98 search of a suburban Miami house by the DEA Miami-Dade police. In the aftermath of the search, the evidence surfaced that indicated some of the law enforcers carrying out the raid might have been.

5:08 involved in the disappearance of 10 kilos of cocaine. After he began pushing for an investigation into the missing cocaine, Gonzalez found himself the target of a series of actions of his supervisors that he claims was designed to intimidate, embarrass, and ultimately make him shut up. Gonzalez subsequently filed a complaint against his supervisors and their actions.

5:39 He ultimately ended up in a federal court in Miami as a result. In addition to suffering retaliation and harassment, Gonzalez says in his lawsuit in January of 2001, he was transferred involuntarily to the outpost at El Paso, Texas, which is that major center they use that has that database that tracks all of these people.

6:10 Or don't. The criminal investigation launched in the wake of Aragorn's memo targeting Gonzalez, Perez, Tensley, and Casillo went nowhere. That's because Vega's extortion scheme was not a criminal plot, but actually turned out to be part of a government-sanctioned cover story. Vega collected up to $100 million from narcotics by some estimates.

6:42 that he claimed. At any rate, when he was brought up on tax charges, the government found only $1.5 million in his bank account. Where'd the rest of it go? After the criminal probe in the Vega case was shut down, the DEA, Office of Professional Responsibility, continued to pursue all the other people that had questioned the operation. That ended up

7:17 the investigation into the operation went nowhere. The internal investigation led to agents Tensley and Castillo being suspended and later fired by the DEA. After a very long multi-year fight, they had to reinstate them in 2004. So they were able to prove that they were retaliated against.

7:45 In Tensley's case, a judge ordered the DEA to put him back on the job with back pay plus interest. Gonzalez also was eventually victorious in his lawsuit, where the documentations related to Calumian and Vega investigation was filed as evidence of the DEA's efforts to retaliate against him. The DOJ ultimately, in 2007, coughed up almost half a million dollars in our taxes.

8:14 to settle that case. So there's no downside for them. They can fire people at will and then use our tax dollars when they eventually lose in court if somebody's lucky enough to be able to prove what they're saying is true. Gonzalez was transferred to El Paso in 2001, where he served as chief of the DEA field office at a border town until 2005 when he decided to retire.

8:49 There was also an incident while he was in El Paso where a U.S. attorney in San Antonio, Johnny Sutton, and a DEA administrator, Karen Tandy, conspired against him as well. That cover-up was hatched after Gonzalez sent a memo to his counterpart at ICE expressing outrage over the role that ICE officials and U.S. prosecutors in El Paso

9:19 played in allowing a dozen people to be tortured and murdered in a Mexican border town of Cuenadad, Juarez. The drug war tragedy has since become known as the House of Death. Chapter 17, The Devil's Cartel. Baroque Vega had been working as an asset for

9:53 the FBI, the DEA, and the CIA in Colombia, as well as elsewhere, for many, many years. Vega was very involved in several U.S. law enforcement operations during the timeframe of 1999 to 2000. Supposedly, they were looking for narco-traffickers in Colombia's North Valley cartel.

10:20 Vega claims that corrupt U.S. agents that were part of what was called the Bogota connection revealed in the Kent memo seriously compromised his role as an asset, adding that a number of his informants and cooperating sources in Colombia were assassinated as a result. So the author had an opportunity to dig up some information.

10:52 When Vega reached out to him for the first time in March of 2006 to provide his assessment of what the author had been collecting on the Bogota connection. That was in the immediate aftermath of him writing about the Kent memo. Vega claims he was used by several U.S. law enforcement agencies at the same time to infiltrate and identify key figures in Colombia.

11:24 As a result, Vega contends that he had intimate knowledge of all of the corruption that was mentioned in the Kent memo. Vega told the author that between 1997 and 2000, the FBI and DEA each employed him as an informant in separate investigations going on in Columbia and that he worked as a counterintelligence officer in the CIA or asset would be a better word.

11:55 He also claimed that he discovered the operations were being compromised by current players in the DEA and U.S. Customs. U.S. Customs was involved in targeting Colombian narco traffickers during the same period that Vega was working for the CIA, FBI, and DEA. Vega claims that U.S. Customs did have access at one point to much of the information about the informants and cooperating sources in the North Valley.

12:27 area vega alleges that agents in the dea office in bogota as well as someone within u.s customs was leaking information about ongoing law enforcement investigations to key players of the colombian national police vega says that the colombian national police were aligned with the very same narco traffickers that they supposedly

12:56 were investigating, which is something that we came across repeatedly in this research, is that the government officials, US government officials, will leak this information so they can either move their labs or not be there or whatever. They're tipping them off. In the wake of the information being leaked in Colombia from US sources, there were gun battles.

13:28 The author uses the word bloodbath. Massive amounts of assassinations as a result of the narco traffickers finding out through U.S. officials who were their informants. Vega told the author that he had at least three contracts on his life that he was aware of. He goes on to say, quote, almost all of the people in my group.

13:59 that were cooperating sources and informants are now dead, unquote. He says also that if they are lined up in the right way, it becomes easy to understand. It's a matter of putting the right players in the right place. So what he was portending to the author is he was the source that was able to do that. He went on to describe a thing he called the devil's cartel.

14:32 This so-called Devil's Cartel was an alliance of the North Valley cartel traffickers, many of them former Colombian national police officers. You know, the ones I saw on the steps at Fort Benning? Yeah, those guys. Along with some of people that were currently employed as national police in Colombia. He named the senior.

15:06 corrupt national police officer as Colonel Danielo Gonzalez. That also included alleged alliance with the paramilitary forces ran by Carlos Castano under the AUC, which was working hand in hand with the CIA. The intelligence arm of the devil's cartel, according to Vegas, is composed of

15:37 U.S. federal agents with U.S. Customs and DEA. Notice he leaves the CIA out, but we're talking intelligence. The goal of the Devil's Cartel Alliance was to protect the narco-trafficking business. And this basically is the business that they took over from Pablo Escobar after they assassinated him. So all of this sounds great. He's got an inside source.

16:15 That happens to be a CIA asset, so he's very leery about listening to Vega's story. Law enforcement sources had told the author that Vega was in a position to know a lot of things, which is precisely why so many U.S. agencies were relying on him. And Vega does contend that he has evidence of the DEA and Customs corruption, evidence he says he also placed in the hands of the FBI.

16:48 Vega claims the U.S. government has failed to act on any of it. He also went on to say that as a result of an April 2003 meeting that he had with this corrupt National Police Colonel Gonzalez in Aruba, and that the meeting was sanctioned by U.S. officials. At the time, Gonzalez, the corrupt National Police Colonel, was in the sights of the U.S. government for his...

17:18 activities and was willing to discuss cooperating with U.S. officials. Vega claims that during that meeting, Gonzalez laid out the entire backbone of the Devil's Cartel, naming names. He also, supposedly according to Vega, told him the names of the DEA officers and U.S. Customs who were assisting the narco traffickers.

17:46 Vega says all of the information from that meeting with Gonzalez was turned over to the FBI. He suspects no action was taken on the corrupt charges because it involved naming DEA and Customs Authority. Vega says one of those cases was brought in Miami courts against Rodriguez or Orgelio Brothers, alleged founders of the Cali cartel.

18:16 If the alleged corrupt DEA and custom law enforcement officers were now exposed, Vega contends, the cases they helped make against the narco-traffickers could be threatened because defense attorneys would say the evidence was tainted. But we know how they suppress that evidence. What isn't clear is what role the CIA played. He was very careful about that.

18:48 The agency is basically a black box, according to Vega. Yeah, so we'll leave them out. One possible explanation for the alleged Bogota connection corruption is that U.S. law enforcement and intel agencies, such as the CIA, were part of a sanctioned operation designed to prop up the North Valley cartel. Yes, it is possible because we know they like to consolidate.

19:20 these cartels into ones that they control. There was one case that came about that involved the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico, according to court filings in Chicago, that involved senior Sinaloa cartel leaders and narcotraffickers in 2013.

19:50 reached a plea deal with federal prosecutors. That's their favorite because then they can silence all of the material. That case involved a rising Mexican Sinaloa cartel, Don Vincente Zambata Nebula. He was the son of El Mayo Zambata Garcia.

20:22 who together with a business associate, El Chapo, led the Sinaloa organization. El Chapo was eventually captured and extradited to the U.S., where in 2019 he was convicted of multiple narco-trafficking charges. El Mayo was arrested by U.S. authorities in 2024 after being kidnapped under mysterious circumstances in Mexico and flown into the United States.

20:53 U.S. officials have stated emphatically that they were not involved in his capture, just receiving him. Mexican soldiers arrested Zambada Nebla in late March 2009 after he met with DEA agents in a Mexico City hotel, a meeting that was arranged by U.S. government informants. That was also a close confidant of El Mayo.

21:24 and El Chapo. That informant was Mexican attorney, Herberto Loya Castro. By the U.S. government's own admission in court pleadings, he served as an intermediary between the Sinaloa cartel leadership and U.S. government agencies seeking to obtain information on rival narco traffickers. Isn't that convenient? Quote,

21:56 Toward the end of June 3rd, 2005, the informant, Loya Castro, signed a cooperation agreement with the U.S. Attorney in Southern District of California. That affidavit filed in the Nebla case by Loya Castro's handler, the DEA agent, Manuel Castanon. Here's a quote from it.

22:25 Therefore, I begin to work with the confidential source. Over the years, the confidential source cooperation resulted in a seizure of several significant loads of narcotics and precursor chemicals. The confidential source cooperated also resulted in real-time information that was very useful to the US government, unquote. Notice they don't say who in the US government. According to Nebla, however, he and the rest of the Sinaloa leadership

22:55 Through the informant, Loya Castro, negotiated a quid pro quo immunity deal with the U.S. government in which they were guaranteed protection from prosecution in exchange for ratting out all of their peers. The alleged deal assured protection of the Sinaloa cartel business by all of the people that are supposed to be trying to find the drugs.

23:20 At the same time, the information provided by the Sinaloa cartel to the U.S. agencies against their rivals assured a steady flow of drug busts for headlines in U.S. media. It was Bengon Zoli who initially told Vega that his DEA handlers were leaking information out of the U.S. embassy in Bogota, according to Vega.

23:49 He claims Tensley wanted evidence of the leak. So Vega says that Borgonzoli, in 1999, arranged to purchase information from the U.S. Embassy. He was supposedly getting it on behalf of that Colonel Gonzalez. He says that Gonzalez was able to obtain the information from his DEA contacts at the embassy and turned it over to Borgonzoli, who in turn brought it to DEA Tensley.

24:22 That file obtained by Borgonzoli was a record of the intelligence gathered by the CIA in Colombia of some 200 narco traffickers. Vega said it was the original file. I think it was a record of all of the investigations the CIA had done over the previous period of time, like six months to a year.

24:46 Vega says the file contained detailed information of the narco traffickers, including phone numbers, addresses, family trees, and photographs. The Kent memo, if you remember, also alleges that corrupt DEA agents in Bogota were leaking classified information to the narco terrorist. So that kind of adds up. According to Vega, the DEA whistleblowers

25:13 made startling revelations concerning the DEA agents in Bogota, which is exactly what the Kent Memo says. They alleged that they were assisted by the narcotics activities of the Bogota agents. Specifically, they said that the agents provided them with information on investigations in law enforcement.

25:38 Law enforcement sources who spoke to the author also confirmed that a U.S. embassy file was leaked to Borgonzola. So far, so good. In the wake of carrying out his work for the U.S. government, the same government accused Vega of taking millions of dollars from narco traffickers in exchange for promising to help them negotiate lighter sentences. So here comes the hook.

26:07 The Kent memo makes essentially the same allegation about corruption within the ranks of the US law enforcement that Vega is bringing forward. The DEA agents, including Tensley, who sought to expose the alleged corruption, were all accused of being corrupt themselves. And if you remember, the one was even accused of being a pedophile. Vega, too, was never convicted of a crime for his alleged corruption scheme.

26:35 which it turns out was a US government sanctioned cover story. Rather, the government was only able to stick Vega with a misdemeanor charge for failing to file accurate 1998 tax returns on time. So we may also find that Vega is not the corrupt deceiver that the government accused him of being. He may in fact have been telling the truth.

27:05 Vega claims he had extensive experience working and cooperating with the U.S. government. So, okay. Colombian Fabio Oca, one of the founders of the Medellin cartel, seems to have believed that Vega was a CIA operative. Well, he was. He was an asset for the CIA. Prior to his sentencing in 2003 on cocaine smuggling charges, according to the Associated Press,

27:35 Oka's defense team sought to access sealed records, including those involving Vega. This is hilarious. Listen to this. The defense is asking the trial judge for a closed-door hearing to get access to classified papers on Iran-Contra and on a millionaire drug informant, Baroque Vega.

27:58 In the request, a review of classified materials, the defense said it wants to know whether longtime DEA informant Baroque Vega had CIA ties as the co-defendant was claiming, unquote. Also, a U.S. judge, if we're to believe them, said there is no doubt that Vega was an in-demand inside player for the U.S. government.

28:33 In the wake of reporting the leaks, Tensley found himself the target of internal DEA investigations himself. He was suspended and eventually fired, as we've said already in the book. Tensley, in the lawsuit seeking his job back, claimed the charges against him were bogus. He brought up a claim of wrongful termination.

29:01 As we've said before, it was basically ruled in his favor. The judge ruling in the case includes some very specific details about the activities of this mysterious Vega, who had built a successful career. On the side of being all of these confidential informant people, he was also a high-profile fashion photographer. Those details confirm that the DEA, FBI, and CIA

29:30 was willing to use Vega in operations targeting narco traffickers in Colombia. And that was basically his cover for access to all of these elite people is that he was there taking their pictures. Also in that court case, this is a quote, Baroque Vega has been a source of information for several law enforcement agencies, including the FBI and DEA, because they're not allowed to say the CIA.

30:01 Additionally, the return of Mr. Orlando Sanchez Cristacho to the U.S. was an extremely high visibility operation within DEA. Witness after witness testified that Mr. Cristacho was a major Colombian drug kingpin and that his surrender to the DEA was a major coup. The principals involved had numerous meetings and the appellate DEA group supervisor.

30:32 David Tinsley, coordinated with Mr. Cristancho's surrender with numerous authorities within and without DEA to include the CIA and U.S. Attorney's Office. Indeed, the appellate, Tinsley, used the CEA to bring Mr. Cristancho to a chartered aircraft without going through Pandemonium Airport security or customs.

31:02 Assistant U.S. Attorney and various DEA agents from Group 9 were at the Fort Lauderdale Airport to greet the plane. Note, the use of a chartered plane was one of the main charges brought against Tinsley to fire him. So the CIA arranged for a charter flight and then the DEA used the use of that charter flight as evidence.

31:34 that Tinsley had done something, spent US government money unauthorized when he was told that was the only way to get him out of the country. That was a charge that they used to fire the good DEA guy in Miami. The appellate Tinsley testified that at the request of the FBI, he wanted the bare minimum of a paper trail for Mr. Vega. Both the DEA and FBI used Vega as a confidential source. This is in the...

32:05 the legal findings. The FBI specified that Vega would be a non-testifier. That is, he would never be used to testify in any criminal trials. This status was necessary because Vega was called an FCICI, Foreign Counterintelligence Service Confidential Informant, who had been brought in by the CIA. As the appellate put it,

32:37 quote, I'm having my agents cut him out every chance I can. I don't want him documented. I don't want him in our case file any more than we have to, unquote. Again, this is still in the court papers. The trips to Panama at issue here were confidential source recruiting trips. The plan was for Mr. Vega to introduce Special Agent Lawrence Castillo, a DEA agent working under Tensley, to drug traffickers and then get out of there.

33:05 So that he would be in no position to have to testify regarding the conversations, if any, that took place. Again, this is that entire operation that they were trying to set up. All sanctioned by the bosses and the bosses' bosses. For that reason, it was Appellate Tensley's judgment that few DEA reports were required regarding Mr. Vega because Vega was a non-testifier. His activities did not yield investigative leads.

33:37 And as stated previously, at least one classified DEA cable was prepared and was kept under lock and key in the Miami Special Agent in Charge safe to safeguard the information because it had Vega's name in it. So he was definitely not the run of the mill kind of guy. And then the author goes into a polygraph test area.

34:11 that involves this same case that I'm just going to read you a couple of quotes from the leaked documents of the report of the DEA polygraph. During the interview with the DEA inspector and confidential source, who was also a narco-trafficker, stated that over the last few years, they had been able to obtain between 60

34:39 50 and 60 documents from the DEA Bogota country office at will. This is in a polygraph. This is not a new revelation to us as we met with DEA Miami group supervisor David Tensley on January 2000, whereas Tensley related to us that he had a confidential source that was obtaining documents from inside the DEA's office and had shown him the original.

35:11 documents, not photocopies, unquote. This, of course, is exactly what the Kent memo says. The DEA report on the polygraph tests that the author obtained indicates that a confidential source did admit to receiving those reports. Classified information being passed to narco-traffickers.

35:36 The polygraph report states that the DEA performed a lie detector test on the confidential source and asked how he came in possession of the DEA classified documents housed at the American Embassy. The confidential source stated that the DEA agent in Bogota was the one that provided the documents. The lie detector indication was he was not lying. This is a quote from the polygraph. The confidential source

36:07 states that he or she had been to the DEA office in many instances, sometimes alone and sometimes with a name redacted, who is reported as being a Colombian National Police Captain and a member of the Sensitive Investigative Unit, which is a part of the Colombian National Police.

36:33 The confidential source knew the layout of the office very well. The confidential source had drawn a detailed map of the embassy on the inside, indicating he knew everything about it. And again, no lie detected. Further in the polygraph report, quote, I suggested that the way to find out with certainty whether the DEA agent or...

37:05 the Colombian office, was involved in any way in this situation was to conduct a specific test about him. At this point, I could not discount the suspected DEA agent leaker's involvement in the matter. It goes on. The confidential source related to...

37:28 related to another confidential source, Perez, the following events regarding the document in question. The confidential source stated that sometime during the middle of November 2002, redacted, the name of the guy in the DEA office, requested his presence at his office. The confidential source was escorted through the American embassy to inside the DEA offices to a redacted office. At that time,

37:59 The DEA agent showed the confidential source a document containing names of other confidential sources with their addresses, phone numbers, where they were working. The polygraph examination was to determine the veracity regarding the source of this information. Again, no lie detected. So we're going to stop right there. So obviously that's all true.

38:30 about the DEA office in Bogota passing classified information to known drug traffickers to keep those known drug traffickers, which they were working with and supposedly on their payroll, they were getting kickbacks from the whole thing. The guy took a lie detector test and passed the lie detector test for whatever that's worth.

38:58 There's a little bit more about the embassy leaks and the CIA in the next couple of chapters. And then we move on to our next part, which we'll talk about cocaine planes. And we're not gonna have a show tomorrow. So that will be,

39:30 on Friday, but we'll be able to get through this next section of the book. And I think as fast as this book's going, we'll be done with it next week, maybe before the end of the week. But it's fascinating. And yet just another kind of rubber stamp on, from a different source, different sets of facts, different reference material, i.e. court filings.

39:58 that everything that we have learned is in fact true, that this happens. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel, and thank everyone for attending here on Spaces and Rumble. I find it rather funny and ironic that what really happened here when they couldn't get Vega, sick the IRS on him. Well? What did we just go through? Right.

40:29 Right. So it shows you kind of in a very nefarious way, a whole of government that the comment of Chuck Schumer that they have six ways to Sunday to get you, that they will use all of them, all levers of power when they come after you to get you. Very well stated.

41:04 Yes, yes, yes. All of this stuff is. I see Warhamster out there. I just want to let you know, Warhamster, we're going to get to your part of the story on Permadex tonight. So hopefully Alpha will be able to start the show at nine o'clock. But yeah, we have some very interesting material to cover tonight at...

41:36 nine o'clock on the Alpha Warrior Show. That's going to tie into a bow a whole bunch of different things. Some of the material we went through when we did Whitney Webb's book, but this is actually putting it in somewhat of a different context that I think you guys will enjoy, especially since we know so much more now than we did when we went through Whitney Webb's book. You'll find it very entertaining.

42:04 connect a lot of pieces. Did you have something you wanted to say, Warhamster? Not really. I don't have much today. I'm deep in research for a Friday show. Oh, okay. Yeah. I thought I'd tune in, see what you're working on this week. Just, you know, the same old stuff. CIA, drug trafficking. So for those of you who are not aware,

42:53 back when we were doing Cynthia Chung's book. And they have cropped up over time as we've exposed other pieces of this, the Pilgrim Society, for example, the London School of Economics. We ran across the Rhodes Scholars through some of this research. And it's like Warhamster and I have said,

43:21 that going back as we did with Skull and Bones and laying the foundation and showing all of those tentacles, it gives you another element to understand the depth of what we're dealing with when now as a tool, you can, where did they go to school? Who was their mentors? What secret societies did they belong to? And so-

43:48 That show, the whole purpose of it is to highlight them, go through the characters that are involved because then what you find is they pop up in so many different stories that are all related to Gladio on the government side, the business side, the...

44:12 all of the different players in these groups. Like we're going to talk about the World Wildlife Fund tonight and the 1001 Club, which again, two years ago, we covered that. We did an entire book on the World Wildlife Fund and how they were using some of their designated nature preserves as terrorist training camps. So again, it's all intertwined.

44:38 And that's why I laugh when people come on X every day saying, where's all the rest? Where's all the rest? They have literally no idea how big this octopus is. They have no idea what the tentacles are. You can't just go around starting arresting people without all of the documentation to substantiate that. And more importantly, it has to be done in a particular order because

45:07 As you start arresting people, you are going to get more information and confirmation as you move up the chain. Well, I was having flashbacks when you started down that WWF drill. Yes. Yes. Yeah, we'll be able to tie a few bows together tonight. Hopefully, we'll get to that point. There's a lot of material. And it reaches into so many.

45:43 As a matter of fact, I'm going to, I hopefully before nine o'clock, I can get this other post out. Did you know that there was a BCI before BCI, a BCCI? I've come across this bank, but in an article I was reading, every other article that I had ever seen the name of this bank, and I'm not gonna remember it off the top of my head,

46:14 name. I had never seen it abbreviated. And I saw the abbreviation BCI and I saw the dates of the bank and I'm like, oh, they wouldn't have done that, would they have? I believe they did. Isn't that insane? And I'll present the evidence on why I think it was the precursor to BCCI.

46:46 And it was shortly after this whole Gladio thing gets started. And its original headquarters was in Switzerland. And it has some of the same players. And I'm like, oh my gosh, are you kidding me? And then you look at when it went out of business. It went out of business.

47:16 Two years after BCCI started and was able to get their whole operation up. And then this one just fades away with the same, almost identical freaking nomenclature. I mean, literally, it's almost the same nomenclature. It's so funny because, you know, they do that all the time and it just drives me nuts.

47:43 Because they'll get caught with their, normally it happens whenever they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Or they know they're going to. Yeah, they did. And they start up a company almost exactly the same thing. Transfer everybody over and then go, oh, look at that. In fact, there's been times during that journey where we found the newly created company was the one who actually reported on the old company. Yeah. It's just, there is no.

48:12 It's all theater. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. I'm going to switch subjects here for a second. I was surprised to find Brian come out that hard at you about Cuba. And I thoroughly loved your response. Yeah. It's interesting. Brian gets a little big for his britches every once in a while. I mean, I love him.

48:44 I have an awesome relationship with him, but every once in a while, you know, it's interesting. I love the fact that our account would not be near as big as it is, but you see, and this is not meant in a derogatory way at all. You see that our conversations, and again, we go to dinner every Wednesday night, our conversations.

49:14 has added to his expanded view of what's going on. He added a whole bunch of words to the international syndicate, and that's fine.

49:30 calling them pirates and stuff like that. Because I was trying to explain, I compared the, as Warhamster and I have oftentimes said, the pirates turn into the letter of marquee, which turns it blah, blah, blah. And so, you know, he added his own little flair to it. But he has mentioned Gladio so often because of all of these conversations that we have. But it isn't the first time that he's gotten a little over his skis.

50:01 Um, he, in the areas that he has researched like elections and all of that other stuff, he's what I consider an expert. Um, I run a lot of stuff by him. Um, and we text multiple times during the day. Um, Dwayne, his brother, um, Brian and I, and, um, but he,

50:31 If you're going to, and I don't mean this in the way it sounds, but if you're going to come at me with your opinion of something, then you need to have some facts. You can't just form opinions, especially if you're trying to implicate entities with no evidence. And you guys know that I'm very, very particular about that.

51:02 You guys also know that probably a year into this, when we started doing Operation Condor in our Around the World tour, it was during one of these shows that I went, it seems awful convenient that we've got Cuba in the Western Hemisphere because Cuba is used to justify every single regime change that we did. It's really convenient. Do I have any evidence of that? No, I don't.

51:32 It's very convenient. And I explained to you guys how convenient it is to have Israel and Iran in the Middle East in order to destabilize the Middle East. If you don't have both of those, you know, I was talking to Ghost of Base Patrick Henry earlier today, and that was my analogy. If you're going to do a Hegelian dialect, you have to have two sides.

52:00 Without the other side, the other side collapses. It means nothing. You have to have two sides. And so, yes, it is possible, but there's no evidence of that. So don't come at me and state something as a fact with no evidence when we have a pile of evidence that shows the exact opposite. Am I open to that being a possibility?

52:28 I've actually said it multiple times. I've said that about Iran. If you look at Iran today, it looks like Iran under the Shah. The only difference is they changed the shingle outside from SAVAK to IRGC. But you have to have evidence. I float things out there all the time like that, but I make sure the audience knows this is conjecture. This has no factual...

52:57 But it would be a great idea if you're setting something like that up. So notice the difference. Don't come at me that way if you're just going to make shit up. Warhamster, go ahead. Yeah, that's a fun topic. I also love Brian, and there's a reason for it. When I first met my wife, she was constantly sending me Brian's articles. Brian is really good at connecting dots, and sometimes he connects dots that don't connect.

53:28 He's got a very optimistic view of how this all ends. And sometimes he's right. I mean, he's got a very bright mind. My wife's also the one who introduced the Colonel and I on Too Social, which is the whole reason we started doing shows together in the first place. Yes, your wife is awesome. So that all ties back to Brian, because that's how my wife and I started to realize that we were on the same page of a lot of things. Problem is, my wife's also overly optimistic, or she thinks I'm overly pessimistic.

53:58 and calls me a black pillar. So she goes and reads Brian instead of watching my stuff because he's more optimistic than I am. You know, both Brian and Dwayne are great. I'm very pleased that they're on our team. Yes, me too. I am not criticizing them. I just think he, just as you were saying, he sometimes makes a leap or a connection that may not be there. Correct. And I have, I'm very careful because our show is about

54:29 fact-based history. When I suspect something is true, I'm very careful about saying, I suspect there's a connection there. I just don't have any proof of it. And again, that goes back to pattern recognition. That's exactly what I was going to say, because we see the patterns, okay, this rhymes with something we've seen before.

54:54 Let's see. And then we could start digging deeper. And then we've got a whole team of researchers to help us with that. So that's the case with the post that I'm going to make about these two banks. If you look at what they do, do I have any hard evidence that one folded and the other one sprung up? No, I don't. But I think when you put them side by side, you're going to be thoroughly amazed.

55:21 at how similar their operations were. Well, do your post and I will dig in afterwards using some of my financial tools. Yes, I would love to know what you think about it. It's crazy. Do the post first and I'll see if I can get to it tomorrow. Okay. Bridget, go ahead. I just wanted to throw out there that Brian is also the reason why I hooked up with you online.

55:50 Because it was him reposting your post years ago and commenting on it. And I thought, man, she's on to something. Because every time I'd try and disprove, I thought, this is insane. There's no way this can be true. And I'd research it, and sure enough, there it was. Darn you, Brian. Darn you, Brian. Yeah, right? Brian's caused so much trouble. He is a troublemaker in a good way.

56:20 Hey, Colonel, can I give a quick shout out to the show I did with Doug Gibbs? Sure. We're going through Madison's notes from the Philadelphia Convention. It's a very long, laborious, probably like a 50-week, 50-show series, but it's important to get the bottom of original intent. The show we did today that's up on my Rumble channel really dovetails into exactly what the Colonel and I are talking about when it comes to Fabian socialists and the collectivists and all that.

56:47 So I highly recommend if you ever watch anyone who ever watches one of our federalist shows, today's the day. Cause I really dovetails to exactly what the Colonel and I are doing. And I got a, Doug got super excited when I told him we were doing Fabian socialists. So this is a show. I look, I guess self-promotion is not a sin anymore, but this is the, this is the one you want to see. I got, I got a little excited. No, that's awesome.

57:17 Yeah, I highly suggest everybody watch all of your shows. I know that some of the constitutional shows is hard, but what I say to people is, this is what cracks me up. Everybody wants their government to operate, but...

57:41 don't want to put the effort into educating themselves as to how the government is supposed to operate. So you are not being a good steward of the Constitution if you don't understand the Constitution. You should not only understand the Constitution and what has been done to our Constitution, you should be teaching your children about the sanctity of that Constitution and why it has to be preserved.

58:10 Because only when you understand how the Constitution and the basis for which the history, which makes it such an outstanding document and so rare throughout the world, is that the entire premise of holding your government accountable, which we all talk about, you cannot do if you don't understand what the measure of accountability is.

58:39 And there are people that spend literal years away from their families and going through hardships that they believe is in defense of our country. The least the American citizens can do is supporting them by learning about what makes our country great, not the changes to it that basically...

59:09 rips it apart but what the foundation is all about so that when someone is talking to you in a political speech or whatever you can immediately raise your hand and say that has nothing to do with our constitution and that's exactly what we should be doing in town halls when we go to listen to politicians speak what you learn in the

59:34 shows that Doug and Warhamster do is the level of accountability that when somebody says, oh yeah, I think it'd be a great idea to do X, Y, Z. And then the immediate question should be, well, where is X, Y, Z in the constitution? That's what we should be able to do. And you should be able to do it with a intellect that allows you when they give you some bullshit answer that you can refute their answer.

1:00:03 Well, that's exactly right. And, you know, people always ask me, you know, a lifetime of studying the Constitution, economics and finance, how'd that lead me to secret societies and stuff like Gladio and the CIA? I go, it's exactly because the Constitution got corrupted that these new entities in this corruption was able to form. You want to get rid of that corruption, you have to go back to constitutional principles. And the most basic one, and I'm going to say it for the millionth time.

1:00:32 The only legitimate government is there to preserve your God-given natural rights. Any other use of the government for any other reason becomes corrupted. It will always be corrupted. That's why we don't like the Fabians. That's why we don't like the globalists. That's why I've recently been calling out the Matt Aritz group and the Promethean Action people. They mean well, but all their answers stem from big government.

1:01:01 using powers that it should not have. That power will always be corrupted. It all goes back to constitutional principles and real free markets. So that's how I went from, you know, how the Colonel and I came to the same conclusions, from totally opposite directions, because they all connect, they all meet in the middle, and the corruption, the source of it, is self-evident once you do the homework. Agreed. Agreed.

1:01:29 That doesn't mean that you don't talk to people about these things because that's how you have open and honest debate. And I just had someone contact me that wants to have me on their show. We haven't set anything up. But what I find most often is that there are a lot of people out there that politically I don't necessarily align with.

1:01:58 But there's fundamental things that we all have in common. And those are the people that we want to have conversations. We want to demonstrate that you can have differences and have intellectual conversations without all of the drama that you see on these stupid podcasts. I think if people stuck to principles and stuck to facts,

1:02:27 that you'd have a whole lot less drama involved in our daily life. And it is the drama that generates the emotional response, which is to me the beginning of a psyops. As soon as people resort to emotions, you're in a psyops. That's kind of my golden rule. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. I just wanted to...

1:02:55 To say yes, it's always great to talk to people who view things differently than you do. But there's common ground in everything somewhere along the way. And once you find that common ground, you'd be surprised at how many times there are people who look at it and say, oh, then we're arguing about the wrong thing. So many times. We're really arguing about.

1:03:20 And all the other stuff falls away. Yeah, so many times that is true. Yeah, it's just an amazing experience. And I will tell you honestly, my best friends in life are ones that we have a whole ton of things that we don't agree with, but we love each other and we debate all the time. That's my favorite thing is that knowing that you care about these people.

1:03:50 and having these open conversations of mutual respect. I really miss my calling and not being on a debate team at some point, but I love that interaction because I always come away from those exchanges. I've changed my opinion on a lot of different things, having conversations with people that I highly respect.

1:04:17 And them coming at a particular topic from a completely different, very logical approach. And I think that's why we're all here. You can't have your own set of facts. There are certain facts that are just facts. And you can draw different conclusions from those facts, which is what makes having these conversations awesome.

1:04:46 But anyway, that's really all right. But that's one of my favorite saying has always been reasonable. People can disagree. And the reason we've got such a heated political divide right now is all the emotion that's been thrown in there. We're not always dealing with reasonable people anymore. We're dealing with people that have been manipulated by the one world government people. And that's exactly the Hegelian dialectic.

1:05:14 They've got two sides that are so emotional that you don't get the reasonable debates. So you need to seek them out. The people that disagree with you politically can be reasonable. That's something that we should seek. We actually, that's what we want. Right. It's the emotional stuff that's just killing the debate. I just, while you were doing your show today, I was typing out a retweet of Sheldon Whitehouse, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, who's bragging.

1:05:43 About how they killed the White House ballroom. I don't know if I don't know the status of that or not, but he's taking a victory lap. So I decided to do about, I don't know, a long post on his skull and bones, deep state background. And I just put that out. But these are not people. These are these are politicians out there. And all they do is use the kind of rhetoric that's supposed to sound. It's the trying to inspire emotional responses. And Hakeem Jeffries, every time he speaks.

1:06:11 They don't have a position. It's just emotional rhetoric trying to basically drive the anger of their followers. And that is not healthy. And we need to get past it. And we will not be able to get our country back the direction we want to until this ends. Yeah, you could almost say that the majority of the politicians in office today, and I don't say this in the sense of a movie or any of that other stuff, but they are.

1:06:40 actors in a um scripted um it would be like you're watching them on um some type of theater stage um they don't necessarily believe anything that they're saying they are they're just trying to stir up the tribalist you know emotions and tribal tribalism is you know it's a basic function of humanity unfortunately it's why you root for your hometown football team etc we are tribalist by nature

1:07:10 And they're playing off that. And I think once we step back and recognize that it loses its effectiveness, unfortunately, the media is so blatantly irresponsible that they're part of the division. Well, they're part of the PSYOP. So if you view most of those politicians as pawns in a psychological operation to control our country.

1:07:34 it makes a whole lot more sense. And now we know that they literally have CIA people as politicians. And the CIA agents are trained to do exactly that, to manipulate people. And that is exactly what you're seeing on the political stage is they are conducting a psychological operation for people.

1:08:02 to put them in these camps. And the segregation that goes on as a result of this, the lines that are drawn, that they are drawing themselves, you would never do that.

1:08:19 If you are an actual responsible politician, you would never segregate people into buckets of people and then pit them against each other. That is not healthy for a country. You can have your principled position on something, but what you're hearing today is not anything that's principled, number one, and it's very divisive. And that's what...

1:08:45 cues me into knowing whether or not they're part of this psychological operation to destroy our country. So I did want to, I love this, S.D. Gardner over on Rumble. By the way, in case the colonel didn't know that when she's not on Tommy or Rich show, I think he meant when I am, they are always,

1:09:17 commenting about how awesome, oh, when I'm not on their show. So when they're talking to other people, I see what he's saying, how awesome the Colonel is. I believe it's because she presents facts first. And that's interesting that you say that because I went on Nino Rodriguez's show today and he's very sensationalized. But every time he asks a question,

1:09:44 I take him back in history. And I said, I can't answer that question without making sure your audience knows what the historical setup is for the question. And when we got off the show, he was like.

1:09:59 I love this. I love this. My audience doesn't know any of this history. I don't know any of this history. And that is something that I think is very important that if you go back and you understand the historical setup, which again has everything to do with what's going on today and people mistake when I provide the historical.

1:10:28 background of a particular political situation as being pro or con. I'm not. I am telling you what the background is. You can make your own mind up about what's going on. I'm not read in on any of this stuff. I don't know any more about it. I do think that

1:10:47 And I made that clear today. I do think that if we are going to move the ball down the field, you have to get the players that were in these positions, Maduro being one of them, and bring them in and let them dump on this entire network. There is as...

1:11:05 an equal possibility that he is here for protection as he is here for prosecution. And you can make an argument on any one of those, but he has been on the inside of a network that most people don't have access to. So just take that for whatever it's worth. SR, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. I'm going to give you a heap of praise here because

1:11:34 Had it not been for Rumble and me stumbling across you, I wouldn't be where I am today. But when we started this journey, even on Rumble, your answer was always to anybody who had a question in Rumble, and you went through that chat with a fine-tooth comb, was when they asked about current events, your answer was simply, we'll get there. You need to know the background first.

1:12:06 Well, we got there. So the people who are new and are listening now understand that the majority of us who have been here see it now for what it is. It's not a one-off event. It's not something that you just propped up and they just thought about. No. It's been going on for...

1:12:32 So to SR's point, let me just say this. For probably the first two years, anytime somebody asked me about current events, I said, I don't do current events. I'm concentrated on what our history is. I don't know enough yet to extrapolate our history into current events. Obviously, at this point, we've gone through enough material that I feel.

1:13:00 Like I can give you the groundwork, but I'm still not going to tell you what to think. I'm going to tell you based on patterns what is possible, what maybe even be probable. But for probably the first two years we did this, I didn't talk about current events at all. And every time somebody had me on one of their shows, they're like, well, how does that? I don't know.

1:13:26 I'm just doing the research. I can tell you about what my research is, but I don't know how it pertains to current events. But now, four years almost into this, it is very obvious how some of these patterns have replicated themselves. And we now know enough about the backgrounds of these people doing this research that...

1:13:50 You can literally, in some cases, look at their profiles, where they write, where they offer opinions, organizations they belong to, and you can assess a person by looking at only that information. And I'm talking a lifetime of information. I'm not talking about someone who's fresh out of college. But if there's certain milestones and there's...

1:14:15 career that are very indicative of how they fit into this whole pie. So hopefully that's something that we've been able to provide to everyone to look at things with a new fresh set of eyes and a well-founded historical background that is real, not the shit we were taught in school or listened to.

1:14:42 on mainstream media. And that's the comment that I just made. I love the inconsistency of people's thought. I could never be a psychologist because I'm one of those people that would take my hand and hit them in the forehead. Because some of the things that they say is just totally retarded. I made a post a little while ago, just before the show started.

1:15:12 that I love the people that when they talk about Iran and they try to tell us how great the 70s were there and how everybody looked all prim and proper and it was a westernized society and everything was great. Where did you get that clip from? Where did you get that picture from? Where did you get that video from? Oh, the mainstream media. I thought the mainstream media lied to us all the time.

1:15:41 Oh, they do. Well, did they just start lying to us or have they been lying to us the entire time? You can't have it both ways. You can't throw up mainstream media bullshit that happened 30 or 40 years ago and say, that's definitely true. And then today, the same media outlets are saying, and you say, no, they all lie now. Well, when did they start lying? I don't know, in 1975.

1:16:09 400 of them were on the payroll of the CIA. So I'm thinking they were lying then too. And you go back to World War II, they were lying then too. So that just like is one of the most frustrating things to me. And I tell my husband, it's like, you know, you could have had a V8. You just want to smack them in the head. That's my immediate response. I don't do that though. Well, maybe I've done it a time or two.

1:16:39 And it's funnier than all get out. Yeah, it's so crazy that, and they don't realize they're even doing it, I think in many cases, but okay. All right, that's it for today. We're gonna jump up here, get ready for nine o'clock, everybody. It's gonna be a barn burner. All right, take care, everybody.

Entities here

Baroque Vega25 DEA25 David Tensley15 Sandalio Sandy Gonzalez13 Unknown Book (referenced as 'the book' or 'the author')10 Colombia10 Bogotá10 Miami8 Kent Memo7 Devil's Cartel6 Sinaloa Cartel5 U.S. Customs Service5 Operation Gladio5 North Valley Cartel4 Danielo Gonzalez4 Colombian National Police4 Lawrence Castillo4 Mexico City4 Vincente Zambada Nebula4 El Paso3 Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo3 Herberto Loya Castro3 Bogota Connection3 BCCI3 Iran3 Cali Cartel2 United States Embassy in Bogotá2 Joaquín Guzmán2 World Wildlife Fund2 U.S. Department of Justice2 Skull and Bones2 Araguan Memo2 Orlando Sanchez Cristacho2 Fabio Oca2 Cuba2 Ernesto Perez2 Borgonzoli2 Aruba1 Israel1 1001 Club1

Claims made here

Sandalio Sandy Gonzalez member_of DEA documented ▶ 3:42

“Fired off his memo about the Vega extortion scheme, Gonzalez also was made a target of the ensuing criminal investigation launched by Tensley, Castillo, and Gonzalez's immediate subordinate, Special A…”

David Tensley ordered_assassination_of Sandalio Sandy Gonzalez guest_asserted ▶ 3:42

Ernesto Perez member_of DEA documented ▶ 3:42

David Tensley removed_from_power Sandalio Sandy Gonzalez guest_asserted ▶ 5:08

“involved in the disappearance of 10 kilos of cocaine. After he began pushing for an investigation into the missing cocaine, Gonzalez found himself the target of a series of actions of his supervisors …”

DEA removed_from_power David Tensley documented ▶ 7:17

“the investigation into the operation went nowhere. The internal investigation led to agents Tensley and Castillo being suspended and later fired by the DEA. After a very long multi-year fight, they ha…”

DEA removed_from_power Lawrence Castillo documented ▶ 7:17

U.S. Department of Justice paid Sandalio Sandy Gonzalez documented ▶ 7:45

“In Tensley's case, a judge ordered the DEA to put him back on the job with back pay plus interest. Gonzalez also was eventually victorious in his lawsuit, where the documentations related to Calumian …”

Baroque Vega member_of DEA guest_asserted ▶ 11:24

“As a result, Vega contends that he had intimate knowledge of all of the corruption that was mentioned in the Kent memo. Vega told the author that between 1997 and 2000, the FBI and DEA each employed h…”

North Valley Cartel member_of Devil's Cartel guest_asserted ▶ 14:32

“This so-called Devil's Cartel was an alliance of the North Valley cartel traffickers, many of them former Colombian national police officers. You know, the ones I saw on the steps at Fort Benning? Yea…”

Colombian National Police member_of Devil's Cartel guest_asserted ▶ 14:32

AUC member_of Devil's Cartel guest_asserted ▶ 14:32

U.S. Customs Service member_of Devil's Cartel guest_asserted ▶ 15:06

“corrupt national police officer as Colonel Danielo Gonzalez. That also included alleged alliance with the paramilitary forces ran by Carlos Castano under the AUC, which was working hand in hand with t…”

Danielo Gonzalez member_of Colombian National Police guest_asserted ▶ 15:06

Carlos Castano headed AUC guest_asserted ▶ 15:06

DEA member_of Devil's Cartel guest_asserted ▶ 15:06

Devil's Cartel succeeded Pablo Escobar guest_asserted ▶ 15:37

“U.S. federal agents with U.S. Customs and DEA. Notice he leaves the CIA out, but we're talking intelligence. The goal of the Devil's Cartel Alliance was to protect the narco-trafficking business. And …”

Vincente Zambada Nebula member_of Sinaloa Cartel documented ▶ 19:50

“reached a plea deal with federal prosecutors. That's their favorite because then they can silence all of the material. That case involved a rising Mexican Sinaloa cartel, Don Vincente Zambata Nebula. …”

Joaquín Guzmán member_of Sinaloa Cartel documented ▶ 20:22

“who together with a business associate, El Chapo, led the Sinaloa organization. El Chapo was eventually captured and extradited to the U.S., where in 2019 he was convicted of multiple narco-traffickin…”

Miguel Ángel Félix Gallardo member_of Sinaloa Cartel documented ▶ 20:22

Herberto Loya Castro spied_on Sinaloa Cartel documented ▶ 21:24

“and El Chapo. That informant was Mexican attorney, Herberto Loya Castro. By the U.S. government's own admission in court pleadings, he served as an intermediary between the Sinaloa cartel leadership a…”

Herberto Loya Castro member_of Sinaloa Cartel documented ▶ 21:24

Sinaloa Cartel traded_network_to U.S. Department of Justice documented ▶ 22:55

“Through the informant, Loya Castro, negotiated a quid pro quo immunity deal with the U.S. government in which they were guaranteed protection from prosecution in exchange for ratting out all of their …”

Borgonzoli spied_on DEA guest_asserted ▶ 23:20

“At the same time, the information provided by the Sinaloa cartel to the U.S. agencies against their rivals assured a steady flow of drug busts for headlines in U.S. media. It was Bengon Zoli who initi…”

Danielo Gonzalez spied_on DEA guest_asserted ▶ 23:49

“He claims Tensley wanted evidence of the leak. So Vega says that Borgonzoli, in 1999, arranged to purchase information from the U.S. Embassy. He was supposedly getting it on behalf of that Colonel Gon…”

DEA covered_up Bogota Connection guest_asserted ▶ 26:07

“The Kent memo makes essentially the same allegation about corruption within the ranks of the US law enforcement that Vega is bringing forward. The DEA agents, including Tensley, who sought to expose t…”

Fabio Oca member_of Medellin Cartel documented ▶ 27:05

“Vega claims he had extensive experience working and cooperating with the U.S. government. So, okay. Colombian Fabio Oca, one of the founders of the Medellin cartel, seems to have believed that Vega wa…”

Orlando Sanchez Cristacho member_of DEA documented ▶ 30:01

“Additionally, the return of Mr. Orlando Sanchez Cristacho to the U.S. was an extremely high visibility operation within DEA. Witness after witness testified that Mr. Cristacho was a major Colombian dr…”

David Tensley recruited Orlando Sanchez Cristacho documented ▶ 30:32

“David Tinsley, coordinated with Mr. Cristancho's surrender with numerous authorities within and without DEA to include the CIA and U.S. Attorney's Office. Indeed, the appellate, Tinsley, used the CEA …”

Lawrence Castillo member_of DEA documented ▶ 32:37

“quote, I'm having my agents cut him out every chance I can. I don't want him documented. I don't want him in our case file any more than we have to, unquote. Again, this is still in the court papers. …”

David Tensley member_of DEA documented ▶ 32:37

Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps succeeded SAVAK host_asserted ▶ 52:28

“I've actually said it multiple times. I've said that about Iran. If you look at Iran today, it looks like Iran under the Shah. The only difference is they changed the shingle outside from SAVAK to IRG…”