The Colonel's Corner Spooks Part 3

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4:39 Okay. I also find it very interesting that not only did Wild Bill Donovan send this guy to Yale, but he sent him there specifically to study Malayan language. And what happened right after World War II in Malaysia? Well, the British went into Malaysia and did the pre...

5:09 Vietnam Phoenix program in Malaysia. So everything about this author, Lauren Adelson Singer, is very interesting to include his time in the OSS. And then he goes on to write a book that's called Parallax View.

5:36 I mean, the bookends of the movie was interesting with the Senate being the all-Senate being starting the movie and closing the movie with, we've spent months and months of researching and investigating, and we've determined that it is a lone gunman that's absolutely crazy that did this.

6:06 But we're not going to take any questions and you'll be able to see the information later. It was perfect bookends as the entire movie illustrates the actual conspiracy. Also, Colonel, what I especially like about the movie is the way the fake politician dude gets popped in a political rehearsal.

6:33 And, you know, what the whole movie does with the concept of political rehearsal, especially when you look at the MKUltra film that the Warren Beatty character was watching. I mean, if you look at that film, it's all juxtaposition of opposites. Yes, the whole thing was. Yeah.

7:03 country versus city opposite, Catholic versus Protestant opposite, Jew versus both of them opposite. It's just fucking with the idea of the opposite over and over, and then you realize that that MKUltra screen test that he's taken with his fingers on the mechanisms as the test to be allowed into the Parallax Corporation, an obvious, again, private corporation CIA cutout because they're the same thing.

7:33 It's just, it's really our elections writ large. Yes. The whole country is being effing MKUltra. Yes. And if they want to take out anybody, they will take them out, whether it's a gunshot or scandal or whatever. So yeah, it's, it was a great movie. So thank you for that suggestion. Okay. To the lesson out of the book, Spooks.

8:01 What we're going to talk about today is, again, I have to remind you that this book was written in 1978. So the author is talking about the different ways that this entire apparatus that we were just talking about spies on everything and how these trained intelligence operatives are.

8:33 Embedded in corporate America and his larger point under industrial espionage was that they use these quote unquote former agents as embeds into to figure out trade secrets and proprietary information. And he gives a whole bunch of information about that. Then his second one was industrial espionage.

9:03 as far as computers go. And of course, that was very rudimentary back then. And then his third was industrial espionage. And he focuses on export control, export import, because of course, we know that's how a lot of this spying and

9:29 technology transfer happens. We read about it when we were talking about Mitch Warbell and him basically having his own import export. And we talked about it during the books that we've talked about with JFK and the importance of Permadex, the basically permanent trade venue that moved around all over the world.

9:54 to get the industrial espionage people together under the pretext of a quote unquote trade show. And the international marts in New Orleans, there was one in Chicago, there was one in New York. And again, it's a network. So that's basically the import export kind of network that we're talking about. But he brings up a particular guy by the name of Charles.

10:24 He was the director of a company called Export Control Systems. And basically, he says that Clemens attempts to work by running what amounts to an international intelligence service because the people embedded in his organization are intelligence agencies.

10:55 And he goes on to say that sanctions are a part of this process, that if somebody had technology that they didn't want put out on the market in free and fair trade that would somehow compromise one of their protectorates, the oligarchs, that they just create havoc in a country.

11:26 to get sanctions put on that country so that they can't export that particular technology. That was a technique that they used. He goes on to say that he could place orders with U.S. firms for strategically rated technology, computer consoles and gear like that.

11:55 he would certify an end user certificate that the product will be resold for a final use in a country or firm that is authorized by the Commerce Department. Now, we found this particular technique when Pakistan was buying all of this dual use technology to build their nuclear program with our tax dollars in that.

12:25 What they do is the country like the United States and in this particular country, it was primarily Germany, the Netherlands and the UK and the Pakistan situation. They know that this technology is dual use. They will allow it to go on until publicly it is discovered it's being used for the other use like nuclear programs. And then they'll go.

12:52 oh darn we didn't know that so we'll slap this um label on it that you can't export it and then there will be a comparable product which they already know about and that will start being bought and then you know nine months a year before some reporter catches on that they're still doing it they're just using this alternative product and then

13:20 After the fact, they come up and say, oh, darn, we well, we kind of knew that, but we didn't know it was being abused. So, yeah, we can't export that anymore. It's just a trick. It's a system that is set up to give the appearance of being legitimate when, in fact, it's not at all the import export. These people know how to get around every aspect of it. So.

13:47 He goes on to say, for instance, following the imposition of an all-out trade embargo by the U.S. against Cuba, a massive black market came into being in Europe and Latin America. And what happens with every black market? Like alcohol prohibition. It gives you money sources in the black market. Do you see the picture now? It's how they actually make money on other things other than narcotics.

14:19 Because Cuba had been virtually a colony of the United States for decades, almost all of its industrial plant had stamped on it, made in the USA. Castro had little choice but to rely on American manufacturing for spare parts. Because of the embargo, he couldn't buy them on the open market. So, of course, that creates the black market. And that itself

14:49 is pretty easy to make happen, the author explains. He says you just simply set up a corporation front in a country like Liechtenstein because Clements, with an assist from the CIA and Cuban exiles, had prepared a list of spare parts needed for every American-made machine in Cuba. These parts were then incorporated by serial number into the Commerce Department.

15:19 as a watch list, and their exports and in-use monitored. To obtain the parts, Cubans had to rely on black marketeers and an extortion fee. That would violate the end-user certificate, accept the consequences, and go out of business if they were caught. Cuba's mechanical needs could never be entirely satisfied even with the black market.

15:52 The Cuban economy continued its downward slope. Similar prohibitions against other countries like Rhodesia have been invaded in much the same way that the Cuban embargo has. In 1973, for instance, three Boeing 720 aircraft were delivered to Rhodesia in contravention of U.S. and U.N. sanctions against the country. The offending firm called overseas holidays

16:22 and aircraft hire limited was identified by clemens agents and suffered the loss of u.s export privileges in 1974 the same thing happened again with another company the evidence is overwhelming that the purpose of export control systems is strategic rather than tactical

16:51 Quote, of course the Russians can get this stuff, unquote, Clemens said. In small quantities, it isn't as much a matter of denying the Soviets or the Cubans a look at secret technology as it is of forcing them to make the goods themselves. In the Russians' case, the prohibition served to make the Soviet Union divert rubles and research expertise away from their military effort.

17:21 In his words, every little bit helped. The bigger threat to their illegal profits are not the efforts of Clemens, but detente and the easing of trade restrictions, which is what's happening now. They can't have detente. They can't have peace. The black market goes away.

17:48 Every embargo lifted and every reduction in the list of prohibited commodities represents a chink in their black market. Okay, he moves on and he says that commerce officials may bring criminal charges that provide for a maximum of one year, like a slap on the wrist. It's almost never pursued.

18:19 Instead, the black marketeer is subject to administrative proceedings behind closed doors at the Commerce Department so they can hide it. He calls it a star chamber. And he also says that classified material may be submitted into evidence, but with withheld from the defense in these private hearings. The accused is virtually without benefit of ordinary due process in these hearings.

18:50 And then the record is always sealed. Since the penalties, the revocation of an export privilege, are of little importance in the business of the black market, if these privileges are revoked, it doesn't really do anything. The offender can simply do business under another name, like what we're seeing right now with the truck drivers.

19:24 Company gets exposed because they're hiring illegals that literally in the same day, they just set up another. And as a matter of fact, many of them that that Danielle woman has found already have like 20 in hold. So they operate under one until it gets taken down and then they go right to the next one. So it says.

19:55 That few countries recognize the export administrative law and violating it, therefore, isn't a crime in any other country. He says that the table of denial and prohibition orders currently in effect is nothing less than an up-to-date shopping list for those on the black market. Getting the list is like having a free advertisement for what they should be able to go and get and offer on the black market.

20:29 Weird how that works. He goes on to say that while some fly-by-night U.S. firms have knowingly carried out illegal transshipments abroad, a far safer procedure is for a foreign-based firm to assume all responsibilities for violating the end-user certificate, which is why in that one book we found that that was all being done in Lichtenstein.

20:56 they were actually forging the end user certificates as it related to bcci and the weapons shipping they were doing it there because there's no penalty there for them to do it on u.s bills of sale he says that if they do that everyone gets paid the only thing damaged is american foreign policy because it doesn't mean the ink it's worth less than the ink on the paper to print it

21:30 He says that in Paris, the number of incidents that he had in the year that he was doing his research was 29 companies that were doing this in Paris. Hong Kong had 24. Lichtenstein had 19 that he could find. He said in London and Vienna, they had 70 and 60.

22:04 local businessmen that were in the industry of these illegal transfers. According to Clemens, the guy that was researching this, London is the number one stopping off point for illegal transshipments of American products to Cuba. Go figure. He goes on to say that in Germany,

22:35 A former Lockheed employee and one-time U.S. intelligence agency secured four surplus airplane wings for illegal shipment to Israel. After coping imaginatively with the problem of secretly transporting these giant appendages out of Germany, the intel agent

22:57 received payment in full from the Israelis. Rather than reimburse those for whom he had bought the wings, he took the cash to the German government and turned it over to them and basically became a whistleblower. All that was missing beside the wings was the smuggler's commission, which he'd earlier subtracted from the Israeli payment. It was not a deal that he could repeat, so he decided just to take his cut.

23:28 and turn the rest of the money over to the German government. He says that a well-organized ring of industrial spies and ex-Intel agents, meaning maybe not, tried to do the same thing with a data issue with IBM that was operating out of Frankfurt, Germany, which was noted as a hotspot for illegal transfers.

24:01 He goes on to say that in 1974, they made an outrageous offer to a small mail order house. In return for camera ready layout plans of an IBM 370 computer, the group would pay 25,000 Deutschmarks, which at the time was about $8,000, or 10 times the going rate of the plans. Alerted to this offer, the U.S. and German agents placed the group under surveillance.

24:32 One night, three days before Christmas, police broke into the offices of a small commercial firm in Frankfurt. There they found two of the men bent over the IBM 370 maintenance manuals. They were ordered at gunpoint to drop what they had in their hands. They were copying the manual.

25:00 One of the spies withdrew a fistful of German currency from his suit, totaling $35,000. Taken to the police station, they implicated 11 others in their ring, including an IBM maintenance man and several contract agents from intelligence services. The agents admitted spending more than a million Deutschmarks on the overall operation.

25:31 None of it made sense. The plans they had bought were commercially available at a fraction of the price. The group or their employers could have rented one of the computers for half the amount of which the spies eventually spent. The IBM 370 computer was already in operation in Hungary, which was part of the Soviet Union, and therefore certainly was available to the KGB or any other intelligence agency.

26:01 The IBM 370 series varies from a one installation to another. If the spies wanted to assemble a schematic dossier on the series as a whole, he would have to examine the manuals for the different installations. And so they believe that that's what they were trying to do is get all of the different variations.

26:27 The author, I'm going to skip down to the next part, says that the NSA and CIA scientists have developed a novel means of bugging computers. And that may have been what they were actually trying to figure out by using the manuals to see where they could put back doors to know whether or not they were being spied on by using those computers.

26:55 He says by monitoring the noise computers make while operating, the intelligence agents are able to read the machine's content. Mechanisms for thwarting such penetrations include counter program, feeding false programs into a machine and constructing a series of architectural baffles around the computer in such a way that the noise can't be monitored from the outside.

27:25 He says the problem with the counterintelligence programs is that those who use the computer must be able to distinguish between real and phony data and must therefore have one kind or another code that goes with the computer. He says while it is expensive, the more prudent course is to invest in a low noise computer and elaborate architectural baffles.

27:56 so that you can protect the information. And interestingly enough, he quotes IBM chief Tom Watson, quote, IBM considers itself an extension of the U.S. government, unquote. Yes, yes, it does. And that's why the IBM computer was used in the Phoenix program, Operation Condor, and everything else, because it is an extension of the government.

28:29 And it gives the government basically a back door to their computer systems that are sold all over. So he goes on to say that they fear publicity probably more than the exposure of their operation.

29:00 He said that U.S. and West German officials learned about this IBM computer ring and that it had successfully breached NATO computers, which is very interesting. He then moves on to mercenaries and brings up Mitch Warbell's friend, David Sterling.

29:32 Now, David Sterling, we come across quite often because he's one of the big heroes in the UK. He's considered a hero. He was the original founder of what they refer to as their commando elite SAS, which would be like our Delta Force. So it says that in the 1960s,

30:06 He undertook to overthrow the government of Libya on behalf of a sheik that was a resident in Switzerland. He said that he used a crew of what you and I would call gladio operators. He says that they were going to bust through the gates and that the mercenaries would blast their way past the guards, freeing the country's most dangerous political prisoners.

30:39 The escapees would then serve as a cadre for their urban guerrilla units. And they then would depose Omar Gaddafi. He gives us another example of these mercenaries, which we call gladiator operators. He said four of them were moonlighting in Dade County deputy sheriffs. Yes, let me say that again. Four mercenaries.

31:20 were sheep dipped into Dade County Sheriff Department, pretending to be deputy sheriffs. And they were going to single-handedly overthrow the government of Haiti in 1960, shooting their way into Port-au-Prince. The deputies successfully took control of one wing and most of the palace.

31:51 palace's exits. Unfortunately, they were unable to grab Papadok, who had barricaded himself in, and could do no more than hold the fort. But they discovered his torture chambers in the process. A battalion of Haitian soldiers massed behind trees and tanks, waiting to learn the fate of Papadok.

32:27 A stalemate occurred, and it says that one of the servants was sent out to buy cigarettes. On his way back, the youth was questioned by a group of generals who wanted to know what the status of the coup was. Told that there were only four people there, the generals rallied their forces and stormed the palace. We never learned what happened to those deputies.

33:02 the State Department wouldn't comment on it. Then he goes on to talk about Colonel Robert Brown, who was a paramilitary instructor in Colorado. I wonder if he was the one training the Tibetans in Colorado Springs. It doesn't say. He said that, let's see, where did it go? That he was working on,

33:44 creating soldiers of fortune to work with Colonel Sterling, the SAS guy from the UK. And the author says that a few months before the Bay of Pigs invasion, the operation was nearly blown when Miami police ordered the evacuation of a rooming house on West Flagler Street. At the time of the raid, the home was serving as the barracks for

34:16 some of the people that Colonel Robert Brown had trained called Soldiers of Fortune, we call them Gladio troops, that were in the pay of Rolando Masferra. He had been mentioned earlier in the book in connection with Warbell and the CBS invasion. Masferra was a Cuban exile leader who early functioned as

34:47 an executor, executioner for Batista. So he's an assassin too. According to police, the invaders were rousted because they'd become notorious in the neighborhood for petty theft. Imagine those cops surprised. Basically, he walked in on a Gladio mercenary stash house. I bet that didn't go well for them.

35:24 He mentions another company that I had never heard of, El Cosmos, K-A-M-A-S Enterprises. It was well known for hiring mercenaries for work in Africa and the Middle East. During 1975, recruiters were virtually swamped with applications of tough guys wanting to go over to be commandos. So he names a whole bunch of people.

35:59 that had done various operations with these Cuban exiles, mercenary groups. I'm not going to go through all of them. But that's the part that I found most interesting. And he then goes through a whole story about Mitch Warbell. But I think we've...

36:31 covered him enough to understand what his um role in this whole thing is with his companies like defense services and he brings in robert vesco and the dirty dozen dea uh embeds and lucien koenig and he moves on to a guy by the name of mike morrissey and

37:02 We talked about him briefly on the Alpha Warrior show. Mike Morrissey was the business partner of Barbara Fox Spindell. She is the founder and co-owner of that BR Fox company that was co-located with the DEA Dirty Dozen. And he talked about the catalog.

37:32 that br fox created and the catalog would soon generate a senate investigation uh devastate what might have been the dea's most important intelligence operation and implicate warbell in including barbara fox spindell and the dirty dozen because it was alleged

38:07 that they had created a new murder ink, which is exactly what they had done. So he goes through a whole story about Bernard Spindel, Barbara's husband. And he's the guy that I mentioned was kind of the brainiac behind all of the espionage tools.

38:36 And that he had used them largely, primarily with Hoffa. He had supported Hoffa and was bugging union halls and all kinds of things like that. He did not want to work with the government at all. And so eventually, obviously, he dies.

39:09 And his wife has no way to support their kids and herself. And that's when she got into the business with the DEA Dirty Dozen and ends up moving in co-located with them. So that's like two chapters of the book. There's a lot of details about that. He mentions the Chicago trademark and how that was bugged to the,

39:39 the nines so that the mafia in chicago knew everything that was going on and what else so spindell was also involved in helping the mafia in operations obviously outside of chicago he was sent trips

40:21 And a lot of his gear was, it's almost indetectable too, because he had some secret way of making it not detectable, like with those harmonica things that we talked about yesterday. So unless it was in use, they were basically not detectable. And so they had access to a lot of the Mafia casinos to rig them up.

40:52 both in suites where all of the rich people stay and in the casino, the VIP particular area where all of the high rollers are. All of those things were rigged with espionage tools. So they had a virtual lock on that type of information. And let's see, what else?

41:23 think that's going to do it for today. That pretty much, because the rest of this chapter talks about Inertel and we did a whole show over on the Alpha Warrior. But, well, we got enough time. This one's very interesting. They actually bugged Capitol Hill. And the way they did that is that he figured out that

41:55 All of the phone lines into the Capitol was truncated into one particular line that ran through a particular building. And they had in between the floors in the building, they had basically spliced that truncated line and was able to tap into this.

42:25 cabling system that handled all of the capital phone calls in the 60s and that was discovered a long time ago well a long time after the fact that it was tapped during a renovation of that building when they were having to reroute the wiring when they were pulling that wire out they couldn't figure out why they couldn't get the wire out

42:54 because it was like supposed to be a straight drop, but they had truncated it off and had tapped into all of the various different lines. And when they started tracing it back up to where they had spliced into it, they discovered that the entire thing had been subject to wiretapping. And that was this guy who was one of the,

43:25 founders that helped out the mafia wouldn't it be nice to know what all of the people in congress was saying off record well he did he knew it all so there you have it all along go ahead we can't hear you if you're talking go ahead sr thank you colonel and thank everyone for being here on youtube rumbling spaces getting to

44:12 The deal with sanctions and what goes on is still amazing today that Russia seems to get what it needs. Iran seems to get what it needs. Everybody seems to get what they need, one way or the other. I don't know what to say about that. All on the black market, and that gives them covert funding. All along, go ahead.

44:45 Yeah, Colonel, can you hear me now? Yep, yep. Okay, you're mentioning the Chicago trademark. Yep. And the mafia connections there reminded me of the New Orleans and Dallas trademarks, as well as, you know, the Twin Towers. Yep. And, you know, we know they kind of function as sort of internationalist lysosomes.

45:15 or destroying domestic sovereignty i hope i'm using that word life so quickly the part of the cell that's meant to destroy maybe not but um you know they they you know before the coup they were already you know bringing in an internationalist you know to replace u.s sovereignty and so it's i saw a book recently

45:41 about the convention centers in various cities, comparing them to, you know, it looked at the elites in these cities and how they got these convention centers passed. And it's just kind of interesting to look at how that may connect with organized crimes to the internationalist syndicate. Yeah, that is interesting. That may be our modern day trademark.

46:13 Go ahead, Warhamster. Howdy, y'all. I'm glad you got off early. I actually get to take off very shortly for my birthday dinner. Oh, well, happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you. It's a real quick funny joke about that. I got a really good friend of mine, a Wall Street buddy. He's just an all-around great guy. He shares his birthday. And about, I don't know, 20 years ago, 2008 in fact, I informed him that someone else shared that birthday, none other than Barack Hussein Obama. And my buddy was totally ticked off. I go, settle down, Troy.

46:45 At least you and I can prove it. That's a good one. That's my birthday joke. I've been telling it for 20 years. It's still funny to me. A couple things. First of all, wiretapping Congress, that would never happen in, oh, I don't know, Jack Smith's day and age. He's going to get called in front of Congress to talk about that, whatever they call that operation. But that's a big no-no. And I think the timing was really funny after the hearings in the 1950s that the intelligence...

47:15 agencies felt that that was a necessary step to take. The big thing is when I came into your show, you were talking about IBM, and I thought it was really good foreshadowing because we're going to be talking about IBM's role and some other major, major corporations in basically financing the Nazis in the 30s and beyond. And a friendly reminder to everybody, it was IBM's punch cards that basically allowed Germany to...

47:41 do the entire roundup, the trains, the concentration camps, all of that stuff, IBM facilitated. And Ford, we know all the companies. We're going to go through this in detail. But not a darn one of them paid a fine. In fact, they got reimbursed by the U.S. government because they inadvertently bombed American plants. So they actually got made whole. No one was ever held accountable. And, well, we're going to go into a lot more detail, but you foreshadowed something we're going to be talking about, I think, in two weeks with our Friday shows.

48:10 So I thought it was interesting that IBM's just operating business as usual. And it is interesting that you see IBM throughout this entire history that we've unfolded, and they're doing the exact same thing every time. They're the infrastructure behind the concentration camps, the people moving, the forced relocations, all of it.

48:37 IBM was there. They were there in Vietnam. They were there throughout in every country in Latin America. They were using their system to manage the dissident population. They produced the hit list that the CIA would leave behind after they overthrew a country containing hundreds, if not thousands. There were thousands on the list when they finished overthrowing Chile's government.

49:06 to assassinate. Those were all done on IBM computers. Yeah, it's a good thing that tech companies today don't work with intelligence at all so we don't have to worry about that computer. IBM plowed that ground. Uh-huh. Renee, go ahead. Hey, happy birthday, Warhamster. I hope you have a great rest of your day and have a cocktail or two. Yeah, regarding this espionage and backdoors,

49:36 et cetera, it kind of makes one wonder if the whole timeline of creating technology, electronics, et cetera, if they were ever allowed to hit the market without being infiltrated with back doors. Absolutely not. Et cetera, et cetera, so forth. Right, right. So it's like what?

49:59 What does not have a backdoor? Everything. Right. Exactly. Exactly. It's crazy. It just expands your mind. If you think that there's anything that hits the market that they don't have an in, all you have to do is go back and read the history of Promise. Promise software from Inslaw was designed to not have a backdoor.

50:30 They stole it from him. They paid people to modify it so it could have a back door. And they then used that and took a version of it and gave it to Israel for them to use. And that's what Robert Maxwell is infamous for selling around the world. That not only tracked everything in the legal system in every country that was part of it.

50:59 I mean, it's like the data system piece of money laundering and judicial process and all kinds of other things that mirrored the crypto AG technology that we talked about that also had a backdoor that went into all of the embassies from every country, 120 of them. And then you layer on top of that ITT that owned...

51:26 I think theirs was like 140 countries their technology was in and in some cases exclusively in. And so they had a total lock, which is why they needed IBM to process all of this information that they were getting through back doors. So when Watson says that they basically were the government, they basically were the government. Why are you so mad? Go ahead.

51:58 Yeah, Warhamster almost made me spit my coffee out talking about how technology today, tech companies today don't have any intelligence in there. I have yet to find one. It's really that invasive. I don't think you could be, and this is just my opinion, I don't think you could be in technology without having some sort of connection.

52:25 to the intelligence apparatus and them getting a hold of whatever you're working on and creating a backdoor or some way for them to see. I haven't found a single one. Promise is the example of that. If you try to put something like that on the market, they will destroy you. Yeah. Yeah. You can't, you can't find a motherboard without a backdoor. And most of.

52:49 The quote unquote tech companies were birthed out of DARPA or Battelle or one of those incubators for technology. So it's given to them with the back door. They just pretend like they created it, come up with some cover story that these magic garages exist. And they did this on their own, which nothing is further from the truth. So, yeah.

53:22 Most of it is created with the back door in it and passed off to somebody that they ran through the, what's the name of it? The, hold on a second. The Parallax program. And they're giving it to, because they're completely controllable. All along, go ahead. Yeah, just, Carl, this reminds me of something that was trending yesterday on Twitter.

53:53 um namely senator cia slotkin of michigan um it was bouncing around again um what i think is a highly significant and telling moment when um in her 2018 campaign she goes to i i think a republican-leaning journalist or somebody who had been quote trailing her on the campaign unquote and she

54:24 in an offhand comment she said something to the effect of how are um leroy and um a second name i it was it was the guy's dog's name oh yeah yeah yeah and yeah and and it's like that that kind of is one of those things like the six ways from sunday comment yes of chuck schumer that it's just like it's kind of like a once every six years moment that basically says look

54:55 we don't just have one or two dead senators or in the case of some of them perhaps dead after a month right right we have we have a dead senate and we have a dead legislative branch because these suckers are paralyzed yeah you know if cia slotkin knows that the name of that guy's dogs what do they not know right you know lisa peace um made the point also directly uh

55:25 quoting West Virginia Senator Rockefeller. I guess that's the, you know, blue collar Rockefellers. But he made something to the effect that he said something about how, you know, look, we can't do anything. The CIA controls has everything completely bugged. That's in her absolutely necessary book, A Lie Too Big to Fail, about the RFK assassination. And it's just like, you know,

55:56 In my opinion, we just kind of have to keep these moments, you know, mobilized and circulating because how are we really going to go for another year of, you know, spending these hundreds of billions of dollars in education budgets teaching a dead Senate? I think people sometimes don't understand the real cost of that as the whole country, you know, graduates another 10 million people.

56:24 you know, blinded by this outdated model of power. Right. Yep. There has to be a come to Jesus point where this is exposed. It is acknowledged that that has been the way that the country has been running and pick up the pieces and move forward because you can't go on living a lie and building a country

56:56 on quicksand, because that's basically what the majority of our history is. It's just a figment, a matrix that you grow up in, and it doesn't exist, not in the way it's portrayed. So, yeah. Renee, go ahead. Yeah, to that point, I saw your response over the weekend to Marco Rubio and

57:24 you know the state department's release of that whole cuba nonsense uh propaganda bs um stuff and and pointing out that cuba is um you know uh like the number one better than kgb with espionage and it's such a psyop because it's like we weren't doing that crap to them full 1 000 times stronger right and i i made that

57:53 point today when we pre-recorded a podcast with Tommy, the correction of posts that the Trump administration puts out there, I noticed there's a lot of people that do it. It's not just the Trump administration, but they pretend like history started in that case on 1 January 1959.

58:21 that everything before that didn't exist, and that everything that existed after 1 January 1959 is absent the CIA piece. So we're only looking at one side post a specific date, not looking at what preceded it and not looking at the other half of it. And again, to all along's point, if you don't have

58:50 a solid foundation and the world didn't start on 1 january 1959 in cuba if you don't have the actual foundation and you expose what that foundation was and then you make a policy for the united states that only tells one side of the post-1959 story you are not building a solid foundation for any policy and

59:19 i would be much more comfortable at this point in time if we're going on transparency that all that comes out because the only way that you have a transparent policy is acknowledging everything that happened not one side of it and not starting in 1959. go ahead renee yeah i totally agree with you um have listened to that

59:50 Video of Rubio talking as as well as dug into it in the State Department's documents and also listen to your podcast. I think it was a week or so ago with Tommy's podcast with the guys. And I think you bring up there's there's some juicy nuggets in there and you brought it up on Tommy's podcast, which is.

1:00:16 Cuba was a node and like Iran and Ukraine and whatever. And especially they bring up, you know, like the Black Panthers and SDS and these organizations that were probably co-opted by the Congress of Cultural Freedom. And so that is brought up.

1:00:43 it's kind of like they're sneaking in on the surface here. Not only we see it as, oh, oh no, Cuba's been spying on us, like no joke, but which impressing, they did it a damn impressing job, I gotta say. But they're bringing up, you know, that Cuba, especially with these co-opted, I mean, there was co-in, what, wait, it was co-

1:01:12 intel pro that's the fbi yeah that was fbi but these organizations and connecting them to the blms and the antifas all of this it's like a slow weasley drip of these orchestrated mk ultrad um social engineered groups that have been infiltrating the world you know and

1:01:39 They all started, first of all, in the United States. They're like blaming it that this happened in Cuba, but they actually started here in the U.S. So there's some little chunks in that Rubio and what he's talking about that I can see maybe it's a preliminary of bringing this to shining the light on this because it's all connected, yeah? Well, first of all, not all of them started here.

1:02:07 You know, the Order of Nine Angles started in the UK. A lot of them start in Western countries, to your point, not just the US. So we'll be fair in sharing all of the dirty laundry. But to your point, I have always approached the Trump administration in a different way. When Trump endorses someone,

1:02:38 I don't take that as what most people believe is an endorsement. I am not ever going to vote for somebody because they have somebody else's stamp of approval ever. It's not ever going to happen. I do my own research and I'll vote for whoever I want. And it's almost like he's forcing people to do that.

1:03:06 The whole thing with Lindsey Graham's sister is just another point. And Mike Lindell, he gets his endorsement and then the next day comes out and says he's in support of amnesty. And so I look at that completely different than most people do. So to your point about dropping nuggets in this, I've seen that all along. And it's almost like they're.

1:03:32 daring people to go back and do their own research and put that information out. And I've always treated it as that. If they're talking about something, I'm going to provide the background of whatever it is they're talking about, whether it's consistent with what their conclusions are or not. It's our opportunity to present information that we have fact checked and know to be accurate.

1:03:57 in the context of whatever it is that they're talking about. And I take every opportunity to do that that I see presented. And I think it's just a way to educate. Now, obviously, we have a much smaller audience than most of these people who drown you out every day. But it is information, obviously, that's getting out because, as Warhamster and I have noted, that a lot of our information not only gets...

1:04:25 picked up and used by other people, whether they attribute it to us or not. And then you hear like you hear Gladio so much more often over the last three years than you ever heard it talked about before ever. And it's not because there wasn't scholarly work done on it. No one in the United States was talking about it. And now a lot more people are talking about it. And so I just take that as.

1:04:54 an opportunity for and why I think it's so important for us to have these learning sessions and present this information because you guys then take it. And that's what I said to Tommy. There's like an army out there now of people that are empowered to do their own research based on the seeds that we're planting. And you guys have been amazing in that regard.

1:05:23 Amen to that. I think it's actually happened more faster than it used to. It took a little while for the gladiator to spread. Heck, we did Fabians within two weeks. Really big accounts are all of a sudden doing the Fabians. We never would have heard. I'm starting to see some pilgrims and stuff like that. The topics we're going to hit over the next few months, it's the same. It's happening faster and faster than it used to. It's important.

1:05:50 real history needs to get out there and i you know we do talk about it you know how people you know steal our homework we're not we don't have to say names right now and stuff like that you know i don't do i don't live to get the credit or anything like that because getting the truth out there is more important than me getting you know the kudos or anything or you getting the kudos but it really is happening we we since we first observed that you know a few years ago it's happening in real time almost yes and that's exciting it definitely makes it worth it so

1:06:19 With that, we're going to close up shop today. And I appreciate you guys all being here. And we will be back tomorrow. So you guys take care. Okay, let's go find somebody to raid over here. That was too intense for me to find it earlier. But I'm sure we will find somebody here.

1:06:57 Let's go down to live and see who we can find. Yikes. Not a lot of them. Let's do this one. Okay. Now I'm listening to myself. All right. There we go. It's doing its countdown. All right. We're golden. There we go. Close that up.

1:08:03 Thanks for being here guys. See you tomorrow.

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William J. Donovan sent_to_study_at Yale University host_asserted ▶ 4:39

“Okay. I also find it very interesting that not only did Wild Bill Donovan send this guy to Yale, but he sent him there specifically to study Malayan language. And what happened right after World War I…”

Lauren Adelson Singer authored Parallax View host_asserted ▶ 5:09

“Vietnam Phoenix program in Malaysia. So everything about this author, Lauren Adelson Singer, is very interesting to include his time in the OSS. And then he goes on to write a book that's called Paral…”

Charles Clemens operated_as Export Control Systems book_quoted ▶ 10:24

“He was the director of a company called Export Control Systems. And basically, he says that Clemens attempts to work by running what amounts to an international intelligence service because the people…”

Charles Clemens headed Export Control Systems book_quoted ▶ 10:24

United States imposed_embargo_on Cuba book_quoted ▶ 13:47

“He goes on to say, for instance, following the imposition of an all-out trade embargo by the U.S. against Cuba, a massive black market came into being in Europe and Latin America. And what happens wit…”

Soviet Union diverted_resources_due_to United States book_quoted ▶ 16:51

“Quote, of course the Russians can get this stuff, unquote, Clemens said. In small quantities, it isn't as much a matter of denying the Soviets or the Cubans a look at secret technology as it is of for…”

Liechtenstein used_for_illegal_transshipments Cuba book_quoted ▶ 20:29

“Weird how that works. He goes on to say that while some fly-by-night U.S. firms have knowingly carried out illegal transshipments abroad, a far safer procedure is for a foreign-based firm to assume al…”

London stopping_point_for_illegal_transshipments_to Cuba book_quoted ▶ 22:04

“local businessmen that were in the industry of these illegal transfers. According to Clemens, the guy that was researching this, London is the number one stopping off point for illegal transshipments …”

Lockheed sold_to Israel book_quoted ▶ 22:35

“A former Lockheed employee and one-time U.S. intelligence agency secured four surplus airplane wings for illegal shipment to Israel. After coping imaginatively with the problem of secretly transportin…”

David Stirling attempted_coup_against Libya book_quoted ▶ 30:06

“He undertook to overthrow the government of Libya on behalf of a sheik that was a resident in Switzerland. He said that he used a crew of what you and I would call gladio operators. He says that they …”

David Stirling targeted_for_regime_change Muammar Gaddafi book_quoted ▶ 30:39

“The escapees would then serve as a cadre for their urban guerrilla units. And they then would depose Omar Gaddafi. He gives us another example of these mercenaries, which we call gladiator operators. …”

David Stirling attempted_coup_against Haiti book_quoted ▶ 31:20

“were sheep dipped into Dade County Sheriff Department, pretending to be deputy sheriffs. And they were going to single-handedly overthrow the government of Haiti in 1960, shooting their way into Port-…”

David Stirling targeted_for_regime_change François Duvalier book_quoted ▶ 31:51

“palace's exits. Unfortunately, they were unable to grab Papadok, who had barricaded himself in, and could do no more than hold the fort. But they discovered his torture chambers in the process. A batt…”

Robert Brown trained_for Bay of Pigs Invasion book_quoted ▶ 33:44

“creating soldiers of fortune to work with Colonel Sterling, the SAS guy from the UK. And the author says that a few months before the Bay of Pigs invasion, the operation was nearly blown when Miami po…”

Rolando Masferrer paid_for Robert Brown book_quoted ▶ 34:16

“some of the people that Colonel Robert Brown had trained called Soldiers of Fortune, we call them Gladio troops, that were in the pay of Rolando Masferra. He had been mentioned earlier in the book in …”

Rolando Masferrer worked_for Fulgencio Batista book_quoted ▶ 34:16

Kamas Enterprises hired_mercenaries_for Middle East book_quoted ▶ 35:24

“He mentions another company that I had never heard of, El Cosmos, K-A-M-A-S Enterprises. It was well known for hiring mercenaries for work in Africa and the Middle East. During 1975, recruiters were v…”

Kamas Enterprises hired_mercenaries_for South Africa book_quoted ▶ 35:24

Bernard Spindel supported Jimmy Hoffa book_quoted ▶ 38:36

“And that he had used them largely, primarily with Hoffa. He had supported Hoffa and was bugging union halls and all kinds of things like that. He did not want to work with the government at all. And s…”

Bernard Spindel involved_with Chicago book_quoted ▶ 39:39

“the nines so that the mafia in chicago knew everything that was going on and what else so spindell was also involved in helping the mafia in operations obviously outside of chicago he was sent trips…”

Inertel tapped United States Capitol book_quoted ▶ 42:54

“because it was like supposed to be a straight drop, but they had truncated it off and had tapped into all of the various different lines. And when they started tracing it back up to where they had spl…”

Ford Motor Company financed_via West Germany host_asserted ▶ 47:41

“do the entire roundup, the trains, the concentration camps, all of that stuff, IBM facilitated. And Ford, we know all the companies. We're going to go through this in detail. But not a darn one of the…”

Robert Maxwell trafficked Inslaw host_asserted ▶ 50:30

“They stole it from him. They paid people to modify it so it could have a back door. And they then used that and took a version of it and gave it to Israel for them to use. And that's what Robert Maxwe…”

Inslaw sold_to Israel host_asserted ▶ 50:30