The Colonel's Corner Spooks Part 2

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0:17 Let me get everything turned on over here on Rumble so we can get started. Oh man, today's been a crazy day. So again, we're not going to do this whole book. There are several things that I want to point out in this book. I obviously have the whole books marked up, but there are

0:48 Some very interesting, and it'll probably take us a couple of shows to get through the first part of this. His first chapter is very enlightening in the material that we've been working on. And he spends the first, let me just walk you through it. I'm not going to do the first couple of.

1:17 He mentions a couple of really interesting firms. Psyonix is one of them and Quantum is another. And I feel it's necessary to put these names out for all of us that are doing this research collectively so that we can kind of put them in the back of our brain. So when we come across them in...

1:47 other books we have reference points for them and basically he spends his first chapter explaining what these different entities are and he spends a lot of time giving us the backstory on Mitch Warbell which of course we already know and he talks about the CBS

2:20 invasion. And he points out that in 1966, Mitch Warbell was a good deal more sober and effective. He starts drinking a lot because he's doing a lot of nefarious things. And he points out the fact that he had been a veteran of OSS operations in Indochina, which of course we know what that means, that he was part of the Paul Helliwell.

2:50 network and all of the people that ends up in the Miami station involved in JFK's assassination, blah, blah, blah. He also mentions Lucien Koenig a lot in this book, but he also mentions Colonel David Sterling, who was founder of the British notorious Tan Berets, an elite commando squadron.

3:22 under the Special Air Services SAS Regiment, which is kind of the counterpart to our Special Forces. And he mentions that they were involved in Kenya, Malaya. And keep in mind, during this time, Malaya was the precursor to the Phoenix program in Vietnam.

3:49 They tried all of the same stuff. They used Agent Orange. They did all of the same things that the CIA did in Vietnam, in Malaya, the British did. He was also in Cyprus, which puts him in position for working with the CIA in the overthrow of Iran, Aden, Oman, and Northern Ireland. And here's what he says about Northern Ireland.

4:21 Ireland, because those of us who've done this research understand that most of the IRA activity was Gladio. It was significantly influenced by operatives to flare up at just the right time that a prime minister needed a distraction or to marshal the forces of Britain, whatever. Here's what he has to say about it.

4:51 But the SAS, the use of their last names, badges of rank is a top secret regiment skilled in both unconventional warfare and intelligence operations, accused of using assassination and torture against the IRA and others. SAS veterans have long been available to Colonel Sterling for service in paramilitary adventures of the ad hoc sort.

5:23 and served widely as mercenaries under various leaders and banners. In other words, they're functioning as part of Operation Gladio, both inside and outside of Britain, which I thought was very notable. He goes on to talk about war bells being involved in the Watergate burglary with Frank Sturgis.

5:55 He says that others who worked with Warbell, such as the Thai Armed Forces Commander-in-Chief, which, of course, we understand that we bought and paid for the Thai government, especially the military and their national police, in order to facilitate the opium trade out of Southeast Asia. He says that he also worked with Walt Mackham.

6:24 a former CIA officer, an expert in international narcotics trade, and a Texas millionaire by the name of Bennett, B-I-N-T-L-I-F-F, Bentliff, described by one former Warbell aide, Kip Smithers, as a person no one knew where he came from and no one knew where he went.

6:57 Just one of those guys that mysteriously appears at just the right time with a lot of money and then fades off into the Netherlands. He also says that he worked with Cuban exile leader Rolando Masferrer, M-A-S-F-E-R-R-E-R, who was known as an international arms dealer, along with Anselmo Allegro and Ken Bernstein.

7:30 also criminals and known to work in the arms trafficking area. And then, of course, he goes on to talk about him being involved in Costa Rica, which was Robert Vesco's area of expertise. He also talks about him being involved in Manila, Bangkok and Singapore, dealing with international arms trade.

8:03 primarily, quote unquote, war surplus. And remember, we've established the fact that one of the major benefits of all of these armed conflicts that the CIA instigates is siphoning off both inbound arms, but in particular, armed surplus at the end of these engagements on the black market. They will buy them in bulk.

8:31 and then traffic them to their operatives using the money on the black market to get like ten to one dollars because they get these surplus weapons at next to nothing which is why we always have some type of conflict going on it's a constant supply moving on he says that mitch warbell

9:05 was in his element in this environment. He was the son of a Russian cavalry officer. He prospered as an international arms dealer and used his talents and contacts in the public relation private detection business. When he went to the airport to meet a visiting general or traveling spook, he would do so in his

9:35 armored Mercedes Benz. And he says in the spring of 66, War Bell was part of a bizarre military operation led by Cuban exiles and Haitian exiles. The extent of what became called the CBS invasion was to overthrow the regime of Papa Doc Duvier, establish a paramilitary base in Haiti.

10:08 and use it as a staging for invasions into Cuba. As with any private war, financing was central. Weapons and transportation had to be arranged, safe houses, blah, blah, blah. Warbell confided details of this plot to a friend of his by the name of Andrew St. George. St. George, being an accomplice of Warbell's, just so happened to work at CBS.

10:40 They made an arrangement, well known to the CIA, that CBS was going to accompany Warbell and film this entire thing. Nothing like having the media there so you can spin whatever story you want. Of course, the entire thing was illegal. And it would then appear that CBS was creating news.

11:20 to ensure that whatever story the CIA wanted to spin of their operation was reported on. So, one of many. He goes on to say, using CBS equipment, Warbell secretly recorded incriminating conversations with Haiti's Consul General in Miami, intending to use it as blackmail.

11:52 The hope was the consul would persuade Papa Doc to pay them like blackmail money. Warbell later admitted that the blackmail attempt nearly cost the consul his life. The duplicity and double crosses were as much a part of this quote unquote CBS invasion. And as a result, ended up obviously in its failure. Warbell.

12:27 had bugged the CBS technicians as well. So obviously Warbell is very much into eavesdropping. And that becomes one of the underlying themes of this entire book when we get to the B.R. Fox part of it, which was expertise or experts in the surveillance part. So he's kind of just priming the pump.

13:03 He goes on to say that he knew that Morrissey, Koenig, and Fox of B.R. Fox was part of assassination, international narcotics trafficking, electronic booby traps, foreign criminals, and the dozen ex-CIA officers secretly attached to the new DEA office.

13:36 referred to in our other book as the dirty dozen and that he worked warbell worked extensively with lucian koenig and warbell and the cia so lucian koenig was seen by the author as the leader and the guy that had put together and was running this dirty dozen operation that was co-located

14:14 In the same building with B.R. Fox Company. And it says just when the Senate was preparing to question Warbell about the discovery of one of his various plots, he was indicted, effectively preventing him from answering any questions on Capitol Hill. That's another trick that we've seen played. You keep them from testifying by indicting them and then.

14:52 Behind the scenes, eventually either the indictment gets dropped or they cop a plea deal to be paying some small fine, probation, whatever. So it goes on to talk about his involvement with Robert Besko and that Warbell suddenly found his son and partner in his company, Defense Services, Inc., named as a defendant in a criminal case.

15:24 alleging an illicit sale of automatic weapons. The circumstances surrounding that indictment was so strange that the Senate Investigating Committee itself gave credence to Warbell's complaint that he was being set up. Not only had the indictments come down within hours of the Senate subpoena, but the case was obviously the result of a pseudo-investigation built with such haste

15:55 upon a foundation of entrapment alleging that the defendant sought to make an illegal transfer of sub machine guns to undercover agents that the case of course was eventually dropped it was all a trick to get him out of testifying in front of congress so sonic sonics s-i-o-n-i-c-e

16:29 It stands for Studies in the Operational Negation of Insurgents and Counter Subversives. It was basically an entity that was a workshop for assassinations. And it involved using Warbell's specially silenced submachine gun pistol.

17:05 He says that even Hollywood recognized the appeal of Warbell's tales. They saw Three Days of the Condor, McHugh, or Killer Force as a reminder of the silent weaponry used in Hollywood. The submachine guns and silencer used in those films.

17:38 were the same one that Warbill had created, featured in CIA-ordained movies. So psionics and the technology behind the M10 and M11, which were these handgun submachine guns, was actually developed and patented by Gordon Ingram. He was the scientist behind it.

18:17 He insisted that he was only a technician doing a job for money. He wasn't interested in the politics. He said that the M10 just makes killing easier. The capability was firing 700 rounds per minute at an effective range of 250 to 300 yards. That's quite a feat. And I'm not a weapons expert. And he said.

18:54 that the design of it allowed them to produce this Ferrari-styled clandestine weapon at Volkswagen prices. That was their big claim to fame. And of course, we found out in the other book that producing the weapons in the United States, which they did, was not their best business model.

19:28 Because then you still had to grease the palms of the State Department, the Commerce Department to get the permits to get them out of the country. And sneaking them out while they did do that too was cumbersome because it left them open to their own selves being blackmailed. So they were actively looking for a place to build a place.

19:59 in a different country. And that goes to Robert Vesco in Costa Rica, which is where they were working on setting up this plan. Meanwhile, Robert Vesco is looking for some island, which of course we end up with Paradise Island, as a cover that they could open, have basically a free

20:28 zone of trade. They spent a lot of money and a lot of time doing this, traveling to different places. Remember the place off of Haiti that we talked about on the Alpha Warrior show? They were actively looking for some place to do all of this nefarious crap in one place. But it had to be one that they could get the permission or their own country, which they did talk about.

20:57 to be able to designate it as a free zone so that they had total control of what comes in and out of that particular place. So he goes on to talk about a company, and I'm going to have to read up to this part. So there's a guy by the name of Rosser Scott Reeves III. R-O-S-S-E-R. Rosser.

21:33 roser scott reeves iii so he creates a company where he ends up being the board chairman of quantum corporation reeves was the heir to one of the world's largest advertising fortunes he held his meetings at the new york racket and tennis club he was a prominent investment banker

22:06 who shares his name with the famous ruby called, that ruby was 137 carat Roser Scott Reeves ruby. It was donated by Reeves' father to the Smithsonian Institute. That's how rich this guy is. The Quantum had offices in New York and Washington, D.C.

22:40 Neither Reeves nor Quantum, however, could be reached by the author the entire time he was doing the research. Incommunicado. But it is interesting, Quantum's Washington address was at the LaFont Plaza in a building owned by the Rockefeller family. Yes, and I can hear Warhamster, all roads lead to Rockefeller. So.

23:18 When he tried to contact the office in New York, he was told that they had moved. Locating Reeves is necessary if one is not to write that Quantum is a complete mystery. Which, as Reeves makes clear, when he's finally tracked down, it would prefer to stay a complete mystery. Its stockholders...

23:50 had to swear an oath of secrecy to the chairman. They described themselves as a third force. That sounds eerily familiar to the third way. Difficulties in locating their offices coupled with their relationship to Warbell, its exotic product line, and its gun sales to Arabs and Israel was one.

24:24 that they wanted kept shrouded in secrecy compounding the mystery further is the rumor that the firm had some relationship to the cia oh my gosh that's a big shocker reeves was blunt saying that while he refuses to name his co-investors he describes them as liberals men and women who

24:55 have varying politics. The secret list of quantum stockholders obtained from government sources revealed a financial group whose members share an affection for mutual acquaintances, one of which was hanging out at the Racquet Club. With few exceptions, they reside on Central Park's posh and security-conscious East Side.

25:33 One man belonged to the John Birch Society, but another one belongs to the CFR. It kind of gives you the whole idea of what we've been saying all along, is these people are not wedded to the proverbial right and left, and anybody that tries to suggest they are is lying to you. They're intellectually lazy. One of them was president of a hockey team.

26:05 and the director of an ice cream company, while another, Charles Spofford, S-P-O-F-F-O-R-D, served as a director of the CIA Conduit of Historical Importance. And with that, he had a footnote. So let's check this footnote out because it's very interesting. The reference is to American Committee on United Europe.

26:33 Formed after World War II for the purpose of enabling the rearmament of Germany, considered essential to everything in the quote-unquote Cold War that was starting, the committee's chairman was General William Wild Bill Donovan, American Committee on the United Europe. And keep in mind, Wild Bill Donovan is the guy.

27:03 that sets up the world commerce league making bank on everything post-world war ii that sold to re-arm europe okay we learned that in another book and of course we know him to be the chief of the oss and intimately involved in setting up the cia american committee on united europe wow bill donovan other

27:37 Committee officers of the American Committee on United Europe was none other than Alan Dulles, Tom Braden, Mr. CIA officer who then sneaks into the role of a reporter, General Walter Bedell Smith. As for the committee's rank and file, they numbered more than 600 prominent Atlantises.

28:13 comprising the financial spine of America's Eastern Seaboard. Conrad Hilton was a member, as well as union leader, because we have to control the workers, David Dubinsky, and Arthur Goldberg. In many ways, the organization functioned as an analog to Prince Bernard's Bilderberg Group. It's like Bilderberg Group.

28:43 The committee's purpose was to channel CIA funds to private political groups in Europe, and it succeeded. In 1952 alone, the committee funded nearly 200, 2000 youth conferences, film showings, 21 exhibits, and the printing of nearly 5 million brochures and periodicals in 10 languages.

29:20 that's crazy and that's all under mr roser scott reeves iii and quantum corporation yeah so that's crazy another member was edmund of quantum's board edmund lynch who shares top billings with merrill pierce thinner and smith as in

30:01 Merrill Lynch. Other society hobnobbers was Hopi Ryan Gaynard, heir to various fortunes, a grain magnate, the former chairman of the executive committee of the Metropolitan Opera, and lastly, they had another guy that was the trustee of Union Theology Seminary.

30:34 Those were the people that were doing business with Mitch Warbell. Another stockholder in Quantum seems entirely out of place, unless you know what we know. He was a director for the Fund for Peace, trustee of the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions, a Rockefeller buddy.

31:08 who had donated $250,000 to McGovern's campaign, none other than Stuart Rawlings Mott, M-O-T-T. He was a multimillionaire, inherited the monolithic wad of General Motors stock. Mott was fascinating. Dividends on GM stock alone are estimated to bring in

31:47 For him and his holdings, $1.3 million a year. Mott wasn't just rich. He had a vivid imagination. He was a philanthropist, of course. He published a newsletter about his daily life. In it, he talked about being a big advocate for birth control.

32:28 He envisioned streams of impoverished school children parading through a penthouse that he was building. Why on earth would a multimillionaire envision that? He actually said that. That's a quote of his. Envision school-aged children streaming through his penthouse. I actually don't even want to know. And then it talks about...

33:06 Warbell having the ear of Kingmakers and Dragonslayers, like post-editor Ben Bradley, who comes up a lot. And super lawyer Edward Bennett Williams. He comes up a lot too. He came up a lot when I was researching Inertel. He seems to be everywhere all the time.

33:34 Others, Senator Charles Percy and newsman Dan Rather. Mott hung out with all of them, as did Warbell. It was his money, Mott's money, that funded the Committee for an Effective Congress. Well, that was a sucky investment. Unless you are talking about effective in terms of the global order, then they did really well on that investment.

34:15 It says that this group, Committee for Effective Congress, purged so many congressional committee chairmen after Watergate. And it was his money that helped CIA critic John Marks establish the Center for National Security Studies. Mott's secret financial alliance with John Bircher's CIA agents and Warbell then was so out of keeping with his front as a liberal.

34:49 Which of course is definitely a front. So when the author was having a conversation with him, he says, Mott has a simple explanation confronted with the fact of his bizarre partnerships. He says that it is in no way contradicts his commitment to peace and disarmament. On the contrary, he says, he made the decision to invest in quantum while on a peacekeeping mission.

35:26 to Moscow. Turning to his financial advisor for confirmation, he adds, we weren't particularly interested in the military aspects anyway. The author asked him, weren't you? No, no, of course not, he says. The author says, but what then? Wright says, but you see, the silencer worked so well, we thought you could use it on snowmobiles.

36:00 And lawnmowers to lessen the noise. Right. That was his official response. You just can't make this shit up. So that's the reason why there's just certain parts of this book that you have to hear because you would never believe them if somebody just told you this was some of the crap that they said. All right. Let's move on.

36:50 So he quotes the Hugen book that we just did in mentioning. And the reason why I bring this up is when multiple authors think certain things are very important for people to know, it probably is very important for us to know. He quotes the part of Hugen's book that we just finished about the Battelle Memorial Institute and its role in all of this.

37:23 So that's to me is very, very important. And I read it yesterday because it was written about in Harper's Magazine. So I'm not going to reread the quote, but it is very important. And it is in the chapter called The Pulp Dossier that he begins talking about ITT hiring Inertel to perform an investigation.

37:54 to discredit Jack Anderson and by extension, his criticism of Intertel, which is ITT's hired guns, if you will. In New York, Fidelifact is employed by General Motors, who we just read is part of this whole network. Fidelifact was hired by General Motors to probe Ralph Nader's sex life.

38:30 to capture him in nefarious sexual positions in order to discredit him. IBM concerned about attempts to penetrate their database and also by the threats of terrorist kidnapping in Latin America, which is laughable because IBM was actually supplied the computer system to track the

39:05 the dissidents that were rebelling against the CIA's installed military dictatorship, where they were kidnapping the people, that was all done through a tracking system supplied by IBM. So IBM was not interested in terrorist threats because they were tracking the terrorist kidnapping the resistance in Latin America.

39:40 Also, he brings up in Virginia that DECTOR, Counterintelligence Company, D-E-K-T-O-R. It was led by Colonel Bell, who handled secret assignments for industries. So, and of course, DECTOR is going to be involved in Howard Hughes, Richard Nixon, the

40:17 Aristotle Anastas and Robert Mayhew. They all go together in Nefarious. It also talks about the Wackenhut Corporation preparing a private study on communist expansion in the Caribbean. In other words, they were tasked to create the documentation that the CIA would then use as their justification for overthrowing.

40:49 sovereign governments when the people elected nationalists under the auspices of quote unquote communism. This whole thing is a self-licking ice cream cone. And it's so incredibly important to look at all of the nefarious connections of all of these people producing these types of quote unquote research documents. And when you know who they're all aligned with,

41:19 it makes what went on during that time and what's going on right now, quite frankly, all the more important because you see on X every day, some document that was written that justifies whatever the actions that the government wanted to take. The same thing happened in COVID. The same thing happened with all of this nefarious shit. The whole summer of whatever it was called.

41:48 where Arab Spring, where we overthrew all those governments, they all had propaganda produced by these same entities in order to justify the action that they wanted to take. And again, this is something that has been going on for a very long time. So there is a book that is quoted in all of this that I wanted to mention. It's called

42:23 I don't know if you guys have heard it, but it's called The Dogs of War by Frederick Forsythe. And it's interesting. This is how he puts it. There is no need to examine every novel in detail, though it's fun to identify the real life counterparts. For instance, the major characters and operations in The Dogs of War.

42:48 Even the briefest consideration of this genre reveals a set of themes and characteristics that are common in books. With a few exceptions, the hero is the ingenious, wounded loner, a master spook alienated from his employer. And he's cynical. He adheres rigidly to a private code of honor. He's bitter. A product of, says his...

43:22 He is a product of the society and begins to rebel against it and moves purposely through a world mixed with hostility and opportunity. A world that seems to exist for his use and manipulation. He gets around things that would stop you and I, like a locked door, a police raid.

43:53 And basically it says that the sudden revelation that you walk away from is the entire system is diseased. And then they use that to rationalize a whole set of violent responses. And it's going to the point of most of these movies are efforts, as we know, to condition us.

44:27 He points that out. Let's see what else was of note. He mentions a few others. And then he gets to a very interesting chapter called The Paladins. And I found that very interesting because, of course, that's the name of Otto Skorzeny's company. And in it, he talks about private operations. And he goes back to Tom Horton's Fidelifact.

45:03 Tom Horton is the president and he talks a lot about his role in basically the old school way of doing business where, and we read this about the Sears and Roebuck guy that owned a separate company that basically had an entire room full of women that clipped ads about people and stuck them in files as kind of like a personnel secret.

45:35 surveillance system that then sold itself as a background check company. That's what Fidelifact did. They used Bell telephone books. They collected, they had entire storage containers so that they could track where people lived, looking through them. I can't even imagine doing that, but they had it if they wanted to check. So they get a application to some

46:04 important job and someone says they lived in Illinois, they had the telephone books and they went and verified whether or not that person lived there. That was the whole impetus behind, well, part of the impetus behind Fidelifax. And he goes on to talk about how they used court systems to verify marital data. They had access somehow.

46:34 to perform credit investigations, traces, all kinds of things. And there was also an entity called the Retail Credit Bureau of Atlanta that did the same thing. It said they had more than 10,000 investigators on their staff and dossiers pertaining to tens of millions of Americans in their file.

47:05 It was at the time America's largest private intelligence agency. And most people didn't even know it existed. Tom Horton said that it was just a regular old job, not that big of a deal. So they had contracts with government entities, all kinds of most of the big corporations at the time, lots and lots.

47:46 He also comes across the Law Enforcement Assistance Administration. That's the same organization that was giving the grants out to local police departments to buy surveillance equipment and pay for their officers to attend that, I think it was in Fort Lauderdale, definitely South Florida, that double entity that had the hotel and the training facility.

48:16 that fronted as selling the surveillance equipment, all of which was attached to the CIA, whether it was a CIA front or a proprietary, I don't know that, but it functioned as if it was. And because these officers were then attached training-wise, coordination-wise, support-wise to this entity,

48:41 They then had the ability to have all of those contacts all over America and all of those police departments that got this Department of Justice grant to buy this information that they established buddy relationships so they could call and find out the status of a particular investigation. All of that. They would fly in and take all of the officers that they had trained out to dinner, butter them up.

49:10 Basically, you had this entire entity that had the capability to spy on any American. And this was like 40 and 50 years ago this was going on. This is the same company that was implicated in the Karen Silva book. They had trained those officers that bugged her house. And weirdly enough, government forces were able to.

49:40 know everything that was going on in that investigation in real time. So very, very interesting. One of the, let me see where this part starts because this is right after that he talks about in early 1966, former CIA officers and FBI agents headed up almost 100 industrial security firms.

50:23 And 10 years later, the number had multiplied exponentially. Among them were such specialists in counter espionage as Sol, S-A-U-L, Aster, of Management Safeguards, Inc. in New York, Alan Bell of Detour Counterintelligence in Virginia, Crest Detective Agency in Santa Monica.

50:51 George L. Barnes & Associates in Los Angeles and Norman Jaspin Associates in New York that had over 500 employees that described itself as a management engineering agency. James McCord Associates, as the infamous James McCord, in Maryland and Houston. Sheffield Edwards & Associates in Virginia.

51:24 Robert Mayhew Associates, Fidelity Reporting Services in New York, and Anderson Security Associates in Virginia. He has a footnote. McCord's notoriety is a historical matter. As for Fidelity, Edwards, Mayhew, and Anderson, each has been part of a shape-shifting archipelago of domestic security firms.

51:54 closely associated with the cia some like fidelity are or were proprietary fronts handling excuse me background investigations of americans for the cia they weren't actual legitimate businesses at all they were the cia spying on americans others like edwards and anderson agencies

52:28 were incorporated as private firms. They depended upon the CIA for contracts involving security and counterintelligence, including surveillance of U.S. government workers in Washington, D.C. As for Mayhew, it handled top secret CIA assignments involving political dirty tricks, assignments designed to provide the agency

52:59 with plausible deniability what all these firms and their unnumbered counterparts had and have in common is their proprietary loyalty to the cia there you have it that's crazy all right that gets us as far as we're going to get tonight or today and we'll pick up there tomorrow or sorry monday i keep forgetting it's friday we got the whole weekend

53:42 All right, let me get Bridget up here. I sent you the thing, Bridget. Go ahead, Warhamster. I caught most of that fun chapter. Then my darn phone rang again. It stopped. When I'm listening to your show on the phone, it interrupts it. So I missed a couple things. But you said one name that just jumped off the page at me. And it's because we've covered him before. Mr. Charles Spofford. He is Skull and Bones.

54:35 Class of 1924. And I would love to read just some brief notes about him. Right. Because if y'all haven't seen this before, he is from Evanston, Illinois, went to Harvard Law, and married into the Walker family a Margaret Mercer Walker in 1930. And that is a distant cousin, I believe. He would join the law firm of Davis, Polk, and Wardwell, who, of course, was the chief counsel for J.P. Morgan, who we just talked about.

55:07 They also were big in the financial crisis of 2009 where they represented, oh, I don't know, AIG, Freddie Mac, Lehman Brothers, my old employer, Citigroup. They would help craft the Dodd-Frank Act. Their alumni are all over the D.C. bureaucracy, from SEC Chairman Gary Lynch, John Leibowitz.

55:36 I won a Mueller special counsel team in Uzo Asanye, Christian Gillibrand, Jerome Powell, Eli Whitney, DevaVace, Voice. Who else do we have here? That's pretty good representation there. And then, of course, he was in the U.S. Army in World War II as a brig general. And because of his financial background and ability to speak French, he was assigned to the Allied Force HQ in Algiers.

56:04 In 43, he becomes chief of staff for the Allied military government, deputy chief of civil affairs for Sicily and Italy, which is, I know you think that, I know that's fascinating. And he actually spent a lot of time in meetings with everyone from Patton to Montgomery to De Gaulle. Then he gets to 1950 to 52, he served in NATO as the U.S. rep to the North Atlantic Council and the chair of the European Coordinating Committee. So he's Gladio. You think?

56:34 He's the guy that was in Sicily in the immediate aftermath that was basically reactivating the mafia. Yeah, that's got a tie right into Operation Underworld. He had to have his fingerprints on that too, given the Sicily stuff. Yeah. But when he said the name, I go, wait a minute. We've talked about that one before. That's so...

57:06 crazy such small circles never never i'm no i'm no longer surprised i mean i haven't been for a long time but i mean but it is um the word's not surprised it i get um it's exhilarating to make those connections it doesn't surprise us anymore that there's the connections because there's always connections but it's fun finding them

57:36 That's kind of the puzzle piece to put another piece in the puzzle and find out, you know, it's been sitting over on the side for a long time and you don't know where it goes. And then when you're able to put it in the puzzle and it goes in the exact right place, that's the feeling that I get because I love doing puzzles. All along, go ahead. All along. We cannot hear you. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you now.

58:23 But now I can't. So I don't know if they don't want us to hear you today, but you keep cutting in and out. Let me take him down and then we'll bring him back up. All right. I just sent you a new invite all along. How creepy is it? The guy inviting or wanting a stream of kids. Now I'm not going to be able to get that image out of my head for the next three days. I mean, it's like, oh my God. And why would you say that out loud?

59:08 Right. Yeah. People are sick, sick, sickos. Well, but back then, you know, not that I'm trying to defend the sicko, but back then they could say things like that out loud and they just sounded benevolent. But that was before we all figured it out. Go ahead, O-Long, see if you can talk now. Go ahead. I can hear you. O-Long? Colonel, can you hear me? Yeah. Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you.

59:45 okay so um cool and um costa rica in kind of doing it anyway um with privatized relationship with cbs it kind of strongly reminded me of the um the paulie bayo mission in cuba what with you know time life yes yes um yes being on board that ship yes and you know and it's just like you know at what point

1:00:17 The whole thing about at what point is this really private business and what point is it government continues to see, you know, we see it very clearly then. And it's like the CIA is going to get you one way or the other, you know. And the Pali Bay omission is so extremely important in terms of like understanding, because, you know, that they were basically, you know, up in the group.

1:00:47 You're cutting out. For the billionth time in November of 1963. Yeah. And not only that. You're cutting out. Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. Not only that, the guy in Time Life was the nephew of C. You keep cutting out. You keep cutting out at the most critical time. So what he's talking.

1:01:22 Hold on a second. What he's talking about is William Polly, our Forrest Gump. Directly to C.D. Jackson. Yeah. Let me just fill everybody in because you keep cutting out. He's talking about an expedition that William Polly put on to basically perform a mission to Cuba, to invade Cuba. He had an entire crew.

1:01:53 on his private yacht and embedded in this mission was time life reporter to go and film the whole thing and he's talking about the relationships that these people had to other people that was part of this entire it and it does mirror what we were just talking about about the cbs expedition to haiti

1:02:20 This is not an anomaly, is the point he's trying to make. Go ahead. Did you have anything else you wanted to add all along? Yeah, Colonel, can you hear me now? Yeah. Okay, yeah. The other thing I wanted to mention is about this guy, Mott, and his sort of, what I would call it, well-capping of the congressional investigations of the mid-'70s. In other words, it mentions that...

1:02:54 very significantly, in my opinion, that he got the committee heads replaced. And that's really, really critical, in my view, you know, because of what Professor, oh, geez, over at California Davis said about the CIA working directly with the New York Times.

1:03:25 Washington Post to get the congressional heads replaced in the mid-70s. And so it's very interesting that this guy Mott would cultivate this kind of left liberal reputation and at the same time do the truly intricate work of the CIA with the New York Times and Washington Post because that's very, very sensitive, you know. So he has to...

1:03:53 cultivate this left liberal facade in order to get away with that stuff yeah and then there and then there's the whole henry gonzalez representative henry gonzalez stuff within those mid-70s congressional committees that's just like wtf is the short version because he's if there was any if there was ever a guy who was cultivated as all this in the yeah you just cut out of coburn

1:04:22 You just cut out again. Yeah, but he's a real hatchet man in terms of looking leftist, but getting the committee chairs that the CIA wants replaced, replaced. He's like a really good look at Congressman Henry Gonzalez. And it is, it's illustrative of the control over Congress that these people.

1:04:54 i'm going to mute you for just a second um it is illustrative of the power that these unseen forces have over congress that's not changed and that's how they do it um it is a very important point i agree because it's still happening today as we know okay anything else i've been keeping um track over here on the

1:05:31 chat on rumble um donnie or let's see war hamster speaking of maps do you have the revenge of geography in your library um i don't know if you have that war hamster donnie vision is asking you yeah i just responded just now i do not have it but the title alone sounds intriguing he's responding to my comment that i've just been a really good i got to play with maps today

1:06:01 on our show. Every time I get pulled with maps, I'm in a really good mood. Well, I'm glad we could help you out. Why are you so mad? Go ahead. Yeah, I love the episode today. It was very informative. Warhamster, I got a question for you. Maybe we can get together or you can send me some sort of a list of the proprieties of the CIA that you have and we can collaborate on that because I'm trying to build my own and I could use some help because there's a lot.

1:06:32 What's the specific request you need to send them? Yes, I'm more than happy to collaborate. What exactly are we trying to do? I'm trying to make, right now I've been focusing on both the aviation industry and the tech industry on their collaboration with DARPA and with CIA. And the list is so large and it keeps growing.

1:06:59 And I was wondering if you could possibly help me out in making some of those connections because it is more than a one-person job. And this is kind of, it's bogging me down. Love to help. Send me a DM on Twitter and we'll coordinate a time to jump on a Zoom and we will figure that out. Oh, cool. Thank you so much. My pleasure. Okay. So if we don't have anything else, I'm going to jump off here.

1:07:30 and grab some dinner and we're gonna have to do a deviation um i'm had uh craig roberts send me his um another one of his books the guy that wrote the medusa file you guys this book he sent me is so explosive and

1:07:58 I know this is the right audience to bring that book to, so I just started reading it. It's not a big book. It will be able to be done probably in a week and a half, but we are going to have to do that. It's going to get moved up on the list. It's going to blow you guys' mind. He goes through some very interesting...

1:08:24 information. And he is, I don't know if you guys remember, I talked with him for like an hour and a half on the phone and we were comparing notes. He was not obviously as well versed in Gladio as I am. He was aware of it, as we found out in the Medusa file book. But the the bridging of what I was able to add to what information he knew.

1:08:53 was really, really exciting. And I told him, he didn't commit to coming on our show. I think he will. But I told him I didn't think I could do bringing him on the show justice until I read his other material so I can get the full flavor of all of the stuff he knows. Because obviously he went from World War II to some very current stuff in the Medusa file, kind of just glazing over a whole bunch of it.

1:09:23 And he has done a couple of other books with really deep digs into different ones of those things that he talked about in his book. So as soon as I finish this book, I am going to reach out to him and see if we can't get him on. I would love for you guys to be exposed to him personally so that you could ask him questions. And if I can set that up, I'm definitely going to do it.

1:09:53 So anyway, that's definitely in the future, like near future. So anyway, you guys have a nice weekend. And I doubt maybe on Sunday, but obviously we're coming up on a new month. So we will have to do a few premium shows over the next one. Again, I don't know what I'm going to do, but we'll figure it out. We're definitely going to do another movie.

1:10:21 And I will send out a poll so we can figure out what movie we're going to do. And I don't have a lot because this weekend is my grandson's second birthday. And I'm very, very excited about that. We're having a big birthday party for him tomorrow. So I probably won't be on very much over the weekend. I will be doing a new recording with Ben Kelleran on Sunday. And it will be released either...

1:10:50 Monday or Tuesday, which is when he normally releases those shows over on his channel. So what's your grandson's actual birthday tomorrow? I missed me by three days. Yep. Tomorrow. So yeah, we're so excited about that, but it's actually, it's actually a great birthday because it allows you to play a whole year. August 1st is a deadline for little league baseball. So you can be a 13 year old playing against 12 year olds. Well,

1:11:20 I will tell you, as big as my grandson is, that's definitely going to play to his advantage. Because he is definitely bigger than most of his peers. Yeah, my last year of Little League, I was six foot. And I'm playing Little League All-Stars. I get so much of five foot six. It was like taking candy from a baby. I don't know that he's going to be tall.

1:11:48 But he is going to, he's a chunky monkey. And yeah, he's got an arm on him. I'm telling you. He clocked me in the head with a car in the pool a couple of days ago. And I didn't realize it, but it actually left a mark. And I'm like, wait a minute. So one of the birthday presents that I bought him is these. They have these really cool.

1:12:13 My niece had them at her daughter's birthday. They they're like these little gel made rubber balls that you they're magnetically closed. And so you open them up underwater and it fills them with water. And so they're like water balloons, but they're actually made out of a very loose gel.

1:12:32 type material that opens up when you hit somebody with them. And so I told my husband, I said, no more metal cars in that he has all of these little matchbox cars of Camaros that I bought him. Um, so he could be like grandpa with his Camaro and, um, they don't feel good when they hit you in the head. So anyway, the life and times of having a grandkid, but anyway, all right.

1:13:01 You guys have a nice weekend because I'm sure going to enjoy mine. You guys take care. See you guys later.

Entities here

Mitchell WerBell III20 CIA9 Stuart Rawlings Mott9 Quantum Corporation8 Rosser Reeves6 Charles Spofford5 Fidelifact5 Operation Gladio4 Robert A. Mayhew Associates3 CBS Invasion3 Haiti3 BR Fox Company3 Time-Life3 The Medusa File3 Polly Bay Mission3 American Committee on a United Europe3 Robert Vesco3 Lucien Conein3 Sheffield Edwards & Associates2 Inertel2 Fidelity Reporting Services2 SONICS2 James McCord2 Committee for an Effective Congress2 Anderson Security Associates2 The Washington Post2 Costa Rica2 NATO2 The New York Times2 Tom Horton2 Northern Ireland2 British Malaya2 William J. Donovan2 David Stirling2 Cuba2 General Motors2 Henry Gonzalez2 Special Operations Group2 British Special Air Service2 François Duvalier2

Claims made here

Mitchell WerBell III member_of Paul Helliwell book_quoted ▶ 2:20

“invasion. And he points out that in 1966, Mitch Warbell was a good deal more sober and effective. He starts drinking a lot because he's doing a lot of nefarious things. And he points out the fact that…”

David Stirling founded British Special Air Service book_quoted ▶ 2:50

“network and all of the people that ends up in the Miami station involved in JFK's assassination, blah, blah, blah. He also mentions Lucien Koenig a lot in this book, but he also mentions Colonel David…”

British Special Air Service operated_in British Malaya book_quoted ▶ 3:22

“under the Special Air Services SAS Regiment, which is kind of the counterpart to our Special Forces. And he mentions that they were involved in Kenya, Malaya. And keep in mind, during this time, Malay…”

British Special Air Service operated_in Cyprus book_quoted ▶ 3:49

“They tried all of the same stuff. They used Agent Orange. They did all of the same things that the CIA did in Vietnam, in Malaya, the British did. He was also in Cyprus, which puts him in position for…”

Mitchell WerBell III carried_out_attack Watergate scandal book_quoted ▶ 5:23

“and served widely as mercenaries under various leaders and banners. In other words, they're functioning as part of Operation Gladio, both inside and outside of Britain, which I thought was very notabl…”

British Special Air Service member_of Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 5:23

Mitchell WerBell III did_business_with Walt McMahan book_quoted ▶ 5:55

“He says that others who worked with Warbell, such as the Thai Armed Forces Commander-in-Chief, which, of course, we understand that we bought and paid for the Thai government, especially the military …”

Mitchell WerBell III did_business_with Andrew Craig Bennett book_quoted ▶ 5:55

Mitchell WerBell III did_business_with Ken Bernstein book_quoted ▶ 6:57

“Just one of those guys that mysteriously appears at just the right time with a lot of money and then fades off into the Netherlands. He also says that he worked with Cuban exile leader Rolando Masferr…”

Mitchell WerBell III did_business_with Rolando Masferrer book_quoted ▶ 6:57

Mitchell WerBell III did_business_with Anselmo Allegro book_quoted ▶ 6:57

Mitchell WerBell III operated_in Bangkok book_quoted ▶ 7:30

“also criminals and known to work in the arms trafficking area. And then, of course, he goes on to talk about him being involved in Costa Rica, which was Robert Vesco's area of expertise. He also talks…”

Mitchell WerBell III operated_in Manila book_quoted ▶ 7:30

Mitchell WerBell III operated_in Costa Rica book_quoted ▶ 7:30

Mitchell WerBell III operated_in Singapore book_quoted ▶ 7:30

Mitchell WerBell III carried_out_attack CBS Invasion book_quoted ▶ 9:35

“armored Mercedes Benz. And he says in the spring of 66, War Bell was part of a bizarre military operation led by Cuban exiles and Haitian exiles. The extent of what became called the CBS invasion was …”

CBS Invasion targeted_for_regime_change François Duvalier book_quoted ▶ 9:35

Mitchell WerBell III did_business_with Andrew St. George book_quoted ▶ 10:08

“and use it as a staging for invasions into Cuba. As with any private war, financing was central. Weapons and transportation had to be arranged, safe houses, blah, blah, blah. Warbell confided details …”

Lucien Conein headed Special Operations Group book_quoted ▶ 13:36

“referred to in our other book as the dirty dozen and that he worked warbell worked extensively with lucian koenig and warbell and the cia so lucian koenig was seen by the author as the leader and the …”

Special Operations Group located_in BR Fox Company book_quoted ▶ 13:36

Mitchell WerBell III did_business_with Lucien Conein book_quoted ▶ 13:36

Mitchell WerBell III member_of Defense Services Inc. book_quoted ▶ 14:52

“Behind the scenes, eventually either the indictment gets dropped or they cop a plea deal to be paying some small fine, probation, whatever. So it goes on to talk about his involvement with Robert Besk…”

Gordon Ingram founded Psyonix book_quoted ▶ 17:38

“were the same one that Warbill had created, featured in CIA-ordained movies. So psionics and the technology behind the M10 and M11, which were these handgun submachine guns, was actually developed and…”

Rosser Reeves headed Quantum Corporation book_quoted ▶ 21:33

“roser scott reeves iii so he creates a company where he ends up being the board chairman of quantum corporation reeves was the heir to one of the world's largest advertising fortunes he held his meeti…”

Quantum Corporation located_in Rockefeller family book_quoted ▶ 22:40

“Neither Reeves nor Quantum, however, could be reached by the author the entire time he was doing the research. Incommunicado. But it is interesting, Quantum's Washington address was at the LaFont Plaz…”

William J. Donovan headed American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 26:33

“Formed after World War II for the purpose of enabling the rearmament of Germany, considered essential to everything in the quote-unquote Cold War that was starting, the committee's chairman was Genera…”

William J. Donovan founded World Commerce League host_asserted ▶ 27:03

“that sets up the world commerce league making bank on everything post-world war ii that sold to re-arm europe okay we learned that in another book and of course we know him to be the chief of the oss …”

Tom Braden member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 27:37

“Committee officers of the American Committee on United Europe was none other than Alan Dulles, Tom Braden, Mr. CIA officer who then sneaks into the role of a reporter, General Walter Bedell Smith. As …”

Walter Bedell Smith member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 27:37

Allen Dulles member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 27:37

David Dubinsky member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 28:13

“comprising the financial spine of America's Eastern Seaboard. Conrad Hilton was a member, as well as union leader, because we have to control the workers, David Dubinsky, and Arthur Goldberg. In many …”

Conrad Hilton member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 28:13

Arthur Goldberg member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 28:13

Edmund Lynch member_of Quantum Corporation book_quoted ▶ 29:20

“that's crazy and that's all under mr roser scott reeves iii and quantum corporation yeah so that's crazy another member was edmund of quantum's board edmund lynch who shares top billings with merrill …”

Stuart Rawlings Mott member_of Fund for Peace book_quoted ▶ 30:34

“Those were the people that were doing business with Mitch Warbell. Another stockholder in Quantum seems entirely out of place, unless you know what we know. He was a director for the Fund for Peace, t…”

Stuart Rawlings Mott member_of Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions book_quoted ▶ 30:34

Stuart Rawlings Mott funded George McGovern book_quoted ▶ 31:08

“who had donated $250,000 to McGovern's campaign, none other than Stuart Rawlings Mott, M-O-T-T. He was a multimillionaire, inherited the monolithic wad of General Motors stock. Mott was fascinating. D…”

Stuart Rawlings Mott member_of Quantum Corporation book_quoted ▶ 31:08

Stuart Rawlings Mott funded Committee for an Effective Congress book_quoted ▶ 33:34

“Others, Senator Charles Percy and newsman Dan Rather. Mott hung out with all of them, as did Warbell. It was his money, Mott's money, that funded the Committee for an Effective Congress. Well, that wa…”

Stuart Rawlings Mott funded Center for National Security Studies book_quoted ▶ 34:15

“It says that this group, Committee for Effective Congress, purged so many congressional committee chairmen after Watergate. And it was his money that helped CIA critic John Marks establish the Center …”

General Motors funded Fidelifact book_quoted ▶ 37:54

“to discredit Jack Anderson and by extension, his criticism of Intertel, which is ITT's hired guns, if you will. In New York, Fidelifact is employed by General Motors, who we just read is part of this …”

Otto Skorzeny headed The Paladins host_asserted ▶ 44:27

“He points that out. Let's see what else was of note. He mentions a few others. And then he gets to a very interesting chapter called The Paladins. And I found that very interesting because, of course,…”

Tom Horton headed Fidelifact host_asserted ▶ 45:03

“Tom Horton is the president and he talks a lot about his role in basically the old school way of doing business where, and we read this about the Sears and Roebuck guy that owned a separate company th…”

CIA spied_on Karen Silva host_asserted ▶ 49:10

“Basically, you had this entire entity that had the capability to spy on any American. And this was like 40 and 50 years ago this was going on. This is the same company that was implicated in the Karen…”

Allen Bell member_of Detour Counterintelligence host_asserted ▶ 50:23

“And 10 years later, the number had multiplied exponentially. Among them were such specialists in counter espionage as Sol, S-A-U-L, Aster, of Management Safeguards, Inc. in New York, Alan Bell of Deto…”

Saul Aster member_of Management Safeguards, Inc. host_asserted ▶ 50:23

James McCord member_of James McCord Associates host_asserted ▶ 50:51

“George L. Barnes & Associates in Los Angeles and Norman Jaspin Associates in New York that had over 500 employees that described itself as a management engineering agency. James McCord Associates, as …”

Fidelity Reporting Services front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 51:54

“closely associated with the cia some like fidelity are or were proprietary fronts handling excuse me background investigations of americans for the cia they weren't actual legitimate businesses at all…”

Robert A. Mayhew Associates did_business_with CIA host_asserted ▶ 52:28

“were incorporated as private firms. They depended upon the CIA for contracts involving security and counterintelligence, including surveillance of U.S. government workers in Washington, D.C. As for Ma…”

Sheffield Edwards & Associates did_business_with CIA host_asserted ▶ 52:28

Anderson Security Associates did_business_with CIA host_asserted ▶ 52:28

Charles Spofford member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 53:42

“All right, let me get Bridget up here. I sent you the thing, Bridget. Go ahead, Warhamster. I caught most of that fun chapter. Then my darn phone rang again. It stopped. When I'm listening to your sho…”

Charles Spofford married Margaret Mercer Walker host_asserted ▶ 54:35

“Class of 1924. And I would love to read just some brief notes about him. Right. Because if y'all haven't seen this before, he is from Evanston, Illinois, went to Harvard Law, and married into the Walk…”

Charles Spofford member_of Davis Polk host_asserted ▶ 54:35

Charles Spofford member_of European Coordinating Committee host_asserted ▶ 56:04

“In 43, he becomes chief of staff for the Allied military government, deputy chief of civil affairs for Sicily and Italy, which is, I know you think that, I know that's fascinating. And he actually spe…”

Charles Spofford member_of NATO host_asserted ▶ 56:04

Charles Spofford relationship_with Operation Underworld host_asserted ▶ 56:34

“He's the guy that was in Sicily in the immediate aftermath that was basically reactivating the mafia. Yeah, that's got a tie right into Operation Underworld. He had to have his fingerprints on that to…”

Charles Spofford relationship_with Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 56:34

William F. Buckley carried_out_attack Polly Bay Mission host_asserted ▶ 1:01:22

“Hold on a second. What he's talking about is William Polly, our Forrest Gump. Directly to C.D. Jackson. Yeah. Let me just fill everybody in because you keep cutting out. He's talking about an expediti…”

Time-Life did_business_with William F. Buckley host_asserted ▶ 1:01:53

“on his private yacht and embedded in this mission was time life reporter to go and film the whole thing and he's talking about the relationships that these people had to other people that was part of …”

Stuart Rawlings Mott did_business_with The New York Times host_asserted ▶ 1:03:25

“Washington Post to get the congressional heads replaced in the mid-70s. And so it's very interesting that this guy Mott would cultivate this kind of left liberal reputation and at the same time do the…”

Stuart Rawlings Mott did_business_with The Washington Post host_asserted ▶ 1:03:25

Stuart Rawlings Mott did_business_with CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:03:25

Henry Gonzalez did_business_with CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:04:22

“You just cut out again. Yeah, but he's a real hatchet man in terms of looking leftist, but getting the committee chairs that the CIA wants replaced, replaced. He's like a really good look at Congressm…”