The Colonel's Corner Safe for Democracy Part 51 (53)

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0:31 We're going to start, where we left off yesterday was James Woolsey coming in as the CIA director. So let me, with our Gladio glasses, just highlight a couple of, he looks like Elmer Fudd, just so that you guys get the picture here.

0:59 He spent a lot of time in the Department of Defense. Here's his academic pedigree. Stanford University, where the CIA has a huge institute out there. Rhodes Scholar, University of Oxford. And Yale Law School. So he's worked for both Democratic and Republican administrations.

1:31 Which, those of you who's been here for a while, not surprised at all. He started with Carter. He was in the Reagan administration. He was in George H.W. Bush. And then, of course, he becomes Bill Clinton's CIA director. He ends up being eventually a partner in a law firm.

2:02 Washington, D.C. that also had a major presence in Boston. And it was originally founded during World War II by two FDR administrations. And I'm sorry, I just have to laugh at this. Some of their clients

2:32 was Freeport McMoran, which is the mining company that was involved in the copper mine in Chile, just for perspective there. So they don't have a long list of notable previous people, but it's during this time that Woolsey...

3:00 Woolsey is the CIA director that they finally arrested Aldrich Ames for basically being a spy inside the CIA. So you can't make that up. He, after he moves on from the CIA director's job, he becomes a member of PNAC, the Project for New American Century.

3:31 which of course was intimately involved in the writing of the justification narrative for removing Saddam Hussein. And he also was an energy and climate change advisor to John McCain's 2008 presidential election, which basically is a lie because the guy has no experience in energy or climate change.

4:01 So he was there for other reasons, just FYI. He also worked with Robert McFarlane, the guy running Iran-Contra, to create an Energy Security Council, which seems a bit odd. He's done all kinds of other...

4:29 He sat on advisory boards with Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, Jacob Rothschild. He was hired as a spokesperson for NBC, which is basically CIA. So, yeah, he's very, very interesting.

4:57 In a book that he wrote, this is very interesting, in 2021, now this is the CIA director. He's got access to all of the classified information. He, in a book that was published in 2021, accused the Soviet Union of the assassination of JFK. So that tells you all you need to know about James Woolsey. So let's get back to that.

5:27 the book he's a registered democrat and um because of his defense department stints knew about spy satellites but his supposed closest association with the cia before that was in 1989 when

5:58 He had a legal role representing Charlie Allen trying to buck a reprimand for being involved in Iran-Contra. In 1992, Woolsey would have been better recognized as a Jackson Democrat, referring to Washington State's Henry Jackson, because he was considered a neocon. Shocker.

6:33 He had set on presidential commissions during the Reagan era when Brent Scowcroft brought Woolsey onto a group to study nuclear forces. He and Scowcroft collaborated on articles advocating basically the SDI narrative. And early in the Bush administration, Scowcroft had tried to use Woolsey

7:04 to create the policy on the nuclear posture of the United States. He had been a negotiator on the force reductions in Europe. He had also, which was basically, I don't know if you guys know about the base realignment that they referred to it as BRAC. This is in the early 90s when they were closing a whole bunch of European bases. And weirdly enough,

7:31 We didn't see all the politics involved in that because we brought thousands of military people out of Europe. We closed a whole bunch of bases during that time. Not that the countries didn't scream because they depended on us as a huge revenue source, but it wasn't that controversial in the United States. He had briefly been a member of the Kissinger NSC staff.

8:02 and had been an army officer during Vietnam. He contributed policy advice to Michael Dukakis' presidential campaign in 1988 and had done the same for Clinton in 92. That summer, Sandy Berger, who coordinated national security for the campaign, brought together a group that was, quote, according to Clinton,

8:32 more robust views on national security and defense than our party typically projected, unquote. The group which endorsed Clinton included Woolsey. So accordingly to the book, Clinton listened to all of the different opinions. Clinton recounts that he wanted to appoint House Intelligence Committee Chairman Dave McCurdy.

9:04 as the director of the CIA, but McCurdy refused. The congressman probably recommended Woolsey. McCurdy headed an advocacy group in which Woolsey participated as his deputy. Woolsey had also known Les Aspen, several times contributed to Aspen's political campaigns. Just before Christmas, Sandy Berger summoned Jim Woolsey to Little Rock.

9:37 for what the Washington lawyer expected as a consultation, not to be appointed as the CIA director, but Clinton offered him the job. Woolsey is said to have gotten off on the wrong foot. He proved unlucky and unskilled. The Mogadishu debacle had already begun building.

9:59 Barely a week before Woolsey's confirmation hearing, a Pakistani extremist went on a shooting spree at a road intersection outside of CIA headquarters, throwing Langley into a rage as two agency officers died and three were wounded. The new director knew enough to warn Congress that a garden of snakes had replaced the single dragon as a threat.

10:28 Woolsey used that analogy to argue that Americans, instead of enjoying Cold War dividends and a reduction in intelligence budgets, ought to spend as much or more, of course, because now we've got this new threat. He wanted Clinton to spend more over the five-year period when Clinton basically had ran on cutting all of that.

11:06 According to the author, Woolsey got into a table-pounding exchange with Congress in May at a secret hearing, telling them that our security would suffer if they reduced the CIA's budget. Woolsey would hardly be on speaking terms with Dave McCurdy or his successor, Representative Dan Glickman. Woolsey's relations with the Senate committee chairman, Dennis McConsini,

11:39 deteriorated even more. Woolsey proved wooden with the spooks, endearing no one. He raised hackles among the secrecy cult at Langley when he announced the CIA would declassify Cold War records, including covert action. He was merely repeating Robert Gates' promise, but that didn't matter.

12:13 The hysteria followed his initiating personnel cuts during a government-wide review that had been ordered. Woolsey wanted them deeper and quicker. Actually, Woolsey directed the cuts away from the DO, but few secret warriors paid any attention to that. Woolsey did no better with the White House. Several times, Woolsey tried to take the presidential's daily brief to Clinton, but was ignored.

12:44 National Security Advisor Anthony Lake and Sandy Berger, now the deputy, also gave the CIA short thrift. Journalists attributed their attitudes to experience in the Nixon White House. When a small plane crashed into the White House grounds, Woolsey said in a joke that that was his way of trying to get a meeting with Clinton. Woolsey had not even gotten comfortable.

13:15 at Langley when controversy broke out over the CIA in Haiti. Troubles on that Caribbean island had been brewing for months. In fact, Americans trapped in the dish at Mogadishu consoled themselves by listening to the news coming in from Haiti. A military coup against the government of Aristide brought matters to a head.

13:43 And remember, Aristide is the guy the CIA doesn't like. They try to get him out of office more than once. Questions arose about the links between the CIA and the group of thugs and militia spearheading all of the violence. Insert shock face. Plus, all of the information coming out about these same people being drug traffickers. The chief thug had been a CIA asset.

14:22 Then Brian Lattell, a senior CIA analyst, briefed Congress on the agency's psychological profile of Aristide, noting that he was mentally unstable. We've heard that before. No one could confirm. They even floated a rumor that he had been a mental patient in Canada with no evidence. Woolsey pretended that there was no egg.

14:56 on Langley's face, telling a television audience the CIA had great relationships in Haiti. At the White House, Nancy Soderbergh of the NSC staff scored the Eriskeed profile a textbook case of politicalization of intelligence. Meanwhile, Mogadishu's chickens had come home to roost. Woolsey packed the DO boss, Tom Twitton,

15:25 off to London, replacing him. Isn't that weird? That seems to be, that's where they sent Wisner too. That seems to be a good place to stick these people when shit hits the fan. That and the Rome station, which is in itself very, very interesting. Hugh Ted Price, then the chief of the fusion center for counter espionage, was going to take his job.

15:58 Within months, the arrest of Aldrich Ames called Price's leadership into question. Oh, you didn't notice you had a spy? Woolsey defended Price and spent a good deal of energy on the Directorate of Operations. They still consumed more than half of the CIA budget, reported at $3 billion during that time frame.

16:29 but hadn't had a lot to show for it. Covert action fell under the DO spending plan and four to five months paramilitary course at Camp Perry was cut back. The directorate closed 15 stations in Africa. Of course, that still left something on the order of 100 over a few years time, more than half.

17:01 a dozen station chiefs were replaced for cause, meaning they were basically fired but not fired. In Cyprus, a chief had stolen a religious icon. In Bonn, the German government asked for one to be recalled. In Paris, the French asked for theirs to be recalled. In Peru, a station chief had drawn a pistol on his own staff.

17:38 Involved there was Richard Holm and Milt Bearden. In Jamaica, a woman chief of station, Janine Bruckner, was replaced after reporting one of her officers for abusing his wife. So you got fired for reporting an abusive CIA agent. She was then denied promotion and everybody was gossiping about her.

18:10 back at Langley. Bruckner would file a lawsuit. The agency had already begun a glass ceiling study and eventually confirmed antidotes and basically confirmed what she was saying. For every CIA female master spy, there was a dozen Bruckners. It took until 94 in the Latin American division for a woman to become a

18:43 like actually be in a leadership position. The class action lawsuit resulted. Both suits were settled against the agency because Woolsey wanted them off his desk, but they went on his blotter. Field officers like Melissa Mayle tread exceedingly softly distancing herself from those complaints.

19:14 Then you had the African Americans. About the same time, there was reported barely two dozen active black officers that were case officers in a cadre of 1,800 to 2,000. And then they wondered why they didn't have any black officers to put in Africa. Meanwhile, the newly empowered CIA IG investigated CIA's handling of the Ames spy case.

19:45 and submitted his report in September of 94. He found no fewer than 23 officers at fault, starting at the top. The IG's cast of culprits went from Casey, Webster, and Gates. The deputy director for operations, Claire George and Jack Devine, division chief Burton Gerber, they had all handled the investigation on their watch.

20:15 They had basically ignored it. For months, Woolsey had been offering speeches with claims of being aggressive. But when the IG report appeared on the director's desk, just acknowledging that Price had dropped the ball, Woolsey reprimanded the clandestine service chief, but didn't fire him.

20:46 They referred to the report as Whitewash Wednesday. Woolsey had opposed what became the Aspen Brown review, yet while talking about the post-Cold War world, it had been almost two years and there was little evidence that he was doing anything to realign anything in the CIA. Ted Price got credit in press releases for reforms.

21:18 But for talking about them, not actually doing them. When creation of a review commission began to look certain, Woolsey tried to head it off. At home just before Christmas of 1994, Woolsey's family confronted him about how the CIA job was taking away their time. Woolsey called up President Clinton and said he was going to leave the CIA. Bill Clinton had a regular circus.

21:52 with the director of CIA's post. Filling it remained a headache. Vice Admiral William Studman, the deputy at the time, acted in the post after Woolsey left. Clinton first nominated an Air Force general, Michael Carnes, who then withdrew his nomination in March of 95, with the same problem that Zoe Bard had had, employing

22:24 household help without, basically they hired illegals. That's the kind of CIA director you want. An Air Force officer who, full stop, four-star general that hires illegals for health help. When the president asked John Deutch, who had previously served on the Intelligence Advisory Board, Deutch, the Deputy Secretary of Defense,

22:54 wanted to be secretary and turned Clinton down. But after the Carnes fiasco, he was confirmed and sworn in that May. Ted Price saw the writing on the wall and retired. In one form or another, the CIA's shadow war against Saddam Hussein went on for years without quite the ferocity of its struggle with Fidel Castro, but the same dogged.

23:25 approach. The fight began in the Gulf War, continued as a paramilitary effort, and then faded. It began with the first President Bush, who at the onset of the Gulf War compared Saddam Hussein to Adolf Hitler, and as hostilities unfolded, virtually invited the Iraqi people to overthrow their government. The coalition armies smashed the Iraqi forces, the extra effort required to take Baghdad and dispose of

23:56 Hussein would have been an incremental addition, but Bush chose not to do it. In retirement, he told TV interviewer David Frost in December of 95 that he had made a miscalculation. Sure you did. Many Iraqis took Bush at his word, expecting the U.S. would help with its endeavor. They took up arms.

24:23 The Marsh Arabs in southern Iraq and the Kurds in the north and elements of the Iraqi military all fought. The Iranian people's Mujahideen helped Shiite rebels. For weeks beginning in March of 91, the battle ebbed and flowed with the issue never really in doubt. Saddam Hussein had begun pulling his Republican guard out of the Kuwaiti front.

24:51 soon enough to keep it substantially intact. And of course, we allowed that to happen. Those troops became his trump card against the rebellions. A CIA report on March 16th laid out several possible scenarios, including the fall of the dictator and the emergence of a pro-Iranian Shiite state. But it noted that Saddam had the upper hand. Iraq lacked prominent leaders.

25:20 who might supplant the dictator because he killed him. Because at this point, the CIA had tried to identify a couple of them and Saddam Hussein found out and knocked them off, number one of which was his defense minister. President Bush may have intended more than is apparent on the face of this history. There are at least two accounts that assert a White House decision in the first days of the Gulf War to take down Saddam by means of a covert operation.

25:50 But the only actions known to have happened were those contributing to the war itself, the economic and psychological warfare, and the arming of the Kuwaiti resistance. During the uprising, when President Bush would be more overt, in conjunction with London, the United States imposed no-fly zones over the northern and southern Iraq, preventing Saddam Hussein from using his air force against the rebels.

26:19 Bush began Operation Provide Comfort to send relief to the Kurds. Washington also continued economic sanctions in hopes of further weakening Saddam and later in conjunction with UN disarmament measures that were imposed. From Capitol Hill and the media came calls to break the ban on assassination in order to go in and kill Saddam Hussein. Imagine that.

26:49 Operation Provide Comfort is the operation I was in northern Iraq for. The evidence suggests that President Bush, agonizing over the plight of the Iraqis and the relationship between the rebellion, decided to resort to covert action after March 1991. Laley's reports suggest a March 16th intelligence memorandum prepared by Winston Wiley's Iraq cell, quote,

27:20 The wars with Iraq and over Kuwait have almost certainly cost Saddam military support. We believe many officers and men must harbor considerable resentment against him for giving away the gains acquired in the costly war with Iran and for nearly destroying Iraq's military capability in the Kuwait war, unquote. Key to undermining Saddam might lie in the Iraqi army.

27:51 The problem would be to neutralize the Republican Guard, his best troops, and obviously his air power. Because he had already pissed off the military by assassinating the former defense minister. The broad concept seems to have been that if the Iraqi rebellion broke out, one of Saddam's generals would take the opportunity to shoot him. And that would be that.

28:22 A presidential finding resulted. When the draft memo of notification crossed the desk of the Middle East chief, Frank Anderson, in May of 91, he wrote in the margin of his copy, I don't like this. That summer, the agency weighed in again with a intelligence estimate that pointed to the intense internal, especially military, pressure on Saddam.

28:51 Deputy Director for Intelligence Richard Herr took the unusual measure of adding a personal note and drew attention to the estimates discussion of Saddam's vulnerabilities. While many in the community warned that an Iraqi successor regime might not be very different than Saddam's, they observed that his regime might crumble suddenly on its own from its own weaknesses. It was with that reluctance that the Near East Division

29:24 was not all that favorable on the covert action. Bush signed a lethal finding in October of 91. The project had initial funding of $15 million. So you have your entire military in the theater. We're not going to take them out, but we're going to spend $15 million to do a covert a couple of months later. The no-fly zones could neutralize the air power.

30:00 One key to the success of the project. In September, U.S. officials informed Saudi Arabia of the deployment of 80 additional aircraft for possible punitive strikes. The missile batteries to protect against Iraqi counterattacks would be taken out. The Saudis seem to have been reluctant to go along, but the evidence isn't clear. There are reports that Riyadh encouraged it.

30:27 though preferring to spread the risk by having forces in Kuwait and Jordan as well. In November of 91, Bush assured King Fahd that the U.S. would maintain sufficient air power to defeat Iraq. Just as Robert Gates went back to the CIA, his NSC deputies committee asked the Joint Chiefs of Staff to consider how to cope with the Iraqi military.

30:57 The Joint Chiefs were to plan for that contingency of Iraqi commanders making a desperate plea for help, no doubt predicated on their rising against Saddam. General Colin Powell, who happened to be the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned against excessive optimism. Powell believed success impossible unless the U.S. stood ready to use ground troops again. Brent Scowcroft

31:28 apparently argued that air power could negate Saddam's core capabilities. So planning was pulled into the White House to figure that out. Director Gates at the time traveled to Cairo and Riyadh. Immediately before that trip, Iraqi dissident factions first met in Damascus under the cover of a CIA familiarization tour.

31:58 Gates saw Egyptian and Saudi officials about Iraq. National Security Advisor Shkrovkov is reported to have approved Gates' talking points. Another version has it that the CIA director solicited views on dealing with Saddam without offering a U.S. plan. Soon afterwards, Egypt and Syria publicly declared that they would not participate in any covert action.

32:25 But intelligence chief of Syria and Saudi Arabia and then Iran convened in Damascus to hammer out a common front. They got into a squabble about that. These lands all had reasons to not like Saddam Hussein. They just couldn't agree on how to approach it.

32:51 Meanwhile, the CIA began to rev up the Iraqi dissident groups. Langley hired the Rendon Group, which was a Washington PR firm that specialized in black propaganda. They had already been used in Panama and in Kuwait during the Gulf War. Oh, they're probably the ones that came up with that fake babies in incubator story as well.

33:26 They funneled over $300,000 a month to Rendon. The propagandists in the CIA encouraged a range of exile groups to attend a Congress in Vienna where the Iraqi National Congress was created, which basically is just a fake CIA front. That's where Ahmad Chalabi was first elected.

33:56 to be in charge of the CIA front government, like a government in exile. Thomas Twinton, still the deputy at the time, said of these exiles, quote, they needed a lot of help and didn't know where to start, unquote. So the CIA is there to hold your hand. Don't worry about it. That spring, Director Gates secretly visited Jordan where King Hussein, who himself was a former CIA

34:30 asset, wanted no part in the covert operation either, but agreed to give the agency a free hand to do whatever he wanted in his country. After that, the former Baghdad station worked out of Amman. Jordan, obstacles remained formidable. In the intelligence estimate issued shortly before the Vienna Congress, found Saddam stronger than ever.

35:02 and likely to be in control for years ahead. About then, the House Intelligence Committee, in its markup of the CIA's budget, pumped the funding for Iraq to $40 million. The exile groups were happy to pocket CIA money. Beyond that, they were apparently told the U.S. would support al-Saddam, but were not promised direct CIA help. The lukewarm Middle East response to Washington's invitation

35:35 kind of put them on the back foot. The agency was not involved when in early July, 1992, word began filtering out initially through the exiles of some kind of military rebellion followed by Saddam's massive crackdown. Each day, the gloom deepened and assassination had miscarried. The military haunt either had been attempted

36:04 or had been discovered. Yeah, discovered. Forces involved, including Republican Guard, among them, the original commander of this organization, the super secret special security organization, which Saddam created after the 91 uprising had defeated the action. Saddam locked down the army. No units permitted to move for any reason. They arrested and imprisoned.

36:33 including the former chief of staff, all heroes from the Iran-Iraq war. There was a number of generals involved, a prime minister's son, and senior diplomats. After this happened, the CIA focused on the dissidents. There were no easy relationships between Khalabi's fake government and another umbrella group, the London-based Iraqi National Accord.

37:07 where Allah, Allah we. So we have a fake government for the future Iraq, and the UK has another one that they're incubating, kind of like France incubated the Ayatollah. See how that works? That's a pattern, folks. In October of 92, in the Kurdish zone, the CIA brought,

37:41 the CIA group together with the Kurds and the fundamentalist Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. For the moment, Alawi was excluded. Soon the rumor came out of London from an Iraqi exile that the CIA itself had given away the Iraqi military coup plot.

38:08 Right down to shaking Saddam's henchmen, a list of the participants. By then, Bush's time had ended. Iraq became a crossover project handed off to the Clintons. And an interview with the Washington Post, Brent Scrocoff reflected that ousting Saddam Hussein had never been a major objective. No mention of the finding.

38:33 Scowcroft observed that the Iraqi generals that summer had failed because Saddam Hussein had one of the most efficient security systems in the world. The Clinton people were not impressed. One of them later said the program was too fat and all of this front-end capitalization had been completed and there was no coup plotting. There did not seem to be a very good prospect for its success.

39:01 They wanted to cut the Iraqi project. Suddenly, a fax campaign erupted with appeal letters appearing all over Washington, particularly on Capitol Hill. Congress restored much of the money for the coup plot. An incident in 93 when George H.W. Bush visited Kuwait to celebrate the Gulf War victory and became the target for an Iraqi assassination attempt.

39:30 virtually assured the project's continuation. Imagine that. So if I need an excuse, I just stage an attempted assassination and I can secure my funding. No problem. President Clinton struck the headquarters of Saddam's intelligence services with cruise missiles. That seems to be something he likes to do. An unnamed Clinton official

40:01 was right. Most of the CIA's cash went for the care and feeding of the exiles, which it always does, kind of like the Cuban exiles and the Venezuelan exiles. That might have been all right if the CIA had some prospect of depositing it back into Baghdad, but they didn't. The open-ended program smacked as a bankrolling project.

40:34 The Iraqis were sincere enough and made a start at their anti-Saddam messaging. Langley tried to multiply the impact using the Rirdik group, of course. Thus, the Iraq project attained the level of psychological warfare. But a fresh intelligence estimate in December of 93 noted that the Shalabi group does not have the political or military clout needed.

41:02 to bring Saddam down or play an important role in the post-Saddam government. So in other words, you're just pissing in the wind, spending tens of millions of US taxpayer dollars, and God knows what, covertly. Shalabi talked the talk. He wrote a paper on the failings of the 91 uprising and offered suggestions on how it could have went different. His paper became,

41:34 their rallying point. After the meeting with Shalabi began dividing his time between Kurdistan and the West, organizing in one place, lobbying in others. Saddam's view of Shalabi's efforts may be gauged by the 1994 attempted bombing of his house. Washington seemed divided and Langley was well behind.

42:02 According to CIA counts, the State Department Regional Director for Iraq had no interest in being briefed on what the agency was doing. Yeah, don't tell me about that stuff. The NSC held no meetings. So the CIA's just out there doing their shit. No State Department, no NSC meetings, nothing. The CIA's Iraq Operations Group adopted a wait-and-see attitude.

42:34 In 94, Stephen Richter replaced Frank Anderson as the head of the division. He wanted action. Fred Turco agreed that Langley should at least be testing possibilities. His deputy, Robert Bayer, plus a couple of other staffers visited Kurdistan in September. In late October, Warren Merrick led a CIA field team to follow up.

43:05 Among the generations of case officers who joined the agency after Vietnam, Merrick spoke Turkish and could find his way around northern Iraq, although it often seemed like slicing salami. Merrick thought the Iraq project, codenamed Achilles, might eventually shrink Saddam's span of control to Baghdad's city limits. Pressures for quick results

43:33 for a coup on a schedule were what led the CIA astray. Merrick later recalled, we lost our way. Shalabi's plan looked to fit the demands for a schedule. Merrick did not go up or down on the plan, but an Afghan project veteran, he started providing weapons and training to the activists. Just throw money and weapons at it.

44:01 Langley did not order the training, but Fred Turco made no move to halt it either. Merrick became the first of a secession of CIA teams in northern Iraq. Usually, the Americans entered by truck from Turkey. I know, I did it from Diyarbakir. That's a long ass road too. And it's very, very bumpy. And it's a pain in the ass, literally. And you're back.

44:34 in the Humvees. Would never, ever recommend that to anybody, especially when it's 120 degrees in the summer. Task Force Deputy Baer argued that the CIA needed a permanent presence. He volunteered to set up a CIA base. Baer arrived in January of 95 under the pseudonym Bob. A 17-year CIA veteran, Baer had been in India, Beirut, and elsewhere.

45:04 a confirmed Middle East expert. He had been deputy station chief in Morocco, most recently station chief in Tajikistan, and had been doing cleric at the Terrorism Center. Teams rotating through Kurdistan on his watch varied from four to 10 people. Among his...

45:30 First tasked after his arrival, Baer met with an Iraqi defector, General Abdullah al-Sawani, a former commander of Saddam's special forces and of the Turkmen ethnicity from Mosul. Sawani had defected earlier, but had several brothers still in Saddam's army, including one in the Republican Guard.

46:00 Here lay potential answers to the CIA's dilemma on how to neutralize Saddam's best troops. Sawani popped the great question, would the U.S. support a coup if he launched one? Willing to take all the risks, the Iraqis nevertheless needed secure communication equipment, munitions, all of that stuff. Bare certain Langley would not respond to coup talk. So Stephen Ritker.

46:31 pressed for more information. Next came Shalabi and the Kurds. Baer had met the exile leader soon after joining the group. Shalabi had pressed for a permanent CIA presence in the north. Now that Bob had arrived, Shalabi invited him to meet with a group that included the two main Kurdish factions. When the CIA man entered Shalabi's home,

47:01 He found the State Department's regional director already there. The diplomat, dropping by during an area tour, immediately left. That's got to be awkward. Yeah, don't tell us what you're doing, but I'm over here and you just walked into the room. With the Kurdish leaders following. Here lay another sore point. The Kurds, one faction headed by Mossad Barzani, which is the guy I met,

47:33 The other was Jalal-Talibani. They were at each other's throats. Shalabi decided the only way to bridge the differences was to have everyone fight Saddam. He activated his scheme for an uprising. Project Achilles. Baer put Shalabi's initiative together and General Sawani's coup in the so-called Bob Plan.

48:03 In Shalabi's scheme, the Kurds would attack Iraqi army units opposite them, while in the south, the Shia would rise up on their own. Hold on, let me get Bridget back up here. Saddam's army, according to Shalabi's ready to revolt, could collapse within 24 hours. Yeah. The other arrow in the quiver, the coup, seemed complimentary.

48:34 Shalabi had one plan while over the weeks he divulged more details of his own. It hinged on Saddam retreating to his stronghold where he would be toppled. A tank force would run interference with several army units combined to counter loyalists. Relatives commanded the coup force and no one else knew anything, so the security would be perfect.

49:05 So much for the concept. Director Deutsch, Woolsey's successor, not only approved Achilles, he asked the task force to set markers to measure success. Yeah, get out your spreadsheet. Let's put up some points of timelines and chart this all out so we can report success. Shalabi's timed his uprising for March 4th. As the appointed hour approached, the Kurdish differences, instead of disappearing,

49:39 increased. The leak might have come from there. Suddenly, in a move nearly unprecedented in CIA covert operations, an agency-based chief in the field received a cable direct from the White House from security advisor Anthony Lake. It came the day before the planned uprising. It said, quote,

50:00 The action you have planned for this weekend has been totally compromised. We believe there is a high risk of failure. Any decision to proceed will be on your own, unquote. The message instructed Bob to tell the plotters and confirm once he was done so. Former NSC staffer Kenneth Pollack, who handled the Iraq account in the 95-96 timeframe, maintains,

50:27 that the covert operation had never been sanctioned by the White House, except there was a finding. Do you not review them? Oh, no, because you never met. But Bayer specifically notes approval by Pollack's boss, Senior Director Martin Indyk, in January of 95. Meanwhile, the Kurds, Barsani, had little reason to trust the CIA. His father had been sold out.

51:00 down the river on orders from Nixon and Kissinger. Now Barzani made common cause with Iran. Bayer saw the Iranian gear with Barzani's fighters, even Iranian militia guarding Kurdish supply points. His faction seemed already to know of the Lake Cable. So what's that say about the CIA when the Kurds preferred to work with Iran?

51:32 Versus the CIA. They don't even like Iran, by the way. They like the CIA even less. At least one faction. At the last moment, Barsani pulled out of the uprising. Talabani, furious, made only small efforts. Shalabi went ahead and his group revealed Israel weaknesses. Shalabi's efforts fizzled. That left the coup and Saddam busted it.

52:07 General Sawani saw failure all around and aborted his own effort. He took his family and fled to Syria. Robert Baer, ordered back to Washington, endured an FBI investigation for a potential violation on the ban on assassinations since the Iraqi military would surely have killed Saddam. Langley hung its man out to dry. But the CIA had never been a direct participant and Baer would be cleared.

52:40 of course. Langley had an alternative to Shalabi, the Iraqi National Accord, INA, which British intelligence had been pushing on the CIA for months. Their SIS believed Alawi had better, deeper roots in Iraq and had a better potential of success. It predated Shalabi's group and had never

53:11 like them. Alawi stayed away from the Bob plan and stepped up to the plate once it failed. If it wanted to accomplish anything, Langley had no choice but to go along. Not everyone at the agency agreed with the play both ends strategy. Warren Marek thought resorting to the UK plan amounted to using Saddam-like figures since Alawi was a former official.

53:40 of Saddam's party. But the task force at the CIA forged ahead. Stephen Ricker one day went to the White House to brief the Alawi option to Clinton officials. Lake approved it, contingent on the action being carried out by the summer of 96 to avoid interference in the all-important re-election campaign, because that's how we do covert operations. You can't interfere with the election cycle.

54:13 Because of national security. This faction sowed its metal when adherents and disaffected officers stole radios from stockpiles at the Iraqi 4th Army Corps in the south. Smuggled to the north, the gear could be used in military operations. The court also put the broadcast transmitters onto the backs of trucks and beamed its message. There were car bombs in Baghdad, Turkret, and other towns. Chief bomb maker.

54:45 based in the Kurdish zone, assembled the bombs, and activists were paid to place them places. March 96, a former chief of station of Saddam's army, General Nazar Khosrowsky, defected and threw his support behind this group. There were other silent backers too, people like the tribal leader Sheikh Qazanawi, or the politicians also joined in.

55:16 Stephen Ritker also convinced General Shawani to try his coup again and had him coordinate plans with Alawi. Langley told Congress in May that Saddam's chances for holding power were diminishing. They haven't done anything, but Director Deutsch and Ritker were the sources of this optimism. According to the UN weapons inspector, Scott Ritter,

55:46 whose disarmament teams were primed to investigate concealment activities by Saddam's special security organizations, the CIA planned to use his inspectors as triggers for the covert operation. Ritter believes that Reichter actually cut back CIA support to the UN inspectors at one point in order to prevent them from getting ahead of the coup. But Saddam's intelligence service had penetrated the operation.

56:14 In January, it reported capture of secure communication equipment. On June 26, the CIA Baghdad station in Jordan learned in a call from Iraqi security on the agency's own satellite phones that Saddam's henchmen knew all about this new project. Qubaisi fled the country. Others were apprehended by the security service, more than 200 of them.

56:43 with 80 accord members and dozens of Iraqi soldiers executed. In a TV extravaganza, six months later, the Iraqi government televised the confessions of a number of the Alawi captives, portraying the Iraqi National Accord as a CIA spy organization. Now the Kurds began fighting each other again. Thus,

57:13 Taliban factions switched sides to align with the Iranians while the Barzani forces sided with Saddam himself. The Iraqi army began attacking in August of 1996, the golden anniversary of the date of Barzani's father formed a Kurdish political movement for independence. The offensive gathered steam. Bayer's successor, CIA officer,

57:41 at Erbil fled across the Turkish border. Iraqi troops seized Qalabi's offices with their computers and files. Baghdad flung 20,300 troops and 350 tanks into the Kurdish territory. Congressmen who had talked up the possibilities against Saddam suddenly wished to be quoted more skeptically. Several hundred

58:08 Shalabi troops had worked with the CIA retreated to the Turkish border. And let me just tell you, they hate the Kurds. In fact, American diplomats met with Barzani and Turkish officials arranging refugee status for the former U.S. relief employees, everyone except the CIA fighters. Ultimately, 6,000 Kurds evacuated.

58:37 to Guam aboard a US military aircraft. Then in May of 97, US authorities arrested half a dozen of the CIA fighters on immigration charges, suspecting that Saddam had used the refugee flow to insert spies. The thought of officers like Fred Torso must have been dark indeed. Bayer had already decided to go public.

59:04 and former CIA Wolseley volunteered pro bono legal aid to the Iraqis. The case turned into a spectacle. Even this debacle did not end the sorry story of the Iraqi project, a sort of tar baby that proceeded in tandem with the overt U.S.-U.N. dealings in Baghdad on disarmament. As with the Vietnamese generals, Diem,

59:30 Washington had talked of a coup, drew back, invited actions against those that was working with it. This evoked Vietnam. Unlike Saigon, with the CIA had wired for sound, its sources in Iraq were minimal and news came secondhand. The repeated failures then compromised CIA's ability to recruit agents. You think? Conservative groups in the U.S. continue to argue for aggressive moves against Saddam.

1:00:00 Neocon Richard Perle actually gave a speech at the American Enterprise Institute denouncing CIA Stephen Ritker, not using his name, of course, demanding he be cashiered for incompetence. How dare you not kill Saddam Hussein? And in 1998 elections returned Republican majorities to the Congress, conservative push for a law to enshrine the anti-Saddam.

1:00:30 Congress voted $100 million for the project. Clinton, of course, signed it. Neither the Shalabi nor the Alawi groups had been able to topple Saddam, but they became recipients of millions and millions of U.S. dollars. Payments went on for another couple of years when auditors found irregularities.

1:00:59 in the handling of the funds. Dang, where have I heard that before? But that's when Shalabi began feeding alarming claims of Saddam's alleged nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons to the Pentagon. So I wonder who, so the CIA was paying the guy that made those claims. Yes, that's exactly what was going on. It's just part two or three or four, depending on how you're counting.

1:01:30 of a way to get rid of Saddam Hussein. The guy that's on your payroll is accusing him now of having weapons of mass destruction. The DIA got involved under the new presidency of George W. Bush. Money for Shalabi continued in spite of DIA review showing the reports were worthless. And until the Bush administration invaded Iraq in 2003,

1:02:03 to overthrow Saddam, they were using his information even though DIA had said it was worthless. The U.S. military flew Shalabi back to Baghdad and trained 70 of his troops as auxiliary. That number compared to plans to recruit 5,000 free Iraqi forces demonstrate the actual weakness of Shalabi's organization.

1:02:32 He had twice failed already to impose himself as the mayor of Baghdad, sided with Shiite militants to reinvent his career. Linked to the Ayatollah of Iran, Shalabi would later be revealed as an Iranian spy among the mix and had been handing over U.S. code data to Iran. CIA's paying him.

1:03:02 He became a figure in the U.S. installed Iraqi provisional government. Of course, he's a spy. Other Iraqi elections, Shalabi had failed to gain any seats at all for his political party, but may yet appear in the Baghdad government, which he did. Stephen Ripker's promise tarnished the Iraq operation. The tarnish had faded.

1:03:35 Once spoken of as a leading candidate for the deputy director, he was passed over for that job. Still, he became head of the DO's technology management group and received his distinctive intelligence medal. Less exalted CIA officers did not do nearly as well during George W. Bush's presidency. Others were threatened with mayhem for warning.

1:04:05 About them using Shalabi's information. Because they all knew it wasn't real. But you're just not allowed to say that out loud. Or you'll get the ire of the guy who's going to use that fake information. Knowing it's fake. To justify an invasion into Iraq. And just so that you guys know. There's lots of.

1:04:33 information out there about Israel's role in setting up the whole narrative. But you just heard that they didn't need Israel to feed that information. Of course, they feed it to the neocons here and all of the Zionists in America. It's a tag team. The CIA already had the information. They know all about the fact that it's fake because they're paying for it.

1:05:04 And that's why the disconnect between the people that everything is Israel and I'm not going to see another single thing fails to do any additional research because as soon as they find the first Israeli Zionist, that's the end of the research. That's it. It's just gets a sticker put on it and it's hung up on the wall as another one of their operations.

1:05:31 They completely ignored the entire story. And the entire story is where they got their original intelligence to use in their fake intelligence was a CIA guy that had been on the CIA payroll at this point for years that was paid to generate it for the Israelis to launder into their own media to capture the neocon.

1:05:57 Zionist in the United States. It's a multi-pronged operation. They don't operate by themselves. Not on a scale this big. So just keep that in mind. Soapbox done. What's going on? Bridget, are you there? I don't see her microphone. Let me drop her back down. She must be having trouble. Or hamster, what's going on? Howdy. Hi.

1:06:39 First of all, it's funny that you were talking about Scott Ritter. Remember the sit-rep we did with Jameson Haygood about a year and a half ago about Scott Ritter's rant about Ukraine? That's funny. So someone you just talked about in the CIA is now following me on Twitter. It's pretty much a small world. He followed me after we did that video. So that cracked me up. So here's what I was thinking about listening. I got pretty much the last 45 minutes.

1:07:06 You know, these guys are all saying we don't want to know. Don't tell us. And it's because the last thing they wanted was bad publicity, bad media. And it seems to me the CIA doesn't worry about that anymore. And I'm wondering myself, at what point in time did we stop having honest media that the CIA had to worry about? And we know they attacked Bush pretty hard during Iraq 2.0. But it seems like the full transition into the full mockingbird happened under Obama.

1:07:38 Yeah, see, I don't agree. I think my stance on this, just over, you know, back, if you go back and read news articles, there's always this. So if you look at Eisenhower and Dulles' relationship with the media, they basically handed out two scripts of

1:08:08 Here, you're going to be the good media and you're going to be the bad media. And you typically got designated media outlets that are going to carry those two different narratives, but they're both crafted narratives. And every single one of them, I mean, you can't have the whole JFK assassination without the complicit media.

1:08:36 I think it's always been at 100% bullshit. It's just a matter of them carrying on. Part of the whole propaganda narrative is that the media is on one side of this and then you have all of the neocon.

1:09:02 outlets, which aren't as many like National Review and stuff like that, on the other side of this. And you always see after the fact, the New York Times, you know, like two years after the Ukrainian thing comes out with that big, long story about, yeah, the CIA was in there immediately after the Maidan coup and set up all of these covert sites along the Donbass and was operating, giving them, you know what I mean? So they all...

1:09:30 eventually come out and say it. It's just, I know the appearances. I think they went into overdrive during Trump administration just because they view him as a real threat. George W. Bush was not a threat. They're going to do their normal, you know, oh my God, he's a Republican, how repulsive kind of thing.

1:09:56 But they didn't view him as a threat. They didn't do anything like what they've done to Trump. That's just my opinion. I mean, I understand that. I get you where you're coming from. Bush was really clear that the mainstream media supported the war until they opposed it. Yes, yes. But then how do we explain people like Seymour Hersh, who, like him or love him, he spent the last 30 years absolutely exposing deep state secrets. And he's been accurate more often than not. I mean, there are good journalists out there.

1:10:26 Yeah, but see, even him and Illini all along. Go ahead. Tell us what you think about Seymour Hersh. He has an opinion on that. Get thee behind me, Satan. Sorry. You know what? I'm sorry, Colonel. I'm being a little bit chilly. But yeah, I'm perhaps I'm a little overboard on that. I know. But just say I know you and Illini kind of aligned. Right. Well, it's to me. I mean.

1:10:56 I guess I see evaluating the sea workers in relationships to the earlier question posed by Warhamster. I mean, I know it's kind of a very generalizing sort of view, 30,000, 50,000, whatever. But I really see the period between, you know, 78 and 82 as a fundamental change in the media, you know, whereby, you know.

1:11:26 For better and worse, and again, for better and worse, there was a very, very significant amount of journalism about CIA, not just in the, you know, marginalized press, but in the Washington Post and New York Times. You know, we've been through this before, about 74 to 78. I mean, in my opinion, to answer the question, and I think it's actually a very valid question about by Warhammer because.

1:11:55 I, unlike some others, I kind of don't really see the whole question of like, oh, CIA runs the media done as cut and dried like that. I see it as evolving. And that's why it's so important. It's like, you know, chronologically, in my opinion, like, you know, when you and I talk about the CIA, we're not literally just talking about, you know, literal CIA officers. We're talking about their historical relationship with media institutions.

1:12:25 academic institution and you know blah blah blah and these things evolve over time and they get kind of like okay if you you know if the professors have already agreed to shut the fuck up about dallas in 1963 and and there were some exceptions you know those cows got that by the electric fences and you see a pattern of a decidedly less criticism among the media access you know professors

1:12:53 after the middle of 1968. And then in turn, you see a decided change, like in the amount of journalism in the Washington Post, New York Times, you know. And again, these are these are wide access journalism sites. It's like that has really, really matters, not whether it's in some like peripheral this or that targeted National Review or the Nation Editorial Board, because we know that that's a different type of propaganda.

1:13:20 But without that wide access coverage that you saw between 74 and 78, there's no way there can be any critical. You know, society can't talk about the topic in short. Right. You don't have movies about, you know, ending with Robert Redford in front of The New York Times. You know, you don't have them in 70 after 1980. You don't have them. They're there in that period. It's a cultural phenomenon, blah, blah, blah. And it's like it doesn't mean.

1:13:49 that some of these stories in the Times and Post were not limited hangouts. Unquestionably, they were. But nevertheless, in my opinion, you can't just say, dismiss them and say, because Congress was yakking about this at the same time. And it's like, this is the only time where the public was actually talking about the CIA. And that kind of matters. It doesn't matter if like...

1:14:19 This little group or that little group. It was societal access. And there's just no more journalism after like 1982 on CIA. OK, I mean, you could you could compare it. Talk specifically about Seymour Hersh. Yeah. OK, so, yeah, in my opinion. So Seymour Hersh is information about JFK is, you know, to be more specific.

1:14:49 it's it's so linked to this guy sam halpern of the right-hand man of richard helms he he was so incredibly reliant on this guy and um it's just like it's it's not an accident in my opinion that you know steve roberts comes out with these stories for you know syrian poison death that are maybe quite good or the ukrainian but it's like if he if he is you know the stuff he

1:15:19 that he writes about JFK is like so 1-800-WHAT-THE-FUCK. I mean, the stuff that he was typing about QB, about RFK knowing about Castro hit teams, that has been completely debunked utterly. But the only stuff that people hear about is the Seymour Hurst stuff. That's not an accident, right? You get people who, the people who should be picking up the full football of CA history.

1:15:47 Just believing Seymour on that. And this is aimed at the left that has been absolutely nothing other than cover up for CIA. So would you agree that he was given more access to information, but more to craft a narrative like controlled opposition? Totally. And again, he builds the credibility for that controlled opposition with other stuff.

1:16:15 that's aimed at the targeted audience that's going to get their guard down. You know, that's how they operate. It's standard operating procedure. Yeah, that's my assessment as well. Do you have any other thing that you want to say back to that war hamster? No, I mean, I think it's a really valid point. I've always wondered, you know, the whole thing about access and everything like that, and I've considered all the different possibilities.

1:16:41 I go from liking the guy to hating the guy. So it kind of fits in with what all along just said, because, yes, you know, he writes a story that I know is true and that I'll write one that I know is false. Yes. Yeah. And Colonel, I'm sorry, I'm yacking on a little too much here, but I'll try to edit myself just once before I die. To compare the Iran contract hearings versus like, you know, the mid 70s stuff. I mean, in the mid 70s, you had the leaders of the committees.

1:17:11 you know, calling witnesses, subpoenaing CIA folks and FBI folks. And by, and, and by 19, by a rape contract, I mean, you had basically that one guy from Texas, that old guy from Texas Democrat, you know, he's like clueless. And he's like, you don't know if it's stage or comedy or what, but like all the Democrats are, you know, with the Neely coverup squad, you know what I mean? They're just completely.

1:17:38 And it's like, that's a serious difference, you know, limited hangout or not, that the mid-70s was, you know, the Democrats had changed by then. And in my opinion, by Iran-Contra, you're dealing with a relationship between the CIA and media that is completely finished cooking. And maybe in the 70s, there was flux there. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. Bridget, did you want to say something?

1:18:09 I just wanted to thank all along for being theologically and historically correct. Thank you. And I absolutely was dragging myself off the floor. Oh, my God. Thank you. Sean, go ahead. Hi, Colonel. Can I talk a bit about a current event, the Iran war? Well, let me make sure everybody else has gotten all that they wanted to talk about what's going on.

1:18:39 with our lesson today. Anybody else have anything that they want to throw in there at the last minute? Nope? Okay, Sean, take it away. Okay, it seems to me the only party in this war that's benefiting from the war is Israel, right? Because it's bad for America, it's bad for Iran. And America had this cozy arrangement with the Gulf States that if you sell your oil in petrodollars... President Cheney, you got this.

1:19:08 We will provide you with security because we have an invincible military, right? But that has proven to be totally wrong because the first thing that Iran did when the war kicked off was they started shooting their drones and their missiles at their Gulf neighbors. And then they shut down the Strait of Hormuz and they block 20% of the world's oil.

1:19:33 From getting out and it caused what could be potentially a global recession, which will take about maybe a decade to recover from. And I was wondering, you know, if Israel are the only ones that are benefiting from this, what is Mossad's role in all of that? Well, obviously, I don't know what the role is because they're a secret organization. What I would say to you is your.

1:20:03 making your assertions based on the information that you have without a much larger picture of all of the different connecting pieces. This is not just about Iran. And that's the piece I think most people is not putting together. If you go out to the 30,000 foot look,

1:20:32 There's an entire enterprise operating that you can't see. We've spent the last three and a half years trying to outline what that enterprise is. Countries like Venezuela and Iran that are using oil instead of drugs for black market cash flows has mountains of illicit activity going on.

1:21:03 to them. And there's multiple generation or manufacturing of illicit funding on the market. What President Trump is trying to do is bring this entire illicit infrastructure down. So when you're a sanctioned country, you don't sell oil on the open market.

1:21:33 you trade it and there's different brokers that are number one arranging the illicit sales and then number two those illicit sales are not in the global market and can be money laundered for all types of illicit activity and if you understand how this enterprise operates

1:22:01 You understand that you have to take these terror funding, narcotic funding countries out and put them back on the open market. You cannot do that with the IRGC in place because they're terrorists. They're the old Savak and they're going to control everything.

1:22:31 They fund all types of illicit activity around the world. So what he's, and obviously the approach was Venezuela. Initially was the exact same approach with Iran. You send people in and have discussions. And they obviously found people in Venezuela that didn't want to destroy their country and would work.

1:22:57 in order to give you a prize, which is Maduro, leave the government and the country intact, bring all of their oil back into the open market so there's not illicit. And then he rounded up, if you haven't been paying attention, there was just several people that were the intermediaries in those illicit oil deals that were just indicted and arrested for money laundering.

1:23:24 And so when you are able to take that entire network down, number one, but leave the country intact, then great. So the next node in that operation is Iran. I don't know if you're aware of, but Iran had been dealing directly with Venezuela for several years through illicit swaps.

1:23:52 And so there's going to be an entire network that comes down once you get down to the level of someone in Iran that not only wants Iran to function as a country, because somebody inside of it does, whoever that is, it's not controlled by the CIA like Pavlovi is, but there's somebody in there.

1:24:16 They've obviously been talking to someone. There's a couple of the people that they were talking to that got assassinated by the IRGC. And so if you look at who has been targeted internal to Iran, they've taken out almost all of the leadership of the IRGC. Now we know that they work autonomously in networks throughout that country.

1:24:40 like decentralized command and control, it's going to be much messier in Iran. They have taken out none of the army generals, which tells me that more than likely it is that senior military leadership that somehow is communicating with the Trump administration. Obviously, I don't know how, but there are...

1:25:08 um people inside of the iran infrastructure that is talking um it's just a matter of how long it's going to take for that to happen but if you're gonna that's that's the piece that i think everybody misses this whole thing has been set up for

1:25:27 It's approximately 100 years, but it went into full steam after World War II, this entire network of illicit garbage. And if you're going to bring that system down, which it has to come down, you have to do it in a very methodical way of bringing these nodes down. The other piece that most people don't talk about is the...

1:25:54 And I know I've overused this analogy. Until I come up with another one, I'm going to continue to use it. When that operation that Iran was running got basically shut down, there's none of that illicit oil hitting the market right now. He tried to let them use it, but they decided that they just wanted to keep throwing missiles all over. Everything that's...

1:26:24 operating off of that illicit funding downstream gets lit up. There's communications that gets captured. And they're mapping out a network that had survived off of that operation. They did the exact same thing in Venezuela. They're doing the exact same thing with the narcotics. Everything upstream and downstream lights up because you intercept.

1:26:51 the flow of illicit funding. And so if you just wanna look at oil and only oil, your points are valid, but we're not talking about just oil here. We're talking about an international worldwide network that is being funded in the black covert realm that has to be taken down. That's what I have to say about it.

1:27:22 Warhamster, go ahead, and then we'll go to all along. Yeah, I'm pretty much on the same page with the colonel on this. You know, right when the Venezuela stuff started, you know, we recognize the Venezuelans selling their oil to China. We know about the Chinese-Cuban connection. We know about the Iranian-Chinese connection. So I've always looked at this as a shot across the bow at China. But at the same time, you know, Trump's big picture battle is basically to defeat the one world government.

1:27:51 And the net effect of all these foreign policy actions has been the Don Roe doctrine. You look at the whole Western Hemisphere, more and more countries in South and Central America are turning to, quote unquote, right-wing governments. And Brazil is going to be next on the menu, I guarantee it. And Lulu was just here. That's what I'd be keeping an eye on right now. But if you look at, you know, basically, you know, his job is to...

1:28:17 preserve American sovereignty and the whole concept of a nation state, all of these actions are dismantling these globalist networks and their underground networks. The globalists are furious about this. And to me, that's the big picture. And it leads me to believe, once again, that China is still part of the whole globalist picture. Ever since Rockefeller got there in 71 and opened up China, they've always been part of that picture as we send our jobs over there, etc.

1:28:46 It all follows that narrative. And I know the argument, you know, what is it, the whole sovereign alliance narrative. I think this goes against it. And it tells us more that, you know, we are going to survive as a nation state and the Western Hemisphere is going to be hands off the globalists. That's what I see happening. Yeah. And it makes perfect sense to stabilize the entire region. He wants a stable Middle East. If you can get a responsible government in Iran, the whole world benefits.

1:29:14 I mean, it really, all you need is, you don't even have, you just need a responsible government there. And it really, really lowers tensions everywhere and robs China of its most important ally. And let me also say that with the embedding of the Zionist movement in the United States, if, as I've always suggested.

1:29:39 Israel's place post-World War II was to be the destabilization of the Middle East so that if you need to attack anyone there, the CIA just runs in, stages a false flag. Israeli is the go-to counterattack. So then the entire region is destabilized. Then you've got control of the oil and all of this stuff.

1:30:06 through Israel they've been able to control the Middle East and they've set Iran up as the counter just like we were just talking about with the media they control both sides of this in order to be able to have these destabilization activities and if you take Iran out of the destabilization you have no

1:30:32 reason for Israel to continue their very aggressive and I believe completely controlled by the same apparatus of the destabilization. Because who are they going to then say is the boogeyman over there? You have to have a boogeyman always. So Iran has played that part for the better part of the last three or four decades. And if you take that down before you address

1:31:03 Israel it makes perfect sense strategically to take that off the table it's just like you had to take Venezuela off the table if you can find people to work with you there in order to deal with Cuba

1:31:20 This is all being rolled out in a much more strategic way than most people can see because they don't understand all of the history of the interconnectedness of this network. All along, go ahead.

1:31:51 It's kind of questionable, more so than we are led to believe, because if you think back at how, like, the U.S. was trying to get, and to some extent England also, right, was trying to get, you know, an alignment of these nation states that really are not rooted in the Arab population. They're imposed by the British and the French. And so there's always this sort of cross-town traffic going with, for example, Nasser's pan-Arabism. Yeah.

1:32:22 You know, that that impacted the entire Middle East. And sometimes it was toned down, the beef between NASA and Saudi Arabia, which was basically Roquefort and the Rainbow, right? And Chase. Right. And sometimes it wasn't. And, you know, that's why Dallas was so important, because now, you know, NASA could no longer be. There could be a kind of parallelism between.

1:32:51 Israel and Saudi Arabia getting along with both of them, whereas earlier Nasser's forces would have called that out in Syria when he made the alliance with the UAE, which also had ties to Yemen, right? Because Saudi Arabia was fighting a civil war in Yemen versus the alternative was promoted by Nasser's secular pan-Arabism, which is mostly what threatened the U.S.

1:33:18 british oil companies and basically the internet the petroleum order the most was nasa's pan-israel because it wasn't about religion it was about um the oil and that could tilt the entire region into destabilization right exactly so that you couldn't have like you know saddam hussein coming to power too early in iraq because there would have been a then they would have both been you know back parties there at the same time so it may have even been you know advantageous as crazy as it sounds

1:33:47 Like between 58 and 63 for Iraq to be led by a nominal communist, because at least it meant less, you know, continuity, you know, across the region. And so basically, like in all of these countries, you know, it's we have to remember that these are not the Arabs talking here. And it's that it's the international chessboard makers who are not just looking at it one country versus another country, but like whether, you know.

1:34:16 The Shiite elements across the Middle East, including Lebanon, will be activated or pacified in a new political arrangement. You can't really look at these countries one at a time. And this, you know, that has to be considered before you just say, oh, the only ones benefiting are Israel. That's not, you know, that's not how the region has played itself out, you know, since World War II. I mean, of course, but on the other hand, you know, Israel does play a very, very important role as a headache ball.

1:34:45 They're guilty of genocide unquestionably, and the emotional power that that should generate in response to the genocide can be very useful in creating this, in distracting from the CIA regional aspects of the operation. It's very, very useful. I mean, to me, again, it's not a coincidence for me the first time I saw any left-righters, because, you know, leftists are...

1:35:14 The purported fake left press is not allowed to talk about JFK. And when do they start? Oh, as soon as they can blame it all on Israel. It's just like that's that's not a coincidence. You know, there's 40 year patterns of that media. And it's like this is some sort of this is an overall psychological work there to paralyze the domestic population here in the US. So that is like the centipede. It's tangled up in its legs and it cannot unite on anything that can appeal to it to a large majority.

1:35:43 The first dumbass question has to be, oh, do you support Hamas or some stupid, you know, that's by design. Israel first makes, again, the journey of a thousand miles stop with the first long step. You're dealing with master propaganda. It doesn't mean that Israel is not, in my opinion, evil. And again, because they're committing a genocide. But again, how can you use the emotional response to that evil again?

1:36:12 to distract from the CIA's regional focus, which is getting zero attention right now. And to your point, I think what you just said is critical because, again, if you span out, as soon as the narrative became Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, what happened in the United States? You had all of these fake Palestinian people.

1:36:42 hit the streets with their Palestinian flag, and then they became the narrative, not the genocide. And that's planned. That is on purpose. It's a psychological operation. So don't look over here, look over here. And again, you have to look at all of these moving pieces, which the thrust of the...

1:37:08 social media and the controlled media is to keep your focus on one thing and you miss all of the other things that are going on. It's a very important lesson, but...

1:37:28 The whole purpose of having these conversations is so that we can flush out what all of the moving pieces are and what we're seeing based on historical ways that these operations have ran in the past. So we don't fall into that same pattern.

1:37:48 of looking over there we pay attention to all of the moving pieces um because what we have discovered is there's like 10 moving pieces and they only want you to focus on one um at the expense of the rest of them go ahead all along yeah just one brief notes in response to the palestinian protest i mean i i think it's important that we remember at least in my view maybe not others that you know you have to distinguish between the protesters who are

1:38:17 In my opinion, you know, I could be protesting a genocide, but, you know, you have to distinguish between that and how, you know, the operation is being, you know, created in terms of a media psychological warfare operation. I mean, just as like, for example, one could say that there were aspects of, you know, January 6th that were, you know, planned as a...

1:38:46 psychological warfare operation if you will and that doesn't necessarily mean that the people who who all of the people who were there were you know part of it this is kind of obvious that what i'm saying here but it really has to be stated they infiltrate it to co-opt it it's the same thing with occupy wall street if you talk to the original people that were there they had legitimate gripes

1:39:12 But that's not going to be allowed to happen and maintain its organic nature because they're going to then infiltrate it and co-opt it to what they want it to be. You're absolutely right. And that's a good point. If you have a small group, but when they show up in mass and they all have the same signs, it's not organic people. So anyway, okay.

1:39:47 That was a lively discussion. All right, if that's it, we're gonna close up shop for today. You guys have a great weekend. We will have a Tommy podcast tomorrow. It'll probably be out around noon with the old gang. We haven't been together in a few weeks. So we're gonna get together tomorrow morning, I think at 10. So he usually gets it out a couple of hours later.

1:40:16 So I would look for that around noon or one o'clock. I'll repost it whenever he is done with whatever it is he does with it. And let me just do a real quick look ahead. I did want to tell you guys, I got contacted right after I was on the Alex Jones.

1:40:41 I don't know whether this is gonna pan out or not, but evidently there's this, it's their second annual conference. It's over in Hawaii and no, I'm not going. But I was asked to be a part of it and I'll have more details. It's not until like the end of June, but if that pans out, there will be.

1:41:06 Like I said, I'll give you more details. On Sunday, I will be doing part two with Ben Kelleran. We started a walkthrough Gladio timeline. We started with the basic last Sunday, this Sunday, and he does record them. So it'll be out probably Monday or Tuesday. We're gonna start talking about the initial CIA operations and Illini's not here, but kudos to him.

1:41:36 We'll talk about the 1948 CIA intervention in the Italian elections and a couple of other 1948 operations. And we're going to just, you know, how we started this whole series was on X, was talking about it geographically in a time phase. But we're just going to jump all over the world in a time sequenced series modeled.

1:42:04 off of William Bloom's Killing Hope book and kind of just walk through. Obviously, there's a few more things in that book, but we've pretty much covered them all. But having a series out there, and I will be posting them on my Rumble channel as well.

1:42:22 to have a chronological order that people could start at the beginning and just start to see how this whole thing unfolded and the different pieces involved so that they can start seeing patterns to number one, why did they get involved in something? Who benefited from it? And then how the operation was conducted. We're just gonna kind of dissect them all, which we kind of did, like I said, at the beginning of this.

1:42:51 two or three years ago, but we did it regionally. So there's that. I think all of the rest of this is just our normal four o'clock for next week. And then of course, we will do our Hagel episode on Friday at noon with Warhamster next Friday. So that's kind of the week in the upcoming week.

1:43:23 pattern. And if it changes, I'll let you know. All right, you guys have a nice weekend. Take care, everybody.

Entities here

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Claims made here

James Woolsey member_of Project for the New American Century host_asserted ▶ 3:00

“Woolsey is the CIA director that they finally arrested Aldrich Ames for basically being a spy inside the CIA. So you can't make that up. He, after he moves on from the CIA director's job, he becomes a…”

James Woolsey worked_with Robert McFarlane host_asserted ▶ 4:01

“So he was there for other reasons, just FYI. He also worked with Robert McFarlane, the guy running Iran-Contra, to create an Energy Security Council, which seems a bit odd. He's done all kinds of othe…”

James Woolsey sat_on_advisory_boards_with Dick Cheney host_asserted ▶ 4:29

“He sat on advisory boards with Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, Jacob Rothschild. He was hired as a spokesperson for NBC, which is basically CIA. So, yeah, he's very, very interesting.…”

James Woolsey sat_on_advisory_boards_with Rupert Murdoch host_asserted ▶ 4:29

“He sat on advisory boards with Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, Jacob Rothschild. He was hired as a spokesperson for NBC, which is basically CIA. So, yeah, he's very, very interesting.…”

James Woolsey sat_on_advisory_boards_with Jacob Rothschild host_asserted ▶ 4:29

“He sat on advisory boards with Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, Jacob Rothschild. He was hired as a spokesperson for NBC, which is basically CIA. So, yeah, he's very, very interesting.…”

James Woolsey accused Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 4:57

“In a book that he wrote, this is very interesting, in 2021, now this is the CIA director. He's got access to all of the classified information. He, in a book that was published in 2021, accused the So…”

James Woolsey represented Claire George book_quoted ▶ 5:58

“He had a legal role representing Charlie Allen trying to buck a reprimand for being involved in Iran-Contra. In 1992, Woolsey would have been better recognized as a Jackson Democrat, referring to Wash…”

James Woolsey collaborated_with Brent Scowcroft book_quoted ▶ 6:33

“He had set on presidential commissions during the Reagan era when Brent Scowcroft brought Woolsey onto a group to study nuclear forces. He and Scowcroft collaborated on articles advocating basically t…”

James Woolsey contributed_to Michael Dukakis book_quoted ▶ 8:02

“and had been an army officer during Vietnam. He contributed policy advice to Michael Dukakis' presidential campaign in 1988 and had done the same for Clinton in 92. That summer, Sandy Berger, who coor…”

James Woolsey contributed_to Bill Clinton book_quoted ▶ 8:02

Bill Clinton wanted_to_appoint Dave McCurdy book_quoted ▶ 8:32

“more robust views on national security and defense than our party typically projected, unquote. The group which endorsed Clinton included Woolsey. So accordingly to the book, Clinton listened to all o…”

Dave McCurdy refused CIA book_quoted ▶ 9:04

“as the director of the CIA, but McCurdy refused. The congressman probably recommended Woolsey. McCurdy headed an advocacy group in which Woolsey participated as his deputy. Woolsey had also known Les …”

Dave McCurdy recommended James Woolsey book_quoted ▶ 9:04

Sandy Berger summoned James Woolsey book_quoted ▶ 9:04

James Woolsey appointed CIA book_quoted ▶ 9:37

“for what the Washington lawyer expected as a consultation, not to be appointed as the CIA director, but Clinton offered him the job. Woolsey is said to have gotten off on the wrong foot. He proved unl…”

James Woolsey warned United States book_quoted ▶ 9:59

“Barely a week before Woolsey's confirmation hearing, a Pakistani extremist went on a shooting spree at a road intersection outside of CIA headquarters, throwing Langley into a rage as two agency offic…”

James Woolsey argued_for United States book_quoted ▶ 10:28

“Woolsey used that analogy to argue that Americans, instead of enjoying Cold War dividends and a reduction in intelligence budgets, ought to spend as much or more, of course, because now we've got this…”

James Woolsey announced CIA book_quoted ▶ 11:39

“deteriorated even more. Woolsey proved wooden with the spooks, endearing no one. He raised hackles among the secrecy cult at Langley when he announced the CIA would declassify Cold War records, includ…”

James Woolsey tried_to_take Bill Clinton book_quoted ▶ 12:13

“The hysteria followed his initiating personnel cuts during a government-wide review that had been ordered. Woolsey wanted them deeper and quicker. Actually, Woolsey directed the cuts away from the DO,…”

James Woolsey initiated CIA book_quoted ▶ 12:13

CIA involved_in Haiti book_quoted ▶ 13:15

“at Langley when controversy broke out over the CIA in Haiti. Troubles on that Caribbean island had been brewing for months. In fact, Americans trapped in the dish at Mogadishu consoled themselves by l…”

CIA linked_to Haiti book_quoted ▶ 13:43

“And remember, Aristide is the guy the CIA doesn't like. They try to get him out of office more than once. Questions arose about the links between the CIA and the group of thugs and militia spearheadin…”

CIA asset_of Haiti book_quoted ▶ 13:43

CIA tried_to_remove Jean-Bertrand Aristide host_asserted ▶ 13:43

Brian Lattell briefed United States book_quoted ▶ 14:22

“Then Brian Lattell, a senior CIA analyst, briefed Congress on the agency's psychological profile of Aristide, noting that he was mentally unstable. We've heard that before. No one could confirm. They …”

Nancy Soderbergh scored Jean-Bertrand Aristide book_quoted ▶ 14:56

“on Langley's face, telling a television audience the CIA had great relationships in Haiti. At the White House, Nancy Soderbergh of the NSC staff scored the Eriskeed profile a textbook case of politica…”

James Woolsey replaced Tom Fitton book_quoted ▶ 14:56

James Woolsey denied Haiti book_quoted ▶ 14:56

Aldrich Ames arrested CIA book_quoted ▶ 15:58

“Within months, the arrest of Aldrich Ames called Price's leadership into question. Oh, you didn't notice you had a spy? Woolsey defended Price and spent a good deal of energy on the Directorate of Ope…”

CIA closed Africa book_quoted ▶ 16:29

“but hadn't had a lot to show for it. Covert action fell under the DO spending plan and four to five months paramilitary course at Camp Perry was cut back. The directorate closed 15 stations in Africa.…”

West Germany asked_for_recall_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 17:01

“a dozen station chiefs were replaced for cause, meaning they were basically fired but not fired. In Cyprus, a chief had stolen a religious icon. In Bonn, the German government asked for one to be reca…”

France asked_for_recall_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 17:01

CIA station_chief_drew_pistol_in Peru book_quoted ▶ 17:01

CIA replaced Cyprus book_quoted ▶ 17:01

Janine Bruckner replaced CIA book_quoted ▶ 17:38

“Involved there was Richard Holm and Milt Bearden. In Jamaica, a woman chief of station, Janine Bruckner, was replaced after reporting one of her officers for abusing his wife. So you got fired for rep…”

Janine Bruckner filed_lawsuit_against CIA book_quoted ▶ 18:10

“back at Langley. Bruckner would file a lawsuit. The agency had already begun a glass ceiling study and eventually confirmed antidotes and basically confirmed what she was saying. For every CIA female …”

CIA settled_lawsuit_with Janine Bruckner book_quoted ▶ 18:43

“like actually be in a leadership position. The class action lawsuit resulted. Both suits were settled against the agency because Woolsey wanted them off his desk, but they went on his blotter. Field o…”

CIA investigated_handling_of Aldrich Ames book_quoted ▶ 19:14

“Then you had the African Americans. About the same time, there was reported barely two dozen active black officers that were case officers in a cadre of 1,800 to 2,000. And then they wondered why they…”

CIA attempted_coup_against Saddam Hussein host_asserted ▶ 37:41

“the CIA group together with the Kurds and the fundamentalist Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. For the moment, Alawi was excluded. Soon the rumor came out of London from an Iraqi exi…”

CIA funded Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq host_asserted ▶ 37:41

George H.W. Bush targeted_for_regime_change Saddam Hussein documented ▶ 39:01

“They wanted to cut the Iraqi project. Suddenly, a fax campaign erupted with appeal letters appearing all over Washington, particularly on Capitol Hill. Congress restored much of the money for the coup…”

Bill Clinton ordered_assassination_of Saddam Hussein host_asserted ▶ 39:30

“virtually assured the project's continuation. Imagine that. So if I need an excuse, I just stage an attempted assassination and I can secure my funding. No problem. President Clinton struck the headqu…”

CIA funded Ahmad Chalabi host_asserted ▶ 40:01

“was right. Most of the CIA's cash went for the care and feeding of the exiles, which it always does, kind of like the Cuban exiles and the Venezuelan exiles. That might have been all right if the CIA …”

CIA supplied_arms_to Ahmad Chalabi host_asserted ▶ 43:33

“for a coup on a schedule were what led the CIA astray. Merrick later recalled, we lost our way. Shalabi's plan looked to fit the demands for a schedule. Merrick did not go up or down on the plan, but …”

Robert Baer headed Operation Achilles host_asserted ▶ 47:33

“The other was Jalal-Talibani. They were at each other's throats. Shalabi decided the only way to bridge the differences was to have everyone fight Saddam. He activated his scheme for an uprising. Proj…”

Anthony Lake covered_up Operation Achilles documented ▶ 50:00

“The action you have planned for this weekend has been totally compromised. We believe there is a high risk of failure. Any decision to proceed will be on your own, unquote. The message instructed Bob …”

Martin Indyk funded Operation Achilles guest_asserted ▶ 50:27

“that the covert operation had never been sanctioned by the White House, except there was a finding. Do you not review them? Oh, no, because you never met. But Bayer specifically notes approval by Poll…”

Kenneth Pollack covered_up Operation Achilles guest_asserted ▶ 50:27

Henry Kissinger traded_network_to Iran host_asserted ▶ 51:00

“down the river on orders from Nixon and Kissinger. Now Barzani made common cause with Iran. Bayer saw the Iranian gear with Barzani's fighters, even Iranian militia guarding Kurdish supply points. His…”

Massoud Barzani traded_network_to Iran host_asserted ▶ 51:00

Richard Nixon traded_network_to Iran host_asserted ▶ 51:00

Saddam Hussein covered_up Abdullah al-Sawani host_asserted ▶ 52:07

“General Sawani saw failure all around and aborted his own effort. He took his family and fled to Syria. Robert Baer, ordered back to Washington, endured an FBI investigation for a potential violation …”

Inter-Services Intelligence funded Iraqi National Accord host_asserted ▶ 52:40

“of course. Langley had an alternative to Shalabi, the Iraqi National Accord, INA, which British intelligence had been pushing on the CIA for months. Their SIS believed Alawi had better, deeper roots i…”

CIA funded Iraqi National Accord host_asserted ▶ 52:40

Anthony Lake funded Iraqi National Accord host_asserted ▶ 53:40

“of Saddam's party. But the task force at the CIA forged ahead. Stephen Ricker one day went to the White House to brief the Alawi option to Clinton officials. Lake approved it, contingent on the action…”

Saddam Hussein covered_up Iraqi National Accord host_asserted ▶ 56:14

“In January, it reported capture of secure communication equipment. On June 26, the CIA Baghdad station in Jordan learned in a call from Iraqi security on the agency's own satellite phones that Saddam'…”

Saddam Hussein assassinated Iraqi National Accord host_asserted ▶ 56:43

“with 80 accord members and dozens of Iraqi soldiers executed. In a TV extravaganza, six months later, the Iraqi government televised the confessions of a number of the Alawi captives, portraying the I…”

Saddam Hussein covered_up Ahmad Chalabi host_asserted ▶ 57:41

“at Erbil fled across the Turkish border. Iraqi troops seized Qalabi's offices with their computers and files. Baghdad flung 20,300 troops and 350 tanks into the Kurdish territory. Congressmen who had …”

United States funded Ahmad Chalabi documented ▶ 1:00:30

“Congress voted $100 million for the project. Clinton, of course, signed it. Neither the Shalabi nor the Alawi groups had been able to topple Saddam, but they became recipients of millions and millions…”

Ahmad Chalabi spied_on Saddam Hussein host_asserted ▶ 1:00:59

“in the handling of the funds. Dang, where have I heard that before? But that's when Shalabi began feeding alarming claims of Saddam's alleged nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons to the Pentagon.…”

George H.W. Bush attempted_coup_against Saddam Hussein documented ▶ 1:01:30

“of a way to get rid of Saddam Hussein. The guy that's on your payroll is accusing him now of having weapons of mass destruction. The DIA got involved under the new presidency of George W. Bush. Money …”

Ahmad Chalabi spied_on United States host_asserted ▶ 1:02:32

“He had twice failed already to impose himself as the mayor of Baghdad, sided with Shiite militants to reinvent his career. Linked to the Ayatollah of Iran, Shalabi would later be revealed as an Irania…”

Seymour Hersh exposed Robert Kennedy assassination host_asserted ▶ 1:14:19

“This little group or that little group. It was societal access. And there's just no more journalism after like 1982 on CIA. OK, I mean, you could you could compare it. Talk specifically about Seymour …”

Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps member_of SAVAK host_asserted ▶ 1:22:01

“You understand that you have to take these terror funding, narcotic funding countries out and put them back on the open market. You cannot do that with the IRGC in place because they're terrorists. Th…”

Iran trafficked Venezuela host_asserted ▶ 1:23:24

“And so when you are able to take that entire network down, number one, but leave the country intact, then great. So the next node in that operation is Iran. I don't know if you're aware of, but Iran h…”

Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps assassinated Iran host_asserted ▶ 1:24:16

“They've obviously been talking to someone. There's a couple of the people that they were talking to that got assassinated by the IRGC. And so if you look at who has been targeted internal to Iran, the…”

Iran trafficked China host_asserted ▶ 1:27:22

“Warhamster, go ahead, and then we'll go to all along. Yeah, I'm pretty much on the same page with the colonel on this. You know, right when the Venezuela stuff started, you know, we recognize the Vene…”

Venezuela trafficked China host_asserted ▶ 1:27:22

John D. Rockefeller funded China host_asserted ▶ 1:28:17

“preserve American sovereignty and the whole concept of a nation state, all of these actions are dismantling these globalist networks and their underground networks. The globalists are furious about th…”

Israel carried_out_attack Iran host_asserted ▶ 1:29:39

“Israel's place post-World War II was to be the destabilization of the Middle East so that if you need to attack anyone there, the CIA just runs in, stages a false flag. Israeli is the go-to counteratt…”

Gamal Abdel Nasser targeted_for_regime_change Saudi Arabia host_asserted ▶ 1:32:22

“You know, that that impacted the entire Middle East. And sometimes it was toned down, the beef between NASA and Saudi Arabia, which was basically Roquefort and the Rainbow, right? And Chase. Right. An…”

Gamal Abdel Nasser targeted_for_regime_change Yemen host_asserted ▶ 1:32:51

“Israel and Saudi Arabia getting along with both of them, whereas earlier Nasser's forces would have called that out in Syria when he made the alliance with the UAE, which also had ties to Yemen, right…”

Gamal Abdel Nasser targeted_for_regime_change Syria host_asserted ▶ 1:32:51

Gamal Abdel Nasser targeted_for_regime_change Iran host_asserted ▶ 1:33:18

“british oil companies and basically the internet the petroleum order the most was nasa's pan-israel because it wasn't about religion it was about um the oil and that could tilt the entire region into …”