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0:00 welcome to the fabian society part two with war hamster brady well i've got it as a part five since we started them but getting into the founders is the second part of that biology this is gonna be a fun one we are going to get to finally what people i call the four horsemen of the fabian apocalypse their four main founders you want to just

0:27 Yeah, like that. Before we dive in, I got to show I got to play a little show and tell for you. And then we'll jump into it. So I told you my company's been working on a bunch of AI tools to help with research. I want to show you exactly what that's starting to look like. It's not quite to the point where we can use it for a show. Okay. This is kind of what the big board looks like. And if we zoom in, you can see you got all the influences between Darwin evolution.

1:06 Mill, Owen, Comte, the Fellowship of New Life. That's Jetsons over here, the Fabian Society, all their methods, economics, network logic. Takes us in here to the people I'm showing, Bernard Shaw. This is all done through the prompts and the research that I had the AI engine do. And I can use a voice prompt or I can just type in questions and have them make adjustments, move things around.

1:34 and as i do research i can tell look you know add findings of this article blah blah blah and it almost happens in real time wow that's amazing about a week away from being able to present off of these boards alone and i think it'll be i think it'll be a better visual experience and um so that's it that's awesome looks pretty good huh yeah that's amazing yeah and well right now uh we're gonna over the weekend i'm gonna try to get it to

2:03 put boards up like all over a previous episode like on skull skull and bones and scrolling key i'm gonna get that mapped out and then i might have i might have them try to do one of those for you for um you know it's the entire history of gladio that would be amazing i can do it in a matter of hours but yeah and then of course you get the ability to do two prompts when it's ready to go to when this stuff's ready i'll get you access to it so you can do that with your own research i'm still learning it but it's

2:34 I'm pleased with where my tech guys got us so fast. Cool. So let's jump into some Fabians. Okay. We are going to start with a woman who is not one of the four horsemen, but she's still worth talking about. This is Miss Annie Besant. Got her up there? Okay. She's born in 1847 and lives to 1933, aged 85. Colonel made a comment before we started.

3:15 You want to go ahead and say it? That I was amazed at how long all of these evil people lived. Yeah, and it's every single one of these babies we've been going through living in their 80s or 90s. And we're kind of joking that I guess it's easy to live a long time when you live that life of luxury as an intellectual elite. And either that or, as we joke, maybe they're drinking baby's blood. I'm not going there.

3:48 all right let's why is annie important oops where'd you go annie who's up there she's okay now my notes um oh she's born annie wood and married a guy by name passant who wasn't all that interesting to me she's a socialist of course really well known as what's called a theosophist we've talked a little bit about theosophy but i wanted to bring this up because it does impact fabian socialism

4:22 Theosophy, established in the 1900s, I'm sorry, 1800s, was founded by a Russian guy in the U.S. by name of a girl, I mean, Helena Blavatsky. And it's kind of an occult religion, quasi-religion, and it draws from like some older European philosophies like Neoplatonism and borrows a lot of Indian religions, like draws from both Hindu and Buddhism.

4:50 she would end up co-authoring a book called Occult Chemistry. So these, just like the secret societies, the Fabians definitely have a foot in the door of occultism. And that matters because the occult and intelligence goes all the way back to the Greek days with the oracles, like the Oracle of Delphi. That was all occult. And it was also very much done with...

5:19 tied into espionage and intrigue. So I wanted to make that connection that from day one, the Fabians were into the occult. And what's interesting about that is when you see her name in some of this literature, it is generally with someone who is participating in normal religion. Like one of the first times she's mentioned in the Fabian Freeway, it's in conjunction with a reverend.

5:49 from a normal church. And that's, to me, is very disturbing. Yeah, it disturbs me as well. And this circles back to what we talked about earlier, what they called a socialist Christianity, or was it? Well, yeah. I think Christian socialist is what they called them. Yeah. And that's an oxymoron. That's exactly what I was going to say. It's a contradiction in terms. Yes.

6:21 She also became very active opening up lodges as a co-freemason. The co-freemasons allow women, and they're huge. They were very much open to people of other races and, of course, women to be allowed. Regular Masonic lodges kind of frown at co-freemasons. They do not accept them. She was into that, opening up all kinds of lodges. So secret society stuff, there's a huge Scottish Rites influence in the co-freemasons.

6:52 Fair enough. Yes. She's a women's rights activist, an educationalist, an Indian nationalist. She was fought really hard for giving Indians dots, not feathers, give them the right to rule themselves. Very adequate. What's that? Dots, not feathers. OK, go ahead. She's built on Irish home rule. That was a big discussion at this point in time.

7:29 with a guy by the name of Charles Bradlaw. She was in the National Secular Society, the NSC. And the two of her and Bradlaw would form a publishing firm. She was really well known for her oratory, public reform work, and anti-establishment activism. Basically, she was a loud mouth. She's one of those women who would get down and get up on stage and just screech at you nonstop. But she was very, very impactful.

8:05 We needed to talk about it because she links Fabianism to the spiritualist, esoteric and the anti-colonial networks that we would see develop into the 20th century. And let me say a couple of things. Number one, she spent a lot of time in Boston. And that's important, especially during this time period. Also, she was on the London school board in London.

8:36 And again, this is very disturbing. And the initial phases of their integration of this philosophy into the education system. And just as a side note, at the beginning of Fabian, they use the word nationalist a lot, to your point that you just made. They don't mean nationalist the way we mean nationalist, though.

9:06 This is one of the first instances of them co-opting words. Later on, they co-opt the word democracy. They don't mean actual democracy, as you and I, not even like the 51% rule. They don't mean that. This is a use of their wolf in sheep's clothing.

9:33 They use words that to everybody else has one meeting. But when they're talking amongst themselves, they know how we're going to take it. Because if you talk about nationalism in America, we think you're talking about making our country like America first. That's not the way they mean it at all. You have to be very, very careful when you read their literature to actually understand.

10:02 Fabian Freeway does a really good job of saying, yeah, they're using this word, but it's not really that word. And we see that they still do that today. Every single day. We have to save our democracy. It's worn down. So Annie, going back in time a bit, she had that printing firm and her and her partner got prosecuted in 1877 for publishing a book about birth control.

10:30 uh by a birth control campaigner named charles nobelton this is eugenics people and she's gets in trouble by the authorities for publishing the book she then would get involved in union actions uh big one she was there for probably one of the instigators was bloody sunday uh bloody sunday was in uh 1887 early 1880s over the irish coercion acts there was like 400 arrests and 75 badly injured nobody dead

11:01 I don't know how they got the name Bloody Sunday, but it was not quite as bloody as the name makes it seem. But it was a real big turning point in the Irish movement. She was also part of what's called the Match Girls Strike in 1888, where she was instigating a bunch of people to strike for better wages, shorter days, that kind of stuff. She was always there on the front lines. She would join the Fabians in 1885 after she met George Bernard Shaw, who was one of our four horsemen.

11:32 Later on, she would kind of grow into more of a Marxist than a Fabianist. And then she'd start traveling. As the colonel mentioned, she spent a lot of time in the U.S. and Boston. She also went to Australia and New Zealand. And then she would get involved in India. And, you know, this is this whole egalitarian, you know, we've got to stick up for the poor thing, which is not necessarily rooted in evil, but doesn't always turn out the way they're intended.

12:03 And you'll see later on, you know, they don't care that the ends justify the means. So, oh, I feel that this is a good opportunity. It doesn't matter what I have to do to get to my, you know, my good result. And that's where they become problematic is the ends justify the means. So in India, she sets up something called the Central Hindu College, where they taught theosophy, occult mysticism to a bunch of Indian boys. And from that, there's a special student there, a guy by the name of Jiddu Krishnamurti.

12:36 who basically she deemed the world teacher and started the World Teacher Project. This is going to be the guru of our theosophical religion. Well, Jiddu kind of went along with it for about 20 years and then sort of went his own direction, although he stayed friends with Annie Besant the whole time. But you'll see like, you know, we've seen this in Hollywood and other people got more time on their hands. They get into these spiritual religions and stuff like that.

13:04 The World Teacher Project was foundational in that. And these are all made-up religions in the 19th century. And Annie Besant was one of the ones who really pushed that. Okay, let's go to our next first horseman, Edward R. Peace, 1857 to 1955. That's 98 years old. No, 97, I guess. And again, back at that time, that's crazy. Yeah. This guy is born a Quaker.

13:44 And that's going to matter. Quakers are an interesting lot. I have a neighbor who's a Quaker practicing. He's an interesting character. So Peace was a co-founder of the Fabian Society and basically the society's administrative backbone. He was their secretary from 1890 to 1913. So most of the years we're covering, he basically was the administrator.

14:13 He was also, we mentioned this earlier, the author of The History of the Fabian Society, which was printed in 1916. He was the editor of Fabian News. He's a representative at the Labor Representation Committee, the LRC, and that would become the British Labour Party. So that's 1900, right before the founding of the British Labour Party. And he's there. Of course, he's a co-founder of the London School of Economics. And he, along with the Webb's, were the trustees.

14:49 of what was called the henry hutchinson bequest which they used to fund the london school of economics peace was important financially because he was linked to um the quaker commercial world with the fry family connection and broader quaker networks how he got involved is he became friends with a couple people we mentioned last week frank podmore and the blans in the early 1880s and they told invited him to the fabian meetings and so he was at 1884 one of the original members this is fun

15:24 In 1886, he receives a large inheritance and allows him to give up work. Where were you working? Oh, the London Stock Exchange. Being a capitalist. Yeah, being a capitalist and fighting for socialism. Gotta love that. So basically, he gets his inheritance and now he gets to spend the rest of his life on his socialist interests. But he's now well-funded and Fabians are obviously not poor. He would try to form something called the National Labor Federation, trying to get all the unions organized. That didn't work.

15:57 It failed in a couple of years. So he was one of the early members of the Independent Labor Party, which would form what's called Labor Representation and the committee to become the Labor Party. He did get married to a Mary Gamal Davidson. They had two kids. One was a geneticist named Michael S. Peace, which I find interesting.

16:33 you get in genetics when you come from a your father is a eugenicist right and uh one of their daughters would end up marrying none other than andrew huxley so they kept in the family you want to add anything on peace um well you covered the fact that um he um big the biggest highlights to um of him to me is that

17:07 He was the one I had his role as the administrator or writer much later as far as secretary that he served, whether it was secretary or a different name as late as 1938. And the, you know, obviously the, I love the fact, and this is going to be another common theme that.

17:36 These people are financially well off, generally speaking, because of the capitalist system. They either get inheritance or they're bequeathed some large sum of money. And you get the feeling that while, again, I have, and I'm just trying to articulate the struggle I have with all of this.

18:04 Socialism to me, and especially communism, is which they've articulated that they realize that socialism eventually leads to communism because you can't prop up the system without controlling the system completely. Eventually you have to use more draconian measures. Yeah. And so for most people, they think of socialism as some...

18:32 form of communism like, for example, they don't control all of the farming or like the Scandinavian countries where they have centralized education, centralized medicine, centralized everything, which is basically what we have in America today for the most part. But you still have, even though you're highly taxed, you have some market capability.

19:01 Obviously, when you get to the extreme of communism, it's complete control of every aspect. But even in the Soviet Union and in China, at the peak of their communism, they still had an elite. They still had, and it wasn't just bureaucrats. It was people at factories. While they joined the Communist Party, they were still functioning as

19:29 um an elite group a corrupt group and that's something that when i read through this material i struggle with because at no time are they actually talking about getting rid of those elites it's almost like what they're advocating again kind of by misdirection is a totalitarian scheme

19:54 most like Mussolini, where you still had the elite there because they're part of the elite. And the government functions on behalf of the elite as a club. And then everybody else is enslaved in this system. So I just want to throw that out there to not get hung up on necessarily.

20:21 the terms that they are using because they want one world government and they understand that they're still going to be an elite among that whether it's academic or economic or whatever um but the the real end state is we're all the plebes and they're in control yeah i think some of this stems from you know the fact that

20:48 You know, the contrast between gradualism and instant and Marxist is instant revolution. Yes. It is an understanding that these people are these people are the intellectuals that the Marxist are the one they shoot first after they will get their victory. All the intellectuals get marched out into the fields. And these people are trying to avoid that. They want to stay in control, get the same impact with them in control. They are technocrats. Yes. And it's interesting that you mentioned Mussolini because he's going to come up again today.

21:18 All right, we're going to move on from peace. He's a very important one, but he's not all that exciting. The webs, on the other hand. Well, we're going to get to the webs. We'll start with Sidney. That's the gentleman. Born 1859 and lives to 1947. So about 88 years old. Don't they look like modern day Democrats? Last week, someone said that she looks like a conehead. I think that's brilliant.

21:57 All right, so Sidney was basically the principal policy architect of Fabianism. He supported eugenics policies and a technocratic state, even used the terminology. He's the guy who originated the phrase, the inevitability of gradualness. He would describe the Fabians as latter-day Benthamites. That's a name for a philosopher by the name of Jeremy Bentham.

22:35 who lived from 1747 to 1832 bentham came up with the concept basically he's the founder of modern utilitarianism and their underlying philosophy of utilitarianism is an act should be the greater good for the greatest number and that obviously that leads streamlined straight into socialism we get who determines what the greatest good is and that's the core of these people's philosophy is

23:06 They actually believe they're good people doing good things for the greatest number. Doesn't matter whose rights they have to step on to get there or whose property they have to take away. If it helps all these people over here, you people don't here don't have rights. And that's really fundamentally right here. Utilitarianism philosophy versus our individual rights, natural, you know, natural rights and individual liberty mentality. The two cannot coexist. Correct. And Sidney Webb is celebrating that and saying these Fabians are going to be Benthamites.

23:38 And we are going to decide what the greater good is. It's the underpinnings for eminent domain. Yeah, it's God complex too. Yeah. So he would go on to meet, he would marry Beatrice Porter, who's Beatrice Webb, about eight years after they co-founded the Fabians. Be interesting if there is any fun stories about that. And of course, they would go on to co-found the London School of Economics.

24:11 We are going to spend an entire show next week on the London School of Economics. So we're not going to go too deep into it today. But Sydney would actually serve on the school is the professor of public administration from 1912 to 1927. So this is who you've got teaching economics and all these theories to future economists that are going to be leaders and administrators in governments and corporations all over the world.

24:40 And he's got a fundamental belief is for the greater good or the more people. Damn your rights. That's what's going on here. Pretty important historical figure. I mean, the influence of this guy, it's amazing. He would end up writing something called Clause 4 in the 1918 Labour Party, whatever their manifesto was. And the whole idea is to set out the aims and values of the British Labour Party.

25:17 fundamentally he said in his these words common ownership of means of production distribution and exchange pretty much the entire economy should have common ownership and that's going to be the labor that is going to be the labor party's one of its core values which of course is controversial when you're trying to win elections because sometimes people like to keep their property um there's a british candidate by the name of hugh gateskill

25:52 who actually tried to get that clause removed after labor got their butts kicked in the 1959 election. But as far as I know, it's still there to this day. So you actually have the government in power in the United Kingdom right this minute. This basically stands for common ownership and the means of production, distribution and exchange. It's also interesting to note that he studied, he was from a kind of middle class, if I recall right, his dad was an accountant.

26:24 But he studied abroad. He went to Switzerland and Germany, which Germany produced a lot of the people that we covered in the first couple of weeks. Yeah. A lot of philosophers. Yep. Indeed. OK. So he was real big in the Labor Party, served in a lot of labor offices later in life. He was a member of parliament at one point, held a lot of secretary positions, a lot of international secretary positions. 1929, he became.

27:00 They created what's called the Baron of Passfield, which is a little hamlet that he's been, I guess, the town crier in for ages. So now he's a baron. As a colonial secretary, he issued something called the Passfield White Paper, which basically reversed British policy that Churchill had written about Palestine. So rather interesting that he was involved in what would, you know, 20 years later. Right.

27:34 come the creation of the state of israel so some of his famous writings uh the big one he wrote was the history of trade unionism in 1894 1894 but he also wrote a lot of things for the fabians you know there's little tracks tracks on archive.org that he wrote yeah uh do something real quick we'll talk about tracks right now hang on i have one this is what they look like

28:10 Well, I found a list of the Fabian tracks. We're not going to go through all of them because there's a lot of them. But just read some of the titles and look for the authors. You've got George Bernard Shaw, Sidney Webb. But look at the titles. Why are the many poor? What socialism is. Capital and land. Figures for Londoners. The workers' political program. That's just one year. The scandal of London's markets. The municipalization of the London docks.

28:41 that's one of their big fabian moves is municipal control over everything yeah that's where you that's where your local city and county bureaucrats start shoving you around with their bureaucratic rules that's a big part of fabianism that we're living under to this day yep you can just go through this entire list a plea for the poor law reform form and this is basically the writings that pretty much the old you know democratic democratic socialists in america

29:10 word for word uses the same damn language all the talking points and what's interesting about and that's made very clear in the um fabian freeway book almost everything they write eventually comes into being which is that's the scary part just so you know uh tracks since 1916 they kept on writing stops around 99 2000 there's a digital library reference in tracks 597.

29:41 in 2000 so all the stuff is still being produced central africa in the league of nations they would be pushing for that of course they were this they want one world government you know and way back then here's sydney rebb waiting for the reform of the house of lords and what just happened didn't the labor party just say that they wanted to get rid of all the titles in britain yes they did they were writing about it a hundred years ago

30:16 Meanwhile, this guy's made a baron. Exactly. That's my point. They're like the biggest hypocrites. Okay, so his big topics, poverty in London, the eight-hour workday, land nationalization, which we'll talk about more in a bit, the nature of socialism, education, eugenics, and of course, reform of the House of Lords. Definitely one of the foundational members of the Fabian Society.

30:49 Yeah, he co-founded a magazine called The New Statesman. Yeah, we'll get there in a second. Okay. Go ahead and talk about it now, because I was going to mention that with Beatrice, but go ahead. Well, I was just going to mention that he did, but if you read some of the articles, the statesman that he envisioned would be educated through their...

31:18 London School of Economics, and Oxford, they attend these summer classes. And that's a big topic too, these summer seminars. And you would be shocked at how many people, especially from America, that attended these summer seminars that they put on. They were big into

31:43 The two things that I think you meant, the history of trade unionism and industrial democracy. Those were the things that I kind of dug into a little bit. It's just flat out government takeover of everything. I think we switch over to his lovely wife, Beatrice. Are you going to talk about the Coefficients Club under Beatrice?

32:14 You can. I don't have it in my notes, but you definitely bring it up. One of the phenomenons that kind of it was very prevalent in the Pilgrim Society. They have in and we we took the that this and brought it to the United States through the Fabians. They have these dinner clubs and there's tons of them. Some of them are very famous.

32:45 I'm not going to list all of them, but the Coefficients was one of those dinner clubs. So generally they're by invitation only. And they talk among the invitees and they meet once a month. And they usually met at a famous restaurant in London. And they would discuss what their next.

33:13 And again, they're getting feedback from their agents in the government and in the unions at these dinner clubs. And then they go back and they write their tracks or publish another book that is the guidance for their embedded people to follow in slowly, gradually.

33:35 co-opting and changing all of the organizations that they're embedded in, whether it's judiciary, but these dinner clubs were very, very important for the face-to-face conversations. Yeah. It's just like, you know, we talk about, yeah, it's like the smoke-filled rooms that, you know, a lot of business deals get done in. Yes, exactly that.

34:02 So Beatrice, lovely Beatrice, she was born in 1858 and lived to be the ripe old age of 1943. Her birth name was Beatrice Porter. Of course, she's the co-founder of the Fabians. She's known as a researcher, sociologist, feminist, social reformer, a diarist. Her diary ends up being some of the most important writings for source documents about the Fabians. And of course, she was also a political strategist. This was a sharp lady.

34:34 She co-authored a book called Industrial Democracy and English Local Government. There's a lot to that title. Industrial democracy is basically about socializing the means of production. English local government talks about the municipalization of everything locally. And again, this is the local bureaucratic overreach that tries to stomp on all of this. She would co-author.

35:09 The 1909 Minority Report on the Poor Laws. So these egalitarians are always trying to help out the poor. Colonel, I've got a lawnmower outside my window. Are you picking it up on background? No. Okay, good. Basically, the Minority Report on the Poor Laws, you can pretty much say that's the foundational blueprint for the welfare state. That's her writing. And that's kind of a big frigging deal. Yes. And it's...

35:51 Understandable. Like I said, these people aren't inherently evil, except for the fact that they don't care about your rights. In their mind, they're being egalitarian. And they're coming out of the post-industrial age where we definitely, you know, the Industrial Revolution created absolute robber barons, you know, people who had more money than God, all these elite people like the Webbs. You know, that's an upper class thing. They don't ever have to labor. You know, they've got all this awesome. They've got so much free time. They can sit around and write these pamphlets and books and go to these dinner parties.

36:21 you know, that didn't have to work to make a living. And this leisure time is a new, you know, it's pretty much a new, we haven't seen that probably since the Roman days. That's this, this, this widespread. And, but it also created a poor class with terrible labor conditions. And you can be egalitarian and say, look, it's not fair that these guys aren't getting a fair shake. And that's a legitimate standpoint. I don't necessarily agree with their solutions of it. So taking, yeah. Taxing us to pay for everyone else.

36:55 Yes. So I also want to say something about her family. She came from a very wealthy family as well. It's just a common theme throughout this entire thing. And she was left with a large inheritance as a result of that. But her growing up, her parents were also very, very radical as far as rabble rousers.

37:24 Her mom died fairly early. There were, I forget, like nine girls, if I remember. Yeah, nine daughters. And she takes over the hostess duties for her father and was exposed to very radical thought very early. Again, these intellectual elites, they got a lot of free time on their hands and they think.

37:55 they're gods okay where were we on beatrice okay so she also co-found the london school of economics she co-found something called the new statesman which the colonel just mentioned she co-founded something called the fabian women's group so this is uh you know this whole movement both on both sides the atlantic of the women's rights is starting it's got a fabian background to it again remember these people are anti-family they think we're overpopulated they want the state to be the parent

38:29 How many kids did she have? Zero. Yeah, they had zero kids. She even made the statement that she didn't need to have kids because she viewed all of the people that attended the London School of Economics as her children. Sounds so familiar. Yeah, it's very diabolical. Well, but these are the people that were the...

39:03 very supportive of the unions and co-opting unions. And then you have Weingarten over here basically telling us as a childless, she's the current day Beatrice Webb. She is. She has no kids and she refers to all of the children in all of the public schools in America as their children. Yeah, she is Beatrice Webb, to be honest with you. It's a good comparison.

39:39 So we talked about her diaries. Her diaries got published, and a lot of the inside information that all these books were written on come from these diaries. Not all of them complimentary, by the way. She's the one who coined the term, speaking of labor unions, of collective bargaining. That came from Beatrice. She and her husband became really good friends with a very influential guy, a part of his stuff, named Bertrand Russell. We're not going to get into Russell quite yet.

40:13 But they were good friends with the webs. John Miller and Russell, we're going to have to work our way back to because they're very, very influential in everything we're talking about. We started with Cecil Rhodes. We got to go through the Rhodes Scholars. We had to go through the London School of Economics. There's no specific order that is going to be done. We're going to hit on all those topics. So we can skip Bertrand Russell for now. Just know that he's very, very important. Fair enough? Yep.

40:42 In 1932, Beatrice Webb was elected a fellow of the British Academy. She's the very first woman to get that honor. So a women's rights pioneer. It gets interesting. In 1932, she and Sidney decide to take a trip to the Soviet Union. That's where that picture's from. And they spent about two months there. And they do a follow-up trip, I think. But they would write about it in a book called Soviet Communism.

41:16 A New Civilization with a Question Mark was the name of the book. You look at more recent editions, they've taken the question mark out. The Fabians decided it is a new civilization. But in this book, they were very uncritical at all about gulags, five-year plans. In fact, they were kind of celebrating the Soviet success. This is 1932. Of course, that was widely criticized in Western press. One quote I found was from a British historian.

41:49 By the name of A.J.P. Taylor, he writes, this is the most preposterous book ever written about Russia. It was a puff piece. You want to add anything more about Beatrice? Because there is more. Just a couple of the other things that she worked on, either jointly or by herself. The cooperative movement in Great Britain, women and the factory acts, the breakup of the poor law, decay of capitalist civilization.

42:23 That's a very interesting one. And we talk often about their infiltration of the British government, but they were very focused on local governments too. She wrote English local government series that went on from 1906 to 1929.

42:48 And it was basically a how-to of how to infiltrate all the levels of government. And they sponsored that summer school series. They considered it like an adult education where they would send out invitations to people working in local and county, the equivalent, governments for them to attend.

43:16 then they kept in contact with all of the attendees and sending them tracks and they would do it like for free for like the first year to get them to then join and buy into in order to um administer this um uh infiltration gradualism if you will uh there's a question in chat from kathy smith she wants to know if the fabians were they prohibitionists

43:45 Did she drink socially? I don't know about the Webb's drinking habits. I didn't get anything on that. But I will tell you, the whole prohibitionist movement was led by feminists. And there would have definitely been some crossover. Although I don't think you can directly attribute this to the Fabians. Just the crossover on feminism led to the prohibition movement. Hope that helps.

44:11 Yeah, she also pioneered something called the minority report, very focused on that division and fault line kind of philosophy. She also was instrumental in creating, quote unquote, research methods, because what they like to do is to quantify things so that they could.

44:38 make it more scientific. That was their whole attempt at the London School of Economics, which I know we're going to get into next week. But they wanted to quantify things. They wanted to make all of their writings appear much more scientific, even though none of it was scientific. Yeah, the social sciences are, they call it a soft science. You can also call it a pseudoscience.

45:07 They have to do that because they want to create a trust the experts mentality. Yes. And if they're the experts and they're the gatekeepers to the topics, no one could argue with them. And they are. They're throughout academia. So that's where we get to trust the experts. That worked out pretty well in COVID, didn't it? Well, that's the whole reason they have like 2,000 economists at the bed too, trust the experts. Yeah. And this is basically just, this is,

45:39 Technocracy 101 is just the expert. So she's working towards that from every angle she can. She's prolific and successful. She reached a lot of people as they were on their way through the institutions. Yep. Okay. I think it's time for George Bernard Shaw. Okay. Cue the Star Wars music. George Bernard Shaw.

46:11 If you call him George Bernard Shaw, he'd get very upset and pugilistic. He insisted on being known as Bernard Shaw. Born in 1856 in Dublin, Ireland. Moved to London at age 20, where he spent most of his life, and then lived to the age of 1950. So he gets 94 years. Sensing a pattern? Yes. Okay, Bernard Shaw. He is known as a playwright.

46:43 I've seen lists where he's considered the second most influential playwright in British history behind William Shakespeare. That's it. So he was very, very prolific writer. Mostly he got his political views into his plays in one way, shape or the other, mostly by pointing out the flaws in, you know, in certain ideas. And so he's known as a critic. And more importantly, it's called a polemicist.

47:15 A polemicist is somebody who uses, and this is a direct quote, contentious rhetoric intended to support a particular position with forthright claims in order to undermine an opposing position. I bring this up because there's an interesting list of famous polemists. Let's see if I can find it again. Where's my list of polemists? It's got to be here. Hang on. Entertain people while I can find this because I get a kick out of this one.

47:55 Okay. Also, he was living for free with his mom when they moved to London. He's basically self-educated. And he tried writing five novels, but he couldn't get any of them published. And he spent a lot of time in what was called the British Museum Reading Room.

48:24 He became a vegetarian in 1881. And he always had that beard that you see in that picture because his face was pocked mark from smallpox that he had as a child. His political conversion happened in 1882 after hearing a lecture on progress and poverty.

48:54 He was well-versed in Karl Marx's Das Kapital, which he read in self-taught French. And he loved attending Social Democratic Federation meetings. He didn't like the revolutionary version, obviously, because he's a Fabian. He was...

49:23 Very fond of getting to that end, just doing it without the revolutionary part. I bring up the polemicists to go deeper into what polemicity is because of some of the other people who are considered polemics. You can go as far back as Martin Luther, but you get Marx, you get Ingalls, Machiavelli. And it's important. More locally, you got Herbert Marcuse from UCSD, Norm Chomsky.

49:54 michael moore is considered a polemic these are all very effective speakers because it's a uh it's a it's a very structured way of forming an argument this is a little irishman and he was basically the best publicity for the fabian society from day one he was actually yeah he was actually credited for um bringing the webs into this as well as annie bassett that you mentioned earlier

50:28 Yeah, that's why I would say Bernard Shaw for last, because I think he is the foundational rock, or was. So he's obviously one of the society's most visible public faces. He's also a major pamphleteer. They're getting a lot of the propaganda out with pamphlets. That's kind of what they did back then, instead of bombarding you with emails. He opposed vaccination, and he absolutely hated organized religion of any form. Definitely atheist roots, right? Yeah.

51:07 He's a major contributor to the Fabian Essays in Socialism, which we've talked about. Obviously an advocate of permeation and gradualism. He was also one of the co-founders of the London School of Economics and the New Statesman. He also designed something called the Fabian Window. And if you'll bear with me, I'm going to show you the Fabian Window. That's it. All right. So if you can read the top, it says, mold it near to your heart's desire.

51:44 to the heart's desire this is shaw and webb on an anvil hammering the world into their vision with the sheep skin sheep and wolf and sheep's clothing insignia right above it and over here is uh peace stoking the bellows the whole time it is rather symbolic this is what they are trying to do mold the world and be

52:17 a wolf in sheep's clothing. It depicts everything. Pray devoutly, hammer stoutly is what this says right here in the corner. Yep. This actually got stolen like a decade or two ago and then recovered, but I don't have the whole story on that. They love their symbolism, don't they? Yes, they do. Okay, so when it comes to eugenists, Shaw was not exactly passive about it. He's what they called a forceful eugenist.

53:00 He publicly advocated for coercive and lethal state ideas in relation to people that he considered unfit. This made it across the pond in America's technocratic institution and their eugenics policy to the point that in 1931, the Supreme Court even allowed forced sterilization for people that are considered like under the...

53:30 Or retarded, I guess is the word they used. Undesirables. Yeah, exactly. That's pretty darn scary. I'm so convinced that I'm right about everything, that the ideas that I don't care about, we're just going to forcibly kill you off. Sort of like what they're doing in Canada right now, right? Yeah. So one of the reasons George Bernard Shaw was so important was because he really established the aggressive rhetoric of the Fabian Society that we see every single day today in Congress.

54:04 And over in England, you see the same thing. This was Shaw showing that this aggressive rhetoric could be effective in moving the needle. And that's basically what you see in Congress all the time. It's a scream. You know, Trump this, Trump that. He's going to murder us all, blah, blah, blah. You push this extreme case and then you get a back off of the moderate vote. But they're always trying to rile everybody up. That's how they win hearts and minds. And it's fortunately more effective than it should be. And it's a direct derivative of Shaw.

54:40 Okay. He wrote over 60 plays. I'm not a literary clinic, so I'm not going to go really into them. Just trust me, there's a lot of them. He was trying to entertain you while kind of brainwashing you with his ideas, most of which was just pointing out flaws and things about society. He has always expressed his admiration for both Mussolini and Stalin, which we'll get to in a second here. Yeah. Isn't that what Hollywood does?

55:13 Interestingly enough, when Shaw visits America, he's very critical about how cheesy Hollywood was. But he actually took some things home from it that he liked. We can talk about that. He gets his political awakening in 1882. We went to a talk by an economist by the name of Henry George. Henry George is an important foundational philosopher and economist. He wrote what's called The Progress and Poverty in 1879.

55:43 which addressed the increasing inequality of poverty and industrial nations. He basically said every industrial nation, you get more poverty. Why? It's because you let the robber barons control the government. It's crony capitalism, which is what you guys want to continue. Just give it another name. That's the truth. He introduces this theory called the rent capture and land value taxation.

56:10 Basically, land value taxation is you tax unimproved value of land. So if you basically own 10 acres and you live on two of them, they want to tax you on the other eight at the same rate as all of the land because eventually what will happen is the town will grow and the demand for that land will get greater. So you'll get unrealized gains. And we don't think that's fair. We think that should be paid into the society. That's what land value taxation is.

56:40 As a Florida owner of real estate, how do you feel about that, Colonel? Well, I get taxed on, I own rental property and we basically have that now because I can't homestead any of my rental property and I get taxed. They do cap it as far as the amount that it can increase every year. But the taxes in the time that I've owned this property,

57:10 which is about 10 years, has doubled. Doubled. It's crazy. It's foundational. This is a foundational philosophy of the Fabians is basically anytime you have unearned rent, they call it, they think it's bad and they want to capture it. The whole idea is to capture economic rent. So unearned income that accrues to landowners simply from owning scarce land as society progresses. They think they're...

57:42 they deserve that oh and by the way since we're on the topic the the land that i own is in the city limits of the town that i'm near i don't live in the city limits i don't even get to vote in the city um elections even though i own multiple properties and i have no representation in the cities that i own the property in the other important philosopher economist that we have to talk about

58:18 that was influenced george bernard shaw was david ricardo who lived from 1772 to 1823 he's the one that came up with a theory of rent the principles of political economy and taxation said rent is not a reward for productive effort but arises from land scarcity in different advantages so you're basically going to get rid of the entire landlord class and have the government own everything and then you know where that you know what that

58:46 Look at the slum. Look where that's been done in the cities of America. Right. You get ghettos and slums. But it's for the greater good, Colonel. Yeah. Who cares? Yeah. All right. Back to George Bernard Shaw. But Ricardo and Henry George are incredibly important for understanding Fabian economic theory. And we've talked about a lot of the philosophers and economists in the past. Those two belong in that conversation, especially Ricardo, I think.

59:19 So George Bernard Shaw starts attending meetings of Social Democratic SDF, Social Democratic Federation, where he discovers the writings of Karl Marx, where he reads Das Kapital. The Social Democratic Federation was led by a guy by the name of H.M. Hindman. And Bernard Shaw couldn't stand him. He thought he was stupid. And he goes, I need to be around people that are my intellectual equals. And then he reads a Fabian tract called.

59:51 Why are the many poor? It intrigued him enough. He went to the next scheduled meeting and ends up joining the Fabian Society like their very third meeting. And by 1885, Bernard Shaw is on the executive committee of the Fabians. Fast forward to 1887. That's after the Bloody Sunday in Ireland riots. He becomes convinced, and he writes about this, of the folly of attempting to challenge police power.

1:00:26 He didn't like the violent approach. I guess it led him more towards the gradual approach, seeing the bloodshed. Remember, he's an Irishman originally. Should we talk about his rather colorful sex life or just the fact that he has several interesting partners? Go for it. It's not that exciting to me. Some of the stuff I read about it, you know, thought it was worth discussing.

1:01:00 His sex life didn't seem to permeate into his political life, I don't think. Well, I find it interesting that he married a very wealthy Irish heiress. Again, staying with the theme. They all had a lot of money. And I just think that's an oxymoron to the whole story.

1:01:28 But it does to the earlier question, he was a non-drinker. He also never smoked. He was very, and he also had some controversy. I don't know if you're going to talk about that as far as philosophically with the larger body, especially the webs on how to approach. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We're going to get there. Okay.

1:01:57 So we're about 1894. He starts having some success with literary success with his plays. And the first big hit he had was called Arms and the Man, which satirized love, military honor and social class. So he's a satirist making fun of him. And that actually sold. As the colonel mentioned, he's had some parting of the philosophical ways with the webs. And he sort of starts sliding away from politics by the late 1890s.

1:02:25 and then the Boer Wars began in 1899. Shaw wants the Fabians to take a neutral stance because, like Home Rule, he considers it a non-socialist issue. That's controversial because the Fabians used the Boer Wars as a bit of political leverage. He starts becoming disillusioned by the impact the Fabians were having nationally, and he thought the society needed new leadership. In 1906, he pushes...

1:03:05 for a leadership position of the fabians none other than h.g wells wells lasted until about 1908 so two years in fabian society until he pissed everyone off um he would have a lifelong feud with the webs um all of his proposals for reform put him at odds with whether they're now calling the old gang and uh shaw has a quote where he said the old gang did not extinguish mr wells he annihilated himself

1:03:37 So we're going to have to spend some time on H.G. Wells in the future because he matters. He's part of the story. Yeah. But I think he ties in with the Huxleys. So I think that ties together. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Do you want to talk more about the feud with the webs? Because the H.G. Wells one was the big flare up to me. Well, just that was the big thing. He didn't agree with, I know we're waiting for World War II.

1:04:07 um one but he didn't agree with them on that either um so yeah yeah i'll do that world war one because it's it's he did something interesting he produces another track called common sense about the war where he argues that both both sides all the nations were equally culpable and that made him radioactive yeah i mean people would no longer you were arguing in the middle of world war one that britain was culpable for the war and trying to kill patriotism

1:04:38 Nobody's going to go to dinner with you for a few years. Yeah. And interestingly enough, my takeaway in they while they preach gradualism, they realize the advantage of using the world wars to drastically reshape. It's kind of that make haste slowly phenomenon that they embraced.

1:05:08 that there's going to be events and they are going to use those events to move quickly through a period based on that turmoil. And that becomes readily apparent in the Boer Wars especially, but also World War I.

1:05:29 Obviously, the Web see the advantage of using World War One to float the idea of the League of Nations and use it to jumpstart these world government organizations. Yep. And in places like the Paris conference, stuff like that, a lot of international institutions were set up. And that's just more opportunity, more institutions for the Fabians to warm their way into. Correct. Post-war, we spent a bunch of time working on Irish home rule.

1:06:03 And he would grow away from gradualism at this point and favored dictatorial methods. He said this gradualism is taking too long. We need a stronger hand to force this stuff through. So that's why he celebrates Mussolini. In fact, Beatrice Webb accused him of being obsessed with Mussolini. He hailed Lenin as the one interesting statesman in Europe, to quote. In 1931, he takes a trip, a party led by Nancy Astor of the Astors.

1:06:35 to the Soviet Union, where he personally met Stalin and called Stalin a Georgian gentleman with no malice in him. He criticizes the media's representation of Soviet achievements, like the Holodomor. So I think we can question Shaw's judgment in a lot of things. Yeah, I think. He starts traveling more in his waning years, continuing to write well into his 90s.

1:07:09 He visited the U.S. eventually, which is interesting because he earlier said he refused to go to that, and this is an exact quote in his writing, talking about the United States, that awful country, that uncivilized place that was unfit to govern itself. It's illiberal, superstitious, crude, violent, anarchic, and arbitrary. That's how he described the U.S. Yeah, buddy. Like I said, he continues to write until his 90s, and he lived to be 94 years old.

1:07:41 But this is one of the foundational pieces of Fabianism. Yep. So I want to give just a real quick summary of where we are right now in terms of understanding Fabian socialism philosophy and the roots. Their economic theory, the core terms are land rent, unearned increment, monopoly rent, rent of ability, socialized land value, and state capture of economic rents. Make sense? I mean, that's pretty well established. Yep.

1:08:20 We've talked about Benthamites, the utilitarian ethics. We haven't really talked about John Stuart Mill. We'll probably mention him a little bit more going forward. And Comte deserves a mention. Mill supplies a political economy that separates distribution from production and open the space for reform. So Mill's influence matters. It gave them some ways to work around the edges, change the language a little bit, and make it seem like they weren't seizing your property.

1:08:51 or they were doing so for utilitarian greater good. Right. Talked about Henry George. British idealism allowed individuals to flourish in communities. That's the concept. Freedom is positive as well as negative, and the common good justifies state action. That's a really core point. Yep. Christian socialism was a big part of this. It gave the Fabians a moral critique of individual capitalism and an older cooperative tradition.

1:09:23 You co-opt Christianity to get legitimacy and ethical justification. Talked about all the influences. Did we talk about the Order of the Star in the East? Have you gone through that yet? No. Save that one for the future. Okay. All right. I've got here strongly influenced all the things that Fabian summed up influenced. British civil service culture, municipal government reform. We talked about that.

1:10:00 welfare state planning, trade reunion theory and collective bargaining, university and policy training systems, a.k.a. indoctrination. Yep. Labor Party modernization and international social democracy, which is an oxymoron. Correct. Some of their elite networks and overlapping circles. We've got the Quakers, whose commercial and banking networks wrapped around peace really helped them grow faster.

1:10:37 we've got the potter and chamberlain railroad industry connections around beatrice webb that's where she got her fortune got the psychical research from podmore and ellis the theosophical and co-masonic networks of besant the coefficients dining club around the webs and shaw and then links to the imperial governments uh through reform elites like sydney olivier that's how they're spreading their tendrils all those different connections there are

1:11:13 Some conspiracy claims about Milner and the Fabians, and not all of them are 100% true, but they do have some overlap, which we need to get to when we spend time on Milner. Critiques of Fabianism, internal increase, elitism and technocracy, paternalism, stealth politics, all the stuff we've talked about, eugenics and the other dark entanglements. Can't talk about that enough. You mentioned Hadlock Ellis' and his sexology and eugenics approach.

1:11:56 The enduring paradox is, this is something that's been discussed by more modern historians and philosophers. And they say the Fabians face a simple paradox, which is hard to escape. It's getting a little bit wonky, but basically says the same strategy that made the movement effective also made it suspect. It says the same expertise that built institutions also narrowed democratic participation. As the institution grows, the need for votes.

1:12:28 diminishes and they say that the same gradualism that prevented rupture also enabled slow capture and that's the critique that fabianism has been twisted in other directions over the years which is entirely possible i need to make that case would you not say yeah well that's what i've got for today and next week we want to go through the london school of economics okay

1:13:02 You want to add to anything today? No, I think you pretty much covered it. Well, I think you covered a lot of it too. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the London School of Economics. Yeah, yeah. I want to have a really good display so I have a timeline of all the different people, where they went, and then jet off to where they influenced. So I want to hopefully have that ready for next Friday. Should be a really excellent visible display. We'll see if I can get it done in time.

1:13:35 Yeah, because it's interesting to tie back because the way you can look at this is a web. And you have the center of the web, obviously, with the Fabian Society, but the institutions that they set up, like the London School of Economics,

1:14:02 um creates like um a subweb and then it shoots spurs out and then these people go back and they set up their own um subwebs and it is very enlightening to shine a light on that network yeah that's why i want the visual so much because it really is a web and it's tangled it's a tangled one at that because there's so much crossover um and i just want to foot stomp something

1:14:31 because this came out yesterday, you cannot always identify a Fabian. That's by design. You have to look at their, especially in America, there were much more bold in London as far as setting up their own political party. So there is,

1:15:01 a much easier way to identify them in London. They didn't feel the need to hide as much. In America, other than the initial, and we will talk about that in an upcoming show, some of the, and the nationalist was the name of one of the entities that they set up in America. They were much,

1:15:28 better at cloaking or more effective, whatever the word is, their affiliations with the Fabians. There's not a lot of people outside of that Turtle Bay area that visibly said or had a sign, I'm a Fabian. But what you can do is look at all of the stuff that Warhamster has laid out here about their beliefs. And obviously,

1:15:56 Everything that we talked about today about their fundamental beliefs is represented in the Democrat Party. They decided not to create a separate political, although they did try initially, a separate political party here. But what you have to do is look at all the commonalities. Are they pro-UN? Are they pro-

1:16:23 um taking people's land are they pro um uh union and not in a a way in which it represents workers rights but more from a control mechanism um you really just have to kind of line up the traits that he just articulated and then you can say they're very fabian acting even if they're not a formal member of a fabian party anywhere

1:16:50 Yeah, I mean, when they start using equity instead of equality, you know where it's coming from. These are the original woke cultists. Fabianism is a cult. Woke is a cult. And we've basically outlined what the origins of that cult are, the spiritual side of it, the psychic side, the homosexuality part of it, how these all ties in together with their land rent theories, all that.

1:17:19 they have to marry all these whole ideas together into a coalition and that's where it gets interesting and if you can remember that thought in a couple months when i start talking about the rockefellers around 1971 i'm going to bring that up again yeah but i wanted to hammer home the point you said about how they had to change the language to sell it to people in america because we are a lot less collectivist of a nation than england was um we were founded on completely different principles

1:17:48 They had to change the language, which means they had to lie more. Someone just said in chat, for their fruits and their actions, shall you know them? In America, this would lead to the progressive era, which we're going to get to. Progressive comes from the slow creep through the societies. They were talking about making progress, have we made progress? We are progressives. That came from the Fabians. Anytime someone like Obama starts talking about progressive,

1:18:17 which is a word that disappeared from the english language after the progressives got absolutely destroyed in the election of 1920 because their progressive policies of progressive era were so awful americans completely decimated them electorally and never to hear the word again for 100 years but that's what we're talking about here and that's why they keep twisting the language it's progressives okay to say in 1919 but no longer not allowed to say for another 90 years and now it's okay to say again well that's how they manipulate the language

1:18:48 And that's why learning history is so important, the real history, because you see the the the the reoccurrence of some of their themes and you know exactly where they originated from. Indeed. All right. So that's going to wrap up this session of the Fabian Society. Thanks, everybody, for joining us. And we will see you next Friday. Cheers, everyone.

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“all right let's why is annie important oops where'd you go annie who's up there she's okay now my notes um oh she's born annie wood and married a guy by name passant who wasn't all that interesting to…”

Helena Blavatsky founded Theosophical Society host_asserted ▶ 4:22

“Theosophy, established in the 1900s, I'm sorry, 1800s, was founded by a Russian guy in the U.S. by name of a girl, I mean, Helena Blavatsky. And it's kind of an occult religion, quasi-religion, and it…”

Annie Besant co-authored Occult Chemistry host_asserted ▶ 4:50

“she would end up co-authoring a book called Occult Chemistry. So these, just like the secret societies, the Fabians definitely have a foot in the door of occultism. And that matters because the occult…”

Annie Besant member_of Freemasons host_asserted ▶ 6:21

“She also became very active opening up lodges as a co-freemason. The co-freemasons allow women, and they're huge. They were very much open to people of other races and, of course, women to be allowed.…”

Annie Besant did_business_with Charles Bradlaugh host_asserted ▶ 7:29

“with a guy by the name of Charles Bradlaw. She was in the National Secular Society, the NSC. And the two of her and Bradlaw would form a publishing firm. She was really well known for her oratory, pub…”

Annie Besant member_of National Secular Society host_asserted ▶ 7:29

Annie Besant carried_out_attack Bloody Sunday (1887) host_asserted ▶ 10:30

“uh by a birth control campaigner named charles nobelton this is eugenics people and she's gets in trouble by the authorities for publishing the book she then would get involved in union actions uh big…”

Annie Besant member_of Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 11:01

“I don't know how they got the name Bloody Sunday, but it was not quite as bloody as the name makes it seem. But it was a real big turning point in the Irish movement. She was also part of what's calle…”

Annie Besant carried_out_attack Match Girl Strike host_asserted ▶ 11:01

Annie Besant founded Central Hindu College host_asserted ▶ 12:03

“And you'll see later on, you know, they don't care that the ends justify the means. So, oh, I feel that this is a good opportunity. It doesn't matter what I have to do to get to my, you know, my good …”

Annie Besant founded World Teacher Project host_asserted ▶ 12:36

“who basically she deemed the world teacher and started the World Teacher Project. This is going to be the guru of our theosophical religion. Well, Jiddu kind of went along with it for about 20 years a…”

Edward Pease headed Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 13:44

“And that's going to matter. Quakers are an interesting lot. I have a neighbor who's a Quaker practicing. He's an interesting character. So Peace was a co-founder of the Fabian Society and basically th…”

Edward Pease founded Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 13:44

Edward Pease authored The History of the Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 14:13

“He was also, we mentioned this earlier, the author of The History of the Fabian Society, which was printed in 1916. He was the editor of Fabian News. He's a representative at the Labor Representation …”

Edward Pease founded London School of Economics host_asserted ▶ 14:13

Edward Pease member_of Independent Labor Party host_asserted ▶ 15:57

“It failed in a couple of years. So he was one of the early members of the Independent Labor Party, which would form what's called Labor Representation and the committee to become the Labor Party. He d…”

Sidney Webb founded Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 23:38

“And we are going to decide what the greater good is. It's the underpinnings for eminent domain. Yeah, it's God complex too. Yeah. So he would go on to meet, he would marry Beatrice Porter, who's Beatr…”

Sidney Webb founded London School of Economics host_asserted ▶ 23:38

Sidney Webb married Beatrice Webb host_asserted ▶ 23:38

Sidney Webb taught_at London School of Economics host_asserted ▶ 24:11

“We are going to spend an entire show next week on the London School of Economics. So we're not going to go too deep into it today. But Sydney would actually serve on the school is the professor of pub…”

Sidney Webb authored History of Trade Unionism host_asserted ▶ 27:34

“come the creation of the state of israel so some of his famous writings uh the big one he wrote was the history of trade unionism in 1894 1894 but he also wrote a lot of things for the fabians you kno…”

Sidney Webb founded The New Statesman host_asserted ▶ 30:49

“Yeah, he co-founded a magazine called The New Statesman. Yeah, we'll get there in a second. Okay. Go ahead and talk about it now, because I was going to mention that with Beatrice, but go ahead. Well,…”

Coefficients Club associated_with American Pilgrims host_asserted ▶ 32:14

“You can. I don't have it in my notes, but you definitely bring it up. One of the phenomenons that kind of it was very prevalent in the Pilgrim Society. They have in and we we took the that this and br…”

Beatrice Webb co-founded Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 34:02

“So Beatrice, lovely Beatrice, she was born in 1858 and lived to be the ripe old age of 1943. Her birth name was Beatrice Porter. Of course, she's the co-founder of the Fabians. She's known as a resear…”

Beatrice Webb co-authored Industrial Democracy and English Local Government host_asserted ▶ 34:34

“She co-authored a book called Industrial Democracy and English Local Government. There's a lot to that title. Industrial democracy is basically about socializing the means of production. English local…”

Beatrice Webb authored Minority Report on the Poor Laws host_asserted ▶ 35:09

“The 1909 Minority Report on the Poor Laws. So these egalitarians are always trying to help out the poor. Colonel, I've got a lawnmower outside my window. Are you picking it up on background? No. Okay,…”

Beatrice Webb co-founded The New Statesman host_asserted ▶ 37:55

“they're gods okay where were we on beatrice okay so she also co-found the london school of economics she co-found something called the new statesman which the colonel just mentioned she co-founded som…”

Beatrice Webb co-founded London School of Economics host_asserted ▶ 37:55

Beatrice Webb friend_of Bertrand Russell host_asserted ▶ 39:39

“So we talked about her diaries. Her diaries got published, and a lot of the inside information that all these books were written on come from these diaries. Not all of them complimentary, by the way. …”

Beatrice Webb authored Soviet Communism: A New Civilization? host_asserted ▶ 40:42

“In 1932, Beatrice Webb was elected a fellow of the British Academy. She's the very first woman to get that honor. So a women's rights pioneer. It gets interesting. In 1932, she and Sidney decide to ta…”

A.J.P. Taylor criticized Soviet Communism: A New Civilization? host_asserted ▶ 41:49

“By the name of A.J.P. Taylor, he writes, this is the most preposterous book ever written about Russia. It was a puff piece. You want to add anything more about Beatrice? Because there is more. Just a …”

Beatrice Webb authored Industrial Democracy and English Local Government host_asserted ▶ 42:23

“That's a very interesting one. And we talk often about their infiltration of the British government, but they were very focused on local governments too. She wrote English local government series that…”

George Bernard Shaw born_in Dublin host_asserted ▶ 46:11

“If you call him George Bernard Shaw, he'd get very upset and pugilistic. He insisted on being known as Bernard Shaw. Born in 1856 in Dublin, Ireland. Moved to London at age 20, where he spent most of …”

George Bernard Shaw moved_to London host_asserted ▶ 46:11

George Bernard Shaw influenced_by Karl Marx host_asserted ▶ 48:54

“He was well-versed in Karl Marx's Das Kapital, which he read in self-taught French. And he loved attending Social Democratic Federation meetings. He didn't like the revolutionary version, obviously, b…”

George Bernard Shaw introduced Annie Besant host_asserted ▶ 49:54

“michael moore is considered a polemic these are all very effective speakers because it's a uh it's a it's a very structured way of forming an argument this is a little irishman and he was basically th…”

George Bernard Shaw introduced Sidney Webb host_asserted ▶ 49:54

George Bernard Shaw co-founded London School of Economics host_asserted ▶ 51:07

“He's a major contributor to the Fabian Essays in Socialism, which we've talked about. Obviously an advocate of permeation and gradualism. He was also one of the co-founders of the London School of Eco…”

George Bernard Shaw co-founded The New Statesman host_asserted ▶ 51:07

George Bernard Shaw contributed_to Fabian Essays in Socialism host_asserted ▶ 51:07

George Bernard Shaw admired Joseph Stalin host_asserted ▶ 54:40

“Okay. He wrote over 60 plays. I'm not a literary clinic, so I'm not going to go really into them. Just trust me, there's a lot of them. He was trying to entertain you while kind of brainwashing you wi…”

George Bernard Shaw admired Benito Mussolini host_asserted ▶ 54:40

George Bernard Shaw influenced_by Henry George host_asserted ▶ 55:13

“Interestingly enough, when Shaw visits America, he's very critical about how cheesy Hollywood was. But he actually took some things home from it that he liked. We can talk about that. He gets his poli…”

Henry George authored Progress and Poverty host_asserted ▶ 55:13

George Bernard Shaw influenced_by David Rico host_asserted ▶ 57:42

“they deserve that oh and by the way since we're on the topic the the land that i own is in the city limits of the town that i'm near i don't live in the city limits i don't even get to vote in the cit…”

David Rico authored The Principles of Political Economy and Taxation host_asserted ▶ 58:18

“that was influenced george bernard shaw was david ricardo who lived from 1772 to 1823 he's the one that came up with a theory of rent the principles of political economy and taxation said rent is not …”

George Bernard Shaw influenced_by Why Are the Many Poor? host_asserted ▶ 59:19

“So George Bernard Shaw starts attending meetings of Social Democratic SDF, Social Democratic Federation, where he discovers the writings of Karl Marx, where he reads Das Kapital. The Social Democratic…”

George Bernard Shaw member_of Social Democratic Federation host_asserted ▶ 59:19

H.M. Hyndman headed Social Democratic Federation host_asserted ▶ 59:19

George Bernard Shaw disliked H.M. Hyndman host_asserted ▶ 59:19

George Bernard Shaw member_of Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 59:51

“Why are the many poor? It intrigued him enough. He went to the next scheduled meeting and ends up joining the Fabian Society like their very third meeting. And by 1885, Bernard Shaw is on the executiv…”

H. G. Wells feud_with Sidney Webb host_asserted ▶ 1:03:05

“for a leadership position of the fabians none other than h.g wells wells lasted until about 1908 so two years in fabian society until he pissed everyone off um he would have a lifelong feud with the w…”

George Bernard Shaw appointed H. G. Wells host_asserted ▶ 1:03:05

H. G. Wells authored Common Sense About the War host_asserted ▶ 1:04:07

“um one but he didn't agree with them on that either um so yeah yeah i'll do that world war one because it's it's he did something interesting he produces another track called common sense about the wa…”

Fabian Society used World War I host_asserted ▶ 1:05:29

“Obviously, the Web see the advantage of using World War One to float the idea of the League of Nations and use it to jumpstart these world government organizations. Yep. And in places like the Paris c…”

George Bernard Shaw relationship_with Benito Mussolini host_asserted ▶ 1:06:03

“And he would grow away from gradualism at this point and favored dictatorial methods. He said this gradualism is taking too long. We need a stronger hand to force this stuff through. So that's why he …”

Beatrice Webb accused George Bernard Shaw host_asserted ▶ 1:06:03

George Bernard Shaw relationship_with Vladimir Lenin book_quoted ▶ 1:06:03

George Bernard Shaw criticized Holodomor host_asserted ▶ 1:06:35

“to the Soviet Union, where he personally met Stalin and called Stalin a Georgian gentleman with no malice in him. He criticizes the media's representation of Soviet achievements, like the Holodomor. S…”

George Bernard Shaw relationship_with Joseph Stalin host_asserted ▶ 1:06:35

Fabian Society influenced_by Auguste Comte host_asserted ▶ 1:08:20

“We've talked about Benthamites, the utilitarian ethics. We haven't really talked about John Stuart Mill. We'll probably mention him a little bit more going forward. And Comte deserves a mention. Mill …”

Fabian Society influenced_by John Stuart Mill host_asserted ▶ 1:08:20

Fabian Society influenced_by Henry George host_asserted ▶ 1:08:51

“or they were doing so for utilitarian greater good. Right. Talked about Henry George. British idealism allowed individuals to flourish in communities. That's the concept. Freedom is positive as well a…”

Fabian Society influenced_by Quakers host_asserted ▶ 1:10:00

“welfare state planning, trade reunion theory and collective bargaining, university and policy training systems, a.k.a. indoctrination. Yep. Labor Party modernization and international social democracy…”

Fabian Society influenced_by Theosophical Society host_asserted ▶ 1:10:37

“we've got the potter and chamberlain railroad industry connections around beatrice webb that's where she got her fortune got the psychical research from podmore and ellis the theosophical and co-mason…”

Beatrice Webb member_of Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 1:10:37

George Bernard Shaw member_of Fabian Society host_asserted ▶ 1:10:37

Fabian Society influenced_by Co-Freemasonry host_asserted ▶ 1:10:37

Fabian Society influenced_by Havelock Ellis host_asserted ▶ 1:11:13

“Some conspiracy claims about Milner and the Fabians, and not all of them are 100% true, but they do have some overlap, which we need to get to when we spend time on Milner. Critiques of Fabianism, int…”

Fabian Society influenced_by Alfred Milner host_asserted ▶ 1:11:13

Fabian Society founded London School of Economics host_asserted ▶ 1:13:35

“Yeah, because it's interesting to tie back because the way you can look at this is a web. And you have the center of the web, obviously, with the Fabian Society, but the institutions that they set up,…”

Fabian Society operated_in London host_asserted ▶ 1:14:31

“because this came out yesterday, you cannot always identify a Fabian. That's by design. You have to look at their, especially in America, there were much more bold in London as far as setting up their…”

Fabian Society operated_in United States host_asserted ▶ 1:15:01

“a much easier way to identify them in London. They didn't feel the need to hide as much. In America, other than the initial, and we will talk about that in an upcoming show, some of the, and the natio…”

Fabian Society influenced Democratic Party (United States) host_asserted ▶ 1:15:56

“Everything that we talked about today about their fundamental beliefs is represented in the Democrat Party. They decided not to create a separate political, although they did try initially, a separate…”

Fabian Society influenced Progressive Era host_asserted ▶ 1:17:48

“They had to change the language, which means they had to lie more. Someone just said in chat, for their fruits and their actions, shall you know them? In America, this would lead to the progressive er…”