Operation Gladio Prelude to Terror chapter 21

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0:00 Okay, we're going to go ahead and get started. Let me hit go live on Rumble so we can get started. Sounds great. Only about one more day of sanding and finishing, then we just have to wait for the finish to cure. Right. Okay, hold on just a second. I'll be right back. Okay. Are you doing SR71? Nope. I heard you for a split second, then I lost it.

0:57 Am I still lost? No, now you're on. Thank you. Okay, sorry about that. The dog grooming lady is here. And I had to give my grandbaby a kiss goodbye. And now I'm ready. Holy crap. Okay, so we are on Chapter 21. And we're going to start there.

1:32 Ed Wilson, his case had never came to President Carter's attention. Carter had never been briefed on the Safari Club, what it was, what it was doing, according to these CIA agents. Carter also had no idea that because of nearly complete corruption at the top of the Egyptian government, that his peace efforts in the Middle East were being subverted by an illicit business partnership.

2:01 That was stealing millions of dollars and shipping overcharges on the Camp David Accord aid that was supposed to be going to Egypt, which, of course, we've come to realize is something that happens on a regular basis, is the aid never gets to where anyone thinks it's going. What Jimmy Carter was beginning to understand is that he was in a political freefall. His brother Billy and the top advisor, Burt Lance, had both been compromised. And remember,

2:30 Burt Lance was compromised because of the CIA's BCCI bank. So Billy was compromised because of the CIA setting him up over in Libya with Wilson. So basically, you have the CIA taking down a president again. Much of the NSC staff was disloyal to Carter, and he faced a fierce opposition in his own party, Ed Kennedy.

3:04 So, again, this is not unlike what they did to President Trump. As far as the entire cabinet, to include his vice president, was working against him. And no, for those of you out there who have no brains, I'm not comparing President Carter to President Trump. I am just saying that there is an out-of-control CIA.

3:30 that thinks they get to decide who gets to be president and for how long. And it didn't just recently start. And unsurprising to anyone here, we did have someone as of yesterday when I was talking about Jimmy Carter and the CIA's attack on him that basically said that I was being an apologist for Jimmy Carter. And you know what I have to say about that. They can kiss my ass. I'm not being an apologist for anyone.

4:00 We are trying to figure out what the hell the truth is. George Bush was plotting his presidential campaign with the full support of hundreds of angry intelligence officers that had been thrown out of the CIA. Because keep in mind, George Bush Sr. runs against Reagan for the Republican nomination in 1980. When William Casey replaced John Sears as Reagan's campaign manager,

4:31 Largely owing to Nancy Reagan's influence, the two main Republican primary campaigns had men connected to the CIA, one directly and one through a director. In addition to being an OSS agent, Bill Casey had been in a CIA business for a very long time, since basically the time he got out of the OSS.

4:58 He had reported to Robert Anderson, a former Eisenhower Secretary of Treasury, who had informally run business executives for specific CIA missions. Now, I have to stop here again because this is a foot stomper for me. Let me read this again for the people in the back. He had reported to Robert Anderson. Robert Anderson, a former...

5:27 Eisenhower, Secretary of Treasury, who had run business executives for CIA missions, a fusion of CIA and private businesses, which we've been exposing since day one. The merger of politics and intelligence operatives was largely missed by media covering the campaign. And I don't buy that for a second.

5:57 They were paid to miss it because it was very obvious in some cases. Powerful conservative Christian activists also had intelligence connections overseas through ministries and mining interests. And these guys say in Africa and Asia, but we know for a fact that that's true all over the world because we're uncovering it in South America in Thy Will Be Done in Nelson Rockefeller.

6:26 Powerful conservative Christian activists had intelligence connections through ministries and mining interests in Africa and Asia. Literally unlimited funds in hundreds of millions of dollars in Saudi projects in places like Afghanistan, where it climbed to the billions of dollars, were available from Gulf states, courtesy of the Safari Club.

6:55 What would soon become Reagan and Bush's campaign relied on the Safari Club for support as well. His support mainly came from reborn private intelligence community, conservative religious base, dubbed the moral majority, and a political machine.

7:23 Ted Shackley, who had perfected the use of political organizations like labor unions, PR firms, publishers to carry out intelligence operations overseas, were now affiliated with a political campaign that had no hesitation about being used for such techniques domestically as well. His role was to help apply intelligence techniques.

7:55 for the Reagan and Bush campaign. The hidden link between Reagan and Bush campaign and the private network was the businesses that Wilson had financed, like International Research and Trade, IRT. Clines, with Shackley's help, had successfully established himself as the front man for IRT and for the shipping company called

8:25 the Egyptian American Transport and Services Corporation, ETSCO. Egyptian American Transport and Services Corporation, ETSCO. It was established by Klein to cut Wilson's around-the-world shipping out of the picture. So it's going to replace around-the-world shipping in transporting

8:59 drugs, weapons, and that type of thing. According to Klein's, Yitzko's came from an idea that he had to use the connections of Sikord and von Marburg had with the Shah of Iran to be appointed a shipping agent for all U.S. military assistance to the Shah. When the regime collapsed in the hopes of making tens of millions of dollars evaporated,

9:24 Clines and Wilson shifted the entire operation to target the business being offered by the Camp David Accords. And let me just also say, whether it's a peace agenda called the Camp David Accords or what happened in Bosnia or what's going on currently in Ukraine, every single thing that they do has a shipping tail to it.

9:53 So basically what you have is the CIA creates the problem and they create all of the companies that are going to benefit from the problem they created, like shipping and things like that. And then they turn the spigot on in Washington, D.C. by buying off all of the politicians and they all end up with all of that money.

10:22 through USAID, NED, IRI, all of these different entities, the money is going in their pockets, not to the countries, not anywhere else. So there's an address called 7777 Leesburg Pike in Falls Church, Virginia, which is a suburb of Washington, D.C. It was home to another company. And that company, I'm going to spell it.

10:53 B-I-G-U-E-R-I-E. Vigari. And it was named after Richard Vigari, who had developed his reputation as a political operator through his ability to marshal basically people that were on the conservative side of the aisle through sophisticated, computerized, direct mailing operations. Vigari.

11:25 also was a key player in the China lobby, i.e. Taiwan. He had vehemently opposed the U.S. recognition of mainland China. Vigari was also a member of the Georgetown Club, which is another like safari club, China lobby, that type of thing.

11:56 And as a matter of fact, if you guys would post what you can find like on wiki of the Georgetown Club, I know there's a couple of articles out there about it. One of them I found on Yandex from that one site, ISTR or something like that, that weird international site that we have found several of these clubs on. I meant to do that before we started and I forgot.

12:26 The Georgetown Club was started by the Tunson Park Korean intelligence guy who we met because he was instrumental in setting up the World Anti-Communist League as well. And the Georgetown Club also housed another favorite of ours, Robert Gray. Robert Gray had been an Eisenhower cabinet member.

12:56 And Robert Gray was the PR guy that worked at Hill and Knowlton that opened up the prostitute club in downtown D.C. that they used because it was wired to compromise congressmen. So just to give you a flavor of what these people, who these people are. So Robert Gray also worked routinely with Ed Wilson. Gray, who had once headed the Washington office of Hill and Knowlton,

13:27 was one of the most respected and well-known PR people in Washington, D.C. And Hill & Knowlton was like the premier PR firm for anybody that needed anything, like to get you out of trouble, whatever. They were, oh, and by the way, in many of these books that we've read about Hill & Knowlton, it is where the CIA parks people who they want.

13:57 other people to think it's not in the CIA anymore. So they literally had an entire office suite that was just CIA officers hiding out. Not like they were actually hiding. They still did missions and work and everything, but that's how they pretended they weren't in the CIA anymore. They said former CIA officers, but they were all doing CIA work. It just looked like they worked for Hill and Dalton, but they did not. And we found that a lot.

14:30 Many of the lobbyists and executives had basically connections to the intelligence community that was affiliated with Hill and Norton. In Gray's case, he also had a secret of homosexuality. If the news about his personal life became public, it would have ruined his relationship with Republican.

15:00 politicians that he had cultivated a working relationship with. Now, isn't that weird that supposedly only Republicans, and I mean, this is back in the day when that was not necessarily acceptable behavior. I just think that's kind of weird. Wilson had placed Gray on the board of directors of a company called Consultants International, which again was one of his PR front companies.

15:28 used to run spies. Gray, according to Wilson, was already in possession of security clearances to work in the government. Shackley had first gotten to know Gray through Anna Chenault. And Anna Chenault is Claire Chenault, General Claire Chenault's wife, who is Taiwanese, by the way, and related to Chiang Kai-shek, by the way. And she was a big part of the China lobby.

15:59 supporting Taiwan at the expense of mainland China. Anna Chenault, as part of the China lobby, was very good friends with Tunstin Park, the Korean intelligence operative, who was also affiliated with the Unification Church. The most mysterious aspect of Gray's involvement was his close relationship with Park, the Korean. Park had played a major role in a

16:30 scandal involving Rice, which was nicknamed Koreagate, and it involved bribing people's members of Congress back in the 1970s. But it would be Park's later involvement with Manuel Noriega and other Japanese organized crime elements and the Safari Club that would make him a key behind-the-scenes figure in a private intelligence network in the 1980s and 90s.

17:01 Now, I have to stop here for a second because I want to put a couple pieces together. Manuel Noriega, obviously drugs, and obviously the CIA's connection in Central America to the drug network. And Noriega was also part of the Latin America network of the World Anti-Communist League, which we get to.

17:31 In the Alpha Warrior series, the next episode. So the fact that in this book, the CIA agents are linking Manuel Noriega, the Japanese organized crime element. Now, who would that be? Kudama, Susakawa, those two criminals deeply embedded in organized crime in Japan. Also, the leaders of the Unification Church.

18:01 which is Operation Gladio, and also the founding members of the World Anti-Communist League in Japan. And then we have the Safari Club, which we know is Operation Gladio as well. So that paragraph right there says everything about a confirmation about how they're all tied together and tied to Wilson.

18:32 Hill and Knowlton, Robert Gray, the whole nine yards. During Koreagate, Vigari had been involved with Park and the Korean CIA, KCIA. Vigari was paid nearly a million dollars for a direct mail campaign on behalf of the Koreans as a PR campaign. In 1979, shortly after he retired from the CIA, Climes moved to the offices of Eatsco.

19:02 which was also located at 7777 Leesburg Pike as a tenant of Bakari's. So you already have Bakari and his Bakari company. Now we have Itzko at that same location, and both of them are CIA operations. Many of old Wilson's operatives, like Don Lowers,

19:32 also relocated to this new office. This is a quote. The reality is that 7777 Leesburg Pike became the headquarters for the private CIA, made up of all the people that Carter fired. That was said by Mike Pilgrims, one of the former CIA officers. The connection between the Republican Party

20:04 and Shackley's associates would be the hallmark of the private intelligence operation throughout the Reagan-Bush administration. Instead of working through CIA stations abroad and spying and covert operations that would be done in a normal CIA station to station, they were going to be done through using conservative political

20:34 organizations all over the world, to include the church. Throughout the 1980s presidential campaign, the FBI continued to investigate Wilson. Shackley was a cooperating source of information. I bet he was, because he's the one setting him up. This reinforced the idea that Wilson had no relationship.

20:59 to the CIA since the early 70s, which of course we've proven throughout this entire thing, that's a false statement. The FBI agents asked Shackley vague questions and then timidly asked him to take a lie detector. Shackley refused to do that. The FBI agent who interviewed Shackley said he considered taking the examination an insult to his credibility.

21:26 This was the same Ted Shackley who in Vietnam had had no hesitation in issuing an order to kill a suspected enemy agent who had failed a eye detector test. Peter Kapusta, who was a counterintelligence officer in the Soviet division of the CIA, didn't recall Shackley ever being anything other than enthusiastic about a polygraph test.

21:56 when he's going to kill the people who were taking it. But he says to the FBI agent that in his opinion, they were not reliable. So they're reliable to kill people when he has the gun, but when it involves him and his credibility, they're not reliable. So because Clines, after he left the CIA in 1979, had taken over all of Wilson's operations,

22:23 Shackley was able to structure his own retirement in 1980 so that it appeared that he had gone to work for Klein's in Ed Wilson's old company. This gave Shackley deniability when the FBI asked him about activities outside of what he had confessed to be involved in. Shackley told the FBI on hindsight he considered it a mistake that he went to work for Klein's.

22:53 He also told the Bureau that he did not want to get involved in any activity that involved materials that went bang or boom. Sure. It was not until 1983 that Shackley was even mildly questioned about working at Eatsco. More than a year after Wilson had been lured back to the United States and arrested. Shackley claimed not to have known Klein's partner, who his partners were.

23:23 though he was present at every meeting about Itzko. When the FBI confronted him with the allegation that he was one of the original partners, Shackley responded very carefully. According to his FBI 302, this is a quote. At this point in the interview, Shackley was advised that allegations had been received that he, along with Ed Wilson, Tom Clines, Eric von Marbog,

23:52 and Dick Secord had allegedly formed a business group of which each would have 20% interest, with Wilson providing funding, Von Marbog and Secord being silent partners, and Klein and Shackley being out front individuals regarding the business, unquote, which is exactly what happened. In response to this, Shackley said that he was not part of any such business arrangement.

24:20 He was aware that Tom Clines got a loan for a company called Arcadia Limited and that Ed Wilson assisted Clines in getting the loan. He did not know who the principals were, according to him. And he said that at the time, he was not concerned with whom Clines got his money from to set up the business. He said he did not have any capital invested in any of Clines' businesses, but went to work for Clines as an employee.

24:51 and consultant at SSI, the API Distributors Incorporated, and in International Research and Trade. Those are the names of all those companies. It goes on to say, Shackley denied having a 20% interest in any business association with Wilson, Kleins, Von Marbog, or Secord. He said Kleins created a business situation and he went to work for Kleins. Shackley said IRT was formed. He was...

25:22 when IRT was formed, he was interested in it, but he had decided not to participate in its formation, according to the 302. Then Shackley told the FBI agent something a little closer to the truth. Quote, Shackley said he was an office manager consultant for all three of these companies and that he was paid a salary by API.

25:47 He said that if all of these companies did well, he expected to be compensated accordingly. However, there was no formula that does, quote unquote, 20 percent, unquote. Shackley confirmed to the Bureau that he was aware that the seed money for all of those operations came from Wilson. Shackley was too far too modest about his role in the organization, quote unquote, owned by Klein.

26:15 Scores of witnesses such as Clines, Capucci, Secord, von Marburg all told the FBI that Shackley was the boss, not even just an equal partner. He was in charge. As for Wilson, the man who underplayed all of these people, his long run of good luck was coming to an end. The Libyans cut off payment to him and he was having difficulty meeting payroll.

26:43 On the home front, he was being told that the companies in which he had invested simply were not making money any longer and that he could not be paid back. Klein kept lying to me. He said nothing was panning out, Wilson said. Meanwhile, as the Justice Department kept moving closer and closer to indicting him, Wilson, who is not a stupid man, was still blind to the fact that Shackley was trying to destroy him. In April 1980, federal prosecutor

27:12 Larry Barcella succeeded in getting a grand jury indictment on Wilson. Wilson was now a wanted man, and his need for funds was even more desperate. In April 1980, this is a quote from him, I'm under indictment, so I can't come out. So I contact Clines when he comes to London. I said, I want my $500,000 back. He says, oh, we can't do that. We spin it.

27:41 He goes on to say, Tom, I want that $500,000 and I'm going to start screaming. So they paid the $500,000. They paid about $450,000 and then I sort of let it go. Then I found out through my other sources that they made about $10 million from the companies of his. The deal was a great project. So then I said, if they're going to screw me like that, and they did.

28:10 They literally fenced up the press, tried to get me killed down there. They really did. So he had an assassination attempt put out on him. So they really, really didn't want to pay it back. Wilson was referring to a series of stories leaked saying that Wilson was a CIA employee causing Libya intelligence officials to wonder whom they had been dealing with for the last five years. So the CIA themselves.

28:43 starts leaking the fact that he was working for the CIA at the same time the CIA is saying he doesn't work for them, trying to get him killed while putting people in jail for the same thing, saying someone actually works for the CIA that actually worked for the CIA. See how that works? Wilson said that Clines and Barsala

29:08 also put out a story that he was cheating the Libyans in his business deals with them. For the first time, Wilson now realizes what's going on. Ignoring the fact that Itzko getting the shipping contract instead of around the world shipping was an outrage. Wilson, even in prison, insisted, if I had been out and I had put that thing together on the Egyptian thing, first of all, it would have all been legal.

29:36 They would have really shipped the stuff instead of trying to steal the money. I would have used my own freight forwarding company. So I would have had control of the entire thing. And I would have been able to control clients. I would have said, you're not going to do this. You're not going to do that. And we would have made a lot of money, legitimate money, abandoned by the CIA. Wilson had only one alternative.

30:04 and that was to try to appease Larry Barcella. He tried to give him something he desired even more than Wilson's arrest. Wilson rightly concluded from conversations with Chi Chi Quintero that Barcella wanted the most, what he wanted most was the two Cubans that had assassinated Ladier in Washington, D.C. And you guys remember, that's the former Chilean ambassador.

30:34 that had a bomb put in his car by who? The CIA. Wilson also had a personal reason to try to find the two fugitives. If they were found and convicted, that might stop the rumors planted by Shackley that Wilson himself was behind the murders. Clearly, Wilson believed that Quintero not only knew who the killers were, but he also knew how to find them.

30:59 Wilson put Quintero on his payroll and spent over $100,000 on the search for Dianezo Suarez and Vargelio Pablo Paz Suarez, whom Varsala actually had had in custody at one time, had been allowed to be released, and the more dangerous one, Paz, P-A-Z, had been at large for nearly four years.

31:26 during which they were suspected of additional assassinations under Operation Condor. It was not long before the fugitives were spotted in Ecuador, but nothing came of it. It would be another six years and a whole bunch of more dead bodies before they were apprehended and given considerably light sentences.

31:56 because they were working for the CIA. Wilson continued, quote, Quintero was working for Army Intelligence at the time, so all the time I'm sending him this information, it's going to Army Intelligence. Now, whether Barcella's getting it or not, I don't know, unquote. Documents released under FOIA confirmed that not only was Quintero working for Wilson,

32:23 and for the Army intelligence, but also that he was reporting to his Army intelligence, hold on, reporting to his Army intelligence control everything that he was told by Wilson. That material, in turn, was being disseminated to Shackley and Clines, who continued to maintain relationships with Quantero's Army.

32:54 intelligence control officer. That meant that Klein and Shackley were fully aware of everything that Varsala was doing in his investigation of Pinochet down in Chile, the dictator that they had all installed there, and Pinochet's intelligence services. In this situation in Libya, growing more precarious every day, Wilson started looking for other locations from which he could operate while avoiding arrest and extradition.

33:26 Wilson's main PLO contact told him that he was being transferred to Malta and urged Wilson to settle there. Wilson said, I could rent a villa over there and get out of Libya for once in a while if I wanted to. So I went to Malta and I met with the president and VP to possibly set up business there. I rented an office and was on my way to having an operation in Malta.

33:52 I took Bobby Barnes over there with me. I had a beautiful villa. It was a pleasant interlude to get out of Libya. However, the PLO guy was an idiot. And one day I went back to Libya and I was arrested in the car and thrown into a small room with a bucket to pee in and nothing to eat except for egg sandwiches for 10 days.

34:17 Eventually, they threw me out of the country. They put me on a plane to London, thinking that the British would arrest me. I went to London, got off the plane about midnight, came to a gate, and the man said, you cannot come out here. You've got to go through customs. I knew that I would be arrested at customs. I knew I would be seriously hurt. And this man, I knew I could seriously hurt this man or even kill him and be a free man, but I couldn't do it.

34:44 I went up to customs. I was one of the last ones through. I acted as if I was in a hurry. He stamped my passport without even looking at my picture. Bobby Barnes comes. I rented a room for cash under a fake name. I rented a small plane and we flew to Belgium. Oh, shoot. Hold on. There we go. In Belgium, Wilson met Annal, A-N-N-A-L, Donny, D-O-N-N-E-Y.

35:16 Donnie is a name that's come up before. He is a Belgian arms dealer. They discussed getting surplus equipment to Libya that the French had used other places in the South Pacific. Wilson went to great lengths to send details to Libya's nuclear program of Libya's nuclear program back to the U.S.

35:43 Wilson's defense lawyers would later cite this as an example to show that he was still providing intelligence to the U.S. The prosecution, however, claimed that the material Wilson sent was not worth that much. Yet after the Wilson trial, these materials were quietly classified top secret. Huh. They weren't worth anything to help him, but they were highly classified great information.

36:12 when it wasn't going to help him. When a top scientist with the U.S. nuclear program was asked for this book to review the material Wilson had provided, he agreed only on the condition that he not be named publicly. The scientist said the material demonstrated that Libya was pursuing a serious and credible nuclear weapons program. I can tell you we did not have this intelligence prior to Wilson.

36:39 With the success of ETHCO, the principals and Kamal Adom shared in its profits. One was the need to have a series of bank affiliations to hide all of their transactions. Another was the need for a closed system for the intelligence and business operations to be funded. For Ted Shackley and his cohort, the need for a bank to launder profits through was acute.

37:10 Eatsco was generating millions and millions of dollars in cash. Von Marbog and Climes were not in a position to make large cash deposits at local banks. Shirley Brill witnessed firsthand just what a problem all that cash was for Eatsco. In early 1981, on a trip to Geneva, Climes asked to borrow Brill's black travel bag.

37:39 Brill said that Clines filled it up with $100 bills. She couldn't recall ever having seen that much cash. To her surprise, Von Marbog was in Geneva in a disguise that included a red beard. Clines handed the bag of money to Von Marbog. When Brill asked Clines why he had given Von Marbog all of the cash, he said, quote, you know that Von Marbog is part of Eatsco.

38:07 just like Secord, Shackley, and Wilson, unquote. But Klein's good friend, Bernie Houghton, had an idea. And you remember who Bernie Houghton is. Bernie Houghton is the guy down, I mean, he's DIA, but he's the guy that was in Australia that set up the R&R destination for all the guys out of Vietnam and was the number three guy at Nugent Hand. At the time, Kamal,

38:38 was moving many of his operations, including BCCI, to London and Paris. He was cultivating both the husband and the son of Margaret Thatcher through various business deals. Eventually, the Soddy family would bring young Mark Thatcher into the arms business. They would use BCCI to finance the deals

39:08 all of the money through the merchant bank in the city of London. Shackley, meanwhile, was interested in banking, or excuse me, breaking into what was known as the royalty crude structure in Saudi Arabia. His FBI report said, in this regard, the king who rules Saudi Arabia allocates amounts of oil to various princes who are members of the royal family.

39:38 Shackley determined that Houghton had access to these people in Saudi Arabia. And during his meeting with Houghton, he gave Houghton a tutorial on the oil market and Houghton gave him a tutorial on world banking because Houghton was very involved in world banking as it relates to the CIA. The solution Shackley and his friends concluded would be the best for Adam's banking problems.

40:07 was the remnants of John Stonehouse's operation. Stonehouse had been a banker and a member of the British Parliament who had faked his own suicide and had taken deposits to Australia. Oh, please don't tell me what I think I'm going to read. Just kidding, I've already read it. Stonehouse had been captured and brought to justice and what remained of his bank was put up for sale.

40:44 with more honesty than other Houghton depositors. Houghton persuaded Klein to use Ricardo Chavez, the anti-Castro Cuban who had fronted for CIA operations in Mexico and a man ill-suited to the world of the City of London banking. He was going to use the Ricardo Chavez guy as a front to purchase the bank.

41:14 But Chavez was fronting not just for Klein's, but also for Anastasio Somoza. By now, deposed and spending most of his time in Miami looking after the money he had already looted from Nicaragua with the help of the CIA. So Somoza, just so that you guys know, is the CIA propped up guy in Nicaragua.

41:45 That had been bought out or bought basically by the CIA and United Fruit that sold his whole country out. So he's fat, dumb and happy in Miami with all of his CIA United Fruit stash. The brains behind the bank purchase was Donald Beasley. And you spell his name B-E-A-Z-L-E-Y. Donald Beasley joined.

42:14 Nugent Hand Bank in 1977, when he had been asked to buy one of Paul Helliwell's old fronts called Second National Bank of Homestead on behalf of Nugent Hand. So let's put this in perspective. Paul Helliwell, CIA bank guy, the guy that was the military attestate to Chiang Kai-shek and the whole drug setup.

42:45 Got on the phone, called Alan Dulles, say, hey, I got an idea post-World War II how we can fund the whole covert operation thing. We can sell drugs. And they all collectively agreed that was a great idea. We're going to take care of Chiang Kai-shek. We set him up in Burma, moved him around. He spent a little bit of time in Vietnam. Then he goes to Taiwan and sets up the World Anti-Communist League for drugs and Operation Gladio stuff.

43:15 That Paul Helliwell is a lawyer. And remember, he ends up being the Thailand consul of Miami. What? Why would Thailand have a consul like semi-embassy in Miami other than the fact that they're running drugs and using Paul Helliwell's bank as a front, Castle Bank at the time?

43:45 And so Paul Halliwell also had a bank called Second National Bank of Homestead, which was also a CIA front bank. And this Donald Beasley guy joined Nugent Hand Bank, which is a CIA front bank in Australia, and was asked to buy Paul Halliwell's CIA bank, Second National Bank of Homestead, under the guise of Nugent Hand to make it a branch.

44:15 Because, you know, it's a lot easier to money launder when you have a local branch so that all the Miami guys can drop off their cash there and then they can send it overseas. Houghton delivered $300,000 in Thomas Cook traveler's checks to a guy by the name of Dennis Moselman. I'm going to spell that. M-O-S-S-E-L-M-O-N. He's a British businessman selling London capital securities.

44:45 as the Stonehouse Bank was then known. So the Stonehouse Bank was known as London Capital Securities Limited. Most of the traveler's checks were traced back to Saudi Arabia, where Houghton had taken in millions in Nugent Hand depositors that their depositors would never see again. Some of those funds went to purchase.

45:16 the initial 50% interest in the bank. Beasley ran the bank for Clines and Chavez until October of 1980 when he resigned. Somoza's funds, as well as Itzko's money, were all ran through this bank. Beasley pleaded total ignorance about Chavez to the Australian authorities who eventually investigated Nugent Hand's collapse.

45:45 and its ties to the London Capital Securities Company. That company changed its name to City Trust Limited. The Australian investigation concluded in 1983 with a report that said Beasley, quote, appeared to be vague and distant from some of the matters which one would reasonably expect a man of his profession to be conversant in and very familiar with, unquote. Yeah, he wasn't unfamiliar with it. He was lying.

46:16 Beasley's loyalty to the CIA would not go unnoticed by the Reagan administration. The great mystery of Chavez's bank is exactly what connections it had to the London merchant bank, First National, of which George Bush was the chairman. Isn't that interesting? Kamal Atom and BCCI both did business with First National, and so did global...

46:49 International Airways, which was set up as the air wing of ETHCO, meaning that it's a CIA front. Not only did Kamal Adom assist in creating global international airlines, but James Cunningham, who had worked with Shackley and Laos as a manager of Air America, another CIA front company, was brought in to build the airline around the Iranian front man named

47:18 Farhad, F-A-R-H-A-D, Azima, A-Z-I-M-A. He had ties to SAVAK. Global International would be used to ship arms to Iran before and during Iran-Contra. They also was the preferred air carrier for the CIA's building of the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

47:49 Cunningham was the CIA airline pioneer who had first discovered Ed Wilson's talent of opening businesses as fronts for the CIA. He would end his career by creating Pan Aviation, a U.S. proprietary that was set up and used by the CIA to ferry Saddam.

48:19 Hussein's weapons into and out of Iraq by that guy with a weird name, Sarkis Soghanalian. S-O-G-H-A-N-A-L-I-A-N. So back home, Clines and Shackley were doing very well out of the company API. Also, the company SSI and ETSCO, all of which...

48:48 they had basically stolen from Wilson. Although Wilson had been slowly paid back most of his $500,000 loan, he never received any of the millions in the profits, which were supposed to be 20% his. For Shirley Brill, Klein's betrayal of Wilson was overshadowed by expensive trips to Europe.

49:15 as well as social encounters with the high officials of the Egyptian government. State dinners at the Egyptian embassy in Washington, D.C., visits by President Sadat, and informal socializing with Vice President Mubarak became routine. During this period, Brill said Klein was being very open with her about putting Ed in a safe place, i.e. jail. He said Ed had to be set up and put in jail.

49:44 or we will never make any money. There was no need for Wilson anymore. Clines and Shackley now had a source of steady cash for their network of private intelligence operations outside of the CIA. Shackley was talking about how George Bush was probably going to be the next president, which meant he would be the next director of the CIA. Also,

50:13 And of course, this is still leading up to the 1980 election, of which we know Bush didn't win, but he did become vice president. So that's it for that chapter. And we're going to get back to in the next little thing more about Saudi Arabia and Richard Helms, who he was still in Iran.

50:47 We're going to catch up with him again. And then we will talk about much of the action that happened once Bush and Reagan get into office and how Donald Gregg runs the Iran-Contra with my favorite Cuban exile assassin killer, Frederick Rodriguez.

51:14 We're going to go through and see what the CIA agents have to say about them. But again, the reason why I wanted to. Oh, and then we will find out how they tricked Wilson into coming back in the United States, which they do when he goes to jail. But again, the reason why I wanted to do this, because there's little tidbits in here that before I read this book, now I've read an entire book, this book.

51:45 called The Outlaw Bank BCCI. And I've read two other books that prominently figured BCCI in the drugs CIA, but I had not heard of the one guy, where'd his name go? Well, number one, I'd never heard of the Vigari company. That was a new one on me. And I also,

52:17 had not heard of, where did his name go? You can tell I haven't heard of him because this is the first book that I read that he was in it. So his name's not like drilled into my head like the rest of these guys. Let me find his name again. I had never heard of Annal Donnie, the Belgian arms dealer. I had not heard of him. And I had heard that Margaret Thatcher's son,

52:49 And husband was intimately involved in all of this dirty, nasty shit because that was kind of similar. Churchill's son was as well. And of course, we know Kermit Roosevelt, who was Teddy Roosevelt's grandson, was as well. OK, Donald Beasley. I had never heard of Donald Beasley. And again, how do I not? If I ever heard of him, let me check real quick.

53:20 I don't remember his name. So they didn't. I mean, it wasn't like he was a big deal in any of the BCCI things. And then come to find out he's like one of the main players in it. Speaking of which, yeah, he's not even in this book. This entire book is about BCCI and that guy's not in it anywhere, which is why you have to read all these books. So you can figure out who all these people are. Having said that.

53:48 And it's a nice segue. I got a DM yesterday from a fellow retired colonel who has done a lot of research into some of the very similar things. So after the show today, I'm going to work with him to do a show with him. And I think the show with him, because he's an expert in BCCI.

54:19 And, you know, we've done a lot of or I think Nugent Hand. I don't remember one of the two, maybe both. So they did the same thing at the same time. I'm sure there's a lot of overlap. But anyway, I'm very excited about being able to talk to him about the research that he's done and just basically in general, his military career, because we have he he was.

54:48 He came in later than I did. But we have some very common interest in the things that we've been pursuing since our retirement. So I think you guys will love that. Bridget, go ahead. Wow. Wow. And just wow. There was a lot of new names that came up today. And in researching those, that each was like a linchpin in so many different.

55:22 And they got caught in a lot of these situations, a lot of different other shipping lines and airlines. Yes. I'm just shocked. I'm just floored. You could spend a month just reading all the information that is out there that was exposed when all this happened and then quietly tucked away and disappeared on the back page of some newspaper. Right.

55:50 That, I think, is the beauty of us doing what we're doing is putting it all together. So what they obviously what they do is they, as you articulated, they put it on the back page or, you know, section C, page 10. So it's all eventually out there, but not in a cohesive fashion that you're able to see all the pieces together, which is the beauty of going through these books.

56:20 And in the methodical way that we're doing it over the course of the last year and a half or however long we've been doing this, with each book, we're adding a new piece to the puzzle while reinforcing the facts that we've learned in all of the other books so that in our brain.

56:41 They're all kind of melding into a cohesive picture, which, of course, we jokingly call wearing your Gladio glasses, because it all begins to make a whole lot more sense on how everything got to where they're at today. Absolutely. Absolutely. And how it's so interwoven and interconnected.

57:12 And like I said, and then shuffled off onto the back page of some newspaper. Yes. Well, and that's so that you never put the pieces together. You may have this little piece over here, and then you may miss this piece, and then you get this other piece over here. And without, you know, even if they have the same color in them, if you're a puzzle person, you're never going to realize they all fit together.

57:41 Absolutely. And the framework that and I guess that's what it is, the framework that we've already put together. Now it does. It's like we have already assembled the outside edges of the puzzle. All we're doing is putting the inside pieces in by color. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I was going to say coloring in a page. And all of a sudden it becomes so much more. Yeah. Vivid. So much more. Yeah. Yeah.

58:10 Tell her go crazy. Yeah, exactly. Well, I was going to say it's like and I'll do the opposite. It's like they have this whole thing that's set up and the things that you're bringing up now still have ties to what's going on today. So there's this whole puzzle under underneath that we don't see, you know, and then there's another layer on top of it. And as you're exposing all these different things, that puzzle on top.

58:35 you know, we're putting it together, but also taking it apart. But as you take it apart to put the puzzle over on this other side, you see this whole other thing underneath that's just unbelievable. Yeah, that was a whole bunch of mixed concepts there, but I knew exactly what you were saying and you're exactly right. It's putting the puzzle together reveals hidden pictures.

59:02 Correct. And then, I mean, even like with that one man who was assassinated yesterday with UnitedHealthcare and just because of these companies that have things to do with the banks and we know the insurance companies, the mortgage, you know, like AIG or whatever, you know, like all these other things, they all are all interlinked. And you said that whenever there's like any of these international syndicate people that they set people up with, you know, there's always a bank that's involved and there's always some sort of an insurance company somewhere else.

59:30 And from what I'm seeing, that guy might have ended up, he was probably, in my opinion, I think he was a whistleblower because he got busted over a year ago and the feds came down on him and stuff. And then when they made it all open into the public, I think that they're trying to make it sound like it's a disgruntled stock owner or whatever, or an investor that hired the assassin. But I think that we're going to find that there's probably more involved with it.

59:52 in my personal opinion, because now with Gladio glasses on, everything I see is them trying to clean up whatever it is that they've got going, if that makes any sense. It makes perfect sense. And we were saying basically the same thing this morning. You really have to consider that angle on almost every hit that we've looked at. The hit occurred because the people were starting to talk. You shut up.

1:00:25 You're fine. Exactly. I mean, even to like, you know, what's going on, you know, like we know what happened in North Carolina and stuff. And yesterday or two days ago, because I was in and out, but I couldn't talk. But I wanted to bring this up. Where were the bio labs that were in North Carolina? What do you mean? Well, because you know how they had all that flooding and stuff and we know that they wanted the mines and things. But we were at the university there. Oh, OK. Yeah. And what?

1:00:54 Fort Detrick, too. Well, but in North Carolina, she specifically asked. That was at the college campus there in North Carolina. Oh, okay. All right. Well, at least those were... Because I was thinking that they were somewhere nearby and they were trying to destroy their underground stuff. And in the meantime, it was like a twofer because then they could take the land.

1:01:14 For because, again, insurance companies, but they could take the land for the minerals and the crystals and stuff like that. That's there. So I didn't know. I just thought that it was another thing that, you know, another thing that they were trying to either cover up or, you know, underneath what was going on. Just because you have the the actual lab at a university doesn't mean that all of the testing, because remember the one monkeys that keep getting.

1:01:44 loose, they're lab monkeys. Just because you have a campus somewhere doesn't mean all of the operations happen specifically on that campus. And the best example of that is down in Miami when the Cuban exiles were doing their terrorist training camp, the CIA, one of their stations was actually on the University of Miami.

1:02:10 But that's not where they actually did the training. The training was done at another location over by a mockly Lake Okeechobee. So that you could very well be on to something stellar. Well, because like with what's going on in Taiwan, we know there's a lot of biolabs there. And then like you guys have been talking about the biolabs that are here in the United States and they ship it to Ukraine.

1:02:35 maybe weaponize it even more. And then they took it over to Wuhan, you know, and then you see what's going on with China. And, you know, we know that Taiwan has a bunch of them. We know that Ukraine has a bunch of them. And it seems like these places are getting destroyed, if that makes any sense, whether it's through war or flooding. I mean, even Spain over the last month has had massive, massive amounts of rain too. And that's where part of the, you know, Dominion, the other company that was part of it was out of Spain. So I was just...

1:03:04 I don't know, with all these things just happening, just being outside and, you know, because there aren't really any coincidences. And then after that insurance guy got murdered yesterday, then it was like, ha ha. I wonder, you know, so I don't know. I'm just too much of a conspiracy theorist. Well, at this point, so many things are that we would have considered a conspiracy theory have been proven true in their own words.

1:03:35 Again, I don't know, and we can speculate about all of that, but yeah, it's very interesting. Mayor Sarge is saying that the university specifically in North Carolina was Duke University, and that's where EcoHealth Alliance had their experimentations, and that the monkeys escaping was in South Carolina. However, you do have to give me the fact that

1:04:02 The monkeys escaping just because they're in South Carolina. They have a very long border. They still could have been very close. As a matter of fact, some of Duke's locations are along the South Carolina border. Yeah, I was wondering because I just saw something recently in the past couple of days, too, because, again, I've been so busy with other stuff.

1:04:24 But, you know, that there's, you know, it sounds like they're trying to get another epidemic, you know, in the forerunner and stuff. And so that's why it's just all these different things seem to be all showing up, cycling back around and things. And since we know what happened with COVID and all these other things, you know, like with the bioweapons or the biolapse or whatever, I just, you know, I don't know. Just, it's fishy. We'll keep an open mind. Tim, go ahead. Thanks, Colonel Taylor. Just a question.

1:04:54 These NGOs, non-governmental organizations that are all over the world, like even in Africa where that billion dollars went to. That's all Gladio stuff, too, isn't it? So I can't say unilaterally that all NGOs are Operation Gladio. What I can tell you is we have found numerous. Well, first of all, non-governmental organizations are an oxymoron because in many cases.

1:05:21 The quote unquote non-governmental organizations are funded by the government, which to me makes them not not governmental, non-governmental. So it makes them actually part of the government. It's a money laundering thing. So having said that, if you're talking about nonprofits.

1:05:40 like the World Wildlife Fund, the Safari Club, they are all registered nonprofits, as is the International Republican Institute, the IRI, that was created with the National Endowment for Democracy, which also is supposed to be a nonprofit, non-governmental organization funded almost exclusively by government funds. So, yes, many of those have been used as fronts for Operation

1:06:13 Does that answer your question? Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Sure. And where we find them, we call them out because there's a lot of them. The American Security Council, the China lobby, the World Anti-Communist League, all of them were touted as being nonprofit, if not NGOs, when in fact.

1:06:44 Most of them are almost exclusively funded by the government and involve in overthrowing governments. Carrie, go ahead. Yeah. Hi, Colonel. So I had an idea. Tell me what you think of it. I was watching this movie and I know you don't watch movies, but it's called Room 237.

1:07:18 And it's about Stanley Kubrick, who is a famous filmmaker. And the like symbols that he used kind of under the table, so to speak, like there would be a can of baking soda and had Indian on it. And that had meaning. I was thinking that when the map is made,

1:07:49 You know how they use the panda, right? Right. So we could attach the symbols that they're using because to, you know, the people or whatever, or organization, because then when they use it in the future, we can just be like, oh, okay, that's connected to that. Right. Anyway, thanks. Sure. Tim, go ahead.

1:08:18 Oh, I'm sorry. I'm glitching. I can't get my hand down. Excuse me. OK, that's funny. I'm sorry. Mayor Sarge over on Rumble also said that they had the International Bird Flu Summit last month. And that is where the there was there was in the aftermath of that summit. There were things printed about a new.

1:08:49 they didn't use the word pandemic, but basically pandemic potential after sometime during 2025. So I'm sure no one of us is shocked by that because, of course, they're not going to roll over and play dead now that they've had the power taken away from them. They will try to sabotage.

1:09:19 And I did find. Let me see how I say this. Alpha, a couple of days ago, interviewed General Flynn and he has a sidekick that I guess they're doing joint shows now. And it's I can't remember his name. I shouldn't call him a sidekick, but a partner. It's an excellent show. I recommend you.

1:09:50 Listening to it, the the one thing that I would that I picked up on was General Flynn's mentioning of the activities that was happening in South America. And if you guys do listen to it, I'd love to hear your take on the how he kind of frames.

1:10:19 He wasn't necessarily involved. I mean, obviously, he was a very junior officer at the time those things were happening. But I am interested in you guys take on that based on what we now know was happening, because it's and I will tell you mine. It was readily apparent to me that what I have, what I experienced is also what many other people experience.

1:10:48 And that is that we get intelligence, actionable intelligence from the CIA. Oftentimes that actionable intelligence is lies pushing a narrative that they want to have happen on behalf of the international syndicate. And there has been occasion where military intelligence has said something completely opposite. And I did a thread today, kind of,

1:11:20 pointing that out. But oftentimes it is not the military intelligence that wins that day. A lot of times it's the CIA's intelligence. And if they can't get the military to bite on their intelligence, which is all lies, they'll just go off and do it their own self with their hired hands.

1:11:44 Now, they prefer to have the military do it because they know the American people won't ever come down hard on the military, even when they totally F it up, like we did in Vietnam. Everyone still reveres the military, even when they are dead F wrong. And that's why the CIA's first option is always going to be selling the mission, regardless of...

1:12:14 how bogus it is or how bogus the intelligence is of that mission, they're going to try to sell it to the military to do it using soft or whatever special forces because there's a built-in indemnity. Number one, should anything go wrong, it won't blow back on the CIA because it's classified. And number two, we cut our military people a lot of slack.

1:12:41 And the CIA takes advantage of that repeatedly. So anyway, if you guys haven't listened to it, I highly recommend you listen to it. We also talked about last night on the Alpha Warrior show, the World Anti-Communist League's Latin America slash primarily Mexico's branch. We're going to go into the Latin American expansion of it probably the next time.

1:13:16 And then we're going to go into the American version of it and how it got taken over. And then we'll probably be wrapping up that series. I've just been fascinated by it because it seems to have so many overarching ramifications for this entire infrastructure that was set up to carry out all of these assassinations, overthrows and everything else that I didn't even know existed.

1:13:45 until just very recently when we started doing a deep dive in the World Anti-Communist League. And once you're a year into this, you think there's probably not going to be a whole lot more surprises, only to be blown away by the next rock you pick up. So anyway, I don't see any more hands. If we've got all the questions answered, does anybody else have anything? Yeah, Colonel, I want to sort of dig into Stellar's point because it's got me.

1:14:17 thinking here why certain people are coming up and talking now and my the only thing i can come up with at this point is that the reason they're talking is because they were just a little piece in the puzzle they're now seeing the entire picture and they're saying i don't want to be part of that period i know i did something wrong but you people really went beyond the scope and that's why i'm talking

1:14:53 That's an excellent point, SR71. The problem is once you're in, it's almost impossible to get out except for being suicided. So that's an excellent point. Or assassinated. Well, that's suicided in my book. You're a dead body, regardless of the means in which that occurs. Yeah.

1:15:27 And one thing that you brought up last night on Alpha Warrior and Alpha Warrior brought up that I just wanted to have you reiterate about one of the things you guys noticed about the UnitedHealthcare guy that got suicided or shot. Assassinated. Assassinated. The guy, there were certain things that stood out to you that may not stand out to anybody else.

1:15:57 to you and Alpha, and that called certain points into play, like that this was maybe not a professional hit? Can you expand on it for everybody? Yeah, there's different levels of professional hits. That's probably the best way of saying that. The first thing you noticed, the first thing that I noticed was the passerby.

1:16:28 So he's shooting and there's someone on the sidewalk there coming at his face while he's shooting and he allows that person to just walk on by. There is never in any of these stories, not like stories as in not true, but any of these tells.

1:16:56 They go in and they will knock out everybody in the vicinity. If it's the, like, you're not ever going to find me kind of hit, I am going to recede into the black and you will never find me. You know, there's certain things that happen. They will not have a phone. They're not going to have a white backpack on their back. And they're not going to stop by Starbucks and get a drink. Okay? That just does not happen. So, it's...

1:17:25 not that level or that kind of an assassination. Now, if whoever arranged the assassination wants a stooge, an Oswald character to take the fall, what we saw unfold has all the hallmarks of that. Somebody spotted him.

1:17:53 Readily identified person because of the white backpack. Not that great of a shot technique wise with a gun jamming at least three times. Identifiable traceable bullets. So there's an entire sequence of events that occurred that indicate.

1:18:22 They want you to know who did it, but who did it isn't who arranged it. Benjamin? A narrative being seeded. A narrative being seeded. Yes. Well done, Bridget. Benjamin, go ahead. Hi, Colonel. Hi, everybody. I love that take. I saw a video about that situation where the guy got on a scooter and a kid tracked him down where he went.

1:18:54 sr said some stuff that that made me pop up real quick um he was talking about how there's a lot of people coming out now and i think uh like for me the the way i see it my perspective on it is like never before in the past for one one level is you know we didn't realize the the level of how bad and all the things that was going on that's something that's been you know

1:19:21 trickled down to us for lack of a better term over the years, especially the last eight years. And I think a lot of people identify what's going on. So that's why there's so many people coming out now. Because the way I look at it is what happened in America is we have a virus. And all the people that are coming out, they're like white blood cells in a body. And they're there to...

1:19:48 to attack this virus. And that's what we need. Like lack of information, you know, all, all this media, what's been going on. It's, it's pretty interesting how, how it all works out, but I see it as a body, all these people coming out and it's going somewhere for me. A lot of people are scared and it's like, uh, there's too much going on too much happening for this not to be real kind of thing. I agree. And that's a great assessment. Yep. I agree. Um, yeah.

1:20:23 So anyway, I hope that answered your question, Bridget. Yes, ma'am. Yeah, not really a question, just wanting me to kind of go over what we had talked about. So you also have kind of like a third category of, you know, just a passerby, a random shooting. And that obviously was not a random shooting because you're not going to have a silencer and, you know, all of that other stuff.

1:20:54 Right. And just the points you guys had made, you know, again, having gone through so many of these different suicides, assassinations, etc. Things stand out, you know, and, you know, having a leaving on a trackable bicycle. You know, there's just so many. I mean, it's like ridiculously stupid. Having written.

1:21:26 Those words on the casing, but not gotten them exactly right. Ridiculously stupid. They're trying to see this as a narrative to follow for some reason, for some future. And another telltale sign is having an escape vehicle with drivers. You know, that's the top of the rung professional hit. They jump out.

1:21:56 They do their assassination and they're gone and it's not on a bicycle. Sorry. Well, and on top of it, just to add to that, like professionals, they plan everything out. Like it's kind of like the movie, you know, you, you gotta know all the angles. Like they wouldn't have cameras. They wouldn't have some random dude sitting on the side, leaning on the building and everything. Like it was too dirty for it to be professional. Correct. But that doesn't mean that it's a random thing either.

1:22:26 Right. And they have a picture of his face already. You know, it just kind of reminds me, you know, it's like something that was set up already or if that makes any sense because they've got his picture going all over the place. Yeah, it's like having a stooge. So it's the semi-professional hit of using someone. So we know it's not a random hit and it's not a professional CIA assassin team either. It is someone.

1:22:57 communicating a message in a way that we don't completely understand. Like the guy that tried to kill Donald Trump, the boy, and then they had the FBI phone numbers and he was in a BlackRock commercial or something like that. And it just so happened that so was that other guy who tried to do it the second time. It just seems like it's one of those things. I don't know. They are trying to communicate.

1:23:26 something to someone and as was alluded to earlier if there are people talking as a result of the lawsuit for insider trading and this is not a cia professional hit they were communicating to the rest of them that you will go next so benjamin go ahead well that that was going to be my question i haven't been able to take a deep dive into the guy and

1:23:59 the story behind him and why they would want to take him out? You said it was insider trading that he was going to squeal on or something? Well, there's all kinds of accusations about UnitedHealth and a group of executives that they all sold like a hundred and some million dollars worth of stock before an event happened. So yes, there were allegations of insider trading.

1:24:28 From my understanding, they were getting investigated about a year ago. And so all the bigwigs knew about it. And they put up, you know, they put because they had they had, you know, because, you know, like when you're up there and stuff, part of your signing bonus or part of your pay are going to be like these stocks that you can that you have. So a lot of these executives have crap loads. Well, these top executives sold all of their shares, knowing that.

1:24:58 They were being investigated. And then it was made public this year. And then he was supposed to, the UnitedHealthcare guy, was supposed to go before Congress or Senator whoever. They were going to do their questioning, I think, next week or something like that. I think it was coming up. And so just coincidentally, he got, you know, done. So they've probably been working with him. I think he was going to become a whistleblower.

1:25:27 Because all of these things, I mean, you know, just like, you know, you guys were saying, either they're blackmailed or they're a part of it or something like that. You know, they leverage for the power, you know, and, you know, each of these people, if you research like all these CEOs and stuff like that, you can honestly see that, you know, they're hired in for whatever.

1:25:47 game is being played for those companies, whether it's to devalue it and raid the retirements, which is huge. You know, with most corporations and stuff, they go after the retirements. I mean, that's what United might have been, but definitely.

1:26:04 US Air, American Airlines and stuff like that. How many times did it go into a bankruptcy? That was raiding the funds, taking the assets out, even if they belong to the people that work for them. So, you know, that's why I'm just saying that there's just so much stuff that's going on. And we know that insurance companies, because of Operation Gladio and the International Syndicate, you know, if something gets destroyed, the insurance company comes in, the adjuster says, oh, you get this much for it. And then they get their money back, you know, so we, I don't know. Okay.

1:26:34 Hey, Colonel, on the insider trading thing, I mean, I took a look at UnitedHealthcare's chart. It doesn't look like anybody lost their life savings on this, at least if they were invested in the stock. Now, if it were an options trade, it could be different. So where I would be leaning right now is probably more towards somebody inside the firm who is also being investigated at the same time. That makes sense.

1:27:00 Yeah, that does make sense. Thank you, Alina. Hey, Colonel, if you would like, I can dive a little bit deeper into some of this on the financial side. I work in the medical tech side of things, like the computers. Okay, hold on just one second and I'll get to you. Go ahead, Tim. Tim? I don't guess Tim has anything. Hey, hello. I can hear you, Tim. Go ahead. Just an observation about the shooter. He had some level of firearms training.

1:27:39 That was a 9mm pistol with a pretty big silencer on it and with subsonic munitions. And I don't know if you've been around a pistol that, you know, even with a silencer, the bullet exceeds the sound barrier. It's still pretty loud. But if you shoot a round that's not loaded full, it's, man, you can't even hear it. The racking of the slide is the loudest part. And if you notice, the first shot he took.

1:28:08 He the gun immediately jammed. And if you trained in a jam situation, it's tap, rack, bang. You hit the bottom of the magazine, rewrite the slide, shoot again. And he instantly did. Yes, he did. I noticed that. And then the second shot, he's he's moved away further. So you really can't see any details. It's blurred. But if I understand the police report, there were there were three casings recovered from the scene. And there were three.

1:28:39 full rounds recovered from the scene. I'm not saying the guy's a pro, but he wasn't a novice either. That's exactly my point. So I rank them basically in the three categories where, number one, you are going to be using a gun that does not jam. If you are going in and you're a CIA top-notch assassin like the Otto Skorzeny-level train,

1:29:03 none of that shit that we saw would have happened and you wouldn't even have been able to even tell what color the guy was. So he's definitely not the top notch, but he is also definitely not the bottom notch because of all of the things you just said, Tim. Thank you very much for adding that. Go ahead, Reaper Kitty. It's MC. I just changed my name. Okay, so...

1:29:32 Whenever we're looking at UnitedHealthcare, you're talking about the one insurance company that holds one of, I mean, literally, they're a part of the government, Medicaid, Medicare, ACA. They also provide healthcare for most of the government, both inside and contracted. So we're talking the nuclear laboratories, ORNL, for instance, Y12.

1:30:01 In certain cases. I also think they work with that now, but that's neither here nor there. And also other laboratories. So whenever we're looking at all of this, UnitedHealthcare had not only hidden fees within their insurance, which is illegal, but they were also not paying.

1:30:28 They were kicking it back and having it sent out to the patient. And in some cases with some states, that's not legal. They also had ties to Nancy Pelosi. That can be traced back through the money trail. And I'm coming from the side of the tech security side of the healthcare systems. The company I personally work for,

1:30:59 We staff all of the ERs and the ICUs with their doctors. So there's a lot of companies that have had to file lawsuits against them, and only very few of them have been successful. So there's a lot of motives that could be behind this. But that guy, he's fishy. Not to mention, wasn't there supposed to be a court hearing today with a whistleblower? Are we sure that this was even the owner of, I mean, the...

1:31:27 the head guy of UnitedHealthcare, and it wasn't whoever this whistleblower was going to be. Does anybody know who this whistleblower was supposed to be? Was he the whistleblower? Well, some people have already surmised that he may have not necessarily been an official whistleblower, but that he was providing basically like state's evidence as part of the charge earlier about insider trading.

1:31:57 Yeah, I know that UnitedHealthcare used to be part of the military retiree health care program. But I also know that for all of the reasons you just mentioned, they actually had Tricare had dropped them because they were so awful. I don't know what the current. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. Yeah, so.

1:32:21 Anyway, yeah, everything. And there's lots of stories out there about how horrendous UnitedHealthcare as an actual insurance company is. So you're absolutely right about that. Benjamin, go ahead. Wow. It sounds like it is what it is. I mean, if this is as far reaching as what it sounds like.

1:32:50 It's a big one, Colonel. I mean, like for me, you got a lot of people tied to a lot of money and then accusations of some really big things, not simple things, you know, and these corporations, you know, I don't know. It's definitely an interesting time, you know, to be alive, see all this happening. That's for sure. I just enjoyed listening to everybody's perspective about it. I agree with you on that one. And let me just say, I just looked up the number because I remember.

1:33:19 We were all given, like we get these monthly retirement bulletins about changes and different things as far as our entitlements go. I just looked up the number. When TRICARE made the decision to drop UnitedHealthcare, it was worth $58 billion with a B. So there could have in fact been another.

1:33:44 Large entity, a municipality or something along those lines that was looking into the fraud, waste and abuse associated with this entity. And that's how the, you know, for example, if if you're one of the people that what we refer to as the International Syndicate.

1:34:14 And there has been an investigation that began a year ago with the insider trading allegations or whatever. And it has snowballed into, hey, these people are going to pull out of this insurance program. And this one guy seems to have a lot of the information and he starts talking. Yeah, he's going to go.

1:34:42 And he's going to go quickly, maybe too quickly to find the professional, but quickly enough to get a semi-professional in to do it. Moneypenny, go ahead. Hi there. Thank you very much for letting me speak. I am fascinated by this because I worked in the healthcare insurance sector for about 15, 20 years in the UK, in London.

1:35:04 And there is a huge amount of nepotism and cartel fixing of premiums and all that stuff that goes on. It's a pretty corrupt area, sadly, and I'm sure it's probably fairly similar in the United States. But in particular, I discovered that one of the most interesting former role that Brian Thompson had was that he was CEO of the United Healthcare Government Programs and Medicare and Retirement Businesses for the federal government.

1:35:32 Now, I wonder how much because there's so much with this. There's obviously all the insider trading. There's all the stuff that you've previously talked about in the last 10, 15 minutes. But his particular work with the federal government and his management of the whole Medicare and 401k, all that stuff on behalf of federal employees does make me question whether or not this is more of a government.

1:35:59 potential embarrassment, getting rid of somebody that could out something rather than the company itself. But then I saw that Andrew Whitty, who is the CEO of United Healthcare at a group level, he was working as the special envoy of the World Health Organization throughout the COVID period, which also is another alarm bell. What do you think? I think you're dead on.

1:36:26 Also, what would be interesting to know is with all of the reshaping of Health and Human Services and the new administration coming in, he would be the person that would know where a lot of the fraud, waste, and abuse is, right?

1:36:49 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. He'll be doged. He'll be jumped on and doged first, I should think. So what better way to make sure that their secrets doesn't come out for the one guy that probably knows the most currently not to be around to talk? Exactly. Exactly. That's the one thing. He had to present some sort of more imminent threat. Correct. For them to expect themselves like that.

1:37:20 Exactly.

1:37:23 It's just the timing that makes me think because we are getting a change of administration, we're getting Republicans going in, we're getting Trump and Kennedy going in at the head of HHS. If there are big federal government secrets and federal documents, whatever it might be, that most of them have probably been in that, you know, that syringing paper mashing thing that was sitting outside the CIA buildings the other week. But, you know, there are bound to be a hell of amount of federal government.

1:37:52 health-related information after a COVID pandemic when we know the NIH, the NIAD, the DOD, DARPA, and the DPRA were all funding the bloody thing? Exactly. So you can expect that with the Affordable Care Act on top of Medicare and Medicaid, that the amount of fraud, waste, and abuse is ginormous.

1:38:21 potentially hundreds of billions of dollars. And if that's about ready to get exposed in order to cover people's tracks, anybody that they suspect is a weak link better have security. That's all I got to say. All right. Anybody else? Yeah, Colonel, if I may. I'm going to jump in with both feet here and maybe other people can.

1:38:53 can sort of discredit what I'm going to say. But as far as a shooter goes, and all the information that's come out, everything that's been discussed here today, yeah, it makes sense. It really does. But I'm going to jump in with both feet and say this guy is never going to get caught. And he wasn't worried about it. And the reason he's never going to get caught is because the American public is looking at him saying,

1:39:23 We got one of the health CEOs that gave us this COVID mess. Leave them alone. I would hate to think that's true, SR71. I think most of us still believe that the justice needs to be the legally sanctioned justice and not a vigilante justice. But I understand the sentiment.

1:39:53 I just hope that's not where we're going. I hope that's not where we're going, but that thought has crossed my mind. Yeah. Okay. Well, so what do we got tomorrow? Tomorrow we have at noon, we're going to start our special series on secret societies, i.e. skull and bones with war hamster. It's going to be on rumble.

1:40:26 But it will be aired over here on Spaces as well. It just isn't going to be a live space like this is. That's going to be at noon tomorrow. And let's see. Then we will have the 4 o'clock normal show. And next week is going to be kind of a barn burner.

1:40:54 I will be on Badlands Media 3 o'clock show with Ash and a few other ladies. And we will not have the show at 4 o'clock because I think that show goes for like an hour and a half. But we also will have The Pond at 8 o'clock. So I probably will not be doing a show on Monday.

1:41:22 Tuesday, we will do the normal four o'clock. Wednesday, the four o'clock and Alpha Warrior Show at 930, continuing the World Anti-Communist League. We will be back on Thursday at noon for the normal War Hamster Weekly Show, continuing our Skull and Bones series. And then on the 13th, I'm very excited about having Isabella.

1:41:51 who is part of a local action with national impact story about Miami that dovetails into Operation Condor that is going to blow your socks off. And tomorrow also on our Friday, let me get back to that. I did not write his name down. I just have the special guest.

1:42:21 Cousin It's still in here. Bridget, do you have his name? I don't see Cousin It. Hugo Turner. Hugo Turner. There you go. And we're waiting for him to confirm. Okay. All right. I'm going to actually put that in here while I'm talking because I forgot to do that twice. Hugo Turner. All right. Good. Okay. Money Penny, go ahead. Sorry, just quickly. A post went out about an hour ago from the Doge, Department of Government Efficiency.

1:42:56 showing what the money the NIH spent in 2023, including US$759 million on workforce diversity and outreach and US$611,000 million on evaluating microaggressions amongst the Latinx individuals with obesity. I forwarded the post to you because it is just a liturgy of complete expenditure.

1:43:26 Well, I don't know. Abuse is the kindest word I could use on it. It's just extremely bizarre. Well, here's money penny. Here's the thing that I that no one does that has to be done. People put out and I please don't take this the wrong way because I'm not saying this about you. People put those things out like you just did. But the real story is.

1:43:53 If you go into a system called the contract management system that actually look at where that money went and to who that money went to. This isn't just $600 million going out in these wacky bullshit programs. These are $600 million going to Chuck Schumer's daughter.

1:44:22 his niece and nephew who owns a psychological study something something studio in Timbuktu. All of this is money laundering. None of that money goes actually where it says it's going. It goes to their constituents, their relatives, and to other congressional

1:44:51 people's family as part of a massive money laundering shifting around. And it makes good sound bites, but I wish someone, and I personally would do it, but I don't have time, would sit down and say, and for every one of those dough things that comes out like that, because I've said it several times, stop doing this shit. This is money laundering.

1:45:21 And if you're not going to go to the second step, you just did a first step. If you're not going to go to the second step and tell us who got that money, I want to know who got that money. I want to know where they're at. I want to know what city they're in, what jurisdiction they're in, who's their congressional members. How are they related to someone? And I wish someone would do that. It is outrageous, as you just pointed out, and it is.

1:45:47 That money was allocated by a fucking member of Congress. But to me, the more outrageous part of it is where the money actually ended up. Because I think if we actually did that research as a project, it would blow up everything.

1:46:09 Not that we're... Totally agree. I totally agree. Do you know, if I was American and I knew how to get into all those systems in the American government, I would do it. I do it in the British government. 43 billion went through nepotistic connections that were spent through our health services. Most of it went to friends of friends of family of friends who, you know, all the way through COVID. And you're absolutely right. And I do it from the UK. I have to learn how to do it to the US from you or somebody else.

1:46:37 Yeah, and I know you have, and I knew you would understand what I was trying to say. There are lots of Americans that should give a crap and do that research because it's imperative that those tracks be made if there's ever going to be any accountability. Because I think that's the most outrageous part. Not that studying people's sex habits or monkey sex habits or, you know, whatever isn't outrageous.

1:47:04 But I do think what's really outrageous is where that money eventually ends up. But yes, thank you. Now that you got my blood pressure going. Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. I had my checkup today. My cleation detox, metal detox has been working wonderfully.

1:47:32 Thyroid numbers in half. I mean, everything is working out well. My blood pressure is so low. She was actually concerned it was going to be too low. So I'm all good to go. I'm just teasing you. But anyway, thank you guys all for being here. Again, we will be back tomorrow at noon with Warhamster. And then again at four o'clock. So God bless. Have a nice evening. See you tomorrow.

Entities here

CIA28 Assassination of Brian Thompson25 Brian Thompson24 Ted Shackley20 Edwin Wilson20 Tom Clines19 UnitedHealth Group14 FBI13 Robert Keith Gray8 World Anti-Communist League6 Larry Barcella6 Jimmy Carter6 Richard Secord5 Vigari5 Erik Prince5 Safari Club5 Hill and Knowlton5 Chi Chi Quintero5 Ronald Reagan4 EATSCO4 George H.W. Bush4 Tunson Park4 Medicare4 China Lobby3 Georgetown Club3 Mafia3 International Research and Trade3 Dwight D. Eisenhower3 Richard Viguerie3 Burt Lance2 Koreagate scandal2 Operation Gladio2 Donald Trump2 Vargelio Pablo Paz Suarez2 Camp David Accords2 TRICARE2 Medicaid2 William Casey2 Department of Health and Human Services2 Affordable Care Act2

Claims made here

CIA covered_up Edwin Wilson host_asserted ▶ 2:30

“Burt Lance was compromised because of the CIA's BCCI bank. So Billy was compromised because of the CIA setting him up over in Libya with Wilson. So basically, you have the CIA taking down a president …”

CIA funded Safari Club book_quoted ▶ 6:26

“Powerful conservative Christian activists had intelligence connections through ministries and mining interests in Africa and Asia. Literally unlimited funds in hundreds of millions of dollars in Saudi…”

Safari Club funded Ronald Reagan book_quoted ▶ 6:55

“What would soon become Reagan and Bush's campaign relied on the Safari Club for support as well. His support mainly came from reborn private intelligence community, conservative religious base, dubbed…”

Ted Shackley trained Ronald Reagan book_quoted ▶ 7:23

“Ted Shackley, who had perfected the use of political organizations like labor unions, PR firms, publishers to carry out intelligence operations overseas, were now affiliated with a political campaign …”

Edwin Wilson funded International Research and Trade book_quoted ▶ 7:55

“for the Reagan and Bush campaign. The hidden link between Reagan and Bush campaign and the private network was the businesses that Wilson had financed, like International Research and Trade, IRT. Clin…”

Tom Clines front_for International Research and Trade book_quoted ▶ 7:55

Tom Clines front_for EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 7:55

Tom Clines founded EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 8:25

“the Egyptian American Transport and Services Corporation, ETSCO. Egyptian American Transport and Services Corporation, ETSCO. It was established by Klein to cut Wilson's around-the-world shipping out …”

Richard Viguerie member_of China Lobby book_quoted ▶ 11:25

“also was a key player in the China lobby, i.e. Taiwan. He had vehemently opposed the U.S. recognition of mainland China. Vigari was also a member of the Georgetown Club, which is another like safari c…”

Richard Viguerie member_of Georgetown Club book_quoted ▶ 11:25

Robert Keith Gray member_of Georgetown Club book_quoted ▶ 12:26

“The Georgetown Club was started by the Tunson Park Korean intelligence guy who we met because he was instrumental in setting up the World Anti-Communist League as well. And the Georgetown Club also ho…”

Robert Keith Gray member_of Hill and Knowlton book_quoted ▶ 12:56

“And Robert Gray was the PR guy that worked at Hill and Knowlton that opened up the prostitute club in downtown D.C. that they used because it was wired to compromise congressmen. So just to give you a…”

Edwin Wilson appointed Robert Keith Gray book_quoted ▶ 15:00

“politicians that he had cultivated a working relationship with. Now, isn't that weird that supposedly only Republicans, and I mean, this is back in the day when that was not necessarily acceptable beh…”

Ted Shackley recruited Robert Keith Gray book_quoted ▶ 15:28

“used to run spies. Gray, according to Wilson, was already in possession of security clearances to work in the government. Shackley had first gotten to know Gray through Anna Chenault. And Anna Chenaul…”

Tunson Park member_of Unification Church book_quoted ▶ 15:59

“supporting Taiwan at the expense of mainland China. Anna Chenault, as part of the China lobby, was very good friends with Tunstin Park, the Korean intelligence operative, who was also affiliated with …”

Anne Chenault member_of China Lobby book_quoted ▶ 15:59

Tunson Park member_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 15:59

Manuel Noriega member_of Safari Club book_quoted ▶ 16:30

“scandal involving Rice, which was nicknamed Koreagate, and it involved bribing people's members of Congress back in the 1970s. But it would be Park's later involvement with Manuel Noriega and other Ja…”

Tunson Park involved_in Koreagate scandal book_quoted ▶ 16:30

Tom Clines member_of EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 18:32

“Hill and Knowlton, Robert Gray, the whole nine yards. During Koreagate, Vigari had been involved with Park and the Korean CIA, KCIA. Vigari was paid nearly a million dollars for a direct mail campaign…”

Richard Viguerie involved_in Koreagate scandal book_quoted ▶ 18:32

Don Lowers member_of EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 19:02

“which was also located at 7777 Leesburg Pike as a tenant of Bakari's. So you already have Bakari and his Bakari company. Now we have Itzko at that same location, and both of them are CIA operations. M…”

Ted Shackley spied_on FBI book_quoted ▶ 20:34

“organizations all over the world, to include the church. Throughout the 1980s presidential campaign, the FBI continued to investigate Wilson. Shackley was a cooperating source of information. I bet he…”

FBI spied_on Edwin Wilson book_quoted ▶ 20:34

Ted Shackley member_of EATSCO book_quoted ▶ 22:23

“Shackley was able to structure his own retirement in 1980 so that it appeared that he had gone to work for Klein's in Ed Wilson's old company. This gave Shackley deniability when the FBI asked him abo…”

Tom Clines funded Arcadia Limited documented ▶ 24:20

“He was aware that Tom Clines got a loan for a company called Arcadia Limited and that Ed Wilson assisted Clines in getting the loan. He did not know who the principals were, according to him. And he s…”

Edwin Wilson funded Tom Clines documented ▶ 25:47

“He said that if all of these companies did well, he expected to be compensated accordingly. However, there was no formula that does, quote unquote, 20 percent, unquote. Shackley confirmed to the Burea…”

Edwin Wilson paid Tom Clines book_quoted ▶ 27:41

“He goes on to say, Tom, I want that $500,000 and I'm going to start screaming. So they paid the $500,000. They paid about $450,000 and then I sort of let it go. Then I found out through my other sourc…”

CIA ordered_assassination_of Edwin Wilson book_quoted ▶ 28:10

“They literally fenced up the press, tried to get me killed down there. They really did. So he had an assassination attempt put out on him. So they really, really didn't want to pay it back. Wilson was…”

Larry Barcella ordered_assassination_of Edwin Wilson book_quoted ▶ 29:08

“also put out a story that he was cheating the Libyans in his business deals with them. For the first time, Wilson now realizes what's going on. Ignoring the fact that Itzko getting the shipping contra…”

Edwin Wilson paid Chi Chi Quintero book_quoted ▶ 30:59

“Wilson put Quintero on his payroll and spent over $100,000 on the search for Dianezo Suarez and Vargelio Pablo Paz Suarez, whom Varsala actually had had in custody at one time, had been allowed to be …”

Chi Chi Quintero member_of United States Intelligence Agency documented ▶ 31:56

“because they were working for the CIA. Wilson continued, quote, Quintero was working for Army Intelligence at the time, so all the time I'm sending him this information, it's going to Army Intelligenc…”

Chi Chi Quintero spied_on Edwin Wilson documented ▶ 31:56

United States Intelligence Agency spied_on Tom Clines documented ▶ 32:23

“and for the Army intelligence, but also that he was reporting to his Army intelligence, hold on, reporting to his Army intelligence control everything that he was told by Wilson. That material, in tur…”

United States Intelligence Agency spied_on Ted Shackley documented ▶ 32:23

CIA installed Augusto Pinochet book_quoted ▶ 32:54

“intelligence control officer. That meant that Klein and Shackley were fully aware of everything that Varsala was doing in his investigation of Pinochet down in Chile, the dictator that they had all in…”

Edwin Wilson recruited Bobby Barnes book_quoted ▶ 33:52

“I took Bobby Barnes over there with me. I had a beautiful villa. It was a pleasant interlude to get out of Libya. However, the PLO guy was an idiot. And one day I went back to Libya and I was arrested…”

Brian Thompson assassinated Assassination of Brian Thompson host_asserted ▶ 1:15:27

“And one thing that you brought up last night on Alpha Warrior and Alpha Warrior brought up that I just wanted to have you reiterate about one of the things you guys noticed about the UnitedHealthcare …”

Operation Gladio funded Mafia host_asserted ▶ 1:26:04

“US Air, American Airlines and stuff like that. How many times did it go into a bankruptcy? That was raiding the funds, taking the assets out, even if they belong to the people that work for them. So, …”

UnitedHealth Group member_of Medicare host_asserted ▶ 1:29:32

“Whenever we're looking at UnitedHealthcare, you're talking about the one insurance company that holds one of, I mean, literally, they're a part of the government, Medicaid, Medicare, ACA. They also pr…”

UnitedHealth Group member_of Medicaid host_asserted ▶ 1:29:32

UnitedHealth Group member_of Affordable Care Act host_asserted ▶ 1:29:32

UnitedHealth Group funded Oak Ridge National Laboratory host_asserted ▶ 1:29:32

UnitedHealth Group funded Nancy Pelosi host_asserted ▶ 1:30:28

“They were kicking it back and having it sent out to the patient. And in some cases with some states, that's not legal. They also had ties to Nancy Pelosi. That can be traced back through the money tra…”

TRICARE removed_from_power UnitedHealth Group host_asserted ▶ 1:31:57

“Yeah, I know that UnitedHealthcare used to be part of the military retiree health care program. But I also know that for all of the reasons you just mentioned, they actually had Tricare had dropped th…”

Brian Thompson headed UnitedHealth Group host_asserted ▶ 1:35:04

“And there is a huge amount of nepotism and cartel fixing of premiums and all that stuff that goes on. It's a pretty corrupt area, sadly, and I'm sure it's probably fairly similar in the United States.…”

Andrew Witty member_of World Health Organization host_asserted ▶ 1:35:59

“potential embarrassment, getting rid of somebody that could out something rather than the company itself. But then I saw that Andrew Whitty, who is the CEO of United Healthcare at a group level, he wa…”

Andrew Witty headed UnitedHealth Group host_asserted ▶ 1:35:59

Robert F. Kennedy appointed Department of Health and Human Services host_asserted ▶ 1:37:23

“It's just the timing that makes me think because we are getting a change of administration, we're getting Republicans going in, we're getting Trump and Kennedy going in at the head of HHS. If there ar…”

Donald Trump appointed Department of Health and Human Services host_asserted ▶ 1:37:23

DARPA funded COVID-19 pandemic host_asserted ▶ 1:37:52

“health-related information after a COVID pandemic when we know the NIH, the NIAD, the DOD, DARPA, and the DPRA were all funding the bloody thing? Exactly. So you can expect that with the Affordable Ca…”

National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases funded COVID-19 pandemic host_asserted ▶ 1:37:52