Operation Gladio- Prelude to Terror Chap 6

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0:00 Hello, everyone. Welcome to today's program. I am going to make a couple of comments as we get started here. If you guys would share out the space, I'd appreciate it. And then we'll present the material and then open it up for comments.

0:34 getting ready to start, that there has been a New York Times expose that supposedly they gained information about the Matt Gaetz investigation that was not pursued by the DOJ because there's nothing there. But somehow the New York Times received quote-unquote leaked information. And of course you find it interesting that

1:05 The only leaked information, just like the only votes that get counted after election day, all go in one direction. They never go in the other direction. And so anyone that sees a post about this leaked information, I want you guys to respond to it saying that there was no leaked.

1:33 information to the New York Times that the Department of Justice is trying to sabotage Matt Gaetz. And please tag him in it so that he knows that we have his back. Okay. Having said that, we're going to get started with where we left off.

2:06 I don't know if Bridget dropped out. Oh, please add SR-71. All right. All right. Let me find him. All right. There we go. Okay. So in Chapter 6, as I mentioned yesterday, we're going to talk quite a bit about Edwin Wilson. He is one of my all-time favorites that we have found in Operation Gladio.

2:39 For many reasons. But let's find out what these CIA agents that gave their information to Joseph Trento, the author of Prelude to Terror, actually has to say about Edwin Wilson. And then we'll talk a little bit about the real story. The author starts out with the Directorate of Operations within the CIA.

3:10 Mentioning Henry Kissinger, who was Richard Nixon's national security advisor, had grown into a nightmare, meaning Kissinger was the nightmare, and that he had ordered the CIA to change estimates on Soviet strategic strength in order to perpetuate the communist, anti-communist dialogue that fed into Operation Gladio.

3:41 I added that last part. And basically he had refused to participate in any debriefing from CIA experts over the Soviet issue at all. So he was a one way information out, no information in, which when it comes to CIA information, probably not a great loss. And that.

4:11 According to these CIA agents, they distrusted Kissinger because of that. So it says, unlike many of his colleagues, CIA Director Richard Helms had never been comfortable with the kind of covert operations Kissinger liked to run out of the National Security Office. Helms had attempted to keep the CIA out of domestic spying, which is not true, and to limit the agency's role in Chile.

4:42 which again is not true. But Kissinger, with Ted Shackley's help, had recruited the Pentagon to help carry out the overthrow of Allende. And again, pay attention to the CIA deflecting their activity onto others. The thrust here. So the CIA was not the only federal agency worried about Kissinger.

5:15 The White House plumbers discovered that the Naval Operations Chief, Admiral Moorer, M-O-O-R-E-R, was worried about Kissinger, so worried about him that he had sent a Navy yeoman named Charles Radford over to Kissinger's office to spy on him. And that is, in fact, true. But this is the same Navy that was running Task Force 1572, their own independent.

5:46 intelligence operation that was posing as civilian companies. Radford later admitted to stealing more than 5,000 documents from Kissinger's office and passing them back to the chief of naval operations. The main reason Moore was spying on Kissinger was that Nixon's White House had selected a secret Navy task force called 157 operating in suburban Virginia.

6:15 to handle communications between Kissinger and the Communist China. Moore had not been made privy to any of these Task Force 157 communications. Shackley and Clines also wanted to know more about 157. Normally, the CIA and the National Security Agency, NSA, along with the Army Signal Corps, took care of these matters.

6:44 For years, the CIA had been able to tap into and report anything sensitive on the so-called Roger channel used by ambassadors for what they thought was private conversations with the CIA. The idea that someone who had as much control over the CIA's destiny as Kissinger could keep his communications secret

7:13 basically threw the CIA for a loop. For Edwin Wilson, the security breach that ended his CIA career freed him to become a millionaire. He actually was already a millionaire by this time because he was actually a CIA agent and he was keeping the proceeds of his company's profits. Like anyone else on the CIA payroll,

7:40 He had been required to gather up all of his ledgers each month and take them to a contract auditor. He dared not try to cheat the agency on his business profits because he could be given a surprise polygraph at any time. He was only permitted to keep the salary. That is not true, guys. We have illustrated through people like William Pauly and all of these, the civil air.

8:09 CAT, the Air America, all of these companies had civilians as CEOs, and they all were multimillionaires because the whole idea was for them to live as if they were multimillionaires. You cannot have a civilian cover story without living the life.

8:35 After Wilson officially left the CIA in 1971, he remained available to his friends in the Pentagon and CIA. So they want you to believe that he was no longer, he's a quote-unquote former CIA agent. What they gave him in return was continued official status as an unregistered business asset. Wilson was once again on the government payroll, but this time there was much less oversight.

9:04 He became very valuable to the CIA because he was available for operations and because he was not financially dependent on the agency. That's the whole purpose. For Shackley and Clines, he would become the key element in creating a private intelligence network, which we refer to as the Enterprise. Shackley and Clines agreed that Wilson was perfect to penetrate Task Force 157. Clines arranged with William Holcomb.

9:33 H-O-K-U-M, a CIA security official who had gone to work for Naval Intelligence. So the CIA has infiltrated the Navy to make Wilson the corporate front for 157. Wilson is another CIA agent infiltrating the Navy. Hocum, an old friend and U2 colleague of Wilson's, assured him that he would have no difficulty penetrating.

10:04 Task Force 157's secrets. And keep in mind, Task Force 157 wanted to create a front company so they could use that company to go around the world and basically draw up schematics of all of the ports all over the world so that they would have an accurate accounting of like how deep the water was, what could it be used for.

10:32 The whole purpose of Task Force 157 was to set up a civilian shipping company that was basically operating as a shipping company for cover. And those people inside of Task Force 157 on the payroll of this company was traveling all over the world with the survey people to get information on all of the ports.

11:00 That was the whole purpose of Task Force 157. This time, Wilson was hired as a GF-13, but that did not matter. He was raking in the money as this front company that he had set up. He had grown up and become a CIA's most valuable intelligence asset, even though he was no longer officially employed by the agency.

11:27 Wilson was appalled at the thin cover the Navy used for Task Force 157 and the fact that it was running scores of spying operations out of three related checking accounts. You make one of these accounts and all of the operations are compromised, Wilson said. Wilson kept Consultants International, which was his own company, Consultants International. But he quickly set up another company called World Marine. That company.

12:00 was the company that he used as his Task Force 157 front. As he had done with the CIA, Wilson turned over the blank stock certificates to the Navy and began doing business on its behalf. While he was also reporting to the CIA, Tom Clines did not wait long after Task Force 157's operation to ask Wilson for another favor, to find work for the man.

12:32 Chichi Quintero. Chichi Quintero, Q-U-I-N-T-E-R-O. Wilson hired Quintero for the Navy at a $600 a month retainer. And this is a quote from Quintero. I had run operations in South America and Mexico. And then Wilson goes on to say that he had been on those operations with Quintero.

13:05 and offered the Navy access to Cuba through Quintero. They were delighted. After three or four weeks, we had a man reporting from Havana Harbor on what was going on and who was doing it. Wilson reactivated another one of his agents from the 1960s, Ricardo Chavez, who had worked with Wilson on the coup in the Congo, meaning Lumumba. These are the people that murdered Lumumba. Chavez

13:37 now had little interest in risking his own life in a combat situation. As Wilson explained, Chavez didn't want to go to any more Congo assignments. He now had a wife and a kid. Instead, Wilson used him for one of his most successful operations, and that was penetrating the Mexican political hierarchy. As Wilson put it, Chavez's wife's family was very well connected.

14:06 also had contact with the president of Mexico through her family. We recruited top people in what was referred to as PEMEX, and we've talked about PEMEX before, P-E-M-E-X. They gave us access to Cubans who visited Mexico often. We operated right out of the president's office and home. So this is the CIA telling you.

14:38 that they basically own the Mexican president and they're conducting operations out of the Mexican president's version of the White House, where he actually lives. The information Chavez collected dovetailed into the information Quintero was collecting from Cuba. Quintero's reports went not to Wilson, but to a special post office box for the Navy.

15:04 Once I set up operations, the Navy was still afraid I might hand all the information directly to the CIA and not them. So they were trying to compartmentalize the operation, Wilson said. The Navy's fears were well-founded, but the idea that a post office box could keep the CIA from getting a hold of material was naive. Quintero was loyal to Wilson, but he was also devoted to Klein, who had...

15:34 basically developed his entire career. Thanks to Quintero, Clines, and Shackley, they were dining out on Wilson's and the Navy's efforts, giving Wilson little or no credit. In 1973, Clines also brought Cuban exile Felix Rodriguez to Wilson's office. Rodriguez was back from Vietnam and had become so well-known in the agency

16:04 that he now feared for his security. Wilson had not heard great reports about Rodriguez from Quintero. Quintero had worked with Felix Rodriguez on both Operation Mongoose and on the Phoenix program in Vietnam, but he still thought Tom Clines was his best friend, and he had to do favors for him to keep up the good relationship with the CIA.

16:35 If Wilson had a weakness, it was a desire to be accepted by everyone. I wasn't one of the good old boys. I thought these guys could make me part of their world, Wilson said. Some months later, Wilson arranged for Rodriguez to meet the legendary Starkist Skolhanalian. And I'm going to spell his name. His first name is S-A-R-K-I-S. His last name is S-O-G-H-A-N-A-L.

17:05 He was a Turkish-born Armenian arms dealer from one of the best-connected Christian families in Lebanon. Back when Wilson worked with Air America, he had sold Slohani Island, his first Boeing 707 cargo plane, to haul arms for the CIA back to the Christian militia in Beirut.

17:35 said he attempted to recruit the SOG guy, that's how he pronounced his last name, for the CIA, but was told to keep his hands off the DIA, which at that point was also running him as an informant. Wilson said, again, they love dragging in the Defense Department, whether or not that's true. Wilson said he introduced Rodriguez to...

18:06 this arms dealer, as Klein requested, because he knew that the arms dealer was looking for an experienced man to train the Christian militia. But the arms dealer tells a darker story about what Wilson told him to do with Rodriguez. This is a quote from the arms dealer. Wilson told me to take him there to Lebanon and don't bring him back to get rid of him.

18:35 Rodriguez was a big mouth, unquote. Whatever Wilson's intention concerning Rodriguez, the arms dealer learned that he was right about a big mouth. The arms dealer took Rodriguez to a training base for Belgium mercenaries. He started talking, saying that he was a CIA agent. You can't do that. He drinks and cries and says he wants his girlfriend. As the arms dealer put it, Rodriguez.

19:05 like most Cubans who work for the CIA, talk too much. Now, I'm going to pause for just a second because this is a reoccurring theme. When the Cuban exiles was used in many of these Operation Gladio endeavors, both in the Congo and Angola and in South America, this is a common refrain that they drank too much and then would run their mouth. But what I find very interesting,

19:35 is that in 1973, this is about 1973. So this is after they've set up the Nugent Hand Bank, they've set up BCCI, and the drugs have now all been consolidated down to the CIA. We've got rid of the Corsican Mafia. So the drug network is up and running.

20:04 The fact that it says that they took Rodriguez to a training base for Belgium mercenaries. I want you guys to pause just for a second because Belgium mercenaries were being trained in the Katanga area of the Congo. Because you remember that the Congo was the former Belgium colony and they created the largest.

20:33 NATO base ever set up around all of the mining efforts in the Katanga area and basically succeeded from the Congo back in 1961. And that's when Lumumba was murdered, blah, blah, blah. And so there's another training base that they used primarily for Southern Europe training.

21:01 for the mercenary paramilitary, Gladio, and that was along the Spanish border with France as well. So I'm not sure which one they used here, but both of those are possibilities. Wilson denies that he instructed the arms dealer to get rid of Rodriguez, but both Wilson and the arms dealer agreed that Rodriguez was put on the arms dealer payroll, which was funded by DIA at a time.

21:31 when Rodriguez was already being paid by the CIA. Wilson said he told Rodriguez that if any arms sales opportunities arose, he would work with and protect him from the arms dealer, who had a reputation as being a very smart, tough businessman. Rodriguez did not take Wilson's offer. Instead, he took the arms dealer to Miami and introduced him to an arms dealer there.

22:02 and made key contacts directly outside of Wilson. A few months later, the arms dealer took Rodriguez off his payroll because he couldn't keep his mouth shut. In his duties for the Task Force 157, Wilson kept in touch with Richard Secord and Erich von Marbog. Secord then was in charge of all military aid to Iran, held the rank of ambassador,

22:31 In addition to general, Von Marbog was deputy director at the Defense Security Assistance Agency, which basically dealt with all foreign military aid. So you guys are familiar with USAID, which gives away the U.S. aid to foreign governments on behalf of the State Department. Well, the military has a very similar system set up.

22:59 that is ran by the Defense Security Assistance Agency for foreign military aid. So, Wilson did not provide assistance to these men out of the goodness of his heart. These high-level contacts impressed the management of Task Force 157, which had very limited resources, because all they were supposed to be doing was mapping harbors. The fact that Wilson could, in turn, ask the Cord and Von Marbog for assistance from time to time,

23:30 Seemed to Task Force 157 management to outweigh any concerns about him sharing information with the CIA and Pentagon. Secord had done so well in Vietnam and Laos that he had been sent back to the U.S. for advanced training. With Wilson's help on Capitol Hill, Secord had his first star at the age of 43 from his friendship with Marbog.

23:56 he had learned that procurement was the source of real power in the military. And so procurement in this sense means basically like the contracting, logistics, and that type of thing. Wilson used his relationship with von Marburg and Secord in 1974 when he was assigned to dispatch a small spy ship to the waters off of Iran to monitor.

24:26 The Soviet Navy. At that time. Hold on just a second, guys. Okay. My daughter's here with the grandbaby and her husband trying to call and she left her phone at home. So she has to go use John's phone so I can continue the show. Wilson used his relationship with von Marburg and Secord in 1974 when he assigned to.

25:11 He was assigned to dispatch a small spy ship to the waters off of Iran to spy on the Soviet Navy. At that time, von Marbach was head of the Defense Department Purchasing Office in Iran, with a rank equal to that of Ambassador Richard Helms. In 1975, Secord was made head of a powerful 1,000-man Air Force military assistance group in Iran.

25:40 Now, the military assistance group is like those mags that started the Phoenix program in Vietnam, just FYI. This is at the same time that we're going to find Major General Norman Schwarzkopf, our Schwarzkopf from Desert Storm's dad, over in Iran as well, setting up the Stavak, which is their national police, which is the one that went around terrorizing everybody. So between Stakord and von Marburg,

26:10 They managed billions in military sales to the Shah's government. According to Wilson, one reason von Marburg was sent to Iran was that the Shah had fallen about a billion dollars behind in his payments for military hardware and that the U.S. wanted its investment protected. Now, let me also say, we're still in the 70s, and what's interesting about this is in 1980 and beyond,

26:39 Almost that entire decade of the 80s, Iran, with all of our weaponry that we sell it, goes to war with Iraq, who has a president that we installed as the CIA in a coup. And we begin supplying Iraq for the entire decade with its weapons. So we've literally funded both sides of that war.

27:12 While Wilson was working on his spy project, he was introduced through von Marbog and Secord to General Nematola Nasari, the head of the SAVAK, the Shah's murderous and brutal secret police, who asked Wilson if he could provide more up-to-date and efficient methods of torture. And again, the SAVAK was created by General Schwarzkopf's dad.

27:43 When Savak found out that Wilson was a friend of these people, von Marburg and Secord, they were all over me to help them furnish material for torture. And keep in mind, these guys are experts at this because they were all in Vietnam doing this exact same thing. And they also were trained by the same people that were sent to Latin America to do this all over Latin America.

28:11 The Savak took Wilson on raids of conservative Muslim mosques and safe houses. He saw a purview of what the U.S. intelligence would be facing over the next century. On one occasion, Wilson saw nine people machine gunned to death by the Savak agents. They never took any prisoners. Everyone was killed. It was clear to me that they had problems. Wilson, at the behest of

28:36 Clines and Shackley, Von Marbog, and Secord agreed to help the secret police because Wilson wanted to keep Savak happy. They made it easy for him to do business in Iran. He assisted the Savak, the Shah's torturers, from 1974 to 1977. Well, they're not torturers. They're actually killers, assassins. If they don't torture anybody, they kill them all.

29:02 He taught the Savak how to intercept opposition radio communications and how to use surveillance equipment. As the trust built between Wilson and the Savak, he flew back and forth to the U.S. to report on his activities to Shackley and Klein over lunch or during a quiet weekend at Wilson's huge Mount Airy farm in Virginia, Hunt Country, near the town of Upperville.

29:28 It soon became clear that Wilson's perceptions of the situation in Iran directly contradicted those of Ambassador Helms. In other words, they're lying. Although Nixon had fired Helms from the CIA, he had appointed him ambassador of Iran because Helms was friends with the Shah from prep school days and fancied himself an expert on Iran. Helms told the White House and State Department that the Shah could handle the dissidents.

29:58 who, to be politically correct, during the Cold War were loosely labeled communists. No kidding. See, they use that label to all of these people that they want to handle a certain way. Because Helms had run the CIA, it was assumed that his professional expertise would overcome his professional bias. And again, this is horseshit.

30:28 Anybody, regardless of whether they were quote unquote fired from the CIA, is still going to be in bed with the CIA because the loyalties of those people go both ways, even if the president is dissatisfied with them. And we saw that just recently with Gina Haspel. Wilson believed that he was giving.

30:56 being given credit for all of the information that he was providing to Shackley and Klein. But eventually, Klein's admitted that all of the information that Wilson had sent back and had been expunged from his file was provided by a guy by the name of Bob Ritchie. So in other words, they are crediting a guy.

31:25 With all of this information and not Wilson himself. And Bob Ritchie is the name of the guy who trained the Watergate burglars. So that's very interesting. Hold on just a second. All right. Sorry about that. In the mid 1970s, Wilson moved his offices from their K Street location to a much larger townhouse.

32:13 in the West End section of Washington, D.C., and to accommodate his growing business. Wilson began offering scores of retired generals, admirals, and other military officers support and backing in exchange for half of the profits that they could generate. He never told them that their real role was to acquire intelligence for him to parcel out to Clines and Shackley and the Task Force 157. The market-making part of the program,

32:47 was mostly a washout. Wilson found that while many of these men had great contacts in a number of countries, they could not bring themselves to ask for business or close a deal. Most of the military were useless for sales purposes, but excellent at collecting intelligence. Wilson's old colleagues at the CIA saw him as a man who could supply high-quality intelligence and who was

33:18 a genius at making money, something very tantalizing to career public service who operate as fabulously wealthy businessmen or dictators. Wilson's real estate investments had paid off, and on paper, he was worth millions. His Mount Airy farm created the illusion that he was a carefree multimillionaire. In reality, he was cash poor. He could barely keep the place going.

33:46 But his opulent lifestyle attracted the attention of his old friends from Vietnam. Number one on that list was Tom Clines. So, again, Tom Clines is part of the CIA. They know exactly what's going on. And these CIA agents are trying to distance themselves from Wilson. And you'll find out why.

34:12 in a future chapter and what they do to him because it's crazy. It was during this same period that Shackley and his wife began socializing with the Wilsons like a lot. Although Wilson had been a low-level CIA employee, not the kind of person with whom someone like Shackley would have normally associated because Wilson isn't not in the CIA.

34:37 But Wilson's beautiful mansion and farm attracted very powerful people to include a lot of congresspeople. Wilson also provided a convenient front for Shackley and Clines to hide operatives and run operations without consulting their superiors at the headquarters. Wilson had, after all, proved himself to be more than trustworthy. But it is still hard to fathom why Shackley

35:05 who was on a career path leading straight to the director's office, would spend so much time with Wilson. Unless you understand what's really going on and these guys are pretending like they don't know, which is, again, laughable. They weren't spending so much time with Wilson because Wilson at the time was, if you can imagine the political version of Air America.

35:33 That's basically what Wilson was. Wilson had the ability, based on his cover, to be deep inside of the military and deep inside of CIA operations at the same time. That's very rare. He also, because of his international arms dealing, was intimately familiar with the weapons trafficking portion of the CIA's mission, just like...

36:02 The Shackley and Klein were intimately involved in the drug side of our wagon wheel. Wilson was the person that they used for drug or excuse me, for arms trafficking. And in that respect, even though he was not a high placed person within the CIA structure, he was certainly a high placed person within the.

36:31 working relationship of the CIA. And that becomes obvious as we continue. But we're going to stop there for now. And I wanted to go, just before we open it up, let me go back here for just a second. And there's a couple of comments that

37:04 Let's see. Let me find them. Oh, I wanted to comment on obviously the missile strike into Russia and the supposedly the Biden administration authorizing this. So let me just on the record say this. Ukraine has not been an independent country since 2014. They are a satellite.

37:36 of the CIA and NATO and all of the rest of the intelligence agencies, Mossad, MI6, Germany, BND, all of those. They do not function as a country and they are not in control of anything that is actually being done inside of Ukraine. That's just period, full stop. That entire thing has been controlled by the international syndicate and

38:05 The intelligence agencies that prop them up under the strategy of tension for regime change in Russia. That's just there's no way you can even argue anything different. And because technically they don't even have a functioning country as far as a president goes right now. That guy was not elected and the expiration of his term has expired. So they have a pretend.

38:35 president they have no military it is 100 being propped up by nato they have no intelligence capability it is 100 being run by foreign intelligence services to include the cia and so basically you could accurately say nato launched a missile attack on russia there's no other way to look at that so um

39:03 Just let that marinate a little bit. OK, we can open up the mics if anybody wants to request one. If anybody has any. Go ahead, SR71. Thank you, Colonel. You opened up exactly what I was thinking about concerning NATO and what's going on in Ukraine. And I'm sitting here wondering, how long do you think Brussels is going to survive? How long? Who's going to survive?

39:38 Brussels, the headquarters of NATO. Oh. Wouldn't you think Putin might have that targeted? I hope not, only because there's a lot of military people there that has no clue what's going on. But yes, if there was going to be a request for target analysis, NATO headquarters would be the number one target, 100%. Let me go ahead.

40:14 Yeah, I wanted to bring it back to that Task Force 157, if that was right. And and it's like it's a cover name wasn't wasn't that responsible for like or leading up to the church. What's it called? The church church committee. Yeah. And all of those different regulations which came in afterwards.

40:40 I don't know. Like, I've been researching that because I think that's kind of what's needed right now. Again, you know what I mean? Well, technically, what's needed is for us to get rid of the CIA and the Task Force 157. If the only thing that it was meant to do was to map out foreign harbors for the Navy, I mean, it would be a great.

41:11 undercover DIA operation, because especially when going into hostile ports. So let me just give you a scenario. If you're a war planner for CENTCOM and you have on the drawing board plans that would require you, and for every country in the theater of a combatant commander, you have a scenario.

41:41 that you write plans for that require you to go into that country. And so you are going to need to know what all ports of entry are in a foreign country in order to know whether they're deep enough for, you know, XYZ ships, right? So having a fake company that looks like a Marine

42:10 maritime company that sits out, you know, in downtown Washington, D.C. and actually working behind the scenes are all of these people that are going around the world mapping out all of these harbors. That's actually a great way of, and then when they get back and they have all of the harbors of like Yemen and Oman and all of them done, they ship them off to the combatant commander for us to put on, like when I was at CENTCOM.

42:38 In the plans area, you have this entire library of information on every country. So when you're war planning and you're developing an off-the-shelf kind of operation, which we have to have ready, and then we just tailor the ready-made plans to a particular situation that may pop up, like when the coal got bombed. So you already need to know all of the information if you have to go in.

43:08 And so again, Task Force 157 was actually brilliant. The problem is the CIA sabotaged it by putting one of their agents in charge of it. And the best of the research that I have found is no one in the Navy knew at the time that Edwin Wilson was actually a CIA agent. Does that make sense?

43:36 No, definitely makes sense. And, um, and yeah, um, I think there was these three laws which came into effect just after that from the committee, uh, which, uh, kind of like were meant to like limit, uh, like, uh, and like, like reduce the power of the CIA and various other, you know, organizations, but like, they've been totally bypassed now, essentially. Yes. Yes. So, um, yeah, I mean, it, it was a great idea.

44:05 But like most of the great ideas in the military, they get infiltrated by the CIA and completely hijacked. And then that's why I find it funny reading this book is you have the CIA blaming the military for things that get messed up when, in fact, it's exactly the opposite. So and not that I'm trying to take up for the.

44:34 because obviously General Secord and many of the military are absolutely implicated in so much of this. But in an objective way, they are fencing off portions of their responsibility, shoving it off on the military, when in fact there's like 20 different sources.

45:02 that all indicate that what was done in some of these instances were 100% CIA operations. I just think that's interesting. Todd, go ahead. Hello, Colonel. This is kind of a two-part question, really. First of all, do you think that it's possible that what we're witnessing on the world stage is basically a play or a drama where the cabal is just orchestrating this?

45:33 And if so, or even if not, how does this play out and how does it relate to the Deagle numbers? The what? You kind of cut out there. Sorry. Are you familiar with the Deagle numbers? No. Okay. That was a military officer, I think, worked for the RAND or the CIA. And he predicted by roughly 2025 that, for instance, the population of the U.S. would go from 300 plus million.

46:04 down to about 99 before 2025 in various other countries as well. Oh, yeah. I mean, I didn't know that's what it was called. I have read information about that, that it had something to do with, yeah. So what was your first question? Sorry. Just that I believe.

46:34 or from my research and many others, that we're basically looking at a movie where all sides are in on it together at the highest levels and everything's being orchestrated to get to this maybe one world government depopulation agenda. So I don't refer to that as a movie. To me, a movie is something that is playing that you have no ability to affect the end.

47:04 So the story is already written and that you basically are strapped in watching it happen and you have no effect on the outcome. So I discard that 100 percent. I'm very familiar with different entities that say that you're watching a movie, but actually I take that in a completely different way. To me, if you go back and understand.

47:31 That every part of our history is a lie. So let me use the analogy of the, you know, I don't watch movies, so this is going to be very awkward. If you had a movie that was filmed, put in a can, and came out, you know, a few years ago that said, here's exactly what's going to happen.

48:00 You can go back from like the 1960s when I was born in the 60s. So all of the vaccinations that were added over the next 40 years, that was a lie. Everything that was written about those vaccines and their effectiveness and all that other stuff, 100% lie. If you go to Hollywood, the entire creation of Hollywood was a lie. It was designed as a propaganda shop.

48:30 and an arm of the CIA. Everything about the rock and roll music industry was a lie. It was created as an intelligence operation to basically subdue us, brainwash us in frequencies that basically neutralized us as a force of mobilizing against our government. Every war that we've been in is a lie.

49:01 Every terrorist attack around the world was a lie. So from my perspective, our life has been a movie. We have participated in that movie like those murder on the Orient kind of attractions over in Orlando, Florida, where you get to participate in a murder mystery.

49:28 Basically, the movie that I believe people are referring to when it says you're watching a movie, our entire lives has been a movie. We have not lived in reality a single day because your government has lied to you about every aspect of your life. The education is a lie. The history is a lie. The current reality is a lie because they are not being honest with us.

49:58 Showed you the New York Times comes out and says they had a leak of Matt Gaetz shit. They didn't have a leak. That shit was handed to them by someone in Congress. That is, again, everything, every part of that is a lie. And so I believe because of what we're doing here in waking people up and showing them what their real history is.

50:28 will literally change our destination because we are never going back to sleep. And the bigger our, not just mine, but everyone's audience gets, and the bigger our effort to right the past wrong and stop, hit stop on the movie. I want to live in reality. I don't want to live in their movie anymore. To live in reality requires you to know the truth.

50:58 And to however you process that information to go forward in demand every day that you not be lied to anymore by your government. And that's that's where I think we're at right now is the election of Donald Trump signifies to our government. We no longer want to live in your movie. We want reality all along. Go ahead. Yeah, Colonel, I just wanted to pick up on.

51:28 Something that Luby mentioned earlier about the mid-70s period of legislative oversight of CIA. So one of the three things that I think he possibly could have alluded to, although I'm not certain, is the 1974 act passed by the Hughes-Ryan Act of 1974.

51:58 I would urge everyone to look that one up, you know, spend a little time researching the Hughes-Ryan Act of 1974, because, you know, that is the same one. Hughes was targeted by CIA and was removed by 1980. A lot of senators who were active on those mid-70s oversight committees were targeted by CIA, and they all fell in the absolutely critical turning point of elections of 1980.

52:27 Even though it's true, as you're suggesting, with the narrative of Shackley, Wilson, and that whole thread can kind of maybe suggest an alternative explanation to 1980 being a key turning point in terms of CIA total access. It's subject to debate and different interpretations about how successful Carter was.

52:55 In limiting that, obviously he wasn't because they just made plan B on a couple of different levels. But anyway, it's critical, I think, regardless of the failure or success of congressional oversight, and it clearly was a failure, to illustrate that. And what I mean by that is we have to say to kids in classrooms and their taxpaying adults, these people were actually trying.

53:25 to obey the U.S. Constitution. They were trying to check and balance the CIA. And, you know, was that flawed? Absolutely. Why? Well, one of the things is the most sincere people, people like Congressman Leo Ryan of the critical Hughes-Ryan Act, was assassinated as the literal trigger incident of the Jonestown guy on a piece. You know, are we going to let them tell us it's a coincidence?

53:53 that the fiercest legislative oversight of CIA in U.S. history was targeted for assassination on a Jonestown tarmac? So in addition to... That's significant. Yeah, in addition to that one, you had the Church Committee, you had the Pike Committee, and you also had the Rockefeller Committee. And they were all basically during the same timeframe that were...

54:23 that was looking into the, um, activities of the CIA at the end of the day. Um, the, I mean, we've, I've, I've posted about the Rockefeller commission that was basically limited hangout. Um, they didn't, you know, you have the, um, Colby coming and supposedly revealing the family jewels, but in, at the end of the day, he didn't reveal the really crazy.

54:53 stuff. Like, yeah, okay, he talked about MKUltra, but did he mention the whole Jonestown and all of the rest of the stuff? No, he didn't. So, the COINTELPRO, yeah, but again, did they admit that they had assassinated JFK? No. Did they admit that they assassinated MLK? No. So, again, the entire revealing of

55:25 While Leo Ryan, to me, in all of the research that I've done, was the one true reformer that was not going to take no for an answer. And I do believe that's the reason why he was murdered. The rest of them, including John Kerry, did a very limited hangout, quote unquote, investigation.

55:51 and moved on and as a matter of fact carrie hit a lot of shit um so yeah i think i think that there was um more success in in the um house select committee on assassination said to some extent the church committee but i think they were just as you suggest limited hangouts but we could more importantly we could see why and when they're limited hangouts we could literally see

56:20 The CIA reach into Congress directly by means of, you know, Operation Mockingbird contacts at the New York Times and Washington Post. And that's why I really urge people to read Professor Catherine Olmstead's. She's the one at UCAL Davis in the Graduate Program in History. It's an amazing book. And you can see why this book is not very popular.

56:46 The legacy media really does not want us to read this book because it's the best depiction of Operation Mockingbird in terms of the abnegation of the U.S. Constitution by the CIA that one can read. I'm going to put it in the pill. It's amazing. Thank you. SR-71. Ma'am, if I can for a moment. I'm not seeing a lot of hands go up. I see people.

57:15 wanting to request but the hand doesn't stay up i know matt's been waiting for a while he's texted me uh a few times so if you would give me yeah i'm up sir i'm not sure the hand was broken that's why i'm sorry for interrupting yeah jeff you don't get to decide who's next um the co-host do and if matt's had his hand up he's a co-host go ahead matt i don't see your hand i wondered

57:44 Uh, but, but Colonel, it's, it's good to see you as always. Um, let's see. I have a question. I have a question that's off topic, but I'll get to it later. Um, so, so you're telling, so just to sum up what, uh, what you read in that, in that chapter, the, uh, what was the guy's name again? Ed, uh, Ed Wilson. So he, so he was a multi, a multimillionaire the whole time he was working.

58:16 As a CIA asset, but he was able to project himself to be somebody else. Well, basically, he is very much similar to the William Polly character that we went over a long time ago. So what they do is they go into arrangements with actual CIA officers that are their agents. They are GS employees in the CIA and they say, OK, we're going to pretend that you're leaving the agency.

58:46 And that you're going to be set up in a business, whether that business is the maritime business that he set up or the sea supply thing that Paul Helliwell set up or Air America. So they offload these people into this quote unquote business role while they are still a direct line, not tethered, not a dotted line, a direct line to the CIA. In this case.

59:15 Not only did they tell Edwin Wilson his mission was going to be to set up a company, they actually infiltrated with Edwin Wilson Task Force 157. So they had him fill out an application or whatever over at the Department of Navy, knowing that they were setting up this secret. And he portrayed himself as.

59:41 No connection now to the CIA at all. A former officer of the CIA. Now I don't have a job. I need a job. I'll come work and do the same thing that I did at the CIA for you at Task Force 157, going around, leading the effort to map all of these harbors for you. And the Task Force 157 hired him to do that job. So as the front company, this maritime company.

1:00:09 actually did maritime business because the only way that you can have a credible front company is to actually run a company. So they will hire people that are in that business. And so they have ships and they're actually usually contracted through another front company to the CIA to haul drugs or whatever. Right. So but it's a it looks like a legitimate maritime company.

1:00:34 Because you've got ships sitting in the harbor, that you've got things registered to you, and you're making a lot of money. And so in most of these cases, because you want to, you have more credibility worldwide if you project yourself as a successful businessman, not a struggling artist, right?

1:00:57 Whether or not he's making millions, he's going to live like he's a millionaire because that's how you gain entry into millionaire clubs like around the world that they want the spies to infiltrate. And so he's now on the payroll of Task Force 157 with this same fake company that he is also using as a CIA front.

1:01:25 articulated, people like Felix Rodriguez, who are all CIA assets, he starts hiring them to work for Task Force 157 while they're on the payroll of the CIA. So you have this duality here of Edwin Wilson.

1:01:43 And in many cases, like in the case with William Polly, who was given the Kurdish aircraft franchise over in Southeast Asia so he could equip Chiang Kai-shek with aircraft. He was given a franchise in a maritime business so he could set them up in the shipping so they could ferry out their drugs and launder the money and they could carry their money and secure aircraft, blah, blah, blah. He was another one. He goes on to be an ambassador. He's in five different countries when the countries are couped.

1:02:13 He is living in Miami in a palace on the water as a millionaire using his yacht to launch attacks into Cuba. He has people like Felix Rodriguez going on his private yacht and actually sending them off to the coast of Cuba to launch attacks into Cuba. So he is 100% a CIA agent living the life of a millionaire. And this was done.

1:02:40 At nauseam, across the board, many, many, many hundreds of people did this for the CIA all over the world. Go ahead, Matt. And this isn't just a follow up to that before we before we go to the next hand. This this is inauthentic and it's not unique to millionaires who work for the CIA. I'm sure it's it's probably other. See, then you've got to start questioning, OK, well, who else does this apply to? Who else is living?

1:03:11 a lifestyle that is lavish, but they're dirt poor, but they've got all this stuff, so they're able to pass themselves off as some kind of multimillionaire. That's not unique to agents for the CIA, I'm sure. No, it's not. It's not unique to any intelligence activity. They all do it. Jeff, go ahead. Good morning, or excuse me, good afternoon, Colonel.

1:03:46 I've met and talked to soldiers from World War II, Baton Death March, all the way through to my friend's dad being in the Korean War, all the way through to the vets now. And I have a couple of family members that have PTSD. It's the most terrible PTSD I've ever seen in my life. And battle, I mean terrible battle, hardened PTSD.

1:04:16 To think that we're giving $80 million to the Taliban in Kabul after what these guys went through, for what these guys, the intelligence, and the government did, it's unacceptable. I agree. It's terrible. It's terrible. I'm sorry, Colonel. I agree. I'm sorry. I agree. Completely unacceptable. Carrie, go ahead. Hi. My data is that...

1:04:50 church of the church committee was a Richie boy so I think that was a whole huge psyop and there was supposed to be a really key piece to what was supposed to happen after the church committee and that was dumped in the garbage but I don't know what that is I'll look it up what that was and let you know later

1:05:17 But maybe people don't know what a Richie boy is, Colonel. Maybe they don't know what? What a Richie boy is. Well, do you want to tell them what a Richie boy is or you want me to? I think you're more eloquent than me, Colonel. Well, the Richie boys were a large contingent of people.

1:05:45 that were trained at a secret camp called Camp Ritchie, which was located in Maryland, just outside of Washington, D.C. The majority of the people came to the United States from Germany and Austria and basically went through this training. The majority of them, because they were used as spies during World War II,

1:06:14 spoke the German language. Most of them were Jewish that fled the Nazi camp and were transported to the United States specifically for this training to be then redeployed back into Germany as spies. There was a total of over 22,000 men and women.

1:06:42 all speaking German, that went through this training and they were basically, if I gave you the definition of an Operation Gladio person as far as interrogation, psychological training, shooting, learn how to do explosives, this is what it would look like. That is the exact same training that they went through.

1:07:06 They served as translators. Some of them were lawyers. They served as prosecutors at the Nuremberg trials. So basically, many of them grew up to be all kinds of different people in our government and in industry. And there is a gentleman who wrote a book.

1:07:34 that basically did a biography on all of the different Richie boys. And he's in the process now of trying to do a video that I know of and kind of shape this all into a much easier story than just his book of the biography. But he has done an excellent job.

1:08:03 of kind of gathering up who all of they um who they all were and just as a sampling of who they all were you can just go on to the wikipedia and look and yes frank church was one of them so but so it was a lot of other people names that you will readily recognize um especially if you do any research um what's the name of the guy that um

1:08:35 I'll have to look up his name. That's one of the things that's escaping me right now, unfortunately. Thank you. Go ahead, Matt. So the guy we talked about today, he would not be one of those Richie boys, correct? No. Edwin Wilson? No, he was not. How did he get all his money, though? Well, I take that back because you've answered that already. He did not earn his money.

1:09:14 Well, yes and no. I mean, these companies are real companies. They do generate, like Air America was a real company. Evergreen. Evergreen was basically a CIA cutout. I worked for Evergreen. I was a maintainer on the ramp at UPS. They had a contract with UPS and did all of the maintenance for UPS. They made money. It's a real company.

1:09:43 Their primary mission is to take care of the CIA while posing as a real company generating money. The people that were in charge of Evergreen, especially at the very beginning, made lots of money. Now, they went into bankruptcy a couple of different times because, again, these operations are money laundering as well. It's a way of...

1:10:12 them using cash from drugs and weapons sales in order to buy a legitimate business, an airline, airplanes, or whatever that they're going to use for nefarious reasons. But it provides them a place to park cash. And then you can put the cash in these companies as a way of laundering it. And then the companies, you know,

1:10:42 Make quote unquote investments. They'll buy property and all this other stuff. And it's laundering money. And then the properties get sold. And once that cash is generated, it's been laundered and you can do whatever the hell you want with it. So the guy that did the Richie boy, his name on.

1:11:10 X is Cartwright, C-A-R-T-W-R-I-G-H-T. So you can find him. It's his actual handle is at J underscore B as in Bravo underscore Cartwright. His book is called The Quiet Contingent. So anybody else? Matt, go ahead. Well, if no one else has any questions.

1:11:50 questions on the topics that we've covered today i guess i guess i'll ask what i wanted to ask you that's off topic if you don't mind go ahead so i so i saw that uh dr jay batacharya is um is going to be is is considering trump's considering him to be head nih and of course batacharya is uh is is is with stanford i can't talk today any concerns there given um

1:12:19 Any concerns there given Bhattacharya's association with Stanford or no? I have concerns of anyone who has associations with Stanford. Stanford is our Oxford as far as I'm concerned. Again, I'm not going to spend a lot of time on people that have been rumored to be appointed in some place. At some point in this whole thing, there's...

1:12:49 a long list of things being orchestrated, none of which I'm privy to. The one thing that I have to do at this point is trust that Trump is smart enough to have considered all of the angles of every single person that he is going to put in.

1:13:19 As far as I'm concerned, the majority of these people are being hired to turn the lights off, put a padlock on the door, and put a for sale sign. And that doesn't require a lot of talent. Because the real critical node in all of this is the Elon Musk, Vivek efforts of looking at

1:13:49 How to reorganize government. Now, the one thing I will say across the board, you guys obviously follow me and you've heard me say it. I've yet to hear anybody say that we are looking at the Constitution and deciding what should be in the federal government and what should not. That is my biggest complaint at this point, because.

1:14:18 Reorganizing the desk chairs on the Titanic is the epitome of insanity. If our Constitution says the government basically does, the federal government does three things, the defense of the country, foreign policy, and the currency, which is the Treasury. Those are the three constitutional requirements for the federal government.

1:14:49 They are not supposed to be doing another damn thing. They are not supposed to be doing the I mean, like long term. We are not supposed to be having a Department of Transportation. Sorry, we're not. If they want to have a commission like let's just say that Roosevelt was not a socialist and that he honestly wanted a work program for people coming back.

1:15:14 What should have happened if we had not have bastardized our republic with the 17th Amendment and we were still actually taxing states and not individuals? What should have happened was there should have been a works program set up for 24 months to build international interstates that benefited every single state. There should have been a tax levied on those states. Put that money in a kitty. You build all of those interstates.

1:15:44 And then the apparatus goes away. It has a sundown. There's no way in hell it can be continued. At 24 months, everything chops to the states and we're done. And that is the way every single thing should be done. There should be a pay for mechanism that is levied on the states. If you want to have a commission to look over vaccine schedules, that should be a tax sent to the states.

1:16:13 And if the governors of the states don't want to have that happen, that's why their senators were appointed by the state, not elected. They represent us in Washington, D.C., along with our representatives. But the senators were sent there to be a representative of the state. The two pieces of our republic is the citizens and the state.

1:16:43 The federal government was never supposed to be anything. And the fact now that senators are more powerful than governors is bullshit. The way our republic is set up is the senators worked for the governor. You would never, ever have a governor go be a senator the way our republic was originally set up because it was a subservient position on your way to being the governor because the governor was like the king.

1:17:13 within a state hierarchy. And the governors had more authority than anybody. The president was a figurehead that represented us on the international stage. He wasn't in control of anything. The senators and the House of Representatives had to decide that we went to war, which again, because they represented the governor and the state legislatures, we would have never been.

1:17:43 at a perpetual war machine if our republic was restored. And until we do that, and I don't hear anybody talking about it, we are still on a collision course for corruption. We have to reinstall our republic, which, yes, I know people are talking about ending the Fed. That is a step towards that. But we have to repeal the 17th Amendment.

1:18:13 The senators must report back to the states in order to elevate the states. And I understand the whole thing about the tariffs and stuff like that. But any additional expenditures has to be sent to the states and they have to be voted on by the states and whether or not they want to participate and return our republic back to us. Tom, go ahead. Okay, sorry. Just to touch back what I asked you a while ago.

1:18:44 How do you see, as this is so concerning with the Atacama attack, how do you see this possibly playing out? On the Russia attack? Right. Well, I mean, obviously, Putin's a very wise man, and he understands that he is being baited by NATO. I like the idea of targeting NATO.

1:19:13 Because I think that is the appropriate response. And if there is a NATO entity somewhere that has a few targets that minimizes casualty damage, that's probably his ability to show strength and not tolerating future attacks. There's plenty.

1:19:42 of targets that he already knows about that are CIA operations inside of Ukraine. There are plenty of NATO entities inside of Ukraine that could be done there that would minimize the amount of our military because most of the people there are not in any official status unless they're CIA. They're private military assets there.

1:20:11 some of which are Americans. Unfortunately, it's very ignorant to be in a war zone and doing the things that they're doing, especially on the side that they're on. But I understand that people do that. So I think he's smart enough to understand that this is not anything that Trump would have done or tolerated, and he will be very measured in his response. Matt, go ahead. So do you think that the...

1:20:42 The Biden administration, or whoever, whoever's really running the country, authorized this strike to essentially have World War III land in Trump's lap by the time he gets in office. If that's the case, I think it's going to backfire because Trump warned plenty of times throughout the campaign about the start of World War III potentially happening. So this might actually backfire.

1:21:12 It will most certainly backfire. But again, I just hedged my bet in saying that there is some likelihood that there will be a response. But everyone clearly sees what's going on. And when you look back and apply the strategy of tension overview.

1:21:42 on this situation, it is clear that that is exactly what they're pursuing. They want as much tension so that one wrong move sets up a much bigger play for their side from a kind of retribution or reactionary kind of thing. They are trying to bait Russia into reacting and

1:22:11 will turn that around and use that as a justification for more and more escalation, which then brings Trump in, you know, basically, according to them, on his back heels in a defensive position. Anything that they can do to set up the incoming Trump administration is going to be tried between now and January 20th. We just need to buckle up because this is just the beginning.

1:22:40 of what's going to be a very turbulent ride landing on January 20th. SR71. Thank you, Colonel. Two points. I would add the judiciary to what we need as far as the Constitution goes. We have to have a way of settling squabbles between the states and, of course, protecting all our citizens' rights. But along with that, I was thinking about Wilson.

1:23:12 his act in this whole deal. And looking at what Wilson was doing, it seemed to me, I don't understand why Wilson didn't understand that he was being used as much as he thought he was using people. Well, Woodrow Wilson, in my book, is one of the worst presidents we've ever had. So let me just go back to your comment about the judiciary. That's a separate government, segment of our government.

1:23:42 So in the triad, obviously, you have Congress, the judiciary, and the executive branch. So nothing I said had anything to do with the judiciary. I'm talking about the president's cabinet. The judiciary is actually set up in our Constitution, as is Congress. The executive branch gave, the Constitution gave the executive branch.

1:24:11 Three duties, the conduct, the conducting of our war role, foreign policy, which is basically inter and intra state commerce and the treasury, the printing of the currency and that type of thing for a collective uniform monetary policy. Those are the three things.

1:24:35 Now, if you go back, I just noticed in the research that I've done, especially when you were looking at the paper that I did on fluoride, you find that the Roosevelt administration and Wilson and many of the others were tucking all kinds of governmental offices into this basically triad.

1:25:03 which later broke out into being their own departments. For example, I was shocked to find out that all health to include where the first dentist was assigned to the federal government was housed in Treasury because Treasury was one of the only constitutional.

1:25:25 departments that it was authorized and so they began hiring all of these people and said in some loose justification that people's hell had everything to do with you know being able to produce money or whatever in some bastardized way of justifying hiring these people but that that's how the secret service ended up in treasury um because

1:25:52 And they had to give them something to do as far as Treasury goes. And that's how they got the money laundering role. And so that's how at the very beginning of this, you know, that our government grew. It grew under those basic three entities to mushroom into what it is today. Matt, go ahead.

1:26:23 So I'm guessing if you had to get rid of only one amendment to the Constitution between the 16th and the 17th, you'd get rid of the 17th hands down, correct? Correct. I think almost all of the amendments were bullshit, but the 17th totally destroyed our republic. I've heard it said— It cannot function as it's originally intended unless you repeal the 17th. I mean, obviously, I think the whole anchor baby thing is bullshit because—

1:27:01 The Constitution was clear. The papers in the Federal Register that talks about that clearly articulates that they meant children that had been born of people involuntarily brought to this country, they actually use.

1:27:23 Words to that effect that they had to have been brought here involuntarily, i.e. slaves. It was never meant for anybody who happens to be transiting our country for five minutes like these birth hotels out in California for Chinese people. That's a total bastardization of that amendment. So, yeah, there's lots of work in that arena. But the 17th to me is paramount.

1:27:53 What's your take on the whole birthright citizenship deal where like illegals or whoever come over here, have a baby and drop a kid in here and suddenly that kid's an American citizen? It's wrong. That is a complete misinterpretation of the Constitution. That amendment specifically says you had to have been brought here involuntarily. All right. We got a hand up, Carrie.

1:28:26 Yeah, I'm just wondering if people know who Henry David Thoreau was. He went to prison for not wanting to pay tax on the Mexican War, and he didn't want to pay for slavery. I don't know how that worked. But he said, I'm happy to pay for highways. I'll pay for that tax. And they put him in prison. Henry David Thoreau. Yeah.

1:29:03 Unfortunately, according to our federal government, you don't get to pick and choose. But, yeah. Anyway, all along, go ahead. All along. Can't hear you. Oh, I'm sorry. I did not actually have my hand raised, although.

1:29:37 Okay. I've been trying to raise my hand. I think the hand-raising thing might be kind of broken tonight. Oh, well, that's interesting. Somebody else mentioned, or maybe I'm, yeah, because the hand-raise never shows, and maybe it's, on my end, you can't see it, but maybe it's visible to everyone else, hard to see. So I would tell everybody, Bridget constantly reminds me to update my app.

1:30:06 When we get an update, there was one I think yesterday. So if you haven't updated it, this is the, today's the first day that I've not been kicked out of my own space. So I don't know if they fixed something, but today is the first day and probably over three or four months that I've not been kicked out of my own space at least once. So yay Elon.

1:30:36 Keep making those updates so you can fix this shit. But anyway, all right. If that's all we've got today, I'm going to go ahead and sign off. And I thank everyone for being here. We will be back tomorrow at four and tomorrow is Wednesday. So we will be doing the Alpha Warrior Show at 930 East Coast time. And we will also be continuing the World Anti-Communist League.

1:31:06 or the collection of criminals, whichever one. I mean, it's, well, I see Magor. All right, you can come up here, Sarge. I'll give you the last comment. Go ahead, Magor. Is there a Skull and Bones equivalent at Stanford, I'm wondering, fraternity-wise, that we should keep an eye on?

1:31:37 I don't know. That's that's a great question. I've never paid attention to as far as I'm concerned, every Stanford graduate is a potential asset because it's not isolated to any one entity. And there's way too many of them for all of these people to have been in a fraternity, you know, because.

1:32:06 Just the vast array of and including their institutions that are on the campus out there, because, you know, that's the election interference one. Stan Bateman Freed's parents were on the staff out there. It's just like every aspect of Stanford. It reminds me so much of the rot that you find coming out of the Rhodes Scholars in Oxford. It's just amazing to me.

1:32:35 Yeah, Colonel, I think it's worth noting that the Hoover Institute aspect of Stanford, while certainly not the only part of Stanford, you know, is probably pretty significant there because you tend to see them often associated with sort of like American Security Council, Taiwan, sort of CIA off the books operations sometimes. And also.

1:33:04 Well, let me say something about the Hoover Institute. I don't know if you guys know this, but the Hoover Institute has a large and I'm going to say super, super large amount of classified documents that has never been released for public review. And they were purposely sent there for that reason. OK, also, the journalist called.

1:33:34 The guy who wrote the book called The Devil's Chest for David Talbot. So he has a very interesting quote with some guy on a committee. I think it's in the Hoover Institute where regarding Alan Dulles and somebody there quoting something to the effect of the old man will take care of it. And the Nick, the Appalachian old man was their reference to Alan Dulles.

1:34:04 And that's from Stanford. I'm going to take a closer look at that, but I should be more specific on that. But it's a good question because we really should know this. We should all know more about it. Excellent question. Yeah. Also, you know, that's where Condoleezza Rice went to hang out. That's where Jane Mattis went to hang out. Henry Kissinger, Milton Freeman.

1:34:32 It is a big deal. And also understand that the guy that wrote the book, Antony Sutton's, the trilogy that we talk about often about the Wall Street and the Bolsheviks and Hitler and FDR, he was asked to leave Stanford for exposing those connections. So, yeah, not good. The Hoover Institute in particular. Carrie, go ahead. Then we got to go.

1:35:01 Yeah, I just want to throw out Aaron Schwartz's name about Stanford. He hated Stanford. Total genius. I'll post something about him if people don't know. Beyond genius person. He got out of there. He's like, this place is psychotic. Yeah, definitely not.

1:35:24 not on the good side of things as far as what we've been exposing. So definitely not good. Okay. So again, thanks everybody for being here. Appreciate it. And we will be back, like I said, tomorrow at four and at nine 30 East coast time tomorrow night. And I'll see you then. Thanks everyone.

Entities here

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Claims made here

Henry Kissinger spied_on Admiral Moorer book_quoted ▶ 5:15

“The White House plumbers discovered that the Naval Operations Chief, Admiral Moorer, M-O-O-R-E-R, was worried about Kissinger, so worried about him that he had sent a Navy yeoman named Charles Radford…”

Charles Radford spied_on Henry Kissinger book_quoted ▶ 5:15

Edwin Wilson front_for Task Force 157 book_quoted ▶ 9:33

“H-O-K-U-M, a CIA security official who had gone to work for Naval Intelligence. So the CIA has infiltrated the Navy to make Wilson the corporate front for 157. Wilson is another CIA agent infiltrating…”

Edwin Wilson founded World Marine Inc. book_quoted ▶ 11:27

“Wilson was appalled at the thin cover the Navy used for Task Force 157 and the fact that it was running scores of spying operations out of three related checking accounts. You make one of these accoun…”

Edwin Wilson recruited Chi Chi Quintero book_quoted ▶ 12:32

“Chichi Quintero. Chichi Quintero, Q-U-I-N-T-E-R-O. Wilson hired Quintero for the Navy at a $600 a month retainer. And this is a quote from Quintero. I had run operations in South America and Mexico. A…”

Edwin Wilson recruited Ricardo Chavez book_quoted ▶ 13:05

“and offered the Navy access to Cuba through Quintero. They were delighted. After three or four weeks, we had a man reporting from Havana Harbor on what was going on and who was doing it. Wilson reacti…”

Ricardo Chavez member_of PEMEX book_quoted ▶ 14:06

“also had contact with the president of Mexico through her family. We recruited top people in what was referred to as PEMEX, and we've talked about PEMEX before, P-E-M-E-X. They gave us access to Cuban…”

Tom Clines recruited Felix Rodriguez book_quoted ▶ 15:34

“basically developed his entire career. Thanks to Quintero, Clines, and Shackley, they were dining out on Wilson's and the Navy's efforts, giving Wilson little or no credit. In 1973, Clines also brough…”

Edwin Wilson supplied_arms_to Sarkis Soghanalian book_quoted ▶ 17:05

“He was a Turkish-born Armenian arms dealer from one of the best-connected Christian families in Lebanon. Back when Wilson worked with Air America, he had sold Slohani Island, his first Boeing 707 carg…”

Edwin Wilson attempted_assassination_of Felix Rodriguez book_quoted ▶ 18:06

“this arms dealer, as Klein requested, because he knew that the arms dealer was looking for an experienced man to train the Christian militia. But the arms dealer tells a darker story about what Wilson…”

Norman Schwarzkopf Sr. founded SAVAK host_asserted ▶ 25:40

“Now, the military assistance group is like those mags that started the Phoenix program in Vietnam, just FYI. This is at the same time that we're going to find Major General Norman Schwarzkopf, our Sch…”

Edwin Wilson supplied_arms_to Iran book_quoted ▶ 26:10

“They managed billions in military sales to the Shah's government. According to Wilson, one reason von Marburg was sent to Iran was that the Shah had fallen about a billion dollars behind in his paymen…”

Edwin Wilson trained SAVAK book_quoted ▶ 29:02

“He taught the Savak how to intercept opposition radio communications and how to use surveillance equipment. As the trust built between Wilson and the Savak, he flew back and forth to the U.S. to repor…”

Richard Nixon appointed Richard Helms book_quoted ▶ 29:28

“It soon became clear that Wilson's perceptions of the situation in Iran directly contradicted those of Ambassador Helms. In other words, they're lying. Although Nixon had fired Helms from the CIA, he …”

Edwin Wilson member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 35:33

“That's basically what Wilson was. Wilson had the ability, based on his cover, to be deep inside of the military and deep inside of CIA operations at the same time. That's very rare. He also, because o…”

Richard Shackley trafficked CIA host_asserted ▶ 36:02

“The Shackley and Klein were intimately involved in the drug side of our wagon wheel. Wilson was the person that they used for drug or excuse me, for arms trafficking. And in that respect, even though …”

Edwin Wilson trafficked CIA host_asserted ▶ 36:02

CIA controlled Ukraine host_asserted ▶ 37:04

“Let's see. Let me find them. Oh, I wanted to comment on obviously the missile strike into Russia and the supposedly the Biden administration authorizing this. So let me just on the record say this. Uk…”

NATO carried_out_attack Soviet Union host_asserted ▶ 38:35

“president they have no military it is 100 being propped up by nato they have no intelligence capability it is 100 being run by foreign intelligence services to include the cia and so basically you cou…”

CIA assassinated Leo Ryan host_asserted ▶ 53:25

“to obey the U.S. Constitution. They were trying to check and balance the CIA. And, you know, was that flawed? Absolutely. Why? Well, one of the things is the most sincere people, people like Congressm…”

CIA covered_up Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. host_asserted ▶ 54:53

“stuff. Like, yeah, okay, he talked about MKUltra, but did he mention the whole Jonestown and all of the rest of the stuff? No, he didn't. So, the COINTELPRO, yeah, but again, did they admit that they …”

CIA covered_up Robert Kennedy assassination host_asserted ▶ 54:53

CIA infiltrated Task Force 157 host_asserted ▶ 59:15

“Not only did they tell Edwin Wilson his mission was going to be to set up a company, they actually infiltrated with Edwin Wilson Task Force 157. So they had him fill out an application or whatever ove…”

Edwin Wilson member_of Task Force 157 host_asserted ▶ 59:41

“No connection now to the CIA at all. A former officer of the CIA. Now I don't have a job. I need a job. I'll come work and do the same thing that I did at the CIA for you at Task Force 157, going arou…”

Felix Rodriguez member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:01:25

“articulated, people like Felix Rodriguez, who are all CIA assets, he starts hiring them to work for Task Force 157 while they're on the payroll of the CIA. So you have this duality here of Edwin Wilso…”

William J. Polk supplied_arms_to Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 1:01:43

“And in many cases, like in the case with William Polly, who was given the Kurdish aircraft franchise over in Southeast Asia so he could equip Chiang Kai-shek with aircraft. He was given a franchise in…”

Richie Boys trained Camp Ritchie host_asserted ▶ 1:05:45

“that were trained at a secret camp called Camp Ritchie, which was located in Maryland, just outside of Washington, D.C. The majority of the people came to the United States from Germany and Austria an…”

Frank Church member_of Richie Boys host_asserted ▶ 1:08:03

“of kind of gathering up who all of they um who they all were and just as a sampling of who they all were you can just go on to the wikipedia and look and yes frank church was one of them so but so it …”

CIA front_for Evergreen International Airlines host_asserted ▶ 1:09:14

“Well, yes and no. I mean, these companies are real companies. They do generate, like Air America was a real company. Evergreen. Evergreen was basically a CIA cutout. I worked for Evergreen. I was a ma…”

CIA front_for Air America host_asserted ▶ 1:09:14

Vladimir Putin targeted_for_regime_change North Atlantic Treaty Organization host_asserted ▶ 1:19:13

“Because I think that is the appropriate response. And if there is a NATO entity somewhere that has a few targets that minimizes casualty damage, that's probably his ability to show strength and not to…”

Joe Biden ordered_assassination_of Donald Trump speculative ▶ 1:20:42

“The Biden administration, or whoever, whoever's really running the country, authorized this strike to essentially have World War III land in Trump's lap by the time he gets in office. If that's the ca…”

United States Treasury funded United States Secret Service host_asserted ▶ 1:25:25

“departments that it was authorized and so they began hiring all of these people and said in some loose justification that people's hell had everything to do with you know being able to produce money o…”

Henry David Thoreau targeted_for_regime_change Mexican–American War documented ▶ 1:28:26

“Yeah, I'm just wondering if people know who Henry David Thoreau was. He went to prison for not wanting to pay tax on the Mexican War, and he didn't want to pay for slavery. I don't know how that worke…”

Allen Dulles member_of Hoover Institution book_quoted ▶ 1:33:34

“The guy who wrote the book called The Devil's Chest for David Talbot. So he has a very interesting quote with some guy on a committee. I think it's in the Hoover Institute where regarding Alan Dulles …”

Milton Friedman member_of Stanford University documented ▶ 1:34:04

“And that's from Stanford. I'm going to take a closer look at that, but I should be more specific on that. But it's a good question because we really should know this. We should all know more about it.…”

Henry Kissinger member_of Stanford University documented ▶ 1:34:04

James Mattis member_of Stanford University documented ▶ 1:34:04

Condoleezza Rice member_of Stanford University documented ▶ 1:34:04

Antony Sutton exposed Stanford University host_asserted ▶ 1:34:32

“It is a big deal. And also understand that the guy that wrote the book, Antony Sutton's, the trilogy that we talk about often about the Wall Street and the Bolsheviks and Hitler and FDR, he was asked …”

Aaron Swartz member_of Stanford University documented ▶ 1:35:01

“Yeah, I just want to throw out Aaron Schwartz's name about Stanford. He hated Stanford. Total genius. I'll post something about him if people don't know. Beyond genius person. He got out of there. He'…”