Operation Gladio - Indonesia

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0:00 Hello, hello, hello, everybody. Bridget's gonna be a little late. If you guys can post the space out, and I'd really appreciate it. We're gonna wait just a second until a couple more people get in here. Hopefully, I'm gonna send Stellar a link. Let's see. There they are. All right.

0:56 Got that one sent out. Okay. I don't know if anybody that's already on here had anything. I wanted to follow up on what we were talking about yesterday and give everybody an opportunity to say what they needed to say because we had a few hands up when we left.

1:28 um yesterday so if any of you um are among those people um please go ahead and request a mic um otherwise we're going to um get started sr71 i'm going to go ahead since um stellar frog isn't in here and bridge it's going to be late give you a mic just to make sure that um my

2:03 Voices carrying through so that you can let me know if something is awry. And I don't want to wait too long because when people come back to listen to this, they're not going to want to hear a bunch of dead space. So we're probably going to take more than one day to get through Indonesia. I've read a couple of different books.

2:39 on it. I'm going to start off with Killing Hope, William Bloom's book, and there's another professor from Australia that wrote a very interesting book. There's Stellar. I'm going to go ahead and bring her up. Stellar, I'm going to bring you up as co-host because Bridget's going to be a little late.

3:08 We went through a lot of trouble to get his book. He basically went and lived in Indonesia, ended up living in the house next door to where Barack Obama was raised in Indonesia, and did quite a bit of extensive research on the coup that the U.S. and CIA was involved in in Indonesia.

3:36 We're going to kind of start with the Reader's Digest version of it and then go into a little bit more detail. But you'll be able to get the overall gist of it by William Bloom's outtakes on it. So if you guys one more time repost the space and we're going to get started. There's two quotes that were offered.

4:08 One's from Time Magazine and the other one's from the New York Times. And this coup happened around 1965. And if you guys remember, we've talked about it on a couple of different occasions. Part of what people feel were the circumstances leading to the JFK assassination was there was a secret discovery that the Dutch had made.

4:39 in and around Indonesia. And if you go back and you look, whether it was Indonesia, Malaysia, East Timor, all of those were kind of in the same pot as it relates to the Dutch. They had made a discovery of the largest gold mine ever discovered up to that time. And oil field, same thing.

5:09 But they had not told anyone. They had sent secretively geologists all over the world. And they had all of these discoveries that had been made that they told no one about. And they were using this information even post, they did it before World War II, but post-World War II, when they set up the things like the World Wildlife Fund.

5:37 They designated the areas that they were going to quote unquote label as a national park based on these geology reports. We learned that when we were going through the WWF, that Panda Leaks book, which was just extraordinarily fascinating how it dovetails into what we're studying. And so the fact that that gold mine was there, but secret.

6:05 The Dutch were waiting to mine it until they got someone in charge of Indonesia that they owned, basically. So they could basically steal it. Kind of same story that we get everywhere. And the person that was in charge of Indonesia was not under their thumb. So they had to figure out how to get rid of him. And while they were plotting to get rid of him,

6:38 JFK at the same time was working with him in order to give them more freedom. And that put him on a collision course. And within a few days, and I'm not sure it'll be addressed in this one because I read this one last week, so my brain's fogged up between now and then. Just shortly before JFK was assassinated, he had made...

7:10 an agreement with Indonesia to come in January to visit Indonesia. The fear in the CIA was if he came to visit in Indonesia, it would throw the support of the United States behind the current president, and it would be even more difficult to overthrow him because

7:36 Indonesia was huge as far as population goes. And so they couldn't allow that visit to happen. So I want to throw that out there. So the quote from Time Magazine in 1965 in December reads this way. Armed with the wild blade knives called harangs, Muslim bands crept at night into the homes of communists, killing entire families.

8:04 Travelers tell of small rivers and streams that have been literally clogged with bodies. River transportation has, at places, been seriously impeded. The quote in May, six months later, in 1966 from New York Times was, nearly 100 communists or suspected communists were

8:31 herded into the town's botanical garden and mowed down with a machine gun. The head that had belonged to the school principal, a Communist Party member, was stuck on a pole and paraded around his former students, convened at a special assembly. The author goes on to say, not in the New York Times, but William Bloom, that estimates for the number of Indonesians murdered

9:01 over the period of several years during this coup, ranged anywhere from half a million to a million people. In the early morning of 1 October 1965, a small force of junior military officers abducted and killed six generals and seized several key points in the capital city of Jakarta.

9:27 They then went onto the air to announce that their actions were being taken to forestall a punch by the general council scheduled for Army Day the 5th of October. They said it had been sponsored by the CIA and was aimed at capturing power from President Sukarno. By the end of the day, however, the rebel officers in Jakarta had been crushed by the army under the direction of

9:57 General Suharto, although some supportive army groups in other cities held out for the day or two longer. Now, just to give you guys a heads up, Sukarno, because this is very confusing because their names are almost identical, Sukarno is the good guy. Suharto, and I always remember this because I say that Suharto didn't have a heart. He's basically Satan.

10:29 And he's the guy that colludes with the CIA. But at the time, he was a general in the military working for Sukarno, which, as you guys well know, is kind of one of the reoccurring themes that they will find one corrupt military senior officer, as they did with Pinochet and in Uruguay and Brazil and Greece and all of those different places. Suharta.

10:58 A man who had served both the Dutch colonists and the Japanese invaders and his colleagues charged that the large and influential PKI was behind the junior officer coups and that behind the party stood communist China. The triumphant armed forces moved in to grab the reins of government, curb Sukarno's authority.

11:27 Before long, he was reduced to little more than a figurehead and carry out a bloodbath to eliminate once and for all the PKI with whom Sukarno had obliged to share national power for years. Here at last was a situation that could be legitimate for the long-desired actions of a coup. The anti-communist organizations, to include the World Anti-Communist League, by the way,

11:57 and other individuals, including Muslims, were encouraged to join in the slaying of anyone suspected of being a PKI sympathizer. Indonesians of Chinese descent as well fell victim to these zealots. The Indonesian people were stirred up in part by the display of photographs on television and in the press of badly decomposed bodies of the slain generals.

12:25 The men, the public was told, had been castrated and their eyes gouged out by the quote-unquote communist. The Army later made the mistake of allowing official medical autopsies to be included as evidence in some of the trials, and the extremely detailed reports of the injuries suffered mentioned only bullet wounds and some bruises, no castration, and no eye gouging.

12:52 What ensued was called by the New York Times one of the most savage mass slaughters in modern history. Violence, wrote Life magazine, tinged not only with fantasism, but with bloodlust and witchcraft. Now keep in mind, Time magazine, Life magazine, and New York Times are all CIA fronts.

13:15 25 years later, American diplomats disclosed that they had systematically compiled comprehensive lists of quote-unquote communist operatives from the top echelon down to the village cadre and turned over as many as 5,000 names, American diplomats, guys, to the Indonesian army. And by diplomats, we mean CIA.

13:42 which hunted these people down and killed them. The Americans would then check off the names off the list as having been killed or captured. Robert Martens, M-A-R-T-E-N-S, a former member of the U.S. Embassy Political Section of Jakarta, stated in 1990, quote, It really was a big help to the Army. They probably killed a lot of people, and I probably have a lot of blood on my hands, but that's not all bad.

14:11 There's a time when you have to strike hard at a decisive moment, unquote. Another quote by the U.S. Ambassador Marshall Green. I know we had a lot more information about the PKI than the Indonesians themselves. The, let's see, Martins told me on a number of occasions that the government did not have a very good information source on the communist setup.

14:43 And he gave me the impression that this information was superior to anything that we had. So their information's shit, but people are dying from it. Another quote from the State Department liaison with the CIA in 1965 was Howard Federspiel. F-E-D-E-R-S-P-I-E-L. Quote, no one cared as long as they were communists.

15:14 They were butchered. No one was getting very worked up about it, unquote. Although the former deputy CIA station chief in Indonesia, a guy by the name of Joseph Lazarski, and former diplomat Edward Masters, who was Martin's boss,

15:41 confirmed the CIA officers contributed in drawing up the death list, the CIA and Langley categorically denied any involvement in this. The massacre put on a horrific end to the well-organized PKI national organization, but it did not put to rest the basic questions underlying the events in 1965. Was there in actual fact a general's council aiming to take over the government within a matter of days?

16:12 A semi-official account of the whole affair published in Indonesia in 1968 denied the existence of a council even existing. However, a study was published by the CIA the same year confirmed that, oh my gosh, there was a council, but that its purpose was only to devise a protection plan of Sukarno to crush the army.

16:40 What was the exact nature and extent, if any, of the PKI involvement in this alleged coup? Did some members of the party know of the junior officer's plan in advance and simply lend moral support, or did they actually take an active role? The semi-official account stated that PKI's aim was not to seize political power for itself, but to prevent the army from eliminating the party after Sicarno's death.

17:07 Sukarno had suffered a kidney attack in August, and he quickly recovered, but there were some doubts as to his long-term viability. The CIA study comes to a similar conclusion. It now seems clear that the Indonesian coup was not a move to overthrow Sukarno and or the established government of Indonesia. Essentially, it was a purge of the army leadership.

17:34 What was the role of any of the CIA? Was the coup attempt instigated by an agent provocateur who spread the story of the General's Council? The killing or even the abduction of the six generals probably could not have been foreseen. Three of them were actually slain resisting abduction. Was PKI's participation induced to provide the excuse for its destruction?

18:01 These are, in fact, indications of an agent provocateur in the unfolding drama. A guy by the name of, I'm not even going to try to say this name, his last name is Ben Ahmad Mudeha, and he was known as Sam. According to later testimony of some of the arrested officers, it was Sam who had put

18:31 pushed the idea of the hostile general counsel and for the need to counteract it. At the trials in the CIA study, the attempt is made to establish that in doing so, Sam was acting on behalf of the PKI leader. Presentation of this premise may explain why the CIA took the unique steps of publishing such a book to assign responsibility of the coup attempt to the PKI so that it could quote-unquote justify the

19:00 horror. But Sam could just as easily have been acting for the CIA, which most people believe he was, and the generals in the same manner. He apparently was a trusted aide of a man by the name of Adick, who was the PKI leader, and could have induced the PKI leader into the plot instead of the other way around. Sam had a political checkered and mysterious background.

19:30 And his testimony at one of the trials in which he appeared as a defendant was aimed at establishing Adik as the sole director of the coup attempt. The CIA and its intimate involvement in Indonesia political affairs since at least the 1950s had undoubtedly infiltrated the PKI at this point, and that the military had been infiltrated even more so by the CIA. So they were definitely in a good position to disseminate.

20:02 disinformation and plant ideas for certain actions, if not conduct them themselves in their undercover infiltration. The desire of the U.S. government to be rid of Sukarno, a leader that was non-aligned, very anti-imperialist, and got along fine with the PKI, did not diminish with the failure of the agency-backed military uprising in 1958.

20:33 Amongst the various reports of the early 1960s indicating a continuing interest to this end, a CIA memorandum in June of 1962 illustrates this. The author of the memo, whose name has been deleted, was reporting on the impression he had received from a conversation he had with quote-unquote Western diplomats concerning a recent meeting between John F. Kennedy and British Prime Minister Macmillan.

21:02 The two leaders agreed, according to the memo, to attempt to isolate Sokarno in Asia and Africa. They agreed to, let's see, depending on the situation and the opportunities, to deal with Sokarno. And it was unclear as to...

21:35 Exactly what they meant by deal with him. Whatever was intended, Sukarno was now, for all practical purposes, eliminated as an international thorn in the flesh. Or even of even greater significance, the PKI, which had been the largest communist party in the world outside of the Soviet bloc in China, had been decimated. Assassinated would probably be a better word.

22:05 It could not have worked out better for the United States and the new military junta if it had been planned. If the generals had been planning their own coup, as alleged, the evidence is compelling that the U.S. was intimately involved during and after the events of 30 September and 1 October. One aspect of this evidence is the closeness of the relationship between American and Indonesian military.

22:31 the United States had been cultivating for many years. JFK's former aide, Arthur Schlesinger, had written, quote, anxious to strengthen the anti-communist forces, especially the army, in order to make sure if anything happened to Soekarno, the powerful Indonesian Communist Party would not inherit the country, unquote. Roger Hilsman, who we come across more often, H-I-L-S-M-A-N,

23:01 whose career spanned the CIA and State Department, noted that in 1963, quote, one-third of the Indonesian general staff had had some sort of training from American and almost half the officer corps. As a result of both the Civic Action Project and the training program, the American and Indonesian military had come to know each other very well. Bonds of personal respect, even affection, existed, unquote.

23:28 This observation was also reinforced in the House Committee on Foreign Affairs that wrote in a report, quote, at the time of the attempted communist coup, and I'm going to put parentheses around communist, and military countercoup of October 1965, more than 1,200 Indonesian officers, including senior military, had been trained in the U.S.

23:53 As a result of this experience, numerous friendships, contacts existed between Indonesian and American military, particularly between members of the two armies. In the post-coup period, when the political situation still unsettled, the U.S., using these existing channels of communication, was able to provide the anti-communist forces with moral and material support.

24:17 When the average military assistance program trainee returns home, he may well have some American acquaintances and a fair appreciation for the U.S. This impact may provide some valuable future opportunity for communications, as occurred in Indonesia during and after the coup attempt. The CIA, according to the New York Times, said,

24:44 To have been so successful at infiltrating the top of the Indonesian government and army, the United States was reluctant to disrupt CIA covering operations by withdrawing aid and information programs in 1964 and 5. What was presented officially in Washington as toleration of President Sukarno's insults and provocations was, in much larger measure, a desire to keep the CIA fronts in business.

25:13 as long as possible. Finally, we have the testimony of Defense Secretary Robert McNamara before a Senate committee. Quote, Senator Sparksman said, at a time when Indonesia was kicking up pretty bad, when we were getting a lot of criticism for continuing military aid, at the time we could not say that the military aid was for. Is it secret anymore? McNamara responds.

25:42 I think it's in retrospect that the aid was well justified, Sparksman asked. You think it paid dividends? McNamara says, I do, sir. There are other statements which may be pertinent to the question of America's involvement. Former Ambassador Marshall Green, speaking in Australia in 1973, where he was then the ambassador, stated, quote, in 1965,

26:13 I remember Indonesia was poised at the razor's edge. I remember people arguing from here that Indonesia wouldn't go communist. But when Sukarno announced in his August 17th speech that Indonesia would have a communist government within a year, then I was almost certain. What we did, we had to do. And you'd better be glad we did because it wasn't Asia. It would be a different place today.

26:43 We move on to the New York Times article in 66 that says Washington was being careful not to lay claim or claim credit for this change from Sukarno to Suharto. But this does not mean that Washington had nothing to do with it. There's a great deal more contact between the anti-communist forces in the country and at least one very high official in Washington before and during the massacre.

27:11 General Suharto forces, at times severely short of food and ammunition, have been getting aid from here through various third world countries. And it's doubtful that Suharto's coup could have ever taken place without the American show of strength. Neville Maxwell, a senior research officer at Oxford University, wrote the following.

27:39 A few years ago, I was researching in Pakistan into diplomatic backgrounds in the 1965 Indonesia-Pakistan conflict, and a foreign ministry paper to which I had been given access came across a letter then to Foreign Minister Mr. Bhutto, who was, I guess, at the time, maybe the president of Pakistan, from one of his ambassadors, yeah, he's the president, in Europe.

28:11 in Paris, reporting a conversation with a Dutch intelligence officer in NATO. According to my note of that letter, the officer had remarked to the Pakistani diplomat that Indonesia was ready to fall into the Western lap like a rotten apple. Western intelligence agency, he said, would organize a premature communist coup, which would be for doomed to fail.

28:38 providing a legitimate and welcome opportunity to crush the communists and make Sukarno a prisoner of his own army. The ambassador's report was dated December 1964, which predates the actual coup by about nine months. So they're actually bragging about what they're going to do in this correspondence.

29:07 It should be remembered that Indonesia had been a colony of the Netherlands and that Dutch still had links throughout the entire country. The record of the quote-unquote new order imposed by General Suharta upon the people of Indonesia was almost three decades, over three decades, had been remarkable. The government administers

29:33 the nation on the level of chicago gangsters of the 1930s running a protection racket political prisoners overflow the jails torture is routine death squads roam at will willing or killing not only some quote-unquote subversives but quote-unquote suspected criminals by the thousands because they were running out of jail cells an army officer in the province of ace

30:03 fires a single shot in the air, at which point all the young males must run to the center of the square before the soldier fires a second shot. Then everyone arriving late or not leaving his home is shot on the spot. Oh, that's nice. In 1975, Indonesia invaded the former Portuguese colony of East Timor, which lies at the eastern end of the Indonesian archipelago.

30:34 and which had proclaimed its independence after Portugal relinquished its control. It was the beginning of a massacre that continued into the 90s. By 1989, Amnesty International estimated the Indonesian troops, with the aim of forcibly annexing East Timor, had killed over 200 people out of a population of between 600 and 700,000.

31:03 The level of atrocity was often on par with what was carried out against the PKI in Indonesia. Well, I should say the suspected PKI, because no one was ever confirmed to belong to it. The invasion in December 1975, of which the New York Times says, quote, by any definition, Indonesia is guilty of naked aggression, unquote.

31:30 was launched the day after U.S. President Gerald Ford and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger left Indonesia following a meeting with President Suharto, which many people believe was the go-ahead for him to launch the invasion. So by December 1975, an intelligence dispatch to Washington reported that, quote,

31:59 have decided that the only solution to the Portuguese Timor situation is for Indonesia to launch an open offensive against Fritlan, the East Timor resistance movement, unquote. But it was essential to neutralize the U.S. for the Indonesian army relied heavily on the U.S. arms, which under our law could not be used for aggression. As it happened,

32:26 President Gerald Ford, on his way to Indonesia for a state visit, the intelligence report forewarned that Sukarta would bring up a Timor issue and would try and elicit a sympathetic attitude. Sukarta succeeded. The fact that Sukarta conceded is confirmed by Ford himself. The U.S. had suffered a devastating setback in Vietnam, leaving Indonesia as the most important American ally in the area.

32:56 The U.S. natural interest, Ford concluded, had to be on the side of Indonesia. Ford gave his approval December 6, 1975. Five days after the invasion, the U.S. voted to condemn the attack as an act of international aggression. The U.S. abstained from voting at the U.N. Security Council. Throughout the late 1970s,

33:24 and 80s, the U.S. State Department officials in statement to the press and the testimony before Congress consistently supported Indonesia's claim to East Timor, unlike the U.N. nation and the European community, which did not recognize it, and downplayed the slaughter to a remarkable extent. Meanwhile, the omnipresent American military advisors, the training, the weapons, the helicopter gunships, and all the other instruments

33:52 to efficiently modern counterinsurgency warfare were kept flowing into the hands of the Indonesian military. This may not be all, but Friedland reported a number of occasions that American advisors were directing and even participating in the combat. And we're going to go into more detail on that part tomorrow. But that gives you basically a rough overview.

34:21 Of our involvement in Indonesia and East Timor. And I will probably cut those into two parts. We will talk tomorrow about Indonesia. That may roll over into Monday. And then we'll do East Timor as a separate. Because it does have some unique aspects to it as well. But anyway. Just another.

34:52 notch in the road um what is like rolling coup around the world um that our cia has been up to let me bring um bridget up as the co-host um cousin it yep i'm gonna have a coughing fit hang on well i timed that perfectly right

35:22 It's like you're the hostess or, you know, the waitress in the restaurant and they come up as your mouth is full to see if you need anything else. Every single time. Absolutely. So I did miss the beginning of this. I apologize. Did we talk about the gold yet? Sorry about the absence. Yes, I did. Okay. I let off with that. Did we talk about how Indonesia was quite possibly King Solomon's mines and how UNESCO happens to have a site there?

35:52 Happens to be mines, but they call them coal mines. And the two cargo ships of gold that was being sent to the Federal Reserve by Sukarno, that right after JFK was assassinated, disappeared to Zurich, and still has not reappeared to Indonesia. No, I didn't mention that part. Oh, surprise. Yeah.

36:24 For those who aren't aware, Soekarno and JFK were actually in the process of going to... Right. So right after Soekarno spoke to JFK, JFK intended to visit. He also intended on having Indonesia as part of the world trade market. And Soekarno had loaded up two cargo ships of gold.

36:53 And the day that Kennedy was assassinated, those two ships were diverted by LBJ and went to Zurich instead. And to this day, nobody knows what happened to the gold. So it's been going on a long time. Yeah, it probably went to the same place that the rest of the goal went to fund Operation Gladio.

37:20 Yeah, and the Russian gold. Because they did that with the Russians on the gems and the gold and stuff like that. The Five Star Trust, Durham Trust. Yeah. So, yeah, pick one. Yeah. Agreed. Also, I want to open it up for anybody that had any leftover comments from yesterday that I had to cut off prematurely because I had to run.

37:51 Any of you guys, please request a mic if you want to come back up and you are free to talk about what we talked about yesterday as well. If you had any leftover comments from that, go ahead and please repost the space out if you haven't done so to help us get some eyes on this. I'd appreciate that as well. And SR71, thank you very much for posting.

38:21 the information that you posted. I appreciate that. He's quite the handyman, isn't he? He is. Absolutely. I'm afraid you're going to have to throw me the co-host invite again. I lost found and had to come out and come back in. Okay. She's the needy one today. Yes, I see that. Oh my gosh. And Sunshine, I love your meme.

38:52 She has Trump with binoculars and it says in the binocular lenses that you're looking at Operation Gladio. That's killer looking. That's hilarious. I don't. Oh, you know, I actually passed a billboard on my way back today that said make groceries 2020 again. Trump 2024. Big billboard. I thought that was awesome. That's hilarious. Yep. Very cool.

39:31 Yeah, and the one with the cat on it that eat more. I mean, they are really getting funny. I was dying. So did you see the one that I posted about Alf? And I don't know if you guys ever watched Alf, but yeah, obviously he loved eating cats. That was kind of one of the running jokes in the whole show. My husband found it on Facebook, so I had to post it.

39:58 It's him on the telephone wanting a ticket to Springfield. Yeah. What's an ALF? Huh? What's an ALF? ALF? A-L-F. ALF. And I think at the time, during the show, it was to stand for alien life form. If I'm remembering it right. Not to show my geek age, but okay. Illegal alien life form? Yeah. It was just funny. Don't overthink it. It was just funny.

40:37 I put it up on top so everybody can find it right away. I'm not overthinking it. I just don't get it. Oh, my gosh. All right. Go ahead, SR71. Thank you, Colonel. I guess you have to watch the show, Alf, to get it. I guess. I did watch the show, Alf. I thought it was one of the funniest series on TV way back when. When I saw you post that, that was another one of those.

41:04 Yep, there's an inside joke, and I'm telling my age. Yeah, exactly. But anyway, given what happened with the gold in Indonesia, you say that was diverted by LBJ? Well, the two ships, but the gold mine that...

41:28 They're there that they began that. And I can't remember if it was Rio Tinto, a company that had been bought by Rio Tinto, if my memory serves me right, that got the concession after they got Indonesia under Suharta. They did begin mining the gold with a foreign country, which, you know, is kind of the whole.

41:56 purpose of this from an international syndicate perspective is to steal all these countries' resources under the governance of someone that they control that will basically give it away as long as you launder some of the money back to him. Given that, I'm also wondering, since Australia is awful damn close to where we're at, what was their involvement, if any? Well, interestingly enough, what I have found, especially going through the book that I'm going through about Nugent Hand, is

42:30 Australia had some, number one, they're way more corrupt than I ever imagined they were. But I don't know why I'm surprised by that because it was an island of prisoners at some point. But this stuff still amazes me. So, you know, that's where Rupert Murdoch came from. He owned basically a good chunk of the media down there. And they had a huge mafia.

42:57 down there. They grew all kinds of illegal drugs. They provided shipping for the drugs out of Vietnam. So they're big time into this whole racket. And not coincidentally, one of the biggest outside the United States satellite tracking is Pine Gap, which is in Australia as well. It's a CIA facility and it's huge.

43:28 So if you take it in its entire context, it's not surprising that in every one of these operations, you will find some small contingent of Australian, basically special forces guys. So they work hand in hand with this entire infrastructure.

43:53 which again, they're still considered a satellite of the UK, as is Canada. And you find Canada in all these places too. As a matter of fact, the Canadian paramilitary special forces, whatever you want to call them, I can't remember their, they have a specific name. I just don't remember it off the top of my head. They were the ones that were in Kandahar guarding the basically palace of the governor of Kandahar.

44:23 where the torture chamber was. And they knew what was going on in there because people went in and they didn't come out. So apparently, all of these British satellite entities are involved in this whole thing. They just are in a much smaller footprint, so they don't get mentioned very often.

44:50 I was going to say that in the 70s, whoever the prime minister was of Australia, somehow or another, I'm trying to find the paperwork that when I did my research, this was years ago that I did it, and the ties to either Pfizer or Moderna, their prime minister pretty much sold them out and they're literally owned, it seems like, like corporate-wise, like paper-wise.

45:14 through drug pharmacies and things like that. They also, the mining, you guys mentioned Rio Tinto. There's a lot of mining companies that cross between Canada and Australia and within all, it seems like within the syndicate. Well, Australia has been robbed as well. And we did coup the prime minister down there as well.

45:42 We overthrew the government there. It's a kind of long, we've covered it before. Whitlam, basically, we set him up. So that's around that same timeframe. So, yeah, I mean, and what Australia did during COVID is probably the greatest example of a country being.

46:10 overran by big pharma. Um, they, I have a very good, um, a friend of mine that lives here. She was a professional tennis player in, um, she's now a citizen of the United States. Her son, when they, um, basically, uh, impose the no travel ban out of Australia or into Australia for that matter, her son was down there visiting, um, family.

46:37 And got stuck and held hostage. And he wouldn't take the vaccine. So they basically put him in one of those concentration camps. It was a horrific story. And he finally got back to the United States. But he was down there for like 18 months held hostage. They wouldn't let him out. So, yeah.

47:01 And then what they did to people as far as being able to, I mean, their centralized system made them, it forced them. And people usually have cross ties between, like I have friends that are contracted through like this, I guess, I guess their state or city to through the, they had a lot of receivables from the government and were forced to have to vaccinate and all their employees for them to get their 30, 60, 90 days past, you know, past due receivables and stuff.

47:30 It was horrific what they did over there. Yeah. Go ahead, Bridget. As I recall, and I'm 99.9% positive, Canada did the same thing. Right after COVID lockdown, they had assembled the equivalent of a conscience pricing stamp and had annexed in certain hotels and people who were coming in that would refuse.

48:02 To do the PCR tests and everything, they were essentially sticking them in these concentration camps because it made such a big impact on the news that it just are on the. Well, they were putting them. Yeah, they were putting them, but they did it for like a two week. If they wouldn't take the vaccine or whatever, they took them. They put them in like for two weeks so that they could like, you know.

48:29 um, monitor them or whatever for symptoms or whatever. It wasn't like 18 months, like Australia, Australia went over the deep end. Right. Right. Oh, and Shannon, thank you very much for posting that Rio Tinto mining corporation in Indonesia. Um, so yeah, I appreciate you finding that for me. Um, yep. Awesome job. Um, go ahead. Yes, we do. Yep.

49:01 Go ahead, Benjamin. Hi, ladies. For me, Australia, that was really scary. When you talk about playbooks and everything like that, in order to do something, you have to try it out. And that's exactly what they did in Australia. I don't know if everybody saw the videos of people walking through the park in Australia. It was like this.

49:29 it was like being in the twilight zone. Like you got people walking around and cops are just following you around and eyeballing you. And it's like, if you take your mask off, they're tackling you and stuff. It's like, they, they couldn't defend themselves. So like they, they, you know, and then like you all said, Cam's doing a bunch of the same things, you know, like the QR codes in order to get into buildings. Like you couldn't go into the grocery store without a QR code. And it's,

49:57 just ridiculous and mind boggling that some total stranger can be like, you know what? Nobody's allowed to go into a grocery store unless you get this vaccine and all the 300 boosters that go along with it. And it's like, if you get into, you know, like viruses and stuff like that, if you contract the flu, for instance, since that's something, you know, we all know and understand a little like the flu mutates there, like.

50:25 People just don't realize how many different mutations there are of the flu all over the world. You know, it's like that's why when I went to boot camp, I got so sick at the beginning. Everybody gets so sick because, you know, you're coming into contact with viruses that you've never come into contact with. Or, you know, it's mutated so much, you know, it's been a while. Like, that's why everybody gets sick, you know.

50:48 What they were doing in Australia, like you were saying how the kid got locked up and they put you in these camps, like you couldn't even step off your porch. They were on you like you got to get back in your your hole. You know, that's that's what they were going to bring here. And it's like this isn't normal times. Yeah, no, that that's exactly right. It got crazy. And I'm on a Zoom call once a week with that has two Australians that.

51:17 are on there generally all the time. And one guy, they have an amazing sense of humor, but one guy, he basically got divorced, not literally divorced, but his family basically divorced him. His kids, his wife, they all immediately ran out and got the vaccine. He kept telling them that not to do it.

51:47 They they just like disowned him. They didn't want to have anything to do with them. They he was making their life too difficult. Why didn't he just go along? And of course, now they all realize that he was right and they were all wrong. But it doesn't help him, you know, because now it's like this big, ugly thing in the middle of their family.

52:14 Because he stood his ground and said, I'm not going anywhere. He couldn't go to his kid's graduation because he didn't have a vaccine. It just was crazy listening to some of this guy's stories of what happened to those people. And not that it didn't happen here, because it certainly did. But I don't think there could have been a bigger wake-up call for people.

52:43 to realize these people are fascist and they'll do anything to kill you. So again, I want to make the invitation. I know a lot more people have come in. If you guys had something from yesterday and you had your hand up, please ask for a mic. Feel free to come up and anything that you wanted to talk about yesterday that we didn't get to because I had to run. We certainly can do that.

53:19 Anyway, go ahead. They never should have locked us up or locked us down because when they did, I don't know about you all, it gave me an awful lot of extra time to research. Well, yeah, and I think it woke up all the veterans to the medical tyranny of what they had done to us.

53:47 Most of us kind of knew in the back of our mind, but it is something that you can rationalize to yourself until you're smacked over the head with a two by four. And that's basically what COVID was. And once you are smacked over the head with a two by four, you can't ever not see it again. Go ahead, Benjamin. Well, like I talk about.

54:18 things not being obvious, you know, things aren't apparent in this world. Right. So like I tell people all the time, like I'm a trickster. I play tricks on people all the time. Like I have a very good understanding of what people see and what people don't see in many different levels and degrees. You know, like when when it comes to religious exemptions, those are there.

54:41 To prevent the government from being able to do anything like that to you, to be able to force you from doing that. But what it's all how something's packaged, how it's sold. You know, that's why they packaged it the way they did. And they inferred that you had no choice or basically like, hey, you submit this religious exemption and that's still not going to stop us from doing whatever we want to do. And it's like just the religious exemption like.

55:09 just the thought of like, I worked for a corporation. I was a fortune 100. I was the logistics guy in charge. You know, I was the number three at my site, you know, and the thought of having to send off a religious exemption to four or five people over in corporate who have no idea who I am, who have no idea who my God is. Bye baby doll. Hey, try hard. I'm on a space. Yeah. Sorry.

55:39 Yeah, family going on. But yeah, like they weren't allowed to do that stuff to us and they and they were going to do it like it was a military type operation that they were pulling on everybody, you know, and that's the thing. Evil people will will hell was.

55:56 was paved with great intentions or good intentions you know it's like how they package the whole lgbtq movement you know and made it all fun you know like this is the neat thing to do for all these kids you know like how they packaged it i mean taking a step back and looking at it now it's like wow you guys are really know what you're doing you know and that's the scary part that's why it's like

56:20 I love talking about the colonel and the types of things that she says because she brings people up to the degree of like, hey, this stuff is really serious. You know, we talk about learning from our history. You know, if you don't learn from your history, you're going to repeat the same mistakes. Things that colonels breaking out is like this stuff keeps happening and nobody held accountable. And it's.

56:42 Like right now is the point in time. That's why this isn't normal party politics. And that's how it was projected out into the world for a long time. And it's like it could have been really bad. Yeah. Yeah. Bridget, go ahead. And it still is. Don't think this is over because, you know, I went I threw my back out and yesterday had to go see. I see a massage therapist and a chiropractor.

57:12 separately to try and get my back when it does go out because of a 30-year-old injury. But the long story short, she began to tell me about how her public school system still requires not just all of the children to be up to date on vaccines, but that includes the COVID vaccine still to this day.

57:41 She lives out in the middle of nowhere. This is a nowhere town in the middle of Missouri, which is an extremely Republican area. And that's why we try and push that this is not a Republican or Democrat. This is right and wrong. This is evil and not evil. This is good versus evil. It truly is, and they are not going to stop.

58:09 Until we take it back from them. And I think it was actually RFK early on that said, if you give the government any power, you will have to fight to the death to get it wrestled back from them. And I saw that so clearly yesterday as she began to, in tears, tell me about how she had to get her children vaccinated. Yeah, no, you don't.

58:39 Because you can claim a religious... She tried. Yeah. Well, I don't want to accept it. No, I agree. I agree. I mean, homeschooling is the better answer. But yeah, it's just horrific that public school system is still requiring it. And again, we're not a split state. We are a solid Republican state that is supposedly free.

59:08 So in Florida, you know, our Surgeon General spoke out about that and supposedly that's not required. But, you know, it's still on the shot record that they hand out. And my daughter, as you guys know, just had a baby. She gets this postcard that has like this fold out from the state saying, hey, congratulations. Here's a list of resources as a new mom. Do you know when you fold the fold out over?

59:36 It's all of the recommended shots with COVID on there. Absolutely. And that's why I say you're going to have to fight this. I mean, we're not done with it. So it's not mandatory. Yeah, it's not mandatory in Florida. But if you go into a pediatrician, it is still on the list of recommended shots. It's never been removed.

1:00:06 It is on every piece of paper. So the medical form that comes out from the schools says that if you are like poor and you can't take your kid to a doctor.

1:00:23 the whatever traveling medical thing that comes around. Here's the recommended shots. If you don't send this back in signing that you don't want your child to receive a particular shot, but they're part of the like Medicaid program, COVID is still listed on there to get.

1:00:46 And this is in a state where the Surgeon General has already said that it's not recommended for anybody under the age of 18. That's because DeSantis is a lying piece of crap. Well, I can't say she's wrong. I have a question because I just went into the CDC and then the fine law stuff. And according to what they're saying is Missouri does have the exemption.

1:01:16 um, through state law for religious, philosophical and medical. So how can someone, I mean, they're saying that they have, right. Yeah. So how, how are they forcing this or how are the schools? I mean, Missouri has more, um, exemptions supposedly than even Nevada. And I know that people here are diverting it. So how, how is it the governors? Is that how it works or legislature? It's the education, the board of education, the,

1:01:46 Missouri Board of Education. And that's when you have to, in order for her to win this, she's going to have to fight them in the court. Now she'll win, but she doesn't have the money to fight them in court. And most people in this area are just like, screw it, we'll homeschool the kids. In her case, that's not possible. So she actually applied for an exemption and was turned down? Yes. Yes, that is correct.

1:02:14 I would get a bunch of, if she's having these issues, there's other parents that are having the same issues, find out who the others are, find an attorney and do a class action lawsuit. And if you have more people doing it, then the state will bend. But I would get like-minded parents involved through the schools and get a class action lawsuit. There will be attorneys that do it because they'll get money on the back end of it.

1:02:39 Right. And that's what I'm I'm right now trying to kind of counsel her. She was just devastated. She's just because actually her child was even injured from a vaccine. Her oldest is like 13 from the it's like M.M. something vaccine when he was M.M.R. Mums, measles and rubella. Yeah, he was injured and they almost lost him. And even with that, they will not and the doctors will not.

1:03:10 give her an exemption on these vaccines. Because after she tried the religious exemption and they were turned away and said that was not good enough, she tried to go to her physician and the physician said, no, I won't write it. So yeah, it's still, it's just showed me how it's still a battlefield. We're still in the battlefield because it's not legal for these people to do this.

1:03:37 But they're doing it anyway until someone challenges them in court. Yeah, that's crazy. Hey, Tara, did you have a question? I show her as a listener. Is she a speaker? Oh, I thought she was a speaker. Never mind. My bad. No, I show her as a speaker. Tara, did you want to say something? I guess not. That's okay. But yeah, boy, I tell you what, the space yesterday was.

1:04:24 Really incredible. And I appreciate you sharing your personal experience with us on that. Speaking of that, let me pull something up here because it's going to take me a minute. Somebody DM'd me a reminder.

1:04:59 of one of the guys that I had met. I mean, I got to know really well when I was at the Pentagon because of where my ex, who was also in the Air Force, worked in the SecDef suite. And he was known as the mayor of the Pentagon. He'd been there forever. He knew everybody.

1:05:28 And we, I briefly talked about him. What I didn't know when I was talking about him yesterday was, and the guy, Mike Hobart is the one that sent the article to me, DM'd it to me. But within a few months of the 9-11 attack,

1:05:58 Doc Cook, which is what his name, his last name is Cook with an E at the end of it, but everybody called him Doc, D-O-C. He was killed in a car accident in Pennsylvania. And the only thing that I could find on the car accident was that it was very, very weird. And I was dumbfounded by that.

1:06:30 Especially when you realize that the guy that replaced him is totally international syndicate and was responsible for the renovation of the Pentagon, which that section that was attacked was the only section that had been renovated.

1:07:00 That whole thing is totally weird. So the guy they hire on to renovate the Pentagon gets the one section done that gets hit, and then Doc Cook is gone, and he gets Doc Cook's job in order to ensure that any security

1:07:31 um, information will never get revealed about 9-11. And so I, I shared that, um, during one of the holiday parties, um, when we first got there, so it was like mid nineties, um, they had this big elaborate sec def party every year. And, um, because my ex was on the sec step, sec def's personal staff, um, you were part of this and it's in the sec def suite. And, um,

1:08:00 Doc Cook really liked my ex. And so he took me and him down to one of the areas. I'm kind of just like on an informal tour because all of the people that directly support the SECDEF's office are all open and they're kind of, you know, there's like.

1:08:25 hors d'oeuvres and all of the things and drinks and stuff like that. So you can kind of just wander around the whole area. And it's one of the only times because it's a very secured place. It's one of the only times that it's open. And because I was on active duty as well in uniform, you know, they just let you roam around.

1:08:55 And but not by yourself. I mean, we were with Doc Cook. And so one of the places that he was kind of given, it was like the first year we were there. And so one of the places he kind of walked us through was this massive office that had all of these monitors. And I'd never seen anything like it because it was huge.

1:09:22 um there was probably i don't know a hundred monitors um and i'm looking at all of it i'm like oh shit that's the concourse because for those of you who've never been in the pentagon

1:09:36 There's an area called the concourse where all of the restaurants, the flower shop, the bank, that's all inside on the main level, just as you come in what used to be the subway. Now you have to get out of the subway outside of the Pentagon and walk into the Pentagon through security. Used to, before 9-11, from the subway, you just popped right up into...

1:10:02 the Pentagon. You still had security, but you just kind of walked right in from the subway. Now they don't let you do that. You have to walk around the building. So, and when you would come up to the top of the escalators there, you're in like a strip mall, all kinds of restaurants and amenities. So you don't ever really have to go out of the building while you're there. And so there were pictures, the monitors, security there.

1:10:32 Every single, like, I don't know, probably, I would guess, maybe six cameras along the top on all five sides spaced out so that you, and focused out so that you can see, you know, on the Potomac River side, you can see the other side, you could see.

1:10:57 The river, you can see all of the interstates around it, 395, all of the 495, all of the roadways around it for security reasons. And there's a slew of people sitting in there watching these monitors, watching the people come and go and that type of thing. And not one single one of those security films was ever released. That's bullshit.

1:11:25 I know they exist. I saw them. Like, not the film, obviously. But I know they had cameras on the outside of the building. And all we get is some stupid-ass thing from the side over here by an entrance to a parking lot that's, you know, way away from the building. That's just bullshit. SR-71, go ahead.

1:11:53 I'm just curious, Colonel, since you did get the opportunity to tour that place, how many people do they have on staff there? In the SecDef suite? I have to sit here and think a lot more people saw what was going on than just a handful of people. So, I don't know, are you asking how many people worked in that security area or in the SecDef suite or in the Pentagon?

1:12:26 In that security area where all the monitors were at. Well, now, I don't know how many is on duty at one time because, again, this was a party. There were people sitting at monitors while I was in there, but I don't know if that represented a normal shift. I would have said there's probably 15 or 20 of them in there. But, again, I couldn't say for sure that there was more.

1:12:56 places to sit in there um so that could have been a scaled down version and normally more um i i don't know um but i know like in um where he worked um my ex worked in a thing for the first four years he was there he worked in the sec def suite for six years the first four years he worked in a thing called cables which is basically their communication center

1:13:26 So anytime the SecDef travels or when he's at home, there is a particular process in order to communicate securely anywhere in the world. And there is aircraft that he has to fly on because he's in the chain of command that has to have communications.

1:13:55 Cables was, they work for Doc Cook, and the cables section is the people that, or were the people that facilitated that. They had special equipment they were trained on to connect the SecDef with whoever, the president, whatever. And there's particular processes that have to go on for verification checks and all this other stuff.

1:14:24 And when he wasn't traveling, what their job was basically is there's a slew of classified communications called cables that go not only from embassies, but, you know, the combatant commanders and all of this stuff. So they had another communication program that electronically stored all of those cables.

1:14:54 And every day they were given a list of key things to search on and basically, you know, whatever would be in the news.

1:15:07 There was a particular officer that gave them the search criteria for that morning to produce a file that was then provided to the military assistant for the deputy secretary of defense and the secretary of defense. And that read file would be produced in order to do, you know, like preparation for whatever.

1:15:33 was coming up on the schedule. So if they had like a big meeting where his counterpart from, I don't know, the UK was coming over for a meeting, then whatever was on their kind of short list, if they had an issue with say France or they had an issue with Australia or whatever.

1:15:56 Australia would be a key word, and then they would add some qualifiers to that. So if it's anything like Pine Gap, if there was an issue with Pine Gap, that that would be something they would search on. And anybody that talked about Pine Gap in any shape or form in these cables would then be downloaded, printed out, and put in this read file for the SecDef's military assist. So, I mean, obviously there's lots of interaction and communications when...

1:16:26 that type of thing is going on. And then obviously the significance of being the communication link to hook up the aircraft with ground stations in whatever way they do it. And I have no idea because it was all classified how they did it. I just know what he did. So it was, it was a crazy job, but lots of very interesting things that you learn over the course.

1:16:57 of, um, him doing that job about just the world in, in general and how it operates. I know, um, when the whole Bosnia, um, thing blew up and, um, Holbrook was over there trying to negotiate, um, a settlement that, um, and now I find out that that whole thing was a gladio event. It's kind of irony of all ironies, but, um, when that was going on,

1:17:27 When he went over there for the peace summit, no one would agree to the terms. And so his aircraft takes off. He's on his way back. And he's over there for the White House. So the White House has a communications section just like the sectives. And the White House, because Holbrooke was over there under their purview, was trying – they found out that the parties after the aircraft took off was –

1:17:56 willing to then sign the peace agreement. So they're trying to get a hold of Holbrooke, but their senior comm guy at the time was fairly new at the White House and Army. And so he called my ex, who happened to be on duty at the SecDef office, because it was like nine o'clock at night, and asked him if he could get a hold of the aircraft.

1:18:22 To be able to communicate with them to turn around. And he did. They landed for fuel. I think like in Paris or someplace. And they were able to get a hold of the crew. They got the aircraft turned around. And got it back over there. And signed the whole peace accord thing. But that's the kind of stuff that they dealt with. Pretty much on a daily basis. And knowing all of the stuff that I just saw.

1:18:49 by going up there and being around those people, it's not even fathomable that you could have something like that happen and there be no evidence of it. Because I know the security systems that they had in the SecDef suite. There's no way that they didn't know what was going on. Benjamin, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel.

1:19:18 You're probably going to hear my little ones in the background. I've ran quite a few ops in my career. When we're doing planning for an operation, we're trying to take as many variables or possibilities out of the situation. We want to control all the controllables. If you're wanting to hide something like this...

1:19:48 You know, if you're wanting to hide something like this, sorry, then you just control the controllables. You know, you know, the pieces on the board that you've got to take advantage of. Colonel was talking about all those cameras all around the Pentagon. If you already know where the cameras are, you just have to put your people in place and then have them do what they do. Yeah. So you can't. And that's kind of where I left it. They were either taken down.

1:20:19 So that they weren't recording on purpose or they recorded and never released. One of the two. Somebody knows something. And maybe like Doc Cook, they all ended up dead. I don't know. Stellar, go ahead. Well, that one video that I had tagged yesterday and put on the bottom of the pill when you were doing your talk yesterday.

1:20:46 He went through years, Tom Fitton went through years and years of suing and getting access to just that one camera. So more than likely, it's probably the second part of it because they always keep the records somewhere. You know, it's just like the Vatican keeps track of all of the gold and, you know, they keep meticulous records. That's one thing with the Deep State. And then the other part, I'm trying to find it on my wall, but because of what you were talking about yesterday and just brought it up today, Pine Gap, there was a decode from Back to the Future.

1:21:15 where they were forecasting this stuff. And literally they talked about Pine Gap. I'm going to find it. And I thought I tagged you guys in it, but it was interesting. So yeah, I've learned a lot about Pine Gap. What's interesting to me is it basically uses, just from the little bit that I've been able to learn, it uses a lot of the classified programs that was being developed in the...

1:21:45 early and mid 80s, when I got to Los Angeles Air Force Base, those programs were at the tail end of development and were being fielded and were classified. And it does look like a lot of that satellite classified programs did end up going to Pine Gap as far as what they use there.

1:22:14 And what's interesting, and it correlates timing-wise perfectly to what the USS Liberty was doing, if you look at a world map of where Australia is, and I'm going to pull it up real quick while I'm talking. So if you look at where Australia is, and they told us in one of the

1:22:43 videos that I watched about the Liberty that they usually were off the coast of Africa. That they went up and down the coast of Africa. Well, look at that. Australia is right there on the other side of the Indian Ocean from Africa.

1:23:12 If they're going up and down the coast, and their ship at that time was a SIGINT reconnaissance ship. Now, all of those classified satellite programs that basically got fielded in Australia at Pine Gap, one of the most significant ones that were put there had to do with...

1:23:42 navigational GPS capability for maritime. And if you wanted to be able to figure out if your capability could track a moving vehicle, what better vehicle would you choose other than a ship in order to test that concept? And it just so happens

1:24:13 that the Liberty, and that's why I wanted to talk to one of those guys that was on the Liberty. They just won't talk to me. Going up and down the coast of Africa with the communication systems that they had on there, they would have been able to correlate and triangulate the position to verify the accuracy of the satellite in order to hone in settings that would have been needed to be done at Pine Gap.

1:24:42 as they fielded that system. And so, to me, it makes perfect sense. And then you look at the timing of when we cooed Whitlam in Australia. What was his biggest contention? He wanted Pine Gap closed. He didn't want a foreign military on Australia in any way, shape, or form, especially...

1:25:12 a CIA spy contingency in Australia. And within making that known, it was no time lickety split. He's gone. So, SR-71? You talking about Pine Gap, just a side note here. There is a series on either Prime Time or Netflix actually called Pine Gap that goes into some detail about what this place is all about.

1:25:43 Anybody wants to watch it. Yeah, it will be. And thank you for bringing that up. Don't take this the wrong way, but understanding just like with everything that we've watched on Netflix or get the cliff notes for it's very limited hangout because they are part of the information control. So just.

1:26:11 take it with a grain of salt. Jeff, what you got? Good afternoon, Colonel. Seeing your title up top, the Indonesian, I thought about George H.W. Bush and Lolo Sotero, Barack Obama's stepdad, and how they loved each other from when he was a very young man. Go into more of that tomorrow. But I was

1:26:44 I'm just really disappointed today, Colonel, because I know how much you protect our troopers out in the field. And you don't disclose any information that will put them in any type of harm's way. And I appreciate all the history from way back when where a lot of those people are dead. That's fine. But I just, I can't go into detail because the case is open.

1:27:13 The people that I love most have been over in Asia, in the Middle East, for 20-something years. And it's just a terrible, terrible, terrible position. And sometimes I lose my composure, Stellar. I don't mean to. But I'm just so disappointed in the poor leadership of our country. Really disappointed right now.

1:27:46 I just don't want to make any comments. We have to get Donald Trump in and we have to get control of our states. We have to clean out the rubbish. And that's us. We the people. And we have to do it in our country and our state first before we can go anywhere else and think of other countries. And they can do what they can do until we're able to do it. But until then, we have to do it.

1:28:09 I mean, we have to get so beyond activated. I was listening at Spaces this morning. People are literally hand doing their own signs and putting stuff up in their communities, using ladders to go up as high as they can on street posts and signs because that does not interfere with election integrity because it's we the people doing it and we need to do it all together and get our communities activated. That is the only way, only way we're going to do it.

1:28:35 The whole Republican Party. I mean, I'm Korean. Invade the Republican Party. That's what we do. It's not just leaving it up to someone else or complaining about it. We got to put our energy to fix it. Sitting behind and complaining about it is wasting energy when we could actually be doing something, whatever it is. And I'm half Korean. My mom's whole entire family is overseas. So trust me, I have a stake in it too.

1:29:05 New Mexico is a strange place. Let's focus on the United States. Let's focus on our states. I'm trying to talk to people about the Republican Party. I mean, I'm 10 minutes away from where they know. Are you active in your Republican Party? I am. I just went to the committee.

1:29:29 Perfect. Keep doing it. Bring your friends, bring your kids, bring everybody you can that thinks the way that we do. And we have to infiltrate it because we had a uniparty. I mean, do you see like the Cheney's? We knew that they're globalists, but do you see all of them jumping ship over to the Democrat Party? It's exposing that we have not been ran over a two part run or governed. We have been ruled.

1:29:56 by a uniparty and it's globalist against us. You know, we can think about Mexico, we can think about Russia, we can think about all that other stuff, but our borders are still wide open. Apparently, there's still schools enforcing a mandate and ignoring the law. Those are the things that we can fix. We cannot.

1:30:16 I mean, it's a waste of energy unless we can fix it ourselves, our boundaries, our borders, our cities, our states, our school districts, our governors, our secretary of states, our attorney generals statewide. Look at our state constitutions. Look at the legislatures within our state, that the state constitutions changed their power and it wasn't for us. That's where we can make a difference. And I'm sorry, I'm just so passionate about this. You have no idea.

1:30:45 that is what we have to focus on in my opinion and i was the point being is i was the i went to the committee meeting uh monday night and i that's the first time i went there and i've been a resident texas is my back texas where i'm from i live texas pretty much my whole life

1:31:10 You know what? I'll open up a space after this. Let's focus on Colonel Towner. I'll open a space and I will sit there. Every time you give me a roadblock, I will give you another idea. That's where we the people do it. We have to do it collectively. Let's leave this back to Colonel Towner, please. Thank you. Okay, Carrie, let's go. Hey, so I'm wondering if you know about John O'Neill, the FBI agent.

1:31:43 um, that died in the world trade center. Do you know about him? I've heard the name. I don't know that much about him. Well, he, um, he ran into trouble with the FBI because he was, I'll send you a date on him, but briefly he ran into trouble with the FBI because he, um, was a counterterrorism, um,

1:32:10 investigator and he knew about bin laden and he had told them look and um they blocked him and then he got fired from the fbi and conveniently placed as head of security at the world trade center and now he's dead interesting

1:32:38 I'm also trying to find, there was a gentleman that was on the USS Liberty. He was a survivor and apparently one of the generals that you were talking about had mentioned things to me, waited until after his passing. He's speaking now. So I'm going to try and find him and send that over to you so that you can hopefully, and I thought I tagged you. I can't find the stuff that I'm doing. It's like everything's getting erased.

1:33:08 I know that feeling. I'm getting super frustrated because these are things exactly what you talked about today. You know, you said you would love to be able to speak to and interview a survivor. And he is a survivor. And he waited till the general had passed before he was giving up this information. It was an incredible rumble. Bridget found five of them. And I contacted every one of them. And I even talked to one of them on the phone, the guy that lived on Pauley Island after their annual.

1:33:39 conference that they were in Washington, D.C. A couple of them emailed me. I emailed them. They emailed me in response and then nothing. And the same thing with this guy from Pauley Island. I sent him the link because I don't want to blindside them. I sent them the link to the show that I had done with Alpha. I honestly.

1:34:05 At this point, I think they think I know too much. And I think that they don't want to talk about like crypto AG. I want somebody to talk to me about that because that's how they knew all about what was going on in Egypt. I hear the one guy talking about how frustrating he is that the government hasn't ever recognized.

1:34:34 you know, what went, what happened and, um, that they feel like they've been cheated and nobody's, um, recognizing the, the sacrifice they made. And I agree 100% with him, but I'm, I'm willing to give them a voice and I have some very interesting information. I've never heard any of them talk about that relates to operation Gladio, um, and how that ties directly into.

1:35:04 I mean, that's what the entire freaking thing's about. So I don't know. I have no idea why they don't want to come talk to me. But it's not going to stop me from talking about it. That's for dang sure. But anyway, go ahead, Bridget. I'm going to speculate, okay? When we reached out to them was right before their anniversary.

1:35:36 And one of the things, having done extensive, extensive research on the USS Liberty, these guys were physically, mentally terrorized to stay quiet. And they did stay quiet for a lot of years. And it was right after that anniversary where they get together that all of a sudden it was like they didn't want to talk anymore.

1:36:11 And I'm going to speculate that something happened at that anniversary. No, Bridget, because he has been on at least three shows that I've seen since then. Yeah, but they're talking about the same scripted stuff. They let him talk, but they're not digging. If you listen to those interviews that they've given.

1:36:39 They're the same canned interviews that they've given to everyone else. Not that I'm discounting what they're saying. Don't get me wrong. No, I know. That's exactly right. Yeah, we're saying the same thing. Right. They're not expanding into any new territory. And I think they're still afraid. But that's just speculation, and I can speculate, you know, where they say opinions are like buttholes. Everybody's got one.

1:37:08 Yeah, I don't know what the deal is, but they're they're welcome to contact me at any time. I would love to talk with them. I'm still trying to get Chris that was in Benghazi to talk with me as well. Oh, yeah. I would love to talk to him, too. He did DM me back today. So who knows? I sent him my.

1:37:36 Warhamster Gladio intro thing, ask them to take a look at it. Because obviously I don't want to blindside anybody. I want them to know what it is that I've researched, what I've put together. And if they're interested in coming and talking to me, great. But there seems to be a lot of people that's not interested in it. So anyway, and I can understand why.

1:38:06 Do you think that maybe the deep state might have threatened these people and don't want them to be whistleblowers? Do you think that they're threatening their families or, you know, maybe because of the history and they've seen what's happened to other people that have tried to expose it? They seem to disappear or die or suicided or whatever. Do you think that maybe it's the fear of that or for their families? Maybe. I don't know. I don't know why it is. And I'm not going to put, I'm not going to speculate. I don't know. I don't know.

1:38:36 No idea. They just might not like the topic. I don't know. It may hit too close to home. I don't know. Because the very people that I want to talk to are the people that were in the thick of it. And if you're in the thick of it, there's one of two things. Either you didn't know and you probably feel bad that you didn't know. Or you knew and you feel bad that you knew and did it thinking it was the...

1:39:08 actual communist when it really wasn't so you were kind of tricked and that's not a good thing either um you know so i i could perfectly understand it i just wish one would talk to me um go ahead cousin it yeah um one of the things that i found that we talked about before is that when you start talking about operation gladio it's actually the veterans that get the angriest um about it

1:39:38 And I end up getting blocked by a lot of them because, you know, as you know, it's very hard when the pieces start getting put together and you realize what actually happened. And I can't imagine how they must feel about it, particularly ones that took people's lives, thinking that they were doing it for fucking democracy.

1:40:09 You know, I can't imagine that. And, you know, it's not a surprise that a lot of these guys don't want to talk. The guys on the Liberty, I mean, they know that they've been used. But I don't know if they really know to the extent that they were used, you know, and what the actual outcome was.

1:40:37 I don't think they do. I can't imagine that. I do think they do. I mean, if you've listened to, and I know you have, they do know. They do know. Yeah, LBJ wanted them some. Yeah, they know that. It's almost as if they don't want to know anything new about it, though. You know what I mean? They don't want to. I don't know. I don't know.

1:41:06 You know, I don't know. I'm not trying to get like overly psychological about it, but when you find out that the president, you know, pretty much gave the orders to, to murder you. Yeah. You know, like at what point does your brain just shut off and say, okay, that's it. I quit. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I don't know. And then the government backing it all up and the pharmaceutical companies, it's like at some point it's like, wait, they're not for us. They're really, truly against us.

1:41:35 That's what's so shocking. Really shocking. Oh, yeah. I mean, yes. Yes. And the fact that RFK is going to be involved with getting after their asses, if that actually comes to fruition and nobody's just like blowing smoke up our skirts, that's going to be huge. That is going to be huge. Yeah. So anyway.

1:42:04 And this all does tie into Operation Glado, in my opinion. I mean, I think that like all of this stuff, I mean, maybe I am a complete conspiracy theorist, but I think anything that's been negative over the last 200 years is Operation Glado, stay behind, whatever, whatever it was called beforehand. That's just, you know, since World War II, in my opinion. But there was another name for it prior to that. And it's always been around. And that's what's so shocking is.

1:42:30 You know, this whole thing is all connected all together all over the world. It's just mind-blowing. Yeah. There's always been greed. There's always been the desire for control. So, you know, as you said the other day from the Garden of Eden on, we're going to take our apple of post-World War II.

1:42:58 which is kind of what we're concentrating on. And, you know, it's within our lifetimes and our parents' lifetime, which is what, to me, the critical aspect of it is so that it's relatable. We've done a few things that, you know, carry it back, like talking about Hawaii and stuff like that and the Philippines the first go-round. But I think it becomes more relatable if you isolate it and you teach that concept.

1:43:27 Because like you said, Stellar, you can then go back and attribute it or look at that model that does precede World War II as having occurred. So that you know that it's been around. But to me, the critical part after World War II was housing it in government. You know, having civilians out there.

1:43:57 seeking control over resources and doing it in very unethical ways is one thing. But taking that entire thing to include the mafia element of it, the drug trafficking element of it, all of that and housing it in a government and under the auspices of a quote-unquote intel agency and then using that intel that you do gain to hide the shit from us.

1:44:24 That takes it to a level that has never been done before. And that's what I find the most unique about Operation Gladio is the fact that they stuck the damn thing in the government. And for a significant part of it, we're paying for it. Since we became the central reserve currency or the world currency.

1:44:48 So 1944 is when the U.S. ended up becoming the strong arm. And it seems like these Operation Gladio things really went into play. Yeah. Just like you said. I mean, that's when by doing that, it, you know, made us the, you know, yeah, we're the currency thing, but it made us the military. And since the corporation has been installed back in, you know, 1871, the power has not been to the people. It's been who's ever been in control of the government.

1:45:15 And the monetary system, which ended up becoming the world reserve currency, which has then just wreaked havoc throughout the world. And it wasn't the people. It was this deep state international syndicate pieces of crap. Right. That'll lock it up today. We're going to hopefully close out Indonesia tomorrow. And then we'll be moving on to a couple of other areas in Asia after that.

1:45:47 thanks everybody for being here oh i just saw trump frog um but anyway stellar you go uh open your space and kick some butt he's not here anymore i don't see him so probably not he probably found another space to um do his stuff in it seems like every time and it's just it's like you know stop complaining about

1:46:11 Do the action. I mean, you guys are explaining so much and connecting dots and working so hard to educate us. And the only way that we're going to be doing anything is if we get involved ourselves. So I just thank you for all this knowledge from the Apple for Operation Gladio, in my opinion. And I just love you guys. You have no idea. Thank you. All right. He requested a mic. All right. I'm going to let him close us out. What did I miss?

1:46:46 For God's sake. Serious? Yeah, you're going to have to go back and listen. Okay. It was a good one. It was a good one. Hi, girl. Hi, Stella. Hi, Bridget. What's up, Twisted Sister from another Mr. Cousin It? How you doing? Sunshine and Unicorns, waiting to hear your melodious voice. Where the hell were you all day? Working. Taking care of business. All right.

1:47:22 Stellar was fun. She kicked some ass while you were gone, dear. She was a little feisty, huh? Yep, yep. It was very interesting. Well, I'll have to listen to it while I fall asleep before my space tonight. Okay, tell us about your space. What are you doing? Doing a space on Trump's sovereign wealth plan and the direction of where this country is going. Freeing us of the International Crime Syndicate.

1:47:52 which is the Federal Reserve Banking System. All right. And all the criminals that are involved with stealing generational wealth and enslaving people. So that's what we're going to talk about. What time is it? It's in a couple hours, 5 o'clock. Which is 8 o'clock our time. 8 o'clock's not past my bedtime. Then come on in. You're a grandma now. You're a grandma now. You've got to save your energy. I have plenty of energy.

1:48:24 Come on in for sure. I'm going through my, what's that crap called? Cleation? Whatever that crap is. You're chelating. Chelation. Chelation. I love it. I love it. Get rid of those heavy metals. They did the second one today. Holy shit. Yeah, so.

1:48:53 I'll have all of my old energy back soon and no heavy metals. And cilantro oil will help maintain that. So cilantro oil, cilantro is actually a natural chelator, by the way, FYI. Well, that's interesting. Yeah, I agree with the no heavy metals. I have some growing in my hydroponic garden. Oh, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Are you growing the big nugs? Am I growing what?

1:49:24 The big nugs. I don't know what that is. Weed. No, I'm not. Well, you said hydroponic garden. So, of course, you know, as a former stoner. I'm trying to feed myself. I'm not growing. I'm saying as a former stoner. I was going to say she's growing dandelions and cilantro. She's doing the heavy or she's doing the natural good things. Marshmallow.

1:49:53 basil, Italian basil, all of that stuff. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. And I was going to say, I'm all, I'm, I'm, I'm for purging heavy metals. I, I'm more of a classic hip hop, R and B kind of jazz guy and gospel. So, you know, heavy metal for this guy. Hey, you can eat coriander seeds. If you don't like the taste of cilantro, you can eat the seed.

1:50:22 You can put it in your olives with olive oil. That's what they do in Turkey. I'll have to look into that. And then don't forget the lemon zest. Don't forget the lemon zest. Freeze your lemon zest and put it over your salads, and it will give you massive amounts of, it's for your immunity and stuff like that. Super, super, super good. Yeah, I have lemongrass. Oh, no, I meant like a lemon, like the citrus lemon. If you freeze the zest.

1:50:55 Yeah, I have a lemon tree and a lime tree. Yeah, so with the lemon zest, freeze the lemon zest, the outside parts of it, zest it. Put it in the freezer because it shocks it and it actually becomes even like five times more potent as far as helping your immune system as well. Cool. Wow. All right. Yeah, one of these days I'm going to do a video version of this and we're going to tour my garden.

1:51:26 that once I get it finished. Are you doing the copper gardens so that that way you get better yield too and your plants are a lot happier with the copper? No. Okay, I'm going to send you some information about that. You'll get more yields and grows faster and your plants are happier because of, it's just, I'll send you some stuff because I know you like the sauce.

1:51:54 Yeah, I tried that. All my shit done. Not your sweet potatoes. Now, hang on. That's not the whole story, isn't it? Oh, that's okay. I have lovely sweet potatoes growing in Amazon boxes. Otherwise, the rest of the thing just kind of up and died on me. Colonel, your garden will never be finished. No, I agree with you.

1:52:22 It will be finished as far as me building raised bed flower beds or garden beds and filling them up with dirt, though. It will be an ongoing process after that. I still have one more to put together and put dirt in and rearrange my flower pots, which are the entry to the garden. And I'm not going to wait on putting all the rock down. I will show you guys it before then.

1:52:53 It's crazy. What do you mean rock? I'm landscaping it after I get all of the raised flower beds put in. I thought you were talking about fraggle rock. I was going to say, come on now. No. You'll see. I've got like the ground cover down. Eventually I'm going to put rock over it. Like the pea gravel to make it look beachy. Because I want my garden to look cool too. And be productive at the same time.

1:53:25 That's awesome. But anyway. Sounds lovely. Yeah. Yeah. When I, oh, and you'll have to meet all my chickens too. We just got chickens. I want chickens so bad. You just need to have chickens. I can't believe you named the chickens. So I have five of them. I can't believe you named. You named them. I named all five of them after my mom and my aunts.

1:53:56 You don't name your dinner. Yeah, don't name your food. I'm not eating my chickens. I'm eating the eggs. So you're eating their kids. They're not fertilized. I am. What are you going to do when they stop laying? I don't know. They still eat the bugs. She's got to be. Yeah, see? There it is. Okay. Put them out to pasture. I don't know. That's exactly what I'll do. Yeah, rent a Haitian.

1:54:27 I'm sure we have some around here somewhere. Did you guys notice that the city of Springfield is firing all of the commissioners or whatever of the city? They're sick of this crap? Well, I heard that they were putting a petition together to recall them all. I think it's glorious. And then in Nevada.

1:54:47 And the GOP is suing all the Democrat stuff like the secretary of state, the AG and all of them to block the illegal aliens because there was one of the judges passed something that they could do it here. And so it's getting squashed now by the Trump campaign and the GOP. We're winning. Now they need to fire Laura Loomer and they'll be just fine. They got to get rid of her. They're killing him over her in the media.

1:55:19 Killing him. Did you see that? No. Can you hear him? No. Hold on a minute. They'll talk in the background. Go ahead, Dolphin. I was just going to say, the media is killing him because of her comments about Kamala Harris and her racist comments about her mother. It's like, she's, there are some people, I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene let her have it.

1:55:52 there's just too many people that are creating a lot of problems in his camp. I wish, you know, and I don't normally say that, but they got to get rid of her. So I, I heard, I saw the, um, uh, comment that she made calling Margaret Taylor green, a racist. I didn't hear about the rest of that. So can you tell us what happened? Yeah. She was saying stuff about, um, Kamala Harris's mother and her being Indian.

1:56:22 You can't hear me? Can you hear that chicken? Okay, let me drop you down golfing. Can you guys hear each other? Yes, they can hear each other. She wants to make sure he can hear the chicken. I love it. I hear dinner is what I'm hearing. I had to come out here and throw in some worms. Amen. Buffalo sauce. For some reason, they love these stupid dried worms. All I know is, yeah, she's been a liability.

1:56:57 I missed who you were talking about, actually, because there was interference. Laura Loomer. Oh, her. Oh, yeah. No, she's bad news. See? Hold on. See? Right? Hold on. Trump, let me put him down. I can't hear him now. Let me put him down and bring him back up because I want to hear this.

1:57:23 See, I knew she was busy screwing around with the chickens. Both Cousin Ed and Golfing totally have been pegging that woman from the beginning. I brought him back up. Right? Yeah. I told you that woman was absolutely no good. And she's an ugly drunk. Can you hear me now? Yes, I can hear you now. Go ahead. No, what I was saying is she's a liability. I don't know what her angle is, but she's...

1:57:53 Just saying stupid racist stuff and muddying the waters. And I don't know what her agenda is by doing it. Because we're too close to an election to create division. Yeah, that's really weird. Yeah, I don't know why she would say that stuff about. I'm no fan of Kamala Harris. I think she's a hooker. But, you know, saying stuff, racist stuff about her family and stuff like that is just so dumb. So they're saying that he's too close to her.

1:58:27 Yeah, I'll send you what I saw. Okay. You know, that's really interesting. Yeah, that's really interesting because she's the first one to start spouting off about how everyone's anti-Semitic for pointing out the Ashkenazis, right, and the Zionist Nazis. She's the first one to shoot her mouth off. She's a messiah. But she'll turn around and, yeah, absolutely.

1:58:52 Absolutely agree with that. And I said that right from the beginning. Thank you. There's a lot of them around, aren't there? They pretend that they're one way in the natural. Their agenda is they get activated after the fact. Okay, I don't know what that was. Somebody didn't like you saying that, cousinette. Oh, there's a shark. Surprise! People don't like the truth.

1:59:22 So anyway, yeah. And she's just getting caught stealing people's information too much and claiming it as her own. And it's happened a lot. Oh, yes. That chaps my ass. She did that to Brian, actually. She's been doing it for a long time. You know, it's not popular because people think, oh, she's MAGA. Sorry that she gets close to him, but some people we know that are kind of close, they don't like her. So I can tell you.

1:59:51 I'm not a fan. But anyway, I'm not telling people not to like her. I just wish Trump would separate himself from her for right now. Well, at the RNC, they were saying that he was doing all those, you know, that he was pointing at her or whatever. You know how he is. He likes to draw attention. Very, very interesting. All right, guys. I got to run. Got to go cook dinner. Y'all take care. Trump, Frog, I'll try to see you at 8 o'clock. That would be wonderful. All right.

2:00:31 Thanks for being here. See you guys at 4 o'clock tomorrow.

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Claims made here

William Black founded Killing Hope host_asserted ▶ 2:39

“on it. I'm going to start off with Killing Hope, William Bloom's book, and there's another professor from Australia that wrote a very interesting book. There's Stellar. I'm going to go ahead and bring…”

CIA carried_out_attack Vietnam book_quoted ▶ 3:08

“We went through a lot of trouble to get his book. He basically went and lived in Indonesia, ended up living in the house next door to where Barack Obama was raised in Indonesia, and did quite a bit of…”

Netherlands funded World Wildlife Fund host_asserted ▶ 5:09

“But they had not told anyone. They had sent secretively geologists all over the world. And they had all of these discoveries that had been made that they told no one about. And they were using this in…”

CIA attempted_coup_against Sukarno book_quoted ▶ 9:27

“They then went onto the air to announce that their actions were being taken to forestall a punch by the general council scheduled for Army Day the 5th of October. They said it had been sponsored by th…”

Suharto overthrew Sukarno book_quoted ▶ 11:27

“Before long, he was reduced to little more than a figurehead and carry out a bloodbath to eliminate once and for all the PKI with whom Sukarno had obliged to share national power for years. Here at la…”

Indonesian National Armed Forces assassinated Indonesian Communist Party book_quoted ▶ 11:27

CIA provided_bridge_financing_for Indonesian National Armed Forces documented ▶ 13:15

“25 years later, American diplomats disclosed that they had systematically compiled comprehensive lists of quote-unquote communist operatives from the top echelon down to the village cadre and turned o…”

Robert Martens member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 13:42

“which hunted these people down and killed them. The Americans would then check off the names off the list as having been killed or captured. Robert Martens, M-A-R-T-E-N-S, a former member of the U.S. …”

CIA covered_up Indonesian Communist Party book_quoted ▶ 15:41

“confirmed the CIA officers contributed in drawing up the death list, the CIA and Langley categorically denied any involvement in this. The massacre put on a horrific end to the well-organized PKI nati…”

Ben Ahmad Mudeha member_of Indonesian Communist Party book_quoted ▶ 19:00

“horror. But Sam could just as easily have been acting for the CIA, which most people believe he was, and the generals in the same manner. He apparently was a trusted aide of a man by the name of Adick…”

CIA trained Indonesian National Armed Forces book_quoted ▶ 23:01

“whose career spanned the CIA and State Department, noted that in 1963, quote, one-third of the Indonesian general staff had had some sort of training from American and almost half the officer corps. A…”

Netherlands ordered_assassination_of Sukarno book_quoted ▶ 28:38

“providing a legitimate and welcome opportunity to crush the communists and make Sukarno a prisoner of his own army. The ambassador's report was dated December 1964, which predates the actual coup by a…”

Vietnam carried_out_attack East Timor documented ▶ 30:03

“fires a single shot in the air, at which point all the young males must run to the center of the square before the soldier fires a second shot. Then everyone arriving late or not leaving his home is s…”

Gerald Ford funded Vietnam documented ▶ 32:56

“The U.S. natural interest, Ford concluded, had to be on the side of Indonesia. Ford gave his approval December 6, 1975. Five days after the invasion, the U.S. voted to condemn the attack as an act of …”

Rio Tinto mined Vietnam host_asserted ▶ 41:28

“They're there that they began that. And I can't remember if it was Rio Tinto, a company that had been bought by Rio Tinto, if my memory serves me right, that got the concession after they got Indonesi…”

Doc Cook worked_at Pentagon host_asserted ▶ 1:04:59

“of one of the guys that I had met. I mean, I got to know really well when I was at the Pentagon because of where my ex, who was also in the Air Force, worked in the SecDef suite. And he was known as t…”

Doc Cook headed Office of the Secretary of Defense host_asserted ▶ 1:07:00

“That whole thing is totally weird. So the guy they hire on to renovate the Pentagon gets the one section done that gets hit, and then Doc Cook is gone, and he gets Doc Cook's job in order to ensure th…”

Operation Gladio funded Bosnia peace negotiations host_asserted ▶ 1:16:57

“of, um, him doing that job about just the world in, in general and how it operates. I know, um, when the whole Bosnia, um, thing blew up and, um, Holbrook was over there trying to negotiate, um, a set…”

Richard Holbrooke carried_out_attack Bosnia peace negotiations host_asserted ▶ 1:16:57

Gough Whitlam removed_from_power Australia host_asserted ▶ 1:24:42

“as they fielded that system. And so, to me, it makes perfect sense. And then you look at the timing of when we cooed Whitlam in Australia. What was his biggest contention? He wanted Pine Gap closed. H…”

John O'Neill appointed World Trade Center caller_asserted ▶ 1:32:10

“investigator and he knew about bin laden and he had told them look and um they blocked him and then he got fired from the fbi and conveniently placed as head of security at the world trade center and …”

Operation Gladio carried_out_attack World War II host_asserted ▶ 1:42:04

“And this all does tie into Operation Glado, in my opinion. I mean, I think that like all of this stuff, I mean, maybe I am a complete conspiracy theorist, but I think anything that's been negative ove…”