Operation Gladio - Indonesia Part 4

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5:25 Let me see if I can go through StreamYard and just. And of course, I'm using a backup laptop here. So it's going to be even more awkward than trying to get this set up. Oh, my gosh. So I did want to let everybody know that tonight.

6:13 we're going to finish a conversation about the American Security Council. And I actually found out that part of, there is a significant overlap between the American Security Council and the World Anti-Communist League, which...

6:44 I have made the connection a long time ago that the World Anti-Communist League appeared to me to be a front for Operation Gladio coordination and planning. I'm about to come to the conclusion that it's...

7:14 actually much bigger than that. It's almost like the World Anti-Communist League rolled up a bunch of factions of fascism all over the world that had already been brewing under different subordinate entities.

7:45 So if you can imagine, if you wanted to put together a game plan, a war plan, and you had some like-minded people, but none of them organized, all over the world, and you wanted to utilize all of those different teams into one concerted effort.

8:14 But you didn't want anybody to know that you were actually at war with the rest of the world. That entity would look like the World Anti-Communist League. And it would incorporate the Japanese because they were fascist. It would incorporate the fascist elements of Italy under Mussolini.

8:44 It would incorporate the fascist elements of Portugal and Spain because they were both fascist at that point. It would incorporate the fascist elements of the Nazis. And to a lesser degree, the elements of all of those, because there was a corresponding piece of all of that in a whole bunch of other countries to include Chiang Kai-shek in.

9:15 China. So elements like that. And if you wanted to transition, as I've oftentimes said, from an overt war to a covert war and roll right into fascist international, i.e. World War III and never go home again from a wartime perspective, it would look like the World Anti-Communist League.

9:44 And you would come up with all of these NGOs, nonprofits, whatever you want to call them, that looks like the China lobby, the American Security Council, the National Endowment for Democracy, and all of these other euphemisms that sound really good to everybody, because who can't get behind?

10:13 anti-communism. But in essence, when you start digging down into not only the people that were part of these organizations, but the actual organizations themselves, they look a lot like World War III in a covert

10:44 Operation Gladio. And then you have to, I think I'm just going to record this and then I'll upload it afterwards. Let me just type the name of it in here. Okay. So I'm kind of amending my, I mean, it's still the same basic concept, but.

11:20 I'm kind of promoting the idea. I guess I'm elevating the role of the anti-communist league to a more prominent elevation, if that makes sense. I'm realizing it had a much more significant role other than just being kind of a.

11:53 covert way of hiding meetings around the world. I'm beginning to think it was much bigger than that. But anyway, I will keep you posted. That's what we're going to talk about tonight on. I'm going to meld the American Security Council conclusion into the World Anti-Communist League and kind of take off from there.

12:18 And I'm going to use it in a real world situation where we're going to run through several of the operations that we already know happened that we've been covering geographically and see how that works. So I had to download. I'm not recording. Screw it. This damn thing. Oh, technology drives me nuts. Okay.

12:54 So we left off with Dozie, the geologist, and Dr. Polgrain talking to Dozie. Well, and his office mate who came out and basically kind of saved him from the interview. We go back to Freeport, the mining company, and their explanation of how Forbes Wilson, who was a agent of the Rockefeller.

13:24 Freeport Sulfur Company, found out about the Gold Mountain. And it says the Freeport explanation of how he found out about it reads like an excellent mining tale, but lacks one important ingredient, any truth in it at all. Freeport officially became aware of the report in 1959. Any claim

13:52 that Rockefeller interests or persons in the Dutch government were already aware of the correct version of Dossi's gold discovery merely highlights the concerted policy of concealment. Yet Freeport persistently says they were not aware of the report before it was brought to their attention in 1959. The explanation that after Fidel Castro took control of Cuba in the same time frame,

14:22 Freeport Sulphur began searching for new nickel deposits because they got kicked out of Cuba. And ironically enough, when Cuba nationalized the nickel refinery, they put Shea Cavera in charge of it. I got a chuckle out of that. Freeport linked up with the Dutch company, East Borrero, whose director was...

14:51 Two people, Jan Van Gruzen and Theodore Baker, after a similar fate of nationalization by President Sukarno in Indonesia. So you got all of these out-of-work minors. This twist of fate caused Forbes Wilson to leak up again with a former Jan Van Gruzen. And basically, that's kind of how...

15:21 That's Freeport's story on how the whole thing happened. Freeport publications also claim that Dozie's report on the Gold Mountain in Indonesia was deposited in a library before the Nazis' invasion and simply remained there lost and forgotten when one of the Freeport representatives just so happened to find that report in 1959.

15:51 You know, as luck would have it. Even NATO Secretary General Lunds, during the early part of the interview, tried to claim that many files got completely lost during the war. Forbes Wilson's own account of how he first came in contact with Dozie is just a repeat of this widely circulated tale. Without adding any credibility to the story about finding by chance Dossie's lost paper, even George Mealy

16:18 the former president and chief operating officer of Freeport, added more detail, explaining that this company were looking for nickel prospects in Dutch New Guinea and that Van Grusen, a mining engineer, conducted a literature search and came across the report, you know, just sitting in a library somewhere. That classified report that nobody talked about, just sitting in a library somewhere. A mining engineer just,

16:50 happened to find it. Van Grusen had a mining friend in the U.S. whom he had known for years. They were working together on a couple of nickel projects, and this friend just happens to be Forbes Wilson, the chief explorer of Freeport sulfur. If either Freeport sulfur or the Dutch counterpart were seriously searching for nickel deposits,

17:18 You would think that they'd be out in the field actually looking for it, not in a library. But, you know, hey, that's too much logic. Also, what Freeport never explains in the story is that the Dutch director, Theodore Baker, lived just around the corner from Dozie. Their families were close friends. Their children grew up together.

17:49 Dozie's wife told me this when I returned for a second interview. Now, this is hilarious. Apparently, as soon as he left the first time that he went to their house to interview Dozie, Dozie walked around the corner to tell Baker everything that had happened in the interview. So when he comes back the second time, Dozie's wife.

18:17 who was not in the house for the first interview, so is completely clueless about anything that happened, tells this guy, Polgreen, that he had become so agitated after the interview, she asked Polgreen, when he stepped out of this interview, what he had said to him to piss her husband off.

18:46 So that's the first inkling that Polgreen knew that Baker lived around the corner from Dozie is because the wife asked him, what did you do to piss him off? He like stormed out of the house and ran around the corner. I just love it. So that's how he found out that there were long term links between Dozie and Baker. And that would be the explanation for.

19:16 Baker just so happened to find Dozie's report in order to then be aware of it, mine it, blah, blah, blah. So that I thought was absolutely hysterical. The author then talks a little bit about the difficulty in how they were going to basically mine the,

19:51 And they talk about having to, like in 1960, flying helicopters into the area, drilling and then sampling and building the infrastructure and blah, blah, blah. It's a long drawn out thing. But we're going to skip over the details of that part.

20:20 But the author did say he wanted to draw attention to a remarkable discrepancy between the figures of the original report and the figures that come back in the 70s when they're trying to figure out how they're going to do this drilling. And by the way, Bechtel was involved in some of the infrastructure that needed to be built.

20:51 in Indonesia for this mining project. So I found that interesting because we definitely know that Bechtel is part of the international syndicate. So Freeport official figures for the concentration of gold, because remember, this is going to be a consistent theme throughout all of this, is how much actual gold was in this mountain because they're lying about it. The official figures for the concentration of gold and silver are given as 0.025 ounces.

21:22 of gold per ton and 0.265 ounces of silver. This gold concentration is equivalent to 12 grams of gold per ton. In 1979, the Mining Annual Review, the Indonesian correspondent states the production figures for the previous year. This is a quote.

21:46 Most of Indonesia's gold and silver, in fact, is produced by a byproduct of the copper extraction of report Indonesia copper mine. No official production figures are reported, but the average gold and silver content of the copper concentrate indicates that some 2,000 kilograms of gold and 26 tons of silver. Forbes Wilson avoided stating outright any gold percentage figures.

22:16 In the report, quote, between December 1972, when the first token shipment of 10,000 tons of copper concentrate left for Japan, and the end of 1980, the mountain had produced nearly 23 million short tons of ore, from which we obtained 521 tons of copper, 6 million ounces of silver.

22:44 and 463,000 ounces of gold. These metals had a gross sales price of $772 million. From these figures of the gold-silver ratio of 1 to 13 contradicts the 2 to 1 ratio in the original analysis. Given this huge discrepancy, it is crucial to remind ourselves that Ford-Wilson detailed sampling

23:14 More than two decades after the discovery of the gold mountain, more than confirmed, Dozie's original finding of 15 grams per ton is shockingly at odds with Freeport's figures. Yet when the gold to silver 2 to 1 ratio is applied to the official Freeport silver concentration of 0.265 ounces, then the corrected estimate of gold production

23:43 resumes its original 15 grams per ton. This suggests that while the silver has not been removed from the slurry, gold has been removed before the slurry is pumped down to the pipeline for export. Not all gold, of course, but most of it. The gold left in the slurry was sufficient to come up with

24:13 But that's not all of it. The author says, I want to draw attention to Dozie's attention to the copper mine and gold ratios in Papua New Guinea. And there's a separate mine that's called OK Teddy Mine, which is close to the border between Papua New Guinea and Indonesia Papa.

24:45 So I pointed out that the OK Teddy, the initial gold mining stage, had a capacity of 12,000 tons of ore a day. And in this copper mine, a gold concentration of 2.86 grams per ton. Compared to the original mountain that Dozie found, OK Teddy was much less rich. At 15 grams per ton, the original mountain...

25:15 is, as you said, unusually rich. Now, these are quotes. Oh, forget those 15 grams per ton, Dozie said. But the Freeport figures, one to two grams rather than 15, are so different, the author replied during the interview. There's such a discrepancy. Dozie responds, it's not a discrepancy.

25:43 It's quite logical. You should never check those figures. They are long outdated. The author says the observed gold properly must be called electrum. But the rather deep yellow color indicates that the silver contained or content cannot be very high. Up to twice as much gold than silver.

26:10 The author said, and now Freeport claims that they mine 13 times more silver than gold. Yet this report says there is twice as much gold as silver. So this author is like ragging on him that he's lying and he came equipped with all of the reports to confront him.

26:35 Dozie responds, but it isn't. It is not. Oh, yes, there's more gold than silver. They get some silver, too. That is true. I forgot now exactly how much. There's a possible discrepancy, but I would forget what is in there. It's outdated. So the author comes back, but they did come to the same conclusion as you did. He then says, more or less, yeah, I don't know. I'm not investigating it.

27:05 So the author says, let's put it this way. If they came to a different conclusion, either you are wrong or they're wrong. Dozie responds, one thing I am certain about. I was wrong. The rest I don't know. To which the author responds, but they came to the same conclusion as you did. So you were both right, not wrong. The problem is this third group, Freeport, the mining company.

27:33 When they began mining, they described it very differently. Staring at us both was the conclusion that the gold was being removed before the official figures were being stated by Freeport. Dozie says, but the third group, they were the real chaps. They're out there doing it. The author says, when they had this discovery, 15 grams per ton, it certainly would have influenced them. Dozie says, that is correct.

28:06 It did interest them. Don't forget, it's not the ore content, but rather the gold content. The other factor Dozie neglected to mention was politics. With the advent of the turbine engine helicopters in the 1960s, the reach of technology made development of the mountain possible for Freeport, but not without the political reach of Alan Dulles. And so basically, the author...

28:35 has caught them lying by confronting them with their own data. He's lucky he's still alive. Because there's this guy whose name is G, and I don't know how you pronounce this. I'm going to spell it for you. Z-I-J-L-S-T-R-A. I'm going to call it Zylstra.

29:08 So a member of the Dutch government geological foundation, G. Gilstra, was such a person who foresaw the exploitation of this original mountain find could be of great benefit to the Papuan economy because of the gold-bearing copper. The foundation suffered from a lack of finances, however, and in 1958, the American company Freeport

29:37 joined the Dutch company to gain a mining permit for the mountain. This effectively blocked access for others such as the foundation. After the sovereignty dispute was ended and the signing of the New York Agreement in August of 1962, the Indonesian control of the territory was to start officially in May 1963. Just when the Freeport and Dutch

30:08 mining permit was set to expire. This is how they're going to push the Dutch out of the mining proceeds. So, for the last five years of Dutch control of the territory, during which there was a concerted campaign for many quarters to wrest control of the territory from the Dutch, all access for mining of exploration of the mountain was blocked by Freeport.

30:41 Nevertheless, the UN still maintained a presence according to the New York Agreement. Zylstra announced that he was going to continue mineral exploitation after the departure of the Dutch colonial government, working through a geological foundation, but acting under the authority of the UN. So he's going to stay involved. He intended to continue the work with the foundation up to the 1969.

31:11 when the Poppins had stipulated in an agreement that they would be in a place to decide under a free choice rather to accept or reject Indonesian rule. In other words, the continued work of the foundation posed a distinct threat to the other parties who wanted total control over the natural resources during the sovereignty dispute.

31:39 They didn't want any Dutch anybody in that area agitating. At least Alan Dulles didn't. Because, again, by blocking people's access to this, you then block information because there's no one there to say what you're saying is not true. This is huge. So this late chant for the Poppins to.

32:07 construct a viable industry as part of an independent economy was ended with the sudden death of Zylstra. Back in the Netherlands in 1962, with the intention of resuming in New Guinea in 1963, he and his wife attended a Christmas party. Upon returning home late in the evening on November 23, 1962,

32:36 Zylstra and his wife were crossing a narrow road when a very large truck came around the corner and basically ran the car over, killing the driver, but not his wife. So basically he was assassinated because they were not going to permit him to go to that area because they plan on stealing gold.

33:05 from these people and they can't have witnesses. Gorbrandi's plea in the 1950s not to let the territory fall in the hands of the enemy West in a plea for nationalism basically is dead at this point. Kennedy gained some insight into the extent that Dulles' covert operations in Indonesia when he requested a CIA briefing paper.

33:38 On President Sakarno's visit in 1961 to Washington, D.C., he was shocked by six years of political interference and funding of anti-governmental revolt and assassination. This included special mention of the CIA pilot Alan Lawrence Pope, apprehended by Indonesian authorities in 1958. He became a bargaining chip in the New Guinea dispute.

34:08 and was released at the same time as the New York Agreement in August 1962, when the Dutch relinquished sovereignty. Kennedy commented that Dulles' interference had cost the United States political credence in Indonesia, and that his priority was to repair the damage. The sheer size of the operation Dulles had mounted in 1958 was enough to convince any observer of the CIA's intentions.

34:37 Tallying in dollars, Indonesia was the next largest Vietnam, according to the CIA logistical operator in 1958, Colonel Fletcher Prouty. In personal correspondence, Prouty said, quote, Indonesia's campaign was the largest special operations the CIA endeavored except for Vietnam. And they blew that out of the water with Afghanistan.

35:05 Prouty said that Dulles had employed a vast number of operatives, utilized ships, planes, submarines, and even the Pacific Fleet. Much of the funding was on operations for the 1958 rebellion, but in addition, there were funding for radical Muslims and for assassination attempts on President Sukarno. The CIA briefing paper admitted to having identified assets capable of carrying out such attempts.

35:34 but they denied further involvement. In other words, it goes without saying they were not successful. In November 1957, hand grenades were thrown at Sukarno in a schoolyard in Jakarta. A Muslim extremist group known as Darul Islam was blamed. Sukarno avoided injury with only a second to spare when his aide-de-camp

36:02 pushed the president to the ground and used his own body to shield him. But six school children and three policemen were killed and hundreds wounded. That was courtesy of the CIA. Kennedy realized during the first year in office that much of the advice on Indonesia from Dulles was premised on the belief that Sukarno was part of the problem in Indonesia. Sukarno had to be stopped, according to Dulles.

36:32 because he permitted, if not promoted, communism. Indonesia's growing vulnerability to communism, according to Dulles, was part of Sukarno's global orientation. However, Ambassador Jones knew Sukarno personally and had a completely different opinion. His comment was, Sukarno is, after all, a warm, magnetic, responsive human being.

37:04 A personal relationship between the two presidents, once established, will lead to a greater U.S. impact on Sukarno's thinking and attitudes and could exert considerable influence on the course of events in Indonesia. Sukarno very, very much wanted to be accepted and approved by JFK. There was a lot of leeway and influence to be had.

37:33 not only by inviting Sukarno to the White House, but it reciprocating that. And that's exactly the policy that Kennedy decided to pursue. But that didn't fit in with Dulles' real bosses at the international syndicate's agenda. And that's the reason why all of this happened. The CIA, I will say it every time we go over one of these, does not work for the United States.

38:01 It works for the international syndicate. It works their agenda, not our agenda. And it plays out over and over again in all of these. Dulles was pursuing a regime change primarily to gain unobstructed access for his real bosses of Indonesia's natural resources. President Soekarno stood in his way.

38:33 Putting a stop to the Malaysian confrontation during the period of conflict that started in 1963 between Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta was an essential step for Kennedy, and this made his relationship with Soekarno and Ambassador Jones crucial. At the same time, it made Kennedy's relationship with Dulles untenable. While the legend was in the office at

39:03 the CIA, his anti-Sucarno stance was just one of several reasons for which Dulles would eventually be fired. Dulles still welded insurance after Kennedy fired him. His monument that was installed at the entrance of the new building was indicative of just how big of an influence he still remained.

39:32 The central role of Dulles in modern U.S. intelligence, from its inception of the CIA, probably there's no one else in the U.S. intelligence community that had a bigger influence. Kennedy's well-known words on Alan Dulles, quote, Dulles is a legendary figure and it's hard to operate with legendary figures, unquote.

40:05 The author then talks a little bit about Alan Dulles' background, about the fact that he joined John Foster Dulles at Sullivan and Cromwell, the part that he was at the U.S. Embassy in Vienna, that his uncle, Robert Lansing, was Secretary of State, his grandfather was, about his earlier service in the OSS.

40:37 And all of this is what makes him part of the legend. It talks about a couple of different incidents. I'll talk about one of them that had to do with clandestine intelligence while working at Sullivan and Cromwell. Because remember, this didn't all start with the CIA.

41:05 This all went on prior to the CIA. The beauty, from their perspective of standing up the CIA, gave them government protection from any and all laws. That was kind of the reason why they had to do it, because they'd been doing this for 100 years before World War II. The actual incident was another abduction and murder in 1930, but this time in Paris by the Soviet secret police.

41:35 A victim was an immigrant from the Russian Civil War. His name was Lieutenant General Pavel Kutapa, a former deputy of General Rangel, who was one of the four top commanders of the White Army that was defeated by the Bolshevik Red Army under Leon Trotsky. Rangel's name was one of the more familiar in the West because his father,

42:05 was the last Russian governor of Alaska before they sold it to the U.S. There's Wrangell Mountain and other things named after him in Alaska. But after the Bolsheviks defeated the Tsar, killed him, in October 1917, the White Army, with Western support, not very much, basically continued to fight.

42:34 And this is where we talked about the Bolshevik and Wall Street and how the fact that their whole plan was to overthrow the Tsar still as gold and then rush in with all of the industrial complex, having supported the Bolsheviks and exploit the resources throughout what became the Soviet Union. Because remember, we talked about the GE going in and electrifying all of Russia.

43:03 The railroad barons went in and built all the railroads in there. So they exploited, none of which the Tsar would allow them to do because the Tsar wanted all of those skills and resources used within the Russian empire. He wanted his people to learn how to be railroad builders. He wanted his people to be, he wanted the technology, but he wanted the industrial capability.

43:32 to be Russian, not from a foreign source. And of course, we know that's diabolically opposed to these exploiters. And so he had to go. And so even after the Bolsheviks had quote unquote won, there were a lot of holdouts and they were called white Russians. They were nationalists that fought along with, see if this sounds familiar, the white Russian army.

44:02 experts, fought along because they didn't know the Bolsheviks were going to institute communism, fought along with the communist Bolsheviks to overthrow the Tsar, thinking that they were going to have a nationalist-free country and not be subordinate to a royal family. Then, obviously, the West, who was funding the Bolsheviks, overran the White Army, subjugated them.

44:32 and instituted communism slash Bolshevism, which is what we are led to believe happened in China. It happened in Cuba. So again, another pattern, if you will. So Dulles first met Rangel, the Russian general, and Kutupov in Turkey, the location of a diplomatic posting after the Paris peace negotiations.

45:02 So Dulles left Paris and then went to work in Turkey. Allen and his wife Clover, whom he had married in Baltimore a month earlier, arrived in Constantinople in December 1920. During the previous few weeks, 150 starving Russian refugees had also just arrived across the Black Sea. Two-thirds of them were Rangel's army.

45:32 refugee camps were set up, both Alan and his wife, who had been involved in humanitarian assistance, became well acquainted with the generals. Dulles kept in contact throughout the next decade because he's an intel guy. During this time, Rangel had died, but Kutapov settled in Paris, as did 50,000 other white Russians. Many nobles and rich families who had escaped the Bolsheviks began moving to Germany.

46:02 but then were repulsed by the post-war instability and ended up in Paris. The Russians started two newspapers and many other cultural aspects of the Russian royalty was re-established in Paris. Dulles became a financial link for Kultapov to maintain the occasional acts of sabotage within the Soviet Union.

46:34 Although Dulles, in 1930, was an employee of Sullivan and Cromwell, he often hired out to the State Department. So both of his employers, both the State Department and Sullivan and Cromwell, might have contributed jointly to these clandestine counter-revolutionary operations. So Dulles was funneling money to a white Russian to go inside of the Soviet Union.

47:02 to destabilize it. That's basically what we just read. And the purpose that Alan Dulles would have in doing this is not necessarily because they were anti-Bolshevik, because they weren't, they had just funded it. They really wanted the intel as to what was happening inside of Russia. And so Sullivan and Cromwell and the State Department

47:29 are funneling money to Dulles in order to buy intelligence. That's what we just read. So at the time of Kutubov's abduction, so he gets kidnapped, Dulles had just arrived by ship from New York to spend one year in Paris at the office of Sullivan and Cromwell. The level of previous contact between Dulles and...

48:08 Kutubov strongly suggested that they intended to meet when he arrived in Paris and that the Soviet secret police, who probably knew he had been spying on them for the U.S., grabbed him. The abduction occurred on the very day Dulles arrived, which was kind of checkmate. A carload of secret police, one of them in a Grand Army uniform, like a

48:37 carabinieri or a state police, snatch Kutapov as he was walking to church one Sunday morning. The incident caused an international stir with 3,000 protesters outside the Soviet embassy. Dulles remained on the peripheral. Now, this is where it gets really interesting. The Kutapov incident highlighted the need for greater security and

49:05 Dulles, of course, levied that in his favor. Some links from the 1920s and 30s, Dulles was still using in the 1960s. Dulles also had a link with George DeMargan Shield, which is the star witness of the JFK Warren Commission.

49:33 into the assassination of President Kennedy. And we know that Dulles played the primary role as really the only full-time quote-unquote investigator, interrogator, whatever you want to call his role that he played on there. And George DeMorgan Shield was the star witness. So the first of seven other members who joined the Chief Justice Earl Warren

50:01 Basically, Dulles was the first. He was highly influential in who else got assigned to the commission into President Kennedy's assassination, which is irony since President Kennedy fired him. Of the 418 witnesses questioned by the commission, one of the longest interviews was George DeMorganshield in Washington in April 1964.

50:31 His counsel for the commission, his lawyer, George's lawyer, was Albert Jenner. At various points, when de Morgenschild was evasive, Jenner let him run, but sooner or later would return him to the point. Never quite sure how much information his questioner already had, de Morgenschild sometimes added more detail to a previous question in the middle of the current question.

51:01 So he was very elusive. But if you go back and you read the transcripts, it's very confusing because it's not readily apparent he's answering a previous question. Very misleading. It seems as if he was trying to indicate his willingness to answer the question, but never fully answering a question.

51:32 just giving the appearance like he'd been coached to do this. He was uniquely qualified as a witness, Jenner explained, because he had acquaintance with both the Kennedy family and the family of Lee Harvey Oswald. How convenient. George DeMorgan Shield had spent time with both families.

51:59 But no links to Allen Dulles was ever revealed. Even though Jenner's questioning more than once peeled back history to provide what should have been direct links between Dulles and DeMorgan Shield, it never got brought up. DeMorgan Shield himself later admitted that he felt threatened during the Warren Commission hearings because Allen Dulles, as a member of the commission, was present when Jenner was asking the questions.

52:29 Like, you know, like he's a victim. George DeMorgan Shield and Alan Dulles were like longtime acquaintances, as we're going to get to in a second. Thirteen years later, in a book that he wrote entitled I'm a Patsy, written after Alan Dulles had passed away in 1969.

52:59 DeMorgenschild described Dulles' presence at the 1964 hearings as, quote, Dulles did not interfere in the proceedings but was there as a distant threat, unquote. George DeMorgenschild is not suggesting Alan Dulles would have disrupted the questioning had he disliked the answer. Rather, he was saying that his answers were compliant and Dulles' presence made sure that he remained compliant.

53:26 DeMorganshiel became part of the conclusion that the commission reached, but in his manuscript, DeMorganshiel disagreed with the outcome of the Warren Commission, which simply blamed Oswald. This was a Dulles-directed conclusion. In effect, DeMorganshiel's book was challenging Dulles' influence on the commission and on him. So he was asked as a witness again, this time under the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassins in 1977.

53:56 In reviewing those findings, de Morgenschild had already written his manuscript stating that the Warren Commission was wrong about Oswald. Two journalists contacted him. One was a Dutch journalist, Willem Oltman. The other was Edward J. Epstein, who was interviewing George de Morgenschild for Reader's Digest in 1977. Epstein noted that de Morgenschild now said that he had done favors for the CIA.

54:26 in return for business favors and opportunities in his own oil business. But that he'd never been on the CIA staff or payroll, and that's a distinction without a difference. On this point, Dulles' own Walter Lippmann, even though uttered many years earlier, never did ring truer. Quote, the mere disclosure that a particular person is working for us may destroy an entire operation.

54:58 unquote. Dulles and Lipman both started intelligence careers in World War I, but in the 50s, their friendship kind of parted ways when it dealt with the covert political action that the CIA had been involved in. So by 1977, George Morgenshield, like apparently out of nowhere, shot himself. You know.

55:27 like right in the middle of the investigation by the house. Dutch journalist Willem Oatman had known him personally. They had traveled to the Netherlands together. Oatman always regarded his death as murder and not a suicide, as did Morgan Shields' wife. So right at the time, Alan Dulles is not around, and he could have been...

55:57 more honest about what he was doing, they murdered him too. George D. Morgan and George G. Dean were Russian immigrants. Children at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1852, they were living in Dallas as part of the Russian immigrant community there with about 500 other immigrants, all drawn from the oil industry, living in the bastion of oil industries.

56:26 in Texas. So, in 1962, George and Jean de Morgenschild befriended Lee Harvey Oswald and his Russian wife, Marina. Lee Harvey Oswald can evoke a very strong response to anyone who has been conditioned that he's the lone assassin. Oswald, as a 19-year-old Marine, had worked in Japan on a CIA base.

57:03 that handled U-2 spy planes. So by October 1959, when he quote-unquote defected to the Soviet Union, which was a city that George used to know as a teenager, so there is a chance that that was a prearranged destination, Lee Harvey Oswald, without showing clearly that they had met, had involved arrangements with the CIA.

57:33 While he was there, Lee Harvey Oswald married Marina in 1961, but then went to the United States with his Russian wife. And this is so important if you understand how this process works. None of that could happen unless the State Department, which includes the CIA, has known about it, approved it.

58:06 any cases facilitated it. None of that could happen. If he really was an AWOL military person that defected to Russia, he'd have never gotten back in the United States. And had he come back in the United States, he'd have been arrested at the port city. That happens all the time. If you travel in and out of the United States and you are AWOL, wherever you come in through a port city, you will be immediately arrested.

58:35 I had a fellow ROTC student at the University of Louisville when I was going to Indiana University who would have graduated at the same time I did, left the ROTC program. She married a foreigner, left. She was under contract to serve. She wasn't even on active duty yet. She was just under contract to serve because she was on a scholarship. When she came, when the guy.

59:05 When they went overseas, the guy dumped her. She comes back through New York and she was immediately arrested. She was court-martialed and basically got a dishonorable discharge, fined, and I think she ended up spending like three months in like a military jail. So they don't play with this stuff.

59:29 The fact that he didn't have any of that normal stuff happen to him tells you he was this whole thing was a CIA arrangement to get, quote unquote, Russia on him in order or communists on him in order to dirty him up, to set him up as a patsy. This whole thing just reeks of that. But I wanted you all to know that piece of it, too, because no one ever talks about that. And I have personal experience with.

59:59 how that actually goes down. DeMorganshield described Lee Harvey Oswald as a hillbilly. They thought he basically was, he's patsy material in all the way that they talk about him. Jenner, the attorney that DeMorganshield had, was looking for an intelligence link behind the initial befriending of Oswald, but the revelation about the favors

1:00:30 that were being done between the intelligence community was not revealed until the interview with Epstein in 1977. Quite apart from the fact that in November 1963, de Morgenschild had been in Haiti. A decade later, he was still pleading his innocence of any prior involvement in the assassination, though his befriending of Oswald

1:00:59 paints a different story. George was in the right place at the right time to be tasked with befriending Oswald and his wife Marina after they returned to the U.S. This befriending of Oswald in 1962 through 1963 implicates him as an accessory to the planning of the assassination. Before de Morgenschild went to work in Haiti, a party was arranged in Dallas around Easter of 1963.

1:01:29 by two of his friends who just so happened to work at Standard Oil. It was clear to Jenner that DeMorgan Shield agreed the real purpose of the party was to allow others to meet and befriend Oswald and Marina. The Warren Commission transcripts revealed that Oswald was on the point of starting a new job in another area of Dallas. But at the party, he got offered a job.

1:01:59 which just so happens to be at the Texas School Book Depository building. Huh. This was arranged six weeks before the assassination. Alan Dulles was in Dallas five weeks before the assassination. He had been invited to talk at the Dallas Council on World Affairs, which George DeMorganshield just so happens to be a member of. Another.

1:02:32 not only an association, but a cover story using these meetings as a way to plan these terror events. As it may later be seen, there were way more connections than most people are aware of. If the Warren Commission had been informed about Dulles' link with the DeMorgan Shield over several decades,

1:03:02 Such a link may well have led to his disqualification of even being a member. I'm going to go a little bit over because I do want to put this part to Alan Dulles and George began four decades earlier their relationship. It goes back to 1920 when Dulles was 27 years old. He was appointed the first secretary working at.

1:03:30 on behalf of Standard Oil to secure concessions held by the Turkish National Oil Company. He was also to keep watch on the Russian border with Persia and Turkey, which is modern-day Iran. Rockefeller's oil interests in the Russian Empire were in jeopardy after the Bolshevik takeover. The most productive oil fields were in Baku,

1:03:58 on the shores of the Caspian Sea in modern-day Azerbaijan, which was part of Russia's empire at the time. Baku had long been a source of wealth for the Russian family, generating lots of oil, and it was concentrated in Baku, Azerbaijan. Pitted against Rockefeller were two European industrialist families, the Rothschilds and the Nobel.

1:04:27 Like the Nobel Peace Prize guys? Yeah. Swedish and involved in, you know, creating landmines and everything that's not peaceful. Another one of those oxymorons. So Henry Dietering was head of the Royal Dutch cell in the Netherlands, East Indies. We're right back to that company.

1:04:56 He appeared in Baku in 1913. From his oil rivalry with Rockefeller in the Far East, Dietering had grown stronger after starving off Standard Oil takeover attempts. However, the Rothschilds, in exchange for their Baku holdings, became one of the largest single shareholders in Royal Dutch Shell, along with Queen...

1:05:28 Wilmina of the Netherlands, then the richest woman in the world. Similarly, even as the red and white Russians clashed, Standard Oil increased its holding by adding half of the Nobel Oil interest in Baku. Both Dietering and Rockefeller were gambling that the Tsar would retain power. After control of the Baku changed from Turkish troops to British, Standard Oil then

1:05:56 Vice President Walter Teagle had purchased half of Nobel's holdings, which from the Russians largest oil company. The purchase had started in 1919, but continued through 1920. That's when the Bolsheviks took Baku and nationalized the oil fields. Rockefeller and Teagle still regarded the Russian revolution as a temporary step back.

1:06:26 And they were also still recognized as the owners outside of the Soviet Union of that oil field. Alan Dulles' task for lobbying for Standard Oil negotiations with the Nobel's interest in Russia was none other than Sergius Alexander von Morgenschild, who happened to have been born in Russia of German and Swedish ancestry. He had inherited a title from Queen

1:06:57 Christina of Sweden. Baron Sergius was one of the special appointees responsible for mobilizing the Tsar's army. The important role further highlights the fact that the oil discussions with Dulles were inseparable from strategic military concerns. Working in Baku with Sergius was his older brother in an executive position and living with Sergius in Baku was his wife and 10-year-old son,

1:07:27 George de Morgenshield, the same person that befriended Lee Harvey Oswald, I would argue on behalf of Alan Dulles. George's brother, Dmitry, 11 years older, was already in the Russian Navy. Dmitry immigrated to the U.S. in 1920, escaping with his life during the course of the revolution. Sergius, too, was arrested, but before being transported to Siberia, he escaped to Poland with his wife and son.

1:08:01 They stayed on a family estate, as George later described it to the Warren Commission, which was a wooded area in Poland, right on the border of Russia, which was like five or six thousand acres. Yeah. George's mother died soon after they arrived in Poland. George volunteered to join the Polish cavalry for 18 months, attended a famous military academy while in Poland.

1:08:34 and basically he studied, he went to Belgium and France, and, you know, like rich kids do, he went to school all over. Sergius was well known among the immigrant community, and they had personal security because of them being Russian immigrants around the 1930s, and that it was well known that the Trotskys

1:09:01 who was murdered in Mexico in 1940, was after many of the Russian royalty slash upper statesmen from the Tsar's time. So one can understand how George and his father, more than most white Russian immigrants, must have had a lingering fear of anything.

1:09:28 relating to the Soviets and the threat. Although Sergius had never been recaptured, the fact that he had been sentenced to prison in Siberia was kind of a haunting feeling. So they lived for a time in Paris, which of course so did Alan Dulles, and then they immigrate to the U.S., dropping the Vaughn, which is the royal...

1:10:00 precursor to his last name and adding D-E, and that's where they come up with DeMorganshield as opposed to Von Morganshield. So Dulles and DeMorganshield each had a forebearer involved in the same historic struggles, and Dulles and DeMorganshield were the 20th century's quote-unquote anti-communists. They had lots in common.

1:10:31 He goes on to talk about George's employment in the oil industries in the 40s and 50s and how it linked up with what Alan Dulles was doing for the Rockefellers in the oil industry. And he outlines many places where their careers would have overlapped. And Alan Dulles was based in Paris, as we've already mentioned, when he was employed by Sullivan and Cromwell.

1:11:01 And he also had close relationship with German banks. And of course, the Morgan Shields route traced back to Germany as well. Allen had connections with the Schroeder Bank and IG Farben, which both had American subsidiaries that Allen and Sullivan and Cromwell repped.

1:11:28 Also, obviously, those provided intelligence resources for Alan Dulles. In the 1930s, George Morgan Shield was in Antwerp. Dulles was building his network there during that time as the precursor to the OSS. And obviously, he spent a lot of time while working at Sullivan and Cromwell traveling to Europe. Alan Dulles.

1:11:59 often traveled to Paris, Geneva, London, Berlin, Budapest, all within traveling distance of where George was at any one time while still living over there. So, talks about them spending time together when he moved his family over to Paris. Also, Alan Dulles and George, let's see, that...

1:12:34 pretty much gets us to our next big kind of jumping off point in the story. And so you can see how the connections are huge as it relates to the groundwork in the complicity of

1:13:03 Setting JFK up and how this author's assertion, and although there were many parallels, there's a lot of people that are really fixated on JFK's insisting on nuclear inspections in Israel as a reason why Mossad wanted him dead. This author, and we also saw in Skorzeny's papers book, the OAS.

1:13:33 piece of the narrative that there were OAS assassins from NATO that were trained by Otto Skorzeny that were deployed to Dallas and that his OAS was pissed off at him because they were the ones that were fighting to keep Algeria imprisoned in slavery.

1:13:59 And JFK was on the side of Charles de Gaulle wanting them to have freedom. And that JFK was pissed off on what happened as he was just coming into office with Lumumba. He thought that was all wrong. So there's so many narratives where JFK was absolutely 180 degrees out from anything Alan Dulles was doing. This is yet another one. When we get to Indonesia, you cannot...

1:14:28 overstate the significance of JFK's stance on what he felt was the right thing to do in supporting Sukarno and how much effort went into sabotaging by Alan Dulles every single thing that JFK wanted to have done.

1:14:53 in Indonesia. And so it's going to take us a little time to set the stage for the background, but it's very important. Once he, JFK, is assassinated, immediately Alan Dulles kicks into gear, just like what happened in Vietnam. They immediately kicked into gear. That was another one of the parallel tracks. Literally every foreign affairs

1:15:22 foreign policy stance JFK took was an affront to the CIA. And I have spent a lot of time pursuing all of them as it relates to, because I want you guys to have this full spectrum that you're not going to be stuck in mantra that somebody says it's always these people. No.

1:15:51 Foreign policy is never about one thing. There is an entire plethora of reasons the CIA wanted JFK dead because he was stopping every single one of their operations in its tracks. And once he fired Dulles, all of that was put into jeopardy and they were not going to allow that to happen.

1:16:20 With that, I'm going to open it up. Bridget, I invited you to co-host. Are they attacking you? I don't know if she can hear you. Bridget? Yeah, I sent her. Let me cancel it and do it again. I've sent it to her like three times. I'm having one of those pleasant kind of days. Oh, gosh. Speaking of which, is she here yet? I don't think so. Okay, I don't see her.

1:17:02 All right. So anybody stellar, we missed you yesterday. I've missed you the last two days. I've been able to listen in, but I haven't been able to participate with all the stuff that's going on. And what you guys are talking about totally from just what a couple of decades ago is still going on today. And the people are connected still with all the stuff that's going on. And it's just mind blowing. I agree.

1:17:32 Yep. Absolutely. And you know what the neat thing is? Sorry, I didn't mean to butt in. Go ahead. But so much is coming out in the news. Of course, not the mainstream media news, but so much seems to be getting light shed on it. I agree.

1:17:55 Oh, yeah. And how all these things are tied with the different governments, politicians. You know, even I was just like what you guys were putting up on the board and what SR was putting up about the George dude. And then I went into WikiUps or Wikipedia or whatever it's called and then was just reading stuff about him. And then the people that, you know, he had a couple of books, Arm and Hammer, which you guys spoke about recently, too. It's like, holy cow, all of these people are all intertwined amongst each other.

1:18:25 They are. Yeah, absolutely. And I think to me, I keep coming back to the fact that they make them seem like they're separate movements. When in fact, when you look back at the funding of them all and the overlap on these committees, councils, they all interplay with each other.

1:18:54 The what we have been led to believe is left and right. They all show up on these same councils. They show up on these same like the World Anti-Communist League or they show up in the America's security. So anything that sounds like generic, they all show up as overlapping multi-party.

1:19:23 participation when we're told that they're diabolically separate. So that's kind of a reoccurring theme for me anyway. It totally does. And then you hear about the blackmail plots that these people have been doing.

1:19:46 Operation Gladio, the paperclip stuff, you know, how these Nazis have totally like fine-tuned everything that's being used today. And I mean, even the MKUltra stuff, you know, you guys talked a little bit about, you know, like Charles Manson, you talked about the people that drank the juice down.

1:20:04 Jim Jones and all of them and all these different CIA things that are going on. And then we see, you know, two assassination attempts on President Trump and same kind of mind altering craziness, you know, that they used before that they're still using today. So one of the things that's most interesting about the second one is the guy's travel patterns. If you understand.

1:20:33 how foreign travel works and the application for visas and the mechanisms that you have to go through in order to get State Department permission and your visas and that type of different thing. The fact that this guy has been traveling around to Ukraine, to Pakistan, to Afghanistan, to Iran is crazy.

1:21:01 um to think that he's doing all of this stuff um because he's not doing it without the permission of the state department just like i was just saying about lee harvey oswald every single thing that he did was approved by the state department which means it was approved by the cia they are not separate entities no matter what anybody tells you and so um the current guy

1:21:28 was basically being handled by the State Department slash CIA in his world travels. You know, when you come back into the country, they have you stop and they look at your passport. They look, you know, they can already tell because when they scan it, but they'll still go through and look at the stamps or whatever as well.

1:21:55 I mean, it wasn't that long ago that I left the country. So, I mean, they're always looking. You would think that the guy who's checking your passport at the little, you know, little cubicle with the glass all around him when you shove your stuff underneath, you would think that they would ask questions and then call someone over to do like the separate interview in another room or whatever. I guess that's just in TV. Actually, what happens, Stella, when you're traveling under.

1:22:24 the direction of the State Department or CIA, you are flagged in the system to not ask any questions. So when I'm on official duty and I was traveling on my government passport, I was never asked questions. If I used my personal passport when I was traveling in Europe, I was always asked questions because they didn't know me from Adam.

1:22:54 It is a very different and especially if you are under the like I said, the directive of the CIA slash you are flagged in the system to basically go right through. And in many cases, for me, when I would travel to Spain and to Germany and to England, I was when I went into the customs area.

1:23:21 I was actually pulled out and kind of given the fast track treatment as long as I was traveling on my official passport. Okay. So I've only traveled on my regular passport. I mean, Jillian might be able, and then with Jillian, she might be able, I mean, like when I know that I came in from overseas, because remember I worked for that really bad airline, but we came in through the, through what do you call, it wasn't through the commercial airport. We came in through the private side.

1:23:51 Yeah. You know, so we were able to just, you know, they never talked to us at all, even like when we came in through our international stuff. Jillian probably knows more because she worked for Delta for a lot longer than I did. I only did it for six months. Deller, you are telling me you're working for the CIA and you were never asked questions. But when you travel normally, you were asked questions. You just confirmed what I just said. OK. All along. Go ahead. Hi. Yeah. Just a.

1:24:23 Quick comment on what was just said about Oswald returning from the Soviet Union with his Russian wife, Marina, who, oh, what a coincidence, had also managed to have a brief affair with the previous U.S. Marine on the list of false defectors to the Soviet Union when that ex-Marine was in.

1:24:51 The Soviet Union. Well, when Oswald and Marita returned from the Soviet Union, the guy who met them was a guy by the name of Spas Rankin. I need to double check the spelling, but it's R-A-I-K-E-N, I believe. And he was a member of the Anti-Bolshevik League of Nations.

1:25:20 And many, many other connections, which I should remember right now, but I'm going to, I'll put that on the link later. It's, you know, it's beyond herniated coincidence over here, the connections of this guy, Spas Raken, who met them at the airport when they returned from the Soviet Union, again, without any trouble whatsoever, in spite of the fact that, you know, Oswald had volunteered to give up.

1:25:47 you know, secrets from his U-2, his top secret, above top secret mission guarding the U-2 spy plane at Tsugi Air Force Base in Japan. And which, of course, reminds me of another interesting fact. You know, you probably mentioned this elsewhere, but Gary Francis Powers, the guy who piloted the U-2, was on a San Diego radio station in 1978.

1:26:17 And he was like, hmm, gee, it sure was a coincidence that this guy, Lee Harvey Oswald, seven levels above top secret clearance at Atsugi and U-2 spy plane was the CIA's baby. And Oswald was right there. Gee, what a coincidence that he should have been in Russia when I was shot down. And, of course, two weeks later, Mr. Gary Francis Powers dies in a helicopter.

1:26:49 accident, he was working as a traffic helicopter reporter for, I believe, either KNBC, for one of the big, maybe KTLA or KNBC in Los Angeles. So, but anyway, the Spots Reagan connection ties in directly with some of your earlier comments about the anti-Bolshevik League of Nations. But I'm going to type something on and put that in the bubble later on. So let me,

1:27:19 We're going to talk about tonight on Alpha Show when I compare the American Security Council to the World Anti-Communist League and the overlap there. The anti-Bolshevik bloc of nations was referred to as the ABN. So the ABN actually transitioned into World Anti-Communist League. They are one in the same.

1:27:48 Now, keep in mind that the ABN, the anti-Bolshevik bloc, would be, because the Bolsheviks are primarily Jewish, you're going into the material about a group of nations that were, has been labeled anti-Jewish, but they were anti-Bolshevik, not necessarily.

1:28:18 Jewish people. And that's a clarification that a lot of people miss. So the anti-Bolshevik bloc of nations is the same thing. It's the precursor to the World Anti-Communist League. And the precursor to the anti-Bolshevik bloc of nations was a thing called the Committee of Subjugated Nations that was formed by Hitler.

1:28:48 So all of this goes back to a very fascist element that we're going to put all together tonight. So because it's a fascinating association and it takes us directly to modern day Ukraine. That's the part that's the most fascinating to me.

1:29:18 Which is also interesting because the 23andMe, the whole board, resigned today, the DNA place. And we know that that has to do with the bioweapons as well that they try to do against us, which is Ukraine. So with that being said, I think things are being dismantled. Well, what was interesting to me about the association with 23andMe,

1:29:47 Allegations that they were creating bioweapons that will genetically attack certain race, certain groupings, ethnicities of people, all can be tracked back to 23andMe. And when you look around the world at the countries that were the most fascist in...

1:30:16 orchestrating the COVID mafia in testing and everything else lends credibility to there being an attempt to target certain ethnic groups.

1:30:41 assassination of anyone like in Haiti and Tanzania that would not play along with them in the collection of that DNA data strikes at the heart of what they were actually doing. Because if you go back in history, again, talking about patterns, and you look at when they assassinate people, they assassinate people that appear to be on to their agenda.

1:31:11 That tells you everything about what they're trying to do. So you look for the people that they target, just like Trump, and you know that those are the good people. There's no other way to look at it at this point. Go ahead, Bridget. Well, actually, I just sent you the article. It's kind of funny. I did do a little looking into the 23andMe. And if you look at, okay, just using Gladio.

1:31:42 glasses kind of thing. And you go back to these board members who spontaneously resigned in the name of protecting people's data and all being about it for the right reasons. You have a lot of people who have a habit of doing all the wrong things for the wrong reasons. And it just so happened.

1:32:13 that they had a breach that affected more than 6.9 million customers, and they just settled a $30 million class action lawsuit over that data breach just a few days before the entire board spontaneously decided to step down. Just a side note. Okay, well, I missed most of that because they kicked me out of my own space.

1:32:43 Oh, my God. You're kidding me. At least I'm not the only one under attack. Don't talk about 23 and me. About 24 and you. We'll call it 24 and you. Holy shit. Oh, that's funny. All right, Benjamin, go. Hi, ladies. No, I love history. Like, ever since I joined the Navy and, you know, as chiefs, we're...

1:33:14 huge as far as like the degree at which we want to transfer our knowledge and pass along our history to the next generation you know every season is a cycle that we go through when we bring new new selects up in order to put anchors on them and they they go through a process so we beat the crap out of you we really beat the crap out of you and the reason why we do that is because the importance of you know the job or the role that you're about ready to take on you know and

1:33:43 If you just take a look at today and take just something as simple as COVID, like.

1:33:48 Everybody in this room believes what they believe about what COVID is, just how expansive it could be, how bad it really is or how minimal it is. We all see different things, and that's how history is. We only learn so much when we're in elementary school, middle school, high school about history. If you go back and look at history, Colonel opens this up. These ladies open all that up.

1:34:17 get a small window a small angle in history class in school and then you you see the information that colonel brings out and then the more you read about a topic you see there's all different other degrees and levels of it you know like it's a lot more complicated than than what it appears you know and then you you look at all the lies that they've done you know just in the last four years that we've seen that's come out you know and it's like

1:34:46 How far back does it go? You know, so I'm one of those people. I'm a big advocate for once we do get through this, you know, we go back and take a look at a lot of things like history, like laws, regulations. We go back and look at everything and take take it. Take another look at everything and ream. All right. I lost him. You still there, Benjamin? Yes, ma'am. I just. All right. You're fading in and out.

1:35:29 I don't know what happened. Hey, Ben, let me try and drop you down and bring you back up. Jockette, go ahead. Where'd she go? I think you dropped down the wrong person. No, I think she was having some issues. She dropped down on her own a couple of times. Hang on. We'll bring her right back up. All right. Carrie, go ahead. I think that there was an update also today I saw. Okay.

1:35:59 No, I just got done picking up my son, so when I pulled into my driveway, my Wi-Fi picked me up and garbled it all up. History is amazing. We've got to go back and re-look at everything. I see a lot of change happening. This new world that we can create, if we can do this right, we can get these evil people out of here. We look at Diddy, we look at all this stuff that's coming out.

1:36:27 And how these people are interconnected. Colonel highlights, you know, how they've been doing a lot of this stuff for decades and decades, probably at least 100 years. You know, let's go back and relook at history and see who we really are. You know, see what we want to create. You know, so I'm excited. Thank you, Colonel. Thank you, ladies. Thanks, Benjamin. Carrie, go ahead. Hey, so my data on 23andMe is the board exited.

1:36:59 Because the CEO, that is a woman, and I'll never be able to pronounce his name, wanted to take it public. And so if you know anything about the difference between a public and a private company, massive difference.

1:37:22 You just open your you have to do a lot of like opening your books and, you know, blah, blah. So, yeah. And also, I just found out that they merged with Richard Branson's company. He's a bad man, I think. He's definitely interesting. I thought 23andMe was public.

1:37:51 I just went online. The executives wanted to make it go private because it was already a public traded. Oh, it's the opposite. Oh, I got bad information. Yeah, it says the CEO plans to take the company private, which is basically what Elon did with X. And the board all resigned because they didn't want that to happen.

1:38:22 So, yeah, what's interesting about that is, you know, if you're private, then a lot of the stuff for the SEC and stuff like that doesn't apply because you don't have stockholders. And if they now believe this to me is a clue that Trump's going to win because these people do not want to be open for investigations if Trump is president.

1:38:53 So you're going to see this a lot more, in my estimation, because they want to not be audited. They want to not be exposed. I do think we're going to see a lot more of this. Alfred, go ahead. I'm not hearing him. Does anybody hear him? No, I don't hear Alfred either. I thought it was mine. Hang on, Alfred. Let me drop you down and bring you back up, okay? But Jacket is back.

1:39:29 Okay, Jockette, go ahead. Jockette? I guess Jockette didn't have anything to say. Shannon, go ahead. Hey, Colonel. First off, I just want to say great show on Rumble. I just want to give you a little shout out for that with the 24 show. So that was cool covering that with the Hollywood Connection and Gladio. Yeah, I found that fascinating. That was flipping awesome. I hope you do that again.

1:40:10 That was because I think you do deep dive on quite a few of those. I guess I was like, yeah, because I'm a huge spy thriller fan and to see the connection with Claudio. Amazing. I wouldn't bring up with executive order 13848. I don't care if they go public or not. There's none of them going to get away with anything. So they go public all they want. They're not going to get away with anything because of the executive order. So they can make all those moves they want. But when it comes down to it.

1:40:39 you know, the gigs up, right? I think it depends on what they're involved in. Yeah. Well, Executive Order 13848 specifically says treason and crimes against humanity, right? Right. So, yeah. So if they're connected to that, which most of those public companies, as you know, had dealings, which Gladio was, you know, operations that cover most of that stuff. Is anybody speaking?

1:41:10 Sorry, I don't know what that was or who that was. But anyhow, I don't know what that was. Anyhow, so, you know, with Operation Gladio kind of being the modus operandi of a lot of these shenanigans, they're not going to get away with this stuff. So anyhow, over to you. I just want to give you a shout out about last night's show and talk about Executive Order 13848. Thank you. Appreciate that. Bridget, see if you can find the jockette.

1:41:39 Again. I'm working on it. Yeah. His is not working. And then Alfred I think couldn't hear. Whoever was speaking last either. Okay. I'm working on it. Okay. Yeah. I did the second show this morning. On our book review. As well. It's out there on the Rumble channel. If you guys are following that book review. I did that this morning.

1:42:08 So you can go check that out as well. I'm going to try to get that. The next one will be tomorrow at some point, but I'm not like doing them on a set schedule. I'm going to try to get them in as I can throughout the day. So I'll give you as much heads up as I can, but it won't be like a.

1:42:33 locked in four o'clock kind of thing. Um, hopefully at some point I'll be able to get back to the like, um, Tuesday and Thursday at seven o'clock. Like we had the routine before, but, um, I'm not there yet. We're just going to throw them in where I can get them. I do Shannon plan on doing some more short, um, kind of little deep dives into particular topics. Um, because I do think, um, having them out there so people can see.

1:43:02 Kind of the overview on like a particular person that we have done in the past, like a William Polly or this current one with some information that I have found on the World Anti-Communist League. Of course, that pulls in some that we've already done, like William Polly. But there are some interesting other people.

1:43:30 that I have not done like short little deep dives on that this will open the ability to do that once we get them into how they fit into Operation Gladio. Because I don't like doing it without setting up the context for why it's important. And so tonight's show with Alpha is going to put it in perspective as to why.

1:43:54 The World Anti-Communist League and the American Security Council was so important to the setup of this forever war of World War III that started after World War II. And then we're going to name some names, and then I will have the opportunity to go back and do little short, deep dives on some of those names so that you can see how they all play a part in this garbage.

1:44:24 But anyway, I guess we lost them. I tried to offer Alfred the mic, but I don't know. Maybe he's just glitching and having some issues. But Jacket is not in the space, so I can't throw the mic down to her. Okay. Actually, me being an IT geek, I see Benjamin still in a loop of connecting. Benjamin, if you can hear me, drop out and leave.

1:44:53 and then come back in, and then I'm sure Bridget and them will bring you back up because I see you're in a circular connecting thing, so that might help. No, I'm here. It glitches a lot, and it'll show me the same thing about people sometimes. That's part of the reason why I drop down and come back up because things were coming in all garbled and everything. They don't want people to hear the colonel's message, these ladies' message, but that's the thing. It's already out there. They're getting locked up.

1:45:22 That's true. SR-71, go ahead. Thank you, Colonel. Talking about today's events and everything else that's going on with the 23, but the one thing that's really got me puzzled at this point in time that I still haven't put all the pieces together yet is what's going on with these pagers and walkie-talkies and other things that are going on now and where that exactly coming from.

1:45:53 We have some clue as to an interception of all these pagers that wound up being, shall we say, sabotaged, for lack of a better word. But if we can get through that, then my biggest question at this point in time is, what's that going to do to the public concerning about buying electronic equipment in general, period?

1:46:24 Just so that you guys know, those pagers were provided, networked through a defense contract that was let to a company in Denver, Colorado. And in order for all of them to go off at the same time, whoever did that had to have access to that company's network.

1:46:52 was originally to be focused on people in the northern area of Pakistan. OK, not Lebanon, the northern area of Pakistan. And this contract and this company goes back to the time when they were tracking bin Laden. So my first thought when I was doing the research on that.

1:47:21 is that this is most likely a CIA contract that was used to keep tabs on exactly where bin Laden was at all times. And the contract for the Northern Pakistan, the original contract for the Northern Pakistani area expired two months after bin Laden was quote unquote assassinated.

1:47:52 I'm sure that's just a coincidence. But the ones that were in Lebanon, that same contractor out in Colorado got that contract. And the original contract was again for this entity that was somehow associated with Pakistan. And that tells you that that had to be a.

1:48:23 intelligence. My guess would be the CIA. But that had to be an intelligence operation for them to have gotten access. First of all, they were all booby trapped, obviously. And then on top of that, they had to have access to that company's network in order to send the signal.

1:48:51 for them all basically to go off at the same time. So, yeah, that's a crazy story. Yeah, Colonel, I don't know if you commented on it, but I saw something on the post early on X where they were saying instead of them being made, usually because me being in IT working for the wokeism Canadian government, initially those pagers were made by Motorola.

1:49:21 And I read a post saying distinctively saying that, by the way, these pagers were not made by Motorola were made in Taiwan. So I don't know if you saw the same. I did. Yes. And interestingly enough, you know, Taiwan is where the world anti-communist league comes from. So I'm convinced that it's all connected. And of course, my assumption, my.

1:49:52 speculation is Taiwan has always been as Pakistan primarily was a government ran by the CIA. They were fake countries created after World War II to be controlled by this fascist effort in this ongoing international fascism implementation scheme. And so, yeah, I'm not surprised by that at all.

1:50:25 So, Benjamin, go ahead. Just to add, you know, that's part of what the CIA does. They invest money into, you know, small businesses or companies and then they hide in plain sight. And then they get involved in certain technologies, certain resources, industries, and then they call upon them when they need them. You know, that's how they're able to do what they do. Yeah, that's exactly right. Crazy.

1:51:01 All right, guys, we're getting close to six o'clock. I'm going to go ahead and wrap this up. And I will be back, like I said, at 930 on the Alpha Warrior show. And we are going to do a deep dive into closing up the American Security Council and rolling into the World Anti-Communist League. And it's definitely going to be.

1:51:31 a roller coaster. So thanks for being here. And I will see you guys tomorrow at four o'clock and sometime tomorrow to continue our book review. Thanks.

Entities here

Allen Dulles35 George de Mohrenschildt26 Jean-Jacques Dozy20 Freeport Sulphur18 Vietnam17 John F. Kennedy14 World Anti-Communist League12 Lee Harvey Oswald12 Netherlands11 Warren Commission9 Sullivan & Cromwell8 Soviet Union8 Operation Gladio8 Bolsheviks8 CFR7 Sukarno7 Pavel Kutepov7 Standard Oil6 Sergius de Mohrenschildt6 Baku oil fields6 Forbes Wilson6 Marina Oswald6 U.S. State Department6 Albert Jenner5 Anti-Bolshevik League of Nations5 Pyotr Wrangel5 G. Zylstra5 John D. Rockefeller5 Theodore Baker4 White Army4 Nobel family4 Henry Dietering3 Mafia3 New York Agreement3 Spas Rankin3 China3 Dutch government geological foundation3 John Polgreen3 Jan Van Gruzen3 House Select Committee on Assassinations2

Claims made here

World Anti-Communist League front_for Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 6:44

“I have made the connection a long time ago that the World Anti-Communist League appeared to me to be a front for Operation Gladio coordination and planning. I'm about to come to the conclusion that it…”

World Anti-Communist League member_of Japan host_asserted ▶ 8:14

“But you didn't want anybody to know that you were actually at war with the rest of the world. That entity would look like the World Anti-Communist League. And it would incorporate the Japanese because…”

World Anti-Communist League member_of Italy host_asserted ▶ 8:14

World Anti-Communist League member_of Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 8:44

“It would incorporate the fascist elements of Portugal and Spain because they were both fascist at that point. It would incorporate the fascist elements of the Nazis. And to a lesser degree, the elemen…”

World Anti-Communist League member_of Spain host_asserted ▶ 8:44

World Anti-Communist League member_of Portugal host_asserted ▶ 8:44

World Anti-Communist League member_of Nazi Party host_asserted ▶ 8:44

Freeport Sulphur funded Forbes Wilson book_quoted ▶ 13:24

“Freeport Sulfur Company, found out about the Gold Mountain. And it says the Freeport explanation of how he found out about it reads like an excellent mining tale, but lacks one important ingredient, a…”

Freeport Sulphur covered_up Jean-Jacques Dozy book_quoted ▶ 13:52

“that Rockefeller interests or persons in the Dutch government were already aware of the correct version of Dossi's gold discovery merely highlights the concerted policy of concealment. Yet Freeport pe…”

Jan Van Gruzen member_of East Borrero book_quoted ▶ 14:22

“Freeport Sulphur began searching for new nickel deposits because they got kicked out of Cuba. And ironically enough, when Cuba nationalized the nickel refinery, they put Shea Cavera in charge of it. I…”

Fidel Castro removed_from_power Freeport Sulphur book_quoted ▶ 14:22

Che Guevara appointed Cuba book_quoted ▶ 14:22

Theodore Baker member_of East Borrero book_quoted ▶ 14:22

Sukarno removed_from_power East Borrero book_quoted ▶ 14:51

“Two people, Jan Van Gruzen and Theodore Baker, after a similar fate of nationalization by President Sukarno in Indonesia. So you got all of these out-of-work minors. This twist of fate caused Forbes W…”

Lyman Lemnitzer covered_up Jean-Jacques Dozy book_quoted ▶ 15:51

“You know, as luck would have it. Even NATO Secretary General Lunds, during the early part of the interview, tried to claim that many files got completely lost during the war. Forbes Wilson's own accou…”

George Meany member_of Freeport Sulphur book_quoted ▶ 16:18

“the former president and chief operating officer of Freeport, added more detail, explaining that this company were looking for nickel prospects in Dutch New Guinea and that Van Grusen, a mining engine…”

Bechtel member_of Mafia host_asserted ▶ 20:51

“in Indonesia for this mining project. So I found that interesting because we definitely know that Bechtel is part of the international syndicate. So Freeport official figures for the concentration of …”

Freeport Sulphur overbilled_or_diverted Jean-Jacques Dozy book_quoted ▶ 23:43

“resumes its original 15 grams per ton. This suggests that while the silver has not been removed from the slurry, gold has been removed before the slurry is pumped down to the pipeline for export. Not …”

Freeport Sulphur funded Dutch government geological foundation book_quoted ▶ 29:37

“joined the Dutch company to gain a mining permit for the mountain. This effectively blocked access for others such as the foundation. After the sovereignty dispute was ended and the signing of the New…”

Freeport Sulphur covered_up G. Zylstra book_quoted ▶ 30:08

“mining permit was set to expire. This is how they're going to push the Dutch out of the mining proceeds. So, for the last five years of Dutch control of the territory, during which there was a concert…”

Allen Dulles ordered_assassination_of G. Zylstra host_asserted ▶ 32:36

“Zylstra and his wife were crossing a narrow road when a very large truck came around the corner and basically ran the car over, killing the driver, but not his wife. So basically he was assassinated b…”

Darul Islam carried_out_attack Sukarno book_quoted ▶ 35:34

“but they denied further involvement. In other words, it goes without saying they were not successful. In November 1957, hand grenades were thrown at Sukarno in a schoolyard in Jakarta. A Muslim extrem…”

Allen Dulles targeted_for_regime_change Sukarno book_quoted ▶ 38:01

“It works for the international syndicate. It works their agenda, not our agenda. And it plays out over and over again in all of these. Dulles was pursuing a regime change primarily to gain unobstructe…”

John F. Kennedy removed_from_power Allen Dulles book_quoted ▶ 39:03

“the CIA, his anti-Sucarno stance was just one of several reasons for which Dulles would eventually be fired. Dulles still welded insurance after Kennedy fired him. His monument that was installed at t…”

Allen Dulles member_of Sullivan & Cromwell book_quoted ▶ 40:05

“The author then talks a little bit about Alan Dulles' background, about the fact that he joined John Foster Dulles at Sullivan and Cromwell, the part that he was at the U.S. Embassy in Vienna, that hi…”

KGB assassinated Pavel Kutepov book_quoted ▶ 41:05

“This all went on prior to the CIA. The beauty, from their perspective of standing up the CIA, gave them government protection from any and all laws. That was kind of the reason why they had to do it, …”

Pavel Kutepov carried_out_attack Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 46:02

“but then were repulsed by the post-war instability and ended up in Paris. The Russians started two newspapers and many other cultural aspects of the Russian royalty was re-established in Paris. Dulles…”

Allen Dulles funded Pavel Kutepov book_quoted ▶ 46:02

Sullivan & Cromwell funded Pavel Kutepov book_quoted ▶ 46:34

“Although Dulles, in 1930, was an employee of Sullivan and Cromwell, he often hired out to the State Department. So both of his employers, both the State Department and Sullivan and Cromwell, might hav…”

U.S. State Department funded Pavel Kutepov book_quoted ▶ 46:34

Allen Dulles member_of Warren Commission book_quoted ▶ 49:33

“into the assassination of President Kennedy. And we know that Dulles played the primary role as really the only full-time quote-unquote investigator, interrogator, whatever you want to call his role t…”

George de Mohrenschildt member_of Warren Commission book_quoted ▶ 49:33

Allen Dulles removed_from_power John F. Kennedy book_quoted ▶ 50:01

“Basically, Dulles was the first. He was highly influential in who else got assigned to the commission into President Kennedy's assassination, which is irony since President Kennedy fired him. Of the 4…”

George de Mohrenschildt spied_on Lee Harvey Oswald book_quoted ▶ 1:00:59

“paints a different story. George was in the right place at the right time to be tasked with befriending Oswald and his wife Marina after they returned to the U.S. This befriending of Oswald in 1962 th…”

Allen Dulles appointed Standard Oil book_quoted ▶ 1:03:30

“on behalf of Standard Oil to secure concessions held by the Turkish National Oil Company. He was also to keep watch on the Russian border with Persia and Turkey, which is modern-day Iran. Rockefeller'…”

Allen Dulles spied_on Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 1:03:30

Allen Dulles member_of IG Farben book_quoted ▶ 1:11:01

“And he also had close relationship with German banks. And of course, the Morgan Shields route traced back to Germany as well. Allen had connections with the Schroeder Bank and IG Farben, which both ha…”

Allen Dulles member_of Schroder Bank book_quoted ▶ 1:11:01

John F. Kennedy targeted_for_regime_change Patrice Lumumba book_quoted ▶ 1:13:59

“And JFK was on the side of Charles de Gaulle wanting them to have freedom. And that JFK was pissed off on what happened as he was just coming into office with Lumumba. He thought that was all wrong. S…”

Allen Dulles targeted_for_regime_change Sukarno book_quoted ▶ 1:14:28

“overstate the significance of JFK's stance on what he felt was the right thing to do in supporting Sukarno and how much effort went into sabotaging by Alan Dulles every single thing that JFK wanted to…”

John F. Kennedy targeted_for_regime_change Sukarno book_quoted ▶ 1:14:28

U.S. State Department provided_bridge_financing_for Lee Harvey Oswald host_asserted ▶ 1:21:01

“um to think that he's doing all of this stuff um because he's not doing it without the permission of the state department just like i was just saying about lee harvey oswald every single thing that he…”

Spas Rankin member_of Anti-Bolshevik League of Nations host_asserted ▶ 1:24:51

“The Soviet Union. Well, when Oswald and Marita returned from the Soviet Union, the guy who met them was a guy by the name of Spas Rankin. I need to double check the spelling, but it's R-A-I-K-E-N, I b…”

World Anti-Communist League succeeded Anti-Bolshevik League of Nations host_asserted ▶ 1:27:19

“We're going to talk about tonight on Alpha Show when I compare the American Security Council to the World Anti-Communist League and the overlap there. The anti-Bolshevik bloc of nations was referred t…”

Anti-Bolshevik League of Nations succeeded Committee of Subjugated Nations host_asserted ▶ 1:28:18

“Jewish people. And that's a clarification that a lot of people miss. So the anti-Bolshevik bloc of nations is the same thing. It's the precursor to the World Anti-Communist League. And the precursor t…”

Adolf Hitler founded Committee of Subjugated Nations host_asserted ▶ 1:28:18