OPERATION GLADIO Exposed with COLONEL TOWNER in The Skorzeny Papers Chapter 9

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0:06 Is the audio good? Rumble is very, very slow tonight. Hello? Alright, let me check my audio. Let's see. MacBook, MacBook. Camera. Yep, we're all good. So, got to turn this volume off. It plays back. Yes, we're good. Alright, so we're going to go ahead and get started. Let me just tell you. Holy crap. Holy crap.

1:40 That was crazy. I don't even know where to start. I'm like totally flabbergasted of. So let me share with y'all. First of all, tip to Julie. We miss her lots. She texted me a few minutes to go towards the end of the Putin.

2:13 She says, I hope your old and new followers saw the interview tonight and understand the importance of all your research, Substack, Telegram, Rumble videos, and YouTube videos. This interview proves you are on target. God bless you, Julie. I could not have done it without her and her two kids, especially at the beginning. I just could not have done it. She was an amazing cheerleader, researcher, and God bless you, Julie.

2:44 Okay, so I also want to give a shout out to Bridget and Liza. We had a coordination meeting earlier, and as a follow-up to our spaces from last Monday night, I started working on the syllabus for the next Monday.

3:12 This coming Monday at six o'clock. Again, I need y'all all there. We are kicking butt. So let me find my notes. What we decided on is I had told people I was going to come back with two Gladio examples, countries that Gladio had been used in.

3:41 I decided that since I had already done a lot of work in Greece, that we were going to use Greece because Greece had the, what we call O-Plan, the operational plan of the town square snipers on the buildings, which when you go through the scenario that was used in Greece in the aftermath, that transitions right into Ukraine because

4:09 That's what they used in 2014. But you can't talk about 2014 in Ukraine without talking about 2004 and 2005 in Ukraine. Now, these guys know, and they're my witnesses, I already had all of this written down. The fact that every bit of what I have written down just got said by Putin is crazy, crazy, crazy, okay?

4:39 I already had the, so some of the parts that he left out, there was a journalist that was murdered, just like in some of the other cases. You have the guy that he mentioned, Kuchma, who was the prime minister, and what Kuchma's role in, he had relationships.

5:08 There was an alleged transfer of a sophisticated Ukrainian defense system to Saddam Hussein in Iraq, basically weapons trafficking. And this is before 2004. So Ukraine was being used as a cutout for the U.S. to traffic weapons into Iraq. And then, of course, you have the Iraq invasion.

5:36 And you go into the 2004-2005 coup, which ironically was called the Orange Revolution, and basically that was to facilitate a Western-friendly president because, as Putin pointed out, they basically have rank-choice voting. So you have a two-round, by-the-Constitution voting where...

6:06 Um, you vote initially, if no one gets over 50%, the top two people go to a second round. That second round elected the guy that was Russian friendly. There was huge protest and I have the names of the people that did it. I won't bore you with all the details, but cause we're going to talk about it on Monday. There was huge protests. There was the CIA got involved.

6:36 and pushed to an unconstitutional third round, of which, of course, their chosen, the CIA West, chosen candidate won. And then all kinds of shit happened. And not good for Ukraine, not good for Russia, just good for NATO. So Ukrainians didn't learn, though. They didn't realize at that point they didn't have a democracy.

7:05 Despite the West screaming, oh my God, we got a democracy. So they dared to vote in a second time, the president that was Russian friendly in 2014. That's when they have the second CIA coup that Putin just talked about. And during this whole time, the stay behind units.

7:35 in the form of Reichssektor, Azov, all of these Nazi infiltrated stay-behind units are all of the ones creating the terror, both in the Donbass region, all over Ukraine, just going crazy, killing ethnic Russian people all over. So that's eventually what led to...

8:01 the taking of territory, both in the Crimea and in the Donbass region and the denazification. So when he says denazification, he's talking about Operation Gladio. So that's crazy. And I mean, that's just crazy. I just, I'm flabbergasted again. So.

8:26 I don't want y'all to think that, yeah, Operation Sheepskin. I don't want y'all to think you're wasting your time. Every single thing to anybody that has been watching our podcast that Putin said tonight did not come as a surprise because we know it all, right? I'm just flabbergasted. And at the end, what I thought was hilarious because we know

8:56 like the Khashoggi guy, all of these people that pretend to go around being reporters, they're not reporters, they're spies. And Putin looked right at Tucker and said, the special services, which is basically the CIA, is dealing with that guy and he's a freaking spy. And it'll be interesting to see what Tucker says in the aftermath of this, but he looked right at him and told him, I don't care what you think.

9:26 the man was a spy. So that is just crazy crap. But I don't know if it was on one of our podcasts or what, or just a conversation I was having. The first thing I said when that guy got arrested was he's a spy. And he said he was caught passing classified information. And if you go to a foreign country,

10:00 and you put your hands on classified information that's classified in that country, you are a spy. That is exactly what's happened. It doesn't matter if you're a journalist. In the United States, if a Russian journalist came over here and classified information of the U.S. government on his person and tried to leave the country, he'd be arrested as a spy.

10:33 That's the end of the story. So anyway, all right. So we're going to get through chapter, hopefully all of chapter nine tonight, which is just kind of so apropos and all this stuff we're talking about, talking about Skorzeny in the middle of talking about Nazis. So anyway, all right. So the name of chapter nine is called Deadly Intelligence.

11:06 Almost immediately after the meeting that the guy that we were talking about on Tuesday night, Colonel Posh, had with David Martin, Skorzeny left Europe on a short clandestine trip to Argentina. Passage through Spain was arranged by the Spanish security services. Let's see. Spanish intelligence.

11:33 were connected to the secret paramilitary group through Frank Ryan's World Commerce Company, which also had a satellite in Madrid, because of course they did. Oh, Liza, did I forget something? What did I forget? I don't know. Tell me, Liza. Tell me what I forgot. I don't know if she texted me. I don't know, Liza. Don't ask me that. Tell me what I forgot.

12:16 There was not anything specific in split screen. Oh, Liza, I'm sorry. My brain's fried. I don't remember the split screen. So what am I supposed to be splitting the screen with? Literally, my brain's fried. I just spent two hours like glued to the thing. I'm not very good at the dual tasking anymore. Signal test. Oh.

12:56 Okay, hold on just one second. Well, you got to get here on time, girlfriend. Let's see. Why can't I just do it on my phone? I don't know. We're going to have to work on that. My brain's too fried tonight. Sorry. When we do our one, I think we'll do one on Saturday morning. Anyway.

13:41 we'll figure it out i was listening to put yeah i can't do the split screen this time um but we'll do it before monday um what she's talking about i'm sorry to be distracted guys um on my two big researchers that help me is liza and bridget and um we want to have the capability as i'm going over the notes on um monday if

14:13 While they're looking at the chats and stuff like that, they can throw information to me that they know we've already gone over and that I have bookmarked and stuff. And so we did say earlier that we would test that capability out. We're just not going to be able to do it tonight. I'm sorry. It's too late. And I'm too excited for having been one step ahead with all of y'all. So anyway.

14:40 We will do that before Monday. Okay, so Skorzeny's in Argentina. Nothing in his notes tells the author what he was necessarily doing in there. But since there was such a large population of his former teammates in Argentina, it's not hard to guess that he was probably there recruiting for people.

15:08 declassified correspondence from February of 1949 from an unidentified intelligence official in the European Command Intel School in Oberremengau in Germany states that Skorzeny is once more with us and his services are being put to some use.

15:39 which is very interesting. The same letter mentions that he was not in Europe at the time and oral histories indicate that Skorzeny's destination was Argentina. So obviously the intel circuit that was in Europe was very aware of Skorzeny's whereabouts and that he didn't stay in South America very long. He returned to Europe within a matter of weeks.

16:11 But he says his paperwork has a couple of months of break in that area as far as documentation goes. The next significant event in the Skorzeny timeline was May of 1948, where he and Elsie met with two French intelligence officials, Pierre Bertraud, who was the director of the basic secret national entity.

16:42 in France, and Roger Wybot, W-Y-B-O-T. He's the head of the Directorate of Territorial Surveillance. That's crazy. That's in 1948. Both men were part of Compass Rose, which is another name for Operation Gladio, working alongside CIA and SPG to neutralize the communist networks threatening the internal stability of France. The anti-communist.

17:12 So basically what they're doing is setting up Gladio because there was not a lot of instability at the time. Highest levels of French intelligence with Skorzeny. The relationship between the two dramatically illustrates the level of secrecy and the importance of Comfort Rose within the France hierarchy. Pierre Bertraud.

17:42 was also well acquainted with the senior leadership of the U.S. intelligence agencies. He was a personal friend of James Angleton, a celebrated CIA officer and longtime chief of the counterintel office of the CIA. Bertraud's contact with Skorzeny implies that he had basically

18:15 was engaging in the foreign intelligence collections, and they were acting as foreign liaisons with each other. Angleton would have been in direct contact with Bertraud with intelligence matters as it related to France, because keep in mind, France-Paris is going to be the location for NATO as it stands up during this time frame. So they would have been in contact a lot. Oddly...

18:45 Pierre Bertraud and James Angleton even looked very similar. This was actually pointed out by a fellow CIA agent. Says there was an extraordinary physical resemblance, like they were actually of the same family, like very close to twins. The reason for the meeting was to offer Skorzeny asylum in France.

19:10 In return for lending his expertise to the anti-communist operations, i.e. standing up Gladio units. Meetings with Skorzeny and follow-on meetings to cement Skorzeny's role in Compass Rose. They were going to provide a safe house for him to operate from and an actual cover. So his cover alias, while he's in France, is Rolf.

19:42 R-O-L-F, like wolf, but with an R. So clever. Hans Steiner Hart, like a hyphenated name, with a temporary resident card issued by the Paris district. The document is part of this, or is any paperwork that this guy bought, the author of the book. He and Elsie stayed at Pierre Bertraud's personal residence.

20:14 And then he was later transferred to a secret location southwest of the capital, which, of course, is where NATO is. So he's going to basically be working for NATO. So they co-locate him with NATO. Skorzeny's arrival there was significant for a couple of reasons.

20:38 Shows you the formation of the organizational intelligence apparatus that they're building. There's numerous unofficial committees and similar organizations that are formed under the NSC 10-2 that we talked about, the national security document, that called for the formation of private entities for the express purpose of covering for official covert activities.

21:07 Several of these had relevance to Skorzeny, but for brevity, the author will focus only on one, American Committee on United Europe, A-C-U-E, a Q, which maintains a course to the dramatic conclusion of this book. A Q, I don't know what that means, Liz. Moscow is on fire. What's that mean?

21:45 AQ was set up in April 1948, two months before Skorzeny's arrival in Paris. The basic purpose of AQ, hold on, we got late breaking news. Let's see, developing multiple buildings are burning in Moscow right now. Oh, what the heck?

22:23 Somebody upset with Vladimir Putin. What in the world? Okay, so Liza, if you wouldn't mind, go ahead and go over to Telegram and look at some of the posts over there and see if you can get any information from there. Yeah, that's crazy shit. Let me...

22:59 I mean, this isn't live. So y'all can follow that link that she just put in there. And yeah, just keep us updated, Liza. That's crazy. Literally burning. Yeah. So yeah. Oh my gosh. All right. So a queue was set up in April 1948, two months before Skorzeny's arrival in Paris. So they're setting up another front company like the World Commerce.

23:34 The basic purpose of ACUE was to counter the communist threat in Europe by promoting European political integration. The structure of ACUE was designed by William Donovan of the OSS and Alan Dulles, who is between the OSS and his CIA job. Dulles was not officially in the U.S. government at the time.

24:01 but due to his extensive OSS background, was considered an advisor. So in addition to helping Donovan with the queue, Allen was also reviewing the internal structure and operations of what's going to be the CIA. Dulles served as vice chairman of a queue until he left to take the position of the CIA's deputy director for plans at the personal request of then director.

24:32 Walter Bedell Smith. Others involved in a queue included Winston Churchill. The organization was funded by both the Rockefeller and the Ford Foundation. On the board of a queue were an amazing and powerful group of intelligence officials and businessmen. These included General Walter Bedell Smith, who was the CIA director from 50 to 53, Paul Hoffman,

25:05 of the Economic Cooperation Administration, who replaced Dulles after the latter's departure for the CIA, and General Lucius D. Clay. Another board member was journalist Thomas Braden. He was also in the OSS. Braden parachuted behind enemy lines and was considered a protege to General Donovan. In 1950,

25:31 Braden joined the CIA and took the reins of the International Organizations Division, IOD, a covert group that handled clandestine activities of global corporate entities. After Braden left the CIA, he was replaced as head of the IOD by Ben Bradley. Bradley would in turn be replaced by Deputy Cord Meyer Jr.

26:00 All three of these men, Braden, Bradley, and Meyer, all worked on covert projects carried out by Frank Wisner at the time Skorzeny was being utilized as an asset. Finally, a Q board member, Charles Hook, important to this history since he was chairman of Armco Steel Corporation, whose representative in Paris was Colonel Robert Solberg. Ooh, Solberg.

26:31 We previously learned Colonel Solberg was deputy to General Donovan at the OSS and had links to the World Commerce Corporation. So that's interesting because Solberg also was related to the whole trial situation as well at Nuremberg. America Rolling Mill Company, which is what ARMCO stands for.

27:03 was established in Middleton, Middletown, Ohio in 1810. The company had its beginnings in the American steel roofing company located in Cincinnati. Armco was a leader in producing rolled steel sheets and an innovator of new processes and efficiencies. Armco is one of the earliest Ohio companies to establish a shop committee, which allowed workers to organize.

27:33 Shop committees were the predecessor to unionization. Armco Shop Committees was formed in 1904, making it one of the first companies in Ohio to take this step and also first in the nation. Armco changed its name to Armco Steel Corporation, but kept the old company acronym. It exists today as AK Steel Corporation.

27:59 It's highly likely that Charles Hook was aware of the clandestine use of Otto Skorzeny, given the documented connection between him and people in the Skorzeny paperwork, like Colonel Solberg, and his position in AQ. Steel products from Armco was a major business activity in the Skorzeny papers, and it appears to be a primary conduit for conducting his covert activities. It is fascinating to speculate if a corporate headquarters like Armco

28:30 was the source of the code word for Operation Ohio, which was covered earlier. Armco representative Colonel Solberg would have been the logical choice to lead Donovan's SPG group in Paris. Solberg was also the chairman of the American Chamber of Commerce in Paris during this, which added to another aspect as far as a cover to what he was actually doing.

28:59 This is very important because this is like corporate espionage when you're using these companies as front companies. Okay, so another time out here. Bridget just got us something. Multiple buildings on fire in Moscow. At the time, Putin interviewed Tucker.

29:33 So, yeah, that's the same video. Yeah, that's so, you know, but that, you know, it's times like this when it sucks to be right. I could have told you this. This is this is literally the CIA. This is Gladio. This is everything. This is terrorist. Everything that we have learned about. There is literally nothing that these people won't stop.

30:10 So Putin outs the CIA. He does it on a forum with a million people around the world watching. Please, right now, take a second and pray for Tucker's safety. I don't know when he finished this interview, but he will be a target. Not like he wasn't a target. They didn't like him. He will be a target.

30:38 This is the one critical sin you cannot do as far as these people are concerned. Because Putin, in probably the biggest fashion in my lifetime, just outed the CIA and their participation in Gladio, in the coups around the world. He's in Belgrade. Okay.

31:08 Um, yeah, just pray for his safety. Um, all right, back to the story. So a new organization, um, that came about as part of Compass Rose and was linked to the CIA, French intelligence, Donovan's SPG group, and Otto Skorzeny was called in English, peace and liberty, like Pax et Liberté, peace and liberty.

31:41 which first appeared in March 1949 in Paris, but later emerged in many other countries of Europe, which tells you CIA. It was a private group organized in France to combat communism. In reality, it was a highly classified covert operation conducted by the principal players engaged in Operation Compass. Gladio, quote,

32:08 Parallel government sponsored anti-communist psychological warfare agency. That's what peace and liberty is. So you go and set up a domestic terror network and these effers call it peace and liberty. So back in 1949, they were mocking us even then. They're about to blow up a whole bunch of people.

32:40 killed tens of thousands, if not millions of people all over the world, and they call it peace and liberty. Just let that sink in. Formed only one month before Pierre Bertraud and Roger Wybot made their approach to Skorzeny, peace and liberty was publicly dedicated to countering Soviet propaganda initiatives, although several branches carried out illicit covert action operations against domestic opponents.

33:12 The similarities between peace and liberty operations and covert assignment tasks to Skorzeny by Roger Wybot and Pierre Bertraud were not coincidental. Of course, they're not because it's all Operation Gladio. One of the French ministers, Jules Mock, another seasoned French resistance guy who first initiated the peace and liberty. Oh, so I guess he's the guy that was going to be the first head of it.

33:47 So Pierre Bertraud actually worked for this minister, Jewel Mock. Minister Mock was a fiery anti-communist or, you know, Nazi, whichever, however you want to say that. He served as minister of the interior from 47 to 50, minister of defense from 50 to 51. Pierre Bertraud served as Mock's chief of staff from 46 to 47 when Mock was the public works and transportation guy.

34:17 Mock had used an iron fist to suppress the communist strikes. Mock's methods greatly impressed. And so his ruthlessness is what caught American authorities' attention. They love that in the people they work with. So he soon became a partner in the advancement of U.S. covert operations in the country. Mock had personally been involved in the creation of a clandestine paralyzed police unit.

34:50 and other covert organizations like Peace and Liberty. Because another characteristic of all of this is that they basically have whatever within whatever. So they'll have a police force within the police force. They'll have an intelligence agency within the intelligence agency. And a lot of times it was done via secret societies like lodges. The man Mock selected to lead the paramilitary

35:21 anti-communist police force was Gene Dides, D-I-D-E-S, a veteran police commissioner heavily engaged in the secret war against communism. This is just code words for saying Gladio. He was directed, let's see, during World War II, he directed the internal security units called special brigades in Vichy to hunt down internal enemies, which

35:50 They characterize as mainly communists. Dydes believed that the French Communist Party and other communist political groups must be destroyed. You know, oh, excuse me, because that's not what we do in democracies. We don't do it in the political realm. We just kill them. To fight the danger of communism, France had organized cells of restrained but efficient policemen. Gladio networks.

36:20 Deitz frequently attended meetings of peace and liberty since he worked closely with Pierre Bertraud and Robert Wybutt. Deitz himself had been recruited for his ranks, had recruited former Nazis to be working for him in that secret police organization.

36:53 people that worked in Goebbels' propaganda ministry, people that were considered Belgian Black Knights. He hired them all. Mock selected John Paul David, a young political leader active in France, elite circles. With a small staff of 12, David pursued an aggressive information operations effort and produced numerous provocative leaflets and flyers.

37:23 designed to highlight the French communists as a Soviet fifth column in France. David directed the group's international committee that synchronized the activities of branches established in other countries, including Belgium, Great Britain, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Turkey, Vietnam, West Germany. All of those were the premier Gladio units that we've read all about, every single one of them.

37:53 This is just another key element. And then he goes on to say, these are the countries where stay behind forces were all implemented because it's the same thing. All right. And then my favorite, in not a good way, General Lyman Lemitsker. Everybody remembers him because he was the guy that come up with Operation Northwood that we learned about.

38:23 That was going to kill a bunch of Americans so we could justify a ground invasion of Cuba. And that JFK, after suggesting Northwood, fired him, but did it in a way to reassign him to NATO, which happened to be in Paris at the time. And then 10 months later, Gladio NATO operated people murdered JFK. So that's that Lyman.

38:52 limits curve but at that time because that's in the future 63 we're back in the late 40s he's a major general and set up a nato link so listen to this um at the time of the events and activities described that we've just been talking about uh new european security agreements were being drawn up to address the soviet threat you know because that's what we're going to do

39:21 Again, these developments would eventually impact Otto Skorzeny in a very significant way. In March of 1948, the Treaty of Brussels, a mutual defense pact between Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, and the United Kingdom was signed. This was the front runner to NATO. So they're basically setting up NATO at this point. All right, we'll look at that link in just a minute. Let's finish with Limitsker.

39:55 So they're setting up NATO. Concerns over the military strength of these nations led to talks between them and the Pentagon. The result of the NATO Mutual Defense Alliance, a unified command of Western countries under American leadership, headquartered in Paris, NATO was brought into existence on April 4th, 1949, with the signing of this charter in Washington, D.C.

40:21 Among the immediate challenges for American planners was a transforming of NATO combat forces to be ready to deter the Soviet Union, who has posed no threat at all. Unfortunately, at the time NATO was formed, most members of the new alliance were very weak. Economic recovery was a major priority in every nation leading the restrictions on because it.

40:48 led to restrictions on money for national defense because, you know, some people were starving. Within these concerns, the critical issues, such as differences between the member states' equipment, logistics, training, tactics, command structures, and other stuff, complicated the integration and readiness. For this reason, a secret military assistance program was created by Americans to bring their NATO partners up to speed as quickly as possible. The program,

41:18 also included both covert and overt arms programs. These were expanded to other areas of the world threatened by Soviet expansionism, such as the Middle East and Africa. Now, let me say this again. I just said that in setting up NATO at the very beginning against a threat that basically doesn't exist,

41:46 The program included overt and covert arms deals to include the Middle East and Africa. Why? Because that's where their colonies are. Under assistance to these third world and developing countries was a matter of great security and secrecy, especially in areas where U.S. presence conflicted with internal politics. So in other words,

42:22 Just to make sure we're all on the same sheet of music. This is saying they're going to go to the Middle East and Africa and set up stay behind units. That's what that is saying. In areas that conflict with the U.S.'s way of doing business. Because you're not allowed to do anything the U.S. doesn't like. The man confronted with the tremendous challenges of training and equipping U.S. allies and its proxies for the first Secretary of Defense.

42:52 James Forrestal, who held the post through the initial critical years of 47 through 49. Forrestal selected Major General Lyman Lemitsker as the lead for American involvement in NATO. Secretary Forrestal issued orders to create a mutual security organization involving the U.S. and Western states.

43:21 and others with reasons to fear Soviet aggression. Forrestal was explicit in his instructions to Lemitsker, who, quote, were going through with this alliance. It's no use of the U.S. government having an alliance with only weak allies, and all our allies are weak. I want you to begin thinking of putting together a military assistance program, unquote.

43:50 Here, Forrestal was talking about the overt assistance, but it is the hidden pieces of this program that Defense Secretary knew carried the greatest danger. The stay-behind unit, hidden within the military assistant program, was highly classified and neither the U.S. nor its allies could ill afford to have these sensitive war plans compromised, allowing the Soviets to develop countermeasures.

44:16 It should be reiterated that stay-behind units were an integral part of nuclear war contingency planning. To emphasize this point, we recall Defense Secretary Forstall's words of caution to Lemensker stating his role would be super top secret. The Secretary was adamant, you can't even breathe about this. You can barely think about it. General Lemensker would later remember, without reference to stay-behinds, that he could not remember an issue.

44:44 with the possible exception of the Manhattan Project, that was shrouded in so much secrecy. Oh, maybe JFK's murder that you were complicit in. This paragraph also underscores the level of caution that would have existed among those with knowledge of Skorzeny's involvement in the stay-behind units. So, I'm going to stop this for just a second. General Lemitsker, as a two-star general, sets up the European...

45:14 ally countries, Middle East and African countries stay behind units for General Forrestal. Okay, so this supposedly happens in around April 1949. Guess when General Forrestal dies? He is thrown out of the top floor window.

45:50 after he is basically um ushered away saying he's insane they put him in um i don't know if it was bethesda uh or uh um i think i think it was bethesda medical center um like on the seventh floor in a psych ward and somebody comes along and throws him out a window what

46:27 He just told them to set up all these secret units. Did he start having second thoughts? Did he find out that it had nothing to do with anti-communist at all in this entire time they were going to be using it for domestic purposes? Why else do you throw somebody out the window that's a retired four-star general who's now the Secretary of Defense? Because he knows something.

46:56 But the most classified program he was working on was creating stay behind units. That's scary shit. All right. Let me click on this link that y'all just sent. See if we got any other news. All right. So the next chapter is about.

47:28 I'm going to go. We may not get through this whole chapter because we're already at nine o'clock. I do want to cover this next subchapter because it specifically talks about the stay behind units. It was the military assistance program associated with NATO that Skorzeny would eventually become deeply enmeshed in. October 1949, Roger Wybot and Pierre Bertraud.

47:54 made a trip to Washington to meet with CIA Director Walter Bedell Smith. The meeting was likely to discuss details of the ongoing anti-communist projects, which is Gladio, to include the use of peace and liberty. Logically, discussion points at the meeting should have also included Otto and Elsie, who at that very moment were working with Weibut and Bertraud in an

48:26 operation involving the cia and it was even feasible that they were the main purpose of the reason of the meeting um okay the thing just finally opened says a fire broke out in a high-rise building that had 400 residents that were evacuated this is reported by russian media as mass propaganda it is reported that the fire broke out in a six-story

48:58 building in Leningradsky Prospect near a metro station. The fire has been given an increased rank. Burning area is 4,000 square meters. We will remind earlier it was reported that a large-scale fire broke out in the center of Moscow. Rescuers cannot put it out. In addition, we previously informed the communists that a communist office caught fire in the center.

49:28 They don't have communist offices there. Sorry. Move up a few decades. So that's it. Just a building on fire. Just a building on fire. Coincidental timing. Okay. So back to the book. The CIA director's log indicates that among those present was the head of the CIA staff C, which is counterintelligence. And at the time that was William K. Harvey.

50:04 This is particularly noteworthy as Harvey will later, in 1958, be assigned as the CIA point person tasked to develop the agency's executive action program for assassinating foreign leaders called QJWIN. This program will be covered later in more detail. In 1951, Harvey would...

50:31 move from the Staff C to assume leadership in Berlin, taking over CIA operations in the hotbed of the Cold War. Harvey's operation would become known as the Berlin Operations Base, or BOB. And basically what that's telling you, that's exactly where Galen is. He's now going to basically be Galen's handler.

50:57 Okay, that's clear text of that. Galen's BND, which is the German, at the time, West Germany, CIA, is ran by Galen. And Galen set it up in Berlin. So he's basically going to be holding hands with the Nazi General Galen. Other CIA officials at the director's meeting were Park Armstrong from the State Department.

51:26 Brigadier General E. Moore, who was the acting director of Air Force Intelligence, D. Milton Ladd from the FBI, Colonel Robert A. Show from the CIA Special Operations, and R. Kingley, R.A. Richard, who was the personal assistant to the director, as well as two other people whose names are redacted.

51:52 He actually thinks the two people's names that were redacted was the Roger Wybot and the Peter Bertraud, the guys that have been setting this all up in Paris. During the early stages of World War II, Colonel Shaw had served, and you spell his name S-C-H-O-W, Shaw, had served as military attache in Paris under Robert Murphy.

52:22 assisting in the coordination of the French resistance activities, along with Colonel Solberg. That guy shows up everywhere. When Skorzeny arrived in Paris in 1949, Sko was a staff officer on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, having come directly from duty in Paris. His intelligence positions would indicate that he is one of the senior American officials in the know about Otto Skorzeny.

52:52 Shortly after the meeting with Wybet and Bertraud, with Director Smith, a private American support group called the American Friends of Peace and Liberty appeared on the scene to support John Paul David's efforts from the United States. Research conducted by historian Danielle Gansler, whose book we've already read, revealed that

53:16 Peace and Liberty was a large CIA front organization heavily financed by the agency. The agency also funded satellite organizations in European countries. It is known that the CIA branch of Peace and Liberty in Italy went under the name Peace and Liberty and it had its headquarters in Milan, which if you remember, Milan is where that bank was, the Bank of Ambrosia, that they used extensively in Operation Gladio.

53:45 where, what's his name? Calvi, C-A-L-V-I, was the administrator who ends up hanging from a bridge in London with the rocks in his pocket. So you see how such a small world this is? Peace and liberty operations may also have included assassination, as described in Europe in 1945, an encyclopedia. Quote, several leading peace and liberty activists

54:14 activists were directly implicated in anti-constitutional political activity including serious acts of violence and anti-government coup plots unquote the former member of the belgium peace and liberty organization confessed on his deathbed that the group had carried out the 1950 assassination of julian lahar head of the communist party in belgium and remember in belgium

54:41 Belgium was just gross. That's where that Mark Dutro, the child molester guy with dead kids in his basement, was arrested. Operation Gladio was totally out of control in Belgium. So 1950 may be one of their first assassinations as part of this network. Okay, so I think we probably can stop there for the evening.

55:11 We're going to talk about Clifford Forster. And interestingly enough, he ran the New York version of Peace and Liberty and was also a member of the American Civil Liberties Union, which tells you that the American Civil Liberties Union

55:44 basically is a CIA front too. So you heard it here first. We will keep an eye. Weren't we just talking about, yes, we were just talking about Belgium. I'm telling you, this is such a small world. Once you start digging into this, the whole world just becomes so small and there's such an orbit of

56:15 places and people and things that every time you take a step forward, you're bumping in, you take a step to the left, you're bumping in, you take a step to the right, you're bumping in. I don't know my right and left. It's a crazy small world. We come across the same names all the time. So thank you all for being here. Sorry, it was such a hectic night. It was such a crazy.

56:47 interview that Putin did with, uh, Tucker. It's just so crazy. I, it's still, I'm, things are going over in the back of my mind that he said, I kind of live, uh, tweeted it out on, um, Twitter, the different things that was going on. I'll have to go back over my notes, but, um, it is definitely, um, a pat on all of y'all's back that's worked so hard with me, um, in digging up all of this information to know that we knew this and we've been talking about it.

57:17 um, for months now. Um, yeah, it just is crazy. Yes. And Bridget, thank you for reminding me, please, um, click on the thumbs up button on your, um, rumble app or on the internet app and follow us. Um, we appreciate all of your support. Um, take, uh, take an opportunity to, um, copy this link.

57:44 and post it. We need eight people. I'm going to do Julie's job tonight. We need eight people to get us over the 700 mark. I remember when we were still looking for the 300 and 400 mark. Again, I just really appreciate everybody being here and working through our history so that we all have a firm grasp of what it is that actually has gone on so that we can see what's currently going on.

58:12 I do want to plug our spaces for Monday night because thanks to Bridget and Liza, we have found some chilling, chilling information about the spillover of what's going on in Ukraine as far as the Nazi stay-behind units and how applicable that is in the United States.

58:44 um, that we're going to present at the spaces meeting, um, at six o'clock on X on Monday night. Cause it's really, we go from Greece to Ukraine to the United States. And when you see the, um, application of all of that, um, direct association and what has already gone here, gone on here.

59:13 And this has been going on for decades. So what I tell people, everybody keeps saying that the fear is that these people coming over the border and the ramping up of how scared we need to be of China, kind of what Putin was talking about tonight, the boogeyman. And how many times have I typed that word? I've typed that word boogeyman a million times.

59:42 That's exactly what they do. They have to create a false boogeyman. So if you zoom out to the 30,000 foot look, who's the false boogeyman today? China. What did that guy just do with that one video that Tucker interviewed? Oh my gosh, these Chinese people. Well, the Chinese people are building a bunch of roads in South America. And I'm, please don't even go there. I'm not a China apologist.

1:00:12 But they are making China to be the boogeyman. There's a reason for that. If they are planning and everybody keeps saying, oh, all of these new people that are just coming across the border is going to do all of these terror events. What if the terror cells have been here for decades? What if they're going to blame all of these people they're importing right now for the terrorism?

1:00:41 that they want to unleash over the next year leading up to the election to try to scare the bejesus out of everybody but they're going to blame these new people i'm sorry i don't buy it you don't come into a country um and again just wait till i show you what they've already set up the training infrastructure they have set up the fact that they are taking these people

1:01:09 that they recruit in the United States to Ukraine to train them. And this is not recent. This has been going on for decades. They were training domestic terrorists inside of Ukraine in these Nazi enclaves. So by disrupting them, Putin could have saved a whole bunch of countries. Think about that. He could have been blowing up.

1:01:43 these training locations that have been supplying trained assassins and trained domestic terrorists to Western countries. I know that's a lot to handle, but we're going to make the case on Monday. So I hope you'll all be there. Anyway, that's it for tonight. Thanks for being here. I will. So tonight's Thursday.

1:02:15 Um, let me see what our schedule is. Um, cause I do want to mention that at the end, since we're here. Um, let me go to my, uh, spaces, um, Twitter. Where's my pinned? Well, not there. Let me look on true social. Cause I have our pin schedule. Uh, we will be.

1:03:09 Friday, tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. So we'll do one more tomorrow at 10 a.m. We'll finish up nine at that point. So again, thanks for being here. Appreciate it. See you tomorrow morning.

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Otto Skorzeny moved_to Argentina book_quoted ▶ 11:06

“Almost immediately after the meeting that the guy that we were talking about on Tuesday night, Colonel Posh, had with David Martin, Skorzeny left Europe on a short clandestine trip to Argentina. Passa…”

World Commerce Company front_for Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 11:33

“were connected to the secret paramilitary group through Frank Ryan's World Commerce Company, which also had a satellite in Madrid, because of course they did. Oh, Liza, did I forget something? What di…”

European Command Intel School spied_on Otto Skorzeny documented ▶ 15:08

“declassified correspondence from February of 1949 from an unidentified intelligence official in the European Command Intel School in Oberremengau in Germany states that Skorzeny is once more with us a…”

Pierre Bertraud headed Basic Secret National Entity book_quoted ▶ 16:11

“But he says his paperwork has a couple of months of break in that area as far as documentation goes. The next significant event in the Skorzeny timeline was May of 1948, where he and Elsie met with tw…”

Otto Skorzeny moved_to France book_quoted ▶ 16:11

Operation Gladio targeted_for_regime_change France book_quoted ▶ 16:42

“in France, and Roger Wybot, W-Y-B-O-T. He's the head of the Directorate of Territorial Surveillance. That's crazy. That's in 1948. Both men were part of Compass Rose, which is another name for Operati…”

Roger Wybot member_of Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 16:42

Pierre Bertraud member_of Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 16:42

Roger Wybot headed DST book_quoted ▶ 16:42

James Jesus Angleton headed CIA book_quoted ▶ 17:42

“was also well acquainted with the senior leadership of the U.S. intelligence agencies. He was a personal friend of James Angleton, a celebrated CIA officer and longtime chief of the counterintel offic…”

Pierre Bertraud relationship_with James Jesus Angleton book_quoted ▶ 17:42

Pierre Bertraud recruited Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 19:10

“In return for lending his expertise to the anti-communist operations, i.e. standing up Gladio units. Meetings with Skorzeny and follow-on meetings to cement Skorzeny's role in Compass Rose. They were …”

Otto Skorzeny lived_in Paris book_quoted ▶ 20:14

“And then he was later transferred to a secret location southwest of the capital, which, of course, is where NATO is. So he's going to basically be working for NATO. So they co-locate him with NATO. Sk…”

Otto Skorzeny member_of NATO book_quoted ▶ 20:14

Allen Dulles founded American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 23:34

“The basic purpose of ACUE was to counter the communist threat in Europe by promoting European political integration. The structure of ACUE was designed by William Donovan of the OSS and Alan Dulles, w…”

William J. Donovan founded American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 23:34

Allen Dulles appointed CIA book_quoted ▶ 24:01

“but due to his extensive OSS background, was considered an advisor. So in addition to helping Donovan with the queue, Allen was also reviewing the internal structure and operations of what's going to …”

Allen Dulles member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 24:01

Ford Foundation funded American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 24:32

“Walter Bedell Smith. Others involved in a queue included Winston Churchill. The organization was funded by both the Rockefeller and the Ford Foundation. On the board of a queue were an amazing and pow…”

Lucius Clay member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 24:32

Winston Churchill member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 24:32

Walter Bedell Smith headed CIA book_quoted ▶ 24:32

Paul Hoffman member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 24:32

Rockefeller Foundation funded American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 24:32

Paul Hoffman headed Economic Cooperation Administration book_quoted ▶ 25:05

“of the Economic Cooperation Administration, who replaced Dulles after the latter's departure for the CIA, and General Lucius D. Clay. Another board member was journalist Thomas Braden. He was also in …”

Thomas Braden member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 25:05

Ben Bradlee succeeded Thomas Braden book_quoted ▶ 25:31

“Braden joined the CIA and took the reins of the International Organizations Division, IOD, a covert group that handled clandestine activities of global corporate entities. After Braden left the CIA, h…”

Cord Meyer succeeded Ben Bradlee book_quoted ▶ 25:31

Thomas Braden appointed International terrorist organizations book_quoted ▶ 25:31

Charles M. Cook headed Armco Steel Corporation book_quoted ▶ 26:00

“All three of these men, Braden, Bradley, and Meyer, all worked on covert projects carried out by Frank Wisner at the time Skorzeny was being utilized as an asset. Finally, a Q board member, Charles Ho…”

Charles M. Cook member_of American Committee on a United Europe book_quoted ▶ 26:00

Robert Solberg member_of Armco Steel Corporation book_quoted ▶ 26:00

Robert Solberg member_of World Commerce Company book_quoted ▶ 26:31

“We previously learned Colonel Solberg was deputy to General Donovan at the OSS and had links to the World Commerce Corporation. So that's interesting because Solberg also was related to the whole tria…”

Armco Steel Corporation front_for Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 27:59

“It's highly likely that Charles Hook was aware of the clandestine use of Otto Skorzeny, given the documented connection between him and people in the Skorzeny paperwork, like Colonel Solberg, and his …”

Robert Solberg headed SPG book_quoted ▶ 28:30

“was the source of the code word for Operation Ohio, which was covered earlier. Armco representative Colonel Solberg would have been the logical choice to lead Donovan's SPG group in Paris. Solberg was…”

Robert Solberg headed American Chamber of Commerce in Italy book_quoted ▶ 28:30

Peace and Liberty front_for Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 31:41

“which first appeared in March 1949 in Paris, but later emerged in many other countries of Europe, which tells you CIA. It was a private group organized in France to combat communism. In reality, it wa…”

Jules Moch founded Peace and Liberty book_quoted ▶ 33:12

“The similarities between peace and liberty operations and covert assignment tasks to Skorzeny by Roger Wybot and Pierre Bertraud were not coincidental. Of course, they're not because it's all Operatio…”

Jules Moch headed France book_quoted ▶ 33:47

“So Pierre Bertraud actually worked for this minister, Jewel Mock. Minister Mock was a fiery anti-communist or, you know, Nazi, whichever, however you want to say that. He served as minister of the int…”

Pierre Bertraud member_of Jules Moch book_quoted ▶ 33:47

Jules Moch recruited Général Didès book_quoted ▶ 34:50

“and other covert organizations like Peace and Liberty. Because another characteristic of all of this is that they basically have whatever within whatever. So they'll have a police force within the pol…”

Général Didès headed Special Brigades book_quoted ▶ 35:21

“anti-communist police force was Gene Dides, D-I-D-E-S, a veteran police commissioner heavily engaged in the secret war against communism. This is just code words for saying Gladio. He was directed, le…”

Général Didès member_of Peace and Liberty book_quoted ▶ 36:20

“Deitz frequently attended meetings of peace and liberty since he worked closely with Pierre Bertraud and Robert Wybutt. Deitz himself had been recruited for his ranks, had recruited former Nazis to be…”

Jules Moch recruited Jean-Paul David book_quoted ▶ 36:53

“people that worked in Goebbels' propaganda ministry, people that were considered Belgian Black Knights. He hired them all. Mock selected John Paul David, a young political leader active in France, eli…”

Général Didès recruited Belgian Black Knights book_quoted ▶ 36:53

Peace and Liberty operated_in Belgium book_quoted ▶ 37:23

“designed to highlight the French communists as a Soviet fifth column in France. David directed the group's international committee that synchronized the activities of branches established in other cou…”

Peace and Liberty operated_in Italy book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Peace and Liberty operated_in United Kingdom book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Peace and Liberty operated_in Netherlands book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Peace and Liberty operated_in Greece book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Peace and Liberty operated_in Vietnam book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Peace and Liberty operated_in Turkey book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Peace and Liberty operated_in Norway book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Jean-Paul David headed Peace and Liberty book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Peace and Liberty operated_in West Germany book_quoted ▶ 37:23

Lyman Lemnitzer proposed Operation Northwoods book_quoted ▶ 37:53

“This is just another key element. And then he goes on to say, these are the countries where stay behind forces were all implemented because it's the same thing. All right. And then my favorite, in not…”

Treaty of Brussels founded NATO documented ▶ 39:21

“Again, these developments would eventually impact Otto Skorzeny in a very significant way. In March of 1948, the Treaty of Brussels, a mutual defense pact between Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg,…”

NATO located_in Paris documented ▶ 39:55

“So they're setting up NATO. Concerns over the military strength of these nations led to talks between them and the Pentagon. The result of the NATO Mutual Defense Alliance, a unified command of Wester…”

James Forrestal appointed Lyman Lemnitzer documented ▶ 42:52

“James Forrestal, who held the post through the initial critical years of 47 through 49. Forrestal selected Major General Lyman Lemitsker as the lead for American involvement in NATO. Secretary Forrest…”

James Forrestal ordered_assassination_of Lyman Lemnitzer host_asserted ▶ 42:52

James Forrestal died_in Naval Medical Center Bethesda host_asserted ▶ 45:50

“after he is basically um ushered away saying he's insane they put him in um i don't know if it was bethesda uh or uh um i think i think it was bethesda medical center um like on the seventh floor in a…”

Roger Waters did_business_with Walter Bedell Smith documented ▶ 47:54

“made a trip to Washington to meet with CIA Director Walter Bedell Smith. The meeting was likely to discuss details of the ongoing anti-communist projects, which is Gladio, to include the use of peace …”

Otto Skorzeny member_of Peace and Liberty host_asserted ▶ 47:54

Pierre Bertraud did_business_with Walter Bedell Smith documented ▶ 47:54

William Harvey headed CIA documented ▶ 49:28

“They don't have communist offices there. Sorry. Move up a few decades. So that's it. Just a building on fire. Just a building on fire. Coincidental timing. Okay. So back to the book. The CIA director'…”

William Harvey founded QJWIN documented ▶ 50:04

“This is particularly noteworthy as Harvey will later, in 1958, be assigned as the CIA point person tasked to develop the agency's executive action program for assassinating foreign leaders called QJWI…”

William Harvey moved_to West Berlin documented ▶ 50:31

“move from the Staff C to assume leadership in Berlin, taking over CIA operations in the hotbed of the Cold War. Harvey's operation would become known as the Berlin Operations Base, or BOB. And basical…”

William Harvey spied_on Reinhard Gehlen host_asserted ▶ 50:31

CIA front_for Peace and Liberty book_quoted ▶ 52:52

“Shortly after the meeting with Wybet and Bertraud, with Director Smith, a private American support group called the American Friends of Peace and Liberty appeared on the scene to support John Paul Dav…”

Peace and Liberty located_in Milan documented ▶ 53:16

“Peace and Liberty was a large CIA front organization heavily financed by the agency. The agency also funded satellite organizations in European countries. It is known that the CIA branch of Peace and …”

CIA funded Peace and Liberty book_quoted ▶ 53:16

Julian Lahant headed Belgian Communist Party documented ▶ 54:14

“activists were directly implicated in anti-constitutional political activity including serious acts of violence and anti-government coup plots unquote the former member of the belgium peace and libert…”

Peace and Liberty carried_out_attack Julian Lahant documented ▶ 54:14

Clifford Forster headed Peace and Liberty host_asserted ▶ 55:11

“We're going to talk about Clifford Forster. And interestingly enough, he ran the New York version of Peace and Liberty and was also a member of the American Civil Liberties Union, which tells you that…”

CIA front_for American Civil Liberties Union host_asserted ▶ 55:11