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OPERATION GLADIO Exposed with COLONEL TOWNER in The Skorzeny Papers Chapter 6 - 7

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0:28 Okay, let me know that my sound's good. Wait till the feed comes over from StreamYard. Can everybody hear me? All right, I'm still waiting for the live stream to come over. Okay, so if y'all can see me, my screen for some reason on Rumble is black. I know it's working on...
2:11 uh, stream yard. So if y'all can see me and thank you for the hat, let me just tell you, um, I have very curly hair and I usually, um, blow dry it straight. So anytime rain comes through Florida, which is like on a daily basis, right? Um, my hair just goes.
2:31 So I came out here in my command post and I was getting everything ready and I walked by the mirror and I'm like, oh my God, where's my hat? My hair is just like frizzed out like three times the size that it normally is. So yeah, it was crazy. So I'm glad I looked at it before I popped my computer open because I'd have been frantically scurrying around for my hat. Anyway, this is my beach hat. It stays in the overhead.
3:01 cabinet right above the bed here. So I'm like scurrying around. I have some fancy ones. They would look stupid, but anyway. All right. We're going to get started. I wish my video was working on here. Anyway, there it goes. All right. Yeah, that's a cool hat. No, I'm just teasing. All right. We're on chapter six. The name of the chapter is White Rabbit Sends a Letter.
3:36 So while Skorzeny and Rad, his partner, ventured out of the camp on work release, other big developments were transpiring at the higher level. The time frame that we're talking about is 1948. General Clay, who was the military governor of Germany, like MacArthur was the military general of Japan, had become firmly convinced.
4:06 of an imminent Soviet invasion of Western Europe and issued a warning that the U.S. and its allies must prepare for a contingency. So let me just go ahead and say this, that I know that I'm like out on a limb on this, but I honestly do not believe this Soviet scare nonsense. I understand why they did it, but
4:36 I have not seen any actual proof. I've seen in multiple books them all saying the same thing. But I also know that this was all a guise to drum up the justification for keeping Gladio also. So anyway, it also would justify keeping somebody like Skorzeny on your payroll.
5:12 when otherwise it may be scrutinized and deemed too risky. So, Liza, are you having computer issues? You're not on, lady. Oh, honey, I'm on. So, and two sentences down, it says, this accelerated stay behind preparations and covert operations in general, which, as I've said repeatedly,
5:43 It is an excuse that they used or a justification for back in Washington. If you keep saying something often enough, people tend to start believing it. But I have yet to see any classified documents that have come out as a freedom of information, anything that would justify one day the Soviet Union.
6:13 is fighting with you and has lost 30 million people. Or the next day, all of a sudden, everybody has this petrification that they're going to be overrun by Soviets. There was no indication that any of that was true. And we did learn in one of our books that during, and I can't remember if it was Yugoslavia, it was, or Bulgaria, maybe.
6:43 who was running arms and operating as part of Operation Gladio and doing things that was so awful that the Soviet Union actually expelled them because they didn't want to get blamed for what they were doing. So that's kind of the exact opposite of being warmongers. So Western Union Clandestine Committee, which was acronym WUCC.
7:17 We're just going to refer to it as the Western Union. In Paris, March of 1948, Western intelligence officials meeting under a veil of secrecy founded the Western Union Clandestine Committee. The Western Union Committee evolved out of an earlier British and French collaboration on stay behind networks for Plan Blue, which we talked about in an earlier chapter.
7:51 Highly confusing and unfortunate similarities between the Western Union Clandestine Committee, acronym WUCC, and the World Commerce Corporation, WCC. And remember that a lot of times these confusions is done on purpose. Just like when you name something, we found out that Operation Condor.
8:21 As it was referred to Operation Gladio throughout all of South America, they actually named something else in Vietnam Operation Condor. So when you try to research it, you're going to come up with something different. So a lot of these are plausible deniability similarities. Adding to the confusion, they were both intimately linked to the covert operations being carried out under Compass Rose. The WUCC.
8:52 was the designated controlling body for the formation of Western stay-behind units. In Daniel Ganser's book, which we've talked about, Operation Gladio, NATO Secret Army, the mission of the WUCC was to carry out peacetime preparations against the eventual Soviet invasion, as the excuse.
9:22 In April of 1948, President Truman signed the Marshall Plan, granting $5 billion in aid in $48. $5 billion to 16 European countries. Directing the Marshall Plan was Richard Bissell, a Yale graduate logistics expert, who would later rise to deputy director of the plans at the CIA. And keep in mind, plans.
9:52 unlike what it sounds, is the operational element that was deeply involved in Gladio. So you can imagine that if you're on the cusp of setting up Gladio and you need to put all of these, the weapons, the money, the comm equipment, the explosives, and you have to get them all into these.
10:21 buried treasure locations, you need a logistics person and a lot of money. Well, they had a lot of money. And that makes me want to go back and look at the entire Marshall Plan. Because apparently, just like the plan that was over in Tokyo that we're going to talk about in our next book, which was basically the hiding of all of the gold that the Japanese had stolen from everybody.
10:52 The Marshall Plan in the European theater was a guise to set up Operation Gladio. Bissell's role also included a top secret assignment to coordinate logistical and cover support to the CIA in the formation of covert networks to fight communism in Europe, which we know as Operation Gladio. Bissell worked very closely with the CIA in a private, basically like...
11:20 paramilitary organization with hidden contacts in the World Commerce Corporation. Hidden within the Marshall Plan was secret funding for covert operations which were transmitted through the Economic Cooperation Administration, ECA, to the CIA and other supporting elements of the clandestine schemes.
11:43 Three other major players were involved in the formation of the stay-behind units, all under the oversight of the WUCC. These were the intelligence services of various Western countries, like MI6 and the BND in Germany. The SPG network within the World Commerce Corporation, because that's like the privatized version. And regular military advisors.
12:15 Eventually, US military and CIA support will be merged and formalized under a cover of a military assistance advisory group, the MAGs. And again, that repeats itself everywhere. They had a MAG in Vietnam. They had one in Japan. They ended up one in the Philippines. That's kind of a common thing where they.
12:43 it's a merging of military and CIA operations for covert purposes of implementing foreign military aid, but carried a secret mission supporting the creation of stay behind units as well. So, and this is important because most people don't understand that the Department of Defense gets military aid that they give to countries that can pay for shit like this, but the State Department gets aid.
13:12 that they can use for stuff like this and the cia gets it so it's all of them collectively and that's why they set up these military assistant and advisory groups because the advisory groups are from the state department and the cia in april of 51 the wucc would be retitled to clandestine planning committee cpc and that's what we found out when we were reading
13:42 Paul Williams' book was embedded in NATO, the CPC. In October of that year, MAG became the secret cover for its operations. It's a vital point to remember when analyzing Otto Skorzeny's heavy involvement with MAG. In fact, it is so important that an entire section will be devoted when we get to Chapter 14 about how he worked in it.
14:14 Liza's saying he studied at Yale University, turning down a membership in Skull and Bones and graduating in 32. Oh my gosh, not another London School of Economics guy. Thank you, Liza, for pointing that out. Yeah, Bissell is bad news. And he's a reoccurring figure in all of our reading as well. May 1948, Donovan's SPG.
14:44 was fully operational, a fact confirmed by an unidentified CIA officer in confidential correspondence that month to the FBI agent Deloach, writing, quote, various remnants of the OSS personnel who had previously operated in and around Paris, France, were operating in the same locality on a private commercial basis under the leadership of their former director, William Donovan.
15:12 and that Donovan had made a trip to Paris for the purpose of surveying and inspecting the activities of this group. Now, again, this is why it's so important because we're on like our, you know, multiple books of this. Where was NATO originally set up in Paris, France? So this is yet another clue because we have the big picture now of...
15:42 correlating the stay-behind units under the management of NATO. Donovan is also confirmed to have been in Paris in that summer, along with several other former OSS officers, most of whom later joined the CIA. These included Milton Katz, K-A-T-Z, and Frank Lindsey, both in Paris as counsel to the Marshall Plan.
16:09 Also attached to the Marshall Plan was Donovan's former OSS Far East operative E. Howard Hunt, later of Watergate fame and key member of the Skorzeny story, because we're going to hear a lot more about him because he's in every one of our stories too. Also was William Casey, who we know became a director eventually of the CIA. And he was also the one that was involved in the Iran-Contra fiasco and the formation of...
16:41 a Panama-registered private anti-communist network eerily akin to Donovan's World Commerce Corporation. June of 1948, a date just ahead of Skorzeny's escape from Operation... Well, hold on. So there's a period of time where if you read a generic history of Skorzeny that he escaped, we're going to go over it, but...
17:12 He didn't actually escape. Operation Bloodstone, a major clandestine program involving anti-communists, which we translate as Operation Gladio, using East European immigrants, essentially former Nazi collaborators, was approved by the State Army Navy Air Force Coordination Committee.
17:40 or the SAN-ACC, which also becomes a part of NATO, this official body directed all U.S. covert activity. Selected to lead the Bloodstone Project was veteran OSS officer Frank Wisner, who had been very instrumental in the formation of the post-war intelligence network under Alan Dulles, i.e. Gladio.
18:09 Wisner fell under the State Department policy staff headed by Foreign Service Officer George Kennan. But remember, Wisner then gets moved over to the policy section of the CIA once it's up and running. Kennan was also an expert on the Soviet Union and the guiding force behind the Bloodstone Project. Wisner headed the Office of Special Projects, which implemented Bloodstone.
18:36 Two other important individuals active in the development of Bloodstone Project was diplomat Robert Murphy and a U.S. Army counterintelligence officer, Colonel Boris Pash, P-A-S-H. There is no revelation in this book more important than gaining the confirmation of Skorzeny's hidden role in the post-war covert operations than a document issued by the National Security Council on June 18, 1948.
19:07 The timing of the document is also important as it authorized only one month before Skorzeny's escape, which is in parentheses, from the holding facility that he was in in Germany. This landmark directive laid the foundations of the modern national security state. It vastly increased secret operations and
19:32 Issued specific guidance for all types of clandestine activity, including white and black propaganda, economic warfare, preventative direct action, including sabotage, assistance to underground resistant movements. And resistant movements is by their definition, not really resistance. It's whoever they want to come out on top. They become the resistance, not necessarily the good guys.
20:01 guerrilla formations, and use of refugee groups. And that's very important for modern day. They use the refugee groups. It also authorized violations of international law and deception in the interest of national security. It served as the baseline document for plausible deniability, planning, and execution of covert operations. The development of Directive 10-2
20:30 was a highly guarded secret and very few individuals in the government knew of its existence. The architect of 10-2 was the previous mentioned George Kennan. He laid out a top secret paper dated February 24, 1948. The paper was used as the basis for drafting Directive 10-2. The three main areas of contents was overt assistance, clandestine assistance, and counterforce.
21:02 Kennan identified overt assistance as the use of trusted private citizens and public committees to mobilize interest and support for selective immigrant factions in the U.S. and Europe. Now, keep in mind, I'm going to go over this, trusted private citizens. So this is not at all using government employees. This is leveraging their own.
21:32 private, basically like a paramilitary organization or a paragovernmental organization, public committees, which are basically nonprofit and other government committees, to mobilize interest, which is basically created, and support for selected immigrant factions in the United States, in Europe. So this is the CIA.
22:02 doing crap inside the United States. That's what they're authorizing here. Use the immigrant population. And I find it amazing that this is written down and still in effect, by the way, when they tell us that China is using Chinese people in the United States. Well, guess what? So are we. Clandestine assistance was support.
22:32 so the second part of it, clandestine assistance, was support to anti-communist factions in countries outside the Soviet orbit, which, again, anti-communist factions is anybody that's a Gladio operator. So this is actually authorizing Gladio operations outside of the Soviet orbit under the guise that they may gain power or influence.
23:03 And finally, counterforce. It was described as, quote, outright paramilitary actions, unquote, which we now know is terror events, assassinations, whatever. Kennan also articulated in a general implementation of 10-2, the, quote, general direction and financial support would come from the government, unquote. And then, quote,
23:32 Passed to a private American organization or organizations, unquote, meaning business enterprises or CIA front company, bank, NGO, whatever. These would be, quote, composed of private citizens, unquote, with field offices in Europe and Asia.
23:56 The use of private organizations and citizens is a clear reference to the World Commerce Corporation and the SPG already in the field, having earlier been suggested by Donovan to the Defense Secretary Forrestal. I think that was a mosquito. Skorzeny's papers that revealed scores.
24:19 scores any shocking connection to all of the components laid out by George Kennan and approved under NSC Directive 10.2. Going forward, the author will use Directive 10.2 to reveal Skorzeny's participation in all of these covert activities. Each objective, overt assistance, clandestine assistance, and counterforce will be noted as they appear in the timeline.
24:47 Ultimately, the reader will see Skorzeny's post-war covert undertakings match verbatim the wording and instructions issued by 10-2. It's critical to note that Bloodstone Project was the use of a private American organization to dovetail with Bloodstone. It is clear that World Commerce Corporation is that private organization. The collaboration between
25:19 Frank Wisner's OPC and Frank Ryan's WCC also align with 10-2 instructions that the directing and financial support for the civilian group will come from the government, like come from us. These facts also confirm that Skorzeny's
25:40 Future involvement with the CIA as it will pass through the world commerce will be indirect with no formal contact, making his use both plausible and deniable another 10-2 imperative. In July of 48, 10-2 was expanded with a new directive that added assassination and rescue of allied airmen just on the eve of Skorzeny escaping.
26:11 A major part of the Bloodstone operation was the use of the International Relief Organization, or IRO, as a cover for operations. Lieutenant Colonel Kubler, K-U-B-L-E-R, had confirmed that the DDU was using the IRO as a means to secure scientists, engineers, informants, and intelligence operatives from the clutches of the Soviet Union.
26:38 The underground system, later dubbed the Rat Line, was associated with the relief organization. The Catholic side of the relief operation was headed by Croatian priest Father Kronoslav Dragnakovic, whose activities were secretly sanctioned by the Vatican. The American side was ran by Dr. Morton Royce, R-O-Y-S-E.
27:06 an experienced OSS officer who headed the IRO. Royce was often in contact with other former OSS officials serving in the CIA. Father Drogkovic could not work openly with U.S. intelligence officials, so his means of carrying out secret activities was facilitated by CIC and CIA operatives through the IRO.
27:35 Again, plausible deniability, right? One of the intelligence officers working for the priest was Major Robert Bishop, a Chicago lawyer who served in the OSS during the war. A highly significant fact concerning Major Bishop is he served immediately after the war as the legal officer assigned to compile Otto Skorzeny's SS records in preparation for the trial.
28:06 This means Bishop would have worked closely with the previous mentioned Judge Duval, who received a presentation gift from Skorzeny after the trial. In 1947, Bishop accepted an assignment as an independent operator working for the CIA under Wisner, setting up intelligence networks in Romania. Wisner had been Bishop's superior during the war.
28:36 In January 48, Bishop moved again, this time to a position in Italy with the eligibility office of the International Relief Organization. And what do we know about Gladio? That Italy was the single most important initial Operation Gladio event in the overturning of the 1948 election there.
29:05 to thwart communism. What it was is to ensure that they elected the Western friendly guy that the CIA and the West wanted elected. Bishop would have worked very closely with Captain Koning, C-O-N-E-I-N, who was arranging agent movements. Bishop would have also been privy to Skorzeny's secret records and with Skorzeny's purpose.
29:34 and with Skorzeny personally. Bishop later stated he did not believe Skorzeny was guilty of war crimes and let his superiors know it. He wrote in an official report that Skorzeny was the bravest man I ever met. Nothing like prejudicial preparation for a trial, right? Captain Paul E. Lyon, L-Y-O-N, of Army Counterintel, worked closely with the IRO.
30:04 would later recall that Bishop was involved in constructing a highly secret underground escape operation into a large-scale military force. Large numbers of underground troops, military supplies, sea evacuations, air evacuations, and the like for clandestine warfare against the communists. Lyon's statement confirms the ties between Wisner OPC operations and the IRO.
30:31 So basically what they're saying is this Captain Paul Lyons in the Army has validated this mass movement of logistical support to create this entire network of Operation Gladio. The CIA chief in Italy during this critical period was another former member of OSS, James Jesus, or Jesus, however you say it, Angleton.
30:58 who comes up repeatedly in all of our Operation Gladio. Angleton will eventually rise to be the legendary member of the CIA and the foremost counterintelligence officer. Wisner and Angleton will be the continual focus of research in this book and their early positions of authority in the CIA because they became a critical element in the operational use of Otto Skorzeny by Western intelligence.
31:30 So, let's see. Senior Bissell. Oh, that's interesting. So, he was also part of the whole, yeah, the Skull and Bones, the CIA Cultural Engineering MK Ultra. Yeah, he's a bad dude. By the 1st of July, all of the final preparations and authorizations has been completed in Skorzeny.
32:02 was merely waiting for the signal from USS Intelligence to bolt from captivity, his escape. Part of his internment, let's see, he writes in his memoirs that later part of his internment that he received a letter postmarked in Paris from British SOE officer Yeo Thomas, the white rabbit, the guy that helped him get off.
32:32 who had come to his defense during his trial, was the long-awaited signal from Dollivan, the SPG guy. So Commander Yeo Thomas told Skorzeny in the letter, quote, you did a jolly good job during the war. If you are ever looking for a place to stay, I have a home in Paris. Escape, unquote.
32:57 The timing of this letter is imperative and a clear cryptic reference by Skorzeny's revealing the hidden forces behind his escape, which was Donovan's secret group. So he didn't actually escape. The CIA coordinated a safe house for him to stay and sent the flag for him to go ahead and leave custody. With the approval from military intelligence to look the other way, Skorzeny made his escape.
33:28 On the night of July 25th, 1948, Skorzeny himself gives the reason as simply having had enough of captivity, especially given the fact that he was not guilty of any crimes. Three years and two months seemed to me to be enough. I wanted the American colonel, who was commander of the camp, that I decided to get away. He didn't believe me. But two hours later, I installed myself with some difficulty in the trunk of his car.
33:57 The German driver who was going shopping for the camp commander unwittingly drove me through all of the checkpoints. I don't believe that for a minute. It was Arnold Silver in a book called Questions, Questions, Questions, who admits Skorzeny was released on official authority from Frankfurt War Department Detachment, i.e. CIA.
34:27 As for Arnold Silver, at the end of June, he would resign from the Army and return to the U.S. Not surprisingly, by 1948, he was in the CIA and was promptly scheduled for operational assignment, and this is not the last time we hear of Arnold Silver. Skorzeny, meanwhile, went underground to begin the development of his contacts and putting into place a personal undercover apparatus in anticipation of further
34:55 by the SPG, in final analysis, it was the joint clandestine group composed of former American, British, and French Secret Service people or agents at the heart of Skorzeny's release. The actions had the full endorsement of senior military and high government officials and the entire Western intelligence apparatus. Because keep in mind that
35:23 General Galen, his former boss, is the guy that's going to be installed in West Germany, supposedly the new government, as the chief of intel. So he's basically going to be working for his old boss because Galen's a Nazi too. So that's it for that chapter. We are going to do a little bit more since that's a fairly short chapter. Chapter seven begins with alias Rolf Steinerhardt.
35:53 So many guys with these hyphenated names. On the very day of Otto Skorzeny's release escape in July of 1948, friends on the outside had arranged for a suitcase to be secreted to a nearby railway station. Friends were members of his old commando unit working undercover for Western Intel. Part of the overall operation, a rescue of Skorzeny's wife, Anna,
36:21 occurred simultaneously in Austria. This rescue was to safeguard her capture by the Soviets. Skorzeny had been briefed by Arnold Silver on Soviet plans to kidnap him prior to his release. July 31st, a local newspaper of Franklin, Pennsylvania, picked up the story and printed the headline, Wife of Nazi Spy Missing from Home.
36:47 It described the disappearance of Anna Skorzeny from her home in the U.S. zone of Austria three days ago. The date of the event coincides with Skorzeny's escape. The two events are linked. Since the securing of Skorzeny's wife occurred in Austria, it's critical to point out that CIA operations in that country during the period were controlled by Alfred Umer, U-L-M-E-R, chief of station in Vienna.
37:17 Ulmer was a former naval intelligence officer who served General Donovan in the SOS. Ulmer had arrived in Austria in 1946, and by 47, he was in charge of all CIA operations in the country. A Princeton grad, he would eventually rise to the senior level of CIA officers. Ulmer's deputy, John Richardson, was a former Army CIC counterintel officer.
37:46 Both men were dedicated Cold War warriors. It's documented that Ulmer conducted extensive covert operations in Austria. Ulmer also maintained excellent working relationships with the U.S. Army counter intel, as well as French and British. Ulmer, as a senior CIA officer in Austria, would have been aware of the Skorzeny.
38:16 So what's important to point out is all of these organizations that we later found out in our original Operation Gladio all have CIA operatives in them immediately in the aftermath to set up all these stay-behind units. After his release, Skorzeny remained out of sight. He departed the train station and ends up in...
38:51 Bavaria, which is where he was originally from. There's a safe house that's been arranged. This was later confirmed by Skorzeny's third wife, Els, in an interview. Perhaps not by coincidence, the safe house was located in the same mountain region where Skorzeny carried out his final orders for the Third Reich. Interesting document found in the Skorzeny archive was the identity booklet.
39:23 for this period that Skorzeny would have used at the time of his escape. This booklet contained a photograph of Skorzeny in civilian attire and identifies him as a journalist under the alias Rolf Steinerhardt. Important here is the all press in Germany was controlled by U.S. intelligence through the Army Information Control Division, set up by Eisenhower, Chief of
39:50 psychological warfare, Brigadier General Robert McClure. The issuance of this particular identity booklet is a dead giveaway that Skorzeny was assisted by Western intel. And also interesting to note, as we know, the press was their favorite thing to hide behind because it gave them plausible deniability of traveling around to various countries, multiple passport activity.
40:19 under the guise of being a journalist, so that kind of matches up with what we found out in Portugal in the Genter Press, and they had the capability of making any kind of identification for anybody, and it all looked real. The safe house used to shelter Skorzeny was a mountain lodge rented by Countess I.L.S.E. von Fickenstein.
40:48 F-I-N-C-K-E-N-S-T-E-I-N. He ends up marrying this woman. From this point forward in Skorzeny's history, she will be the key conduit through which Skorzeny will communicate with numerous contacts. Skorzeny and Ells became romantically involved during this initial period after his release. In 1993, interview the author Martin Lee.
41:18 As Els admitted that she fell straight away for Skorzeny's stating that Otto is a fabulous looking animal. He had everything you would want in a man, lots of charm, charisma, and a good sense of humor. She also stated that Skorzeny was in contact with a U.S. controlled intelligence entity known as the Galen Organization, which is Gladio.
41:45 Also, I don't know if y'all have looked up a picture of him. He is handsome, but he has like this huge scar on the side of his face. Obviously, hazardous line of work he was in. The Galen organization deserves more than a passing mention. In fact, the organization was the integral part of the backstory to Skorzeny's Cold War saga. The Galen organization was named after General Reinhard Galen, Nazi, former.
42:14 chief of intel for the foreign armies. Galen had been one of Hitler's foremost authorities on the Soviet military and its associated industries. In 1944, Galen had determined that Hitler's policies and failed military strategy would end Germany's defeat. Hitler was unwilling to accept Galen's factual intelligence assessments and fired him. There's a little bit more to that story.
42:45 Galen had a keen understanding of military situations. He predicated a post-war conflict between the West and Soviet Union over spoils of a conquered Germany. So we know that in 1942, Galen had already started setting up Gladio operation, stay behind units. And he was doing it during the war in German occupied...
43:15 that will eventually, after the war, be taken over by the Soviet Union. But what was happening is many of those areas where he was setting these things up, as soon as he would set them up, the Soviet Union had such outstanding intel on what was going on, they were getting all executed as soon as they were set up. So Galen's ability...
43:42 to do what he said he was going to do in the way in which it was supposed to come off was not all that stellar. So that's more the reason why he got fired. But it was right at the very end anyway, and he gets his old job back. So Galen devised a plan to offer his services to the Americans after Germany's capitulation. Working in isolation, the small group began
44:10 filming every document in Galen's intelligence division, and they were put in metal containers and buried. Galen promptly surrendered to the Americans and made contact with the U.S. intelligence officers, and we know that he eventually made the deal with Allen Dulles. Brigadier General Edwin Seibert, S-I-B-E-R-T, a senior intel person, Seibert had an astute
44:40 was an astute officer who also shared Galen's view that the Russians were likely to become a foe, seized upon Galen's idea, and formed a special intelligence operation to handle the matter and secure Galen's buried intelligence treasures. This general did not do that. Galen actually physically met with Alan Dulles, and that information came out of Paul Williams' Operation Gladio book. And it was Alan Dulles through Donovan.
45:11 William Wild Bill Donovan, that in coordination with the people back in DC that agreed, because remember they take Galen and they fly him back to the United States to debrief him. So this was a very high level. It wasn't a one-star general, sorry guy, that did all of this. And so initially called Project X, then Keystone, and finally Rusty.
45:41 The Galen Project was one of the most closely guarded secrets in the post-war period. Galen was clandestinely taken. This is the part where he acknowledges that he went back to the United States. In July of 46, the Galen Group was formally set up at Camp King under the army control to begin assembling an organization of German intelligence experts. And again, Camp King is where...
46:10 Skorzeny was housed. So Skorzeny was one of many people in the establishment or the Americanization, Westernization of the Galen Stay Behind Network as it transitioned. And to me, that's what Camp King was all, the entire purpose of Camp King was to get all of the people that had a role with Galen.
46:37 Skorzeny and all the rest of them in setting up the stay-behind units throughout all of what became Eastern Europe. And eventually Soviet occupied most of it. And identify where that network was and then begin creating them in all of the Western aligned countries like Portugal, Spain, the Netherlands.
47:10 General Galen worked closely with Skorzeny during the latter part of the war. This included a number of secret projects. Two months after Skorzeny's arrival at Camp King, the Galen organization was transferred to Pollack, P-U-L-L-A-C-H, near Munich in Bavaria. And of course, that's where Skorzeny is. In 1949,
47:40 Project Rusty was passed from the control of the Army Intel to the CIA. In 1954, it became an entirely independent German intelligence service called the BND, which is basically Germany's version of the CIA. The Galen organization that supported the secret release of Skorzeny in July of 1948
48:03 This makes perfect sense since Galen's German network could have been protected and facilitated Skorzeny's movements without direct American involvement. At the time of Skorzeny's release, the Galen organization was still under the U.S. Army intel control. A year later, it was formally transferred to the CIA. Instrumental in the transfer was Colonel James Critchfield, who was...
48:34 frequently assigned as chief of CIA in Munich. Colonel Critchfield had worked with Al Ulmer in Austria before being selected as a liaison officer for the Galen organization. So again, all of these people are all in close proximity to each other and all related to Skorzeny. Else,
49:03 I-L-S-E, Skorzeny's girlfriend, had given information to author Lee that the Galen organization has dispatched one of their men to bring weapons to the safe house harboring Skorzeny. That was likely Captain Walter Gerg, G-I-R-G, Skorzeny's former wartime intel officer. Gerg had been one of Skorzeny's most trusted officers.
49:36 It is documented that he worked for both U.S. and French intelligence after the war, including the Galen organization. Otto was told to be on guard, a likely reference to the Soviet kidnapping attempt or rumors. Skorzeny would begin to plot his next move and begin making clandestine contact with his former unit.
50:05 who were scattered all over the war-torn landscape of Germany. Els would be inseparable from Otto for the rest of the time that he's alive. Skorzeny's female companion, later his wife, was born in Germany, said to have been very attractive and highly intelligent.
50:32 She also occupied a very high position in German intelligence. She spent considerable time in England before the outbreak of the war. There seemed to be a lot of cross-feeding between England and Germany in the lead-up to the war, and during the war, as we found out with the Milford girls. Els had married Adolf Fink von Fickenstein. Can't make up these names. It is generally understood
51:03 that he was a wealthy man and had served in the German army. They had no children. He had a four-year-old daughter when they got married, and she was very close to her stepdaughter during the years that they were together, and they remained close for the rest of her life. Els and Adolf had developed marital problems.
51:34 which resulted in a split. And apparently she then moved to Paris and took up with another guy by the name of Robert Leroy. Again, the circumstances behind these developments are almost completely unknown. Leroy sometimes spelt Leroy was a former SS officer who had served in the Belgium volunteer division. And so basically what you get is
52:04 This woman's obviously intel and sleeps around wherever it is that she's going for whatever purpose she's assigned to do it. Could it be more than that? Ilse is the pronunciation of her name. Okay. Ilse. So anyway, now we're going to move on to the French connections because they will move from Bavaria to France. And that's not coincidental because of course.
52:36 I think it's in 19, the end of 48 and into 49, where they're standing up NATO in Paris. So that's where he's going to end up. Certain French intelligence officers played a key role in his escape, one of which included Colonel Mikel Garder, G-A-R-D-E-R. In reality, these officers were actually part of an extra legal and secret organization called...
53:09 The RPF. It was embedded within the French intelligence. The secret entity was reflected in a newspaper article during an interview with Colonel Michael Gardner, who confirmed, of course, quote, of course, the Skorzeny operation was only half covered by headquarters in Paris, unquote. Colonel Gardner,
53:40 Soon, his use of the word operation confirms that the event was an original clandestine event. The highly secretive RPF would continue to have a central role in clandestine intrigue of Otto Skorzeny for nearly half a decade after his release. Overall, Skorzeny's connection to the RPF
54:04 is not unusual since it is documented that the organization actively recruited former SS officers as operatives. So, the strong connection of RPF has implications for LC as well, although they remained murky. Despite this lack of clarity, it would not be unreasonable based on available evidence to conclude that LC
54:44 had been a very important spy during the war. Elsie developed very important French intelligence connections as well, probably while she's sleeping with the French guy. Her contacts included men in the very highest levels of French intelligence, but most specifically those within the RPF. These included the previously mentioned General Binoville, Colonel Gilbert Renault,
55:16 Pierre Bertheau, and Roger Wybott. All were dedicated anti-communist, which means fascist, friends with benefits. Colonel Renault, who used the alias Colonel Remney.
55:39 Remy, R-E-M-Y, during the war. Renault was one of the most famous secret agents in the history of France and an important figure in the resistance during World War II. Although a strong ally of de Gaulle, after the war, Renault supported the rehabilitation of Marshal Pétain. This resulted in his repudiation by de Gaulle. A short time afterwards, he resigned from the RPF.
56:08 and move to Portugal. Hello? Because Portugal is like a huge hub of Operation Gladio with a genter press. They've got people coming in from all over to run Gladio training in the Canary Islands and all kinds of operations out of Portugal. So that makes perfect sense. Pierre Bertot.
56:38 was the director of a national police equivalent of the American FBI. His organization controlled all of the police forces in France. He is a highly experienced secret agent and a veteran leader of the French resistance. He organized the Bertheau Group in southern France to work with the British SOE and American SOS operatives during the war.
57:10 Vertoe was also an authority on German culture and literature. He had high regard for the German people, stemming from his family's academic heritage. Let's see, the last one, Roger Wybot, W-Y-B-O-T, a pivotal character in this book. Wybot was the head of the Directorate of Territorial Surveillance, or DST.
57:36 His organization was responsible for foreign threats against France. Wybit also used the alias Roger Warren, W-A-R-I-N. He is also compared to legendary CIA Alan Dulles and to formidable FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover. During World War II, Wybit was appointed to organize the French intelligence service.
58:04 the BCRA, and subsequently led its counterintel section. His ruthless methods and strict monitoring of free French and resistance led to animosity between him and other members of the intelligence. He was subsequently reassigned to Italy. All of these people, all of the menacing people, all end up in Italy, and now you know why they had such a robust Operation Gladio.
58:33 going on there for so many years. Holy crap. He also was very good friends with James Angleton, who was also in Italy. So there you go. Wybott, who was called upon to help organize the French post-war security organizations, was ultimately selected to lead the DST, since Roger Wybott and Pierre Bertheau were also members of the...
59:04 RPF, they were among the top leadership of the anti-communist networks hidden within French intelligence. Another point to remember was the RPF was also at the forefront of the establishment of the anti-communist stay-behind forces in Europe after the war and worked with American intelligence in developing the clandestine network, Gladio.
59:31 All of these people. And see, this is the frustrating thing for me, is when we read these books, every single one of these people are talking about Gladio. And they never use the word. All right. One month after Skorzeny's so-called escape, his faithful assistant, Rad, R-A-D-L, also escaped. The fact that he escaped followed so closely on the heels of Skorzeny.
1:00:00 received no special attention as if it was like a coincidence, right? They're inseparable. So he obviously is going to be part of the Skorzeny operations. So the fact that where they went in Berchtesgaden is right on the border of Austria and Germany, the zones of who was responsible for what at the time.
1:00:36 was done by two different army intel units. So that also adds to the confusion. Munich police reported to American intelligence that an individual brought in for false documentation had stated under question that he was a member of Skorzeny's hunting society, adding,
1:01:05 That it was an anti-communist organization. Nothing like putting it very bluntly. We're going to be hunting anti. We're going to be hunting communists. And therefore we're an anti-communist organization. Holy crap. Unfortunately they weren't hunting communists. Ever. They were hunting.
1:01:36 domestic people that the CIA and this apparatus at NATO decided they didn't want living any longer. So another report concerned the formation of an organization called the Skorzeny Group. These reports may have revealed Skorzeny's initial efforts to recruit the individuals from his previous paramilitary organization.
1:02:11 Reports alluded to Skorzeny's involvement with mysterious organization known as ODESSA, O-D-E-S-S-A, reputedly an underground network set up to protect former Nazis. While not totally inaccurate, the reality is these were numerous underground networks. Some of these had sinister criminal intent, but others were networks set up by Western intelligence, like the rat lines that they were using to...
1:02:45 ferret out all of the people that they wanted. Let's see. What'd you say, Liza? Which secret society in the green robes called themselves a hunting group? I don't remember that one. That's very interesting. That's very interesting, actually. So Major Gannis, the guy that wrote this book, interviewed CIA officer Tom Polgar.
1:03:12 P-O-L-G-A-R, who was in Germany at the time. Polgar stated that Odessa Network, as it related to Skorzeny, was a total exaggeration. Polgar did not, however, volunteer any details about how he knew that.
1:03:34 These reports did serve as an important intelligence purpose. They serve to monitor the situation and keep those in the know about Skorzeny apprised of critical information and potential compromise to the operation. So basically what they're saying is they put these reports out occasionally as almost a way to...
1:04:03 Keep tabs on him and do it through official communications, maybe in a kind of code worded format. Digging it out. Okay, so we're going to look for the green robe one. Liza, you think it's P2, like as in the Masonic Lodge in Italy? That would be, holy crap, mind blowing if that's true. So anyway, that brings us.
1:04:35 to the end of another chapter we've been at it for an hour so i'm gonna hang out while y'all look that up real quick and see if that's um in fact true have we verified it is definitely p2 i'm my head's gonna blow up if that's true um live on television for sure can't remember the name all right wait a minute those are two different things your first
1:05:05 For sure, but you can't remember the name. P2 is propaganda do. That's the Masonic Lodge in Italy. And it wasn't just in Italy, but primarily in Italy that had infiltrated the Vatican and all of the banks and everything else. And I do seem to remember that we did talk about something like that early on in our whole Gladio.
1:05:36 But if Bridget's looking, um, we're going to wait for just a second. So anyway, we will start the next, um, uh, session podcast with, um, chapter eight, um, moving right along. Also, let me tell you, um, so yesterday I posted these. I don't know if anybody, um, uh, had a chance to look, um,
1:06:11 Uh, I did a radio interview, um, in the morning that got posted today at noon. Um, the guy has an actual radio program in North Carolina. He lives on an Indian reservation and, um, he, it aired at noon. So I put the link out there, um, for anybody that wants to go back and listen to it. Very interesting. The guy's very, very knowledgeable and really complimented everything that we've been digging into.
1:06:41 um he'd never heard of operation gladio so it was kind of mind-blowing uh for him and um he had a lot of the pieces but again didn't know the name so that i found that very fascinating he did agree um we only got up to world war ii um because i went back as i do in most new um
1:07:04 audiences to the formation of the round table and the Boer Wars and how the whole concept got developed and how it evolved. But we ended right at the creation of them in the 1940s. So that was very interesting. And so anyway, that was all.
1:07:31 And we are going to do probably two or three more so we can walk through the entire timeline and go through a couple of examples like the Greek one where they had the coup done by the CIA and maybe Portugal because it's just very interesting as well. But also I did my friend War Hamster is.
1:07:56 doing a series on a bunch of different topics. And he got to the Robert Maxwell and understood that we had already went through the, he comes on here several times with us. He understood that we had already went through Whitney Webb's book and went all over Robert Maxwell. So because he was doing Robert Maxwell, he had me on to kind of fill in some of the background that
1:08:22 Hold on a second. That he didn't have that we have and how he ties in to the whole operation Gladio, the promise software scandal and all that other stuff. So that was very interesting too. And he did tell me today that it is his highest watched video that he's ever done. So that was wonderful.
1:08:46 I'm glad that the word is getting out and people are very interested in it, but I need all of y'all to tune in tomorrow. I know Liza's been kicked off. She won't be able to do it. Twitter X, because we are going to do a live spaces and I'd love to have y'all there for moral support.
1:09:13 Um, and audience participation. Um, so that, um, yeah, anyway, I'm so excited about that. All right. So what, um, Bridget look up. So we have, I'm not making the connection. We've got order of St. Hubris and we've got Antony Scalia link. Um, and then, uh, let's see what the order of St. Hubris, um,
1:09:46 Let's see. Oh, so this is the hunting one. Part of the Habsburg. Oh, and Austria. Well, that's interesting because Austria and Bohemia is exactly where they're hanging out. The order was banned by Adolf Hitler for refusing to accept Nazis. Darn. Let's see.
1:10:20 The order gained media attention when Anthony Scalia died while staying at the ranch. The ranch owner, John Poindexter, as well as Alan Dulles, who traveled with Scalia to the ranch by private plane, hold leadership positions in the order. Are you kidding me? Now, I know that I've read about Anthony Scalia, but...
1:10:51 Did I just miss that he, that John Poindexter owned that ranch and that they traveled with Scalia to the ranch? How did I miss that? Are you shitting me? What? What? Lee, crap. All right. All right. All right. Now my head has exploded.
1:11:37 Wow. So John Poindexter, um, and let's look this up real quick because Poindexter was all in One Nation under blackmail. So hold on just a second. We're going to do some live research here. Um, Poindexter, Poindexter right there, 364.
1:12:18 Three 64. So, Oh shoot. She even has his, she's got his face in there. Coin Dexter. So that was the last chapter where they're talking about the creation of all of that software to spy on everybody.
1:12:52 Let's see. Where is Poindexter? One of Poindexter's key allies. Okay, so the architect of TIA, which is Total Information Awareness, and the man who led it during its relatively brief existence was John Poindexter. So that's part of the DARPA program, best known for being Reagan's NSA.
1:13:25 during Iran-Contra and being convicted of five felonies in relation to that scandal, Poindexter, during the Iran-Contra hearings, had famously claimed that it was his duty to withhold information from Congress. One of his key allies was the Chief of Information Officer, Alan Wade. Wade met with Poindexter in relations to TIA numerous times.
1:13:53 That's that software that basically everybody had a fit about because of civil liberties. And it then, remember Alan Wade, the whole thing transitions into Palantir, Palantir, P-A-L-A-N-T-I-R. They went from that total information thing to Palantir, basically all controlled by the CIA.
1:14:20 And then it got found out and they changed the name to terrorism information awareness as if, you know, hey, we can spy on you as long as we call it terrorism. Holy crap. So now we need to go back and look at the timing. Can somebody look up when Scalia died real quick and post that on there? Because this obviously is happening.
1:14:49 In the immediate aftermath of 9-11. Let's check and see when Scalia died. And I'm wondering. What court cases. Were pending. Because this is all part of main core. Promise. Robert Maxwell. All of that stuff. So. Is somebody looking up when.
1:15:27 Scalia died. That's freaking crazy. Alan Dulles and Poindexter. Holy moly. All right. So let's look up real quick. February 2016, Scalia died. Did he just die in 2016? Was he, was his the seat that, yeah, 2016. Okay. Yeah.
1:16:09 So his was the seat that goofball at DOJ was going, was nominated by Obama that the Senate refused to fill. Okay. That makes sense. So 2016, holy moly. All right. I'm going to have to go do some more research on that. Y'all are so smart. That's why I need y'all there tomorrow night. Yeah, that's crazy. We're going to have to dig into this.
1:16:41 Let's see. Archive Washington Post National Security. Scalia spent his last hours with members of the Secret Society on an elite hunting expedition. Son of a gun. Y'all are so smart. I learn something every time. I'm telling you. Y'all just, I love you to death. All right. So Sunday, our next meeting is Tuesday at 7 p.m. Be here or be squared.
1:17:10 Let's see. Thank you, Bridget, for sending me that. I'm definitely going to read that Washington Post article as well, even if it gags me. Appreciate y'all. I will be back Tuesday at seven and I hope to see y'all all on X tomorrow night at six o'clock. We're going to get.
1:17:35 I don't know. I just hope a lot of people are on there because I want everybody to know what we know because this is just crazy stuff. Okay. So anyway, I will hopefully talk to you tomorrow. If not, we'll talk again on Tuesday. Thanks for being here, everybody. Give us a thumbs up. Also follow if you're new and you haven't followed us yet. It helps us move up when people are searching for interesting things to see. I really appreciate you being here.

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Lucius Clay headed Germany documented ▶ 3:36
“So while Skorzeny and Rad, his partner, ventured out of the camp on work release, other big developments were transpiring at the higher level. The time frame that we're talking about is 1948. General …”
Douglas MacArthur headed Japan documented ▶ 3:36
“So while Skorzeny and Rad, his partner, ventured out of the camp on work release, other big developments were transpiring at the higher level. The time frame that we're talking about is 1948. General …”
Western Union Clandestine Committee linked_to Compass Rose book_quoted ▶ 8:21
“As it was referred to Operation Gladio throughout all of South America, they actually named something else in Vietnam Operation Condor. So when you try to research it, you're going to come up with som…”
Western Union Clandestine Committee carried_out_attack Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 8:52
“was the designated controlling body for the formation of Western stay-behind units. In Daniel Ganser's book, which we've talked about, Operation Gladio, NATO Secret Army, the mission of the WUCC was t…”
Harry S. Truman funded Marshall Plan documented ▶ 9:22
“In April of 1948, President Truman signed the Marshall Plan, granting $5 billion in aid in $48. $5 billion to 16 European countries. Directing the Marshall Plan was Richard Bissell, a Yale graduate lo…”
Richard M. Bissell Jr. headed Marshall Plan documented ▶ 9:22
“In April of 1948, President Truman signed the Marshall Plan, granting $5 billion in aid in $48. $5 billion to 16 European countries. Directing the Marshall Plan was Richard Bissell, a Yale graduate lo…”
Marshall Plan financed_via Economic Cooperation Administration book_quoted ▶ 11:20
“paramilitary organization with hidden contacts in the World Commerce Corporation. Hidden within the Marshall Plan was secret funding for covert operations which were transmitted through the Economic C…”
Military Assistant Group secretly_owned Western Union Clandestine Committee book_quoted ▶ 13:42
“Paul Williams' book was embedded in NATO, the CPC. In October of that year, MAG became the secret cover for its operations. It's a vital point to remember when analyzing Otto Skorzeny's heavy involvem…”
Western Union Clandestine Committee member_of NATO book_quoted ▶ 13:42
“Paul Williams' book was embedded in NATO, the CPC. In October of that year, MAG became the secret cover for its operations. It's a vital point to remember when analyzing Otto Skorzeny's heavy involvem…”
Otto Skorzeny member_of Military Assistant Group book_quoted ▶ 13:42
“Paul Williams' book was embedded in NATO, the CPC. In October of that year, MAG became the secret cover for its operations. It's a vital point to remember when analyzing Otto Skorzeny's heavy involvem…”
Richard M. Bissell Jr. member_of Skull and Bones host_asserted ▶ 14:14
“Liza's saying he studied at Yale University, turning down a membership in Skull and Bones and graduating in 32. Oh my gosh, not another London School of Economics guy. Thank you, Liza, for pointing th…”
William J. Donovan moved_to Paris documented ▶ 15:12
“and that Donovan had made a trip to Paris for the purpose of surveying and inspecting the activities of this group. Now, again, this is why it's so important because we're on like our, you know, multi…”
Milton Katz member_of Marshall Plan documented ▶ 15:42
“correlating the stay-behind units under the management of NATO. Donovan is also confirmed to have been in Paris in that summer, along with several other former OSS officers, most of whom later joined …”
Franklin A. Lindsay member_of Marshall Plan documented ▶ 15:42
“correlating the stay-behind units under the management of NATO. Donovan is also confirmed to have been in Paris in that summer, along with several other former OSS officers, most of whom later joined …”
E. Howard Hunt member_of Marshall Plan documented ▶ 16:09
“Also attached to the Marshall Plan was Donovan's former OSS Far East operative E. Howard Hunt, later of Watergate fame and key member of the Skorzeny story, because we're going to hear a lot more abou…”
William Casey member_of Marshall Plan documented ▶ 16:09
“Also attached to the Marshall Plan was Donovan's former OSS Far East operative E. Howard Hunt, later of Watergate fame and key member of the Skorzeny story, because we're going to hear a lot more abou…”
State-War-Navy-Air Force Coordination Committee funded Operation Bloodstone documented ▶ 17:12
“He didn't actually escape. Operation Bloodstone, a major clandestine program involving anti-communists, which we translate as Operation Gladio, using East European immigrants, essentially former Nazi …”
Frank Wisner headed Operation Bloodstone documented ▶ 17:40
“or the SAN-ACC, which also becomes a part of NATO, this official body directed all U.S. covert activity. Selected to lead the Bloodstone Project was veteran OSS officer Frank Wisner, who had been very…”
George F. Kennan headed Office of Special Projects documented ▶ 18:09
“Wisner fell under the State Department policy staff headed by Foreign Service Officer George Kennan. But remember, Wisner then gets moved over to the policy section of the CIA once it's up and running…”
Frank Wisner member_of Office of Special Projects documented ▶ 18:09
“Wisner fell under the State Department policy staff headed by Foreign Service Officer George Kennan. But remember, Wisner then gets moved over to the policy section of the CIA once it's up and running…”
George F. Kennan funded NSC Directive 5412 documented ▶ 20:30
“was a highly guarded secret and very few individuals in the government knew of its existence. The architect of 10-2 was the previous mentioned George Kennan. He laid out a top secret paper dated Febru…”
NSC Directive 5412 funded Operation Bloodstone book_quoted ▶ 24:47
“Ultimately, the reader will see Skorzeny's post-war covert undertakings match verbatim the wording and instructions issued by 10-2. It's critical to note that Bloodstone Project was the use of a priva…”
World Commerce Corporation front_for Operation Bloodstone book_quoted ▶ 24:47
“Ultimately, the reader will see Skorzeny's post-war covert undertakings match verbatim the wording and instructions issued by 10-2. It's critical to note that Bloodstone Project was the use of a priva…”
Frank Wisner did_business_with Frank Ryan book_quoted ▶ 25:19
“Frank Wisner's OPC and Frank Ryan's WCC also align with 10-2 instructions that the directing and financial support for the civilian group will come from the government, like come from us. These facts …”
Otto Skorzeny member_of World Commerce Corporation book_quoted ▶ 25:40
“Future involvement with the CIA as it will pass through the world commerce will be indirect with no formal contact, making his use both plausible and deniable another 10-2 imperative. In July of 48, 1…”
International Regional Labor Organization front_for Operation Bloodstone documented ▶ 26:11
“A major part of the Bloodstone operation was the use of the International Relief Organization, or IRO, as a cover for operations. Lieutenant Colonel Kubler, K-U-B-L-E-R, had confirmed that the DDU was…”
Kronoslav Dragnakovic headed International Regional Labor Organization documented ▶ 26:38
“The underground system, later dubbed the Rat Line, was associated with the relief organization. The Catholic side of the relief operation was headed by Croatian priest Father Kronoslav Dragnakovic, wh…”
Morton Royce headed International Regional Labor Organization documented ▶ 26:38
“The underground system, later dubbed the Rat Line, was associated with the relief organization. The Catholic side of the relief operation was headed by Croatian priest Father Kronoslav Dragnakovic, wh…”
Rupert Bishop moved_to Italy documented ▶ 28:36
“In January 48, Bishop moved again, this time to a position in Italy with the eligibility office of the International Relief Organization. And what do we know about Gladio? That Italy was the single mo…”
Rupert Bishop did_business_with Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 29:05
“to thwart communism. What it was is to ensure that they elected the Western friendly guy that the CIA and the West wanted elected. Bishop would have worked very closely with Captain Koning, C-O-N-E-I-…”
Paul E. Lyon did_business_with International Regional Labor Organization documented ▶ 29:34
“and with Skorzeny personally. Bishop later stated he did not believe Skorzeny was guilty of war crimes and let his superiors know it. He wrote in an official report that Skorzeny was the bravest man I…”
F.F. Edward Yeo-Thomas member_of Special Operations Executive documented ▶ 32:02
“was merely waiting for the signal from USS Intelligence to bolt from captivity, his escape. Part of his internment, let's see, he writes in his memoirs that later part of his internment that he receiv…”
F.F. Edward Yeo-Thomas did_business_with Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 32:02
“was merely waiting for the signal from USS Intelligence to bolt from captivity, his escape. Part of his internment, let's see, he writes in his memoirs that later part of his internment that he receiv…”
Arnold Silver exposed Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 33:57
“The German driver who was going shopping for the camp commander unwittingly drove me through all of the checkpoints. I don't believe that for a minute. It was Arnold Silver in a book called Questions,…”
Reinhard Gehlen headed Germany host_asserted ▶ 35:23
“General Galen, his former boss, is the guy that's going to be installed in West Germany, supposedly the new government, as the chief of intel. So he's basically going to be working for his old boss be…”
Otto Skorzeny did_business_with Reinhard Gehlen host_asserted ▶ 35:23
“General Galen, his former boss, is the guy that's going to be installed in West Germany, supposedly the new government, as the chief of intel. So he's basically going to be working for his old boss be…”
Otto Skorzeny married Anna Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 36:47
“It described the disappearance of Anna Skorzeny from her home in the U.S. zone of Austria three days ago. The date of the event coincides with Skorzeny's escape. The two events are linked. Since the s…”
Alfred Ulmer member_of SOS book_quoted ▶ 37:17
“Ulmer was a former naval intelligence officer who served General Donovan in the SOS. Ulmer had arrived in Austria in 1946, and by 47, he was in charge of all CIA operations in the country. A Princeton…”
Alfred Ulmer headed CIA book_quoted ▶ 37:17
“Ulmer was a former naval intelligence officer who served General Donovan in the SOS. Ulmer had arrived in Austria in 1946, and by 47, he was in charge of all CIA operations in the country. A Princeton…”
John Richardson member_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 37:17
“Ulmer was a former naval intelligence officer who served General Donovan in the SOS. Ulmer had arrived in Austria in 1946, and by 47, he was in charge of all CIA operations in the country. A Princeton…”
Otto Skorzeny operated_in Bavaria book_quoted ▶ 38:51
“Bavaria, which is where he was originally from. There's a safe house that's been arranged. This was later confirmed by Skorzeny's third wife, Els, in an interview. Perhaps not by coincidence, the safe…”
Otto Skorzeny married Els von Fickenstein book_quoted ▶ 40:48
“F-I-N-C-K-E-N-S-T-E-I-N. He ends up marrying this woman. From this point forward in Skorzeny's history, she will be the key conduit through which Skorzeny will communicate with numerous contacts. Skor…”
Otto Skorzeny member_of Gehlen Organization book_quoted ▶ 41:18
“As Els admitted that she fell straight away for Skorzeny's stating that Otto is a fabulous looking animal. He had everything you would want in a man, lots of charm, charisma, and a good sense of humor…”
Reinhard Gehlen member_of Nazi Party book_quoted ▶ 41:45
“Also, I don't know if y'all have looked up a picture of him. He is handsome, but he has like this huge scar on the side of his face. Obviously, hazardous line of work he was in. The Galen organization…”
Reinhard Gehlen founded Gehlen Organization book_quoted ▶ 41:45
“Also, I don't know if y'all have looked up a picture of him. He is handsome, but he has like this huge scar on the side of his face. Obviously, hazardous line of work he was in. The Galen organization…”
Adolf Hitler removed_from_power Reinhard Gehlen book_quoted ▶ 42:14
“chief of intel for the foreign armies. Galen had been one of Hitler's foremost authorities on the Soviet military and its associated industries. In 1944, Galen had determined that Hitler's policies an…”
Reinhard Gehlen founded Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 42:45
“Galen had a keen understanding of military situations. He predicated a post-war conflict between the West and Soviet Union over spoils of a conquered Germany. So we know that in 1942, Galen had alread…”
Reinhard Gehlen did_business_with Allen Dulles book_quoted ▶ 44:10
“filming every document in Galen's intelligence division, and they were put in metal containers and buried. Galen promptly surrendered to the Americans and made contact with the U.S. intelligence offic…”
Edwin Seibert founded Gehlen Organization book_quoted ▶ 44:40
“was an astute officer who also shared Galen's view that the Russians were likely to become a foe, seized upon Galen's idea, and formed a special intelligence operation to handle the matter and secure …”
Gehlen Organization renamed_to Project Rusty book_quoted ▶ 45:11
“William Wild Bill Donovan, that in coordination with the people back in DC that agreed, because remember they take Galen and they fly him back to the United States to debrief him. So this was a very h…”
Gehlen Organization renamed_to Project Keystone book_quoted ▶ 45:11
“William Wild Bill Donovan, that in coordination with the people back in DC that agreed, because remember they take Galen and they fly him back to the United States to debrief him. So this was a very h…”
Gehlen Organization renamed_to Project X book_quoted ▶ 45:11
“William Wild Bill Donovan, that in coordination with the people back in DC that agreed, because remember they take Galen and they fly him back to the United States to debrief him. So this was a very h…”
Gehlen Organization located_in Camp King book_quoted ▶ 45:41
“The Galen Project was one of the most closely guarded secrets in the post-war period. Galen was clandestinely taken. This is the part where he acknowledges that he went back to the United States. In J…”
Otto Skorzeny member_of Camp King book_quoted ▶ 46:10
“Skorzeny was housed. So Skorzeny was one of many people in the establishment or the Americanization, Westernization of the Galen Stay Behind Network as it transitioned. And to me, that's what Camp Kin…”
Gehlen Organization moved_to Pulach book_quoted ▶ 47:10
“General Galen worked closely with Skorzeny during the latter part of the war. This included a number of secret projects. Two months after Skorzeny's arrival at Camp King, the Galen organization was tr…”
Gehlen Organization renamed_to BND book_quoted ▶ 47:40
“Project Rusty was passed from the control of the Army Intel to the CIA. In 1954, it became an entirely independent German intelligence service called the BND, which is basically Germany's version of t…”
Project Rusty transferred_to CIA book_quoted ▶ 47:40
“Project Rusty was passed from the control of the Army Intel to the CIA. In 1954, it became an entirely independent German intelligence service called the BND, which is basically Germany's version of t…”
James Critchfield member_of Gehlen Organization book_quoted ▶ 48:34
“frequently assigned as chief of CIA in Munich. Colonel Critchfield had worked with Al Ulmer in Austria before being selected as a liaison officer for the Galen organization. So again, all of these peo…”
James Critchfield headed CIA book_quoted ▶ 48:34
“frequently assigned as chief of CIA in Munich. Colonel Critchfield had worked with Al Ulmer in Austria before being selected as a liaison officer for the Galen organization. So again, all of these peo…”
Walter Gerg member_of Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 49:03
“I-L-S-E, Skorzeny's girlfriend, had given information to author Lee that the Galen organization has dispatched one of their men to bring weapons to the safe house harboring Skorzeny. That was likely C…”
Walter Gerg member_of Gehlen Organization book_quoted ▶ 49:36
“It is documented that he worked for both U.S. and French intelligence after the war, including the Galen organization. Otto was told to be on guard, a likely reference to the Soviet kidnapping attempt…”
Els von Fickenstein had_affair_with Robert Leroy book_quoted ▶ 51:34
“which resulted in a split. And apparently she then moved to Paris and took up with another guy by the name of Robert Leroy. Again, the circumstances behind these developments are almost completely unk…”
Robert Leroy member_of U.S. Secret Service book_quoted ▶ 51:34
“which resulted in a split. And apparently she then moved to Paris and took up with another guy by the name of Robert Leroy. Again, the circumstances behind these developments are almost completely unk…”
Michael Gardner member_of Rwandan Patriotic Front book_quoted ▶ 52:36
“I think it's in 19, the end of 48 and into 49, where they're standing up NATO in Paris. So that's where he's going to end up. Certain French intelligence officers played a key role in his escape, one …”
Rwandan Patriotic Front recruited U.S. Secret Service book_quoted ▶ 54:04
“is not unusual since it is documented that the organization actively recruited former SS officers as operatives. So, the strong connection of RPF has implications for LC as well, although they remaine…”
Robert Renault member_of Rwandan Patriotic Front book_quoted ▶ 54:44
“had been a very important spy during the war. Elsie developed very important French intelligence connections as well, probably while she's sleeping with the French guy. Her contacts included men in th…”
Robert Renault member_of Nepal Volunteer Defense Army book_quoted ▶ 55:39
“Remy, R-E-M-Y, during the war. Renault was one of the most famous secret agents in the history of France and an important figure in the resistance during World War II. Although a strong ally of de Gau…”
Robert Renault moved_to Portugal book_quoted ▶ 55:39
“Remy, R-E-M-Y, during the war. Renault was one of the most famous secret agents in the history of France and an important figure in the resistance during World War II. Although a strong ally of de Gau…”
Robert Renault did_business_with Charles de Gaulle book_quoted ▶ 55:39
“Remy, R-E-M-Y, during the war. Renault was one of the most famous secret agents in the history of France and an important figure in the resistance during World War II. Although a strong ally of de Gau…”
Pierre Bertheau headed Bertheau Group book_quoted ▶ 56:38
“was the director of a national police equivalent of the American FBI. His organization controlled all of the police forces in France. He is a highly experienced secret agent and a veteran leader of th…”
Roger Wybot headed DST book_quoted ▶ 57:10
“Vertoe was also an authority on German culture and literature. He had high regard for the German people, stemming from his family's academic heritage. Let's see, the last one, Roger Wybot, W-Y-B-O-T, …”
Roger Wybot member_of Bureau Central de Renseignements et d'Action book_quoted ▶ 57:36
“His organization was responsible for foreign threats against France. Wybit also used the alias Roger Warren, W-A-R-I-N. He is also compared to legendary CIA Alan Dulles and to formidable FBI Director …”
Roger Wybot moved_to Italy book_quoted ▶ 58:04
“the BCRA, and subsequently led its counterintel section. His ruthless methods and strict monitoring of free French and resistance led to animosity between him and other members of the intelligence. He…”
Roger Wybot did_business_with James Jesus Angleton book_quoted ▶ 58:33
“going on there for so many years. Holy crap. He also was very good friends with James Angleton, who was also in Italy. So there you go. Wybott, who was called upon to help organize the French post-war…”
Roger Wybot member_of Rwandan Patriotic Front book_quoted ▶ 58:33
“going on there for so many years. Holy crap. He also was very good friends with James Angleton, who was also in Italy. So there you go. Wybott, who was called upon to help organize the French post-war…”
Pierre Bertheau member_of Rwandan Patriotic Front book_quoted ▶ 58:33
“going on there for so many years. Holy crap. He also was very good friends with James Angleton, who was also in Italy. So there you go. Wybott, who was called upon to help organize the French post-war…”
Rwandan Patriotic Front founded Operation Gladio book_quoted ▶ 59:04
“RPF, they were among the top leadership of the anti-communist networks hidden within French intelligence. Another point to remember was the RPF was also at the forefront of the establishment of the an…”
Radl member_of Otto Skorzeny book_quoted ▶ 59:31
“All of these people. And see, this is the frustrating thing for me, is when we read these books, every single one of these people are talking about Gladio. And they never use the word. All right. One …”
Otto Skorzeny founded Skorzeny Group book_quoted ▶ 1:01:36
“domestic people that the CIA and this apparatus at NATO decided they didn't want living any longer. So another report concerned the formation of an organization called the Skorzeny Group. These report…”
Tom Polger member_of CIA book_quoted ▶ 1:02:45
“ferret out all of the people that they wanted. Let's see. What'd you say, Liza? Which secret society in the green robes called themselves a hunting group? I don't remember that one. That's very intere…”
John Poindexter relationship_with Ronald Reagan host_asserted ▶ 1:12:52
“Let's see. Where is Poindexter? One of Poindexter's key allies. Okay, so the architect of TIA, which is Total Information Awareness, and the man who led it during its relatively brief existence was Jo…”
John Poindexter headed Total Information Awareness host_asserted ▶ 1:12:52
“Let's see. Where is Poindexter? One of Poindexter's key allies. Okay, so the architect of TIA, which is Total Information Awareness, and the man who led it during its relatively brief existence was Jo…”
Total Information Awareness subsidiary_of DARPA host_asserted ▶ 1:12:52
“Let's see. Where is Poindexter? One of Poindexter's key allies. Okay, so the architect of TIA, which is Total Information Awareness, and the man who led it during its relatively brief existence was Jo…”
John Poindexter relationship_with Iran-Contra affair documented ▶ 1:13:25
“during Iran-Contra and being convicted of five felonies in relation to that scandal, Poindexter, during the Iran-Contra hearings, had famously claimed that it was his duty to withhold information from…”
Alan Wade relationship_with John Poindexter host_asserted ▶ 1:13:25
“during Iran-Contra and being convicted of five felonies in relation to that scandal, Poindexter, during the Iran-Contra hearings, had famously claimed that it was his duty to withhold information from…”
Total Information Awareness renamed_to Palantir Technologies host_asserted ▶ 1:13:53
“That's that software that basically everybody had a fit about because of civil liberties. And it then, remember Alan Wade, the whole thing transitions into Palantir, Palantir, P-A-L-A-N-T-I-R. They we…”
Antonin Scalia relationship_with United States Navy documented ▶ 1:16:09
“So his was the seat that goofball at DOJ was going, was nominated by Obama that the Senate refused to fill. Okay. That makes sense. So 2016, holy moly. All right. I'm going to have to go do some more …”
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