OPERATION GLADIO Exposed with COLONEL TOWNER in Gold Warriors Chapter 14

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0:00 Okay, we're going to start here. I just wanted to get notices out on X and True Social that were here. Alright, here's all the notices. So, I'm going to change up the scenery today. We are outside on my back deck with the sprinklers going. So, I'm going to wait just a second.

2:12 for the stream to get over here. Please let me know. There we go. All right. I can see everybody. All right. This is a crazy chapter. This is kind of where Operation Golden Lily meets Operation Gladio. So took a long time to get here, but we're here. Chapter 14 is called Loose Cannons.

2:49 So we're back to Robert Curtis. Everybody remembers who Robert Curtis is. He's the guy that had the mining company in Nevada and almost got killed by Marcos, went over, showed him, took all of his equipment over there. They stole all of his equipment, showed him basically how to.

3:18 fingerprint the gold so that it looks like it came from the Philippines, showed them where a couple of sites were, and then they tried to kill him. So Robert Curtis, and then of course he went through all the legal troubles where the John Birch Society tried to screw him, blah, blah, blah. So he basically loses most everything and he moves from Sparks, Nevada.

3:47 to Las Vegas, where he becomes the sales manager of a big Chevrolet dealership down there. And he continues to study the maps and begins to be able to interpret based on the legends that were used on the different maps, be able to understand the symbology of them. So he decides.

4:19 let's see, a man that he knew and trusted had met a foreign diplomat whose government wanted to do a gold recovery. And there was going to be a meeting in Las Vegas where Curtis met the prime minister of what is described a Western nation. They do not reveal who, which nation.

4:52 that they had a submarine that they were going to make available to him. And they would be able to split the gold recovery 50-50. He could select whichever site he wanted to. And the prime minister was well aware of Marcos' recovery and the U.S. government's role in it.

5:20 So you can imagine they were intel sharers at the very least. And so Marcos decides that he's going to do the recovery in a smaller island that's just off the outside bay of Manila Bay. And it's a crazy scenario.

5:52 Curtis couldn't actually go because he was still in fear of being arrested on the Philippine Island. So he needs to find two men that basically have some special operations background and can do the job for him. So he finds these two guys and he does all of the meteorology looking to determine what's the best time.

6:21 Because where they're going to bring the gold down to during high tide, it's underwater. And so timing was perfect. It had to be a moonless night, blah, blah, blah. So they're doing all of this planning to go back there for this gold recovery. And remember, we've talked about the concrete barriers that they build.

6:50 fine porcelain that was specially colored that closes them all off. So those bunkers are multiple feet deep. So he's going to need some blasting material or burning material that, like thermite, that can get through the concrete and then not be discovered doing it. It doesn't say where they met in Vegas.

7:21 It just says a Vegas hotel. So he experiments because he's a chemist as well. I mean, that's what his schooling was. And he has to design a special like rut sack to be able to carry the 65 pound gold bars back and forth from the recovery site to the shoreline. And they go through this rigorous training to figure out.

7:53 How many trips they can make during daylight hours. They have to go up and down a ravine. So it takes a lot of training, even for these soft guys, to be able to feel confident they're going to be able to do this mission. And it's going to take them about two weeks, back and forth, every day, all day long. So then they have to bring in the supplies to keep them nourished, blah, blah, blah. So it wasn't a small feat to go through all of this.

8:22 curtis remember has was basically broke i mean they screwed him the government came after him with both barrels so he's kind of wanting to snub his nose at the government and be able to get this done so there's no way he's going to say no so he experiments with different blends of thermite in order to figure out how hot it has to be to get through the amount of

8:51 stone or concrete that is sealing this tunnel front so he gets all of that figured out and he finds these two guys of course we're not told what their names are so they go through their training leading up to the quote-unquote deployment and they pack food water sleeping bags mosquito nets

9:22 Everything that you can think of. And they decide, interestingly enough, because this is going to tie into some other research we're doing right now, that they're going to go into the country as Mormon missionaries. Mormon missionaries. So keep this in mind. This is done all the time. This is a well-known CIA ploy where they...

9:56 use religious entities. And this is all coordinated. The state department eventually figures this out, but this is a well-known ploy that they use. And they are using, they are going through the state department to register these people as missionaries in the Philippines. So they get a boat that, because these guys are soldiers, they're not sailors.

10:28 They get a boat, they load all their gear in, and it looks kind of wonky. But the guy that rented them the boat, of course, tells them, no, it's perfectly fine. So not knowing, because of the tide, not knowing where they needed to project themselves in order to end up with the tide, where they want to be in an underpowered boat, the whole thing gets screwed up. And in the middle, their engine dies.

10:57 So you've got swells coming over the boat. They're having to throw their crap out. They end up throwing the thermite out, most of their supplies. They do end up making it, well, no, this first time they don't make it over there. So they turn around. The engine does come back on after they get all the crap out of their boat. And they're destroyed.

11:24 depressed. They call Curtis in Nevada and they say, Hey, we screwed up. What should we do? So their bright idea is to get some tools and try drilling through this like six foot slab. Curtis like, no, come home. That's not going to work. We need another, another plan. They don't want to. Big macho guys have been training for this. They ain't going home. So they get a whole lot less supplies and they go back over with

11:58 You know, I don't know, a paddle bill drill bit. And they try again. However, they realize within a few hours that there's no chance in hell that's going to work. So they end up calling the whole thing off. And Curtis has to call the prime minister and tell him to take his sub home because they had arranged for a sub to be sitting off the coast.

12:32 And weirdly enough, they never considered the sub delivering the guys to the shoreline. I don't know why. So there had been, during this time, in the 70s and 80s, successful recoveries, which we've talked about some of them. Primarily, Japanese groups that were very well organized had security. And remember, they were using the excuse of...

13:04 investing in apartment buildings and stuff like that, when in fact they were just digging out below it and taking all the crap out. They were also very quiet about it. They didn't give up their mission. So there is, most of this was headed by a resident, the Japanese recoveries, by a resident named Toshi, T-O-S-H-I.

13:35 who lived in Tokyo, but he had been an intel officer during the Operation Golden Lily on the Philippines, as far as burying all of that treasure. So he worked around, not necessarily in the direct presence of Prince Chichibu, Prince Mikasa, Prince Takeda.

14:07 Toshi had observed Ben around the princess as well. So after the war, he went back to Japan, learned how to speak fluent English and French, and then he decided he's going to be a full-time gold recovery person. So he buys a small house on the outskirts of Manila, and he starts...

14:37 working to do recoveries. And in 1981, Toshi was one of the group of Japanese involved with President Marco and his big recovery in the Santa Maria Mountains. The gold was processed through that company we mentioned last time, Johnson Matthey Chemicals, for the re-fingerprinting of the

15:07 Gold to make it look like it was from the Philippines. Using Curtis's stolen equipment. So Marcos in 1983 sells a huge load of gold on the international market. Toshi said some of that gold was from his recovery. There was 716,000 bars that brought in at today's...

15:37 which this book is older, um, sale price, $124 billion. The deal was signed by lawyers representing Marcos. And, um, these papers were actually notarized by the U S consul telling you that they were involved in it. They were then passed to the CIA. And according to

16:08 Norman Tony Dacus, D-A-C-U-S, who was paid a commission on the deal. The gold was flown out of the Philippines to Hong Kong on U.S. Air Force planes. 60 tons a week. Toshi used his share from the Luxembourg deal to buy real estate in Japan, all kinds of different apartment buildings and stuff. He made trips to America.

16:39 where he bought state-of-the-art electronic devices that was like ground detection type of thing. So he could continue to explore the different gold sites. There were also recoveries that were made offshore, meaning in the water. Because remember, they sunk ships, killing everybody on board. So Curtis was also contacted by a group wanting to...

17:12 salvage one of the ships that was sunk off the coast of China. And it was sunk by one of our submarines called Queenfish. The skipper of the sub, Commander Charles Elliot Laughlin, was actually court-martialed by the U.S. Navy. They're horrible about this.

17:42 Because the accusation immediately from Japan was that he had sunk an actual hospital ship, not the fake one, and it was a fake one, that killed 2,000 people. So he was actually court-martialed for it. He was later vindicated when records were discovered showing that it was a fake hospital ship that carried munitions and treasure.

18:13 Another ship, the Awamaru, which we talked about as well, was carrying $5 billion worth of treasure when it was sunk. She had 40 metric tons of gold, 12 metric tons of platinum, 150,000 carats of diamonds, titanium, and other material. Astronaut Scott Carpenter and John Lindbergh, the son of Charles Lindbergh,

18:44 had found a copy of the sub's log in Navy archives showing the exact location where it was sunk. He confirmed with the sub's exec officer, who happened to still be alive at the time. But it was like, if not in, real close to Chinese territorial waters. And they initially tried working with Beijing to do a joint recovery.

19:14 After they started the salvage operation, discovered exactly where it was at, Chinese Navy comes and runs them off and recovers it all themselves. Which, in quite frankness, it's their gold. They totally stole all of the crap. Not that the people are going to get their gold back, but it kind of was China's gold.

19:47 They had another one called the Optinort, which we talked about. We talked about that one in Chapter 5. It was captured off the coast of Java. It was from the Netherlands. And she also was a fake hospital ship. And they had 2,000 metric tons of gold on that ship.

20:16 And it's the one, if you remember the story that they, um, sold into the bay and then bolted up all the hatches and sunk it with the people still in it. Um, so there was a group of people that were going to get together and, um, recover that. But the people that were on it at the time that sold it into,

20:55 the harbor all got murdered and the senior officers were going to come back later and basically recover it. So the, the last survivor of that group of officers that knew where it had been scuttled at there. So there's only one left. He outlived them all. He goes to that Sakakawa guy who is like the underworld criminal and

21:30 He decides that they're going to work with Kodama, another underworld criminal guy, and they're going to try to do this recovery. But they start quibbling among themselves. And in 1990, the recovery was basically retried because it didn't go anywhere the first time.

22:00 Probably they waited until after the last survivor died now that they know where it's at. What is that? No, Donald Trump is not Jesus Christ. Don't come in here, stay in that kind of crap or you're going to be blocked. We don't do that kind of crap. That's your warning, Messenger 911. We don't do that crap. So if you're going to do that crap, just go ahead and sign off and skedaddle. Okay, so.

22:46 They brought along a submersible belonging to a DivCon International, which is an Australian recovery vehicle. And what I found interesting about that is the submersible part of it, because remember the submersible that went down to the Titanic. So obviously those companies are used.

23:14 um quite often for this this type of activity so in this case funny funny funny story the japanese are on the recovery vehicle with the australians so after they do the recovery and they get everything that they can off the ship then the japanese decide because they're leaving the next day

23:41 They decide that they're going to go ashore and have dinner. And the Australians take off and get to international waters before the Japanese even knew that they were gone. And they stole the entire recovered treasure and took it back to Australia. So I thought that was kind of funny.

24:05 The most publicized treasure hunters of the last 30 years was the Nippon Star Group, N-I-P-P-O-N. And just a hint up front, Nippon Star is a CIA front company. So General John Singleb, who, as we last left him, was part of the enterprise, the off-books private...

24:34 portion of the CIA, and this is where the overlap begins. Singlib first became a national hero at the end of Pacific War when he parachuted onto an island and released hundreds of POWs from Japanese concentration camps. After that, he became one of the China cowboys who was holed up in Korea while Mao's forces were taking over the mainland.

25:05 Singla, and by hold up in Korea, we'll get to Korea eventually. But Korea is not anything like we've been led to believe. And Singla being in Korea tells you everything you need to know, that that entire thing and the division of Korea, everything was a CIA op. So just put that in the back of your mind, because this is another validation that he was there.

25:35 And Singlib also was critical in the setup of the KCIA. He basically was the one that helped them organize the whole thing. And the KCIA is the ones that went out and trained all the Moonies to go down to South America and basically set up Gladio training camps down there and train all the people on how to torture and kill people. So the KCIA is very, very bad.

26:04 Not that ours is any good. So in the course of his long CIA career, Singlib worked with the most famous Cold War warriors like Ted Shackley, Klein, and Lansdale. In the 1970s, he was an American top military commander in Korea when he had the first of several public differences of opinion with Jimmy Carter.

26:33 Because Jimmy Carter is the one that forced him into retirement slash private CIA. So he's in the enterprise with Klein and a bunch of his other buddies at this point. And of course, they were all familiar with Santo Romano's gold recoveries that we've already talked about. They're familiar with Marco's recoveries because they're getting parts of that money this entire time.

27:07 So, after Marcos was removed, Singlib and two other companies called Nippon Star and, well, two, not two others, two, Nippon Star and Phoenix Exploration, that's the second one, they come to Manila to basically go gold hunting. And I want to tell you the names of a couple of other entities.

27:35 N-I-P-P-O-N was incorporated in Hong Kong. Phoenix Exploration was incorporated in London. That tells you a lot. Because at this time, Hong Kong is still London. So it's London in London. It's not Hong Kong in London. It's London in London. There's also a company called Helmut, H-E-L-M-U-T Trading, registered in Liberia. Sounds kind of German.

28:09 They were all based physically, not registered, but physically in Colorado and had close ties to Phoenix Associates, which was founded by Colonel Robert Brown. Colonel Robert Brown, if you recognize his name, was the publisher of Soldier of Fortune magazine, which tells you a lot about Soldier of Fortune magazine, too. He actually lived in the same neighborhood as Singlet.

28:42 They were buddies. So Singlib said, quote, normally I would not have been interested in buried treasure schemes, but the Nippon Star Group were not naive beachcombers. And I had, and I knew from past experience, the stories of buried Japanese gold in the Philippines were legitimate, unquote. He also said, quote, Marcos's $12 billion fortune actually came from treasure.

29:12 not skimmed off the USAID. But Marcos had only managed to rake off a dozen or so of the biggest sites. That left well over 100 untouched, unquote. And we also need to do a little bit more research on this. Singlib would be the security advisor in return for Nippon Star, giving a percentage of his take to the U.S. Council for World Freedom.

29:41 That's an organization that Singla is responsible for starting. So we definitely need to do a little bit more research into that one. So he basically, during this adventure with Nippon Star, he gets taken to the cleaners. He hires some of those crazy pointer guys that basically were just scamming him and taking his money. And so...

30:10 After several false starts, they realize that they're going to have to bite the bullet and call Curtis in order for them to make any progress with this venture. Well, of course, Curtis initially doesn't want to have anything to do with them because they all screwed him repeatedly. So, oh great, I just heard a woodpecker.

30:41 So initially he tells him, you guys are CIA. I'm not interested. Go pound sand. And this might not have been a good idea. So, however, the next morning after he hangs up on him and tells him he doesn't want to have anything to do with them, they're sitting in his office when he gets to work. There's a guy by the name of Foringer, F-O, his first name's Allen, F-O.

31:13 O-R-I-N-G-E-R, and his deputy, John Voss, V-O-S-S. So they said that they were with an outfit called Phoenix Exploration in Denver. See the connection? And that they were associated with Nippon Star. Later, Curtis said that he learned Phoenix Exploration was a CIA front company.

31:42 And Foringer was really the administrative head or office of the CIA station in Manila. Can't make this shit up. So Foringer pointed to the clock and said, in three minutes, you're going to get a phone call. And at exactly 9 a.m., the phone rings. Major General Robert Schweitzer, S-C-H-W-E-I-T-Z-E-R, is on the other end of the phone.

32:16 Schweitzer happened to be Ronald Reagan's senior army advisor in the National Security Council. So the year before this is all going on is the Iran-Contra. So their money was running a little low. Schweitzer had retired from active service and joined CGLIB in the enterprise.

32:46 So basically, he's working for the CIA, but pretending to be inside the NSC. Gosh, who just did that? Wasn't that Eric Taramella? Yes, yes, it was. He was a CIA agent pretending to be working in the White House. Nothing new under the sun. So his deputy when he was there, Colonel Dick Childress and others.

33:19 General Daniel Graham, who used to be the director of the DIA. And General Jack Vesey, V-E-S-E-Y, who was the former chairman of the Joint Staff. And former CIA Deputy Director Ray Klein, who currently at this time was working in the Center for Strategic Studies at Georgetown University. Because we find Georgetown University...

33:48 Almost as often in these schemes that we do Stanford and Oxford. So, Curtis said that General Schweitzer told him that he was calling from the executive building and that the old man next door, meaning Ronald Reagan, had personally endorsed the effort that Nippon Star and Phoenix Exploration go recover loot from the Philippines.

34:19 Because the White House and the CIA had to maintain deniability, Reagan could not give the project any official stamp of approval. But General Schweitzer said the U.S. Embassy in Manila had been fully briefed. The U.S. commanders at Subic Bay and Clark Air Base also would be providing men and helicopters and secured storage for the gold. Schweitzer played.

34:46 heavily on the patriotic duty of curtis as if he owed them a freaking thing after what they had done to him he also added now that marcos was gone and president corey aquino was there that she was going to cooperate a hundred percent and he would no longer be um under physical threat so curtis who of course had been badly burned by the john birch society and the u.s government

35:19 wanted nothing to do with any of this. However, since 1975, he had done a lot of research into the CIA's involvement in the entire gold operation in the Philippines. He had collected thousands of documents proving that they were involved and had been removing gold.

35:53 recuperate financially from what they had taken from him. So he said that it would be worth listening to what they had to say. Their next meeting was going to be February 11th, 1987, where they were going to meet at the Mandarin Hotel in Hong Kong. Over the next four days, they met in a hotel conference room, ate their meals together.

36:30 and Curtis insisted on taping the entire conference from start to finish. He gave us copies of all the tapes, meaning the authors, which allowed them to basically kind of do this next part of the book. As a further safeguard, Curtis brought along his partner, Dennis Barton, Chief Criminal Investigation for the IRS in Nevada. If anybody could make sure that Curtis...

37:02 did not get falsely accused of anything this time. Barton would be the guy. Later in the week, they were joined by Olaf Johnson, the Swedish psychic that had the foreknowledge or psychic power to realize to get the hell out of Dodge when they were in the Philippines before and left the day before they tried to kill Curtis. And he wanted him there, I think, to check the people out as well.

37:37 Because he's convinced the guy's psychic. Singleb told the group their greatest danger was that Japan's victims would band together and get a world court to freeze any further recoveries of the war loot. And that's what was prompting their need to go full bore. He said 32 countries all together had claimed that Japan had looted them.

38:10 Of their antiquities. 32 countries. Seems a little much. Even for Japan. But I mean they could have just been making this shit up too. To try to get Curtis to help. To. Curtis's surprise. It would emerge. In these conversations. That Singlib. Had persuaded the John Birch Society. To take over funding. Nippon Star. For this venture.

38:47 The guys that screwed him before are back again. It was Jay Agnew's son, Dan, who had Foringer recruit Curtis. Foringer's first phone call to Curtis was from the Agnew's attorney's office in Seattle, which is bizarre because it was the Agnew's who had destroyed Curtis financially and professionally in 1975.

39:19 bringing the criminal charges against him. So having destroyed Curtis, the Ag News told Singlib they would only finance Nippon Star recoveries in the Philippines if they could recruit Curtis to gain access to his maps. So Curtis says, quote, the Ag News ruined my life and now they wanted my help. You don't give something like that. You don't forgive something like that. I had been called the biggest criminal.

39:52 in the 20th century or words to that effect. If I was, I am certainly the dumbest. I was flat broke when I came back from the Philippines in 75 and I remain flat broke today, unquote. So while still at the hotel, General Senglib and Schweitzer worked on Curtis nonstop.

40:16 They basically tried to minimize Agnew's involvement. They told Curtis that they were offering him the best chance to ever make a recovery with the protection of the U.S. government, which doesn't do any good. It was a powerful argument. The whole U.S. establishment had come down on Curtis like a Mack truck, flattening him as if it was roadkill. Now that same establishment was pleading for his help.

40:49 He liked Singlib in particular, but he thought that they were all nuts. Singlib admitted spending upwards of $2 million in the failed attempts with the Pointers, one of which was the guy that we read about, that Paul Giga guy, that had been leading people around for years. The fact that they're CIA and they don't know the guy's a scammer, there should have been like literal light bulbs going off in his head at that point.

41:21 Alan Orringer was a nice looking guy in his mid thirties. And he told Curtis, quote, our game plan all along had been to hit a small site we control, which is underwater on private property and take a bar from there and demonstrate to President Aquino that should give us the full and complete blessing.

41:51 of the administration for all other sites. The problem was, Curtis discovered, that this was the anchor site on a reef in Cotatagan Bay, which Giga and Layron had been flogging to gullible people for years, which was the equivalent of selling them the Brooklyn Bridge. Once Curtis realized the generals had been duped on the anchor site,

42:22 He pressed them to tell him about the onshore site they were working. They had been taken to the site of Alfonso, a town outside of Kavite, by another pointer, fraudster, who owned the property. When Foringer described it, Curtis could not believe his ears. Layron had told Nippon Star that as a boy he had seen the Japanese hide treasure in a deep pit they dug under the house next door.

42:52 which also belonged to the same family. The excited generals put him on a monthly retainer and started to dig. When they found nothing, they figured it was deeper, so they kept digging and digging and digging until they basically realized the guy was lying. Eventually, they had dug 300 feet down. And not once, Curtis points out, did they ask,

43:30 How did the Japanese dig that far in the 1940s? Not once. And they're using all modern equipment. By their own admission, they spent about $1.5 million on this garbage. Curtis was so amazed at the backbiting in Hong Kong, although they claimed to be old pals, the tape recordings show that General Singlib and Schweitzer

44:07 were privately at each other's throats. Singlib insisted on taking charge of security personally. He said the only Filipino he trusted was a guy by the name of Teodoro Loxon, President Aquino's Minister of Information. Go figure. One liar loves another liar. Singlib and Loxon had also was very...

44:36 good friends with U.S. Ambassador Stephen Bosworth. The president, Corey Aquino, Singlib says, really doesn't do anything without consulting with the U.S. ambassador. Probably because she doesn't want to get killed. Just a thought. Singlib swore that he had legal contracts with the Aquino government to dig on any treasure site in the country, including federal property.

45:07 He showed Curtis this authorization written on presidential task force stationery and signed by a guy by the name of Wilfredo San Juan. Later, it turns out that San Juan had no authority at all to sign anything. Singlet boasted about bribing people in the palace and in the security command and that the guerrilla leaders on the left.

45:38 had basically, while a threat, they had bribed the security of the government to protect them from the threat. But I thought they were CIA. When so many people are bribed, word gets around. A great many Filipinos knew about the activities of Nippon Star in the Phoenix. While Foringer was intelligent and rational, Curtis said he had not commanded whole armies.

46:08 So he was shouted down by the generals repeatedly. When they wanted his opinion, they would ask him to give it. Yeah, nothing like red flags flying everywhere. So they asked Curtis to give them an easy site where they could make a quick recovery in order to increase their credibility, both in Manila and back in Washington. Assuming that Senglib really did have permissions from Aquino to do the recovery on federal land,

46:41 which was a big if. Curtis suggested targeting sites on Corregidor. He explained that there were several big sites there and a small one that would be easy and pretty much out in the open, easy to get to. And they were sure to be seen, so having a permit was absolutely essential. Singlib claimed his permit was correct. He had the men in place to carry out the recovery.

47:17 Singlib had brought in 37 U.S. Special Forces and Delta Forces who arrived at Manila International in groups of two or three traveling under false names and false passports. Huh. That sounds an awful lot like CIA people, not Delta Force. While the generals prepared a game plan, Curtis went back to Nevada to resume his 9-to-5.

47:50 job as a sales manager. On the plane, he realized he had joined a ship of fools. Singlib and Foringer were charming and personable in different ways, but Curtis seriously doubted they could achieve their goal. A week later, he received a handwritten note from Foringer addressed to his code name, George. Dang, they've already given him a code name. How cool.

48:22 This is what it said, quote, following are some quick notes I would prefer not to have to relate to you over the phone. Board of Directors of Nippon have met and decided that Singlib must stay out of the Philippines for the foreseeable future and should publicly be disassociated from Nippon. That will be a hard pill for him to swallow. We may find ourselves dealing with a hostile takeover attempt by investors loyal to him.

48:52 Unquote. As if it couldn't get any crazier. He told Curtis that all three of Singlum's existing gold recovery projects were being closed down because they were fake. Nippon Star had continued as a club for super patriots from the CIA, Pentagon, State Department, and National Security Council.

49:18 People like Zinglib and Schweitzer. But its main purpose would be to divert attention from what was really going on. In its place, the Paladins were setting up, that's like the private people, were setting up a new company called Philippine American Freedom Foundation. Where did they get these names? They make such a mockery of everything.

49:49 And it was going to be used to pursue gold recovery. You know, because that's what you name gold recovery companies, right? Freedom Foundations. Freedom for who? Because the gold's used to enslave us. Always with the oxymoron names. All right. Foringer said that they would use the first ton of gold they recovered to complete their purchase of a company called Beignet, a top Filipino.

50:22 gold mining company which Marcos had used to re-smelt the war loot with help from the mafia base in Miami and Nassau. Beignet would serve as a basically a private front company conduit for moving black gold into the world market. Foringer said the bulk of the proceeds would go to funding defense projects like the B-1 bomber and the Star Wars program.

50:54 In effect, to build a new military industrial complex controlled by us. And the us is the black CIA, not the us as in Americans. They wanted to build an entire separate private military. According to his letter, Foringer had drawn a chart showing the relationship of all these people as partners with Phoenix Exploration and Nippon Star.

51:24 In this joint venture, Foringer said he hoped Curtis and his friend Barton, calling themselves C&B, Salvage, would endorse this political strategy. Curtis desperately wanted to make a gold recovery for his own sake, to get back to where he had been financially before he got screwed. But he had serious misgivings working with this bunch of Keystone cops.

51:59 He urged Foringer to concentrate on making a quick recovery at the movie theater site on Corregidor. This was the easiest, simplest, quickest site Curtis could give them. He could have done it himself years ago, but this site was right out in the open, so it required official sanction. Any child could do it, but could these generals do it? I love that.

52:32 Opposite General MacArthur's headquarters at Topside, there was a bombed-out movie theater beside it a small cachet, 18 bars of gold, simple to reach, with a shovel at a depth of only 15 feet in soft soil, if you knew where to dig. 18 75-kilo bars meant millions of dollars. Curtis had learned about it in 1975.

52:58 when he and Marcos flew by helicopter for sightseeing. One of the photos taken that day showed them strolling around the movie theater, its walls peppered with shrapnel. Colonel Velicruz saw the photo. He told Curtis an amusing story that he had heard from an eyewitness in Tokyo while meeting with Prince Takeda. The eyewitness said that he was at Corregidor.

53:27 visiting a senior Japanese officer when American forces began their assault to recapture the island in 1945. A heavy bomb landed across the street by the theater, blasting a crater 15 feet deep. The Navy commander still had 18 bars of gold to hide, and he saw his chance, so he buried them in the bomb crater. Genius.

54:00 The paratroopers of the 11th Airborne and the Parachute Regiment began hitting the ground. Fighting was fierce and the Navy officer was among those killed. After 30 years, an eyewitness could recall that the crater was next to the theater, but not exactly where. In 1975, while he was working with the Lieber Group, Curtis went back to the island.

54:28 supposedly to visit the Pacific War Memorial, the walls of its rotunda displayed vintage black and white aerial photos showing the 1945 crater. Isn't that crazy? So he knew exactly where it was from those photos. They obviously could dig them up fairly easy, but again, it's right out in the open. When all was set, 10 Americans from Phoenix and Nippon Star arrived.

55:00 On the island, they brought with them a group of Filipino soldiers to guard the perimeter, led by a sergeant from the Presidential Security Command. Among the Americans were Fouringer, President Reagan's man, General Schweitzer, five colonels, you can tell this is screwed up already, a U.S. Navy SEAL, and Curtis's associate, Dennis Barton and John Lemon.

55:28 One of the five colonels was Eldon Cummings, a veteran of CIA covert operations in El Salvador, Operation Gladio. Two others were Colonel Rock Myers and Colonel James York. The SEAL was an equally impressive guy, Tom Mix, M-I-X, now attached to a shady company called GIMCO, G-I-M-C-O.

55:59 or Geo-Innerspace, depending on which title they wanted to use that day. They worked closely with Nippon Star on offshore recoveries of Japanese treasure hulks. That day, they were all heavily armed in case of danger. Leaving the five colonels in charge of the work, Schweitzer returned to their safe house.

56:31 south of manila that's so funny first the colonels got out um an earth resistivity sensor and by the 1980s these had advanced to the part point where you could actually use them to detect metal over the next five days they dug holes 10 feet deep and they expected to hit the bars the next day when all of a sudden there was a whoosh

57:03 and three big Filipino Army Huey helicopters came whooshing in over the heads of the armed soldiers in flak jackets. When the other Hueys, one landed, the others basically had their guns pointed on them, followed by a Filipino Army general. He told the Americans that he had been sent by the general, head of the armed forces, to throw them off the island.

57:36 which was federal property. Foringer showed him the letter that General Singlib had been waving around saying that it was legitimate, and of course they tell him that it's not, so they leave. General Schweitzer informed that his hand-picked team had been expelled from the island was livid. He threatened to phone President Reagan and have him intervene personally with Aquino. He was persuaded by Curtis that

58:06 That was not a good idea. A lot of people in the Filipino government and the armed forces were offended by the Highlanders' attitudes of the people that were working with the Nippon Star Project. Manila journalists learned that this company was funded by John and Joan Harrigan with Mooney money. Okay, so just stop.

58:41 This is the CIA being funded by the CIA being used by the CIA, right? Because the Moonies are a solely 100% CIA creation under the KCIA banner. Is that crazy?

59:14 When Nippon Star first set up in Manila, Singlib had bought weapons on the black market, including grenade launchers, for which he then was unable to get a license because they turned out to be stolen. This is literally the Keystone Cops. And these are supposedly hardened, proven CIA warriors. He also...

59:46 If you're going to buy a gun on the black market, why the hell would you license the damn thing? He also bought a fleet of cars, which turned out all to be stolen too. They had belonged to Marco's secret police boss, General Fabian Ver. And when Ver fled in exile, the cars were sold privately and Ver pocketed the money. When Singlib tried to get the cars registered,

1:00:16 it emerged that they were all missing government property. These episodes made everybody on the island, and it's a very cozy island when it comes to knowing everybody else's business, that they basically were just like Keystone Cops.

1:00:44 Journalist wrote, quote, if the Philippines is to remain a free and democratic society and not to fall into the abyss of CIA engineered and created civil conflict to prepare the stage for a forced intrusion or deployment of American troops and to insist on the retention of U.S. bases.

1:01:10 The movements and activities of these enemies of democracy should be closely monitored and curtailed. So the American or the Filipino people all know these are CIA gangsters basically trying to ensure their government is never able to operate effectively without CIA involved. When Phoenix and Nippon Star

1:01:38 were booted off the island, Singlib was in Washington testifying to Congress about what? The Iran-Contra affair. Another thing they effed up. So, when Curtis sent word to Foringer that he was pulling out of the joint venture, the nucleus of Phoenix and the Enterprise descended in a rush on his home.

1:02:04 in Las Vegas, including General Schweitzer and Singleb. They pleaded with him to reconsider. At one point, Foringer asked to speak to Curtis privately. They went outside to sit in a Chevy Blazer. He explained to me that he had to deliver me back into the fold or they would eliminate him. I asked, who's they? You mean the CIA? He said, no.

1:02:33 Not just them. He said Geo Mill Tech had threatened him, saying that he should have forced me to stay. He also said Agnew was giving him problems. Now, you don't know what part of this to believe, because this is exactly the psychological operations that they pull on you. This is basically trying to tug at your heartstrings. But Curtis had made up his mind.

1:03:01 The clincher was his discovery that the house next door to Nippon Star's safe house, where General Schweitzer and Singleb and all of the big guys had lived when they were in Manila, had been rented by the KGB agents from the Soviet embassy, and they were monitoring and recording everything. It's all one big club. We had all the windows open.

1:03:34 So they just sat by their windows and heard everything we said, including our radio communications, which were decoded there. I went bonkers when I found this out, Curtis said. So several months go by and Foringer contacted Curtis again and again, pleading with him to reconsider. Singlib and Schweitzer also phoned. Curtis was adamant. The generals did not blame themselves.

1:04:08 Everyone was blaming Foringer. Not long afterwards, in Hawaii, on his way back to Manila, Foringer was strolling in his bathing suit along a crowded beach at Waikiki when his leg was nicked by a passerby holding something sharp.

1:04:42 Later that day, he was rushed to the hospital, had difficult breathing. The doctor suspected a shellfish toxin. For a while, he was near death. Gradually, his condition improved and he was returned to Manila to recuperate at his own apartment, which he had been sharing with a Filipino when a friend came in.

1:05:16 One morning, Foringer had lost a bit of weight and was again complaining of breathing problems. He was losing his appetite and he had his friend get some Italian food, hoping that that would help. When the men returned to the house, Foringer was having a seizure. They rushed him to a nearby clinic.

1:05:50 where it was diagnosed that he had bronchial pneumonia, and something was very much wrong with his immune system. So having another seizure, his heart stopped, and all attempts failed to recover him. So basically, they killed him. Referring to this episode on Waikiki Beach, Curtis said, one of Alan's associates told me later,

1:06:22 that it could have been an assassination attempt. Whenever that happened, whatever happened in Hawaii, the Manila's Hospital classic abstract does not indicate foul play. Well, that was their final thing, that there wasn't foul play involved. But they buy people in the hospital, too. So who knows? So hold on just one second.

1:07:08 All right. Getting a little dark out here. Got to be able to read my notes. Okay. So, Foringer had been under a lot of pressure. And basically, the pressure was being put on him to try to get Curtis back into the fold. And on a trip to San Francisco in 87, in which he broke off all remaining ties to the generals, he had severe stomach trouble.

1:07:47 talking about Curtis, and had to undergo immediate surgery. When he came out of the anesthesia, he was kept on painkillers that made him groggy. One of the visitors to the hospital was a total stranger by the name of Charles McDougald, who said he was writing a book about Yamashita's gold. A former Green Beret, he said that he had studied at the University of Philippines, where he had a close friend.

1:08:20 who was now Aquino's national security advisor. On repeated trips to the hospital, he told Curtis about various treasure sites. In his fuzzy state, Curtis began to think that McDougal might be a suitable partner, assuming that his connections to Soriano was solid. They discussed going after one of the treasures in Fort Santiago under cover of a restoration project.

1:08:49 McDougal said that he broached the idea, who discussed it with the president, and she approved. They would go after Prince Chichibu, who had placed in the third basement of the fort at the bottom of one of the air shafts. So, basically, they were going to create a new company called International Precious Metals. And that this McDougal...

1:09:19 guy was going to participate and share in the proceeds after the Philippine government had taken its share. The excavation could proceed in stages with Aquino's approval required at each stage. They would tunnel through the backfill that the Japanese had put in the way.

1:09:43 They began work. There were four types of booby traps. There were 100, 250, 500 and 1,000 pound aerial bombs that were put in all of this. Bottles of cyanide, which we were told about. At some sites, there were terracotta pipes that were easily broke and would flood the tunnel. There were trip wires and fine sand.

1:10:13 And remember how they were saying that they had like these false bottoms in the sand. And if you broke one of those, it would like the sand would all come on top of you and basically bury you alive. So he gave strict orders about how to shore up all of the walls and how to proceed. As pressure mounted to reach the targets, the workers and supervisors started becoming careless.

1:10:44 and three of them working deep in the tunnel ahead of where it had been shored up suddenly burst a sand trap. Sand poured down and crushed the two men. The third one, with his feet protruding, was able to be pulled out alive. Curtis and the security chief were notified, but no one was prepared for the public outcry. Journalists crowded.

1:11:08 into Fort Santiago, the Philippine Senate demanded an investigation. Marco's cronies led the attack, blaming Curtis for the deaths and desecrating the national monument. He countered that the gold they were on the verge of recovering would pay the Filipino national debt. President Aquino backed Curtis. She authorized the company to continue for another 90 days. Curtis knew he was only a few meters from hitting the gold. To prove it, he brought in a drill rig and

1:11:37 bore down, drilling a number of holes. On April 23, 1988, the bit came up with a fragment of gold, marble, and wood. The Golden Lily map showed the gold bars were in wood crates on marble slabs. Curtis had hit pay dirt. The electronic sensors also directed a small but significant target just to the left of this drill hole.

1:12:05 Probably the oil drum that Ben had talked about that was backfilled at the last minute. It could be worth millions. President Aquino was elated. Once again, however, there was mischief backstage. Fundraiser George Wartinger returned from Nevada with Ernie Wittenberg, who claimed to be a building contractor. Wittenberg's money actually came from drug trafficking. He would later be convicted and imprisoned.

1:12:35 Soriano and McDougall both knew that Wordinger was feeding Wittenberg's drug money into this project all along, but nobody told Curtis. When Curtis protested, Wittenberg countered by offering to buy a controlling interest in the project for $500,000 cash on the condition that Curtis be removed and sent home. Now that Curtis had located the gold, he was no longer needed. Teresa, too, all over again.

1:13:06 Any gold bug who wanted to make a recovery in the Philippines needed Curtis because he had the maps and understood them. But once Curtis identified a target, he was expendable. This is typical of treasure hunters as parodied in the book Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Greed feeds narcissism and narcissism feeds greed. Soriano begged me to take Wittenberg's money, Curtis told us.

1:13:34 It was drug money and I wanted no part of it. Soriano then asked Curtis to turn over to him personally the treasure maps for Fort Santiago and for another important site at a bridge. When Curtis refused, the national security chief dropped the bomb. He told Curtis that unless he left the Philippines immediately, he would urge Aquino to cancel the permit. If Curtis cooperated, Soriano would let Curtis come back later. If he refused to leave,

1:14:02 he would be arrested and charges would be filed against him. Grimly, Curtis packed his bags and flew home. According to the grand jury testimony, the moment Curtis had gone, Soriano and McDougal took on Wittenberg as a full partner and moved ahead with the recovery in Fort Santiago. A member of their team testified that they recovered an oil drum packed with 24 small carat gold bars, gold, silver.

1:14:30 Loose Jules, the main target which Curtis had drilled into, was a few meters below that, but they would be on top of it soon. They also started digging at the bridge where they put Wittenberg in charge. In 1942, the railway bridge over that river was blown up during the American retreat. The bridge had collapsed, but a big concrete abutment was still in place.

1:14:58 Subsequently, Golden Lily had dug a deep vault beneath one of the abutments, placing a 340 metric tons of 50 kilo gold bars inside safes and then put them in there. The cache was hidden with a slab resembling the original concrete. Unfortunately for him, Curtis had revealed to his partners that it would be simple to penetrate the vault by excavating from the side.

1:15:27 That always kept him from doing the site himself was the adjacent highway, which made it too conspicuous. Now that Aquino's administration was conveniently rerouting the highways, so Wittenberg, McDougall, and Soriano could use drill rigs without being observed by every passer car. Soriano arranged to have the official permits and a few squatters removed.

1:15:52 Work at the bridge proceeded quickly when Craig Nelson, a California investor, gave $100,000 to bring in a drill rig able to bore the six-feet diameter hole. By November, they were down 170 feet below the bridge abutment. When Nelson arrived at the site that morning to check on the progress, he found Ernie Wittenberg in a state of excitement. I touched a Jap.

1:16:19 Ernie Wittenberg told us that he went down the whole elevator. He saw and touched two of the eight safes that were visible and said they had a plan to bring in army trucks to haul the gold away. Soriano immediately made a Trans-Pacific phone call to McDougal, who cut short a trip to California to fly back to Manila. McDougal told me that I must have misunderstood Wittenberg. He said Ernie Wittenberg didn't actually see this.

1:16:48 safes, Nelson said to McDougall, insisted that they had not reached the chamber concerning the safes. Realizing he was being lied to, Nelson returned to the site to see for himself and discovered that he was not allowed to enter, although he had paid for the drilling rig. All Filipino workers had been sent home and the security at the bridge was taken over by two heavily armed members of the U.S. Special Forces.

1:17:17 friends of McDougal, one of them a full colonel, who reportedly took leave from active duty just to do this job. McDougal told all of those involved that water had flooded the hole, so they had to abandon the project. Colonel Canson, head of the constable in the province, said he assigned two army trucks to McDougal for five nights.

1:17:42 which means they were taking it out at night, obviously. Eyewitnesses claimed the trucks and armored cars carried heavy loads from the bridge where the cargo was loaded under barges on the river. Subsequently, word got out that 325 metric tons of gold were for sale in secure storage at the Manila airport. Go figure. At least 15 tons of gold went unaccounted for. Remaining partners

1:18:12 in the adventure now turned on each other. Fundraiser George Wardinger told a federal grand jury in Nevada that a total of $1.5 million in drug money had been poured into the digs at the fort and the bridge by Ernie Wittenberg. Wardinger testified that McDougal and Soriano both knew it was drug money. McDougal said, you know, if this ever breaks in the press, we...

1:18:41 he will be in a lot of trouble. It was drug money, Wordinger stated. I mean, if that broke in the press over there, we would have been crucified. Indeed, when Manila newspapers reported that some of Wittingberg's drug money was transferred to Soriano's personal account, President Aquino demanded his resignation as National Security Advisor, effective February 15, 1989.

1:19:06 Wardenker also testified that Wittenberg paid $50,000 of furniture to equip a new house McDougal purchased in Manila and helped to finance a new house McDougal bought in San Francisco. He said Wittenberg also gave Soriano and McDougal each $50,000 in cash. The grand jury then called in McDougal. Government prosecutors initially sought forfeiture of McDougal's new San Francisco home, but

1:19:34 He was persuaded instead to prepare a report on his partner. Thanks in part to his testimony, Wittenberg was tried and sentenced to life in prison for drug trafficking. Like Humphrey Bogart and his partners, all of these men were obsessed with gold and turned on each other. But they are small fries compared to the international bankers who accepted the gold on deposit and went on about their merry life. And Curtis, like Ben, still got screwed.

1:20:06 Is that crazy? All right. So we're down to the last chapter. Yay. So we're going to do that on Thursday. Let me run through all of our comments real quick. Y'all get so busy in the comments. Okay. Let's see. I probably ought to leave my light on, huh? Y'all can't even see me. Let's see. I'm going to put it over here by the edge of my computer.

1:20:36 So it don't look like we're having a seance out here. Oh, that might be even more scary. All right. Let's see what we got. They met in Las Vegas. All right. We've already went through that. Latter-day Saints knocking on doors. No, I don't think that's Latter-day Saints, is it? I think that's Jehovah Witness. Let's get them religions correct.

1:21:09 Okay, I would think they would have used a notary. Yeah, I think. Let's see. Yeah, this is like families when someone dies, right? Treasure hunting brings out the absolute worst in everybody. That's kind of the moral of this story, actually. Funny how Australia, yep.

1:21:45 Well, what's funny to me about the whole Australia story is, you know, Australia was a penal colony for England, right? So go ahead and mess with them because they're going to take your shit. I just thought that was hilarious. Okay, so SR-71, just to refresh. Yes.

1:22:09 All of the maps were, the original maps that were wax coated, the big heavy ones, were all burnt on the balcony in the Philippines. Remember that. But prior to that, remember, he had taken pictures of all of the maps. He has everything. All of the maps, he was able to figure out most of the symbols on the maps. So he's good to go.

1:22:36 He knows his shit. And these people keep messing with him. So yes, you're very good, SR-71, for remembering that. All of the original physical wax coated, except for the three that Ben kept. The three that Ben kept is still buried in his backyard, as far as the story goes. Let's see. Since when is the military on time? Come on, come on, come on.

1:23:11 I can tell you in my family, I'm the only one on time. This knowledge will get you killed. That's kind of the moral of the story. The prize should have been pay me what you owe me. I agree. Oh, thank you, Jan, for the, I actually painted that cross. I chalk paint everything. I buy stuff at yard sales that, and then I chalk paint everything.

1:23:48 My colors out here are teal. Not that y'all need to know that, but one day we'll do a tour. It's a pretty cool outside deck area with a little outdoor kitchen. I absolutely love my, I live outside. Even when it's hot as Hades, I live outside on my back deck. I told my husband if we were ever to strike it rich, I could have an outside deck the size that I have here and

1:24:18 little room with an air conditioner to sleep at night. I'd need only 200 square feet because I'd have an outdoor kitchen and I want it next to a body of water. That's my dream. 92 watching, only 22. You go get them, Rosie. Get over there and put some thumbs up for us. Wow. Thank you, Rosie, for herding everyone along. That's awesome.

1:24:50 Gotta have Americans in everything. I like this parts of the story where there's American names because the Japanese and Filipino names send me for a loop. Keystone cops meet Larry, Curly, and Moe. Absolutely. You're right, SR-71. They should have just pretended to be plumbers.

1:25:23 Cat skills in the house. JB Welk. Is that Welk? Week. Thanks for being here. And SR71's now been adopted as our official greeter in our live chat. I love it. Bosses and bodies. Yeah. Let's see. The answer. You guys are good.

1:25:57 Sounds more like he was poisoned. Yes, I actually believe that's exactly what happened. Turns out... Y'all are good. Y'all need to start us a Gladio miniseries. Just think of the numbers of folks whose eyes would be opened. Indiana Jones. I'm going to tell you something here, JB, in just a second. Let's see. It's on Alpha Warrior.

1:26:28 I think he's talking about something in addition to that. Now it sounds like Oak Island. Actually, you know, it's funny that you say that because Rosie, because my husband has said when I first read this book and I was telling him some of the crap, crazy crap, we don't, we didn't ever watch Oak Island, but there was a few times when he would be watching something either after it or before it, where there would be pieces of it that we watched.

1:26:58 I just can't stand the added drama. But that's exactly what he said. He's like, isn't that like that show that's on television on the island? And I'm like, yeah, I think you're right. Again, I didn't watch it, but it definitely sounds like it to me. Those are just interviews. I'm talking about a written script, produced video. I knew you were, Katie. I'm going to get there in a second.

1:27:28 Curtis is akin to pig, pin, penis. Actually, you know, I think he was a really decent guy. I mean, he was trying to do the right thing. He was given a business opportunity, never in his wildest imagination, when he was given the original business opportunity. I don't think anybody would have thought that it was possible that someone was going to kill you.

1:27:57 I don't know if he fully comprehended what he was getting into, but he definitely got screwed over as a result of it. But he signed his own leave papers again. So I have to tell you, this makes me, and I'm going to have to run here real quick. I'll get through the rest of these real quick.

1:28:23 Because I've got to check out a lead on another story that we're doing that we're going to try to break in the next week. It's going to blow your mind about special forces. I've got some theories on that. Let's go through the rest of these real quick. I used to love Oak Island. All right. So a couple of things. Hopefully y'all saw the pictures I posted. I went to Badlands.

1:28:51 They're putting out a documentary. It's going to be downloadable, if that's a word, 1 May for free. And it'll be put on their website for everybody to watch for free. It is a movie that is perfect for showing your relatives, your friends, your neighbors, your church, people, on what's going on in the world, for real. It is very well done. And the da-da-da moment.

1:29:22 is they mention Operation Gladio in it. And you know why they did that, in my opinion, is because we've been on Badlands Media talking about Operation Gladio. We've been on...

1:29:37 Twitter. We've been on True Social. We've been everywhere talking about Operation Gladio. We've been doing it via this Rumble channel. And thanks to all of you and getting the words out, getting people on here. People are now inviting me into spaces because y'all are spreading the word. I see every one of you every day reposting my post, tagging me and things. Hey, get on here. I love it. Get on the spaces. They're talking about something that sounds like Gladio. Please keep that up. We're getting the word out.

1:30:07 I do have to share with you, there was a movie producer there that produced that documentary and also produced a documentary for General Flynn, the one that he's going around viewing. There was two people, not me, that suggested that he needs to do a documentary about Operation Gladio. I'll keep you posted. I think that would be sweet.

1:30:34 Obviously, it's a huge story and it definitely needs more exposure. So, oh, and today I got invited to meet Catherine Austin Fitz. If y'all know anything about finance, the woman's the guru. I mean, like the guru. So that was totally cool. She got around to talking about how.

1:31:00 Trillions of dollars have been stolen out of the U.S. Treasury. And of course, my only question was, where did it go? And so she kind of, you know, Bank of International Settlements, whatever. And at the end of the day, I didn't get a definitive answer, but she went and started talking about gold. Well, immediately I go to Golden Lily. So I, after she.

1:31:27 went on to other questions, I went and talked to her assistant in the back of the room. And I said, can you please tell me, does she know about Operation Gladio? And the woman's face was like, her jaw dropped. And she's like, yes, do you know? And I'm like, I do know. I'm doing a whole series on it. And she's like, oh my gosh, Catherine's going to want to know that you know, and she's going to want to talk to you.

1:31:51 So it was just a wonderful day. And I wanted to share that with you. I want to thank you again all for being here. And we're going to keep up the work. Keep up retweeting or reposting, whatever. And I will see you guys soon. Thanks for being here.

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Robert Curtis operated_in Nevada host_asserted ▶ 2:49

“So we're back to Robert Curtis. Everybody remembers who Robert Curtis is. He's the guy that had the mining company in Nevada and almost got killed by Marcos, went over, showed him, took all of his equ…”

Ferdinand Marcos did_business_with Robert Curtis host_asserted ▶ 2:49

Ferdinand Marcos targeted_for_regime_change Robert Curtis host_asserted ▶ 2:49

Robert Curtis moved_to Las Vegas host_asserted ▶ 3:18

“fingerprint the gold so that it looks like it came from the Philippines, showed them where a couple of sites were, and then they tried to kill him. So Robert Curtis, and then of course he went through…”

John Birch Society targeted_for_regime_change Robert Curtis host_asserted ▶ 3:18

Robert Curtis did_business_with Ferdinand Marcos host_asserted ▶ 5:20

“So you can imagine they were intel sharers at the very least. And so Marcos decides that he's going to do the recovery in a smaller island that's just off the outside bay of Manila Bay. And it's a cra…”

Toshi member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 13:35

“who lived in Tokyo, but he had been an intel officer during the Operation Golden Lily on the Philippines, as far as burying all of that treasure. So he worked around, not necessarily in the direct pre…”

Toshi did_business_with Ferdinand Marcos host_asserted ▶ 14:37

“working to do recoveries. And in 1981, Toshi was one of the group of Japanese involved with President Marco and his big recovery in the Santa Maria Mountains. The gold was processed through that compa…”

Ferdinand Marcos sold_to Toshi host_asserted ▶ 15:07

“Gold to make it look like it was from the Philippines. Using Curtis's stolen equipment. So Marcos in 1983 sells a huge load of gold on the international market. Toshi said some of that gold was from h…”

CIA covered_up Charles Elliot Laughlin host_asserted ▶ 17:12

“salvage one of the ships that was sunk off the coast of China. And it was sunk by one of our submarines called Queenfish. The skipper of the sub, Commander Charles Elliot Laughlin, was actually court-…”

Scott Carpenter did_business_with John Lindbergh host_asserted ▶ 18:13

“Another ship, the Awamaru, which we talked about as well, was carrying $5 billion worth of treasure when it was sunk. She had 40 metric tons of gold, 12 metric tons of platinum, 150,000 carats of diam…”

John Singlaub member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 24:05

“The most publicized treasure hunters of the last 30 years was the Nippon Star Group, N-I-P-P-O-N. And just a hint up front, Nippon Star is a CIA front company. So General John Singleb, who, as we last…”

KCIA trained Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 25:35

“And Singlib also was critical in the setup of the KCIA. He basically was the one that helped them organize the whole thing. And the KCIA is the ones that went out and trained all the Moonies to go dow…”

John Singlaub founded KCIA host_asserted ▶ 25:35

John Singlaub worked_with Raymond Klein host_asserted ▶ 26:04

“Not that ours is any good. So in the course of his long CIA career, Singlib worked with the most famous Cold War warriors like Ted Shackley, Klein, and Lansdale. In the 1970s, he was an American top m…”

John Singlaub worked_with Ted Shackley host_asserted ▶ 26:04

John Singlaub worked_with Edward Lansdale host_asserted ▶ 26:04

Jimmy Carter removed_from_power John Singlaub host_asserted ▶ 26:33

“Because Jimmy Carter is the one that forced him into retirement slash private CIA. So he's in the enterprise with Klein and a bunch of his other buddies at this point. And of course, they were all fam…”

John Singlaub did_business_with Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 27:07

“So, after Marcos was removed, Singlib and two other companies called Nippon Star and, well, two, not two others, two, Nippon Star and Phoenix Exploration, that's the second one, they come to Manila to…”

Helmut Trading located_in Liberia host_asserted ▶ 27:35

“N-I-P-P-O-N was incorporated in Hong Kong. Phoenix Exploration was incorporated in London. That tells you a lot. Because at this time, Hong Kong is still London. So it's London in London. It's not Hon…”

Phoenix Exploration located_in Hong Kong host_asserted ▶ 27:35

Nippon Star Group located_in Hong Kong host_asserted ▶ 27:35

Helmut Trading located_in Colorado host_asserted ▶ 28:09

“They were all based physically, not registered, but physically in Colorado and had close ties to Phoenix Associates, which was founded by Colonel Robert Brown. Colonel Robert Brown, if you recognize h…”

Robert Brown published Soldier of Fortune host_asserted ▶ 28:09

Robert Brown founded Phoenix Associates host_asserted ▶ 28:09

John Singlaub founded United States Council for World Freedom host_asserted ▶ 29:41

“That's an organization that Singla is responsible for starting. So we definitely need to do a little bit more research into that one. So he basically, during this adventure with Nippon Star, he gets t…”

Phoenix Exploration front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 31:13

“O-R-I-N-G-E-R, and his deputy, John Voss, V-O-S-S. So they said that they were with an outfit called Phoenix Exploration in Denver. See the connection? And that they were associated with Nippon Star. …”

Allen Foringer member_of Phoenix Exploration host_asserted ▶ 31:13

Allen Foringer member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 31:42

“And Foringer was really the administrative head or office of the CIA station in Manila. Can't make this shit up. So Foringer pointed to the clock and said, in three minutes, you're going to get a phon…”

Robert Schweitzer member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 32:16

“Schweitzer happened to be Ronald Reagan's senior army advisor in the National Security Council. So the year before this is all going on is the Iran-Contra. So their money was running a little low. Sch…”

Robert Schweitzer member_of National Security Council host_asserted ▶ 32:16

Ronald Reagan funded Phoenix Exploration host_asserted ▶ 33:48

“Almost as often in these schemes that we do Stanford and Oxford. So, Curtis said that General Schweitzer told him that he was calling from the executive building and that the old man next door, meanin…”

Ronald Reagan funded Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 33:48

John Birch Society funded Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 38:10

“Of their antiquities. 32 countries. Seems a little much. Even for Japan. But I mean they could have just been making this shit up too. To try to get Curtis to help. To. Curtis's surprise. It would eme…”

John Singlaub persuaded John Birch Society host_asserted ▶ 38:10

Dan Agnew recruited Robert Curtis host_asserted ▶ 38:47

“The guys that screwed him before are back again. It was Jay Agnew's son, Dan, who had Foringer recruit Curtis. Foringer's first phone call to Curtis was from the Agnew's attorney's office in Seattle, …”

John Birch Society targeted_for_regime_change Robert Curtis host_asserted ▶ 38:47

General Senglum did_business_with General Schweitzer host_asserted ▶ 39:52

“in the 20th century or words to that effect. If I was, I am certainly the dumbest. I was flat broke when I came back from the Philippines in 75 and I remain flat broke today, unquote. So while still a…”

Leopoldo Giga did_business_with Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 40:49

“He liked Singlib in particular, but he thought that they were all nuts. Singlib admitted spending upwards of $2 million in the failed attempts with the Pointers, one of which was the guy that we read …”

General Senglum funded Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 40:49

Alan Orringer member_of Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 41:21

“Alan Orringer was a nice looking guy in his mid thirties. And he told Curtis, quote, our game plan all along had been to hit a small site we control, which is underwater on private property and take a…”

Teodoro Locsin member_of Philippines documented ▶ 44:07

“were privately at each other's throats. Singlib insisted on taking charge of security personally. He said the only Filipino he trusted was a guy by the name of Teodoro Loxon, President Aquino's Minist…”

General Senglum did_business_with Teodoro Locsin host_asserted ▶ 44:07

General Senglum did_business_with Stephen Bosworth host_asserted ▶ 44:36

“good friends with U.S. Ambassador Stephen Bosworth. The president, Corey Aquino, Singlib says, really doesn't do anything without consulting with the U.S. ambassador. Probably because she doesn't want…”

Stephen Bosworth member_of United States documented ▶ 44:36

Wilfredo San Juan signed General Senglum host_asserted ▶ 45:07

“He showed Curtis this authorization written on presidential task force stationery and signed by a guy by the name of Wilfredo San Juan. Later, it turns out that San Juan had no authority at all to sig…”

General Senglum paid Philippines host_asserted ▶ 45:07

Elijah Cummings member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 55:28

“One of the five colonels was Eldon Cummings, a veteran of CIA covert operations in El Salvador, Operation Gladio. Two others were Colonel Rock Myers and Colonel James York. The SEAL was an equally imp…”

Tom Mix member_of GIMCO host_asserted ▶ 55:28

GIMCO did_business_with Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 55:59

“or Geo-Innerspace, depending on which title they wanted to use that day. They worked closely with Nippon Star on offshore recoveries of Japanese treasure hulks. That day, they were all heavily armed i…”

John Harrigan funded Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 58:06

“That was not a good idea. A lot of people in the Filipino government and the armed forces were offended by the Highlanders' attitudes of the people that were working with the Nippon Star Project. Mani…”

Unification Church funded Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 58:06

CIA funded Unification Church host_asserted ▶ 58:41

“This is the CIA being funded by the CIA being used by the CIA, right? Because the Moonies are a solely 100% CIA creation under the KCIA banner. Is that crazy?…”

General Senglum trafficked Philippines host_asserted ▶ 59:14

“When Nippon Star first set up in Manila, Singlib had bought weapons on the black market, including grenade launchers, for which he then was unable to get a license because they turned out to be stolen…”

General Senglum acquired Fabian Ver host_asserted ▶ 59:46

“If you're going to buy a gun on the black market, why the hell would you license the damn thing? He also bought a fleet of cars, which turned out all to be stolen too. They had belonged to Marco's sec…”

Charles McDougald studied_at Philippines host_asserted ▶ 1:07:47

“talking about Curtis, and had to undergo immediate surgery. When he came out of the anesthesia, he was kept on painkillers that made him groggy. One of the visitors to the hospital was a total strange…”

Charles McDougald did_business_with William J. Curtis host_asserted ▶ 1:08:20

“who was now Aquino's national security advisor. On repeated trips to the hospital, he told Curtis about various treasure sites. In his fuzzy state, Curtis began to think that McDougal might be a suita…”

Charles McDougald did_business_with Corazon Aquino host_asserted ▶ 1:08:49

“McDougal said that he broached the idea, who discussed it with the president, and she approved. They would go after Prince Chichibu, who had placed in the third basement of the fort at the bottom of o…”

Emil Wittenberg laundered_money_for Nippon Star Group host_asserted ▶ 1:12:05

“Probably the oil drum that Ben had talked about that was backfilled at the last minute. It could be worth millions. President Aquino was elated. Once again, however, there was mischief backstage. Fund…”

Emil Wittenberg did_business_with William J. Curtis host_asserted ▶ 1:12:35

“Soriano and McDougall both knew that Wordinger was feeding Wittenberg's drug money into this project all along, but nobody told Curtis. When Curtis protested, Wittenberg countered by offering to buy a…”

Emil Wittenberg did_business_with Charles McDougald host_asserted ▶ 1:12:35

Charles McDougald did_business_with Emil Wittenberg host_asserted ▶ 1:14:02

“he would be arrested and charges would be filed against him. Grimly, Curtis packed his bags and flew home. According to the grand jury testimony, the moment Curtis had gone, Soriano and McDougal took …”

Japan located_in Santiago host_asserted ▶ 1:14:58

“Subsequently, Golden Lily had dug a deep vault beneath one of the abutments, placing a 340 metric tons of 50 kilo gold bars inside safes and then put them in there. The cache was hidden with a slab re…”

Emil Wittenberg did_business_with Gregorio Soriano documented ▶ 1:15:27

“That always kept him from doing the site himself was the adjacent highway, which made it too conspicuous. Now that Aquino's administration was conveniently rerouting the highways, so Wittenberg, McDou…”

Emil Wittenberg did_business_with John McDougal documented ▶ 1:15:27

John McDougal did_business_with Gregorio Soriano documented ▶ 1:15:27

Gregorio Soriano arranged Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist documented ▶ 1:15:27

Craig Nelson financed_via Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist documented ▶ 1:15:52

“Work at the bridge proceeded quickly when Craig Nelson, a California investor, gave $100,000 to bring in a drill rig able to bore the six-feet diameter hole. By November, they were down 170 feet below…”

Emil Wittenberg carried_out_attack Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist guest_asserted ▶ 1:16:19

“Ernie Wittenberg told us that he went down the whole elevator. He saw and touched two of the eight safes that were visible and said they had a plan to bring in army trucks to haul the gold away. Soria…”

Army Green Berets operated_in Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist documented ▶ 1:16:48

“safes, Nelson said to McDougall, insisted that they had not reached the chamber concerning the safes. Realizing he was being lied to, Nelson returned to the site to see for himself and discovered that…”

John McDougal covered_up Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist documented ▶ 1:17:17

“friends of McDougal, one of them a full colonel, who reportedly took leave from active duty just to do this job. McDougal told all of those involved that water had flooded the hole, so they had to aba…”

Colonel Benson supplied_arms_to John McDougal documented ▶ 1:17:17

Gregorio Soriano laundered_money_for Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist documented ▶ 1:18:12

“in the adventure now turned on each other. Fundraiser George Wardinger told a federal grand jury in Nevada that a total of $1.5 million in drug money had been poured into the digs at the fort and the …”

Emil Wittenberg laundered_money_for Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist documented ▶ 1:18:12

John McDougal laundered_money_for Nugan Hand Bank Gold Heist documented ▶ 1:18:12

Corazon Aquino removed_from_power Gregorio Soriano documented ▶ 1:18:41

“he will be in a lot of trouble. It was drug money, Wordinger stated. I mean, if that broke in the press over there, we would have been crucified. Indeed, when Manila newspapers reported that some of W…”

Emil Wittenberg paid John McDougal documented ▶ 1:19:06

“Wardenker also testified that Wittenberg paid $50,000 of furniture to equip a new house McDougal purchased in Manila and helped to finance a new house McDougal bought in San Francisco. He said Wittenb…”

Emil Wittenberg paid Gregorio Soriano documented ▶ 1:19:06

Emil Wittenberg traded_network_to John McDougal documented ▶ 1:19:34

“He was persuaded instead to prepare a report on his partner. Thanks in part to his testimony, Wittenberg was tried and sentenced to life in prison for drug trafficking. Like Humphrey Bogart and his pa…”

Badlands Media mentioned Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:29:22

“is they mention Operation Gladio in it. And you know why they did that, in my opinion, is because we've been on Badlands Media talking about Operation Gladio. We've been on...…”

Catherine Austin Fitts relationship_with Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:31:27

“went on to other questions, I went and talked to her assistant in the back of the room. And I said, can you please tell me, does she know about Operation Gladio? And the woman's face was like, her jaw…”