OPERATION GLADIO Exposed by COLONEL TOWNER in The Empire on Which the Black Sun Never Set, Chapter 13

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0:29 Can everybody hear me this morning? My two early birds, always. Julie, silent weapon. Thank you for being here, loud and clear. Awesome. No, I have not went to the store to buy my earphones yet. I wish we had local stores. I can't go to Best Buy. I'm not going to Walmart either. Or Target. Our choices are getting slim here. I'm sorry. My ear collection. I put that crack in my ears. Oh my goodness.

1:26 All right. So I have to be honest with you. Chapter 13 is going to be a little tough to get through, but it's very important foundational information, which, of course, is the whole reason why I picked this book to begin with, because it traces back roots for why we're in this fight. I had no idea who James Burnham is. His last name spelled B-U-R-N-H-A-M.

1:59 Burnham. And the chapter starts off with the life of James Burnham from Trotskyism to Italian fascism to the father of neoconservatism. And I think the point I want to make in this is this chapter foundationally explains to you why it appears there's no difference between the neocons and the fascists.

2:29 Because literally there's not. So this goes back to the fundamental belief that there's a right and a left. And that cognizant, cognizant dissidence that is created by our thinking that they're on opposite ends doesn't allow us to put them in the same pot together. They very much belong in the same pot together because they are the same thing.

3:00 They are all fascist. They all want totalitarian type style governments, total government control, whether it's via oligarchs or corporatism or whatever. It doesn't matter. It just means we're slaves. That's what I think people have to get through their head. They want us enslaved and they're going to be in charge. And that's the bottom line. And I believe.

3:30 that it was on purpose, kind of that, the whole dynamic of opposing ends as if they're fighting each other when they're in bed together. And James Burnham is one of the clear examples of that, as you'll see as we go through this chapter. So he begins as a high-level Trotsky fanboy.

4:07 He never actually changes his beliefs. They're just molded into the appearance of Trotskyism. He transitions into the OSS and the CIA intelligence and then transitions into a neoconservative, all while fundamentally maintaining the same beliefs. And that's the key to this entire chapter. He worked.

4:38 While he was in the OSS slash CIA, in the Office of Policy Coordination, which is, if y'all remember, that's the people that are in charge of Gladio. That's the people that are in charge of the covert operations of the CIA. In particular, he worked in the psychological warfare branch, which tells you everything about what we're about to discover. He also worked in an...

5:06 an entity called Congress for Cultural Freedom, CCF. And that was a CIA front initiative to basically do propaganda. So his ideology and career are important, the author says, so that you can see that you can go from the corridors of British and American intelligence into

5:38 the neocon environment seamlessly. So he was born in 1905, and of course he was born in Chicago. He was raised Roman Catholic. He graduated from Princeton, and of course he went to Oxford. He went to one of the most prestigious colleges at Oxford called B-A-L-L-I-O-L. There,

6:13 he adopted a mentor who was a Jesuit by the name of Martin D'Arcy. Martin D'Arcy at the Jesuit house on Oxford Campion Hall, that Burnham would become an atheist and leave the Catholic church. Now let that set in for a second, because Jesuits are supposed to be a part of the Catholic church.

6:43 Burnham would remain close and well connected to a large number of Princeton and Oxford peers throughout his life. Because that is the one thing that provided kind of a grounding rod for him. And that, of course, then goes back to chapter one, when we realize that Oxford and that entire apparatus over in England was a creation of.

7:13 the Fabian Society, the Cecil Rhodes, and the fascists in general. So that becomes what they call the kindergarten. As I mentioned in the podcast I did with War Hamster yesterday, that kindergarten from Oxford, like Bill Clinton, is kind of the Manchurian candidate breeding ground.

7:44 He also is influenced by T.S. Eliot's writing and philosophy, a French writer, Charles Moras, which was a monarchist movement in the pro-Vichy government who collaborated with Nazis during the war. So again, we're getting this flavor of fascism running through this. And again, this guy, this T.S. Eliot,

8:15 is making the argument that you can be an atheist, but still believe that the Catholic Church is good for a fascist movement. And that goes back to the comment that we had in one of the previous books about the structure, the hierarchy, the dictatorship, if you will, of the Pope in the religious order. And I'm not saying he's a dictator. I'm saying that logic of...

8:43 The hierarchy discipline that is not necessarily found in other Christianity elements leads itself to people to house themselves in the Catholic Church that may in fact be atheist because it's the closest to a dictatorial type apparatus. This is their logic, not mine. I'm just explaining it.

9:11 While still at Oxford, Burnham has made plans to launch a literary philosophical journal called the Symposium. He did that with his former Princeton teacher, Philip Wheelwright. In 1929, after graduating, he joins Wheelwright on the staff of NYU. And so you need to get the picture of Burnham as this intellectually elite.

9:40 because it's going to matter when we go into some of the organizations he later joins. He stays here and as a professor and socializes with all of the elite people in New York, all while pretending to be this, as we'll see later, a completely different person.

10:05 It's just important to understand where his background is. And he, like everybody else, is a hypocrite. So he hangs around with the he meets a guy by the name of Sidney Hook, who will come up often, who becomes also a mentor. And Burnham then converts to Marxism. Sidney Hook, in turn, has been a mentor to a guy by the name of Morris Cohen at City.

10:36 and John Dewey, who was a student at Columbia. Cohen was an outright Marxist. Dewey would be a dabbler. And he acted as the Liberal Socialist League of Independent Political Action, otherwise known as the Dewey League. So you see the types of people that he begins in his early career associating with. So you have Cohen and Dewey as mentors.

11:09 they begin kind of developing this crew of like Trotsky, what the author refers to as rabid right-wing anti-communists, but they're left-wing anti-communists. They may not want to go that further step into communism, but they're definitely on the left wing. So he recruits new writers for the symposium and Burnham,

11:39 While he's not a professed Marxist, he's in that group. He published in the Symposium at a denouncement of Marxism as a dogmatic materialism, perhaps the most degrading ideology that has ever been imposed on a large section of mankind, which will be ironic in a few minutes. However, by 1932, Burnham did a complete about-face.

12:08 and published in the Symposium, a glowing review of Leon Trotsky's History of the Russian Revolution. His first review of a political book. And so he becomes basically a Trotskyite. He corresponds with Trotsky. And as we have learned, people who are on the...

12:39 Again, this just drives home, even the author, in my opinion, falls for this argument that he goes from a far right person to a far left. He didn't. He's working through incremental leftist changes. And we have to get that, and I'm sorry I harp on that a lot, but we have to get that picture in our head. Because if we don't start re-educating people into...

13:08 what's really happening and it because to me once you understand all of this is on the left the fact that somebody goes two inches to the left it's not a major about face they're just um moving within who they think ought to be at the top of the totalitarian um pyramid not whether or not there is a pyramid over here it's just incrementally moving over here so

13:40 The author goes on to say that it was through Max Eastman that a copy of the symposium actually reached Trotsky. Eastman, like Sidney Hook, had earned a Ph.D. in philosophy at Columbia University. I'm all for closing Columbia and Yale and Stanford, just for the record. Eastman and Hook would remain close to Dewey in 1922.

14:07 Max Eastman traveled to the Soviet Union and remained there for 21 months, becoming friends with Leon Trotsky until he was exiled to Mexico. Trotsky was. So, and here it says, the author, Eastman would do an about-face later in life and become a supporter of McCarthyism and a regular contributor to William Buckley's conservative Journal National Review, as would Burnham.

14:37 But again, I'm telling you, that is not an about faith. The National Review is a CIA operation. The William Buckley worked for the CIA, as will Burnham. So again, we're still down here on this. They believe in fascism. It's just who's going to be at the top. So Eastman becomes a member of the American Committee for Cultural Freedom, which is in.

15:08 which is a front company for the CIA, as would Burnham. They would join Mount Hellerin, P-E-L-E-R-I-N Society, in the 1950s. Sidney Hook would become an anti-communist and directly work for the CIA as part of the co-founding of the ACCF, the American branch of the Congress for Cultural Freedom. Burnham's review of Trotsky

15:37 He points out Trotsky's deliberate omissions of important information and misdating several significant quotations in order to strengthen the case he was building against Stalin. That part was, the author says, is likely the only honest part of the entire article where he is reviewing Trotsky's book. But that didn't put Trotsky off because he probably realized, I mean, he knew he was lying in this book. So he probably had.

16:08 more respect for Burnham as a result of him being able to see through the lies. In 1933, Burnham came close to joining the Communist Party, but he was put off by the, and I'm quoting the book, Negro question. He refused to accept the idea of self-determination for the Black Belt in the South, something he would uphold to his ultra-conservative

16:36 years at the national review and again that's not they're they're talking about i'm i'm just going to again emphasize this point ultra conservative is another way of saying far right there's nobody on the far right that's a racist i'm sorry there's not that's a fascist quality that is on the far left and this just aggravates me to death that people are not more

17:07 They don't push back on that narrative. Burnham claimed that by American adopting the Soviet initiative for self-determination for blacks in Russia, that this was proof of the American Communist Party subordination to the USSR. Self-determination for blacks in America was simply unacceptable. These people are fascist racists, and they are on the left, and they have never...

17:38 changed. Hook also decided that the Communist Party was insufficiently Marxist. You just can't make that crap up. So both him and Burnham break with the communist effort here in America because they're not Marxist enough. So there's a socialist organization named American Workers Party.

18:16 that Burnham wanted to create in 1933. This rebranded Marxism would become a mission for both Burnham and Hook. So they co-author a book, and Burnham starts writing for Partisan Review, and he starts making the argument for this more Marxist version of communism, I guess.

18:49 Part of the American Workers Party was a guy by the name of M-U-S-T-E, A.J. Mustie, a Dutch-born clergyman who at this point had lost his religion. Mustie became a member of the newly formed League of Independent Political Action, a group of liberals and socialists that was headed by John Dewey. They were modeled off of the Labor Party.

19:19 which was modeled off of the Fabian Society. You see how this all goes back to the foundation of fascism. Musty launched a new venture called the Congress for Progressive Labor Action. This was to unionize mass production workers and establish a political party akin to the British Labor Party. They were commonly known as the Muskyites.

19:50 must be publicly dropped out of the Dewey League. And this illustrates, as the author points out, this musical chairs of all of them just moving around and creating these organizations. The bottom line to it all is they're fascist. And they're trying to organize through these musical chairs of all of these different organizing.

20:21 something that grabs the American people in order for them to be able to manipulate them. And whichever one, they're not partial to any of them, whichever one does that the best is the one they're going to stick with. That's kind of my 30,000 foot view. Because we go through, and I'm going to try to just kind of skim over these, but I want you to understand the complexity of what they're doing and how it's manipulating people.

20:52 So we have the incomes and another radical party, the U.S. Socialist Party. They advocate for a full scale social revolution. And unlike the U.S. Communist Party, which was genuinely revolutionary, but obedient to Moscow, the U.S. Socialist Party was just total radicals.

21:28 Workers' Party was advocating an actual overthrow of the U.S. government. Burnham also criticized Soviet policy under Stalin of socialism in one country, quote-unquote, charging it with abandoning the principle of authoritarian internationalism and the goal of world revolution. So again, we're back to the whole fascist one-world order. That is...

21:57 something that stays consistent through Barnum's entire career. The idea of toppling the U.S. government was not a troubling thing to Burnham, but rather a thought he relished. So he believed that, this is ironic, because the author is pointing this out as a bad thing. She's saying that Burnham claimed that Roosevelt was working for big business, the banks, the rich, the munition makers.

22:32 that Burnham accused Roosevelt of arming for war to protect and increase capitalist profits and to win new opportunities for capitalism to maintain a capitalist dictatorship. But in my opinion, he was. And I believe that Antony Sutton proved that point. He grew up in the belly of New York City in the capitalist and the banking business. It's throughout his entire family, married into it.

23:02 Definitely, that accusation is a real thing. And you can see how if you're in a fascist dictatorship, one world order, that if you are perceived to embrace capitalism, even if it's a corrupt capitalism, it may be outside his venue of who he wants owning the big corporate entities.

23:30 If he is a fascist that wants those owned by the state, then he would be at odds with Roosevelt. Since Burnham himself was the splitting image of the rich class, he looked and talked and lived like Burnham's seven years as a Trotsky lieutenant before he renounced Marxism. Burnham never participated in the social aspect of his Trotskyist peers.

23:58 His social life remained entirely outside of the movement. He was an Ivy League Princeton with his friends and his social life. So there were times when people who were involved in this, in these organizations that he created, that would come to his house and he'd be in the middle of like a black tie dinner. And it was very off-putting to the people that were in these movements.

24:26 because they didn't feel like he had given up anything to be in the movement. And as another takeaway, I don't know, I don't remember if she gets into this specifically, but since this guy ends up in the CIA, to me, him moving around all of these different groups and creating these different groups is definitely a tactic that an intel asset would do in order to track these people. And that's going to...

24:56 That's going to be more evident as we get through this chapter. But it's another thing I think as we look and investigate people that we need to keep in mind. If they hop from one organization when you're doing your research and these organizations all appear to be somewhat radical, the very first thought you should have is their intel. Because that is how they gather information on like-minded people they can use later, potentially blackmail.

25:27 as well as opponents like in the media. So if I'm a member of the Communist Party and I get a lot of media reports that are negative for that association, I know who in the media is going to be an honest reporter. But if somebody, no matter where I go, reports positively on me, they are more than likely on my side because we've seen that happen.

25:54 with the war in Ukraine, which we're going to cover in the next chapter, when you have organizations like the Atlantic that up until 2016 told you everything negative about Ukraine, and then all of a sudden, because Ukraine's going to be front and center of an attack on Donald Trump, they immediately turn their, that there's nothing wrong with Ukraine at all, and it's all hunky-dory.

26:25 And then, of course, the war in Ukraine. Oh, my gosh, Ukraine's a democracy and it's under attack. Well, in 2015, you were not writing that it was a democracy. So when you but at that time, because they wanted to rationalize the intervention in it via the CIA and Gladio, they had to make the argument that it wasn't good or otherwise, why would we be intervening in it? And so when those stories like that change.

26:54 That media is part of the mockingbird media. So I'm trying to make sure everyone knows when you see that, don't think it's like, what happened? You know exactly what happened. It's an intel op. So later, Burnham would work for the Office of Policy Coordination under the directorship of Frank Wisner. And of course, Frank Wisner was the Wall Street lawyer,

27:26 He worked at the firm Carter, Linyard, and Milburn. And Alan Dulles, who worked for the law firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, which was the Wall Street's best law firm, Burnham would back Nelson Rockefeller's nomination for president and Ronald Reagan as his vice president and was pleased that Rockefeller got appointed as the vice president during the Ford administration.

27:55 You see that kind of conversion happening. These are people that are all of the same stripe. They're all fascist. So Burnham's career as an ardent anti-communist during the Cold War years, where the former communists went to work for Operation Gladio, it is strikingly how equally ardent Burnham was that America was not.

28:24 America not enter a war against the fascist in World War II, because he is a fascist. Burnham was a staunch pacifist up to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, where he did a complete about-face and called for full military escalation. But I would argue that's not inconsistent. Burnham would downplay or deny the threat of fascism that was coming into full swing in Europe and in Japan.

28:56 because he's not going to call attention to the strategy that he actually has adopted, which is fascism. Very same policy used by the British grand strategist Bertrand Russell, who was also an adamant pacifist during the war and went so far as to instruct the British people not to resist Hitler if he came into the country. These people are crazy. So Bertrand Russell wrote, quote,

29:28 Having remained a pacifist while the Germans were invading France and Belgium in 1914, I do not see why I should cease to be one if they do it again. You feel they ought to be stopped. I feel that if we set to work to stop them, we shall in the process become exactly like them and the world will have gained nothing, unquote. That's a perfect tone to strike if you're wanting new world order and one world government.

30:00 Burnham also used his lectures at NYU to stress that Bertrand Russell's Principia Mathematica was almost the most important book, if not the most important book, for you to read and to comprehend its philosophical lesson. Burnham would only talk about the dangers of fascism when it became clear in the war that Germany was about ready to lose.

30:32 which I would argue they didn't lose, they just changed strategies. This seeming ambivalence to fascism was made further transparent in Burnham's book called The Managerial Revolution, which had a very similar tone to Bertrand's The Scientific Outlook. Trotskyites called Stalin's war strategy the Popular Front, which meant as a jab for collaborating with non-

31:02 communist in a joint defense against fascism so you can see where they're going to come they would be in opposition to Stalin because they're going to work with the quote-unquote imperialist of the U.S. and Britain and he's not maintaining a pure approach to communists but the more important thing for these people

31:34 is he was actually fighting fascists, which they all are. So they come to the conclusion then, of course, that he needs to be overthrown as well. Bertram would increasingly move away from his support of a democratic structure. And he actually, in the managerial revolution, made it clear that he believed a brand of totalitarianism was needed. Again, fascism.

32:06 He also labeled, in my opinion, appropriately, that the New Deal was fascism without shirts. And I agree with that. So then he turns to basically infiltrating the Socialist Party and they come up with the American Committee for the Defense of Leon Trotsky, which was organized by Burnham and Hook and full of intellectuals. Basically, they have.

32:39 So they have a trial in Moscow that's going to convict Trotsky. So these intellectuals all have to get together and basically have a commission of inquiry that basically finds Trotsky didn't do anything wrong, which was just kind of a charade, if you will. So James Burnham, John Dewey, and Muskie get together and...

33:11 They sign a letter to the president of Mexico protesting the reign of terror Mexican communists were allegedly committing against the Trotskyites when Trotsky got sought refuge in Mexico. Whether the USSR was indeed a true workers' party state or had it become a fully bureaucratic state under Stalin, Trotsky maintained that USSR was indeed a true workers' state.

33:43 But Burnham had disagreed with him there and didn't believe that they were embracing the Socialist Worker Party agenda. So there were a few differences with Trotsky, as we noted earlier. Burnham would resign from the Socialist Workers Party in April of 1940 to form a new party called the Workers Party.

34:15 This was supposedly to preserve the pure Bolshevism purged of Trotsky's errors. Burnham worked six years for the Trotskyists. He renounced both Trotsky and the philosophy of Marxism altogether eventually. So the author says, first of all, since he was likely never a Marxist to begin with, and secondly, there was no reason for him renouncing Marxism from an objective standpoint.

34:50 It was about power and influence. And Burnham had reached his limit in his power and influence over the Trotsky adherents. His mission of infiltration had reached its end. Who was Burnham really working for and was Trotsky of any further use to these people? Because at that point, his usefulness was over. He's been expelled. Burnham was well aware of the walls closing in. It would be a matter of six months before Trotsky was assassinated.

35:21 So there's a lot of belief that the CIA was involved in that. And if that's true and Burnham is part of the CIA, then it would have been around the six month time frame that prior to the assassination that he would then want to disassociate himself. So to me, this whole thing just reeks of CIA. So we move on and.

35:51 He resigns from the Workers' Party as of May 21st, 1940, and he's quoted as saying, I reject, as you know, the philosophy of Marxism, dialectical materialism. He further quotes, not only do I believe it meaningless to say that socialism is inevitable and false that socialism is the only alternative to capitalism, I consider that on the basis of the evidence now available,

36:24 to us a new form of exploitive society which I call managerial society is not only possible but it is more probable outcome of the present than socialism so this is what he came up with in his materialism his managerial book managerial revolution is managerial society so again I'm going to point out

36:56 They're all on the left. It's just a matter of who's in the little triangle at the top. He's advocating almost like an oligarchy control structure, but it's still fascism. That's what his managerial revolution is all about. Here's a quote from the book. We cannot understand the revolution by restricting our analysis to the war, World War II. We must understand the war as a phase in the development of the revolution.

37:28 And honestly, I believe both of the world wars were orchestrated to get us into a perpetual war that gets us to the new world order. So he's basically saying that if socialism were possible, it would have occurred as an outcome of the Bolshevik revolution. But what happened instead was neither a reversion back to the capitalist system.

38:03 They didn't have a capitalist system, nor a transition to a socialist system, but rather a formation of a new organizational structure made up of the elite managerial class, the type of society he believed was in the process of replacing capitalism on a world scale. Well, they certainly was trying to make it happen. So in his book, he's advocating for an elite group of managers, planners, administrators, organizers, technicians,

38:35 who control industry, obeying the historical law that all social or economic groups of any size strive to improve their relative position with respect to power and privilege in society, and basically was replacing the dominant capitalist as the ruling class. Again, this goes by very different, several different names, oligarchs, the corporatism.

39:07 way over here, and it's just a different in degrees. So the author goes on and kind of outlines his philosophy in this managerial revolution, but then notes that it's very similar to Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and Bertrand's The Scientific Outlook. And it's like that because it is. They're creating a propaganda campaign with all of these books.

39:37 all advocating for the same resolution. We observe the transition from a feudal to a capitalist state being inevitable. So too will the transition from a capitalist to a managerial state occur. These are his words. Ownership rights of production capabilities will no longer be owned by individuals, but rather by the state or institution. And in honesty, the corporations has basically

40:09 facilitated that. He goes on to say, effective class domination and privilege does, it is true, require control over the instruments of production, but this need not be exercised through individual property rights because they're not about that. And we know that those are being eroded routinely. It can be done through what might be called corporate rights, which is happening. Possessed not by individuals as such,

40:42 but by institutions as such, as was the case conspicuously when many societies in which a priestly class was dominant. And that's their hat tip to the Catholic, where you had a lot of countries at some point that was actually ran by the Catholic church. So this says a whole lot. And I believe the whole giving corporate,

41:13 the ability to donate was a furtherance of this fascist agenda. But that's the reason why I advocate instead of torpedoing authors that you don't like, you need to read them. And you need to understand because right here, he let a big cat out of the bag. And while this guy is definitely not on my reading list,

41:43 This excerpt shows you how far down the pipeline we've gotten in their agenda, because their agenda was to make corporations basically with the same rights in our Constitution as individuals. And they absolutely are not individuals. It steals our rights as individuals when you transfer them to a corporation. But it is all a timeline to get us into the new world order and fascism.

42:13 And we need to understand that. I almost just said we're not going to go through this chapter, but there's some very key points in here that needs to be understood by all of us when we're doing investigations. He also says in his book, if in a managerial society, no individuals are to hold comparable property rights, how can any group of individuals constitute a ruling class? Because he does not want individuals.

42:45 The managers will exercise their control over the instruments of production and gain preference in the distribution of products. Through their control of the state, which in turn will own and control the instruments of production, the state, that is, the institutions which comprise the state, will, if we wish to put it that way, be the property of the managers. And that will be quite enough to place them in the position of the ruling class. You see?

43:15 that's how they're going to do it that's called fascism so and that's how they will end up in the ruling class that's their supposition so he goes on to explain support of the masses is necessary for the success of any revolution and that is why masses must be led to believe that they will benefit from such a revolution that's why you have to have propaganda only to replace one ruling class with another and nothing changes

43:51 for the underdog. That's the reality, but you can't let them know that. He explains that this is the case with the dream of a socialist state, that the universal equality promised by socialism is just a fairy tale. It's a fairy tale for all of it. Burnham makes the case that this is what happens in both Nazi Germany and Bolshevik Russia. Quote, nevertheless, it may still turn out that the new form of economy will be called socialist.

44:24 In those countries, Russia and Germany, which have advanced further towards the new managerial economy, socialism or national socialism is the term ordinarily used. The motivation for this terminology is not naturally the wish for scientific clarity, but just the opposite. The word socialism is used for ideological purposes in order to manipulate the favorable mass emotion.

44:52 attached to the historic socialist ideal of free, classless, and international society, and to hide the fact that the managerial economy is in actuality the basis for a new kind of exploiting class society. Those are his words, okay? So they're telling you they're trading one evil for another. They just don't want you to know about it.

45:24 Burnham also writes totalitarian dictatorships. What distinguishes totalitarian dictatorships is the number of facets of life subject to of your life that's subject to the impact of the dictatorial rule. It is not merely political action in the narrower sense that is involved, that are involved. Nearly every side of life, business, art, science, education, religion.

45:53 recreation and morality are not merely influenced but directly subjected to a totalitarian regime so again they're telling you in the words that we're all on the left but people still don't they still call fascism a far-right ideal it just blows my mind okay so he also points out that

46:27 The Russian Revolution, World War I, and its aftermath gave final proof that capitalist world politics could no longer work and had come to an end. World War I, as the last war of the capitalists in World War II, was the first, but not the last, of the managerial societies. And again, I believe that. I don't believe the part where it says the capitalists was the end of World War II or I.

46:57 I mean, I understand what he's saying. He's saying they're buried. We buried the idea that we're ever going to have capitalist societies in World War I. And World War II was the first revolutionary war in the future New World Order to bring about a managerial society or a fascist society. And I do believe that that's exactly what happened. And I believe we're still fighting World War II today.

47:26 I don't believe it's ever been won. And I think the Operation Gladio is the militaristic aspect of that ran out of NATO. Because if you want to be real, and I've probably said this before, NATO, if it was formed as a defensive alliance only, would have disbanded in 1991, period.

47:58 There's no other conversation. There was no longer a need to have a defensive alliance against an enemy that ceased to exist. And that's why, in 1991, George Bush Sr. went into Iraq to create the new enemy. They justified the extension of NATO by creating a new enemy.

48:37 That is because NATO was never set up to be a defensive alliance. NATO was set up to be the offensive war effort to bring about the new world order. And I think we need to start saying that more often. And I think that's the rationale for saying it. There's no coincidence that the Soviet Union collapses in 1991, which Intel knew it was going to.

49:08 happened around mid-1990, and they were seeing all the signs that that was going to be the case. So you have a plan to develop your next enemy to justify the continued need, if you will, for NATO. Because at this point, with the Gladio units, you've invested so much of your blood and treasure from the black market.

49:37 into creating this terrorist capability, you're not going to let go of it. You rule the world. You can make any country do whatever you want. You've trained the assassins. You've equipped the assassins. So why would you stop? They're going to have to be stopped. And it's funny because this comes up often in the discussion of Gladio when I have them offline. I honestly believe when you talk about Trump's world tour.

50:12 There's a lot of correlation between Gladio and where he went, once you understand what Gladio is all about. Okay, so Burnham also is on record as supporting Trotsky's permanent revolution, which is how the forever war concept. Burnham, in his...

50:42 book says managerial revolutions is not a prediction of something that will occur in the future but rather it's something that has already begun and it's happening and he believes that the battle is actually essentially over it's just a matter of transitioning to the final state he notes that the western hemisphere will be governed by the united states and see here's interesting because this ties into that sixth segment of the fabian society and the round table

51:11 of having the Pan-America, Pan-British, Pan-Europe. So he's writing that the Western Hemisphere will be governed by the United States, who will act as a receiver for the bankrupt British Empire. Russell suggests the future of the U.S. would become as imperialistic as Britain had been. Burnham creepily, the author says,

51:44 writes that many people would view the coming age as tragic, but they'd be wrong. For while the future would differ greatly from the past if we choose to accept it, and most will accept it whether or not they choose, there will be some satisfaction in accepting it as a reality as opposed to living in an illusion.

52:11 The illusion was created by the people who want you to accept this as the reality. So either way, he's acknowledging in that area that we've been manipulated. What a different tone when discussing surrendering to German fascism, which, of course, as I've said, is what they're basically trying to bring about. So the author talks a lot about the Machiavellian.

52:41 And she there's a whole section that dedicated to the Machiavellians, Burnhams, fascist Italian defenders of freedom. I'm not going to go into a lot of this because I think we've made the point that this guy 100 percent is an advocate of fascism. So I do want to hit on the point.

53:13 that Burnham's remarks in 1972 that no one had influenced him significantly since the Machiavellians was not entirely true. There's a British historian by the name of Arnold Toynbee, T-O-Y-N-B-E-E, and geopolitical analyst Halford McKinder, M-A-C-K-I-N-D-E-R.

53:43 who during the years of the war had seized the attention in places like the Institute for Advanced Studies at Princeton and Yale's Institute for International Studies. So they did some writing and Toybee outlined the progression of 21 civilizations, which at various points along their trajectories had all suffered periods of breakdown.

54:10 The civilization in question regained stability through an intervention of geographically peripheral and culturally primitive powers that had restored order in the imposing, quote unquote, universal state. So these people, again, are all gravitating through. And it says that Mackinder's 1919 answer to the threat of the heartland base advisory.

54:39 had been a counterweight to the guise of the British Empire remodeled into a world league of democracies called the League of Nations. In 1940, he came to envision the North Atlantic countries as the basis for a democratic league since the United Nations had formed around the principles of the League of Nations. So they're viewing, which is what we've always suspected, that the League of Nations and the UN are part of the...

55:09 ever-present march towards fascism. And in 1947, Vernon published a paper that the first section of a book that he had written on Soviet ambitions, he called The Struggle for the World. And it says the Truman Doctrine had been announced in March 47 in response to a request for aid for Greece, which...

55:42 Britain had claimed had fallen into a communist triggered civil war, which was not at all true. And we went over that. And I even wrote that paper on my sub stack about the whole BS story that was told about what was happening in Greece because it was all done at the hands of Britain and Operation Gladio. So it must be part of the Truman Doctrine. It must be the policy of the U.S. to support free people who are resisting.

56:12 subjugation of armed minorities or by outside pressures because they claim it was Soviets intervention in Greece that they were actually fighting against. And the Truman Doctrine, we may recall that immediately after, literally immediately after World War II ended, the Truman Doctrine was established and we sent troops to Greece.

56:42 And that began the forever ending, never ending war. And Britain is the one that set that up. They did a head fake in Greece. And I'll just say what the author says here, because there's a what is presented in the book is the the lie. And then I'm going to present to you the truth.

57:13 It is interesting that Burnham says that the details are not necessary except for future scholars relating to the civil war that happened in Greece. Well, the details today are known and the true story behind the so-called Greek civil war would not be further than what the British Empire, American intel, and Burnham were claiming. Chapter 6 in this book, we talked about it. British soldiers who in fact turned

57:43 on the organization that was resisting the fascists in Greece while they were fighting the Nazis on the orders of Churchill, that organization had successfully already defeated the Italian fascist forces. And when Germany came in, they were able to conquer Greece because Churchill had pulled support from them.

58:15 Churchill was fearful that this organization was going to beat the Nazis. And the greater majority of the Greek people supported the political group that opposed Nazism, which we've already established Churchill was a fascist. So he pulled the support from this resistance group and allowed them to be conquered by Germany. Those are facts. They did it.

58:47 by saying that this nationalist group was pro-communist. But it was not. It was pro-nationalist. Greek wants to be its own country. But Churchill wanted the monarchy reinstalled because he was a fascist and he supported fascism. So Britain, who was having a hard time containing the Greeks, because they're a hell of a fighter,

59:22 called for American backup. The Americans did not fight man-to-man, but waged chemical warfare on the Greek people, and we did that. That's not even up for debate. As they're defending their country against fascism, we dropped chemical weapons in Greece. They finally succumbed. Greece became a gladiocenter of terror, and they did, both in Greece and Cyprus.

59:53 It was not a Greek civil war, but a cowardly attack on an independent and freedom of the Greek people by a pro-fascist Anglo-American force. And that is absolutely true. So you can understand why Burnham says that the details are unimportant. And anytime somebody tells you that, you know, especially somebody that we know as part of the CIA, that the details are very important because they don't.

1:00:24 coincide with whatever their agenda is. The American people had been lied to, just like they're lied to today, to justify the unjustifiable, unleashing an offensive chemical warfare. In the name of security and peace, the Monroe Doctrine opened the door for a 75-year war on terror where we were not the good guys.

1:00:51 It gave, for the first time ever in American history, the so-called right to militarily intervene and wage clandestine warfare in any country it selected. The details are never important until long after the damage is done. We should know by now that the unilateral acts of carnage on innocent people have never been justifiable. We are not the bringers of freedom. We are adding in...

1:01:21 aiding in destroying freedom. And let me just say this, in 1947 is when this happened. Well, you can imagine, because we already have stay-behind units, right? And Germany was in Greece. So they've already set up the apparatus of all of the terror that would be unleashed in Greece in the next 20, 30, 40 years.

1:01:50 That was done, Operation Gladio, as a result of this. We did everything we could to include chemical weapons to break the will of the people in Greece so that we could impose a structure. That happened at exactly the same time we were setting up NATO. Do you understand why NATO's there? NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO is there as a militant arm of the New World Order.

1:02:24 So Burnham used a OSS fluff piece called The Struggle for the World to call for, just as Bertrand Russell had, a preemptive strike against Russia, Soviet Union, while America still enjoyed the sole monopoly over nuclear bombs. So again, just with that one statement, that is not a far right idea. That...

1:02:55 It's a far left idea, implementing one world government, of which the U.S. military and the U.S. government was going to be the militant arm of the new world government. So just like that, this guy went from a Marxist, far left, to a neocon, war hawk, to implement fascism, far left. Tiny, tiny jump, not a spectrum jump. So he goes on to say,

1:03:37 And I mean, almost in an intimidating way that America, quote, world dominating. That's what we needed to be, world dominating. And that he questions at the end of this propaganda article that he wrote for the CIA, OSS at the time, would America have the will to power? You know?

1:04:11 Just like the whole thing about questioning our patriotism whenever we go against support for Israel or Ukraine or whatever. Like they're trying to bully us into accepting their fascist New World Order militancy of America. However, if the Soviets were to be bombed, that would not be the end.

1:04:40 a thesis that the U.S. would have to make victory not peace its supreme aim. It must disregard such principles as the equality of nations and non-interference into the internal affairs of other countries. Burnham stated that the U.S. must let the world know that it would bestow its favors exclusively on its friends and make clear that it would be willing to use force to uphold its interests, which is exactly what we've done.

1:05:09 Under the CIA, above all, the new America would have to assume a task of defending the world's islands, coastlands, and Japan to prevent the Soviets from mastering the whole of Eurasia. The new global empire could then bend its efforts towards overthrowing communist rule in countries outside the Soviet border. So, again, we're going to use the Soviets as the boogeyman.

1:05:39 which these same people created long ago. And we're going to do it to usher in a new world order, all under the dominance of U.S. military might. So we can't do it from a defensive standpoint. We have to have an American empire with this decisive world control. So he's advocating the formation by the United States, Britain, and the Britain dominions of a full-fledged political union.

1:06:14 complete common citizenship, Burnham noted that this union would not be easy and that the forceps might have to be used to achieve its birth. In other words, violence. And this goes back to the New World Order. Whether they, in America, say it's going to be America that's going to lead this merging, we already know, we've already discovered enough information to know that Britain has recaptured America through the

1:06:46 Royal Institute of International Affairs, the British Roundtable, they've co-opted everything. And I would argue this may be a fluff piece for the CIA kind of setting the seed for our acceptance of that fact, but it happened already. And then he goes on to talk a little bit about a European Federation that would then come about as well, which of course we've seen.

1:07:19 That's the pan-Europe. We've got the pan-America through NAFTA and other agreements. After this consolidation of Europe, Burnham predicted that the next phase would be an alliance of the Anglo-American Combine and the European Federation. Again, universal state. We are willing to use barbarianism, violence, to unify.

1:07:51 and create a new world order those are my words cia psychological warfare division gladio meets the congress for cultural freedom so she goes back in time again um 1948 joseph fire brian the third a former classmate of burnham's joined the cia where he headed the psychological and political warfare divisions of the office of policy coordination

1:08:23 where many of the agency's recruits of the ex-Nazis were located, which is very important. Again, that blending of fascism. George Kennan, State Department policy planning staff, was a key figure behind the OPC's creation, which we know because Frank Wisner worked for Kennan over in the State Department prior to the CIA being set up.

1:08:50 and moved over to lead that branch once it was set up. And during World War II, Burnham would leave his teaching post at NYU to work for the OSS in 1944. Carried on the work of the CIA when the OSS was disbanded, Joseph Bryan III offered Burnham a consultantship with OPC in 1949. Burnham worked.

1:09:23 for the OPC unit, which included the notorious E. Howard Hunt. Weird how that guy's name keeps coming up. The campaigns to harass communist governments, such as a Ukraine ban that until the early 1950s waged guerrilla war on the Soviet rule, basically a stay-behind unit from World War II, and destabilizing the

1:09:53 puppet regimes of the Soviet Union. Burnham's work was on propaganda, creating an image of the Soviets' threat for the public. So his instructions was, should not be called, the Soviet subordinate countries should not be called satellites, but they should be called colonies because we have been already programmed to reject the colonies.

1:10:23 because of the aversion to racism and imperialism and blah blah blah and the violence that colonies so they're psychologically manipulating you based on terminology propaganda by bribery and disinformation should be employed to encourage factionalism defections and transfer of allegiance to the united states within the soviet colonies or satellites um also they wanted to incite

1:10:54 revolts among Soviet labor camps. So he meets up with a former NYU colleague, and he had served as a liaison between the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America and the Republican Committee. So they wanted to formulate a rollback policy towards Eastern Europe as a GOP's answer to the Democrats' policy of containment. Interestingly enough, this guy he starts working with,

1:11:32 Dobriansky, D-O-B-R-I-A-N-S-K-Y, has a student, and the student is Katrina Uchenko. Uchenko is the guy that eventually goes on to be the Stooge president, the Western puppet, after...

1:11:58 The Ukrainian Revolution, the first one they had, not the 2014 one. So I believe that's correct. But this guy is not the good guy. This is the guy that they basically set up. What's interesting, though, is this person, she goes on to marry Yushchenko, but she's a student of these people.

1:12:33 In this whole fascism thing. And you wonder why there's fascist neo-Nazi units in Ukraine? This is why. These people are all in bed together. But what's really interesting is she got hired to work in our State Department. She was a State Department member of the Human Rights. She worked in the White House under Ronald Reagan. She worked in the U.S. Treasury.

1:13:01 under George H.W. Bush. And she actually was accused of being a CIA asset internal to Ukraine, just FYI. I read an article about that when I was researching her last night. So I just find that fascinating that you have these people that you can draw ties to and they all end up

1:13:34 being exactly who we think they are. Okay, so Dobriensky was the chairman of the National Captive Nations Committee, whose local committees often allied with the Bandera wing of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, the neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Burnham did a lot of work with the Ukrainian refugees in particular.

1:14:08 Burnham's enthusiasm for the political war brought him close ties to foreign, quote unquote, anti-communist. He opened his house and it became known as a Mecca for Iron Curtain refugees. Burnham single most because, again, he's a spy. He's working for the CIA and he's inviting all of these neo-Nazis that come to America in.

1:14:35 And he's gleaning intel for the use of the CIA because these neo-Nazis are staying behind Gladio units. Full circle. Burnham's single most important office of policy coordination effort was to create the Congress for Cultural Freedom, CCF, a body intended to counter Soviet propaganda among intellectuals and cultural influencers by highlighting the contrast between communists.

1:15:08 repression. You gotta love this. Western freedom. The freedom they're trying to destroy. So the Congress for Cultural Freedom is basically a CIA front. And he, Burnham joined in preparation for the conference as an agent of the OPC, which now became the major force behind the Congress for

1:15:38 Cultural Freedom, and the American Committee for Cultural Freedom. There's two of them. There's CCF and ACCF, because you can't have enough CIA front companies. So two journalists write in the final stage of the Machiavellian elite's takeover of America, quote, the Congress for Cultural Freedom's 14-point freedom manifesto, because, you know, freedom has to have a manifesto, was to identify the West with freedom.

1:16:07 And since everything about the West is said to be free, free, free, then it went without saying that everything about the Soviet Union wasn't. Organized by Burnham and Hooke, the American delegation represented a who's who of America's post-war intellectuals. Tickets to Berlin were paid for by Weisner's office, that means you and me, of policy coordination through a front organization and the State Department.

1:16:35 which helped arrange travel expenses and publicity. According to a CIA historian, Mark Warner, the conference sponsors considered it money well spent, with one Defense Department representative calling it unconventional warfare at its best. And that's exactly what it is. But so is Gladio. British delegation found the rhetoric coming out of the Congress.

1:17:07 to be a deeply troubling sign of what was to come. So it talks about a speech given by a Franz Birkenau, which was very violent and indeed almost hysterical. And also quoted, it was the greatest shock to me. There was a moment when the Congress, that I felt we were being invited to summon up Biesel Bob in order to defeat, I guess that's a spirit, to defeat Stalin.

1:17:43 Burnham would become head of the Psychological Strategy Board, Division of the Office of Policy Coordination. In a PSB that was created May 5th, 1953, it laid out the strategy for how free intellectuals, free intellectuals would be manipulated against their own interests to facilitate a CIA-dictated transformation of Western culture. In fact, Francis Stoner...

1:18:18 saunders makes the point in the cultural cold war it was likely burnham himself who had drafted the psb and it's the fitzgerald and gold is quoted as saying it foretells of a long-term intellectual movement to break down worldwide doctrinaire thought patterns while creating confusion doubt and loss of confidence in order to weaken objectively

1:18:47 the intellectual appeal of neutralism and to predispose its adherence towards the spirit of the West. The goal was to predispose local elites to the philosophy held by its planners while employing local elites to help to disguise the American origin of the effort. So it appears to be a native development. So basically it's a science fifth generation warfare, and it's been used for a long time. So.

1:19:23 Also, she quotes the same people, Fitzgerald and Gould, as writing that this PSB is as totalitarian as you can get. And it is. They've never been about freedom. Freedom has been a myth that we think actually exists when it doesn't. Burnham writes in his Managerial Revolution, quote, most of these intellectuals are not in the least aware that the net social effect of the ideologies which

1:19:56 they elaborate, contributes to the power and privilege of the managers and to the building of a new structure of class, rule, and society. As in the past, the intellectuals believe that they are speaking in the name of truth and in the interest of all humanity. Indeed, the intellectual, without usually being aware of it, elaborate new ideologies from the point of view of the position of the managers. So basically, he's saying that they brainwashed these people.

1:20:25 normally through college, to espouse the ideas of a fascist new world order and that they go through life espousing those without ever realizing they're doing it. So he eventually resigns from the CCF after just a few years having failed, failed in his intellectually grandiose endeavors to affect the highbrow cultural of arts with a more permanent.

1:20:56 domain of diehard warmongering and would come to be known in many circles as the father of neoconservatism. So we get to the part here where he links up with William F. Buckley. And it says William F. Buckley graduated in 1950, which coincided with the next endeavor after our intervention in Greece, which is the Korean War.

1:21:28 Because we go from one to the other. Buckley, who had served in World War II, was not eager to return to the field of war. And there's also another guy by the name of Will Moore Kendall, who taught Buckley at Yale. And he recommends, the Kendall guy does, who had CIA connections, I'd argue everybody at Yale does, that he suggests to Buckley that he join the Office of Policy.

1:22:00 under Wisner. So Buckley becomes part of the CIA. He was stationed in Mexico City with none other than E. Howard Hunt. That guy's name comes up every single time. So supposedly he didn't like the work down there, but maintained lifelong ties to E. Howard Hunt because as we learned in another book,

1:22:30 He became the godfather to Hunt's first three children. That's how close they were. So I would make the supposition that Buckley never actually left the CIA. He just went undercover. So as we know, he launched in 1955, as a very young person, the ultra-conservative, i.e. far-right, National Review, which is not far-right. It advocates for...

1:23:02 neo-con ideas, all of which could be lined up under fascism. So he employs Burnham and several of his peers. Priscilla Buckley, William's sister, was the managing editor of the National Review and had also worked for the CIA in the 1950s. It's a family affair. Burnham's National Review commentary reiterated his struggle for the world thesis that

1:23:38 It would fail if it did not rest on the absolute will to power, i.e. crush everybody with military might. In a crisis, the U.S. must be prepared to use force, even in violation of the sovereignty of other nations. This is what he's advocating. And of course, we have Gladio to create the crisis, so no problem. At the time, Burnham was furious over Iceland's newly elected government refusing to continue hosting a NATO base.

1:24:07 Imagine that, wanting to throw NATO out. I can't even imagine it. Thus, Burnham argued, if the U.N. could not be made to accommodate U.S. needs, the U.S. would have no reason to stay in U.N., perhaps even to sabotage it. In other words, my way or the highway. When it came to black civil rights, Burnham and most of his National Review colleagues sided with the segregationists.

1:24:34 They put in a 1957 editorial on Black voting rights. Southern whites were entitled to take the steps they deemed necessary to prevail politically and culturally in places where they lacked a majority since, quote, for the time being, unquote, they were the, quote, advanced race, unquote.

1:25:06 apartheid. They are 100% fascist apartheid idiots. I wonder if they thought lynchings would be part of the appropriate steps necessary. Burnham complained the state had been over backwards to be sensitive to world opinion and pay less attention to the interest of its citizens than to the sensibilities of people like Fidel Castro, Patrice Lombamba.

1:25:38 Sounds very familiar to the thoughts of Alan Dulles, which it does exactly. So Burnham also wrote Suicide of the West in 1964. He began seeing the American people as part of the problem. Well, no shit, Sherlock. When we don't want to go along with your barbarianism, we're part of the problem. Just like on January 6th, we became part of the problem. Whether most Americans were, this is a quote.

1:26:09 Whether most Americans were liberals was hard to gauge. What did seem clear was that liberalism, broadly defined, had now solidly entrenched itself as the standard American public doctrine, and this did not bode well for the future. For one thing, liberalism replaced reality with dreams portraying human nature as a reassuringly rosy light and looking forward to a future of infinite progress.

1:26:38 Yet a wealth of historical evidence contradicted this outlook, including theirs. While geneticists agreed that in modern society, those segments of the population with inferior genetic assets, inferior that is from an intellectual, moral, and civilizing standpoint, were increasing rather rapidly relative to those with superior assets, unquote.

1:27:08 so let's just take this for just a second understand that when they're talking about liberalism they're talking about not liberals but the philosophical liberal line of thinking and since this was dated in 1964 you can obviously see the correlation to his attack on liberalism which is the um

1:27:39 The positive of what's good in America, that has to be destroyed. Because there's a bunch of you that are genetically inferior, according to this guy. And we can't have y'all going around thinking you're equals. So we're going to have to destroy that. And I would argue that 1964 is about the time when this fascist movement began taking over the Democrat.

1:28:09 liberal party and destroying it. And this guy, the National Review was a front media company for the CIA. This guy is still being paid as a CIA asset. And he is telling you right here that it is the opinion of those he worked for that the blacks are inferior and that all of you out there with that sunny disposition of thinking America is great.

1:28:41 We're going to destroy it. Burnham, in his writings for the National Review, pushed the U.S., pushed that the U.S. had to pay more attention to alternative weapons. And he's just the guy for the CIA, isn't he? He advocates crowd manipulation, guerrillas, psychological warfare, paramilitary operations, subversions, bribery, infiltration.

1:29:12 with specialized mobile ranger type units. Oh my God, that sounds like Gladio and political warfare. So he tells you right there in National Review that they're going to be doing January 6th operations. They are going to be doing the psychological operations like MKUltra. He's telling you right there in black and white. That's what they're going to be doing.

1:29:52 He also says that we should be involved in agitation, propaganda, subversion, economic manipulation, incitements of riots, terror, diversionary diplomacy, sabotage, guerrilla, paramilitary actions. Operation Gladio. Okay, that's all I'm saying. Such campaigns are not aimed at the bad guys for our protection. This is what the author is saying. They can there.

1:30:28 How can there be such a thing as good guys and bad guys when there's no such thing as morality, truth, or an idea or a universal idea of what's best for the world? It is just about the usurping of power and whoever gets in the way of this conquest by the elite is fair game, including Western citizens, even the American president, as we found out with JFK.

1:30:59 They will take you out if you get in the way. And he just orchestrated or illustrated several of the ways in which they planned to do that and did it since the 1940s with Operation Gladio. She provided another quote. I'm going to go ahead and skip that part. Burnham goes on to discuss in the managerial revolution, the need to change the, this is very important, guys. He advocated.

1:31:30 The need to change the meaning of words. He uses the example of destiny, the future, and sacrifice, and power from the old ideology of capitalism to suit our new ideologies of managerialism. This is a quote. The new world political system based on a small number of super states will still leave problems.

1:31:59 more perhaps than a unified single world state, but it will be enough of a solution, quote unquote, for society to keep going. Nor is there any sufficient reason to believe that these problems of the managerial world system, including the managerial wars, will destroy civilization. It is almost inconceivable even that it would mean

1:32:27 what it could mean for civilization to be literally destroyed. Once again, what is being destroyed is our civilization, not civilization, unquote. So he's advocating that we destroy America, but not civilization at all. So that's a lot.

1:32:58 That was a huge chapter. You understand why? I know it was kind of nitty gritty, but you can't. This is the foundation back in the mid 1900s of everything that we're facing today. You can't skip that. Changing of words. What did we just do? We changed the definition of a vaccine. They will literally do anything to destroy America and create a new world order.

1:33:29 And it is, pardon my French, asswipes like this guy right here that created the foundation inside of the CIA to do it. America and the world has been so psyopsed that it's not even funny. So change the definition of what a woman is. That's exactly right. And they know by doing that that they are.

1:33:58 Let me just give you an analogy since I'm a real estate investor and we've done some crazy things with houses. When you disrupt the foundation of a house, you destroy the integrity of the house. If I can disrupt the integrity of a belief system, whether it's religious, whether it's science.

1:34:29 whatever. I can destroy whatever is above it because it's the basis for it. They are destroying science. They destroyed science with COVID. The whole CO2. Plants have to have CO2 to survive. They're telling us CO2 is bad. You limit CO2, you limit human life. They are destroying the basis for

1:35:00 humanity, and trying in doing so to destroy everything above it so that they can rebuild it on their own foundation, which is fascism and world control dominated by Satan. There's no other way to say it. That's the agenda. You cannot let them take our language.

1:35:29 That's why I've seen people post who I absolutely love. When someone tells you, I don't use for the word transgender, they're transvestites. They always have been. That's what the word was. I'm not going with your new word. I don't care. I don't agree with any of the word changing, as people refer to it.

1:35:56 clot shot is not a vaccine. I will not call it a vaccine. I'm not complying with their word changes. And I believe that that is, they've done some type of scientific research that by changing words like that, that they can actually change society. We have to refuse to participate. So let me go back and see what else we got.

1:36:26 Yes, I agree with you, Julie. The change to definition creates the mental and emotional distress and confusion. And anytime you introduce that, you can then be brainwashed. What else we got? Still an analogy. Both belonging to the same bird. You're absolutely right, Lucy. But I don't even want to give them the left and right wing of the same bird. I want to push them all.

1:37:00 to the left and leave them there. He ended with how we can no longer be the police of the world. He was talking about, I believe that there has been several inferences. The one that I found the most illustrative of Trump's speeches is the one he gave in Poland and kind of apropos since.

1:37:28 It was Operation Gladio in both Poland and Ukraine of because their borders kind of flux during World War Two. The complete annihilation of the Jewish population by the residents of both Poland and Ukraine was by stay behind units. Gladio units was an atrocity. And you can.

1:37:57 He actually talks about the terror network and how Russia is not the problem in that speech. And I very much agree with that. And I think at some point it would be very beneficial. I'm not going to have the time anytime soon to go back through written, not the verbal part, but the written speeches of Trump and try to discern some of the.

1:38:27 implications. And I'm talking from early on in his presidency to that he gave in foreign countries to see what that message is, because you have to understand him even hinting at Operation Gladio in the United States, other than kind of throwing somebody a bone that may know about it would mean nothing. Everybody all over the world is very familiar with Operation Gladio.

1:38:57 The only people that still stuck in the 1940s on this idea is us. You can find foreign articles written about Operation Gladio, either using stay behind unit or strategy of tension, years of lead in Italy. And I am working on that. I want a chart that has the countries and what the labels of the units that were involved in Operation Gladio.

1:39:27 as their secret societies or their internal government apparatuses that implemented it for us to have to pin somewhere so that anytime that we're researching something, we have that. And when that name comes up, we immediately know that it's an Operation Gladio event. I think that would be tremendously helpful when we're looking at researching. Yeah, so the doublespeak thing is absolutely true.

1:39:57 At the end of this book, there's The City on a Hill by JFK. When we get to that part, probably in our next podcast, because the next chapter is our last chapter, I will highlight a couple of pieces of that because I do think there was a lot of, while he may not have known about Operation Gladio by name, I do think there's a lot of inferences that make me think that he knew.

1:40:24 Um, his reference to the secret societies and all of that other stuff. I just, I don't know that he knew how bad it was or, um, how him being assassinated. Um, to me, that was a failure. And I hate to say this because I mean, he's obviously one of my big heroes. Um, I think that was a failure of his own because obviously, um, Charles de Gaulle, they tried to kill him over 20 times.

1:40:56 And his as well as Trump's ability to isolate or insulate himself from what you had to know was going to happen. Kind of is just a big question mark for me. No, I don't believe he's still alive, but I it's a big question mark on how that occurred. Where was and we know that Johnson was in on it. Is that where the.

1:41:27 infiltration occurred um but there was a failure there somewhere um or he he would have lived because there as with that operation gladio there were a few not a whole lot of them a few that despite the amount of assassination attempts they they um tried they were unsuccessful so um we'll never know it's one of those question marks we will never know

1:41:58 So anyway, I'm going to get busy preparing for the last one. It will be most likely on Sunday. I'll try to get a time out today that we can wrap this book up on Sunday with the last chapter. And just as a heads up, it's about Ukraine and it's going to blow your socks off. I wrote about Ukraine and I focused specific on something that I knew a little bit about, which was the right sector.

1:42:28 Um, Azov is the one that gets all of the headlines, but right sector is equally evil as far as, um, what I'm now going to be labeling as a stay behind unit, because that's definitely what they are. Um, but they've been commonly referred to as the neo-Nazis. They're not neo-Nazis, they're Nazis. And they are, they are part of the Gladio unit. So, um,

1:42:55 That's kind of how we're going to close it out because I think what she did in a very expert way is took all of these chapters and prepared a very historical foundation for why we ended up with Gladio Units, documented that 100% they're fascist all along the way and all of the people that had contributing narratives to it. And then she uses the very last chapter to give you a real world.

1:43:26 application of that. So this one's going to be a buckle up one because I will bring in my knowledge from Ukraine. A friend of mine spent years in Ukraine after he retired. He was a military intelligence guy. He worked for a defense contractor. I'm not going to say which one.

1:43:52 And a lot of expertise in that area. And anyway, just it's going to be very insightful. So I will get you a time for that podcast out shortly. Thank you for being here. Appreciate y'all. Please like, give us a thumbs up and share this as much as you can so that we can get more people talking about Operation Gladio.

1:44:22 And I hope y'all enjoyed the interview that we did with Warhamster. Hopefully he shares that with all of his audience and we can just get more eyes on this. I really appreciate it. Thanks.

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James Burnham worked_for CIA book_quoted ▶ 4:07

“He never actually changes his beliefs. They're just molded into the appearance of Trotskyism. He transitions into the OSS and the CIA intelligence and then transitions into a neoconservative, all whil…”

James Burnham worked_for Office of Policy Coordination book_quoted ▶ 4:38

“While he was in the OSS slash CIA, in the Office of Policy Coordination, which is, if y'all remember, that's the people that are in charge of Gladio. That's the people that are in charge of the covert…”

Office of Policy Coordination front_for Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 4:38

James Burnham worked_for Congress for Cultural Freedom book_quoted ▶ 5:06

“an entity called Congress for Cultural Freedom, CCF. And that was a CIA front initiative to basically do propaganda. So his ideology and career are important, the author says, so that you can see that…”

Congress for Cultural Freedom front_for CIA book_quoted ▶ 5:06

James Burnham studied_at Princeton University book_quoted ▶ 5:38

“the neocon environment seamlessly. So he was born in 1905, and of course he was born in Chicago. He was raised Roman Catholic. He graduated from Princeton, and of course he went to Oxford. He went to …”

James Burnham studied_at Balliol College book_quoted ▶ 5:38

James Burnham born_in Chicago book_quoted ▶ 5:38

James Burnham studied_at Oxford University book_quoted ▶ 5:38

James Burnham relationship_with Martin D'Arcy book_quoted ▶ 6:13

“he adopted a mentor who was a Jesuit by the name of Martin D'Arcy. Martin D'Arcy at the Jesuit house on Oxford Campion Hall, that Burnham would become an atheist and leave the Catholic church. Now let…”

James Burnham founded Symposium book_quoted ▶ 9:11

“While still at Oxford, Burnham has made plans to launch a literary philosophical journal called the Symposium. He did that with his former Princeton teacher, Philip Wheelwright. In 1929, after graduat…”

Sidney Hook relationship_with Morris Cohen book_quoted ▶ 10:05

“It's just important to understand where his background is. And he, like everybody else, is a hypocrite. So he hangs around with the he meets a guy by the name of Sidney Hook, who will come up often, w…”

James Burnham relationship_with Sidney Hook book_quoted ▶ 10:05

John Dewey headed Liberal Socialist League of Independent Political Action book_quoted ▶ 10:36

“and John Dewey, who was a student at Columbia. Cohen was an outright Marxist. Dewey would be a dabbler. And he acted as the Liberal Socialist League of Independent Political Action, otherwise known as…”

John Dewey studied_at Columbia University book_quoted ▶ 10:36

James Burnham member_of Symposium book_quoted ▶ 11:39

“While he's not a professed Marxist, he's in that group. He published in the Symposium at a denouncement of Marxism as a dogmatic materialism, perhaps the most degrading ideology that has ever been imp…”

James Burnham relationship_with Leon Trotsky book_quoted ▶ 12:08

“and published in the Symposium, a glowing review of Leon Trotsky's History of the Russian Revolution. His first review of a political book. And so he becomes basically a Trotskyite. He corresponds wit…”

James Burnham reviewed History of the Russian Revolution book_quoted ▶ 12:08

Max Eastman studied_at Columbia University book_quoted ▶ 13:40

“The author goes on to say that it was through Max Eastman that a copy of the symposium actually reached Trotsky. Eastman, like Sidney Hook, had earned a Ph.D. in philosophy at Columbia University. I'm…”

Max Eastman moved_to Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 14:07

“Max Eastman traveled to the Soviet Union and remained there for 21 months, becoming friends with Leon Trotsky until he was exiled to Mexico. Trotsky was. So, and here it says, the author, Eastman woul…”

Max Eastman relationship_with Leon Trotsky book_quoted ▶ 14:07

James Burnham member_of Australian National Review book_quoted ▶ 14:07

Max Eastman member_of Australian National Review book_quoted ▶ 14:07

Australian National Review front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 14:37

“But again, I'm telling you, that is not an about faith. The National Review is a CIA operation. The William Buckley worked for the CIA, as will Burnham. So again, we're still down here on this. They b…”

William F. Buckley worked_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 14:37

James Burnham member_of Mont Pelerin Society book_quoted ▶ 15:08

“which is a front company for the CIA, as would Burnham. They would join Mount Hellerin, P-E-L-E-R-I-N Society, in the 1950s. Sidney Hook would become an anti-communist and directly work for the CIA as…”

Sidney Hook worked_for CIA book_quoted ▶ 15:08

James Burnham member_of Workers' Party book_quoted ▶ 17:38

“changed. Hook also decided that the Communist Party was insufficiently Marxist. You just can't make that crap up. So both him and Burnham break with the communist effort here in America because they'r…”

James Burnham worked_for Partisan Review book_quoted ▶ 18:16

“that Burnham wanted to create in 1933. This rebranded Marxism would become a mission for both Burnham and Hook. So they co-author a book, and Burnham starts writing for Partisan Review, and he starts …”

John Dewey headed Liberal Socialist League of Independent Political Action book_quoted ▶ 18:49

“Part of the American Workers Party was a guy by the name of M-U-S-T-E, A.J. Mustie, a Dutch-born clergyman who at this point had lost his religion. Mustie became a member of the newly formed League of…”

A.J. Muste member_of Liberal Socialist League of Independent Political Action book_quoted ▶ 18:49

A.J. Muste founded Congress for Progressive Labor Action book_quoted ▶ 19:19

“which was modeled off of the Fabian Society. You see how this all goes back to the foundation of fascism. Musty launched a new venture called the Congress for Progressive Labor Action. This was to uni…”

A.J. Muste removed_from_power Liberal Socialist League of Independent Political Action book_quoted ▶ 19:50

“must be publicly dropped out of the Dewey League. And this illustrates, as the author points out, this musical chairs of all of them just moving around and creating these organizations. The bottom lin…”

James Burnham criticized Franklin D. Roosevelt book_quoted ▶ 21:57

“something that stays consistent through Barnum's entire career. The idea of toppling the U.S. government was not a troubling thing to Burnham, but rather a thought he relished. So he believed that, th…”

James Burnham worked_for Office of Policy Coordination book_quoted ▶ 26:54

“That media is part of the mockingbird media. So I'm trying to make sure everyone knows when you see that, don't think it's like, what happened? You know exactly what happened. It's an intel op. So lat…”

Allen Dulles worked_for Sullivan & Cromwell book_quoted ▶ 27:26

“He worked at the firm Carter, Linyard, and Milburn. And Alan Dulles, who worked for the law firm of Sullivan and Cromwell, which was the Wall Street's best law firm, Burnham would back Nelson Rockefel…”

James Burnham supported Nelson Rockefeller book_quoted ▶ 27:26

James Burnham supported Ronald Reagan book_quoted ▶ 27:26

Frank Wisner worked_for Carter, Lanyard, and Milburn book_quoted ▶ 27:26

James Burnham authored The Managerial Revolution book_quoted ▶ 30:32

“which I would argue they didn't lose, they just changed strategies. This seeming ambivalence to fascism was made further transparent in Burnham's book called The Managerial Revolution, which had a ver…”

James Burnham founded American Committee for the Defense of Leon Trotsky book_quoted ▶ 32:06

“He also labeled, in my opinion, appropriately, that the New Deal was fascism without shirts. And I agree with that. So then he turns to basically infiltrating the Socialist Party and they come up with…”

Sidney Hook founded American Committee for the Defense of Leon Trotsky book_quoted ▶ 32:06

A.J. Muste relationship_with Leon Trotsky book_quoted ▶ 33:11

“They sign a letter to the president of Mexico protesting the reign of terror Mexican communists were allegedly committing against the Trotskyites when Trotsky got sought refuge in Mexico. Whether the …”

James Burnham relationship_with Leon Trotsky book_quoted ▶ 33:11

John Dewey relationship_with Leon Trotsky book_quoted ▶ 33:11

James Burnham founded Workers' Party book_quoted ▶ 33:43

“But Burnham had disagreed with him there and didn't believe that they were embracing the Socialist Worker Party agenda. So there were a few differences with Trotsky, as we noted earlier. Burnham would…”

James Burnham removed_from_power Spanish Socialist Workers' Party book_quoted ▶ 33:43

James Burnham worked_for Workers' Party book_quoted ▶ 34:15

“This was supposedly to preserve the pure Bolshevism purged of Trotsky's errors. Burnham worked six years for the Trotskyists. He renounced both Trotsky and the philosophy of Marxism altogether eventua…”

CIA ordered_assassination_of Leon Trotsky host_asserted ▶ 35:21

“So there's a lot of belief that the CIA was involved in that. And if that's true and Burnham is part of the CIA, then it would have been around the six month time frame that prior to the assassination…”

James Burnham removed_from_power Workers' Party book_quoted ▶ 35:51

“He resigns from the Workers' Party as of May 21st, 1940, and he's quoted as saying, I reject, as you know, the philosophy of Marxism, dialectical materialism. He further quotes, not only do I believe …”

James Burnham authored The Managerial Revolution host_asserted ▶ 36:24

“to us a new form of exploitive society which I call managerial society is not only possible but it is more probable outcome of the present than socialism so this is what he came up with in his materia…”

NATO ran_out_of Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 47:26

“I don't believe it's ever been won. And I think the Operation Gladio is the militaristic aspect of that ran out of NATO. Because if you want to be real, and I've probably said this before, NATO, if it…”

George H.W. Bush went_into Iraq host_asserted ▶ 47:58

“There's no other conversation. There was no longer a need to have a defensive alliance against an enemy that ceased to exist. And that's why, in 1991, George Bush Sr. went into Iraq to create the new …”

James Burnham supported Leon Trotsky host_asserted ▶ 50:12

“There's a lot of correlation between Gladio and where he went, once you understand what Gladio is all about. Okay, so Burnham also is on record as supporting Trotsky's permanent revolution, which is h…”

James Burnham predicted United States host_asserted ▶ 50:42

“book says managerial revolutions is not a prediction of something that will occur in the future but rather it's something that has already begun and it's happening and he believes that the battle is a…”

James Burnham influenced_by Halford Mackinder host_asserted ▶ 53:13

“that Burnham's remarks in 1972 that no one had influenced him significantly since the Machiavellians was not entirely true. There's a British historian by the name of Arnold Toynbee, T-O-Y-N-B-E-E, an…”

James Burnham influenced_by Arnold Toynbee host_asserted ▶ 53:13

United States established Truman Doctrine documented ▶ 55:09

“ever-present march towards fascism. And in 1947, Vernon published a paper that the first section of a book that he had written on Soviet ambitions, he called The Struggle for the World. And it says th…”

Vernon Hawk authored The Struggle for the World host_asserted ▶ 55:09

United States sent_troops_to Greece host_asserted ▶ 56:12

“subjugation of armed minorities or by outside pressures because they claim it was Soviets intervention in Greece that they were actually fighting against. And the Truman Doctrine, we may recall that i…”

Winston Churchill withdrew_support_from Greece host_asserted ▶ 58:15

“Churchill was fearful that this organization was going to beat the Nazis. And the greater majority of the Greek people supported the political group that opposed Nazism, which we've already establishe…”

United States used_chemical_weapons_in Greece host_asserted ▶ 59:22

“called for American backup. The Americans did not fight man-to-man, but waged chemical warfare on the Greek people, and we did that. That's not even up for debate. As they're defending their country a…”

Greece became Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 59:22

United States advocated_preemptive_strike_against Soviet Union host_asserted ▶ 1:02:24

“So Burnham used a OSS fluff piece called The Struggle for the World to call for, just as Bertrand Russell had, a preemptive strike against Russia, Soviet Union, while America still enjoyed the sole mo…”

James Burnham colleague_of Joseph Kennedy Sr. host_asserted ▶ 1:07:51

“and create a new world order those are my words cia psychological warfare division gladio meets the congress for cultural freedom so she goes back in time again um 1948 joseph fire brian the third a f…”

Joseph Kennedy Sr. joined CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:07:51

Joseph Kennedy Sr. headed Office of Policy Coordination host_asserted ▶ 1:07:51

Frank Wisner worked_for George F. Kennan host_asserted ▶ 1:08:23

“where many of the agency's recruits of the ex-Nazis were located, which is very important. Again, that blending of fascism. George Kennan, State Department policy planning staff, was a key figure behi…”

George F. Kennan key_figure_in_creation_of Office of Policy Coordination host_asserted ▶ 1:08:23

Joseph Kennedy Sr. offered_consultantship_to James Burnham host_asserted ▶ 1:08:50

“and moved over to lead that branch once it was set up. And during World War II, Burnham would leave his teaching post at NYU to work for the OSS in 1944. Carried on the work of the CIA when the OSS wa…”

Frank Wisner led Office of Policy Coordination host_asserted ▶ 1:08:50

James Burnham worked_for Office of Policy Coordination host_asserted ▶ 1:08:50

E. Howard Hunt member_of Office of Policy Coordination host_asserted ▶ 1:09:23

“for the OPC unit, which included the notorious E. Howard Hunt. Weird how that guy's name keeps coming up. The campaigns to harass communist governments, such as a Ukraine ban that until the early 1950…”

James Burnham colleague_of Ukrainian Congress Committee of America host_asserted ▶ 1:10:54

“revolts among Soviet labor camps. So he meets up with a former NYU colleague, and he had served as a liaison between the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America and the Republican Committee. So they w…”

Victoria Nuland taught_at Kateryna Yushchenko host_asserted ▶ 1:11:32

“Dobriansky, D-O-B-R-I-A-N-S-K-Y, has a student, and the student is Katrina Uchenko. Uchenko is the guy that eventually goes on to be the Stooge president, the Western puppet, after...…”

Kateryna Yushchenko married Viktor Yushchenko host_asserted ▶ 1:11:58

“The Ukrainian Revolution, the first one they had, not the 2014 one. So I believe that's correct. But this guy is not the good guy. This is the guy that they basically set up. What's interesting, thoug…”

Kateryna Yushchenko member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:13:01

“under George H.W. Bush. And she actually was accused of being a CIA asset internal to Ukraine, just FYI. I read an article about that when I was researching her last night. So I just find that fascina…”

National Captive Nations Committee did_business_with Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists host_asserted ▶ 1:13:34

“being exactly who we think they are. Okay, so Dobriensky was the chairman of the National Captive Nations Committee, whose local committees often allied with the Bandera wing of the Organization of Uk…”

Victoria Nuland headed National Captive Nations Committee host_asserted ▶ 1:13:34

Franklin D. Burnham member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:14:08

“Burnham's enthusiasm for the political war brought him close ties to foreign, quote unquote, anti-communist. He opened his house and it became known as a Mecca for Iron Curtain refugees. Burnham singl…”

Franklin D. Burnham founded Congress for Cultural Freedom host_asserted ▶ 1:14:35

“And he's gleaning intel for the use of the CIA because these neo-Nazis are staying behind Gladio units. Full circle. Burnham's single most important office of policy coordination effort was to create …”

Franklin D. Burnham member_of Office of Policy Coordination host_asserted ▶ 1:15:08

“repression. You gotta love this. Western freedom. The freedom they're trying to destroy. So the Congress for Cultural Freedom is basically a CIA front. And he, Burnham joined in preparation for the co…”

Congress for Cultural Freedom front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:15:08

Frank Wisner funded Congress for Cultural Freedom host_asserted ▶ 1:16:07

“And since everything about the West is said to be free, free, free, then it went without saying that everything about the Soviet Union wasn't. Organized by Burnham and Hooke, the American delegation r…”

Marvin Warner exposed Congress for Cultural Freedom book_quoted ▶ 1:16:35

“which helped arrange travel expenses and publicity. According to a CIA historian, Mark Warner, the conference sponsors considered it money well spent, with one Defense Department representative callin…”

Franklin D. Burnham headed Psychological Strategy Board host_asserted ▶ 1:17:43

“Burnham would become head of the Psychological Strategy Board, Division of the Office of Policy Coordination. In a PSB that was created May 5th, 1953, it laid out the strategy for how free intellectua…”

Francis Stoner Saunders proposed Franklin D. Burnham book_quoted ▶ 1:18:18

“saunders makes the point in the cultural cold war it was likely burnham himself who had drafted the psb and it's the fitzgerald and gold is quoted as saying it foretells of a long-term intellectual mo…”

Will Moore Kendall recruited William F. Buckley host_asserted ▶ 1:21:28

“Because we go from one to the other. Buckley, who had served in World War II, was not eager to return to the field of war. And there's also another guy by the name of Will Moore Kendall, who taught Bu…”

William F. Buckley member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:22:00

“under Wisner. So Buckley becomes part of the CIA. He was stationed in Mexico City with none other than E. Howard Hunt. That guy's name comes up every single time. So supposedly he didn't like the work…”

William F. Buckley did_business_with E. Howard Hunt host_asserted ▶ 1:22:30

“He became the godfather to Hunt's first three children. That's how close they were. So I would make the supposition that Buckley never actually left the CIA. He just went undercover. So as we know, he…”

William F. Buckley founded Australian National Review host_asserted ▶ 1:22:30

Priscilla Buckley member_of CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:23:02

“neo-con ideas, all of which could be lined up under fascism. So he employs Burnham and several of his peers. Priscilla Buckley, William's sister, was the managing editor of the National Review and had…”

Australian National Review front_for CIA host_asserted ▶ 1:28:09

“liberal party and destroying it. And this guy, the National Review was a front media company for the CIA. This guy is still being paid as a CIA asset. And he is telling you right here that it is the o…”

Franklin D. Burnham proposed Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:28:41

“We're going to destroy it. Burnham, in his writings for the National Review, pushed the U.S., pushed that the U.S. had to pay more attention to alternative weapons. And he's just the guy for the CIA, …”

Operation Gladio operated_in Ukraine host_asserted ▶ 1:37:28

“It was Operation Gladio in both Poland and Ukraine of because their borders kind of flux during World War Two. The complete annihilation of the Jewish population by the residents of both Poland and Uk…”

Operation Gladio operated_in Poland host_asserted ▶ 1:37:28

Right Sector member_of Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:42:28

“Um, Azov is the one that gets all of the headlines, but right sector is equally evil as far as, um, what I'm now going to be labeling as a stay behind unit, because that's definitely what they are. Um…”

Azov Battalion member_of Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 1:42:28