OPERATION GLADIO Exposed by COLONEL TOWNER in Presidents' Secret Wars Chapter 18 (Final)

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0:00 space, so everybody knows that since we ran long on the Ireland interview, we're obviously starting a little late today. Crazy, crazy, crazy schedule. All right, so this chapter is called Presidents, Policies, and Paramilitary Options. The controversy over mining of the Nicaraguan ports, and you guys remember

0:25 um that when we did the segment on nicaragua when we were doing our world tour about the u.s special forces going down and actually when you just showed up okay actually planting mines in the um harbor of nicaragua during the iran contra affair um that there was a compromise between the executive branch and congress that better defined requirements for

0:54 presidential findings, which of course we learned a long time ago that those were required to do these covert operations to include assassinations and under what conditions they may be rendered. These definitions are bound to be tested over time since the Reagan administration strongly defends its option to resort to any type of covert action to include assassination. There is renewed pressure.

1:24 There was renewed pressure in 1986 to resume military aid to the Contras, even though it had been forbidden. There were also vocal demands for similar paramilitary aid to Cambodian rebels and to UNITA in Angola, all of which were the bad guys. This time, according to some, we should support quote-unquote anti-communist Cambodians who will fight a Vietnamese puppet government.

1:58 It is pertinent that this time our ally will be the faction headed by Noradom Shahanuk, the ruler overthrown in 1970, who has allied with the communist guerrillas of Pol Pot, formerly our enemy. In Angola, over the decades since Operation Feature, Jonas Sabembe had persevered

2:26 the close united relationship with South African intelligence and a renewed paramilitary action in Angola would be subject to the same political problems that John Stockwell described in the 1975 fiasco. What then of the theorists who had the bigger visions? Two of the more prominent exponents of activism in today's era is the

2:56 Dr. Angelo Cotevilla, a Senate staff member, and Dr. Roy Godson, a political science professor at Georgetown. Their vision expressed in a 1985 paper, quote, it is neither superfluous nor beyond our means to supply material assistance to the victims of communist oppression in Eastern Europe and to their families. The covert networks to deliver this assistance can be built.

3:26 Over the long run, the safety net for those who chose to stand up for their rights, combined with the well-timed subversion of the Soviet Union, most ubiquitous servants might help to neutralize and perhaps even turn Eastern Europe into a liability for the Soviet Union. You know, so as long as you call them communist and you are an anti-communist, you can do whatever the hell you want.

3:56 While denying that this would amount to nurturing popular anti-Soviet movements, the authors make clear that such covert aid would be part of a policy including political and economic measures. There are strong echoes of a rollback here, as well as a return to operations in denied areas. That was Frank Wisner's Job Jar.

4:21 Former intelligence officers almost uniformly support a continued capability for and a reliance on covert action. This remains true after the recent excesses in Nicaragua and statements from such figures like William Colby and Ray Klein. Retired CIA officers like B. Hugh Tovar and Ted Shackley

4:46 have even advanced theories of covert actions to supply some intellectual foundation for secret warfare. Shackley considers covert actions a third option between doing nothing and going to war. Visions of covert actions are based on a wish and a hope. The theories have been preoccupied with tactical considerations, with menus of measures and conditions for success.

5:12 Neither the visions nor the theories seem to have made much difference to access the net effect of covert actions on American foreign policy. Rather, the argument runs these techniques have been useful sometimes and therefore should be used in perpetuity. Writing after the controversy of mining Nicaraguan harbors, met George Bundy, Mr. Skull and Bones himself, noted that the dismal

5:39 historical record of covert military and paramilitary operations over the last 25 years is entirely clear. As the NSC advisor to Kennedy and Johnson, Bundy had some basis on which to make this observation. The truth is that the record of covert action is not without successes. Notably, among them are the partisan projects during the Korean War,

6:09 Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say that one was not successful, but I guess there's success is not determined by how many dead bodies you leave around. A necessary qualification is that programs were successful in mobilizing paramilitary force, but were not strategically decisive. So again, if you don't achieve your overall strategy, how do you call it a success? Okay.

6:42 The CIA programs most often cited as successes were Operation Ajax in Iran and Operation Success in Guatemala. Yet these victories had only a short-term effect. Action on Iran sowed the seeds for what became anti-Americanism. Imagine that. You kill the populist president, or you house arrest him for the rest of his life, and people don't like you anymore.

7:11 In Guatemala, the overthrow of Arbenz turned the country away from democracy, the supposed aim of the covert action. Because we know it wasn't for democracy. It was to ensure cheap slave labor. Neither victory materially affected the balance of any Cold War. And disturbingly, failure would have triggered shifts.

7:39 by forcing those nations into the arms of the Soviet Union, which in fact it did as far as different factions in that country, as JFK pointed out. A paradigm case for this sort of failure had been Cuba. The vendetta conducted by Eisenhower radicalized Fidel Castro and necessitated their reliance on the Soviet Union.

8:06 and converted a traditional friend of the U.S. into an opponent. The covert action also backfired by leaving the Cubans and Soviets that led to the Soviets deploying missiles there, which obviously enhanced the threat to the United States. It didn't lessen it, despite having spent millions and millions of dollars.

8:31 And then you go into Angola, Grenada, Nicaragua, blah, blah, blah. Operations against these denied areas uniformly resulted in failures and have long been abandoned. Had these operations been successful, the Soviets would have been confronted with a necessity for a response not confined to paramilitary levels. That would be if there was actually communists there, but there weren't.

8:57 The People's Republic of China was one quote unquote denied area where operations ended up as a detriment to the United States. Ventures in the Muslim area and in Vietnam and along with Chiang Kai-shek and his corrupt KMT only pissed off the Chinese communists and made the relationship.

9:26 to include the use of the Tibetans and the Uyghurs, basically pitted China against us when they weren't against us before that. And all of the shenanigans of what they did posing as a communist threat pissed off the Soviet Union, when in fact, they weren't our enemy after World War II either.

9:55 It's almost like they want to create the big boogeyman to scare the hell out of us. Indonesia was not a denied area, but the result there was similar. Sukarno was able to use the apparent American threat as justification for doing other actions that he may have not gotten away with necessarily. Most of the other paramilitary operations surveyed has been failures, perhaps except.

10:26 the congo where the outcome was what they wanted but at the detriment of tens of thousands of people the ledger of failures included albania angola um the kurds in addition to efforts in chile um in nicaragua the issue remained in doubt but the the lack of favorable outcome to

10:59 the U.S. was apparent. The Contras were unable to triumph in the 1980s when the conditions favored them. There was little success in forging a united front, and it left a humanitarian disaster in its wake, not just in Nicaragua, but in El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala.

11:25 In all of these CIA operations, there is a lesson for prospective guerrilla warfare. Being a superpower, the U.S. acts in its own interest, which are those of a great power. There is little true identity of interest between the rest of local minority and the great power. While there is substantial danger in accepting paramilitary aid,

11:51 that may later evaporate at critical moments meaning the u.s is not a reliable partner don't rely on them american national interest suffers each time a paramilitary operation fails but they still keep doing them the record shows successes to be few failures to be many and british historian michael howard captured the essence of this development

12:17 In a speech that he delivered at Oxford, quote, the belligerents during the World War II not only developed weapons of mass destruction, they also developed methods of strategy, subversion, and psychological warfare, which afterwards remained in their arsenal and became, as it were, institutionalized. In the ideological confrontation that developed after the war and with which we still have to live,

12:45 Honorable men of great ability served their countries by engaging in activities of a kind of unjustifiable by any criteria other than the most brutal kind and by an argument that their adversaries were doing the same, which of course they were not. After building a capability expressly to fight the Russians, American secret warriors soon abandoned

13:15 action in the denied areas in favor of intervention in third world countries. Covert action, and I argue that they were set up to do that to begin with because they were working on behalf of the international syndicate. In roughly six years until 1954,

13:33 The CIA was able to generate its global paramilitary capability once built, no further paramilitary operations were as ever attempted against the Soviet Union despite everything being justified because of the Soviet Union. In terms of its contribution, the U.S. relations with the Third World paramilitary actions had the minimal

13:59 positive results. The U.S. committed itself to long-term assistance in Iran after we overthrew it, Guatemala after we overthrew it, Chile after we overthrew it. The numerous failures contributed nothing. Moreover, it could be argued that they were a huge liability. Shipping focus

14:24 to paramilitary actions in its own terms, a number of specific weaknesses are visible. There are problems inherent in the use of the technique, including to some extent the complementary features of political action and psychological warfare. Langley had become an avid sponsor of a third force political movements. Third force movements are non-communist, preferably anti-communist, but

14:52 This author says are not fascist, but they always has resulted in a fascist being in charge. So nice try guy. In practice, the third force often turns into being a politically, he is not saying that, a politically moderate Christian democratic.

15:16 as in happened in several European countries. That's just a bold-faced lie. This is considering Diem a Catholic, a Christian, when in fact he was a mass murderer. The third world nations, however, in third world nations, the third force movements also tend to be associated with what? Oligarchs in Latin America? Ha ha ha.

15:46 oligarchs in the US using oligarchs in Latin America to overthrow their countries. Nice try. Sometimes there is no third force. The usual political action response is then to create one. These types of artificial groupings tend to have little popular support and are perceived as agents of American power because they are.

16:11 That was the case in Laos with the Committee for the Defense of National Interest in Albania with the Committee for a Free Albania and Angola with Holden Roberto. In Zaire, they used Joseph Mubatu. While the assumptions in using a third force tactic is that they will have widespread political appeal, artificial movements are fragile and don't work. Where arrays of organized political movements exist,

16:41 The choice is frequently limited. In Indonesia, Alan Dulles' CIA chose to align itself with a separatist military officer group and political malcontents. More recently, in Nicaragua, the CIA had favored the former National Guard of the FDN over the former Sandinistas. Too often, the U.S. seems to be on the wrong side. Always.

17:10 Langley appears to prefer alleged military experience over political credibility. That's definitely true because they are not interested in installing democracy. They're interested in installing a fascist dictator so their people can be exploited. You would think an author who had written this book and exposed this entire thing would have figured that out.

17:38 after maybe one or two patterns. The special problem of working through local proxies is suffering political liabilities as a result of acts by the local allies. The Indonesian colonels with their smuggling again comes to mind, but there is also drug trafficking by Li Mi's Chinese and Beng Pao Mao.

18:04 Allegations of similar activities has been laid at the feet of both the Nicaraguan conflict. In Tibet, Afghanistan, and the Indonesia war, a proportion of the CIA's assistance was soaked up by its own allies while still in the pipeline. These kinds of problems not only reduce the effectiveness of covert operations, they make sure that they're going to fail.

18:30 Another kind of special problem that arises is the mobilization of local minorities in defense of the nation, as in counterinsurgency in Indochina, which mobilized the Montegards in Vietnam and the Miao in Laos. In the classical technique, the loyalty of these minority people is gained through nation building. The broad range of measures designed to give a

18:59 people a stake in the conflict. The problem lies in the contradiction inherent between building a nation that they're a minority in and just supporting the national government. The competition usually can end in only one way, as illustrated in South Vietnamese suppression of the Montague.

19:25 autonomy movement and its incorporation into the Mike forces into the South Vietnamese army. A similar sort of calculation lies behind the decision of the Shah of Iran to betray the Kurdish minority movement. Such movements by governments allied with the U.S. are not far removed from the Soviet suppression of the minorities in Ukraine, Astoria, Latvia, and Lithuania.

19:53 And those supposedly are the very things that we were wanting to avoid, but we did them too. Paramilitary action is also subject to serious operational difficulties. Freelance raids by the CIA's own allies and others can disrupt careful planning, such as happened with the...

20:17 Cuban exiles repeatedly. There is also the problem with the CIA officers who become rogue. The CIA is a tightly disciplined organization, but even it has its limits. The records show that American officers violated orders against direct involvement in operations in China, Guatemala, Cuba, Angola, Laos, you know, but they're all rogue. There's no pattern there. Not at all.

20:47 During the Guatemala action, a CIA officer took the instructions of a local ally to bomb a neutral freighter. In Laos, a CIA officer assigned to the Capitol also unilaterally changed U.S. policy. In Nicaragua, the CIA contract officer concocted a guerrilla warfare manual that broke the regulations designed to avoid involvement in assassinations. Yeah.

21:15 That was a rogue guy and not at all the policy, except for it was the policy. It's no wonder that Langley's paramilitary staff worried about quote unquote cowboys. A slightly different problem is the officer who adopts the values and goals of the people the CIA is attempting to mobilize. This can lead to insubordination since Langley's goals are rarely identical.

21:41 to the local minority that they're trying to recruit. The agency and the military special warfare forces had difficulties of this sort when they were working with the Tibetans in Laos as well as the Cubans. Leaks of information have attributed to several covert action failures. Most insidious are the leaks that are caused by the adversary's use of classical espionage techniques because it

22:09 These are unknown to the secret warriors laying their plans. Penetrations of the Soviet and Albanian operations by Kim Philby was an example of this. Leaks to the press are better known, but at least press leaks becomes known to Langley, so countermeasures can be taken. That's hilarious. They're the ones actually doing the leaks to the press.

22:36 In any major paramilitary action, which may involve the CIA staff in several countries, military men, various equipment, blah, blah, blah, such leaks are basically inevitable. These kinds of leaks occurred during the operation in Indochina, Tibet, Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, you know, all of them. In addition, instances of covert actions have been canceled because of leaks.

23:08 Even when a covert action is executed completely successfully with no leaks in the world, there are not secret victims. Even a successful paramilitary action can become embarrassing in retrospect, owning the changing of patterns of international relationships. Good illustrations of this is China and the Tibetans. At the time,

23:35 China was considered an enemy, but later the Nixon administration undertook rapprochement, redefining China as a counterweight to the Soviet Union. The covert actions, successful as they may have been, suddenly became an obstacle to any negotiation with China because they have a long memory. The CIA exists to serve the president. There would not be paramilitary actions except for presidential.

24:06 decisions, which may or may not be true. But it helps when you have a president that's selected, not elected, to serve the international syndicate because it aligns perfectly with what the CIA is there for. Presidents since Henry Truman have been more or less frequent users of covert operations.

24:31 Truman was concerned with creating capabilities and undertaking operations with them. Control was mostly left to a subordinate organization, namely the 10-2 and the 10-5 panels. It was President Eisenhower, with his extensive experience in this field, who put intelligence control on a more formal basis by giving coordination and follow-up tasks to the

25:00 5412 group, which is basically the same thing. They just rename it every administration. Through eight years in the White House, however, Ike proved unable to get the special group to do anything he wanted it to. That's so funny. Yeah, because they didn't like kill Lumumba or any of those things or Guatemala or Iran during his administration. What the hell?

25:27 The Nixon administration left the special group mechanism in place, retitled it the 40 Committee, and with extra presidential watchdogs added. But the group was left to monitor only the less important kind of covert actions because Nixon did the other ones himself. Conditions improved somewhat during the administration of Ford and Carter.

25:49 but have greatly deteriorated during Reagan, with the president himself chairing the meetings and now being completely in charge where there's no plausible deniability, which happened under Reagan. Paramilitary actions of doubtably legal are approved and monitored by a special group. The group format makes it difficult to exercise initiative or to give

26:15 the degree of attention to every proposal. Moreover, the CIA exhibits a proclivity toward holding on to implementation decisions once initial approval has been received. The record on presidential control of covert operations is that these never have been complete controlled.

26:41 Although the White House has the authority to start them, the problem with this authority is that it may not even exist. The legal basis for presidential authority to initiate covert action rests entirely on an ambiguous such other functions clause of the National Security Act 1947. Yet we have seen several occasions where the CIA general counsel actually says they're not legal.

27:11 If the president instead relied on the authority as commander-in-chief of the armed forces, the problem is that the CIA is not an armed force, at least not supposed to be. Even if it were, the president would then have to deem the use of the Wars Power Act. Moreover, if the CIA is to be considered an unofficial armed force, then the Constitution expressively reserves to Congress

27:42 not the president, to issue the approval for operations. This legal conundrum would not exist if there were a detailed charter that specified permissible missions and methods. But who wants that? Because then you're not free to do whatever the hell you want. One of the most damaging effects of the controversy over William Casey's appointment as director of the CIA

28:11 is that it diverted congressional attention from the broader questions of intelligence reform. The Congressional Oversight Committee have had a very limited impact. Without an intelligence charter, the committees are forced to play catch-up with Langley as an administration arbitrarily advances new interpretations of sketchy laws. This is underlying meaning of the continuing struggle between the executive branch and Congress over presidential findings.

28:42 and what needs to be reported. To doubtful legality and haphazard control must be added to the findings that paramilitary operations pose special problems and that they have contributed little to our national security. I would go so far as to say it's completely compromised our national security.

29:07 The general dilemma is further sharpened by the weakness of the War Power Act. The act excluded the CIA when drafted on the grounds that it would be covered in an omnibus charter legislation, which never occurred. Further, the main sanction available to

29:27 Congress under the act concurrent resolution by Congress that can mandate termination of unauthorized hostilities has recently been ruled unconstitutional in the courts. One measure that could help clarify the legal status of paramilitary action would be to end the CIA's role altogether and stop doing it. This would ensure maintenance of the capability of an actual mission relating to intelligence of the CIA.

29:56 and not covert action. The secret warriors themselves would then be subject to stricter military discipline and regulations. The real danger inherent in the current framework for covert operations is not the CIA as a rogue elephant, even though it is, but the imperial presidency. America learned about rogue presidents during the Watergate scandal in which

30:24 It was irresponsible to use covert action techniques, and it can lead to anything, including nuclear confrontation. It is not reasonable to allow a president that much freedom of action. The executive struggle to limit accountability continues. In the meantime, the people of places like Nicaragua have learned the true dangers of military action, as well as many others along the way.

30:55 The end. So I think the most striking part, which, you know, actually kind of harkens back to the space that we were just doing with Ireland. It's amazing to me that you can have someone, obviously someone of high intellect, John Prados, the guy that wrote President's Secret Wars. He can go through.

31:27 with some a little bit minor instances of misinformation as far as the actual operations of, you know, these quote unquote, according to him, secret wars and not ever pick up patterns. I mean, the patterns are obvious and reaches conclusions having not noticed the patterns of what was actually going on.

31:56 is truly astounding to me actually um and why i find reading these books obviously we come across details that we didn't have before which is the whole reason we read them um but it it also goes to why things that obviously people knew were happening never got fixed because if you can't actually identify the patterns of what's going on

32:25 um just looking at the the facts to the extent that they they exist isn't enough you actually have to be able to look at the 10 different things or however many it was that we went through in that book and be able to lay them side by side and say what does all of that mean which is what we did um when we first came across operation gladio and then understand what the concept is

32:53 Buy books like, you know, President's Secret Wars or some of these others like Twilight of the Shadow Government or whatever. I've got a whole stack of them here. And the old boys, America's elite of the origins of the CIA. So when you start looking at those books, while they don't actually use the term Operation Gladio.

33:18 you quickly identify patterns of behavior, actions that clearly illustrate what was going on. The fact that not any of this was ever used to actually confront or deal with this threat, which was supposedly communism, but the allegation of communism was consistently made up.

33:46 and used as a reason to invade democratically elected countries has to. I mean, it just has to. You have to step back and go, what the hell? Why would you go into Chile? They had been a democracy for well over 100 years. Peaceful transport, power, everything. And so someone would have to go, well, wait a minute. Do we even care?

34:15 what they they have elections that's not a communist government so then that should make you look at why would they do that why would they consistently call people communists when there's no evidence there is actually any communism going on in the country so at some point then you have to take a step back and go son of a bitch let's look at who's all involved and it would take you

34:45 five seconds to figure out that it's the same companies. It's Standard Oil. It's PepsiCo. It's Freeport Mining. It's ITT. And they're in every story. So I just find it hilarious. Bridget, go ahead. And I keep going back to even if they were communist government, it's not our government. Why are we there? You know?

35:14 Well, the one that is a communist government we don't do anything with. Right. I guess I'm back to the old mind your own business. We started out at mind your own business and we ended up at mind your own business. Right. Exactly. With a whole bunch of dead bodies in the middle. And lies and drugs and all sorts of stuff. And all of our wealth stolen. Right. Right.

35:46 Which is, at some point you have to acknowledge that had to be the point of the entire thing is to enslave all of us. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, if it wasn't so evil, it is impressive how they literally lulled us to sleep and it goes back to the whole frog in a pot. Yes. And the slow rising of water, you know, the slow heating of water. We never knew it.

36:18 We never saw it. We just believed them, you know? Yes, that's exactly it. But thankfully, right before we collectively took our last breath, it seems things are changing so far. Before the water came to a boil. Right, right, exactly. Got hot enough to burn us. SR71, yeah. Go ahead, SR. I want to thank everybody for attending.

36:57 By the way, that was a great session on the Irish channel. Thank you. We learned quite a bit about what's going on over there. Yes. I did. Me too. Anyway, two points here. He talks about rogue in the book, and we know damn good and well they did exactly what they were told. There was nothing rogue about it. Second, Bridget, I'm thinking about what you just said.

37:27 And in my opinion, it's not that they didn't want to know. I look at the Intelligence Committee in Congress, in both houses, the Senate and the House, as being totally compromised. They were compromised from the get-go. So it really didn't matter who wanted to know anything about it in Congress outside of that group, you weren't going to get it.

37:56 Other than that, that's my assessment of what really happened. Thank you, Carol. Sure. I see you're talking to Silk Purse over on Rumble. I love this. So Silk Purse says, hi, newbie here. Been listening, reading for three weeks. How am I ever going to catch up? How did I not know all of this? Silk Purse, join the club.

38:23 Yes, we are a couple of years ahead of you. But as SR7D1 pointed out, the trail, we left a breadcrumb trail, just like the fairy tales. And he's right to say the best place to start is over on Alpha Warriors channel, the Alpha Warriors show on Rumble. If you go to playlist, click on it, click on Operation Gladio. It starts at chapter one.

38:52 and go through there. You're obviously welcome. We've done tons of book reviews on my channel on Rumble.

39:02 If you have an account on X, you can go to the pin post. And we have a wonderful Swedish follower that goes and collects our spaces every day. We did an around the world tour of sample countries and Gladio operations within each of those countries and the overthrow of their governments. We also have.

39:26 a substack called the Colonel's Corner, where you can read about specific topics that are kind of corollary, like what is Zionism? Where did it come from? It plays into Operation Gladio towards, you know, in the aftermath of World War II, but it was generated by the same people that came up with the origins.

39:55 of operation gladio back in the late 1800s and so as we have found things um like i did not realize that the um you know one of the kind of close but not exactly operation gladio is the prison system in the united states because when they flooded the united states with the illegal drugs which is operation gladio um

40:26 What they did in order to launch a quote unquote war on drugs was they arrested all of the low level criminals, which happened to be primarily black because they were specifically targeting black neighborhoods to destroy their culture. The prison system, now that you have private prisons, ended up looking exactly like a third world country where we enslaved the people down there by installing a dictator.

40:56 It's just called a warden in a private prison because then companies can actually get those prisoners to produce products for them supposedly and pay them some pennies on the dollar. So we've actually implemented this here. And because I found that so fascinating and I didn't know anything about it, I did a research project on it and I posted it on my sub stack just because I was blown away by it.

41:26 There's some, like I said, they're not specifically all Operation Gladio, although there are some there. There's a lot of corollary things because in doing Operation Gladio, a lot of things come up that I didn't know anything about. So I had to do like a side trip down a road in order to learn a background. And while I was doing that, I just figured if I don't know it.

41:53 Other people may not know it either, so I'll capture it so that we have it here as kind of like a backup. It definitely isn't the place you want to go initially, but it does have some rounding out information that once you understand Gladio, you will find very helpful. Miles, go ahead. You're always triggering me in the listener spot when you bring up a certain subject about Arkansas and the Clintons.

42:26 I didn't say Arkansas or Clinton. No, you were talking about the private prisons and how they were using the prisoners and selling their blood to Canada. Okay, I didn't say that. Well, that's what was going on. I thought you said you did research on it.

42:54 I wasn't researching bio labs. I was researching private prisons, Miles. Okay, well, that was what was going on at the private prisons, too, out of Arkansas. I thought it was in that research. Not to go off on a tangent, but you triggered me when you said it. Yeah, that's me. I've got all of the buttons now.

43:25 all along go ahead um yeah colonel i just first wanted to remark it's partly off topic but not really since this relates to the very essence when you know the deep state completely overtook the three branches we spend trillions on teaching 100 of the population um this representative luna i i really i don't know how florida grew her

43:51 And again, I'm a native Floridian, although it's cheating. I haven't been there. So I'm obviously not really attuned with stuff lately. But she had a press conference that I put in the bubble and I would really urge everybody to watch this. It is. I mean, I had very little hope for the JFK stuff ever getting any publicity whatsoever. But I'm telling you, everybody watch this. This representative Luna. Whoa.

44:20 she is like bat out of hope um or i don't know where they grew her um he has been on fire for the last two days she's been on fire he really is pretty amazing yeah i'm like whoa i haven't felt the spirit since um never because um she i mean just for for folks who have you know read up on the jfk stuff i mean she's mentioning the silk the cybert o'neill report and this is like

44:50 This is meat and potatoes of the literal autopsy cover-up, right? Simon and O'Neill were the FBI agents who were there at amateur hour Bethesda Naval. Right. And what they said and what, you know, the official report of the JFK autopsy are like night and day cubed over here. And she's talking about bringing in people who were on the Assassinations Records Review Board, which was a...

45:19 Unlike, you know, research here and research here, this was a congressionally mandated organization that went around interviewing all over the country, different federal agencies to make them cough up all of their JFK records. And this was the organization, by the way, that made the Secret Service burn their remaining RFK records in 1995.

45:47 Everybody watch this Luna thing. It's amazing. Again, if this is an opportunity for like the sort of stuff that only JFK kind of like nerds watch, this is an opportunity for it to go widescreen. And if any of this ever goes, you know, to a wider audience, this is an utter game changer. Okay. The other thing I wanted to, I just wanted to briefly comment on Bridget's comment regarding the boiling frogs.

46:17 metaphor that's i think that's my i use that metaphor a lot because it's really describes how the deep state can keep on growing year after year after year without people without the public having any idea of what's really happened and and i think that one of the kind of factors that has enabled the spoiling frogs situation to develop is

46:46 Our new media situation where everyone is spread out on different aspects of the internet, it makes it very, very easy for elites to control the narrative. It was originally sold as some sort of freedom, but it has a tremendous ability for elites to connect big media to internet sites.

47:15 and just completely obliterate public awareness so that leading to this boiling frogs effect where some people might know stuff but the public itself cannot see the same thing at the same page at the same time so these hearings are almost like a way around this boiling frogs effect that has been the boiling frogs are really the united states since this creation of the cia

47:45 Yeah, I don't disagree. And I'm just going to claim a little credit here. She's from the Clearwater area of the state. She's also former Air Force. Well, that explains it. Yep. Yep. Just saying. Just saying. Yeah, she's awesome. Absolutely awesome. All right. So anybody else got anything? If not.

48:19 I'm going to jump up here and finish my latest thread that kind of gives us some background on what was going on in Benghazi that I spent the morning working on. Well, actually the last week working on, but I'm almost done with it. It's going to be a total of three segments. I just pushed out the first one in between these two spaces. Miles.

48:50 I'm having a hard time keeping up. There's so many things happening at once. Go watch The Presser today with the boss and Elon. It was a good one. So I'm juggling all these different things trying to keep up. We all are. The pace has definitely picked up. That's for sure. Did you guys, any of you actually...

49:21 What's her name? My mind just went blank. The South Carolina testimony in the house yesterday, last night. Is that the one where she was just explaining? Maze. Nancy Maze. Yeah. Yes. That was mind-blowing. That really was.

49:46 Did they bring charges against? I didn't get to hear the whole thing. No, no, no. The attorney general has done nothing. Wow. SR 71. Horrific what she was describing. Yeah. Yes, I watched the whole thing. As a matter of fact, I reposted it, I believe, on my Twitter. And it just, it's heartbreaking to listen to this woman talk about what she actually found and what's going on.

50:22 But the one thing that I will tell you is those, pardon me, those bastards need to be put away, period. That needs to happen. It is in the congressional record because she did that on the House floor. So somebody needs to do something now, in my opinion. So just for anyone who's not listened, she was dating.

50:55 a man. She has kids and in South Carolina, evidently somebody that has money given the addresses that she was talking about. I'm very familiar with that area. So that those are not the low rent district areas. And there were four people, four men that were in business together. And they were basically.

51:24 um raping drugging people raping them as incapacitated and filming each other doing it they had um done voyagerism of teenagers um looking up people's um

51:43 skirts, dresses. They have Airbnb. So if you've stayed in an Airbnb in South Carolina, you might want to check out who the owner is because they had hidden cameras that they were basically being peeping toms of people. The entire thing is just crazy. And over the last year or so,

52:11 She had tried repeatedly to deal with the state of South Carolina to hold these four men accountable. Lots of victims that she identified on videos to include some of the other people's wives. And a lot of them didn't even know that they had been.

52:39 molested because they had been drugged first. And that actually happened to her as well, by the way. And all of this was put on the record yesterday. And towards the end, she had said that she had tried repeatedly to work with the South Carolina AG, who has done absolutely nothing to hold any of them accountable, despite all of the time that has went by. It is a horrific situation.

53:09 And, you know, of all of the things that have went on in the last several years, it is weird now that she brings that up. Why you never hear the South Carolina AG? You know, you hear Kansas, Missouri, Florida, all of these Texas AGs doing shit. You didn't never hear anything about South Carolina, which is 100 percent Republican.

53:39 So obviously there's a lot of weirdos to include Lindsey Graham from South Carolina. America, go. Yeah. And like, as you say, Nancy herself was a victim. She had two drinks one evening, blacked out and did not even know anything happened to her until later. So I put that whole.

54:09 Speech down in your bubble chat there. Thank you. It's from her page. And I just, you could listen to her voice. Yeah. It was just, you know. So brave. So brave coming out and saying that. So in public. So brave. You know? Well, and like she said, you know, the only way those people, those men.

54:39 are able to do what they do is because they have customers for businesses that they are in and there better be no one doing business with them ever again. Sunshine, go ahead. Yeah, I was just going to say every woman needs to stand behind her and every other woman that this happens to because it happens more often than you.

55:08 then you think you know one out of four women in one way or another is um you know sexually abused and happens to a lot more of us women and then i mean it happens to men too but you know no no shame in these women and girls and everything everyone needs to stand behind them agreed all along where'd he go he just disappeared miles go ahead

55:41 You know, before we met, Colonel, we were talking about Pacer.gov, and why were there so many sealed indictments? Because it just seemed there was way too many, and we couldn't understand or explain it. Now, I don't know if they're connected to a lot of the stuff that's being exposed now, that because of that word you used, mapped out, they've been mapping this out. But it just kind of makes sense that Trump wants to save some money.

56:11 on incarceration and prisons. Because maybe there's going to be a lot of people there. I don't know. I don't know either. All along, go ahead. Yeah, Colonel, mentioning South Carolina, you're right, South Carolina is a Republican state. And yet, I think it's very noteworthy that the media...

56:43 The Democratic-oriented media at CNN and MSNBC have placed, especially in recent years, an extreme emphasis on South Carolina. And what I mean by that is throughout the primaries, you know, in other states, they would say, oh, but is Bernie Sanders, does he have enough black support, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, and again.

57:10 Nominally, it would seem like it's a racial thing, but with Representative Clyburn and his extreme corporate, as in Pfizer, connections, it was used in a way that would make the Democrats more gigantic corporation in the guise of race.

57:39 So what I'm saying is that the Democrats have in some ways worked with Republicans in South Carolina to move the whole spectrum much more corporate, corporate, corporate. And it's really kind of a Machiavellian way where you have the big Democratic-oriented television networks, you know, seeming to quote.

58:08 be more liberal but only in a very narrow racially defined way where it's actually not benefiting the vast majority of both you know black white and any other of the people because it's becoming 100 corporate right as in Pfizer's you know Pfizer Clyburn it's almost like is this really a coincidence that the unique demographics of South Carolina were where the civil war started and

58:36 it's also where the two parties are to some extent combining to form a media what i would call a media jim crow for the benefit of gigantic corporations yeah it is a very interesting yeah it's a very interesting um place um and of course the the ability of a lindsey graham um to be able to um uh it just illustrates your point

59:06 as far as I'm concerned, where you get Clyburn and Lindsey Graham out of the same state. It's actually quite crazy. If you look at the Clyburns of South, the Democrats who are in South Carolina, these are not like what we would traditionally think of as liberal in the sense of economic reform. Correct. These are corporate.

59:34 100% corporate Democrats. Yes, absolutely. Anybody else? We're going to jump off here early because I didn't have my normal dinner break here yet. If that's everybody, we're going to go ahead and... I see American there that has his hand up.

1:00:03 Okay. Yeah, I called on him once. If he has something else, he's more than welcome to come back up. Where did he go? He left. He's gone. Okay. All right. We're out of here. Thanks, guys. All right. So hold on just a second. Let me send Bridget a text. All right. I'm going to go through a couple of these. Silk purse.

1:00:59 Tribe of Dan, you're welcome. There was a case in France that the woman's husband over 10 years and 100 men he'd filmed. Oh my God, that's awful. Okay. Yeah, I definitely recommend going to watch those two videos that are over in the X comments. So thank you guys for being here. We will be back tomorrow. Take care.

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Norodom Sihanouk did_business_with Pol Pot host_asserted ▶ 1:58

“It is pertinent that this time our ally will be the faction headed by Noradom Shahanuk, the ruler overthrown in 1970, who has allied with the communist guerrillas of Pol Pot, formerly our enemy. In An…”

Norodom Sihanouk overthrew Cambodia host_asserted ▶ 1:58

Jonas Savimbi did_business_with South Africa host_asserted ▶ 2:26

“the close united relationship with South African intelligence and a renewed paramilitary action in Angola would be subject to the same political problems that John Stockwell described in the 1975 fias…”

Angelo Codevilla proposed Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 2:56

“Dr. Angelo Cotevilla, a Senate staff member, and Dr. Roy Godson, a political science professor at Georgetown. Their vision expressed in a 1985 paper, quote, it is neither superfluous nor beyond our me…”

Roy Godson proposed Soviet Union book_quoted ▶ 2:56

Frank Wisner headed CIA host_asserted ▶ 3:56

“While denying that this would amount to nurturing popular anti-Soviet movements, the authors make clear that such covert aid would be part of a policy including political and economic measures. There …”

CIA carried_out_attack Guatemala host_asserted ▶ 6:42

“The CIA programs most often cited as successes were Operation Ajax in Iran and Operation Success in Guatemala. Yet these victories had only a short-term effect. Action on Iran sowed the seeds for what…”

CIA carried_out_attack Iran host_asserted ▶ 6:42

CIA overthrew Jacobo Árbenz host_asserted ▶ 7:11

“In Guatemala, the overthrow of Arbenz turned the country away from democracy, the supposed aim of the covert action. Because we know it wasn't for democracy. It was to ensure cheap slave labor. Neithe…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered_assassination_of Fidel Castro host_asserted ▶ 7:39

“by forcing those nations into the arms of the Soviet Union, which in fact it did as far as different factions in that country, as JFK pointed out. A paradigm case for this sort of failure had been Cub…”

CIA carried_out_attack People's Republic of China host_asserted ▶ 8:57

“The People's Republic of China was one quote unquote denied area where operations ended up as a detriment to the United States. Ventures in the Muslim area and in Vietnam and along with Chiang Kai-she…”

CIA did_business_with Chiang Kai-shek host_asserted ▶ 8:57

Sukarno did_business_with Soviet Union host_asserted ▶ 9:55

“It's almost like they want to create the big boogeyman to scare the hell out of us. Indonesia was not a denied area, but the result there was similar. Sukarno was able to use the apparent American thr…”

CIA carried_out_attack Albania host_asserted ▶ 10:26

“the congo where the outcome was what they wanted but at the detriment of tens of thousands of people the ledger of failures included albania angola um the kurds in addition to efforts in chile um in n…”

CIA carried_out_attack Chile host_asserted ▶ 10:26

CIA funded Contras host_asserted ▶ 10:59

“the U.S. was apparent. The Contras were unable to triumph in the 1980s when the conditions favored them. There was little success in forging a united front, and it left a humanitarian disaster in its …”

CIA funded Mobutu Sese Seko host_asserted ▶ 16:11

“That was the case in Laos with the Committee for the Defense of National Interest in Albania with the Committee for a Free Albania and Angola with Holden Roberto. In Zaire, they used Joseph Mubatu. Wh…”

CIA funded Holden Roberto host_asserted ▶ 16:11

CIA funded Committee for the Defense of National Interests host_asserted ▶ 16:11

CIA funded Committee for a Free Asia host_asserted ▶ 16:11

Allen Dulles did_business_with Indonesia host_asserted ▶ 16:41

“The choice is frequently limited. In Indonesia, Alan Dulles' CIA chose to align itself with a separatist military officer group and political malcontents. More recently, in Nicaragua, the CIA had favo…”

Beng Pao Mao trafficked People's Republic of China host_asserted ▶ 17:38

“after maybe one or two patterns. The special problem of working through local proxies is suffering political liabilities as a result of acts by the local allies. The Indonesian colonels with their smu…”

Li Mi trafficked People's Republic of China host_asserted ▶ 17:38

CIA funded Afghanistan host_asserted ▶ 18:04

“Allegations of similar activities has been laid at the feet of both the Nicaraguan conflict. In Tibet, Afghanistan, and the Indonesia war, a proportion of the CIA's assistance was soaked up by its own…”

CIA funded Indonesia host_asserted ▶ 18:04

Kim Philby spied_on Soviet Union host_asserted ▶ 22:09

“These are unknown to the secret warriors laying their plans. Penetrations of the Soviet and Albanian operations by Kim Philby was an example of this. Leaks to the press are better known, but at least …”

Kim Philby spied_on Albania host_asserted ▶ 22:09

Richard Nixon did_business_with People's Republic of China host_asserted ▶ 23:35

“China was considered an enemy, but later the Nixon administration undertook rapprochement, redefining China as a counterweight to the Soviet Union. The covert actions, successful as they may have been…”

Dwight D. Eisenhower headed 5412 Committee host_asserted ▶ 24:31

“Truman was concerned with creating capabilities and undertaking operations with them. Control was mostly left to a subordinate organization, namely the 10-2 and the 10-5 panels. It was President Eisen…”

Harry S. Truman headed 10-5 Panel host_asserted ▶ 24:31

Dwight D. Eisenhower ordered_assassination_of Patrice Lumumba host_asserted ▶ 25:00

“5412 group, which is basically the same thing. They just rename it every administration. Through eight years in the White House, however, Ike proved unable to get the special group to do anything he w…”

Richard Nixon headed Committee of 40 host_asserted ▶ 25:27

“The Nixon administration left the special group mechanism in place, retitled it the 40 Committee, and with extra presidential watchdogs added. But the group was left to monitor only the less important…”

Ronald Reagan headed CIA host_asserted ▶ 25:49

“but have greatly deteriorated during Reagan, with the president himself chairing the meetings and now being completely in charge where there's no plausible deniability, which happened under Reagan. Pa…”

William Casey headed CIA host_asserted ▶ 27:42

“not the president, to issue the approval for operations. This legal conundrum would not exist if there were a detailed charter that specified permissible missions and methods. But who wants that? Beca…”

John Prados wrote President's Secret Wars host_asserted ▶ 30:55

“The end. So I think the most striking part, which, you know, actually kind of harkens back to the space that we were just doing with Ireland. It's amazing to me that you can have someone, obviously so…”

Operation Gladio operated_in Chile host_asserted ▶ 33:46

“and used as a reason to invade democratically elected countries has to. I mean, it just has to. You have to step back and go, what the hell? Why would you go into Chile? They had been a democracy for …”

Freeport-McMoRan did_business_with Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 34:45

“five seconds to figure out that it's the same companies. It's Standard Oil. It's PepsiCo. It's Freeport Mining. It's ITT. And they're in every story. So I just find it hilarious. Bridget, go ahead. An…”

PepsiCo did_business_with Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 34:45

Standard Oil did_business_with Operation Gladio host_asserted ▶ 34:45

Congressional Intelligence Committees covered_up Operation Gladio guest_asserted ▶ 37:27

“And in my opinion, it's not that they didn't want to know. I look at the Intelligence Committee in Congress, in both houses, the Senate and the House, as being totally compromised. They were compromis…”

Operation Gladio operated_in United States host_asserted ▶ 39:55

“of operation gladio back in the late 1800s and so as we have found things um like i did not realize that the um you know one of the kind of close but not exactly operation gladio is the prison system …”

Operation Gladio funded War on Drugs host_asserted ▶ 40:26

“What they did in order to launch a quote unquote war on drugs was they arrested all of the low level criminals, which happened to be primarily black because they were specifically targeting black neig…”

James Clyburn did_business_with Pfizer guest_asserted ▶ 57:10

“Nominally, it would seem like it's a racial thing, but with Representative Clyburn and his extreme corporate, as in Pfizer, connections, it was used in a way that would make the Democrats more giganti…”